View Full Version : Season DVDs labeled as "The Final Season" without specifying the season number


James28
04-19-2012, 12:53 PM
There have been instances of DVDs of TV shows whose last season was released as "The Final Season" without specifying the season number on the cover art of the box (on the front or on the back). Here are several examples:

* The Andy Griffith Show (8)
* Gomer Pyle U.S.M.C. (5)
* The Brady Bunch (5)
* The Odd Couple (5)
* Taxi (5)
* Sabrina The Teenage Witch (7)
* Frasier (11)
* Girlfriends (8)
* Everybody Hates Chris (4)

And there have been instances of DVDs of TV shows whose last season was released as "The Final Season" and have specified the season number (such as "The Sixth and Final Season").

James28
06-25-2012, 08:50 PM
Other examples of season DVD released as "The Final Season" or "The Complete Final Season" with no specification of the season number anywhere on the front cover are:

Adam-12 (7)
Beauty and the Beast (1987 version) (3)
Beverly Hills 90210 (10)
Brotherhood (3)
Charmed (8)
CSI: Miami (10)
The Dead Zone (6)
Dennis the Menace (4)
Designing Women (7)
Fraggle Rock (5)
Friday the 13th: The Series (3)
Ghost Whisperer (5)
The Guardian (3)
HawthoRNe (3)
Laramie (4)
Mannix (8)
Medium (7)
Melrose Place (7)
Newlyweds Nick and Jessica (3)
Numb3rs (6)
Queer as Folk (3)
Saving Grace (4)
Secret Diary of a Call Girl (4)
7th Heaven (11)
Soul Food: The Series (5)
S. W. A. T. (2)
Tales From the Darkside (4)
The Tudors (4)
ThirtySomething (4)
The Virginian (as The Men From Shiloh) (9)
Walker, Texas Ranger (8)
War of the Worlds (2)

Usually, it would be CBS DVD/Paramount Home Entertainment which makes these kind of mistakes. Shout Factory has also started to make the same mistake.

James28
09-29-2012, 07:35 PM
Here are examples of front covers of DVD in which the season number is not specified:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/designingwomenseason7dvd.jpg

"Designing Women: The Final Season". Supposed to say "Designing Women: The Complete Seventh Season" like the other six seasons.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/taxiseason5dvd.jpg

"Taxi: The Final Season". "Taxi:The Fifth Season" ot "Taxi:The Fifth and Final Season".

James28
11-15-2012, 06:49 PM
I can't believe how deplorable, insensitive, and mean-spirited CBS / Paramount Home Entertainment can be sometimes with their "Final Season" DVDs of TV shows.

gilligan fanatic
11-15-2012, 07:06 PM
It lists the season number on the spine for The Odd Couple, Gomer Pyle, and the Brady Bunch. It should be better marked but at least it is on somewhere. I am looking at the final season of Andy Griffith and I can't find a season number on it anywhere

McGillicuddy
11-15-2012, 08:11 PM
I also think its unnecessary to call the sets "the official" season, or "the complete" season. Just call it (Whatever the Show Is) season 1, season 2...etc.

gilligan fanatic
11-16-2012, 02:44 PM
I also think its unnecessary to call the sets "the official" season, or "the complete" season. Just call it (Whatever the Show Is) season 1, season 2...etc.

I think having official is fine. Some shows like The Beverly Hillbillies and Bonanza have had a lot of public domain releases so having official differentiates it from the PD releases.

Buffyboy323
11-16-2012, 05:14 PM
The eleventh season DVD of Frasier was released as "The complete final season."

James28
11-16-2012, 05:59 PM
The final seasons of Frasier and Walker, Texas Ranger were released first, followed by the rest of their seasons in chromological order.

This has also happened to "Lie to Me", despite not being a CBS/Paramount show (it was produced by 20th Century Fox Television and aired on the FOX), its season three was released as "the complete final season" and not "the complete third season". And this also happened to "The Cleaner" (its second season) as well. The Cleaner aired on A&E was produced by CBS Paramount Television.

What is wrong with CBS DVD / Paramount Home Entertainment? They need to stop forgetting the final seasons' season number and acting like they do not want the fans to know which season the last season is. Why do they need to keep doing this?

Buffyboy323
11-16-2012, 06:35 PM
The final seasons of Frasier and Walker, Texas Ranger were released first, followed by the rest of their seasons in chromological order.

This has also happened to "Lie to Me", despite not being a CBS/Paramount show (it was produced by 20th Century Fox Television and aired on the FOX), its season three was released as "the complete final season" and not "the complete third season". And this also happened to "The Cleaner" (its second season) as well. The Cleaner aired on A&E was produced by CBS Paramount Television.

What is wrong with CBS DVD / Paramount Home Entertainment? They need to stop forgetting the final seasons' season number and acting like they do not want the fans to know which season the last season is. Why do they need to keep doing this?
It is annoying. I remember Frasier's final season came out before the last few seasons were released. I believe season 10 of Friends came out before the previous few seasons too.

McGillicuddy
11-17-2012, 04:46 PM
I think having official is fine. Some shows like The Beverly Hillbillies and Bonanza have had a lot of public domain releases so having official differentiates it from the PD releases.

Good point! The Lucy Show, is another example. I see now why CBS uses "official" in their discription. Many of the general public may not be aware of the difference.

James28
12-03-2012, 08:14 AM
If the word "final" were an ordinal number in linguistics, then would the word "finalth" make sense, as in "the complete finalth season"?

I don't think so.

James28
12-20-2012, 09:51 PM
Great, now Shout Factory is starting to make the same mistake on the last Seasons of Law & Order: Criminal Intent (10) and Simon & Simon (8).

James28
01-19-2013, 09:34 PM
The latest in a line of No-Final-Season-Number Tv show DVDs: Simon & Simon: Season Eight
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photos/simonandsimonseason8dvd.jpg


It's not fair. If I forget the season number on these DVDs, there would also be the potential for low sales. Whoever at the home entertainment companies who even suggests these names, or whoever does the cover arts, needs to be fired.

James28
02-14-2013, 03:47 AM
Added to the list is the sixth and last season of "Have Gun-Will Travel" - volumes one and two.

James28
03-09-2013, 10:46 PM
Again with Screwamount and their final season DVD screw-ups. The DVD boxset for the third season of Father Dowling Mysteries originally said "The Third Season", now the box art contains the dreaded "The Final Season" title.

James28
07-12-2013, 03:40 AM
CBS-Paramount/Shout Factory curse strikes again:

"Hazel - The Complete Final Season" to be released on 14 January 2014 -- It's supposed to say "Fifth Season".

James28
01-04-2014, 12:31 AM
According to TVShowsonDVD.com, shout Factory has announced "The Practice - The Final Season", the show's eighth season actually, set for release in mid-April: http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Practice-The-Final-Season/19319

Again with the season number exclusion from the set. Shout Factory can't be trusted.

bmasters9
01-04-2014, 05:02 PM
Thankfully, Perry Mason is an exception to this: the covers of the volumes of #9 (the last season) say "Final Season: Season 9, Vol. 1" and "Final Season: Season 9, Vol. 2."

James28
05-09-2014, 01:46 PM
Cover art for "Laverne & Shirley: The Eighth and Final Season" only has "The Final Season" on it. Screwamount started back leaving out season numbers from DVD sets again.

