I will list some prominent cases and I want to hear what you think became of them, who is responsible and/or what possibly happened to them.

Jodi Huisentruit
Angela Hammond
Kristi Krebs
Leah Roberts
Wil Hendrick
Amy Bechtel
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman
Amy Bradley
Jeremy Bright
Tara Breckenridge

I will give you those 10 for now so I'm not bombarding you with a load of cases.

Jodi Huisentruit
Angela Hammond
Kristi Krebs
Leah Roberts
Wil Hendrick
Amy Bechtel
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman
Amy Bradley
Jeremy Bright
Tara Breckenridge

Jodi Huisentruit - I think she was abducted by someone who was stalking her (possibly saw her on TV) and was killed shortly after she disappeared.

Kristi Krebs - need to rewatch this segment, can't really remember the specifics.

Leah Roberts - they didn't mention this on UM, but on "Disappeared" they mentioned a suspect who was seen eating with Leah at a restaurant who also had knowledge of cars, and I think this guy killed her, took her car and abandoned it and tampered with it to make it seem like she had car troubles. Wish I could elaborate more, but it's been awhile since I've seen the "Disappeared" show.

Wil Hendrick - I think something happened at that party that he was last seen at and was killed by someone (or a group of people) there. People at that party definitely know more than what they're telling.

Amy Bechtel - I'm almost 50/50 on this one. Her husband could have something to do with her disappearance (his refusal to cooperate with the authorities over a simple question is kind of baffling), but I also think it's possible that she stumbled on a random serial killer.

Laura Bible/Ashley Freeman - I think whoever killed the Freeman's also took Laura and Ashley out of trailer and killed them and dumped their bodies elsewhere.

Amy Bradley - She fell overboard after drinking all night long.

Jeremy Bright - Any one of the theories presented in UM could be valid here. Whatever happened, the three men who's names kept popping up definitely murdered him and hid his body somewhere.

Tara Breckinridge - I always go 50/50 on this one. Wayne Hecker could have killed her after a fight, but then again she also could have had legitimate car problems and was picked up by either a random sicko, or the customer who had a strange fascination with her.

I will list some prominent cases and I want to hear what you think became of them, who is responsible and/or what possibly happened to them.

Jodi Huisentruit
Angela Hammond
Kristi Krebs
Leah Roberts
Wil Hendrick
Amy Bechtel
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman
Amy Bradley
Jeremy Bright
Tara Breckenridge

I will give you those 10 for now so I'm not bombarding you with a load of cases.

I think Jodi Huisentruit was definitely abducted and most likely killed not long after. From everything that was mentioned about her in the segment, she just doesn't sound like somebody who was capable of disappearing on purpose, and I think it was a random abduction, because there didn't seem to be anything in her background that might indicate a specific person who would have a reason for taking her.

I think Angela Hammond is sadly long since dead. Like Jodi, she was someone who was liked by pretty much everybody, and didn't seem to have anything shadowy going on that you would think would lead up to this, so it was probably a random abduction. Also, this case has dragged on for more than 20 years without any major breaks. I think if Angela was still alive, something would have given by now.

I think the most likely theory about Kristi Krebs is that she had a nervous breakdown. I'm on the fence about whether or not foul play was involved in this one, because there was one witness who actually gave her a ride sometime after she disappeared from the woods, and after spending some time with and talking to this person, I think it's unlikely that the witness is mistaken. Whether or not she's dead or alive is questionable at this point, but I think that there's somewhat of a chance that she's alive, and if she's dead, I think it's just as likely that it could be from exposure or possibly even suicide as opposed to being murdered.

I think that there is a possibility that Leah Roberts is alive somewhere with amnesia. It was mentioned at the end of the segment that someone believed to be her was spotted and described as disoriented and disheveled, but otherwise alive and unharmed. Also, I think there's a possibility that she could of disappeared deliberately, because she left behind a lot of the things and people that were part of her life to embark on a journey of spiritual self-discovery, and it was also mentioned that she had had to endure the deaths of several close family members, so I think yet another possibility is that she left to escape all that grief, and it eventually got to her in such a way that caused amnesia or a nervous breakdown.

I think that Wil Hendrick was murdered either because of the confrontation that took place at that party he was at, or as a retaliatory act by the person who slurred at Wil's partner after the partner fired this person from his company.

Like some other people, I'm definitely not sure about Amy Bechtel. The journals kept by her husband are admittedly disturbing, but there's still no way of knowing if they have any bearing at all on what happened to Amy, and I don't have a strong feeling that her husband was involved, and I can NEVER fault somebody or view them suspiciously for refusing to take a lie detector test. They are frequently inaccurate, there are things, such as anxiety, depression, sickness, or being on medication that can easily make a mess of the results. It's simply not a good way to garner information, and if I were under suspicion for something that I knew I wasn't guilty of, I would absolutely NOT want to entrust my fate to a machine that may not know what it's talking about. Also, even though Amy was an experienced outdoors person, the place where she was last seen is still a place of formidable and dangerous terrain where it would not be overly uncommon for someone to suffer accidental death.

I'm probably more on the fence about Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible than anybody else on this list. I would hate to think that they were involved, and although I'm not headstrong in thinking that's what definitely happened, I can't completely shake off that possibility either. At one point, there were two people (unknown to each other) who had confessed to murdering them, but one confession was determined to be false, and the other one unreliable. There was also the possibility that Vinita, Oklahoma law enforcement personnel were on bad terms with the Freemans, and at one point, one officer was believed to have said something to Danny Freeman to the effect of "we'll do what we want and there's nothing you can do about it," in a rather threatenting manner, so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of involvement on the part of law enforcement.

I'm not sure I believe that Amy Bradley accidentally fell overboard. Even if she'd been drunk, it's still hard to imagine her deliberately going near the railing by herself. I think that either she was kidnapped and possibly killed by a member of the cruise staff, or she was abducted by someone on one of the islands and forced to sell herself. One thing that I find suspicious on the part of the ship staff is that they didn't immediately honor the family's request to have Amy's name said aloud over the P.A.. It doesn't matter how early it is or how many people are asleep; when there is a potentially serious emergency like that, the ship should immediately go on lockdown.

It's hard to say either one thing or the other about Jeremy Bright as to whether he was shot while swimming or given a drink with poison in it or what have you, but I think one thing that is probably certain is that he suffered a horrible and unnecessary death at the hands of the local teenagers.

For the longest time, I thought that Tara Breckenridge's disappearance was either a random abduction, or something that could possibly be traced back to her place of employment. I didn't think that her boyfriend was involved. However, someone claiming to be one of his exes posted on another thread, saying that Wayne Hecker was abusive and controlling, as well as involved in illegal activities, so if it was a legitimate posting, then my original perception of Wayne would certainly be skewered now.

Tara Brekenridge is so similar to Dottie Caylor, Christi Nichols, Wendy Camp, Susan Harrison, Charlotte Pollis, etc....controlling man in the life who snapped when the power of the relationship came out of his control.

The reason they are also similar is the fact that all the murders were committed by males, mostly all with low IQ, but for some way or another all got away with it.

I forgot to mention Angela Hammond. I think what happened to her is exactly what her boyfriend Rob described and she was killed shortly after being abducted. I can't imagine the horrors she went through...

Tara Breckenridge and Amy Bechtel are two missing persons cases where the spouses are under suspicion and could have possibly been abusive, but ultimately, I don't think they had anything to with the disappearances.

I'm sure that Wayne Hecker probably wasn't the greatest boyfriend in the world and very well could have been abusive to Tara, but I really don't think he could have killed her and successfully disposed of her body in such a narrow timeframe. I lean towards the theory that she had car trouble and was picked by a random abductor.

Even though there's no evidence to suggest it, I've always been intrigued by the theory that Lisa Kimmel's killer, Dale Wayne Eaton, could have been responsible for Amy Bechtel's disappearance since he was known to be in the area at the time. I really don't think Steve Bechtel had anything to do with it. It is certainly possible he could have been abusive towards Amy, and I've always wondered if one of his main reasons for not taking a lie detector test was to avoid answering any potentially incriminating questions about whether he caused those bruises she had. But if his own attorney advised him not to take the test, I can't blame Steve for listening to him.

As for Amy Bradley, I was never completely sold on the "sex slave" theory until I saw the recent episode of Beth Holloway's "Vanished", which presented some pretty compelling evidence and fairly credible eyewitness accounts of Amy under duress. Sex slave or not, I've never believed she simply fell overboard as cruise ship railings are supposed to be designed to prevent that, and I'm inclined to believe that someone on that ship did something bad to her.

Will probably present my thoughts on some of the others when I have more time...

Amy Bradley - She didn't fall off the side of the ship. She was abducted by someone when she left the room while her parents were still asleep. It was 5 in the morning, there were few people about, nobody would have noticed. The witness sightings sound very credible. And they had nothing to gain by coming forward seeing that they turned down the money reward the Bradley's were offering for information. I even buy the sex slavery theory and the fact that it could have gone on for years. But I doubt she is alive today.

Angela Hammond - Rob is innocent. Everything happened as he said. Sadly, I think her attacker raped and killed her within hours of her abduction and he dumped her body somewhere in the countryside around rural Missouri which surrounds Clinton.

Wil Hendrick - The confrontation with the party boys upstairs always concerned me. These boys might have been homophobic but I don't see them as cold blooded killers. I think they were just stupid and incredibly drunk. When Will parted with Katie, I think he went upstairs to confront the boys and they might have ganged up on him and somehow accidently killed him. Then they panicked and dumped his body somewhere outside of Moscow.

Jeremy Bright - Local boys killed him. Another accidental death that was covered up.

Tara Breckenridge stumps me because of the location where her car was found...

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It's not an ideal place to kidnap someone. I have no clue about this one.

I think Steve Becthel's reaction to the PD accusing him of "knowing more than he was saying" was probably warranted (if he truely didn't have anything to do with them) and he also had every right to request legal counsel when they wanted him to take a polygraph. I still think it's odd that because of that alone he flat out refused to cooperate with them any further. Wouldn't you want to do everything in your power to find your wife, especially with the resources law enforcement has? He just came off as whiny to me in the segment, like he felt he was victimized, when in reality the first person LE looks into is the missing person's spouse.

I like the responses you all have given me. Alot of them are very good points and possibilities. I'll let more people answer and then let me know if and when you want me to name more people so you all can answer those like the other 10 above.

Name more people!!!

I think Jeremy Bright was killed at the hands of Terry and David Steinhoff. IMO, they saw him and coerced him to go somewhere with them shortly after he finished talking with his mom on the pay phone at the fairgrounds. Then I don't know whether they accidentally killed him or intentionally murdered him, but I think they probably shot him.

Here's where I think it might have gotten more disturbing: I think after Jeremy died from his wounds, the Steinhoffs decided that they were going to make sure that he was never found (obviously so they would never be charged with his murder) so I think (unfortunately) that they dismembered his body and that this is why David Steinhoff was seen with a pool of blood on his shirt and why Johnny Fish seemed scarred for life from that point on. What they did with his dismembered body, I'm not sure.

That's my theory as to what happened to him.

Amy Bechtel - I think Dale Wayne Eaton is responsible for her disappearance. He was in the area, heck his own brother puts him on the road Amy would have used.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman - I tend to believe the theory that Danny was a small time drug dealer. This pissed another dealer off, and he sent someone there to take care of Danny. They took the girls, did whatever they wanted with them, killed them and dumped the bodies. I don't think the cops had anything to do with it, due to dropping out and handing the case over to the Oklahoma Bureau after Danny's body was found. If the girls would have done it, they would have been found by now.

Jeremy Bright - I believe the accidental death theory.

Tara Breckenridge - I don't think Wayne had anything to do with it. I think Tara had a stalker at the club, who messed with her car, followed her, and abducted her under the guise of giving her a ride.

ok, here is 10 more people (you can still answer the first 10 if you wish)

Katherine Korzilius
Bryan Nisenfeld
Cynthia Anderson
Sabrina Aisenberg
A.J. Breaux
Dottie Caylor
Anthonette Cayedito
Leonard Dirickson
Hugh Harlin
Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes

ok, here is 10 more people (you can still answer the first 10 if you wish)

Katherine Korzilius
Bryan Nisenfeld
Cynthia Anderson
Sabrina Aisenberg
A.J. Breaux
Dottie Caylor
Anthonette Cayedito
Leonard Dirickson
Hugh Harlin
Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes

Katherine Korzilius - This is a really difficult one, but my best guess is that she was abducted and killed in the vacant lot near the edge of her neighborhood and deliberately placed where she was found. I do NOT believe the theory of her jumping onto and then falling off of the back of her parents' SUV, nor do I think it was an accidental hit and run. Her injuries and the position of her body when it was found suggest something much more deliberate.

Bryan Nisenfeld - This is a hard one, too. I don't think it was suicide, but I'm really split on whether it was accidental or murder. He very well could have been murdered, and because of the harassing phone calls, there was certainly a reason for him to be scared, but I think the possibility of an accident is likely also. Because he liked to sit and read on a jetty near the ocean, I think it's possible that he could have slipped and fallen off of them, possibly hitting his head, and drowned in the ocean. The thing that really makes this one difficult is that his foot is the only part of him that was ever found, so whether it became detached from his body as a result of being dismembered or simply because sea animals were eating away at his corpse is something that really can't be said either way.

Cynthia Anderson - I think she was murdered because she was either a whistle-blower or was going to be one. I'm not sure if anybody knows this, but on at least one Lifetime airing of the episode with this segment, an update was shown, explaining that several people had been indicted on charges relating to illegal drug activity. While nothing concerning Cindy's fate was definitively proven, it was mentioned that one of the people indicted was Cindy's employer at the time she went missing, and that there was a possibility that she was murdered because she said something or was going to say something that would have exposed what he was involved in.

Sabrina Aisenberg - As far as Sabrina herself being dead or alive, I really don't have a solid theory either way, but I definitely believe that her parents know more than they're saying. Unlike the Darlie Routier case, where there is some physical evidence that might cast at least some doubt upon her guilt, there is nothing to go on in this case other than the word of the Aisenbergs versus the word of investigators, and I agree that some of the Aisenbergs' behavior following the disappearance is definitely suspicious (the smiling incident, and hiring an attorney almost from the get-go).

A.J. Breaux - I think he's most likely dead at this point. However, I think that the sightings of him being drunk and confused have some good credibility, because from what I remember (I haven't seen the segment in a little while), is that these witnesses where people that either knew him somewhat, or had the opportunity to have more than just a split-second glimpse of him. Also, despite several years of being sober, this is somebody who was a known alcoholic, so it wouldn't be all that far-fetched to assume that he was drinking again. Ultimately, I think he was probably killed by the people he was seen in the company of.

Dottie Caylor - I may be in the minority, but I'm not totally convinced that her husband is responsible. I'm not necessarily convinced that he's totally innocent either and I don't necessarily fault people who are convinced that he's guilty, but it's hard for me to say that he definitely did it, because he just seems like too much of a kooky stupida** to be the mastermind of something so provocative that has dragged on for nearly 30 years without anything major evidence surfacing. It was well known that it was a bad marriage, and during the last couple of years, Dottie had taken several notable measures to assert some new independence, and I think it's a possibility that she did run off on purpose to start a new life, possibly with the support of some of these new female friends of hers, and that the appeal of this newfound freedom and independence might have made it easier for her to put her agoraphobia on the back burner the day she disappeared. One thing, however, that does throw a wrench into that scenario is that she was never heard from again by her sister, which was insisted to be uncharacteristic, so from that end, she could very well be deceased, whether or not at the hands of her husband I'm not sure.

Anthonette Cayedito - I think whoever kidnapped her knew the family or had information about them, because it was strongly insisted that she would not have opened a door for just anybody. The person had to know that she had an uncle Joe. I think it's unlikely that she's still alive today.

Leonard Dirickson - From what was said in the segment, it did not sound like he was somebody who would disappear on purpose. The guy driving the white Ford F-150 was mentioned at the time only as someone wanted for questioning, but I would definitely consider him to be a suspect. For starters, Leonard Dirickson's house was not the easiest place to get to, so it would have been unusual for a stranger to just drive by accidentally, and this person had also apparently wanted to buy a horse from Leonard that had NOT been designated as for sale. I think the man either knew or at least knew of Leonard Dirickson, and for reasons unknown, either killed him or did something that resulted in his disappearance. Also, I think that the person who said they saw Leonard dancing at a bar months after he went missing is probably mistaken. It just seems too weird and out of place in this situation.

Hugh Harlin - My best guess is that he's dead by now, but I've long been torn about this one. To me he doesn't immediately strike me as a murderer, but some of his behavior immediately following his wife's death, as well as some of the circumstances of his own disappearance, seems a bit suspicious to me. His friends who were interviewed who say that he wouldn't be involved in something like that seem like regular, everyday people who probably don't have any reason to lie, so I'm not really sure what to think.

Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes - We know that Sharon was killed in a questionable accident that Franklin Floyd is believed to be behind, and though there has been no evidence to suggest that Michael is dead, I think he probably is. Franklin Floyd is a very sick and demented person, yet very intelligent and methodical at the same time, and I sincerely believe that he does know the answers to all of the disturbing questions that surround this case. Hopefully, when the time comes where his death is imminent, he'll talk while on his deathbed. If he doesn't, then I think that there will be almost no hope of this one ever being solved.

Sabrina Aisenberg

I strongly believe that the parents murdered her....either intentionally, or an accident that they wanted to cover up.
There is just NO trace of anyone in their house, and babies are rarely taken by strangers. (i'm not saying it doesn't happen, but by and large, it is often a family member.)

Let me know when you want me to name more people. You can still answer the other 20 if you haven't already. :talk:

Katherine Korzilius - the coroner's findings that her injuries were consistent with a fall from a vehicle sealed it for me. I the theory of her climbing on to the back of her mother's vehicle and falling off is the most plausible one. The abduction does not make sense, IMO.

