View Full Version : Who's to Blame For 'Taxi's' Lack Of A Final Episode? NBC? ABC? The Writers??


Brian Damage
06-20-2012, 11:11 PM
I am not quite sure myself, but was Taxi blindsided by the cancellation? Sure once, shame on you, but twice??? Shame on me! Who's to blame in your opinion?

http://s.excessif.com/mmdia/i/89/1/tony-danza-taxi-une-sitcom-abc-nbc-avec-christopher-lloyd-danny-10355891gmqxe.jpg?v=1

catlover79
06-21-2012, 02:25 AM
I'll go out on a limb and say all three.

TVFactFan
06-21-2012, 02:42 AM
I am not quite sure myself, but was Taxi blindsided by the cancellation? Sure once, shame on you, but twice??? Shame on me! Who's to blame in your opinion?

http://s.excessif.com/mmdia/i/89/1/tony-danza-taxi-une-sitcom-abc-nbc-avec-christopher-lloyd-danny-10355891gmqxe.jpg?v=1


Didn't the show switch networks? I'm thinking maybe the show was doing so bad that it was no need for a finale

catlover79
06-21-2012, 02:46 AM
Yeah, Taxi ran on ABC from 1978-1982, at which point it got cancelled. NBC picked up the show for the 1982-83 season, and it didn't fare any better in the ratings. So I blame both networks for denying the stellar cast and crew of Taxi the chance to do a REAL series finale, and for the writers/producers for not having such an episode written that they could've shot and aired later (at least, not that I know of).

ajgenard
06-21-2012, 05:51 AM
It's quite possible that much of Taxi's original production staff had already left by the time NBC picked it up. During that final season the Charles brothers had already moved on to Cheers and I'd be willing to bet that many other crew members had gone to other shows as well. The same thing happened during the final season of The Bob Newhart Show after CBS convinced him to do one more year. So with a mixed staff and abysmal ratings, it's a wonder they managed a complete season of Taxi let alone a finale (which I don't think was even a standard for sitcoms quite yet). At any rate it's a damn shame. This show definitely deserved some kind of closure.

Mr. Television
06-21-2012, 08:22 AM
I remember when Judd Hirsch won best actor at the Emmy Awards that year. He blasted NBC for cancelling Taxi. lol

TVFactFan
06-21-2012, 03:56 PM
But you don't normally see a sitcom with only 5 seasons have a finale. The closest one was Bob Newhart and his show had 6 seasons

TVFactFan
06-21-2012, 03:57 PM
Oh I forgot Martin in 1997 but that was a Forced finale because of the issues between the two stars

catlover79
06-22-2012, 05:06 AM
It's quite possible that much of Taxi's original production staff had already left by the time NBC picked it up. During that final season the Charles brothers had already moved on to Cheers and I'd be willing to bet that many other crew members had gone to other shows as well. The same thing happened during the final season of The Bob Newhart Show after CBS convinced him to do one more year. So with a mixed staff and abysmal ratings, it's a wonder they managed a complete season of Taxi let alone a finale (which I don't think was even a standard for sitcoms quite yet). At any rate it's a damn shame. This show definitely deserved some kind of closure.
You bring up some good points - I'd forgotten about the Charles brothers going over to Cheers at that point. Thanks!!

catlover79
06-22-2012, 05:07 AM
I remember when Judd Hirsch won best actor at the Emmy Awards that year. He blasted NBC for cancelling Taxi. lol
Good for him!! :D

Adamantium
06-22-2012, 11:12 AM
But you don't normally see a sitcom with only 5 seasons have a finale. The closest one was Bob Newhart and his show had 6 seasons

I'd say the closest one was "The Odd Couple" with five seasons. I don't know if it was promoted as the big serie finale at the time, but it's plot ended the show (Felix remarrying Gloria and moving out of Oscar's apartment finally).

Skywalker
07-09-2012, 03:35 PM
It's hard for me to blame NBC. They gave them a chance and the ratings were even worse. They had Danny DeVito promoting it saying "Same time, better network." so they didn't even change the timeslot. I blame the producers/writers, for not paying attention to declining ratings and not preparing a series finale.