MacLeaper
05-13-2014, 12:11 PM
Just out of curiousity, why are you interested in this phenomena on the part of DVD producers? It seems like it's mainly just good marketing on the part of DVD producers. It generally seems to be true that with TV shows, many fans are quite interested in the pilot that started it all- and the series finale that ended it all. For casual fans of shows that may not be aware that the 8th. season of "Laverne & Shirley" was the final season, it may be easier for them just to have "The Final Season" on the box- and that alone probably drives some sales as people particularly might be interested in that season just to finally see what happened to the characters at the end of the show.
I honestly doubt it's anything purposeful on the part of DVD producers to spite fans of the shows that prefer to have all the season numbers on each DVD set. Though I do agree it's a simple fix to have what Paramount did for MacGyver's final season- "The Complete Final Season- 7" (It had both the words "The Complete Final Season" and the number 7 clearly visible on the front cover and side.) Or they could do "The Seventh and Final Season", etc.
Oh well- it doesn't really matter that much to me either way.
But good for you for letting your desires as a fan be known to the DVD producers- everyone's voice is important and should be heard.:) :cool:

James28
05-13-2014, 03:40 PM
The season number just shouldn't be excluded from the box (front, spine, or back) no matter what.

"it may be easier for them just to have "The Final Season" on the box- and that alone probably drives some sales as people particularly might be interested in that season just to finally see what happened to the characters at the end of the show."

Actually, it's going to be difficult because if there is no season number whatsoever on a "final season" DVD set, people won't know exactly which season number the last season is. This can get especially bad on Shout Factory's "final season" DVD releases.

I can take either "The Complete Xth and Final Season" or "Season X: The Final Season"; Just "The Final Season" and no season number on the box whatsoever is unacceptable.

MacLeaper
05-19-2014, 05:30 PM
I agree that it seems rather simple to just list both the Season number AND "The Final Season" tagline for marketing purposes on the DVD.

bmasters9
06-10-2014, 12:44 PM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Dynasty-Season-9/19899

Unconfirmed box art for the volumes of #9 of Dynasty (the last one) says that it will be simply called "The Final Season: Volume One" and "The Final Season: Volume Two."

James28
09-05-2014, 09:52 PM
Shout! Factory is committing this problem yet again with The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis. Only "The Final Season" and no "Season 4". Lucky enough, I should ask them for a reason why they keep doing this.

bmasters9
10-02-2014, 09:29 AM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/20342

The upcoming #4 (final) release of Mork and Mindy apparently will not be one of those cursed by this "final season without season number" thing. While it will not be labeled "The Fourth and Final Season," it will be labeled "The Fourth Season." At least it is not being simply called "The Final Season."

James28
11-03-2014, 12:57 AM
Apparently, this "final season without season number" problem is happening again with Season 6 of Becker.

bmasters9
11-03-2014, 07:45 PM
Another one that is an exception to the "final season without season number" problem: No. 4 (1986-87) of Scarecrow and Mrs. King. It is labeled "The Fourth and Final Season."

http://www.amazon.com/Scarecrow-Mrs-King-Season-4/dp/B009L0NC82/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1415093280&sr=8-1&keywords=Scarecrow+and+Mrs.+King+season+4

zypherix
11-03-2014, 08:26 PM
I really dont see this as a problem, unless a show is resurrected and airs a new season. The Bob Newhart Show season 6 will have the same issue when it's released in february: https://shoutfactory-productionsite.s3.amazonaws.com/system/asset/file/47da686984ccb7551b9b1e4f58288107/product_images_modal_BNS6.SP.72dpi__7Babb03422-0e4f-e411-88c5-d4ae527c3b65_7D.jpg

James28
11-03-2014, 09:37 PM
How can you not see the exclusion of the season number from the cover art as a problem? The season number just needs to be on the packaging no matter what, and I already explained many times how crass and ridiculous this problem is. I can just contact Shout Factory in the next few days and ask them why they keep doing it and ask them to please stop this. I just hate Shout Factory for this reason.

BTW has Shout even released season 5 of The Bob Newhart Show yet?

zypherix
11-04-2014, 05:48 AM
I just don't see it as a problem. It looks different but for me it's the contents of the dvds that count, the artwork doesn't really matter. Season 5 and 6 are due to be released on the same day.

bmasters9
11-04-2014, 02:47 PM
I said this in another thread, but original Five-O on No. 12 did not have this problem; that one (a 5-disc release) was called "The Twelfth and Final Season."

Nor did the No. 3 (final) release of Hardcastle and McCormick: it was called "The Complete Third and Final Season."

James28
11-05-2014, 01:45 AM
I just don't see it as a problem. It looks different but for me it's the contents of the dvds that count, the artwork doesn't really matter.

You mean, you don't even WANT to know which season number the final season is? :mad:

Has anyone else purposely avoided a "final season" DVD set just because the packaging lacks a season number?

zypherix
11-05-2014, 05:14 AM
You mean, you don't even WANT to know which season number the final season is? :mad:

Has anyone else purposely avoided a "final season" DVD set just because the packaging lacks a season number?

Like I said, it doesn't matter to me.

James28
11-05-2014, 08:44 AM
That's it, I will contact Shout Factory about this "final season" DVD issue today, and inform them that there is no excuse for completely leaving out season numbers on the DVDs. :mad:

Kasey
11-09-2014, 03:44 PM
I think you may need to get a grip on that obsessive-compulsive disorder there. There are much bigger issues in life than worrying about season numbers on DVD boxes.

James28
11-09-2014, 03:57 PM
I don't think anyone here understands this. I just know Shout will be doing this "final-season-with-no-season-number" thing with ALL of the "last season" DVDs they're releasing in the future. As I have suggested in the past, leaving out season numbers on the DVDs is just not acceptable, and there is no answer to why Shout keeps doing this. Either have the season number on the last season DVD, or don't release the DVDs at all.

tlc38tlc38
11-09-2014, 04:53 PM
You mean, you don't even WANT to know which season number the final season is? :mad:

Has anyone else purposely avoided a "final season" DVD set just because the packaging lacks a season number?
If you're buying the series on dvd, chances are you already know how many seasons the show lasted and if you don't....do some research. It's a mute issue.

James28
11-09-2014, 05:07 PM
But, why not just ask Shout (in a respectful manner, anyway) to change the cover art (on even one copy) to have the season number on the packaging/cover art/discs? Just putting a sticker which says "Season X" over "The Final Season" probably won't help.

tlc38tlc38
11-09-2014, 06:45 PM
But, why not just ask Shout (in a respectful manner, anyway) to change the cover art (on even one copy) to have the season number on the packaging/cover art/discs? Just putting a sticker which says "Season X" over "The Final Season" probably won't help.
I'm not asking Shout! to change anything they're doing. If anything I will write them a letter and thank them for bringing us quality TV show releases on DVD and Blu-ray and for them to keep up the top notch quality they have.

James28
11-09-2014, 07:49 PM
^^I'm going to e-mail Shout Factory about this anyway. For the last time, regardless of if it's technically a show's final/last season, and regardless of the quality being "top-notch", as long as the season number is included anywhere on the packaging, no matter which season, that's all I ask. The season number does NOT have to be felt out altogether. I mean it this time.

bmasters9
12-01-2014, 08:13 PM
^^I'm going to e-mail Shout Factory about this anyway. For the last time, regardless of if it's technically a show's final/last season, and regardless of the quality being "top-notch", as long as the season number is included anywhere on the packaging, no matter which season, that's all I ask. The season number does NOT have to be felt out altogether. I mean it this time.