A.J. Breaux - this one's always been a tough one for me. I don't necessarily like to believe the more "out there" theories (like AJ being abducted by 3 "unknown men" for some unknown nefarious reason and being driven around the town being seen by several people), but this case could honestly go either way. He could have gone on a bender and killed himself out of embarassment and he very well could have been abducted and murdered for unknown reasons.

Dottie Caylor - Jule Caylor is guilty, no doubt. He killed her and buried her somewhere, IMO.

Anthonette Cayedito - unfortunately I think she's dead. I don't believe her younger sisters story of "Uncle Joe" coming over in the middle of the night. She waited five years to tell the story, and she apparently went to sleep right after seeing her sister being abducted. She may have been abducted, but I don't think it went down like the sister was claiming. Something accidental could have happened as well, and the abduction story was simply a cover. I guess we'll never really know.

Leonard Dirikson - I think whoever was last seen with Leonard was responsible for his disappearance. I do not believe he is still alive. It's pure speculation on why someone would have wanted Leonard dead, and there really hasn't been one standout theory that seems the most likely. UM left out a lot of information in this case, IMO.

Jodi Huisentruit- She was probably abducted and killed by someone who knew her fairly well, based on the circumstances.
Angela Hammond- The "filthy, bearded man" probably got her.
Kristi Krebs- Wandered off and got taken advantage of by someone with bad intentions.
Leah Roberts- Not entirely sure, but I doubt she is alive anymore.
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman- Were taken by whoever burned the trailer, probably deceased.
Amy Bradley- The guy from the band had something to do with her disappearance.
Tara Breckenridge- The one who was leaving her notes at her job seemed creepy, may harmed her.

I’m relatively new here and will offer my two cents and highlight some specific areas of concern that I possess with each case. Normally when I post, I try to utilize criminological tactics that I study which usually can be best described as, “When I hear hoofbeats, I think horses, not zebras”.... I don’t usually buy into the more extreme, UM scenarios and usually TRY to accept the most rational alternative, but that doesn’t mean I’ll always ascribe to it. This is a neat sleuth thead!

Jodi Huisentruit: This case is especially puzzling. The fact that she’d been woken up by her co-worker as she’d slept in for work makes me wonder if she was alone at the time of the phone call, as it is EXTREMELY unprofessional for an anchorperson such as she to sleep in, since it’s such an cutthroat and competitive business. This inconsistent behaviour that would have gone against her natural routine of waking up early strikes me as very odd, especially on the day of her disappearance. Here’s where I’d take issue with a proposed stalker taking her on her way out the door, as he would’ve been following her routine to know when to attack....when she slept in, it would’ve thrown his timing off and ergo, most likely thrown a monkey wrench into any planned kidnapping. Now, I wouldn’t rule out that she had been the victim of a focused, stalker-esque attack that occurred ‘inside her apartment’ at the night prior/early morning hours and when the phone rang, she was made to answer it and provide an off-cue improvisation and an abduction ensued from there. I just can’t help but find a sticking point on her answering the phonecall having slept in.....was that even her who answered?

Angela Hammond: Given that local PD connected her disappearance with others clerks in the area, I don’t think it would be difficult to surmise the unfortunate outcome.

However one point of note which I DO find to be quite fantastical that the boyfriend was the only person(?) to witness Angie having been abducted in the truck (please correct me if there are other witnesses of her being taken away), experiences the phone conversation and eventually engages in hot pursuit of her abductor, when his transmission blows....I would feel alot more comfortable if there was independent corroboration beyond the boyfriend and am curious as to what circumstances he was cleared. Not to say I don’t believe his story, but that’s really all we have to go on, correct me if I’m mistaken....

Kristi Krebs: Unfortunately, I think another psychotic related break is the most reasonable explanation here, at which point I she may have succumbed to exposure to the elements and animal predation.

Leah Roberts: While at first glance I could absorb the idea of “going Kerouac”, given the insights provided by the Investigation Discovery “Disappeared” episode, I would definately not rule out foul play here since young females travelling alone are tremendously vulnerable and there seems to be a bit of info leading towards this.

Wil Hendrick: I believe his remains were found by hunters, not a clue here.

Amy Bechtel: There’s a very fine argument for convicted killer, Dale Wayne Eaton, which is my best assumption here.
However with that said, I really don’t like it when loved ones refuse polygraphs, going against the most common drive of recusing themselves as potential suspects to allow law enforcement to forge onward with their investigation. It’s completely in his rights, but comes off as difficult and thus, raises an eyebrow or two. That said, of all the questionable husbands I’ve seen on UM throughout the years, this one seems more believable/credible than most, which says something as I almost always find them to be hinky as hell.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman: I think the most commonly asserted scenario here is what probably occurred.
That said, I’ve always had issues with how the local PD could possibly miss Dan Freeman’s remains in their original search, even taking into account basic human error. Given the innuendo surrounding Danny possibly dealing narcotics, I could see this being a situation where the girls were caught up in a drug dispute and killed off site(possibly in front of a living Dan Freeman as punishment/interrogation?) or just taken and killed as collateral damage afterwards. UM does breed alot of whiffs of conspiracy, don’t know how much I’d buy into on this one, but would hazard that the girls are most likely victims of homicide.

Amy Bradley: I really hate cruise ship cases, there are just so many possible angles to work here(where the heck do you start?) and I’ve read there’s usually a cavalcade of redtape which surrounds these ships’ internal security procedures and basic quality and competency. I’ve heard alot about the sex slavery theory, and don’t find it THAT unlikely, however given that mixing alcohol and the open sea is never a good combination, I’d lean slightly towards that as more probable. I hope so at least.

Jeremy Bright: I really don’t believe the “carny runaway” theory and think that a foul play scenario fits best here for me given all that has come to light surrounding the parties accused.

Tara Breckenridge: Boyfriend. Gotta apply basic occam’s razor idiom to this case.

Dottie Caylor: Husband. Occam’s razor applied here again, but this time in cohesion with a multitude of improbable actions all coalescing at the same time, which to my criminological knowledge, is highly statistically improbable.

Katherine Korzilius: A botched child abduction seems very likely. Disgustingly, if this is in a suburban sprawl area as one may deduct from the UM footage, there’s a very strong possibly that someone within the community, who has familiarity with the area exploited the child for a potential abduction, only to use too much force and kill the child upon the initial attack.

Bryan Nisenfeld: Very mysterious one, my gut-instinct says foul play.
However, when taking into account the potential homosexual undercurrents here, especially when with burgeoning adulthood, there is a possibility of great internal struggle/strife and torment, with young adults of his age being quite prone to depression in certain scenarios, suicide isn’t out of the realm.

Cynthia Anderson: Is it possible she was just at the wrong place, wrong time? Or, is it something far more insidious to do with some possible clientele of the law offices, information that shouldn’t have been seen, or maybe as mentioned above, she could’ve been a whistleblower perhaps?

Sabrina Aisenberg: I’ve seen a 2 hour Dateline/48 Hrs on this case, which happened to frame the parents in a rather quizzical light, to which I’m on the fence about to this day. From my criminological training, when children disappear, there is a far narrower dragnet of potential suspects to rundown because, well, they know far fewer people than adults or even adolescents and are far less mobile(obviously). Statistically, I lean towards parental involvement here, but then again, stranger abductions DO occur....55/45.

A.J. Breaux: Is an alcohol relapse which triggered a shame-induced suicide possible? Seems a little more practical than some mysterious murder of a middle aged man that comes up with so few leads....

Anthonette Cayedito: Someone familiar with the family had to convince her to open the door utilizing her uncle’s name. If PD had taken a run at those surrounding the family, I think they probably could whittle down the list of suspects.

Leonard Dirickson: A failing business, debt AND a harsh divorce seems like a solid case for either an intentional disappearance or a suicide. While it is hard for people to believe one could leave/abandon their child(even at age 19), it is not a factor I would regard as insurmountable, especially for men who reach a certain age.

Hugh Harlin: This one gives me the heebie geebies. Given the eccentricities and twists of this case, phew I’m at a total loss.

Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes: The worst case scenario. Franklin Floyd checks all the boxes for the worst kind of psychopath. Definately in need of five minutes alone with Vic Mackey.

"Anthonette Cayedito: Someone familiar with the family had to convince her to open the door utilizing her uncle’s name. If PD had taken a run at those surrounding the family, I think they probably could whittle down the list of suspects."

unless that story was made up; remember this was supposedly the scenario given from Anthonette's younger sister and I don't believe she told the police this story until quite awhile after her older sister went missing

Jodi Huisentruit - victim of a previously-unknown stalker-type

Angela Hammond - random abduction, probably killed shortly thereafter

Kristi Krebs - mental breakdown + victim of random foul play afterwards

Leah Roberts - the shady guy in the Disappeared episode seems responsible for (probably?) abducting her, tampering with her car, etc.

Wil Hendrick - need to watch episode :)

Amy Bechtel - totally torn...could be creepy hubby OR random killer OR accidental death due to rough terrain.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman - abducted, killed, bodies left elsewhere.

Amy Bradley - either the seemingly outlandish "sex slavery" theory or a random act of violence aboard the ship. I do not think she fell overboard.

Jeremy Bright - accidentally killed by local teens

Tara Breckenridge - 50/50 on this one. Either the controlling boyfriend did it OR random abduction after having car trouble.

Katherine Korzilius - an attempted abduction gone wrong. (I definitely do not think she rode on the back of the car and fell off.)

Bryan Nisenfeld - foul play, but by who? (I have trouble buying the otherwise-plausible suicide theory due to that darn severed foot.)

Cynthia Anderson - NO idea. I'm not sure I buy the "she was killed to keep her from ratting-out her shady bosses" theory. I'm not sure she left to start a new life. I'm thinking "totally random act of abduction/violence" here.

Sabrina Aisenberg - NO idea. Parents seem weird, but the evidence is just not there either way. This case = a total wtf to me. Alien abduction? Men in black? :ufo:

A.J. Breaux - Lots of possibilities, but I'm thinking he went to help a fellow AA-type person, that person (or his/her associates) lashed-out in violence, and somehow AJ fell off the wagon and got caught-up in shady goings-on. Most likely dead, unfortunately.

Dottie Caylor - Very, very torn on this one as well. Maybe Jule did it. Maybe she was randomly taken advantage-of while on the train. Maybe she just took off. There is just SO little evidence in this case! :wallbang

Anthonette Cayedito - Abduction, but by who? And is she still alive?

Leonard Dirickson - need to watch

Hugh Harlin - need to watch

Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes - Sharon was probably the daughter of some sort of "off the grid"-type woman...perhaps a prostitute, drug addict, etc. FDF abducted her (she was probably never even reported missing, perhaps never even noticed to be gone), killed her when she was a young adult, and kidnapped and killed her son. The son is, unfortunately, probably long deceased :(

Bumping so more people can answer

Jodi Huisentruit
Angela Hammond
Kristi Krebs
Leah Roberts
Wil Hendrick
Amy Bechtel
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman
Amy Bradley
Jeremy Bright
Tara Breckenridge


Jodi Huisentruit - deceased and murdered shortly after her disappearance

Angela Hammond - deceased. I don't buy into the sighting of her up in Canada either. I guess there is a 5% chance she staged that entire abduction but that's awfully gutsy to take a chance that Rob wouldn't catch them. I think there is a bigger chance Rob had something to do with the disappearance than that. Personally, I think Rob is innocent and what he did say actually happened

Amy Bechtel - deceased. Possibly by the husband who sort of rubs you the wrong way in the interview. There is the distinct possibility he was beating her but then again as a jogger there are a million possibilities as to how she could have disappeared.

Laura Bible/Ashley Freeman - both deceased. Not involved in the murders and just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Probably got r*ped a time or two before they were murdered.

Tara Breckenridge - deceased. Maybe Wayne Hecker is involved but then again she was a waitress at a strip club and as I've alluded to before she wasn't running into salt of the earth types either all the time. She would have had her share of skittish creeps

Amy Bradley - deceased. Maybe she falls overboard. But then again, there are so many mysterious things that were witnessed on that ship that it makes me wonder. Let's not pretend that everyone employed on a large cruise like that can't be involved with some shady characters.

Katherine Korzilius: A botched child abduction seems very likely. Disgustingly, if this is in a suburban sprawl area as one may deduct from the UM footage, there’s a very strong possibly that someone within the community, who has familiarity with the area exploited the child for a potential abduction, only to use too much force and kill the child upon the initial attack.

I have always thought this was just simply an accident and the family has a hard time grasping that possibility. Why does an abductor throw a kid out the car door? And how could a little girl manage to get loose from an abductor and manage to jump out of the car? The odds that a girl got kidnapped in the 5 minute window that her mother dropped her off to her house is remote. What was it, a 1/4 of a mile? That is either the biggest coincidence in the world or someone was stalking the vehicle. I just think the accident theory makes more sense

Dottie Caylor: I think her husband killed her and doesn't care if anyone finds out because he knows there's not enough evidence to convict him :(

Katherine Korzilius: I tend to agree with the idea that a neighbor might have hit her and panicked and that's why she was lying in the road.

Bryan Nisenfeld: I think he was murdered. The phone call to his father in the middle of the night because he was scared makes me think someone was after him.

Cynthia Anderson: She probably found out too much about something that went down in the law office and they had to get rid of her. :(

Sabrina Aisenberg: Could have been her parents, could have been a random person...not sure.

A.J. Breaux: Maybe someone had a grudge against him for some reason? That or a random abduction.

Anthonette Cayedito: I think the person who came to the door took her and killed her.

Leonard Dirickson: The guy who came to the house probably had something to do with it.

I still don't buy that the Korzilius case was a random accident and if it was, I don't think it had anything to do with her mother's car. While the door could have been locked thus would not have opened if she had grabbed onto it, you simply cannot hold onto, nor would you want to touch, a hot car in August in Texas. Also, she had a splint on her finger; I doubt she would have done that.

I'd like to throw in the Debbie Wolfe case. I think she was murdered by one of the hospital volunteers. Being thrown in the water and the authorities concluding that it was an accident compounded any finding of sexual assault; I think that's probably the motive, unfortunately. Wasn't her uniform found on the floor? It was probably taken off of her or coerced off when she was first attacked and then the random clothing was put upon her to throw off suspicion when she was thrown into the water. I forget, did they conclude that her lungs were full of water or not? She was either killed, then thrown in, or knocked out and thrown in, I think. It's a terrible scenario, but the most likely in my opinion.

I'll add another 10 for you all to answer:

John Cheek
Bonnie Haim
Charlotte Pollis
Doreen Marfeo
Christi Jo Nichols
Adam Hecht
Charles Horvath
Dale Kerstetter
Claudia Kirschhoch
Kristen Modafferi

John Cheek - I think it was most likely a stress-related breakdown. I suppose there's a small chance that he's roaming around with amnesia, but after so much time, I think it's more likely that he's dead, but I think that if that's the case, it's more likely that it was an accident or suicide than anything else.

Bonnie Haim - I don't think there's any other logical explanation than that she was murdered by her husband. Everyone who knows her well swears that she would not deliberately abandon her child, several of her belongings were found in a dumpster, a footprint was found in the floorboards of her car that matches a shoe owned by Michael Haim, the car driver's seat was moved back too far for Bonnie to be able to drive the car comfortably, and perhaps most damningly, this case is unusual in that members of Michael Haim's own family feel pretty certain of his guilt, but Bonnie's father comes to his defense, making some pretty idiotic statements that, at least in my opinion, would hardly cast doubt upon the guilt of Michael Haim.

Charlotte Pollis - Despite the credibility of Charlotte's mother being in question after her abduction of the Pollis children a few years ago, I still think that Paul Pollis is most likely responsible for her death. There are too many things that overwhelmingly suggest it. Cleaning the house for no apparent reason right after the disappearance, his strange behavior in the vicinity of his car, Charlotte's blood being found in the trunk, and though you often have to take the testimony of small children lightly, I find it unusual that a child would just conjure up something as chilling as "I saw mommy being put into a black trash bag" for no reason. I think that the child probably did witness something unspeakably traumatic.

Doreen Marfeo - As far as if, when and where she might be found, that is something I really don't have a solid theory on, other than that there's probably no chance at all that she would be alive at this point. Through several viewings of this segment during the first few years after it was made, I was actually leaning more toward Stephen Marfeo being innocent, but after I saw the update that stated that he'd committed suicide after killing his girlfriend, I think now that he was definitely responsible, and unfortunately since he's dead, it pretty much shoots down any chance of ever finding out exactly what happened to Doreen.

Christi Nichols - There's really nothing I could say that hasn't been said a million times already. Her husband had to have been responsible. I don't think he could have accurately described every single item in the suitcase without having packed it himself, or at the very least, stood over her while she was packing it. Almost everything that he said surrounding the circumstances of her disappearance is in question, and there really are no other viable theories that point to anything or anyone else.

Adam Hecht - This is a really strange one. Based on his friendship with Tony and apparent fascination with homeless culture, I believe that his initial disappearance was voluntary, and that he may have willingly immersed himself in that world, but I can't believe that after more than 20 years, he would still be living under such conditions, and there didn't seem to be anything about him that would make him want to abandon his family. They all seemed to have a close, healthy relationship with each other. My best guess is that he either was killed under suspicious circumstances deep within that skid-row type of environment, or possibly because of the unsanitary conditions of such an environment, he may have died from AIDS or some other deadly disease that could be easily contracted in such an environment. Though Tony was initially cleared as a suspect, he seems like the one person who would probably know something, and I do think that he knows much more than he's saying.

Charles Horvath - I haven't seen this one frequently enough to remember enough about it to give an opinion.