Mr. Television
07-10-2012, 12:40 AM
It's hard for me to blame NBC. They gave them a chance and the ratings were even worse. They had Danny DeVito promoting it saying "Same time, better network." so they didn't even change the timeslot. I blame the producers/writers, for not paying attention to declining ratings and not preparing a series finale.
Yea I agree. Everybody knew the show was going to get cancelled with ratings that low. Didn't they have a best of...clip show as the final episode in syndication? I think it aired as a special originally.

catlover79
07-10-2012, 01:11 PM
Yea I agree. Everybody knew the show was going to get cancelled with ratings that low. Didn't they have a best of...clip show as the final episode in syndication? I think it aired as a special originally.
I think they did, but I'm not positive.

Skywalker
07-10-2012, 02:04 PM
Yea I agree. Everybody knew the show was going to get cancelled with ratings that low. Didn't they have a best of...clip show as the final episode in syndication? I think it aired as a special originally.

Yeah, they were the last episodes produced so they always aired last whenever I saw them. I know it originally aired as a one hour special in late March 1983, but they still had 7 episodes left to air. I don't think they even knew they were canceled at that point. The last episode to air was Simka's Monthlies in June.

catlover79
07-10-2012, 02:30 PM
When the focus grew more and more on Latka and Simka, I just zoned out. No offense to Carol Kane, who is one of the quirkiest and most versatile character actresses there is (not to mention a native Clevelander!), but I just didn't care much for Simka as a character.

Adamantium
07-10-2012, 03:59 PM
Yeah, they were the last episodes produced so they always aired last whenever I saw them. I know it originally aired as a one hour special in late March 1983, but they still had 7 episodes left to air. I don't think they even knew they were canceled at that point. The last episode to air was Simka's Monthlies in June.

That was the last one to air, but the last one produced, which I consider to be the series finale is "A Grand Gesture," which didn't have a series finale plot, but was still a nice send off. Each the characters had about the same amount of screen time, Louie and Jeff have a big argument, which ends on a positive note, all the cabbies do good for others, it's just an all around good episode.

Adamantium
07-10-2012, 04:01 PM
When the focus grew more and more on Latka and Simka, I just zoned out.

That seems to be what people think about the later years but I disagree. Latka only apeared in 11 episodes of that final season and was only the focus for four episodes.

Skywalker
07-10-2012, 04:33 PM
That was the last one to air, but the last one produced, which I consider to be the series finale is "A Grand Gesture," which didn't have a series finale plot, but was still a nice send off. Each the characters had about the same amount of screen time, Louie and Jeff have a big argument, which ends on a positive note, all the cabbies do good for others, it's just an all around good episode.

Yeah, you can't even really count the clip shows as episodes because they were obviously thrown together at the last minute and they didn't even bother getting the rest of the cast together to talk about it. :lol: I always skip them whenever I watch the season 5 DVDs.

That was a great episode. I especially liked how they included Jeff as he hardly ever had much dialogue and Louie wanted to do something nice which was even more rare. With the exception of a series finale, I'm not sure they could have come up with a better send off.

Skywalker
07-10-2012, 04:43 PM
That seems to be what people think about the later years but I disagree. Latka only apeared in 11 episodes of that final season and was only the focus for four episodes.

Even Simka made more appearances than Latka in the fifth season. :lol:

neutron66
07-10-2012, 09:18 PM
The people to Blame are the People who made this show the producers its like they wanted to let the whole world down by not giving us a 6th season and a series final episode to this show that would of made myself and millions of other people happy.

TMC
07-14-2021, 12:31 AM
Yeah, Taxi ran on ABC from 1978-1982, at which point it got cancelled. NBC picked up the show for the 1982-83 season, and it didn't fare any better in the ratings. So I blame both networks for denying the stellar cast and crew of Taxi the chance to do a REAL series finale, and for the writers/producers for not having such an episode written that they could've shot and aired later (at least, not that I know of).