Looks like there will be another "season number left out of last season"-type deals. On 3/10/15, No. 8 (last season) of Quincy, M.E. will be released from Shout!, and it will simply be called "Quincy, M.E.: The Final Season."

https://shoutfactory.com/tv/crime/quincy-m-e-the-final-season

James28
12-01-2014, 10:25 PM
It can't be that hard to just easily put in "THE FINAL SEASON 8" on the front box; Either that, or at the very least, have just "SEASON 8" on the spine. :(

#bigtimemessup

MacLeaper
12-03-2014, 01:12 PM
No, it isn't that hard. I agree that it would be a simple fix. (As I've said before though, it really doesn't matter to me.)
For the record though, Shout! Factory doesn't do this will all their DVD releases- their final DVD release of the Pee Wee's Playhouse series will be labelled Seasons 3, 4 and 5.:)
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Pee-wees-Playhouse-Seasons-3-4-and-5/20529
At least the DVDs are getting released- that's all I really care about in this matter.:)

The Obsolete Man
12-12-2014, 05:06 PM
No, it isn't that hard. I agree that it would be a simple fix. (As I've said before though, it really doesn't matter to me.)
For the record though, Shout! Factory doesn't do this will all their DVD releases- their final DVD release of the Pee Wee's Playhouse series will be labelled Seasons 3, 4 and 5.:)
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Pee-wees-Playhouse-Seasons-3-4-and-5/20529
At least the DVDs are getting released- that's all I really care about in this matter.:)

After reading this thread, part of me wishes they had called the set "Complete Seasons 3, 4 and Final" :lol:

As long as the episodes are there and complete, I don't care if it's called (for example) The Bob Newhart Show Season 6, The Final Season, Season VI, or Ralph.

tlc38tlc38
12-12-2014, 05:22 PM
After reading this thread, part of me wishes they had called the set "Complete Seasons 3, 4 and Final" :lol:

As long as the episodes are there and complete, I don't care if it's called (for example) The Bob Newhart Show Season 6, The Final Season, Season VI, or Ralph.
I think the final season of "The Bob Newhart Show" should've been called LaToya instead of Ralph. :happyface :lol: :crazy: ;) :cool:

The Obsolete Man
12-12-2014, 05:43 PM
I think the final season of "The Bob Newhart Show" should've been called LaToya instead of Ralph. :happyface :lol: :crazy: ;) :cool:

If Green Acres ever gets unstalled, Season 6 should be "Ralph".

Season 5, of course, would be "Alf".

tlc38tlc38
12-12-2014, 05:47 PM
If Green Acres ever gets unstalled, Season 6 should be "Ralph".

Season 5, of course, would be "Alf".
If "Green Acres" was released, I wouldn't care what they called it. They could just put it in a brown bag and I'll still buy it. "GA" is one of my most-wanted series that I want completed on DVD!

But still, I get your joke...pretty funny.:happyface

The Obsolete Man
12-12-2014, 05:53 PM
If "Green Acres" was released, I wouldn't care what they called it. They could just put it in a brown bag and I'll still buy it. "GA" is one of my most-wanted series that I want completed on DVD!

But still, I get your joke...pretty funny.:happyface

I know.

Fox is licensing shows to Shout, Olive Films, and TGG, and Green Acres STILL isn't finished.

MacLeaper
12-12-2014, 05:55 PM
If it's a Green Acres related joke, it's gone over my head, I guess (haven't watched enough of the show to get it.) If it's an ALF-related joke, I definitely get that.
I trust it's meant in light-hearted fun, but let's be careful not to appear to be mocking other forum members' interests, no matter what we might think of it personally. (And I don't say that to condemn anyone or exclude myself, as I must be careful how my words come across too.) Everybody has a right to express their feelings and we can certainly disagree. But we have to remember to disagree agreeably.:) :cool:

tlc38tlc38
12-12-2014, 06:22 PM
Alf and Ralph are brother and sister carpenters on "Green Acres".

MacLeaper
12-18-2014, 11:32 AM
Ah, okay- that's funny.:lol:

bmasters9
12-24-2014, 10:32 AM
Something I'm hoping for if and when the last season (1983-84) of Hart to Hart is released: that it is not called simply "The Final Season." I would like for it to be called "The Complete Fifth and Final Season," "The Complete Fifth Season," or similar.

James28
03-02-2015, 09:22 PM
Some of Shout Factory's "Final Season" DVDs may not have a season number at all. (Which I have always thought is Bulls**t.)

Some "Final Season" DVDs may read "final season" on the front cover, spine, and possibly the back and inside, but not the discs themselves.

Some "Final Season" DVDs may read "final season" only on the front cover, but anywhere else has the season number. (That way, a viewer's enjoyment of the shows presented on the DVDs wouldn't be spoiled as badly.)

If Shout Factory releases a "complete series" DVD, will the box of the last season within that set still say "final season"?

bmasters9
03-03-2015, 06:11 AM
https://www.shoutfactory.com/tv/tv-action-adventure/hart-to-hart-the-final-season

On 6/9, the fifth and final season's worth (1983-84) of Hart to Hart will be released, but, as with many of Shout!'s final-season releases, it will simply be called "The Final Season." That aside, I am still glad that it will be released.

James28
03-03-2015, 08:57 AM
On 6/9, the fifth and final season's worth (1983-84) of Hart to Hart will be released, but, as with many of Shout!'s final-season releases, it will simply be called "The Final Season." That aside, I am still glad that it will be released.

Shout Factory can just practically change their name to "Sucks Factory" now. What, they're gonna make it standing policy and act like its against the law to put the season numbers on TV show's "final season" DVDs? Fox Home Entertainment excludes the season number on the DVDs of Sons of Anarchy S7 and Glee S6.

Look at the upcoming DVD release of the sixth and last season of Mister Ed: The front cover has "The Final Season", but the spine still says "The Complete Sixth Season".
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Mister-Ed-Season-6/20713

bmasters9
03-03-2015, 11:15 AM
Shout Factory can just practically change their name to "Sucks Factory" now. What, they're gonna make it standing policy and act like its against the law to put the season numbers on TV show's "final season" DVDs? Fox Home Entertainment excludes the season number on the DVDs of Sons of Anarchy S7 and Glee S6.

Look at the upcoming DVD release of the sixth and last season of Mister Ed: The front cover has "The Final Season", but the spine still says "The Complete Sixth Season".
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Mister-Ed-Season-6/20713

On further examination, it is not all hopeless for that fifth-season Hart release; just like the 6th Ed release, the Hart release will have "The Complete Fifth Season" on the spine.

James28
03-23-2015, 10:11 PM
Unfortunately, Fox Home Entertainment pulled a Paramount/Shout Factory with the recently-concluded sixth and final season of Glee, calling that simply The Final Season. No season number anywhere on that, either, not even on the spine or back.

http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Glee-Season-6-and-Complete-Series/20891

James28
04-15-2015, 09:47 PM
One unique case of a "Final Season" DVD: Breaking Bad, Season 5.

Season 5 of Breaking Bad was split in two halves, each consisting of eight episodes. The first half of S5 was released as "The Fifth Season", and the second half of S5 was released as "The Final Season".

bmasters9
05-09-2015, 01:15 PM
Just purchased the 8th and last release (1967-68) of The Andy Griffith Show for my mother, and while it is called officially "The Complete Final Season," on the back in the blurb, the season number is mentioned.

James28
06-29-2015, 07:45 PM
CBS Home Entertainment continues their ridiculous habit of "No-Final-Season-Number" TV show DVD releases with CSI: Crime Scene Investigation Season 15 (which finished last February). It's set for a September 15th street date, so this is before the two-hour finale movie airs on the 27th.

http://tvshowsondvd.com/n/21258

At least the season number wasn't left out of the Two and a Half Men Season 12 DVD.

bmasters9
07-01-2015, 07:11 AM
At least the season number wasn't left out of the Two and a Half Men Season 12 DVD.

It was the same way with the final-season Hart to Hart, Quincy, M.E., and Andy Griffith releases.