Dale Kerstetter - This is a tough one, but I'm more inclined to believe that he was not willingly involved in the crime. There is some evidence that suggests that he was, but there are also several troubling instances that suggest otherwise, such as his truck being found with the keys in the ignition and several things that he used daily being left inside it. Also, there's really no way of knowing whether or not Kerstetter was trying to say "help me" or "screw you" when he looked into the camera. Also, his family was desperate for him to return, adamant that he wouldn't be the type to be involved and stating that even if he was guilty, they would not think less of him. Also, the statute of limitations for this case expired more than 20 years ago, so if he's alive, it wouldn't make sense for him to stay hidden after so much time. I think he's dead, and probably has been for quite some time now.

Claudia Kirschhoch - The only thing that I feel strongly about is that she's probably dead, but what exactly happened to her is not easily explained. There is strong belief that she was kidnapped and possibly muredered by a bartender she met in Jamaica, but there's too much gray matter surrounding that theory to say that it definitely or most likely is what happened. Cases of people disappearing while on tropical vacations seem particularly notorious for not being open-and-shut cases, because most murderers who kill in this type of setting would much sooner dump a body in the vast expanse of water surroundng an island rather than bury it somewhere on land, because it's much less likely to be found that way. I think this is probably what happened, though I wouldn't focus solely on the bartender. There are all kinds of people in that type of environment who have all kinds of reasons (prostitution, slavery) for the kidnapping of American tourists.

Kristen Modafferi - Sadly, considering all of the effort put into this case to look at it from an angle of foul play, I actually don't think any was involved here. Kristen was well-known for having a desire to visit Lands End Beach. Dogs tracked her scent there, and someone who was interviewed stated that because of the treacherous, rocky terrain surrounding the area, it was not particularly uncommon for beachgoers in that area to suffer accidental deaths. Also, Jon Onuma, the guy who was suspected of having had something to do with her disappearance, was later cleared, and although he seems like a strange guy, there also didn't seem to be a lot of overly damning evidence against him, either.

Sabrina Aisenberg: Someone broke in and took her. Babies are taken maybe not frequently, but unfortunately often enough, just look at the "for the lost" blog.

Anthonette Cayedito: I have a hard time with people saying that "she would never open the door to a stranger". I taught my kids from a very young age to NEVER do that, yet, still they occasionally would even in their teens! That's how kids are, and she was pretty young. I do find the sighting where the girl left the note in the diner to be credible (or whatever the scenario was...). I think she was abducted and held by someone and is now either dead or too ashamed/brainwashed to contact anyone. Maybe the sister's story is correct, but she misheard and the person asked for "Uncle Joe" not said he was Uncle Joe.

Charles Horvath: I believe he was killed by one or more assailants in the early morning hours after befriending or being befriended by some of the people that were at the "wild party" that night at the campground in which he was staying. One of the campground residents (not believed to be involved in Charles' disappearance) interviewed in the segment mentioned how Charles was very friendly but seemed too naive or trustworthy in people he barely knew/just met.

Amy Bechtel: I believe that something happened to her while she was going on her run. It was an isolated area and the perfect setting for an opportunistic predator. I know that spouses are always the first to come under suspicion in these cases, but I always felt like people were trying a bit too hard to find things wrong with her husband. People express themselves in all kinds of ways in their private journals, and it didn't seem like he had written anything specifically negative about Amy. It seemed like they were reaching with that one.

As for Amy's bruise and comment that her husband could "get a little rough at times", I felt that at least in the segment, it seemed like Amy could have just been kidding around. Yeah, maybe it is in poor taste to kid around about that kind of thing, but people do. Besides that, if her brother thought she was serious at the time, why didn't he pursue the matter further? I don't know, it just feels like some of the stuff being used against the husband was taken out of context. I could be wrong though.


A.J. Breaux: I firmly believe that the men he was seen with in the red car were responsible for his disappearance (and likely death). I normally take witness sightings on UM with a grain of salt, as the claims are made by people who have never met the missing person before and are basing it on a picture they saw on a poster or the news. But the two people who saw A.J. had known him for a long time, once of them since childhood. In another thread about A.J. here it was discussed that perhaps A.J. had gotten himself into a gambling debt or some other trouble with these men, and I think that is a decent possibility. If this had been a random abduction for the sake of thrill killing, they would not have let A.J. get out and use the phone, and A.J. would have run for his life the first chance he got. Sadly, whatever the circumstances might be, I think A.J. was in a situation where he knew he was screwed and there was no point in trying to run.

Charles Horvath: I think that he was a rather sheltered and naive young guy on his own for the first time. He probably trusted the wrong person or misjudged a situation and met with foul play.

Amy Bradley: I'm very torn on this one. On the one hand, I would imagine that it isn't exactly easy to just fall overboard on a cruise liner. Don't the railings come up to the torso area? But I'm not sure that I buy the abduction/white slavery angle either. I think this likely could have been the act of one person, who assaulted and killed Amy and then threw her body to the sea. I do find it odd that Amy apparently returned to her family's room after partying much of the night, took a short nap and then went back out at 5am or whatever early morning hour it was. Most people who have been out drinking and clubbing till all hours go to bed and sleep till late morning. What, was she headed out for more dancing? I don't know, that part just always seemed off to me. Perhaps she had arranged to meet someone?

Jodi Huisentruit-abducted and killed by a fanatical stalker
Angela Hammond-abducted and killed by a serial killer
Kristi Krebs-psychotic break, died of exposure
Leah Roberts-killed by someone she met in the restaurant she was last seen in
Wil Hendrick-victim of a hate crime
Amy Bechtel-not sure
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman-abducted and killed, taken elsewhere for either sexual or scapegoat purposes (blame the other murders on them)
Amy Bradley-taken off the boat by someone with the band, not sure if she was alive or dead at the time
Jeremy Bright-killed by the neighborhood thugs
Tara Breckenridge-killed after someone rigged her car, not sure who
Katherine Korzilius-died in an accident with a neighborhood teen, either hit and run or fell off their vehicle. I don't buy that she could have rode on the suburban
Bryan Nisenfeld-50/50 on suicide or murder, but think it was about his ex, Josh
Cynthia Anderson-killed for knowing too much
Sabrina Aisenberg-non-family abduction
A.J. Breaux-no idea
Dottie Caylor-walkaway 80%, Jules killed her 20%
Anthonette Cayedito-kidnapped and held at least for a time by someone who was at least casually acquainted with the family
Leonard Dirickson-no idea
Hugh Harlin-honestly, this one is weird, I'll go with alien abduction :confused:
Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes-Floyd killed them both
John Cheek-dissociative fugue
Bonnie Haim-husband killed her
Charlotte Pollis-I used to be 100% sure her husband killed her, but
Doreen Marfeo-her husband killed her
Christi Jo Nichols-her husband killed her
Adam Hecht-no idea
Charles Horvath-no idea
Dale Kerstetter-I don't think he ever left the building, I think he ended up in a kiln or a furnace in the plant
Claudia Kirschhoch-killed by the bartender or another employee
Kristen Modafferi-no idea

I'll just do a few.

Amy Bradley - She could have been raped and killed by a cruise ship employee who decided to take advantage of her drunkenness. Cruise ships are somewhat infamous for not hiring the most reputable people and they're perfect havens for sexual predators.

Dottle Caylor - I think she just decided she had enough of her ******* husband and quietly decided to leave with help from friends. There are some spouses who are non-murdering jerks and he's probably one of them.

Cynthia Anderson - Killed because she possibly knew about the drug dealing at the law firm. I say possibly because she may have not even realized what was going on but someone thought she did and decided to get rid of her. The theory that she ran away from her repressive religious family is a plausible one, but if you believe her sister, she was planning to quit the law firm and go to bible college with her boyfriend---not the behavior of someone who is running away from their faith.

Angela Hammond - Victim of a possible serial killer. I don't think her boyfriend did it. He seemed to be genuinely in love with her and wanted to marry her.

Dale Kersetter - I think he met with foul play at the hands of the thief. Being an supposed "lesser" employee doesn't mean you suddenly turn criminal.

John Cheek - Probably went the way of Patricia Meehan and developed fugue amnesia; possibly dead.

Jeremy Bright - Possibly killed accidentally by a bunch of drunk or drugged out adults or older teens who got scared and hid the body.

LaurierCrimmajor said: Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes: The worst case scenario. Franklin Floyd checks all the boxes for the worst kind of psychopath. Definately in need of five minutes alone with Vic Mackey.

Love the Vic Mackey reference, LC. He would have no problem taking care of Floyd.

Amy Bechtel: I believe that something happened to her while she was going on her run. It was an isolated area and the perfect setting for an opportunistic predator. I know that spouses are always the first to come under suspicion in these cases, but I always felt like people were trying a bit too hard to find things wrong with her husband. People express themselves in all kinds of ways in their private journals, and it didn't seem like he had written anything specifically negative about Amy. It seemed like they were reaching with that one.

As for Amy's bruise and comment that her husband could "get a little rough at times", I felt that at least in the segment, it seemed like Amy could have just been kidding around. Yeah, maybe it is in poor taste to kid around about that kind of thing, but people do. Besides that, if her brother thought she was serious at the time, why didn't he pursue the matter further? I don't know, it just feels like some of the stuff being used against the husband was taken out of context. I could be wrong though.


Yeah, I never found the bruises all that suspicious. If so, I don't think I am the only husband who has left bruises on my wife - even in noticeable spots - after an intimate encounter - or two. Perfectly normal I thought.

Yeah, I never found the bruises all that suspicious. If so, I don't think I am the only husband who has left bruises on my wife - even in noticeable spots - after an intimate encounter - or two. Perfectly normal I thought.
Agreed. If she was smiling and talking about him liking it rough, I immediately assumed that meant in intimacy. If he'd beaten her up, I doubt she would have been smiling about it.

Even if you're not into rough intimacy, sometimes bruises just happen. Intimate encounters aren't always as magically graceful as they are in movies. Too much enthusiasm, an awkward move, a badly place nightstand all can result in innocent bruises in such situations.

Even if you're not into rough intimacy, sometimes bruises just happen. Intimate encounters aren't always as magically graceful as they are in movies. Too much enthusiasm, an awkward move, a badly place nightstand all can result in innocent bruises in such situations.

It doesn't even have to be an intimate encounter. A few weeks ago, I was rough housing with my best buddy and accidentally gave him a bruise on his arm. He then proceeded to tell anyone that asked about it that I was abusing him, complete with giving them a sad look and big fake pout. :p

Heh. Very true. I am not intimately involved with my coffee table and it has given me more than one bruise. I swear it jumps out to surprise me.

I bruise so easily. I constantly bump my hip into doorknobs, etc. So anyone would think I was abused with all the marks I have!

A few years ago my husband and I were rough housing around. Just goofing off. He landed on my leg and I ended up at the ER thinking it was broken. It was just badly bruised. Had to follow up with my family dr and I had a hard time convincing her it was an accident. I'm not sure she was ever 100% convinced. So yeah, bruising can happen unintentionally.

All this accidental romatic injury stuff reminds me of that zoosk dating site TV commercial with the couple in the bedroom. They run toward each other and accidentally head butt, she bonks her noggin on the footboard, he picks her up and hurts his back, they get all tangled up, knock over the lit candles, land in the chair, and flip over... not the most graceful lovers.

And lol at Necco's overly enthusiastic sexay coffee table. It's in luv :kiss:

Yeah, I never found the bruises all that suspicious. If so, I don't think I am the only husband who has left bruises on my wife - even in noticeable spots - after an intimate encounter - or two. Perfectly normal I thought.


Tell us more..:lol:

Tell us more..:lol:

I'll just say this, I'm 6'2" 275lbs. and wouldn't look out of place as an offensive lineman in the NFL. My wife is 5'5" maybe a normal 150-160lbs. Things happen. :D

People, please, stay on topic. If you're good, I'll give you 10 more cases to answer. :)

Name some more people!!!

Here's yet another 10 cases:

Oliver Munson
Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr.
Jean Moore
Gordon Page Jr.
Morgan Nick
Pamela Page
Star Palumbo
Curtis Pishon
Kristin Smart
Lilawattie Buerattan & Bhagwan "Moses" Lall

Oliver Munson - I think it's pretty clear that either Dennis Watson or one of his associates did him in. No one claimed that Oliver would voluntarily disappear, there were no reported sightings of him alive after his disappearance, and he was not the first person to end up missing or dead after being in the situation of having to testify against Dennis Watson.

Cecelia Newball & Rene Perez Jr. - This is a strange one that, without a body or credible sighting after nearly 20 years, I don't think we'll ever really get a good, solid answer to, but I don't think Alfredo had anything to do with it, nor do I believe that she left voluntarily. I think there is a third party at work here, quite likely the woman who called Cecilia about baby furniture for sale. What the motivation behind that might have been I really couldn't say, but I think it's the most likely theory.

Jean Moore - I really have no clue whatsoever on this one. I suppose that Al Henderson could be the one who knows all the answers, but there were witnesses who claimed to have seen the two of them together in Apple Valley, California either right before or after (I don't remember which) the time that Jean reportedly went missing. So it's hard to really know whether Al is lying, or whether other people (such as the California witnesses or casino security) are simply confused about what they saw (or didn't see) and the date and time. One less-than-encouraging thing Ive heard: I'm not definitely sure about this, but I thought that I heard that Al Henderson has since died, so if he is the one with all the answers, then there's probably no chance that we'll ever know what really happened.

Gordon Page Jr. - I think that after wandering off, he probably either lived among the homeless, or was taken by a person or facility who never found out who he actually was.

Morgan Nick - Abducted by the creepy guy at the ballpark, and most likely not alive after this much time.

Pam Page - Not really sure of much on this one, but her husband probably knew a lot more than he ever admitted.

Star Palumbo - Most likely ended up as a prostitute and/or hopeless drug addict who was either killed by a "customer," accidentally overdosed, or committed suicide due to her paranoia, though because a body hasn't been found, there's also a possibility that she could be wandering aimlessly or living from day to day in a state or drug-induced amnesia.

Curtis Pishon - Not sure, but I tend to lean towards a nervous breakdown.

Kristin Smart - Not sure, though I think she's probably dead at this point, and the male student who was following her the night she disappeared either is responsible for her disappearance, or knows something crucial about it.

Lila Buerattan & Moses Lall - Probably a kidnapping and murder that came of bad business dealings and not because of the birds themselves, because none of the most valuable birds were taken. I also think that Hari Gobin and Roland Eyoum (sp?) may have been in on it.

Oliver Munson: Taking into account how the stolen car chopshop was detail oriented and organized enough to provide fake ownership papers, I have little doubt that they would be meticulous in ridding themselves of any perceived liabilities on the witness stand. Given the tumultuous and very suspicious history of disappearing witnesses around Dennis Watson, it is not a stretch to deduce that foul play was involved in Munson’s disappearance. Now, the fact that his testimony wasn’t “make or break” for the trail one way or another is a tad hinky, and if there WERE to be a random act of violence (carjacking etc), Baltimore is at the top of my likely regions list. However that said, the fact that Munson WAS testifying in a felony trial provides a suspect and a motive far more substantive than some “unknown assailant”, if not directly Dennis Watson, someone who did not want Munson to detail the events of his transaction is the most likely outcome. Disposing of Munson could’ve been utilized as witness intimidation to others testifying in the case or to send a message to someone in the circle(per chance, the one who hooked Munson up with Watson in the first place).... IMO, Foul play.


Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr:I always look at the most likely suspect, if he starts to act out of sorts and against type, I start to lose faith in his credibility and target him as the probable assailant. If we’re working with patterns here, was it out of character for Alfredo to call Cecilia two hours into his shift or during his work hours at all? Delving further, why was he so intent on finding her while he was at work and intent on checking in on her repeatedly(if she was possibly with friends or his mothers as he opines), going as far as to leave work on the day she happened to vanish into thin air...if nothing was wrong in the first place(at least, to his knowledge at that juncture)? This feels like he’s jumping to some mighty quick conclusions without much cause. Now for me, I would hazard that he was potentially attempting to establish a timeline and atmosphere where he himself is worried for her wellbeing, potentially knowing evidence to the contrary, however he later contradicts this “worried husband” motif when dealing with PDs & friends etc.... Alfredo then comes home early to find not only her car parked where it shouldn’t be(he did however have keys), but a generic “Dear John” letter and the wedding and engagement rings? An 8 month pregnant woman gets up and walks away from her life at the drop of a hat on the same day her husband leaves work early and was the last one to see her alive? For me, we’re starting to see way too many irregularities. For him to then call her male friend, asking where she was with something of a quite aloof response and then, not to report her IMMEDIATELY missing (keep in mind his pregnant wife has disappeared, he HAD A FEELING and that by his accounts, there was no hint of a rift or dissention), this still doesn’t jive. Add on top of this, the second typed “Dear John” note, which cannot in any way be corroborated as being Cecilia’s and furthermore, establishes a vague alternative to her whereabouts, which attempt to dissuade suspicion away from Alfredo himself, just feels like too many coincidences all coinciding to be just that. The alternatives just don’t possess as much gusto as the husband being involved does....

As for the “unidentified woman” who called months prior to tell Cecilia of the existence of a videotape of Alfredo kissing another woman, I can only believe that it’s yet another suspicious reason to look at him. I’ll buy a husband not wanting to be married anymore nor wanting to shoulder the perceived burden of a child ahead of some unknown assailant and potential kidnapper looking to keep the unborn baby any day of the week. Now, the woman who was attempting to throw Alfredo a babyshower at work and invited her to pick out some furniture is suspicious, however the fact that her own husband didn’t know about it(or so he says) and his actions following her disappearance is just too suspect to me. I do not believe in plights for help or return from the spouse, which could be a wholly empty, null and void plee if she is in fact already deceased. IMO, there’s two people at work here, one to lead her away from the house, the other establishing an alibi.

Jean Moore: Casino security is pretty darn hardcore/severe, if this lady was inside the casino when the fiancee had said she was(albeit he'd changed his story, thus diluting his credibility), they'd have picked her up on surveillance cameras. For me then, if the fiancee's story doesn't match what the cameras show(just him in the shots), then his story becomes something of a fabrication and then he's lying about something.