Here's an old Washington Post article (https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/1982/05/13/taxis-last-stand/057c82d1-cda9-4171-bcec-995df5755900/) about Taxi's (http://peterandrobmakelistsofthings.blogspot.com/2008/08/top-10-things-that-i-love-about-sitcom.html) first cancellation (https://living.alot.com/entertainment/30-behind-the-scenes-secrets-from-taxi--17311) by ABC in 1982:
Just when it seems impossible to get any more outraged about the idiocies of network television, a lunacy comes along to reawaken indignation. Executives at ABC (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-05-07-ca-11365-story.html) have canceled the comedy series "Taxi," (https://interviews.televisionacademy.com/shows/taxi) one of the few programs on its schedule with a heart and a mind. The series will not be back in the fall, and James L. Brooks (https://fandomania.com/the-finale-showdown-taxi/), who created and helped produce it, is both crestfallen and furious (https://www.looper.com/328241/the-real-reason-these-80s-sitcoms-were-canceled/).

"I am trying to cut a happy distance between rage and depression," he says from his office at Paramount. Ironically, Brooks, while at MTM Enterprises, was also present at the creation of "Lou Grant," another superior series canceled by another network, CBS. "Grant" was a victim of low ratings and the distracting extramural political hijinks of its star, Ed Asner.

But the ratings for "Taxi" weren't bad; Brooks says the program averaged a 26 percent share this year, and a 26 share is considered break-even in the industry (30 is a hit, 20 a flop). In addition, Brooks says, "Taxi" won the Emmy for best comedy series every year it has been on (it just finished its fourth season).

"It's awful. It's awful," he says. "It takes the heart out of some very good people. The one thing that's clear from this is that the network is saying to everybody, 'Don't think Emmys will do you any good when it comes to scheduling.' "

Brooks was notified on May 4 of the cancellation, after what he describes as horrible meetings with such network executives as Anthony D. Thomopoulos, president of ABC Entertainment.

"There was one key meeting when I felt I was in one of the bad Rod Serling episodes," says Brooks. "Most of them were good, but once in a while they'd do one about somebody talking but nobody quite hears them. That's how I felt. Thomopoulos kept saying he was strong enough to 'take the heat' about canceling 'Taxi.' He began to equate that with executive ability in a very perverse way.

"I brought up 'quality' at one point, and one executive made the kind of gesture that says, 'How do you talk to somebody who uses words like that?' " The history of network television has shown without a peep of a doubt that the word "quality" carries less weight at ABC than it does at NBC or CBS.

Brooks is asked if he isn't worried about endangering his own television career by speaking out against such executives. He says, "I hope they endanger their own television careers with this decision. We always hear about their callousness, but this is an incompetent decision, I think, not just a callous one.

"There is nothing that ABC is doing in television that leads me to think we could have a common goal. I can't imagine myself working for this group of men again. I can't do that. Besides, what would I do? I can't do much better than 'Taxi' and they canceled it."

With the concurrent demise of "Barney Miller" on ABC, the network is left without a single surviving comedy program of any measurable intelligence; "Mork and Mindy," which was at least cute, has also been canceled. But "9 to 5," a miserably unfunny--but trendily pseudo-feminist--comedy series, has been renewed and will be moved in the fall to a virtually failure-proof time slot, after "Three's Company" on Tuesday nights.

"It's gotta get a rating in that slot," says Brooks, "and as opposed as I am to saying bad things about other shows, what you have there is an hour of women who have big breasts. It's that kind of continuity of programming that governs ABC."

We may be entering a new Cold War of network television. Faced with competition from competing technologies, especially pay and cable TV, network executives seem stymied and desperate, and reckless brinkmanship escalates. It could also be that they just don't know what they're doing.

"If we're lucky they don't know what they're doing," says Brooks. "If this is part of some grand plan, then we're really in trouble."

"Taxi" was a smart, warm, lovingly rowdy show about a group of dreamers and survivors holed up in the purgatory of a New York cab company; there they awaited and imagined Bigger Things to Come. Some people think the show was inspired by the grisly movie "Taxi Driver," but it wasn't. It is based on a two-part magazine article that originally appeared in New York magazine and caught the attention of Grant Tinker, then president of MTM and now president of NBC.