Michael cole
09-22-2015, 08:30 AM
Who cares about it? On the back where it gives a synopsis of the season, it should tell you what season it is in the synopsis. There you go, problem solved

James28
09-22-2015, 06:35 PM
I checked the spine on the The Andy Griffith Show Season 8 DVD, and it only said "Final Season" on an oval shape below "The Complete Final Season" rather than "Season 8". The words "Final Season" on that oval shape is redundant. A similar thing happened with the Taxi Season 5 DVD, with a redundant mention of "The Final Season" on the top of the spine rather than "Season 5".

An example of a "Final Season" DVD where the season number isn't mentioned period: Tales from the Darkside Season 4. No mention of the word "four" or "fourth" on the packaging, not even on the back. That is sad.

This season-number-omission issue would usually depend on the company releasing the "Final Season" DVDs. Warner Bros. Home Video almost never omits the season numbers from the packaging. They came pretty close with the original Dallas TV series, referring to it as "The Complete Final Season", but still put the number "14" on the front and spine of the packaging.

James28
09-22-2015, 06:59 PM
Who cares about it? On the back where it gives a synopsis of the season, it should tell you what season it is in the synopsis. There you go, problem solved

Somebody who is a fan of a certain TV show, but may not like the omission of the season number from the DVD set's packaging, and may want to avoid buying the DVD set because of this. So that fan will have everyone of the seasons of that TV show except the last one. Sometimes, the fan may want to wait for a "Complete Series" set to be released, and is willing to shell out whatever money he or she can to buy such a DVD set (the "Complete Series" set). Truth is, if a certain company insists on omitting the season number on the DVD set of a TV show's final season, I would prefer it if the season numbers were placed on just the spines of the DVD sets of ALL of that TV show's seasons, including the final season, no matter what. Now I know why DVD sales are starting to lose ground to digital streaming platforms such as Netflix or Hulu.

But User: Michael cole, I don't think you should go around asking somebody "who cares" about a certain thing, because that would be considered "getting personal" with that somebody.

Michael cole
09-22-2015, 07:03 PM
Alrighty. Thanks for letting me know

bmasters9
10-10-2015, 03:12 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/thirtysomething-The-Complete-Final-Season-DVD-201-/381423013376?hash=item58ce954e00

Was just looking at this EBay listing for the final release of thirtysomething, and it seems to have a mention of this season being the fourth and final one, despite having the label "the complete final season" on the bottom. I don't know if that fourth-season mention is actually on the box, or if it was part of the wrapping.

Wiseguy2
11-29-2015, 03:12 AM
I think you may need to get a grip on that obsessive-compulsive disorder there. There are much bigger issues in life than worrying about season numbers on DVD boxes.

I agree. The word "anal" comes to mind. Fans of a series will usually know how many seasons a series has and others interested in a series can look up on the internet to see how many seasons a series has. Both groups will know what's the last season before they even buy it.

By the way, Paramount's Mannix series has a number of bullets on the front cover and spine of each season. The number of bullets corresponds to the season number. The final season has eight bullets on the cover and spine.

Wiseguy2
11-29-2015, 03:19 AM
It was the same way with the final-season Hart to Hart, Quincy, M.E., and Andy Griffith releases.

There's a more serious problem with Quincy, M.E.: The season numbers are incorrect. The first season was released as Seasons 1 & 2 (all episodes in this collection were originally broadcast in one season, 1976-77). Each additional season therefore had the wrong season and will wind up with 8 seasons on DVD while there were only seven seasons.

bmasters9
12-08-2015, 05:17 AM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Nanny-Season-6/21801

Final individual release of The Nanny (sixth season, 1998-99) to come out 3/15/16; front of box says "The Final Season," side of box says "Season Six"

Joseph13
12-08-2015, 04:12 PM
I really don't mind weather the dvdsets say the number or says it's the final season. I have many sets on dvd. I'm just happy when and if the company's release all the seasons . Some don't even make it that far.

James28
12-17-2015, 09:25 AM
I have to admit, I have been really hard on Shout Factory regarding this "Final Season DVD" situation. This is because, in the renders of the DVDs' package art, it looked like the DVD packaging contained no season number at all, while on more recent "Final Season" DVD releases, the "Final Season" disclaimer/indicator is only on the front cover (and sometimes the back), which the spine and discs have the season number on them anyway.

If I had a choice, I would take Shout! Factory over Paramount's Home Entertainment Division.

spunkygirl
12-17-2015, 12:57 PM
What does it matter? You're hung up on something this trivial really? WOW.

Any true fan of a show knows how many season it has

bmasters9
12-17-2015, 05:22 PM
I have to admit, I have been really hard on Shout Factory regarding this "Final Season DVD" situation. This is because, in the renders of the DVDs' package art, it looked like the DVD packaging contained no season number at all, while on more recent "Final Season" DVD releases, the "Final Season" disclaimer/indicator is only on the front cover (and sometimes the back), which the spine and discs have the season number on them anyway.

If I had a choice, I would take Shout! Factory over Paramount's Home Entertainment Division.

So would I! At least Shout! has numbered which season was the final one of a lot of the series they've released, even if that final season number is seemingly wrong (as one poster brought up with Quincy, M.E.).

Here's the back of the final-season (fifth one, 1983-84) release of Hart to Hart.

Ron Ron
12-17-2015, 05:34 PM
So would I! At least Shout! has numbered which season was the final one of a lot of the series they've released, even if that final season number is seemingly wrong (as one poster brought up with Quincy, M.E.).

Here's the back of the final-season (fifth one, 1983-84) release of Hart to Hart.


The Hart to Hart releases from Shout were awesome! The picture quality is just outstanding. I would even say it has that blu ray feel. I think it was their best release by far in picture quality.

James28
12-17-2015, 08:44 PM
About the question of a fan of a TV show knowing how many seasons it has, what about someone buying only a TV show's final season without buying the DVDs of any of that show's other seasons?

Svenfan1234
02-03-2016, 06:56 PM
I want to also know, seriously who cares? It makes no sense to be obsessing over something like this. I just don't really see the plausibility in it

James28
02-03-2016, 08:18 PM
I want to also know, seriously who cares? It makes no sense to be obsessing over something like this. I just don't really see the plausibility in it

:livid: Every time I start a topic, I always have other users sniping and bashing at me and think I am "obsessing" over that particular topic, or often have to be asked why it "matters", and I often have to get personal with them, because I'm not going to like these kind of replies. I apologize for ruining this thread with this "obsession" you think I have, but I just hate when other users refer to it as an "obsession". :angryfire If you want to know, I'm only "obsessing" over it because Paramount's home media distribution subsidiary is unlikely to stop leaving out final-season numbers on even the spines of those DVD box-sets. And apparently, Entertainment One is pulling a Paramount with Season 6 of Rookie Blue: http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Rookie-Blue-The-Final-Season/21905

I am someone who thinks home video (DVD and Blu-Ray) is the end-all-and be-all for TV shows. If Paramount's "Final Season" DVDs are going to have the season number be omitted from the DVD sets at all, then why don't they just put those final seasons on a digital-streaming website such as Netflix or Hulu?

Crusinforabrusin
02-03-2016, 11:17 PM
Doesn't really bother me at all. If they don't put final season on the DVD, I don't really care. As long as I have my dvds I'll be happy

James28
02-04-2016, 04:36 AM
^^I have received this reply about 15 times in this thread, and it shows that I always have to be in the minority on everything.

Wiseguy2
02-04-2016, 08:38 AM
About the question of a fan of a TV show knowing how many seasons it has, what about someone buying only a TV show's final season without buying the DVDs of any of that show's other seasons?