All this talk about the fiancee giving up reward money for her return and his willingness to give up his fortune sounds quite noble....however if one knows there's no chance of a return, there's a great chance they'd be willing to offer any number of sums, for they no there's no chance of it ever being fulfilled. Hinky case, I always look towards the person who's story doesn't fit and Henderson’s just doesn’t jive.

Gordon Page Jr.: Sadly, I think this is a case of an unfortunate wandering off, having potentially succumbed to the elements.

Morgan Nick: Worst case scenario.

Pamela Page: Husband. Once again, simply too many inconsistencies in his story for me to buy.

Star Palumbo: Given all the innuendo involving drugs, potential prostitution and a “bad crowd” offers all sorts of promising leads, which probably would warrant the “best guess”. The mention of methamphetamines is quite intriguing, as her paranoid and delusional actions could be explained though the use and her relatively stark decline and eventual disappearance, as living among the margins of society would’ve placed her at far greater probability of foul play. There is also an argument which could be made that she could have begun suffering from a dissociative disorder that has caused her to detach herself from reality (ie persecution complex concerning the White House, changing identity and paranoia etc.). Given the area she was living in at the time, I think foul play is not a certainty, although her social climate makes it a reasonable route. The offered drug induced psychosis also seems like a sound alternative theory. IMO, she either OD’d and was disposed of to not draw attention to those she was with, was killed by a john or wandered off into the desert in a fugue. In any case, I lean towards deceased in Nevada, whether or not she disappeared approximately around the time she cut off contact with her family is up in the air, however a descent into a seedy underworld probably warrants the most sound and reasonable alternative.

Curtis Pishon: The fellow co-worker angle that seems to have popped up in recent years feels as though it has some weight behind it and somewhat dispels the theory of a walkaway. Suicide could be another viable theory given his deteriorating physical state, suggested depression and unknown future. However a person with MS wouldn’t simply walk away from their lives, it is too multi-faceted a disease to cope with “off the grind”, given that all of his personal information has never been used since. Therefore, it was either foul play or suicide. Given the more recent information, I lean towards the former.

Kristin Smart: Flores.

A.J. Breaux: Probably one of the bigger mysteries that UM presented. There are the eyewitnesses who knew Breaux, but for living in a small community, to all appearances Breaux had relatively few skeletons, other than his prior substance abuse issues. The letter sounds like a typical hoax, but we really don't know enough about him to determine why anyone would have had a motivation to harm him.

Anthonette Cayedito: I think the perpetrator was someone that was acquainted with the family, whether the abduction occurred the way the sister recalled or not. Besides that, I've always had the sense that information wasn't being entirely disclosed - that possibly her mother wasn't in the home at the time of Anthonette's disappearance. The sister's memories, five years on, can't be considered completely reliable, but the "Uncle Joe" ruse to get the child to open the door doesn't seem horribly farfetched either.

Leonard Dirickson: I've never understood why the cops went on about how unusual it was for Dirickson to have a second breakfast at a cafe - this is a pretty standard tradition for gossiping and transacting business in farming/ranching communities. The bigger question here is if Dirickson was acquainted with this guy prior to the meeting, why would either of them want to be seen in public by individuals who knew Dirickson? Either Dirickson was murdered by or intimidated by the man to flee the area. The sighting at the bar seemed questionable.

Amy Bechtel: I don't discount that there may have been problematic behaviors in the marriage, but that doesn't preclude the possibility that she was a victim of a random attack. All of her actions that day, up until when she left the vehicle, were consistent behavior for her. I've never been a big proponent of "This serial killer was in the region, so he probably did it,", nor do I think the husband can be entirely written off as a suspect. If she routinely exercised in the area, any number of individuals would have seen her and had the ability to stalk her.

Animal predation is a less likely possibility, but it does occur - the big problem here being that in an area of that size, even repeated grid searches may never turn up any trace of her.

Amy Bradley: It can happen, but it would have been fairly difficult for her to accidentally fall overboard. Trafficking occurs all over the world, but generally not in the manner that the 'white slavery' tales suggest. More likely, she was thrown overboard during the course of an attack.

Claudia Kirschhoch: If this was simple case of drowning, you'd expect to at least have found her t-shirt and radio on the beach. If the previous partying with Anthony Grant occurred on the resort property (I've never found any corroboration of this online) there was no reason for Kirschhoch's scent to be anywhere in his vehicle, especially in the trunk.

I'm probably in a minority with some of these, but oh well here goes :)

Jodi Huisentruit -- I can see a "Jill Dando" (person obsessed with her as a TV personality) case here. When I lived in the UK Jill Dando--ironically the host of a true-crime show--was killed by a viewer who got obsessed with her after seeing her picture in a magazine. Took them years to catch him. Huisentruit was a cute, seemingly-available blonde in an area which didn't have a lot of glamour.

Angela Hammond -- Killed by her boyfriend Tim. UM conveniently neglected to mention that she was pregnant by him. He was 18, she was 20. His story is frankly too fantastic to believe....bootlegger turn in the middle of town destroying his car's transmission? "I didn't need to use the phone anyway"? Come on.

Kristi Krebs -- Just as the segment suggests, stuck in woods. Likely wandered away and died of exposure--the area is very remote.

Leah Roberts -- Possibly staged her disappearance, but also could have met with foul play and that person junked her car. The car might have looked "lived in" because that's where Leah was sleeping at rest stops etc. on her trip...which is also where she could have met with foul play a la Dexter Stefonek.

Wil Hendrick -- I get the sense that this was not a Kurt Sova-type case. I think Sova died by sheer misadventure but Hendrick died at someone's hands.

Amy Bechtel -- I don't remember this one enough. I can remember her husband being smarmy about things. That could mean he's guilty...or it could mean he's innocent and just being a jerk. (Of course he could be a guilty jerk too...)

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman -- This is a tough one. I can see more than one potential possibility. If drug dealers were involved as looks possible, I think they were killed elsewhere. Can't see them lasting long on their own so I don't think they engineered their own disappearance.

Amy Bradley -- A LOT of people die on cruise ships. Ships by their nature aren't 100% safe. Combine Amy being very drunk, an open balcony, and a family that wasn't paying attention, and you've got a recipe for disaster. And I wouldn't put it past her to climb off the balcony herself...I've seen drunks do less stupid stuff than that.

Jeremy Bright -- When I was a kid, your digital watch was like an iPod today...teenage kids never left theirs at home. His watch and wallet were found at his stepdad's home. He didn't leave there willingly IMHO. I think the stepdad was involved. I've talked about this at length elsewhere and I'd be happy to expand on it.

Tara Breckenridge -- I'm thinking Wayne Becker was involved, but I also think he had to have an accomplice. Maybe that accomplice picked her up from the side of the road.

I won't do all of these, just the ones I remember well. Maybe these will be even more controversial... :)

Katherine Korzilius -- Fell off back of van. What are the odds that an unknown, unseen, undetected child molester is just waiting in 100+ degree heat in a vacant lot in a high-end residential neighborhood for a kid to appear...then, when said kid does appear, to do nothing with the kid other than knock her on the head and run away? No. Her injuries were consistent with being hit by a vehicle...or falling from a vehicle.

Bryan Nisenfeld -- Accident/suicide. It's impossible to know either way, really. But the idea of someone coming to throw him off the jetty doesn't seem right to me.

Cynthia Anderson -- Ooooh. The biggie. One day I'm going to start a whole thread on this case. I think she engineered her own disappearance but my reasons for believing so are pretty long.

A.J. Breaux -- Nervous breakdown, potentially caused by relapse. An old AA friend of mine once said to me, "I'm always one drink away from the grave." Maybe he relapsed for reasons known only to himself and couldn't face his mistake.

Dottie Caylor -- The Salad King did it !!! :)

Anthonette Cayedito -- Abducted by someone she knew. I think there was more to this case than UM let on but I can't remember what that was. One person I know thinks that her mom actually sold Anthonette to a childless couple, which is too outrageous for me to believe. I'm siding with the cops' explanation here.

Leonard Dirickson -- Man, this is a tough one too. In pre-Google Maps days, how did the potential killer even find the guy's house? What I'm thinking happened is that Dirickson might have mentioned to a friend of his that he needed money and was thinking about selling a horse. That friend told another friend, and eventually bad dude hears about it and decides to swindle Dirickson. Dirickson didn't fall for it, and bad dude ended up offing him.

Less controversy here I think.

Oliver Munson -- Too many people involved with Dennis Watson who were a lot more streetwise than Oliver turned up dead. Watson is the obvious suspect.

Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr. -- If ever a case screamed out "the husband did it", it's this one. This case was covered by another crime show and one of the lead detectives said "we are 99.9% certain the husband is guilty, we just lack the smoking gun." Perez Sr. didn't help himself by fabricating a Dear John letter (the police are sure of that part). Also, Ms. Newball was pregnant, and in an overwhelming number of homicides of pregnant women the prospective father is the perp (see Angela Hammond above).

Jean Moore -- Al Henderson's story is false as proven by the security cameras, so he's already starting with one strike against him. Then he changed up his story: two strikes. I think the cops were just never able to throw strike three past him.

Gordon Page Jr. -- One of the saddest stories ever shown on UM. Gordie was hard done by so often, it makes you feel there might not be justice on this earth. I think that he wanted to hitchhike to get back to see his dad, as he was seen by a motorist the night he disappeared. But I think that anyone who pulled over might have been scared off by Gordie's confused state. I have a feeling he might have given up, tried to find his way back to the home, and died in the woods.

Morgan Nick -- What separates Morgan's case from so many of the other child abduction cases featured on UM is that the other children she was with were immediately able to give a description of the suspect, and of how the abduction occurred. That suggests to me something very bad did happen. I'm surprised the perp was not caught. The manner of the abduction suggests that he either had done it before or was ready to do it again.

Pamela Page -- Her husband already admitted part of her Dear John letter was BS, which isn't a good sign (see Cecilia Newball above). Scant else about the rest of his story checks out. I have to wonder whether he tried to file an insurance claim on the stolen cash from the video store, and if he did, whether that claim was successful. He would certainly have had enough chutzpah to try that stunt.

One that I missed from last time:

Claudia Kirschhoch: Some years ago when I was last on here I was decrying the uselessness of the Jamaican police about another case. They seem to miss a whole lot of stuff that American police would be able to link...for example, the inconsistencies in Anthony Grant's stories. I'd love to know what happened to Grant after the situation died down.

Katherine Korzilius -- Fell off back of van. What are the odds that an unknown, unseen, undetected child molester is just waiting in 100+ degree heat in a vacant lot in a high-end residential neighborhood for a kid to appear...then, when said kid does appear, to do nothing with the kid other than knock her on the head and run away? No. Her injuries were consistent with being hit by a vehicle...or falling from a vehicle.

I agree. Either she was hanging onto the truck and fell off or another car hit her and ran off.

I'll do the ones The Third Man did just because I know all of these well enough to form a solid opinion.

Katherine Korzilius -- Fell off the van, sustained injuries.

Bryan Nisenfeld -- Suicide.

Cynthia Anderson -- Abducted at work. For what reason specifically, I don't know.

A.J. Breaux -- Drinking relapse, nervous breakdown and/or possible suicide. I think he was alive for a while, but probably isn't now.

Dottie Caylor -- Engineered her own disappearance.

Anthonette Cayedito -- Someone close to or in that family knows exactly what happened and is responsible for her abduction.

Leonard Dirickson -- This is the hardest one. The only plausible scenario I can imagine is Leonard being indebted to someone he might have borrowed from in a desperate attempt to stay afloat financially. I think that whole story about going to look at a stud horse was Leonard's way of not arousing Jared's suspicion. I don't feel like that Amarillo sighting is credible.

Oliver Munson -- Dennis Watson.

Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr. -- Husband.

Gordon Page Jr. -- Very likely ended up as a vagrant or street person. There's a chance he could still be alive, I think.

Morgan Nick -- Likely deceased. :(

Pamela Page -- Definitely husband.

Shall I add more or keep going with the existing cases?

I think that Leonard Dirickson might have been gay and took off with his lover. Am I crazy to believe that? I think it's a likely scenario!

I think that Leonard Dirickson might have been gay and took off with his lover. Am I crazy to believe that? I think it's a likely scenario!

Then he's the most masculine gay farmer I've ever seen (;

I have never heard of that being a theory. A little far fetched to be honest. He shows up for breakfast with a guy who looked like a member of ZZ Top, then is seen at a bar (credible or not) and there haven't been any sightings of him since? In my opinion there is always a reason why there aren't sightings of a person after a while and you're not going to like the reason, its probably because they are no longer with us.

If your theory is correct then Leonard sure went about taking off and starting a new life in a strange way with eyewitnesses present

I think that Leonard Dirickson might have been gay and took off with his lover. Am I crazy to believe that? I think it's a likely scenario!

I don't think it's impossible, but I don't think it's likely, either.

The guy who came to his house could be his lover, but Leonard Dirickson pretended to not know him infront of his son.

But it's just a theory, or wishful thinking on my part. I hope he wasn't victim to foul play.

This is just my IMHO on a few of the cases .


Katherine Korzilius - Fell off the car.I think both parents seemed to be in denial and couldn't accept the fact that their daughter's death was an accident.

Morgan Nick-Sadly dead.


Anthonette Cayedito -I think it was someone in the knew the family that knew her .I don't think she is alive after all this time .She was probably killed not long after .I don't buy the eye witness sighting .Witness are often wrong and ,I think this is one.

Pamela Page -The husband did it.I doubt there will be a resoultion to this case.I think this Mr.Page is deacesed ,and I would be very surprised if it was a random stranger killer/abduction.


Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr-Not sure about this one .The husband didn't seem like a prize to me .I don't believe she walked away with another man.I also think it could be a possibility that the woman who called could have something to do with her disappearance.Maybe a disgruntled ex-girlfriend perhaps ? Or a complete stanger ?


Amy Bradley - I think she fell off the ship.I don't believe she was abducted into any slavery.

Jodi Huisentruit -Killed by someone who saw her on tv and,became obessed with her.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman -This one is tough one to call. There are many possibilities that could have happened to both girls.One thing is certain ,I believe both are dead .

Jeremy Bright - He was most likely killed by the Steinoffs and maybe Johnny either saw it ,or had something to do with it .

Oh wow, I just posted about some of these, but I'll throw my two cents in here as well.

Jodi Huisentruit = I believe what the UM segment implied which was she was kidnapped by an overly obsessed fan and murdered.

Angela Hammond = I believe the boyfriend's story and that he had nothing to do with it. I believe Angela was the victim of a murderer, possibly a serial killer.

Kristi Krebs = She disappeared of her own free will (although if she was having a mental breakdown, can we really call it that?). All evidence at the scene suggests a similar scenario to her first car crash. It is most likely that she met with foul play while experiencing another psychotic episode, but part of me hopes that at the very least she was picked up by the authorities and placed in the psychiatric care of someone that can treat her..

Leah Roberts = I've never seen the segment, but reading up on it, in some ways, its similar to Kristi Krebs. Based on what I read, I wouldn't be surprised if she went on her spiritual journey that she spoke of and completely staged her disappearance. What happened to her after that is pure speculation, but she could have just joined up with a group of like minded individuals in a commune or something.

Wil Hendrick = Well his remains were found, and the investigators tend to lean towards him being murdered, and I agree.

Amy Bechtel = Even though her husband behaved strangely and suspiciously, the fact that she disappeared while jogging near the woods just brings up too many similarities to serial rapists/killers and where they prey. Dale Wayne Eaton (the Killer of "Lil Miss") was named a suspect, and quite honestly, that wouldn't surprise me if it was him. No matter what though, I do believe Amy is dead.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman = It is very peculiar that Ashley's parents were killed and left in the fire and there was no sign of the two girls. Normally when that happens, it usually means those that disappeared did so because they are also the perpetrators. Maybe Lauria & Ashley decided to go become Thelma & Louise, but I have severe doubts that two 16 year olds could have pulled this off and disappeared so expertly on their own. Also, the fact that Lauria's purse was left at the scene with money in it leads me to believe that they were abducted by the killers. My imagination can run wild from there, but I believe they are dead after being abducted & raped, as horrible as that sounds.

Amy Bradley = Sightings are unsubstantiated assumptions about the person's identity, so I won't take the Naval officer's encounter with the person he assumed was Amy to be correct. I want to believe the tragic, yet far less sinister, outcome for Amy which is that she fell overboard during the cruise.

Jeremy Bright = Teenagers do dumb things. Its a fact of life unfortunately. I believe that Jeremy got together with a few friends and they were doing some stuff that they weren't supposed to be doing. Jeremy either OD'd, got shot, or in some other way died due to something stupid that was going on among his friends. Other parties may have been involved (as the UM segment suggests) but I believe that the teens made sort of a pact to keep their lips zipped on what happened to Jeremy.

Tara Breckenridge = I literally just posted about her in the main thread. Basically, I tend to believe that she was stalked by an obsessed patron (not necessarily the one that wrote her the creepy love letters), taken against her will, raped, and then killed. I would not be one big surprised if the boyfriend did it as I thought he acted very suspiciously, but I'd say that 1st scenario is more likely.

Oliver Munson = I do believe he was killed in connection to having to testify against Watson. Its just too big of a coincidence to me that he would disappear just as this is about to go down.

Cecilia Newball & Reno Perez Jr. = Well in cases like this, it is always easy to look at the husband, and I think that is a fair conclusion here. Once again, his behavior was very mysterious.

Jean Moore = Normally I would say that this is an open and shut case of "The Husband/Boyfriend did it" but given the age of the person telling the story with contradictions in it, I am willing to believe that he is just confused and mixing up his facts. He is still suspect numero uno and if it came out that he did it, I wouldn't be shocked, but no matter what, I think its safe to say that she probably met with foul play.