Brooks and distinguished colleagues later left MTM--where their triumphs had included "The Mary Tyler Moore Show"--for Paramount and, Tinker said in an interview, "by the time they went to Paramount our option [on the article] was over and they just used the damn thing and Jim has never paid me a nickel!" He was laughing when he said it. Brooks said Tinker once told him he didn't mind that MTM didn't get to do the show "as long as he got to watch it on television."

Brooks also says of Tinker, "Grant has the potential to be a broadcaster. That's what you call a programmer who looks past his toes."

What particularly saddens him, Brooks says, is that the cancellation of "Taxi" was announced after the season's last episode had already been filmed: "We have a need to be able to end. They denied us a last show. They took the final bow away from the actors." The reruns start tonight. Brooks says "Taxi" might continue in "three or four shows a year" for cable TV. There is the possibility that the show's spectacularly likable cast will be reunited this Saturday night on NBC, when "Taxi" regular Danny De Vito hosts "Saturday Night Live." One can hope they will tell ABC what ABC already knows; that it has no class and, apparently, no sense of decency, either.

"We had the best group of actors and writers in television right now assembled in one tight group," Brooks says. "Nobody would have been mad at ABC for renewing 'Taxi.' ABC would not lose any rating points renewing 'Taxi.' The network wouldn't lose any money renewing 'Taxi.' There's never been in broadcasting history that I know of a show that's won the Emmy each year it's been on that was canceled.

"We heard the talk about possible cancellation, but we thought it was undo-able. We just thought it was undo-able." And yet, it was done. At ABC, they're working overtime to try to make television Even Worse.

In its third season ABC moved Taxi from beneath Three's Company's protective wing to a more competitive Wednesday night slot; the ratings plummeted and Taxi finished the next two years in 53rd place. ABC canceled the show in early 1982 as part of a larger network push away from "quality" and toward the Aaron Spelling-produced popular fare of Dynasty and The Love Boat. HBO bid for the show (https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/69425/15-behind-scenes-facts-about-taxi), looking for it to become the first ongoing sitcom for the pay channel, but lost out to NBC (https://www.nytimes.com/1982/05/22/arts/taxi-dropped-by-abc-picked-up-by-nbc.html), which scheduled the series for the 1982-83 season (https://bronwynjoan.com/blog/2011/04/18/classic-snl-review-may-15-1982-danny-devito-sparks-s07e19). Ironically, this reunited the show's executive producers with their former boss Tinker (https://www.insider.com/beloved-tv-shows-that-couldnt-be-saved-2019-6#taxi-got-paired-with-another-iconic-show-on-nbc-8), who had taken over NBC. Tinker's reign at NBC was focused, not surprisingly, on "quality" programming which he hoped would attract viewers to the perennially last-place network. Taxi (https://www.newspapers.com/clip/67628207/taxi-season-five/) was partnered with a very compatible show on Thursday night--Cheers, created by Taxi veterans Charles, Burrows, and Charles. Although this line-up featured some of the great programs in television history--the comedies were sandwiched by dramas Fame and Hill St. Blues--the ratings (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/taxi-turns-40-a-wild-ride-down-memory-lane-cast-creators-1139168/) were dreadful and Taxi finished the season in 73rd place. NBC was willing to stick by Cheers for another chance, but felt Taxi had run its course and canceled it at the end of the season. Had Taxi been given another year or two, it would have been part of one of the most successful nights on television, featuring The Cosby Show (co-created by Taxi creator Weinberger), Family Ties, Hill St. Blues, L.A. Law, and eventual powerhouse Cheers.

Adamantium
07-14-2021, 07:23 AM
Ultimately, I'd say it was the network's fault. They could have let the writers and actors know they weren't picking the show up for a sixth season in time for them to make a proper finale. I don't blame NBC for cancelling the series as much as I do for them not giving the Taxi writers time to write a finale.

TVFactFan
07-14-2021, 11:14 PM
The show wasnt long running so it didnt need a final episode

DEH55
07-17-2021, 11:52 AM
I read that Danny Devito found out Taxi was canceled while he was away filming Terms of Endearment after the season had ended.