But who would do that? A fan of the show would know at least approximately how many seasons there are. A fan would probably already have purchased earlier seasons and know where the final season fits into the collection. If it's just a random purchase, say someone who finds a season in the $5 bin at Big Lots or Walmart, then it doesn't matter what season it is and what season is written on the package. Perhaps the only time I can see where this is an issue is if someone requests the final season as a gift and asks for the "sixth" season not realizing the packaging doesn't mention "sixth" and the person buying the DVD doesn't realize it's the final season and looks for the "sixth" and can't find it. But how often is that going to happen where the person who wants the DVD has never seen the packaging or an ad on the internet?

bmasters9
02-04-2016, 09:18 AM
But who would do that? A fan of the show would know at least approximately how many seasons there are. A fan would probably already have purchased earlier seasons and know where the final season fits into the collection. If it's just a random purchase, say someone who finds a season in the $5 bin at Big Lots or Walmart, then it doesn't matter what season it is and what season is written on the package. Perhaps the only time I can see where this is an issue is if someone requests the final season as a gift and asks for the "sixth" season not realizing the packaging doesn't mention "sixth" and the person buying the DVD doesn't realize it's the final season and looks for the "sixth" and can't find it. But how often is that going to happen where the person who wants the DVD has never seen the packaging or an ad on the internet?

I take it, by what you're saying, that this is only a problem when the person who is wanting the final release (whatever season number that final release is) asks for the release by its final season number, only to find out that the final season is simply called "the final season" and not referred to by its final season number. Is that what you're saying?

Wiseguy2
02-04-2016, 10:07 AM
I take it, by what you're saying, that this is only a problem when the person who is wanting the final release (whatever season number that final release is) asks for the release by its final season number, only to find out that the final season is simply called "the final season" and not referred to by its final season number. Is that what you're saying?

I don't think it's a problem at all. I was responding to James28's post. I think I made myself quite clear. The only case where this could be a problem is when a person other than the person who wants the DVD tries to buy the season by its season number and not the "final season" (the person who wants the DVD probably knowing in all likelihood what season the final season is and that it is marked "final" and would tell the purchaser that fact or that it is the final season). Again, how often would that happen?

bmasters9
02-11-2016, 05:17 AM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Haven-The-Final-Season/21983

Here's another one with no season number on the final season: the final release of Haven.

James28
09-19-2016, 10:28 PM
Two more "The Final Season" DVD releases from CBS/Paramount Home Entertainment have been announced today:

House of Lies - Season 5
Beauty and the Beast (2012) - Season 4

http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/graphics/news3/BeautyAndTheBeast2012_S4.jpg

This is very similar to when the third season of the original 1987 version of Beauty and the Beast was released on DVD. Only the words "FINAL SEASON" at the top of the spine of the packaging when those same words are already on the spine below the series's title? That isn't funny, that's just repeating the same mistake.:angryfire

I keep telling you that Paramount Home Media Distribution is NEVER going to stop omitting the season number on the last seasons of their TV shows. :livid: CBS/Paramount sucks!

Svenfan1234
09-19-2016, 10:45 PM
You need to chill out about this

James28
09-19-2016, 11:23 PM
^^NO. I am not going to "chill out" about anything. In fact, if I was the creator or producer of a TV show, I would not have it be produced by CBS Television Studios, the new Paramount Television, or any production company owned by CBS Corporation and Viacom, because of the possibility of this final-season-number-omission happening with any such TV show. And because both CBS Corporation and Viacom are owned by the same company, National Amusements, I just want to say that National Amusements sucks for making these final-season-number omissions possible.

Wiseguy2
09-20-2016, 02:50 AM
I keep telling you that Paramount Home Media Distribution is NEVER going to stop omitting the season number on the last seasons of their TV shows. :livid: CBS/Paramount sucks!

Not true. As previously mentioned Mannix, a CBS/Paramount release, put the season number as a number of bullets on the cover. Although the final season says "The Final Season" there are 8 bullets on the cover. Does it take a rocket scientist to figure it out?

Also Perry Mason, another CBS/Paramount release, clearly states "The Ninth and Final Season" on the cover.

Hawaii Five-0, still another CBS/Paramount release, boldly proclaims "The Twelfth and Final Season."

Mission: Impossible, yep, another CBS/Paramount release, states "The Final TV Season" next to a big number 7.

The Wild, Wild, West simply states "The Fourth Season" and mentions that it is the final season in the blurb on the back cover.

If you want to argue about something try any of these topics:

1) Substituting cut/syndicated versions for uncut versions on DVDs.
2) Editing or cutting scenes due to music rights.
3) Substituting new company logos for the original broadcast versions.
4) Mis-numbering seasons (as on Universal's Quincy, M.E. releases: There are only SEVEN sesaons.)
5) Cutting/editing Alfred Hitchcock's opening and closing narration and the mid-episode ID (the drawing of Hitchcock) on Universal's Alfred Hitchcock Presents.
6) The deletion of the original Ellery Queen theme on the series pilot and replacing it with the NBC Mystery Movie theme on Universal's release. They also used the syndicated version with a new title not seen on the original broadcast.
7) Putting episodes in the original aired order when production order makes more sense. The pilot of Star Trek is shown as the third episode. Both Mission: Impossible's and The Wild Wild West's final seasons had one of the agents called back to Washington and replaced by other agents. But the aired order has the agents going back and forth between the series setting and Washington which makes no sense.
8) Counting two-hour broadcasts as one episode. An hour-long series has hour-long episodes. A two-hour broadcast consists of two episodes. Why is this important? Because the episode count is wrong if it is only counted as one episode. (CBS gets this wrong with Hawaii Five-0 but Universal got it right on Season 2 of Ironside.)
9) Referring to the series as Hawaii Five-O. It is Five-0, with a zero. Always was, always will be. If you don't think there's a difference try calling a phone number and substitute a O for a 0.
10) Bad writing/research: Hawaii Five-0's first season cover states: All 24...episodes plus the original TV pilot. It should have been "All 23 episodes plus the pilot" or less correct but still acceptable "All 24 episodes including the pilot." On the first season of Ironside the cover repeatedly states that the pilot was aired in March 1966. Raymond Burr was still doing Perry mason at that point. It aired in March 1967. Why would the series debut in September 1967, 18 months after March 1966?
11) Wrong versions of opening themes: there is a Flintstones episode in the third season with a Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm opening when the character of Bamm-Bamm wasn't introduced until the fourth season and the opening wasn't shown until the fifth. There is an episode of Hawaii Five-0's 11th season which shows Chin Ho in the credits. Chin Ho died at the end of the 10th season. An episode of the 7th season of Mannix has the different 8th season opening. The credit "James MacArthur as Danny" is shown in the first four seasons of Hawaii Five-0 on DVD while the credit was changed to "James MacArthur as Dan Williams" in the second season of the actual series. Closing credits are not immune either: An episode of Perry Mason's 8th season has the closing credits from a different episode.

And if you don't think any of these are important, now you know what people think of The Final Season without stating what season.

Svenfan1234
09-20-2016, 07:37 PM
^^NO. I am not going to "chill out" about anything. In fact, if I was the creator or producer of a TV show, I would not have it be produced by CBS Television Studios, the new Paramount Television, or any production company owned by CBS Corporation and Viacom, because of the possibility of this final-season-number-omission happening with any such TV show. And because both CBS Corporation and Viacom are owned by the same company, National Amusements, I just want to say that National Amusements sucks for making these final-season-number omissions possible.

Its a minor issue. You should ask for this thread to be locked because it isn't necessary.

James28
09-20-2016, 11:38 PM
Its a minor issue. You should ask for this thread to be locked because it isn't necessary.