Gordon Page Jr. = This is a very sad case for me personally since I have a brother who is like Gordon (he never ran away or anything though, so don't worry). The best I can hope for is that he wandered off, got picked up by the authorities, and he is now being cared for in a proper facility. Unfortunately, his condition also made him easy pray and even somewhat helpless to the elements as well.

Morgan Nick = A sad case of abduction (I believe the reports about "The Creepy guy") and is most likely dead now.

Pam Page = Four Words: The Husband Did it!. No doubt in my mind about this one.

Star Palumbo = I believe she was a victim of the life she was leading. Drugs & Prostitution are good ways to endanger your life, and I believe the combo ultimately killed her. Either she OD'd on drugs, got killed by a client she was serving, or was killed in connection to money tied to one of those aspects of her life.

Curtis Pishon = Tough call here, but it does sound self inflicted. I believe he set his car on fire and then killed himself as a way of coping with his recent misfortunes.

Kristin Smart = She clearly met with foul play and is most likely dead as a result, but who was it? I think the connection to April Gregory was flimsy at best and I don't think there is any tie there. At the very least, I believe Paul Flores knows a lot more than he admitted to, and I do believe he had something to do with her disappearance.

Lila Buerattan & Moses Lall = Whatever happened, I think it is clear that Gobin knows something about it. I tend to lean more towards the thought that they both fell victim to foul play possibly because of something having to do with their business and some of the deals they made.

A.J. Breaux = This one is perplexing. There are so many different directions this story could be pulled in that its crazy to think about. I tend to lean more towards him having a relapse, and the subsequent shame caused him to run off. Who would have abducted him and why? There didn't seem to be much basis for that theory.

Anthonette Cayedito = I believe that the 911 was completely legitimate and that it was her that made the frightened phone call before being interrupted. She sounded legitimately scared and not like a typical kiddie crank caller at all. The sighting at the restaurant? Not so much. Could be her. Might not be. We'll probably never know. There are so many weird circumstances surrounding this case though. Like why did the abductors only take Anthonette when there were other girls in the house? What were the girls doing walking around the house so late at night and answering the door? Where was the mother then? I believe that she was probably sold into sex slavery and is most likely dead now.

Lewis Dirickson = Murdered due to something relation to his business.

How bout adam hecht?

For me, I see him as still alive but in another city under probably a new name. The encounter with tony at the restaurant leads me to believe adam was better connected in the underworld then most people realize. If he truely was some suburban tiger, i am sure he would leave the homeless scene after the first sign of danger, regardless of how small.

How bout adam hecht?

For me, I see him as still alive but in another city under probably a new name. The encounter with tony at the restaurant leads me to believe adam was better connected in the underworld then most people realize. If he truely was some suburban tiger, i am sure he would leave the homeless scene after the first sign of danger, regardless of how small.

he's on page 2 of this thread

here's another 10 for you to answer:

Lisa Bishop
Robert Borton
Elizabeth Campbell
Justin Burgwinkel
Jacqueline Castaneda
Gordon Collins
Yves Emmanuel & Laurent Hernas
Laurence Harding Jr.
Ray Hickenbotham
Judith Hymes

Lisa Bishop- Sadly, dead. I wondered about the ship sinking, but since it was sighted a number of times on top of Florian, I also don't doubt that he was shady and possibly abducted Lisa for sexual reasons. She was a very attractive young woman and I think that was part of why he invited her alone.
Robert Borton- I love this case and I know the family believes what they're saying. But I think he's probably dead and was killed in Vietnam. The segment is still one of my favorites because of the suspense and the random guy trying to contact the sister. I want to believe it, but can't.
Elizabeth Campbell- I think she was abducted and probably murdered a short time afterwards. I don't know if I believe the "forced to walk the streets" thing because she was never seen on the streets by anyone.
Justin Burgwinkel- Tough call! If he wasn't done in he's really, really good at hiding. The Chad Langford one to me sounds really, really shady and this one is weird, too, but I can't say definitively that I think he was murdered.
Jacqueline Castaneda- Abducted by the creepy woman at the SWAT meet and kept as her biological child. I think she's still alive and hopefully will learn her identity one day. She does have that birthmark that could help on top of DNA.
Gordon Collins- I want to believe he survived, but I think the guy in Mexico was just a dead ringer. Too much time has passed and too many coincidental near misses of finding the ringer. However, it is odd that Gordon and the other woman were never found and the others were.
Yves Emmanuel & Laurent Hernas- I haven't seen this one.
Laurence Harding Jr.- The teen girls probably did give him away to the woman at the train station which is really, really F'd up! Obviously they didn't want to get in trouble, but they could have left him at the hospital with a note or something instead of tormenting a family.
Ray Hickenbotham-Don't recall this one
Judith Hymes- Died during the illegal abortion. Even if medically astute, if you have an allergic reaction or serious injury you're in hot water. I believe the letter about her being thrown in the bay.

Here is the full list of everyone I've jotted so far. If you want to guess ALL of them, you can:

Jodi Huisentruit
Angela Hammond
Kristi Krebs
Leah Roberts
Wil Hendrick
Amy Bechtel
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman
Amy Bradley
Jeremy Bright
Tara Breckenridge
Katherine Korzilius
Bryan Nisenfeld
Cynthia Anderson
Sabrina Aisenberg
A.J. Breaux
Dottie Caylor
Anthonette Cayedito
Leonard Dirickson
Hugh Harlin
Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes
John Cheek
Bonnie Haim
Charlotte Pollis
Doreen Marfeo
Christi Jo Nichols
Adam Hecht
Charles Horvath
Dale Kerstetter
Claudia Kirschhoch
Kristen Modafferi
Oliver Munson
Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr.
Jean Moore
Gordon Page Jr.
Morgan Nick
Pamela Page
Star Palumbo
Curtis Pishon
Kristin Smart
Lilawattie Buerattan & Bhagwan "Moses" Lall
Lisa Bishop
Robert Borton
Elizabeth Campbell
Justin Burgwinkel
Jacqueline Castaneda
Gordon Collins
Yves Emmanuel & Laurent Hernas
Laurence Harding Jr.
Ray Hickenbotham
Judith Hymes

Lisa Bishop:
A young woman travelling by boat from Miami to Haiti virtually alone is scary.

The ocean is a dangerous place and there’s a chance the “old barge” could’ve had mechanical failures etc and sunk. The fact that no distress calls were lodged and poor weather wasn’t present does seem to make this a little unlikely, but ships sink and freak accidents happen on the sea.

Guerilla/pirate groups are pretty pervasive around these parts, this could be a fine lead. If we are under the assumption that the Freedon DIDN’T simply sink, a complete hijacking of the boat for parts and material is probably the best bet, with all aboard being casualties. If you then factor in the possibility of this being a smuggling run into Central America, we are delving into some VERY shady and combustible personalities, which could easily explode in some form of violence whether it be through an interception of the cargo, a double-cross via refusal of payment etc, this could’ve gone very badly. Seeing opportunity, the ship itself would then be towed and salvaged for parts in order to gain more profit.

Now, if this Florian was seen alive after the ship supposedly vanished, sexual exploitation unfortunately becomes a possibility, as a young white woman in Central America could definitely fetch a large profit in the underground sex slave/forced prostitution market, which while disgusting, isn’t out of the realm of possibilites.

Robert Borton:
Truth be told, I believe that grieving families will grasp at any and all straws to simply find solace and hope against hope that their lost loved ones are still alive or in other instances often featured on UM, did not commit suicide but were rather murdered etc. I don't blame them whatsoever; however I'm often tenative to place too much credence in many of these cases that seem to defy odds and logic...

WITH THAT SAID, there have been oh so many UM episodes where there feels like there's more to the story to simply discount them and especially when I hear that the government and military are involved, I'm far more open to suspicion and conspiracy theories...maybe I've read too many James Ellroy novels, but I never take the words of the CIA and other likeminded gov't agencies as gospel(far from it) and am always interested in a deeper look.

I really don't know what to make out of this particular case, but I don't write it off completely as just a grieving family grasping at straws. This one isn't as iron-clad as some of the UM episodes where suicides have been uncovered to be murders after all(correlating the family's response and desperation for further desparation) but I don't think this is too far-fetched when you read novels about CIA spooks etc

Elizabeth Campbell:
First instinct, her boyfriend has an argument with her, her boyfriend is the last to have seen or been in contact with her as she’s just about to begin a new chapter in her life....the boyfriend’s involved.

IMO, at the start the older male eyewitness who saw an Asian male and female at the gas station/convenience store seems a bit thin to me. Given that the male he believes he saw with her was also Asian and that Elizabeth’s mother who showed him the picture is Korean, I think the eyewitness may have too easily connected the dots: A Korean lady comes in looking for her daughter and he recollects the last time he saw something hinky involving an Asian customer. For me, it doesn’t scream reliable witness.

But then you hear about the second eye witness, who also claims to have seen Elizabeth with an Asian man holding her wrist and things start to sound a little more familiar and add a little credence to the first eye witness’s account. Independent corroboration is a biggie for me, and this is a huge break to the theory that she may have been alive after she disappeared.

I would caution here that Elizabeth’s mixed heritage could’ve posed a difficulty in witnesses identifying her, as I have an inkling that she could’ve passed for a Latin American given her complexion and features and could’ve more easily caused her to blend into a crowd in Texas.

The forced prostitution angle could play here, especially if her abductor was utilizing psychological warfare to break down her will and was using ice cream as a treat/gift in attempt to win her favour despite what would’ve been occurring in unison. I’ve read of manipulation tactics used in these cases and buying her sweets is something that could make her appreciate her captor(I know, it sounds messsed!).

In the end, I still REALLY don’t like that the boyfriend was the last to legitimately see her, last to talk to her and by all accounts, admits to having an argument with her prior to her starting Texas A&M. If that seems more likely than abduction into forced prostitution(which it does to me), I’d recommend taking a harder run at the boyfriend, his alibi etc.

That said, two different clerks providing strikingly similar descriptions does give me a moment of pause, however I see a more common situation unfolding here.

Justin Burgwinkel:
Many of these military-related UM segments have an air of conspiracy that I often find plausible, however this one appears to be more rooted in mental illness, delusions of grandeur, a paranoid/persecutory complex and created a fantasy life that spun out of control.

Jacqueline Castaneda:
Kidnapped/Babynapped. Probably living a life completely unaware of this after EITHER A) being purchased by a couple unable to have children of their own through a black market broker or B) kept by this strange woman at the fair who was unable to have children, potentially suffering from mental illness. While there are insidious alternative avenues that could involve a homicide, I think this is a case of somebody wanting a baby.

Gordon Collins:
Lost at sea. Too often, when parents go looking for a loved one with an understandably elevated level of false hope, their grief is exploited, are told what they want to hear and in attempting to grease palms to garner information are sent on a wild goose chase by people simply looking to manipulate a situation for financial gain.

Yves Emmanuel & Laurent Hernas:
Foul play stemming from the innuendo of what their catamaran may have been used for.

Laurence Harding Jr.:
Stolen by the teen girls and raised elsewhere.

Ray Hickenbotham:
Crazy case with countless possibilities which are all quite titilating and conspiracy theory laden... use your imagination.

Judith Hymes:
Died due to complications/malpractice stemming from a back alley abortion, at which point those involved discarded her body in order to divert attention from the doctor(George Hodjou) who performed the abortion.

I dare someone to answer ALL of them :lol:

here's another 10 for you to answer:

Lisa Bishop
Robert Borton
Elizabeth Campbell
Justin Burgwinkel
Jacqueline Castaneda
Gordon Collins
Yves Emmanuel & Laurent Hernas
Laurence Harding Jr.
Ray Hickenbotham
Judith Hymes

Lisa Bishop - I think she was probably kidnapped for purposes of sex slavery and later murdered. I would consider Florian Bourch the prime suspect. One thing I've also always believed about this case is that there was something shady from the get-go about the cruise itself. I think that criminal activity on the part of Bourch and his associates was probably the basis for the whole trip in the first place.

Robert Borton - This is one of the strangest and most controversial cases. It's hard to say for sure, but I will say this: unlike some other posters who've stated that they think the whole thing is a publicity-seeking farce, I do not have any doubts about the credibility of the family. Even if it turns out that Curt really was killed in Vietnam, I think that the family has every reason in the world to be suspicious, given some of the things that would take place as the years went by (especially the Social Security number incident). Also, in any case where there's a government/military cover-up, I think suspicion is probably well-warranted, because there have been a lot of UM segments where government/military activity has been called into question, and it doesn't take a genius to figure out that at least some such allegations are more than likely true.

Elizabeth Campbell - I tend to believe that she was forced into prostitution, but even if that's not true, I would have to say with near certainty, given the time of night and that she was a young woman out alone, that she was randomly abducted in the middle of the night. I don't think her boyfriend had anything to do with it.

Justin Burgwinkel - Again, really hard to know for sure because of the military angle, but I think he was either recruited for a top secret (and possibly illegal) project, and had to basically detach himself from himself because of it, or he was murdered because of concern that he might blow the whistle on whatever was going on.

Jacqueline Castaneda - Definitely abducted by someone at the flea market. Personally, even though I don't believe that Olivia (Jacqueline's mother) had anything to do with it, I can't honestly say that I have a great deal of respect for her, either. This could well be the most easily preventable case of child abduction ever profiled on UM. As far as the situation with the outhouse goes, I say it simply doesn't matter whether it's cramped and dirty inside or not. You simply DO NOT leave a baby by itself the way she did. Plus, Olivia's husband and mother were both at the flea market with her. Why couldn't she just have left the baby with one of them before using the outhouse?

Gordon Collins - It's possible that the Mexican drifter wasn't him, but I think it's a strong possibility that shouldn't be ruled out.

Yves Emmanuel & Laurent Hernas - I think it's more likely that they were hijacked and later murdered, especially given the weird situation where the car was pulled over, but I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility that they made off with the boat, either. Witnesses who saw them on the boat with the mysterious third passenger claimed that they didn't seem to be under duress.

Lawrence Harding Jr. - I think that after the one teenage girl disappeared into the restroom, the older lady from Magnolia, Arkansas did what she felt was the right thing to do, and that he probably ended being adopted and had a normal upbringing. The saddest part about this one is that I believe he probably is still alive, but because he was just an infant when he was taken, there's almost no chance nowadays that someone would be able to correctly identify him as Lawrence Harding Jr., and even if someone was able to do so, I think he would probably be reluctant to pursue his past, because he'd be in his late 60s now and probably well-settled in whatever life he's made for himself.

Ray Hickingbotham - Again, there's probably some high-stakes corruption involved here. Whether he was for or against it there's really no way of knowing.

Judith Hyams - Most people think she died having the abortion, and I think that probably is what happened, but sometimes I also wonder if she disappeared because of the embarrassment of her predicament, and does the author of the letter stating that she was dead know anything crucial about the case that they didn't talk about in the letter?

Yves Emmanuel Pain and Laurent Hernas/the Antigua: http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=2482&dat=19911228&id=n6FbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=y1ENAAAAIBAJ&pg=5138,4235588 (go to upper right hand corner for the article)

I lean towards the Antigua being lost at sea, but this one could go in any direction. Hurricane Grace occurred along the eastern coast in late October 1991 (a well known casualty of this storm, combined into a northeaster, being the Andrea Gail) , around the same time that Pain and Hernas would have been on their voyage. There's a possibility that the catamaran was caught up in it en route to the Caribbean.

There is the police officer's claims that he pulled the pair over, with a backseat passenger who spoke in a foreign language to the two men. Even if they were complicit in a plan to steal the catamaran (and there's no credible evidence to support that), I can't comprehend why they'd be running around in a vehicle.

According to which source you find more credible (the above article or UM), the two were going to take an ocean route to either St. Martin or Guadeloupe. If the sightings on the intracoastal waterway were accurate, and that's up for grabs, there's no legitimate reason for their failure to notify their employers of their change of route.

Lisa Bishop: The Freedon was likely lost at sea; hijacking is a lesser possibility. Bourch was considering postponing the departure, which would seemingly be at odds with some premeditated plan of abducting Bishop, but Bishop told him that she would be unable to go at a later date. There's plenty of speculation about Bourch and Phillipe, but no real evidence other than the claims of Phillipe's girlfriend. The mundane reality may be that Bourch had legitimate concerns about the seaworthiness of the Freedon in that particular weather, but went ahead against his better judgment.

Elizabeth Campbell: I think she was abducted and killed after she left the 7-11 to use the payphone outside (she had called her boyfriend from the store's phone; a call to her family would have been long distance, so she decided to use the pay phone). The later sightings were either of another woman or were fabrications. The clerk saw a Central Texas college student drop Campbell off. While it could have been a random perpetrator who saw Campbell outside of the store and took advantage of an opportunity, it doesn't appear that the police really looked into the student. Campbell was carrying several items besides the purse: a jacket, a work smock with her name tag, her college books and papers -- if this was a stranger abduction from the immediate vicinity, you'd have expected to find some of her items in the parking lot or the roadway.

Ray Hickenbotham: Given the era and his background as a codebreaker, Hickenbotham may have been involved in secretive activities, but I think that his deliberately running off from his job and family, or possibly a suicide or accidental death was more likely the reason for his AWOL status.