I was talking about future "final season" DVD releases from Paramount. Since CBS/Paramount is unlikely to cease their "practice" of final-season-number omissions (which they are doing on Blu-Rays, too, apparently, see Dexter S8), while a few other home-entertainment companies like Warner Bros. do not, I think this is far from minor.

I'm not going to argue/fight with you (Svenfan1234) over this anymore; it'll be best if you just stayed off this thread if you're going to upset me and make things worse.

Let's get some input from other users, please.

Count Duckula
10-05-2016, 01:03 AM
They should just put the season number right where it goes on the spine, and on the front of the set. If it's the 8th and final season, then put "the final season" somewhere else on the spine and cover, but leave the season number 8 there, too.

bmasters9
10-11-2016, 09:49 AM
http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/NYPD-Blue-The-Final-Series/22721

Box art for the final-season (12th) release of NYPD Blue says that it will simply be called "The Final Season" and no more, at least going by the front art that is shown.

Svenfan1234
10-11-2016, 03:25 PM
^I noticed that. Don't really care. If you don't buy it, why worry?

James28
10-14-2016, 07:04 AM
With the final season DVD releases of ''Haven'' (season 5 part 2, which was also released on Blu-Ray), ''Bitten'' (season 3), and ''Rookie Blue'' (season 6, initially season 5 volume 2) omitting the season number completely (though I can't tell because I haven't looked at the spines of those sets), I think Entertainment One is becoming another Paramount.

It doesn't matter whether I could afford any season DVDs of TV shows, I'm just sick and tired of companies like Paramount omitting season number. If I had been able to afford them, I would still refuse to buy the DVDs with the season number omitted completely. Nothing is going to persuade me to change my mind. These season-number omissions from these DVD sets will spoil my enjoyment of the TV shows themselves.

Wiseguy2
10-14-2016, 12:37 PM
I was talking about future "final season" DVD releases from Paramount. please.

Of course, you are only talking about future releases. I've already given you a list of Paramount titles which do feature the season number on the final set.
Here's the list again with even more:

Mannix
The Wild Wild West*
Mission: Impossible
Mission: Impossible (1988-90)*
Hawaii Five-0
The Fugitive
Perry Mason
Star Trek*
Star Trek The Next Generation*
Star Trek Deep Space Nine*
Star Trek Voyager*
Hogan's Heroes
I Love Lucy*
The Lucy Show
Here's Lucy*

*These don't even mention "Final Season" on the front cover.
And these are only the ones I know about.

Stop picking on Paramount. And stop whining. (Yeah, I know you won't, too)

James28
07-13-2018, 05:27 PM
Fox orders an eight-episode seventh and final season of New Girl despite terrible ratings during its sixth season, and then Fox Home Entertainment this month releases the DVD of that seventh and final season... only to leave the season number off the packaging completely. I din't expect Fox to pull a Paramount on New Girl's seventh season, just like they did with Glee a couple of years ago. Stuff like this is why Fox is merging with Disney soon.

Impressions
07-14-2018, 06:49 PM
I honestly don't see anything productive about this topic and it should be closed. To be honest with you, how this topic has sustained itself and hasn't been locked for multiple years absolutely dumbfounds me! It really is just straight up ridiculous.

What is complaining and announcing about each and every time you see a "The Final Season" appearing on DVD set going to actually do? Are you contacting these companies at all about your complaints?

Don't get me wrong, I totally understand why they're doing it. While ideally, it would be great if they put the season number on it, I believe studios think gives it marketing appeal when it says "final season," like someone previously said in this topic. If someone truly cares about the show (like a diehard fan), they're going to find out what the final season number it was or match the DVD sets up or identify what season it might be from the episode names listed on the set. It could be confusing for someone who is new to the show, but do you honestly expect someone who is new to the show to buy a final season, unless they have a special interest in that season specifically? Wouldn't they start with the final season and go chronologically from there?

About your argument that the labeling is going to influence people's buying choices? Sure, it might but you have to remember people also are going to pick and choose what seasons they want to buy, it's their prerogative, but I highly doubt it's going to be because of how it's labeled. If they choose not to buy the final season, it could because of that season itself. Some final seasons were bad in some people's opinions, and that could be it, but because it doesn't have the season number on it, they're not gonna buy? Please. A diehard fan is gonna pick up all sets, regardless.

I don't think most people think like you. It just doesn't seem logical or human nature that they would protest a show's labeling just because it doesn't say the final season's season number. Any diehard fan is not gonna protest a final season and not buy it because of how it's labeled, unless they're absolutely obsessive compulsive about it. Yeah, I said obsessive, because it really is. You're in denial if you don't call it obsessive when you're constantly worried about the labeling on the package.

Really, I understand where you're coming from and you don't need to persuade me about why you feel my points are totally invalid, but feel free to if you want, I have an open mind but I just find this whole topic to be all around super silly!

James28
07-15-2018, 02:05 PM
^^Paramount is never going to stop leaving out the season numbers on those DVDs. "Silly" is not the right word for it. This is complete bull.

You see, Scorpion was recently cancelled by the CBS network after four seasons, and that show's DVD releases are usually formatted as "Season X" rather than "The Xth Season" like many other CBS/Paramount-distrubuted shows. This applied to its seasons 1, 2, and 3, and I thought this was going to apply to season 4 as well, but no. I check the TVShowsOnDVD Facebook page, and saw that the 4th season of Scorpion is going to be labeled as "Scorpion: The Final Season" instead of "Scorpion: Season Four". I never checked the spine of that set, and the photo of the front of the set is all I got at this moment. But it just goes to show you that CBS/Paramount Home Media Distribution is never going to stop this practice (if we're even going to call this a practice), ever. And we better hope that those final seasons that had their season-numbers excluded from the sets are available on video-on-demand platforms like Netflix of Hulu.

I may get into a particular TV show and like the characters within that show, and even if I was a diehard fan of such a show, I would still be devastated at the lack of the season number on even just the spine. Marketing purposes aside, the complete lack of a season number on a TV show's packaging is just inexcusable, period.

You say this thread should be deleted? What about the other users on this forum that may want to give their input on this topic? I wish you wouldn't even suggest that.

And what if I contact the home entertainment companies about this and not get a response from them at all?

Stuff like this is why I really have to be careful about what company produces a TV show when it comes to getting into TV shows, scripted or otherwise.

bmasters9
07-17-2018, 03:13 PM
Of course, you are only talking about future releases. I've already given you a list of Paramount titles which do feature the season number on the final set.
Here's the list again with even more:

Mannix
The Wild Wild West*
Mission: Impossible
Mission: Impossible (1988-90)*
Hawaii Five-0
The Fugitive
Perry Mason
Star Trek*
Star Trek The Next Generation*
Star Trek Deep Space Nine*
Star Trek Voyager*
Hogan's Heroes
I Love Lucy*
The Lucy Show
Here's Lucy*

*These don't even mention "Final Season" on the front cover.
And these are only the ones I know about.

Stop picking on Paramount. And stop whining. (Yeah, I know you won't, too)

What about The Streets of San Francisco?

James28
01-11-2021, 11:56 PM
Man, not even Gunsmoke is immune to this.:(

Gunsmoke's 20th season was released on DVD on May 5, 2020, and this boxset does not contain the word "Twentieth" anywhere.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81YMe4SHOzL._SL1500_.jpg
Paramount are blunt-a$$ motherf***ers.:mad::p

JamesG
01-12-2021, 04:04 PM
What is the huge issue that the DVD companies don't put the season number on its final season releases? Are people losing their heads over this?

Just be glad that it got released on home media, as there are many shows out there that remain unreleased, and call it a day.

bmasters9
01-17-2021, 04:51 PM
3) Substituting new company logos for the original broadcast versions.


Something that CBS, in and of themselves, was guilty of when it came to shows like Happy Days, Laverne & Shirley, Mork & Mindy, et al., especially on Happy Days (what I mean is that while the first go of it had the Paramount Television Split Box logo of the time, others [as far as have been released] had the newer Paramount logo or a CBS logo).

The good news: VEI of Canada has been more committed on that front, with shorter-run series like Longstreet, The Magician, Petrocelli and The Powers of Matthew Star, among others.

James28
02-08-2021, 11:06 PM
Four more examples of this:

Criminal Minds (season 15)
Elementary (season 7)
Madam Secretary (season 6)
Hawaii Five-0 (season 10)

There's a bar at the top of the boxsets' spines which is usually supposed to have the season number. But in the case of the latter three releases listed above, the dreaded words "THE FINAL SEASON" are on that bar instead, which is redundant because those words are already displayed on the spine as it is. We'll never know the exact reason why Paramount does this "practice".

I hope Paramount's Home Media Distribution division dies and drowns in a sea of hellfire. I don't know what else to say about this at this point. If the ViacomCBS re-merger means the season numbers are going to be omitted completely on ALL of their future final-season DVD releases, then I don't need to be pitching my TV shows to any Viacom-CBS subsidiary at all, ever. ViacomCBS should just sell the distribution rights to the entire CBS/Paramount library to Shout Factory or VEI.

James28
02-09-2021, 09:56 AM
:angryfireI am sick and tired of everyone in this board thinking I "obsess" over everything, and I am sick and tired of you butting in to my conversations. The reason I "obsess" over this is because Paramount's home entertainment division has been doing this final-season-number omission practice for years, and judging by how the did the sines for the last three releases I mentioned, are unlikely to stop this practice anytime soon, or ever. Any available attempts to contact Paramount/ViacomCBS about this "practice" will just be met with generic replies, and nothing else will be done to correct this problem. Frankly, when other users are ask me this in the future, they would be just forcing me to repeat the exact same things over and over and over.

Wiseguy2, if you're going to keep targeting me with posts that end with the words "Stop whining" and threatening me with mental health pills and psychiatrists, then you might as well just leave me the **** alone and stay off this thread and any conversation I'm involved in. If you ever continue to target me with either such response again, you'll learn the meaning of what is a suspendable offense. I mean it.:angryfire

JamesG
02-09-2021, 03:57 PM
:angryfireI am sick and tired of everyone in this board thinking I "obsess" over everything, and I am sick and tired of you butting in to my conversations. The reason I "obsess" over this is because Paramount's home entertainment division has been doing this final-season-number omission practice for years, and judging by how the did the sines for the last three releases I mentioned, are unlikely to stop this practice anytime soon, or ever. Any available attempts to contact Paramount/ViacomCBS about this "practice" will just be met with generic replies, and nothing else will be done to correct this problem. Frankly, when other users are ask me this in the future, they would be just forcing me to repeat the exact same things over and over and over.

It's a public forum so you can't be telling people to "butt out of your conversations" just because you don't like what people are saying.

Why is the number being included on final season DVD releases so important to you? How is it a problem if it's not included?

James28
02-09-2021, 04:56 PM
It's because I believe in order, thank you. There's a chance that I might get into a Paramount show I like, only for the season-number omission to occur with the boxset for the show's last season. Then I'll have to wait for the complete series boxsst to come out (I sure hope they have layaway plans on those), or just wait till that show's last season is available on an SVoD platform and miss out on the special features that are in the boxset.

But JamesG, I already told you not to reply to me or post in my threads if you're not going to be nice to me. I don't care if this is a public forum, just do not give me any more mean replies. If you do overpower me with your mean replies in the future, I promise you, you will be stripped of your moderator powers. I mean it this time.

JamesG
02-09-2021, 05:01 PM
It's because I believe in order, thank you. There's a chance that I might get into a Paramount show I like, only for the season-number omission to occur with the boxset for the show's last season. Then I'll have to wait for the complete series boxsst to come out (I sure hope they have layaway plans on those), or just wait till that show's last season is available on an SVoD platform and miss out on the special features that are in the boxset.

But JamesG, I already told you not to reply to me or post in my threads if you're not going to be nice to me. I don't care if this is a public forum, just do not give me any more mean replies. If you do overpower me with your mean replies in the future, I promise you, you will be stripped of your moderator powers. I mean it this time.

What are you talking about? I asked you a question... I did not berate you or say anything mean. :confused:

TJ
02-09-2021, 05:03 PM
This thread has run its course. It's been discussed to death. Let's move on.

James28 and JamesG, you guys can handle your issues privately.

James28
08-27-2023, 07:46 PM
Both the CW's reboots of Dynasty (season five) (https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61XHXUARV2L._SL1000_.jpg) and Charmed (season four) (https://www.amazon.com/Charmed-Final-Season-Stuart-Gillard/dp/B0BGKTLBR2/ref=sr_1_2?crid=3VX1EDB4W6VXQ&keywords=charmed+season+4+2018&qid=1693178563&s=movies-tv&sprefix=charmed+season+4+2018%2Cmovies-tv%2C506&sr=1-2) both have their season numbers omitted just like their original versions!

I thought with ViacomCBS's renaming to Paramount Global that this season-number-omission practice would cease altogether, but nope; it just hasn't run its course at all. You've disappointed and spited fans of those series-es again. S#!+ like this is proving why DVD and Blu-Ray are losing ground to streaming video on demand these days.

This is also being done with NCIS: Los Angeles's season fourteen too.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/91BSd-ZJSeL._SL1500_.jpg
:angryfireIt can't be THAT hard to put in the words "SEASON FOURTEEN" on that yellow band on the boxset's spine, but they lazily HAD to put the words "FINAL SEASON" instead. Typical Paramount motherf#ckers wanting to do me DIRTY! Every! Single! Time!:angryfire This will lead me to say "Screw your DVD-exclusive special features!". Paramount's Home Entertainment division are such bitches! They can bite me at this point for all I care!

#TerribleDistributors

stevea
08-28-2023, 07:56 PM
I just checked NCIS New Orleans on Amazon, and the Synopsis says "seventh and final season."

If Amazon doesn't make it clear, there are sources like IMDb and other episode guides that show the season numbers.

This whole thing seems like much ado about nothing.

TJ
08-28-2023, 08:24 PM
If you do a search for NCIS: Los Angeles on Amazon, you can see 800+ copies have been bought this month. It must not matter to many people. 11+ years of complaining about it hasn't changed anything. CBS DVD/Paramount clearly haven't been reading any of your posts.
Maybe you should lodge a formal complaint with them directly.

Do you really think anyone picks it up and sees only "The Final Season" on it and passes on it or decides to return it? How do you know the back cover or any sheet/booklet doesn't mention it? It doesn't prevent anyone from properly arranging them by season on their shelves. Final means you put it at the end. Enough said.

Naming it "The Final Season" is probably for marketing reasons. It's why they put "Final Chance" or "Last Chance" before they are gone on many items.

I agree that it would be better if they included the season number with the "and Final Season", but it's not a dealbreaker for me. When I put the DVD covers up on the site, I try to include the season number in parentheses as a courtesy.