Jodi Huisentruit -Sadly I think she's probably dead by now. I suspect she was abducted and murdered by some perverted stalker or maybe even by someone she knew who had an unhealthy obsession with her. This case really saddened and touched me. I really hope this case is solved and the creep responsible has to answer for his crimes and faces punishment to the full extent of the law

Angela Hammond -Sadly, I think the creep who abducted her probably murdered her shortly after her disappearance. I always found this case heart-wrenching -she was so close to being rescued and, if this had happened in modern times, the boyfriend would probably have had a cell phone and police could have been there within a short period of time. Again, I hope this pervert is one day apprehended and justice finally done

Kristi Krebs -If this is the case I'm thinking of, anything could have happened. It's very possible she could still be alive somewhere but it's equally possible that her confused mental state could have lead her to have had an accident somewhere or met with some other unfortunate fate

Leah Roberts -Well, obviously, I hope she did go on some sort of spiritual journey and that accounts for her absence. I think it's quite possible she had an accident and got disoriented and confused and may have wondered off of her own accord. The state that her car was found in and the fact that she left so much money there tends to make me give more credence to this theory. If that happened, I'm not optimistic for her prospects for survival -I think more likely from natural causes than anything else

That having been said, I seem to remember on the Disappeared episode which profiled her, it said that she was seen talking to two men and there was some question over whether one of them may have been involved but I can't be altogether certain that I am not confusing this with another case. If it is the right case, there is a likelihood that one of them may been involved with something or perhaps she picked up a hitchhiker. Anything's possible I guess but I tend to believe the confused/disoriented scenario more

Wil Hendrick -Don't remember this case

Amy Bechtel -Name rings a bell but I can't remember anything about this one

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman -Had to look this up. The names didn't ring a bell but, once I read about the case, I remember this being profiled on UM. This was a very strange one and I don't really know what to think. More likely than not, something very sinister happened to them

Amy Bradley -I believe she's probably dead. She might have accidentally fallen overboard from the cruise or something might have happened to her on the ship and then she was thrown overboard or something like that but I don't believe she's still alive now

Jeremy Bright -Don't remember this case

Tara Breckenridge -I think the boyfriend was creepy in this case and I think it's probably 50/50 whether he was involved because he did seem like a dubious character. That having been said, I seem to recall that she worked in a high-risk profession and it's equally likely something may have happened to her because of that as well

Antoinette Cayedito -That was a frightening one -I think if I remember this, I watched it late at night and there were chills going up and down my spine. I think out of all the missing cases on UM, this is probably one of the few where the victim might still be alive in the same way as Jaycee Lee Dugard or Elizabeth Smart or the Fritzl abductees. I believe the phone call allegedly from her was genuine and I believe that the encounter at the restaurant could very well have been her (although I think there is less of a chance of this being authentic than the phone call). I think chances are that she has either been brainwashed, she has been frightened into submission or that perhaps she even ran away from her captors but has been too brainwashed/ashamed/frightened or whatever to make contact with her family (perhaps she is convinced that everything is her fault or that she won't be believed or that her family may be in further danger if she makes contact with them).

I agree with the consensus that whoever abducted her was probably an associate or friend of the family in some way.

And I agree that there are aspects of this case that are strange. Why were the girls answering the door in the middle of the night? Why did the knocking at the door prompt the girls to go and answer while there was no sign of the mother (maybe the mother's bedroom was further away and she couldn't hear anything?) Why didn't the sister wake up the mother when she saw her sister being taken?

And in relation to what I've written immediately above. I get that kids don't always obey their parents about answering the door to strangers but there's something very strange about what happened that night.

Really, this was one of the scariest cases -if not the scariest case- ever on UM. It frightens me just writing about it.

Amy Bechtel: However with that said, I really don’t like it when loved ones refuse polygraphs, going against the most common drive of recusing themselves as potential suspects to allow law enforcement to forge onward with their investigation. It’s completely in his rights, but comes off as difficult and thus, raises an eyebrow or two.

He did the right thing. Go read the studies on polygraphs -- they are highly inaccurate. This is why they are not admissable in court in almost every state.

Re:Jodie Huisentruit Again we don't have a great deal of information on this abduction. It's strange that she should oversleep on the morning in question,though I did read somewhere that although unusual it had happened before with colleagues at the television station where she worked. Of course if the perpetrator was waiting outside for her this would have set him on edge and maybe when she did come out of her apartment he hit her a little harder than he had intended. In this regard may I mention Anthony Zappa who is a good suspect as he abducted a girl Anne Sluti in a similar manner in 2001. Another good suspect is recently divorced John VanSice who named his boat Jodi suggesting a possible obsession with her and was the last person to see her alive.Had Jodi broken off their friendship that previous evening?There's also the matter of the palm print which may have been left on her vehicle(I'm not sure exactly where this was found and how good quality it was,as it might rule out Zappa,or did he have an accomplice)?

As for the Jill Dando analogy,Barry George's conviction for the murder was overturned after eight years. Unlikely as it may seem there is talk of a Serbian hitman involved in that case-it's an interesting read if you have time to spare.Another British case involving Joanne Yeats shows that mistakes can easily be made. Statistically murders are not the complicated matters that authors like to make out,and from what I've been reading there's a fair share of sensationalizing in the Huisentruit case with different personalities wishing to sell their books. If the motive was personal this would tend to favour the involvement of VanSice,if a random abduction and killing then Zappa is more likely your man.

Jodi Huisentruit -- I think it's a pretty simple case. She was murdered by an obsessed fan. He has just been lucky thus far in avoiding capture. The Police said they did a thorough check of ex boyfriends and all were cleared.

Angela Hammond -- The story from the boyfriend has some holes, but it's hard to pin it on him. Sometimes unlikely things do happen. We know there was at least one serial killer operating in that area at the time, so her death could be one of those 1 in a million random abductions.

Kristi Krebs -- Without a doubt in my mind Kristi was suffering from Bi-Polar type I disorder, possibly with psychotic symptoms. I know Bi-polar people and her symptoms fit classic mania to a "t." People who are manic can stay up for days, have boundless energy, often have a sense of inflated self-worth (feel they are God), sometimes have delusions (people are in love with them), often go on wild spending sprees, etc. Read Patty Duke's account of her own bouts with it. The biggest tragedy with this story is that even the medical doctors in the hospital did not recognize it as a mental illness. It took them 4 times to even diagnose her with "psychotic symptoms due to trauma" which is not an official diagnosis. Her energy and mood swings are indicative of classic mania. No doubt about it.

Amy Bechtel -- Hard to say. The husband was somewhat suspicious and I don't hold it against him that he refused a polygraph (highly inaccurate instruments). I also do not put much stock in his journals. I think all of us at times have had "dark thoughts" but it doesn't mean we want to kill anyone. But a husband is almost always the culprit in a case like this, so I can't rule him out completely. Dale Eaton was a serial killer working in the area at the time and she could have been one of his victims. There's no evidence to say either way.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman -- Probably abducted from the scene, raped and murdered. I find it suspicious they weren't killed in the fire, but I find it unlikely they have been on the run this long without turning up.

Amy Bradley -- Lots of info about this case since UM aired. Natalie Holloway's mother did a segment on this case in recent years. I recommend watching it if you haven't.

Cynthia Anderson -- We now know that the painting on the wall outside her office had nothing to do with the case. A poster on these very forums came forward and said her boyfriend posted that message for her and she hadn't known all these years that it was connected to UM. I believe she contacted the Police about it. In any case, the best theory I have seen is that one of her law office's clients killed her (a major drug dealer who thought she knew too much). However, I don't know why he would care so much about her, nor do I know how she would even have any info on him (attorneys are careful about confidentiality).

Charlotte Pollis -- Murdered by her husband. No doubt about it.

Christi Jo Nichols -- Murdered by her husband, no doubt about this one either.

Judith Hymes -- She's still alive and living in Omaha.

"Angela Hammond -- The story from the boyfriend has some holes, but it's hard to pin it on him. Sometimes unlikely things do happen. We know there was at least one serial killer operating in that area at the time, so her death could be one of those 1 in a million random abductions."

I know there's a very long thread on this, but my intuition is that the story seems too well put-together (movie-like would be my way of describing it) to be true. There are some people in the world that have the ability to lie very well and be/look very convincing while doing it: I think Rob Shafer is one of those people.

I think something went down a little earlier in the night in question between Rob and Angela that led to Angela dying.

"Angela Hammond -- The story from the boyfriend has some holes, but it's hard to pin it on him. Sometimes unlikely things do happen. We know there was at least one serial killer operating in that area at the time, so her death could be one of those 1 in a million random abductions."

I know there's a very long thread on this, but my intuition is that the story seems too well put-together (movie-like would be my way of describing it) to be true. There are some people in the world that have the ability to lie very well and be/look very convincing while doing it: I think Rob Shafer is one of those people.

I think something went down a little earlier in the night in question between Rob and Angela that led to Angela dying.

Didn't he report the crime that night? Presumably there would have been evidence of the phone call as well as his car breaking down. Also it would have been awfully fast for him to hide a body so successfully.

Jodi Huisentruit- An obsessed fan probably knew she had to leave her apartment early for the morning broadcasts. So he waited in the van for her to come out and when she did he made his move. That's why her belongings were scattered in the parking lot. I think she was probably held captive for a time, then sadly murdered.
Angela Hammond- The man with the decal on his truck probably assaulted and murdered her after not too long, even though she was pregnant : (
Kristi Krebs- Nervous breakdown that probably put her in an even more vulnerable position. I think foul play could have occurred because of her wandering around and hitchhiking.
Leah Roberts- I think that foul play caught up to her. I believe she would have been found if she'd just wandered off. She may have crashed then taken her cat and walked off, but I fear someone caught up to her.
Wil Hendrick- I think he was killed by the guys at the party. Liquor and being alone may have made him more vulnerable. It could have been a hate crime or just a plain argument continued from the party.
Amy Bechtel- I think someone (possibly the Lil Miss Killer, as is a theory) kidnapped and murdered her. No way did she run off.
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman- Sadly abducted and murdered by whoever killed the Freemans.
Amy Bradley- I think she may have been thrown overboard after being accosted. Even if drinking, I don't think she would have gone near the rail if deathly afraid of it. When I drink, I still remember my fears. Also, she was apparently not drinking around the time she'd gotten up to go smoke or whatnot so I don't think she was fooling around near the edge after most of the liquor was out of her system.
Jeremy Bright- Killed by the thugs, probably in the shooting incident because of the blood on the suspect's shirt.
Tara Breckenridge- I actually don't I believe it's Wayne Hecker. He may have come off as arrogant, but I think someone else may have gotten to her. I don't believe he had enough time to take her and hide her so she's never been found to this day.

Judith Hymes -- She's still alive and living in Omaha.

really?

I was watching the Angela Hammond episode on, how shall I put this, a popular site for video uploads. In the second part of the segment, I noticed that someone named "Lester Manio" made a comment about 2 months ago that he had seen her in Cuba. There was no further information. Given the circumstances of her disappearance, I'm sure that Lester was having a go, but what an odd remark to make.

I was watching the Angela Hammond episode on, how shall I put this, a popular site for video uploads. In the second part of the segment, I noticed that someone named "Lester Manio" made a comment about 2 months ago that he had seen her in Cuba. There was no further information. Given the circumstances of her disappearance, I'm sure that Lester was having a go, but what an odd remark to make.

Probably another internet idiot making stupid comments. I seriously think she has been deceased since her abduction and her remains somewhere in the Mid West.

The letter that Robert Stack received said Judy Hyams died. And Robert Stack never lies.

Pollis clearly died at the hands of the husband. Didn't someone come on this board and try to "defend" him by saying just because he smokes crack a lot doesn't mean he murdered her? That has to be one of the all time great bad-defenses!!

The two girls killed in the fire seem to have been killed by the suspect on the segment. The news articles back that up.

As to the others, i got nothing.

Oh except for the fact that Jule Caylor is a dead ringer for the banjo player in deliverance.

"Pollis clearly died at the hands of the husband. Didn't someone come on this board and try to "defend" him by saying just because he smokes crack a lot doesn't mean he murdered her? That has to be one of the all time great bad-defenses!!"

I think it was his lawyer who posted. He was determined to sway the opinions of all the Paul Pollis skeptics on here. mission accomplished :rolleyes:

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman-I would to say that they would kidnaped and killed by serial killer Jeremy Brian Jones

Gimme more names!!!!!

How about Audrey Moate? I think that the scary backwoods guy did it for sure. And I think it was a sex crime, unlike what he told his kids about his common law wife doing it. His boot at the crime scene and the scene at the car just says it all. His story about it being in the house is suchhhhhhhh BS.

Just speculation here of course.

Jodi Huisentruit: Abducted outside her apartment by someone who had probably been watching her for at least a little while in order to get an idea of her routine. The why of that is anyone's guess, but I think it was it was unfortunately just a random nutjob who developed an obsession with her.

Angela Hammond: Abducted by the man who accosted her at the pay phone. I don't think she lived for very long afterward. :(

Kristi Krebs: I actually think there is a chance Kristi Krebs might be alive today living as a transient or homeless person. If she isn't still alive, I think it is more likely she became the victim of an accident, died of exposure, or a scenario closer to that than running into a proverbial bad guy.

Leah Roberts: Leah Roberts was seen with a man at a restaurant bar and left with him just before she disappeared. I think he might be responsible for her abduction. I think they either both drove up to Mt Baker together or he was at least aware that this was her ultimate destination, and piloted her vehicle up there himself. I think the blankets-in-the-windows thing is a red herring and that if he is in fact responsible, he staged that entire scene.

Amy Bechtel: Random nutjob looking for a victim of opportunity.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman: I have never been able to figure this one out and develop a well-formed opinion.

Amy Bradley: I'm not sure. To be honest, I'm not so uncertain that she really did fall overboard, despite her reported fear of the water.

Jeremy Bright: I'm not sure about that shooting-in-the-water story. I'm more apt to believe the party story with the open bottle of beer. I kind of envision a scenario in which those non-"pillar of society" spike the alcohol with a substance--pills, whatever--as a joke on the naive kid, and it went too far. But that's just an idea.

Tara Breckenridge: I don't think Wayne Hecker is responsible. Not particularly sure who is. It seems to me it's more likely someone at that club is responsible as opposed to a stranger.

Katherine Korzilius: She fell off the van. I have always felt that.

Bryan Nisenfeld: I lean towards suicide. He was extremely despondent in the days leading up to his disappearance. I think he may have committed suicide by jumping into the water. If parts of his body washed ashore shortly after his disappearance, say, the next month or so, I think I could accept foul play more readily. But I think they were sighted around six months afterward. That is plenty of time for his poor body to buttress against obstructions, be fed on by marine animals, and generally decompose. (The only thing that kind of hangs me up is that the water in that region would have had to have been rather cold for some time, and cold water tends to preserve bodies.)

Cynthia Anderson: I think she was simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Through no fault of her own, I think she wound up mixed up in all that nonsense going on at the law office she worked at. I think she was either taken as a hostage of some sort to blackmail one of those attornies into doing something, or killed because it was assumed she "knew too much." I don't know. I am nearly 100% convinced she wouldn't just take off, though.

A.J. Breaux: That poor guy got mixed up with some bad dudes. I don't doubt that at all. I think the sightings with the red car are credible.

Dottie Caylor: I think she took off on her own. I don't think Jule Caylor is responsible.

Anthonette Cayedito: I think someone in that family knows a lot. I don't necessarily think Penny Cayedito orchestrated the event, but I think someone very close to her might have. I do think the phone call to the police was legitimate and that WAS Anthonette on the tape. I don't think the girl at the diner was Anthonette, but good Lord, who was she?! :eek:

Leonard Dirickson: I'm still pondering this one. It seems to me there's a greater likelihood that he willfully disappeared than that someone killed him. We were presented a reason why he might have wanted to disappear, but not a reason why someone might have wanted to murder him.

Hugh Harlin: Something bad happened to Hugh, I think. I don't think he killed Diane, either.

Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes: I don't even want to begin imagining the possibilities on this one, but whatever it is, it is probably really, really not good.

John Cheek: I think John Cheek had a mental break. I think the truck driver sighting is credible. He could still be alive, I think.

Bonnie Haim: Michael Haim.

Charlotte Pollis: Paul Pollis.

Doreen Marfeo: DEFINITELY Stephen Marfeo.

Christi Jo Nichols: DEFINITELY Mark Nichols.

Adam Hecht: I'm 70% sold on the idea of foul play (that may or may not necessarily have been perpetrated by Tony) and 30% on the notion that he simply up and left.

Charles Horvath: I think poor Charles ran into a bad dude. He was so friendly and gregarious and might have been perceived as an easy mark.

Dale Kerstetter: I don't think he was in on anything at the plant. I think he was a victim.

Oliver Munson: Dennis Watson.

Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr.: I know I'm in the minority but I think Alfredo Newball might know more than he's telling. I do not, however, think he was responsible.

Jean Moore: Al Henderson. I perceive him much like I do Judy Groezinger: a bad liar and totally guilty.

Gordon Page Jr.: There is a possibility he could still be alive, I think. There is also a possibility he became a victim of a crime some time after he disappeared. Some badly-intentioned people might have seen him as an easy target. :(

Pamela Page: Rob Page.

Star Palumbo: Bad dude.

Lisa Bishop: Bad dude that might not have necessarily been Florian.

Justin Burgwinkel: He deserted on his own accord. May or may not have been involved in criminal activity.

Jacqueline Castaneda: Definitely could still be alive and unaware she was abducted as an infant.

Judith Hymes: See letter to the Coral Gables Police Department.

How about Audrey Moate? I think that the scary backwoods guy did it for sure. And I think it was a sex crime, unlike what he told his kids about his common law wife doing it. His boot at the crime scene and the scene at the car just says it all. His story about it being in the house is suchhhhhhhh BS.

Yes, I tend to agree with that.

Gimme more names!!!!!

I need to but can't seem to find 10 more good ones

Here's 10 more for you:

Blair Adams
Tim Molnar
Terri McClure
Mike Riemer and Diana Robertson
Mike O'Mara
Chad Langford
Steve Sandlin
Jay Given
Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg
JonBenet Ramsey

Here's 10 more for you:

Blair Adams
Tim Molnar
Terri McClure
Mike Riemer and Diana Robertson
Mike O'Mara
Chad Langford
Steve Sandlin
Jay Given
Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg
JonBenet Ramsey

Blair Adams - Based on the way he was found, and that his money and other valuables were scattered all over the place, I think it's a pretty good bet that his actual death was a murder. However, I couldn't even begin to imagine who did it or why, and I'm strongly in agreement with the theory that he was probably traveling aimlessly in a confused and delusional state, and I doubt very much that whoever killed him was actually chasing him all over the U.S. and Canada.