James28
08-30-2023, 11:56 PM
^^Listen, TJ, just don't try to make me care, alright? Matter of fact, every other member of this board, don't try to make me care. All those continued season-number omissions over the past 10-20 years are just flat-out stubbornness on CBS/Paramount's part. "SEASON FOURTEEN" are the only words that need to be on that yellow band on the spine on that NCIS: Los Angeles season 145 DVD box-set. I don't care if it really is the last season for that show. Why don't retailers just put stickers over ALL mentions of the words "FINAL SEASON" on those box sets? It is clear that if you're a show that's owned by CBS/Paramount Global, whether all of the other box-sets are labelled either "SEASON X" or "THE XTH SEASON", the final-season's DVD box-set WILL fall victim to this season-number-omission curse no matter what. I agree that this practice should have ran its course a long time ago, but as shown by the complete omission of the word "FOURTEEN" from the NCIS: Los Angeles final-season packaging's spine, this omission practice will never have run its course, ever, and CBS/Paramount isn't ever going to stop this omission practice. :angryfireAnd because of that inexcusable practice alone (which I really wish hadn't been made to apply to every CBS/Paramount show in the first place), CBS/Paramount can really bite me for sure. YOU DO NOT NEED TO PUT THE WORDS "FINAL SEASON" ON THAT SMALL YELLOW BAND; JUST THE WORDS "SEASON FOURTEEN" AND NOTHING ELSE BESIDES THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S NOT THAT GODDAMN MOTHERFXXKING HARD TO FIGURE OUT!!!!:angryfire And to think, I used to watch NCIS: LA regularly for a couple of years until it moved to Mondays in season 6.

I also want to see EVERY episode of EVERY show from the CBS/Paramount library who has had the season numbers omitted from their final-season DVD boxes made available on Paramount+, without any exceptions, period. The existence of all these SVoD services has proven that DVD isn't the end-all-and-be-all we thought it was in the 2000s decade.

TJ
08-31-2023, 12:14 AM
Unless people start boycotting these Final Season DVD releases which omit the season number, I don't see them changing the practice. Maybe a mass e-mail campaign or petition could work.

To the vast majority of people, it just doesn't matter.

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JamesG
08-31-2023, 12:59 AM
As I said here earlier, just be grateful it's even being released on physical media and call it a day. No big deal.

blueberrymuffin
08-31-2023, 08:41 AM
If you do a search for NCIS: Los Angeles on Amazon, you can see 800+ copies have been bought this month. It must not matter to many people. 11+ years of complaining about it hasn't changed anything. CBS DVD/Paramount clearly haven't been reading any of your posts.
Maybe you should lodge a formal complaint with them directly.

Do you really think anyone picks it up and sees only "The Final Season" on it and passes on it or decides to return it? How do you know the back cover or any sheet/booklet doesn't mention it? It doesn't prevent anyone from properly arranging them by season on their shelves. Final means you put it at the end. Enough said.

Naming it "The Final Season" is probably for marketing reasons. It's why they put "Final Chance" or "Last Chance" before they are gone on many items.

I agree that it would be better if they included the season number with the "and Final Season", but it's not a dealbreaker for me. When I put the DVD covers up on the site, I try to include the season number in parentheses as a courtesy.

Oh, cool, I was going to write just this here without having seen the thread itself. :lol: I agree with everything you said. It's not really a big deal, and I think it being labeled "final season" might even increase sales, similar to sets with "complete series" on the box too.


As I said here earlier, just be grateful it's even being released on physical media and call it a day. No big deal.

Definitely, especially nowadays.

James28
08-31-2023, 09:56 AM
Then, that's it... I will never get invested or attached to any CBS shows produced in-house (current or future) again for fear of them falling victim to this practice, even though other studios never do it as often. (This happening to The Neighborhood, CBS's current top owned sitcom, is worth worrying about as its run continues.) This is because it depends on the studio/distributor releasing their TV shows. There is no way to contact CBS/Paramount directly to ask them about all these season-number omissions, and even if I did, all I'm going to get is a generic reply, and ultimately, nothing will be done to resolve this problem.

If those same final-season DVDs are re-released in the distant future, and the season number is still completely omitted, that is grounds for disappointment. I'll bet the DVDs of The Andy Griffith Show's eighth season with the original season-number-less original cover packaging are probably out-of-print by now.If Paramount is going to completely omit the season numbers on the last seasons of every single show in their library, then yes, it's definitely a big deal, alright. All I wanted to know is WHY DOES PARAMOUNT HOME ENTERTAINMENT HAVE TO COMPLETELY OMIT THE SEASON NUMBERS ON DVDS OF THE LAST SEASONS ON TV SHOWS IN THE FIRST PLACE?!!

And why can't other studios (like Warner Bros., 20th Century, etc.) completely omit season numbers from the DVDs of their TV shows' final seasons? Why does it have to be just one major studio/distributor omitting season numbers? I swear, because of this, I will never watch any shows from the CBS/Paramount TV library again!

#UntrustworthyDistributor

JamesG
08-31-2023, 01:40 PM
James28, if you don’t want to watch any CBS/Paramount show then that is your choice. The fact is that actual fans of the show will purchase the DVDs whether the final season number is displayed on the packaging or not.

I assure you that you’re one of the only people who’s spitting fireballs because of this.

opus
08-31-2023, 04:18 PM
What happens if they released, say, Fraiser: The Final Season, and then a few decades later the show comes back, and then they release those episodes?

stevea
09-12-2023, 10:19 AM
What happens if they released, say, Fraiser: The Final Season, and then a few decades later the show comes back, and then they release those episodes?

Nah, they never bring back shows that ended years earlier!

TJ
09-22-2023, 01:37 PM
James28 will be none too pleased with this upcoming CBS DVD/Paramount release.

10/24: Nancy Drew - The Final Season (https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0CJ4C1X7R/happydaysonline8-20)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61AlwgPVu-L._SY445_.jpg

They got it right with Riverdale.

11/28 - Riverdale - The Seventh and Final Season (https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0CHDNN9M2/happydaysonline8-20)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/811TC0mLxcL._SY445_.jpg

opus
09-22-2023, 02:47 PM
I’m still waiting for Sydney: The First And Final Season

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JamesG
10-21-2023, 10:54 AM
Magnum P.I.: The Final Season

:rock::rock:

James28
10-21-2023, 04:26 PM
^^Goddamnit, Paramount...

Another reason to stick with the original Magnum P.I. series and wish the reboot never got a series order...

MRPITT
10-21-2023, 09:52 PM
I for one am not at all bothered by what is written on the box. They can send me a blank box. All I care about is the video content. I’m must glad some of these shows were released at all.

TJ
11-28-2023, 04:57 PM
2024 is already shaping up to be the year of "The Final Season" releases. Will we see The Final Seasons of Blue Bloods, La Brea, S.W.A.T., SEAL Team, Superman & Lois, Yellowstone and Young Sheldon on DVD?

All the Shows We Already Know Are Ending in 2024 (https://www.tvinsider.com/gallery/tv-shows-canceled-ending-2024/)

1/16 - Billions - The Final Season (https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0CLS465D5/happydaysonline8-20)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81fEfIkJEaL._SY445_.jpg

EccentricGenius
11-30-2023, 05:02 PM
Shout! Factory--now known as Shout! Studios--released the eighth and final season of Diff'rent Strokes in May 2018 (five years ago!) as "The Complete Final Season," although its title on the spine of the DVD case reads, as clear as day, "The Complete Eighth Season." In the words of Kenan Thompson on Saturday Night Live, "What up with that?"

James28
11-30-2023, 10:56 PM
https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=296268&stc=1&d=1697900042
Should the complete series of the 2018 version of Magnum PI be made available on Paramount+? The move of that series from CBS to NBC after its fourth season has made things complicated regarding its distribution on SVoD services. NBC has its own SVoD service named Peacock, and Magnum PI 2018 is available there. Maybe they should've let Universal Home Entertainment handle this final-season release instead of Paramount.