Tim Molnar - I'm really not too sure about this one, because, aside from the fact that he was known to become moody and depressed, there's a frustrating lack of reasoning for why he took off in the first place, but I think that the following theory could be a possibility: he ran away from home to "find himself" and met somebody along the way that killed him. The circumstances of how and where he was eventually found seem a little bizarre for suicide.

Terri McClure - I honestly have no clue, and out of all of the cases presented on UM where there's question of whether someone under suspicion is innocent or guilty, this one is definitely near the top of my list of ones where it's impossible to lean more in one direction. From a pure personality standpoint, Tim McClure seems like an unlikely murder suspect, because from what we know from the segment, he was very close with his mother and seems to be about the last person that might want to see her dead (and I thought he seemed pretty sincere in his interview), but there are also some very troublesome aspects to his story, most notably his covering pretty much the entire area but somehow ending up missing the spot where his mother was found, the story about needing to find the purse, and his decision to have his mother's credit card cancelled almost immediately after her death. He said that he felt a strong sense of foreboding (something like a little voice inside your head saying "don't go in that parking lot"). Such freakish coincidences are not outright impossible, but I must admit I have a lot of difficulty believing it in this case. So when I think about these circumstances, I'm inclined to believe that he probably killed his mother, but when I think about Tim himself and his easygoing personality and the admiration and respect he apparently had for his mother, then the possibility of him killing her seems harder to swallow.

Mike Riemer and Diana Robertson - A very shady case for sure, but if I had to bet on it, I think that Mike probably killed her, though there is one major circumstance (that I'll touch on in a little bit) that might weaken that scenario a bit. They were known to have a very volatile relationship, and Diana's mother who was interviewed believed that he was very capable of such a thing. Even though his remains were found recently, that doesn't do much to alter my opinion in this case, because they were only FOUND recently; for all anyone knows, they could have been there for years, and that huge expanse of dense wilderness is certainly just the type of place where remains (or a lot of other things, for that matter) could go unnoticed for years, or even forever. Anyway, I think that he and Diana probably got into a nasty argument that ultimately ended with him killing her, after which he disappeared into the woods and either killed himself or died as a result of running out of survival apparatus. However, the one thing that I prefaced earlier that might throw a wrench into that scenario is, why would he leave his small daughter all alone in a scary place like that, and if he was planning to murder Diana, why wouldn't he have dropped his daughter with Diana's mother instead of bringing her along to witness something so unspeakably tragic? That whole part of it makes no sense at all.

Mike O'Mara - Despite some strong insistences to the contrary, I'm more inclined to believe that he took his own life. Though he seemed happy when he left to buy the frozen yogurt, one person who discussed this case at great length on another thread about this case believes that he was either hiding a deep depression or may have encountered something during that short trip out that may have him to become incurably despondent, and suggested that he staged the suicide to look like a murder so that his wife would be able to get a life insurance payout that would have been denied if it was able to be proven that Mike O'Mara did in fact kill himself.

Chad Langford - Hard to say for sure, especially since it has a military angle, but in some ways it's a lot like the Justin Burgwinkel case in that Chad was more moody, tempermental, and secretive in the weeks before his death than he was known to be in general, likely because of his involvement in some shady military business, and I think that he was either seen as a risk and murdered, or the pressure just became too much and he committed suicide, which he unfortunately may have felt was his only choice, because when you're in the military and you have difficulty handling high-pressure situations, you can't just go up to your superior and say "I've had it. I want out." It unfortunately does not work that way in the military.

Steve Sandlin - I tend to go with the generally-accepted theory that he became privy to some information concerning illegal activity and was murdered by one or more of the people involved in it. I do not believe that he committed suicide.

Jay Given - Because of the political angle, this is a frustratingly multi-layered case that probably won't ever be fully explained, but I think it's nothing less than right on that John Cardona is considered the prime suspect. Some of the more suspicious aspects of this case overwhelmingly point to him, such as being one of only about 3 or 4 people with access to that evidence drawer, and the only one among them whose activity couldn't be accounted for during the time it was broken in to, and the fact that he owned a gun that was the same type as the one used in the murder, and if I remember correctly from the segment, this particular type of gun is supposed to be extremely rare (fewer than 100 known to be in circulation worldwide).

Jay Cook & Tanya Van Cuylenborg - They met someone in the midst of their trip who may have had the hots for Tanya. I think this person murdered Jay to get him out of the picture and then did likewise with Tanya after she refused to let him get anywhere with her. Interestingly, something I did find out recently that only makes this case more confusing: the person who sent the morbid greeting cards to the families was finally identified (though not publicly) as a long-incarcerated mental patient who is not considered a suspect in the murders and most likely never met the victims at all.

JonBenet Ramsey - This case has been so badly bungled almost every step of the way and not only will we probably never know the real truth, but between bogus confessions by attention-seeking nobodys and suspicion about the parents being involved, but never enough concrete evidence to charge them with anything, I really wouldn't even have a good idea of where to start looking. About the only thing I feel strongly about is that there's something not quite right about the circumstances leading up to the discovery of her body. How her parents went all out looking in all sorts of places only to discover that their daughter was on the basement floor can only mean one of two things: either that they're incredibly, incredibly stupid if they honestly and sincerely didn't think to check the basement, or, more likely, they knew that's where she was all the time and did everything they could to try to distract attention away from the basement.

Blair Adams: One of my favorite ones; most of it happened in my hometown. I've probably changed my mind more times on this case than on any other. I think Blair was having distress unrelated to what ultimately happened to him. I think it was a sex crime perpetrated by people Blair may have just met or who were perfect strangers to him. Male-on-male rape isn't discussed a lot, but it does definitely happen and more frequently than many may think.

Tim Molnar: Too little info in the UM segment for me to form a good opinion, personally. So as of now, no idea.

Terri McClure: I'm 95% sure Tim McClure was involved.

Mike Riemer and Diana Robertson: In the minority on this one. I think Mike and Diana were killed by a third party, possibly someone they knew.

Mike O'Mara: I think he was murdered.

Chad Langford: That kid got mixed up with some bad, bad soldiers on post. There are thugs in the military just like there are thugs in the civilian world. I don't know if he was in on the PX robbery plot or he was in fact doing some kind of informant-type work, but I think he was killed by some associates. I never thought suicide was a good theory here.

Steve Sandlin: He was murdered.

Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg: I think that's the work of some serial type of individual who preyed on couples. I think he may have been transient and might have committed similar crimes across the U.S. and/or Canada.

JonBenet Ramsey: The police screwed this one up from the start. I don't at all think her parents were responsible. I think it might have been someone close to the family or John Ramsey on a professional level.

Blair Adams- I think he was displaying tendencies of mental breakdown with the paranoia and such and that the murderer tragically had nothing to do with him and targeted him in his vulnerability.

Tim Molnar-Sounds like he drove off due to his own volition and somebody killed him when he reached the other state. Probably another tragic, random crime.

Terri McClure- Tim seems sincere, but I find this "Holy Spirit" thing and purse thing to be so odd. Also to kill her for $5k seems just silly. I'm on the fence.

Mike Riemer and Diana Robertson- For years I thought Mike did it. The abuse, the signs of a crime of passion, the daughter being dropped off at the store. But how would his remains have only have JUST been found if he offed himself in the woods? I'm not 100% convinced just yet, but I think this may have been a third party who decided to bury Mike to make it seem like he did it. I don't think it was the guy who killed the other couples because it doesn't fit the MO at all, but it may have been a sick third party. One thing that keeps me from latching to this theory too strongly is dropping the daughter off and the daughter not having (apparently) seen anything but that her mother was in the trees. I would think she would have been upset if she saw her mother in pain, no matter how young. Would a random killer have told her to go play while he killed her mother with so many stab wounds? And would he have enough empathy to spare a young child?

Mike O'Mara- I thought this one was a murder.

Chad Langford- It seems like a hell of a way to kill oneself and I don't buy it. Seems like he was in the wrong crowd here.

Steve Sandlin- Totally murdered. I don't buy that a guy so invested in his job would off himself even if disappointed in his dream job. "Oh, I just tried it for a little while but I'm bummed so that's it"-No, I don't believe it.

Jay Given- Murdered probably due to the political angle.

Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg- I think somebody saw them and because this was also a sex crime, I think he was latched onto Tanya and wanted to get Jay out of the way. So he probably got them to give him a ride than overpowered them. Was Tanya's cause of death explained, because I don't remember them explicitly saying it? Jay also, it sounded like they just said "obviously murdered." I think this guy had been in prison before and was a very violent offender who was also a sadistic sex offender. He may have had some sort of weapon or was just physically stronger than Jay and Tanya together and was able to overpower them and then tie them up with the zip-ties. To this day, I can't look at zip ties without thinking of this case. It chills my blood.

JonBenet Ramsey- I've been wondering for years. I think it's so suspicious that the parents didn't check the basement, but also the police bungled it. On the fence.

"Was Tanya's cause of death explained, because I don't remember them explicitly saying it?"

The murderer shot her in the head after raping her.

"Was Tanya's cause of death explained, because I don't remember them explicitly saying it?"

The murderer shot her in the head after raping her.

Then that totally explains how they were overpowered :( He kept them at gunpoint the whole time.

Blair Adams:
Too many hallmarks and red flags lead me towards mental illness over foul play. Now, that isn’t to rule out that some random act of violence could’ve been precipitated by his erratic, somewhat muddled behavior, which may have placed him in a highly dangerous situation, leaving him vulnerable to exploitation. That very well may have been the case, however I think the root of this case is Blair’s emotional state and well being.

Tim Molnar:
The fact that he nearly emptied out his entire bank account feels like he intentionally dropped off the grid. The details surrounding his family life came across as rather vague to me and given the eventual success of his siblings and his own high level scholastic pursuits, I wouldn’t rule out that he simply succumbed to the pressure of high standards and chose a life that was on a completely different path.

Terri McClure:
Damn, this sure is a wild one! The son is the last one to see her, is painted as something of a black sheep and is steeped in suspicious behavior. The way he searched for her is suspect(avoiding driving through the ONE casino his mother’s body is actually in), calling to cancel the credit card prior to her body’s discovery(major screw-up on his part) and the specific search for her purse, when it was eventually discovered to be the only item missing from her person. Tim going to UM feels like subterfuge to divert suspicion away from himself, which I think didn’t do him any favors. His alibi is that he gambled alone for 2 hours, which isn’t airtight by any stretch and the fact that his whereabouts are basically unsubstantiated, paints a bullseye on him IMO. The son strikes me as a dumb hustler type and while all of these little inconsistencies taken alone simply seems a tad weird, taken altogether makes for a strong case for the son’s involvement. From here, I think this is the work of a sloppy and careless amateur. Failing the polygraph screams that he was arrogantly confident enough that he could dupe it, much like his other actions and is another addition to the growing list of hinky things, that make him a great suspect. The motive of the son trying to start a new life with his wife by ridding his mother and getting a nice chunk of money for a nest egg sits well with me.

Mike Riemer and Diana Robertson:
Given that they’ve found Mike Riemer’s remains in the forest all these years later, the possibility that they were both killed has more legs, especially when you factor in the previous double murder of the couple close to Mike’s traps. That said, I wouldn’t completely rule out that Riemer killed Diana and then dropped off their daughter at the grocery store before he went back to take his own life after a domestic altercation (given their history of domestic violence and the note left in the car fits in here). That plays here quite well IMO. However, family annihilators don’t often consider leaving the child alive to be a viable option (as their mental state is often clouded with delusions and a belief that the child will be better off in heaven etc.), but is not impossible. Now, given that both Mike and Diana have been declared dead in the forest, the sock connection to the first double homicide, is VERY interesting. It is awfully risky for a serial killer to leave a living, breathing witness such as the daughter for they are quite risk adverse, although it is not beyond the realm of possibility, especially if he kills for a specific purpose that precludes children. A serial killer is a definite and terrifying possibility, as is a murder-suicide. I’m 50/50 here.


Mike O'Mara:
Mob hit? Possible. Random act? Possible too. No evidence of a struggle is weird, but so is walking out into the middle of a field, leaving of the gas pump during a frozen yogurt run. I never buy the “not in their nature” defense against suicides, no matter how well you know an individual, nobody can truly gauge what is going on in someone else’s head and what circumstances may have been involved, however it doesn’t add up well enough to convince me it was a suicide. Very quizzical and quite a mystery to me.

Chad Langford:
Attitude changes are never a good sign. What sticks out to me is that as an “undercover MP”, if he were legitimately receiving threats and phone calls, he and his handlers would have immediately known his cover was blown, whatever the case he was working. That would’ve placed him on a high level of alert and anything he would’ve been working on would’ve either gone into motion(thus arrests) or been cut off. Those are the most viable leads to begin with. BUT, once it comes to light that CID states he was never working undercover for them at all, suicide becomes a far more belivable outcome. Psychological autopsies aren’t set in stone by any means, but they aren’t complete rubbish either and are a valuable asset in gaining a better insight into a persons actions when they may not be totally understandable. Couple that with CID’s discovery that he may or may not have been the ringleader in a botched robbery and recently experienced a broken relationship and I think there’s alot of smoke around his personal life that could’ve been looking for a way out. The final calls to close friends is another sign towards suicide. There isn’t alot of hard evidence to give much credence to a secret plot or espionage or anything too concrete to buy a conspiracy. IMO, he probably committed suicide and the family is understandabily so, incapable of accepting it.

Steve Sandlin:
I’m more likely to buy this case an accident or possible foul play over suicide than most questionable cases due to the fact that he was a very green rookie, which wouldn’t place him in too much danger within law enforcement or on the inside of some criminal conspiracy, but it isn’t impossible. Could he have stumbled upon police involvement in local pot operations for example? Maybe, but how much can you really gauge in 8 weeks? Busting a major pot dealer and getting death threats is a good lead, especially if a police officer was greenlit by local dealers to send a message. Furthermore, if local PD were getting a cut and a new kid was getting too big for their britches, I think he could’ve been viewed as a liability, but that is a pretty thin line to go on without much more to back it up. The gun being two feet away from his body is a little hinky, but if he was playing with the gun(and his mother doesn’t deny that he would’ve ever done such a thing), it is foreseeable that he it may have gone off in innocent bungled accident. Grieving families will often grasp at anything to give explanation and comfort after a loss and buying into a conspiracy helps out. I’m 50% on this being a tragic accident of a young, raw rookie and split 25% on either suicide or foul play.


Jay Cook and Tanya Van Cuylenborg:
Strikes me as a case where a violent sex offender asked for a ride and took advantage of two young, unsuspecting people.

JonBenet Ramsey:
I’ve studied this case at great length in school. The information in the ransom note that asked for a price eerily similar to what Mr. Ramsey had gotten in year-end bonus raises some flags. An incredible amount of crucial forensic and investigative information and evidence was missed and this entire case was completely bungled from jumpstreet, which makes it all the more difficult to solve, since so many puzzle pieces aren’t availible. Sadly, I think that so much of the crime scene and initial investigation was flawed and focused on the Ramseys(make no mistake, they SHOULD'VE been looked at hard, but only up to a certain point) by unqualified investigators in this realm of homicide, that this will never be solved unless somebody’s gets popped in the correctional system database. I’ve read a few interesting takes on John Mark Karr and while I approach them with a great deal of incredulity, they’re quite interesting. Given the number of burgleries in the area and the number of people the Ramseys’ had in their home on the weeks leading up to the murder, there are a plethora of suspects and I think it’s a needle in a haystack scenario now, but it didn’t have to be this way. John Douglas has written some very enlightening stuff about this case and while he’s a bit of a blowhard at times, he knows his stuff.

Blair AdamsMike Riemer and Diana Robertson:
Given that they’ve found Mike Riemer’s remains in the forest all these years later, the possibility that they were both killed has more legs, especially when you factor in the previous double murder of the couple close to Mike’s traps. That said, I wouldn’t completely rule out that Riemer killed Diana and then dropped off their daughter at the grocery store before he went back to take his own life after a domestic altercation (given their history of domestic violence and the note left in the car fits in here). That plays here quite well IMO. However, family annihilators don’t often consider leaving the child alive to be a viable option (as their mental state is often clouded with delusions and a belief that the child will be better off in heaven etc.), but is not impossible. Now, given that both Mike and Diana have been declared dead in the forest, the sock connection to the first double homicide, is VERY interesting. It is awfully risky for a serial killer to leave a living, breathing witness such as the daughter for they are quite risk adverse, although it is not beyond the realm of possibility, especially if he kills for a specific purpose that precludes children. A serial killer is a definite and terrifying possibility, as is a murder-suicide. I’m 50/50 here.

I think it's time that we as a board vindicate Mike Riemer. His skull was found with no signs of trauma so unless he went back and stabbed himself in the heart or poisoned himself, he was obviously murdered in the same way Diana was by an unidentified killer. Dropping Crystal off at the store was only consistent with the notion of Mike being the murderer if, in his confused state of mind at the time, he didn't realize dropping her off with family would be safer. Perhaps the lack of certainty about Mike's involvement due to dropping her off in a public place would have prevented a stronger manhunt but now that we know Mike died, I see no reason why he wouldn't have dropped her off with a relative. Why risk a little girl's life as well if you are intent on killing yourself in a place where your body will surely be discovered?

Moreover, Diana's murder was a crime of passion which would initially indicate uxoricide but if that is the case, Mike's frame of mind would not have lasted after dropping Crystal off. You don't just spontaneously murder someone then go for a long drive and come back and maintain the state of mind to commit suicide. The charged emotions would be gone by then. And again, if Mike was intent on suicide in an open place, it wouldn't matter if he dropped Crystal off with family anyway. Mike would have had to expect his body would be discovered with proof of suicide, so why drop her off at a store to attempt to hide that? The store scenario would be somewhat more consistent with the possibility of Mike fleeing, but even then, I don't really think so. To me it's more the fact that even murderers typically do not want to murder children.

It's possible that Mike knew the area very well and did purposely go back to kill himself somewhere where his body wouldn't be discovered but even if that was the case, why wouldn't he shoot himself? Did he really think to himself "Well, my body won't be found for years and by then I will only be bones so when they find ONLY my skull with no head trauma they will think I didn't do it." That is far too hard to believe. There is no reason why he wouldn't have shot himself. As it stands now, all evidence is consistent with Mike having been murdered as well. This is not a Hollywood movie, but real life.

Like Mike's dad said, they got him first.

there's alot here, i will answer some of the ones that i know most about or have followed most.

Jodi Huisentruit
Angela Hammond
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman

1) didnt follow Huisentruit as much, BUT my theory is fairly simple. i think she was likely stalked by some crazed fan, abducted, likely raped and then killed. :(
2) Followed this case ALOT, still the same opinion. i think she also was likely killed, likely by the dirty man talked about, kidnapped, raped and is dead and if i had to guess who the guy is, he's an out of towner serial killer who saw a sick opportunity and her body is either in his town or closer to him, like maybe his yard.
3) Bible and Freeman were likely abducted, raped and killed. the who is the tough one to answer.


Katherine Korzilius
Anthonette Cayedito

1) this is where there are differences with almost everyone. my theory is a guy tried to kidnap her, she fought back, the kidnapper pushed her, accidently killed her and layed her body on the street, dont think it was her falling off the car.
2) i think Cayedito was kidnapped by someone her family knows, is today dead, dont know if the girl in the restaurant was her, it's possible, but i think today she's dead.



Blair Adams
JonBenet Ramsey
1) Adams is a compelling case, i think he likely was running from something and just happened to be killed by some guy for some unknown reason. dont know if the killer was what scared him or if this was a random guy attacking a random guy.
2) i feel that someone who knew the family did this, i think he knew where to go and how to get there and the layout. i dont think the dad did this, but i think it's someone he knows.



Charlotte Pollis
Doreen Marfeo

1) i think Paul Pollis killed Charlotte. the guy came off as smug and arrogant and his line on cleaning just made him sound more guilty than innocent. i think the parents likely helped, though i dont think they did the killing.
2) As for Marfeo, i have no question that it was the husban, he killed his last wife, then himself and wrote a note that made it sound like he did it. i think it was Marfeo.



Cecilia Newball & Rene Perez Jr.
Morgan Nick
Pamela Page

1) the first case is toughest for me. if i had the guess, either the husband did it or it was someone who wanted to get the husband back or get with the husband and i think the woman calling helped in the killing or even did it.
2) i think Morgan Nick was kidnapped by that guy that her friends described as creepy, likely raped and killed :(
3) as for Pam Page, despite what the police say, i think the husband (again) did this. i wouldnt suspect him if he hadnt changed his story like he did, what was the point of making up a story in the first place!!!!! BUT with that said, cant charge him for the killing as he's no longer alive.

Like Mike's dad said, they got him first.

Couldn't he have shot himself in the heart and the head was moved later by animals?

England's parallel case to Jodi Huisentruit,that of Jill Dando,still remains unsolved.http://youtu.be/VV78d9jmpiU

Am I the only one who thinks Gordon Collins WAS that drifter in Mexico?

Am I the only one who thinks Gordon Collins WAS that drifter in Mexico?

I'm 50/50 on that one. Didn't everyone else on the boat die, and their bodies were later found? But then again I remember his parents talking to a lot of witnesses who placed Gordon wandering around Mexico. I don't know it could just be a weird coincidence that it's an American drifter who looks like Collins. I tend to think that by now if the man was indeed Collins he would have made some sort of an attempt to find out who he really was.

I'm 50/50 on that one. Didn't everyone else on the boat die, and their bodies were later found? But then again I remember his parents talking to a lot of witnesses who placed Gordon wandering around Mexico. I don't know it could just be a weird coincidence that it's an American drifter who looks like Collins. I tend to think that by now if the man was indeed Collins he would have made some sort of an attempt to find out who he really was.

Right, he was the only person not found from the boat.

I guess I think at least the Colonia Vicente sightings are credible. Street living's not easy--maybe he could be a John Doe? I don't know. It does seem incredible that he could have survived while his friends perished, but I just get a very "non-BS" vibe from the CV folks.

Right, he was the only person not found from the boat.

I guess I think at least the Colonia Vicente sightings are credible. Street living's not easy--maybe he could be a John Doe? I don't know. It does seem incredible that he could have survived while his friends perished, but I just get a very "non-BS" vibe from the CV folks.

I suppose it's possible that Gordon could have been jailed for some offense or sent to some sort of group home or shelter as a John Doe. Didn't his parents come really close to intercepting the man that people were id'ing as Gordon? I haven't seen the segment in awhile, but from what I remember the witnesses were all credible and had nothing to gain by saying that the man they saw was Gordon.

I suppose it's possible that Gordon could have been jailed for some offense or sent to some sort of group home or shelter as a John Doe. Didn't his parents come really close to intercepting the man that people were id'ing as Gordon? I haven't seen the segment in awhile, but from what I remember the witnesses were all credible and had nothing to gain by saying that the man they saw was Gordon.

Yes, there was a man who was detained in the local jail for stealing food who spoke English and had given his name as Gordy to an American ex-pat living in Colonia Vicente. He was released before the Collins' private investigator could get down to the village, IIRC.

That's the thing that gets me: no one has anything to gain by saying they've seen him, and apparently more than one person can corroborate the jail story--I clearly remember the man saying "when we met him at the jail...".

Yes, there was a man who was detained in the local jail for stealing food who spoke English and had given his name as Gordy to an American ex-pat living in Colonia Vicente. He was released before the Collins' private investigator could get down to the village, IIRC.

That's the thing that gets me: no one has anything to gain by saying they've seen him, and apparently more than one person can corroborate the jail story--I clearly remember the man saying "when we met him at the jail...".

Wow, forgot about the jail sighting and the man calling himself "Gordy". I'd say that ups the chances of him surviving a lot.

Katherine Korzilius - Bryan Nisenfeld - This is a hard one, too. I don't think it was suicide, but I'm really split on whether it was accidental or murder. He very well could have been murdered, and because of the harassing phone calls, there was certainly a reason for him to be scared, but I think the possibility of an accident is likely also. Because he liked to sit and read on a jetty near the ocean, I think it's possible that he could have slipped and fallen off of them, possibly hitting his head, and drowned in the ocean. The thing that really makes this one difficult is that his foot is the only part of him that was ever found, so whether it became detached from his body as a result of being dismembered or simply because sea animals were eating away at his corpse is something that really can't be said either way.

I dont believe he killed himself either,I wondered about that last bit of the segment when Stack said some mysterious caller contacted the show and said the school knew more then they were telling. Falling of the ledge would really be a terrible way to go.

Does anybody want to tackle Ralph Sigler's case? I was thinking about it today and wondered if there were any fresh thoughts on it.

Jodi Huisentruit - I believe she was abducted and murdered by some crazed fan.
Angela Hammond - Most likely abducted and murdered by the man at the phone booth.
Kristi Krebs - Most likely died from exposure or murdered by somebody.
Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman - I really don't know about this one it's tough. I think some drug dealers abducted them and raped them and killed them not much after.
Amy Bradley - Probably fell over board.
Jeremy Bright - Murdered by sick twisted teenagers.
Katherine Korzilius - I really don't know, i don't think the mother has anything to do with it as the son was in the backseat of the car and they got home fine. It's been forever since i saw this one, but if i remember maybe someone tried to abduct her but failed.
Bryan Nisenfeld - Suicide or possibly an accident.
A.J. Breaux - This one is a very tough one. I think A.J could've known about something from the AA meetings. Can't be totally sure at all. I have to re-watch this one.
Dottie Caylor - Killed by the husband.
Anthonette Cayedito - I think the phone call was her. I find it strange that the sister gave the story many years later, i know she had nothing to do with it but why wasn't she scared that she saw her sister grabbed? It was like nothing happened. The abductors said they were Uncle Joe, but i don't get she tells the police 5 years later. Not her mother at all.
Leonard Dirickson - I don't think he would've got up and left his son like that. I don't know if the guy who came by and asked about the horse killed him. He could've been involved in something. I don't think it was him at that bar.
Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes - Floyd knows everything.
John Cheek - Obviously snapped because of the too much work he had. He could be alive but i don't know.
Adam Hecht - Tony was probably involved. Adam was obsessed with homeless people, he might've become homeless himself but probably ran into something bad.
Charles Horvath - Met the wrong person and was murdered. He could still be in that lake, anyone know if they ever searched the other side?
Dale Kerstetter - I have doubts about this one. He was most likely a victim. I wish we could've seen the real tape and got more of an idea. If he was part of it, he would've come back by now. I do think the robber was someone that used to work at the plant and he killed Dale because Dale knew who it was.
Oliver Munson - Watson hired someone to kill him. No way would someone disappear like he would.
Jean Moore - This one is strange. The husband kept changing his story. I think he murdered her.
Gordon Page Jr. - I go 50/50 on this one. On one part i believe he is alive and someone that doesn't know who he is taking care of him and the other is sadly i think he died from exposure.
Morgan Nick - Sadly abducted, murdered and raped.
Pamela Page - Another one where the husband did it.
Judith Hymes - I think she died during the abortion. The phone call was some sick prank and i think the letter was legit.

Most of the others i removed because i can barley remember them or i haven't seen them.

I'll do some of the ones I have strong opinions on:


Jodi Huisentruit: Abducted by a stalker, and murdered likely within hours of being taken.

Angela Hammond: It played out exactly how UM portrayed it. Abducted by the creepy dude in the truck. Likely raped and murdered. I believe Rob's story.

Kristi Krebs: Definetly suffered a mental breakdown of some sort. Wandered away from the car in a bad state of mind, and got lost in the woods. Died of exposure or animal attack.

Lauria Bible and Ashley Freeman: Drug deal gone bad. Although it is a bit weird as to why whoever did this didnt kill the girls right away, just like they did the parents. I dont believe the girls are involved at all. If they were, they would have been found not long afterwards. At that age, with limited means they likely wouldnt have been able to hide for long. I think they were abducted by the perpetrator(s) and killed sometime afterwards.

Amy Bradley - Either fell overboard accidently, or was murdered/thrown overboard by a ship employee. I dont believe the sex slave story.

Jeremy Bright : Murdered by the local thugs.

Bryan Nisenfeld : I lean towards suicide or accident. Dont think he was murdered.

Dottie Caylor: Either successfully dissapeared, or in an attempt to dissapear ran into the wrong person/people and was killed. Salad boy Jule may be a complete dick, but I dont think he killed her.

Sharon Marshall & Michael Hughes: Definetly Floyd. Not much else to say here.

Adam Hecht: Joined the homeless lifestyle and ran into the wrong person. Murdered. Tony at least knows what happened, possibly involved as well.

Dale Kerstetter: Very interesting case. I have gone back and forth alot. At one time, I thought he was involved. I dont believe he is now. I think he would have turned up by now. I do think whoever did this was a former employee. Dale was quite possibly killed at the plant.

Oliver Munson: Killed by an associate of Watson to keep him from testifying.

Gordon Page Jr: Either died on the streets or taken advantage of by someone. I do not believe he is still alive.

Judith Hymes - Died during the abortion. Just like the letter said.

A few more:

Blair Adams: Murdered but not by someone supposedly chasing him across the USA. I dont know how to explain his actions, but I dont believe that part of it. I think his murder was just an act of random violence.

Justin Burgwinkle: Either dissapeared on his own or was murdered by fellow soldiers. I dont buy the story about him being involved in espionage and all the White Sands reference. I think that was all his creation.

Claudia Kirschhoch: Probably raped and murdered by Anthony Grant. I dont believe she just wandered off.

Kristen Modafferi: I tend to lean towards accidental death.

Here's a few more I will add, and everyone else can chime in with their thoughts.


Keith Warren: Murdered. The hanging was an elaborate attempt at a coverup. Possibly involved with drugs, or knew information about someone he shouldnt have. The police were involved...Findley knew something (possibly involved) and was silenced.


Patricia Meehan: Wandered off in her weird mental state. I think she survived for awhile hopping rides on trucks but is definetly dead now.


Dick Hansen: Dont believe the "was killed by a disgruntled football fan" theory. I think the guy knew and possibly dated the women he was with (forget her name). I heard Dick has a history of being involved with drugs so possibly that was the reason too. If he was an ex, it was possibly a jealous retaliation. I think that woman knows more about what happened then she has told the police.

Dave Bocks: This case always creeped me out due to the possible nature of his death. Unfortunately, I do believe he was killed as to silence him. The argument he had in the truck with that unknown person, was possibly someone trying to convince him to "keep quiet". I just hope he wasnt alive when they dropped him into that furnace.

Tommy Burkett: Murdered. Police coverup to protect someone.

Cindy James: Wow. I tend to lean towards it being a legit stalking and murder...but I do not rule out the possibility everything was staged by her for some unknown reason.

Eric Tamiyasu: The Don Dixon guy always seemed the most suspicious to me. His friend Eric seemed legit, and the sheriff seemed like an idiot but not a murderer.

Roger Dean: I think Roger and the other guy planned to stage this robbery, but something happened to cause the other guy to turn on Roger (whether it was an argument at the house or it was his plan to do it all along) and kill him. I am not sure if the same guy is the one who called years later to try to get money from DJ.

Blair Adams: Murdered but not by someone supposedly chasing him across the USA. I dont know how to explain his actions, but I dont believe that part of it. I think his murder was just an act of random violence.


Agreed. It seems like he was suffering from a mental disorder, may have wandered onto the streets and encountered someone who tried to harm him. People who appear to be intoxicated or high are easy targets for muggers or harassers. I've also wondered if he could have struck a blow or injured himself in such a way that would have caused the blunt abdominal trauma (some swimmers have had this occur when attempting to belly flop) - it would have been difficult, but would it have been impossible?

Kristen Modafferi: I think she may have went to the Lands End or Sutro Baths area like she had been planning on doing and had an accidental fall. That area has had several sightseers fall into the bay accidentally; some of the bodies have never been recovered.

Rena Paquette's death doesn't seem to have been connected to her son's murder years later, but this book (http://books.google.com/books?id=A3FOqn-M7ysC&pg=PT81&lpg=PT81&dq=rena+paquette+death+another+fire+set&source=bl&ots=_v7T9Tnm5H&sig=3DPjn6MCqSvO852f-GBz_IYOtX8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=HdkyU4GaI8eorQGs64HwAw&ved=0CCgQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=rena%20paquette%20death%20another%20fire%20set&f=false) alleges that another fire was set in the pig sty while her family were attending her funeral. No flammable substances or containers were found in the area near Rena's body.

Bobby Fuller's death is also really strange. There's a good article (http://elpasotimes.typepad.com/morgue/2011/07/1982-broken-melody-bobby-fuller-resurrection-of-his-music.html) that lays out most of the facts. He was last seen around 3 am by Lloyd Esinger, the manager of the apartment building where he lived, drinking beer in Esinger's apartment. No one is certain if he actually went to a party. Witnesses who discovered his body believed that his right index finger was bent back and broken, but the official autopsy states that there was no indication of broken bones. Some accounts state that there was a book of matches on the car's front seat. His cause of death was from inhaling gasoline fumes. From the article: "a number of blood tests were conducted that concluded the musician had not taken barbiturates, Librium, Valium, strychnine or other drugs. Nor was alcohol detected. The scant blood samples, were exhausted before further tests could be run." That's interesting, in regards to Esinger's statement about Fuller drinking beer, but possibly the alcohol metabolized in his body prior to his death. His mother stated the he was depressed, but did not seem suicidal in the weeks preceding his death. Huffing gasoline to achieve a high wasn't that uncommon, but we don't have enough information about Fuller to determine if he would have done that; he was known to use LSD. There's all the murder theories, some more down the rabbit hole than others, that he was killed by criminal affiliates of Del-Fi, Frank Sinatra, or by his own bandmates and/or brother. If something did happen to Fuller at another location, and that's up for grabs, why would someone take the incredible risk of bringing the car and the body back to his residence, rather than simply abandoning the vehicle? I used to lean towards it being a cover up of a possible overdose or altercation, but there's not enough information from the investigation (or lack of) to come to a conclusion.

Tom Roche: murdered by the guy who wrote the letter, even though I think the writer lied in part to hide his identity. It may have been a petty dispute with a coworker from his new job, or an acquaintance that he socialized or traded parts with.

Charles Horvath: I think something happened to him around the time he last had contact with his family, but I don't think that he was alive for that much longer. Joanne, his friend, claimed to have last seen him at a nightclub in August of 1989, not the family dinner that Horvath allegedly interrupted a month or so prior. The RCMP also retrieved some of Horvath's possessions from individuals who knew him and were using them at the campsite.

Ted Loseff I think some relatives don't want to believe that their loved one could commit suicide even when it's apparent, and Ted had made a suicide attempt years before. This case does have some pretty off aspects to it: the phone being off of the hook for hours, then strangely being back on, Wilma Loseff going off with the housekeeper, the beer and cigarettes in the house, when Ted neither drank nor smoked.

What about Tami Lynn Leppert? I think that her case was akin to Gordon Page Jr in that she left while she was in a downward spiral mentally, and she eventually succumbed to the elements. She had had some type of mental breakdown and should have been committed. At one point, it was believed that she may have been a murder victim of serial killer Christopher Wilder, who killed a large number of young women until his death. Her family eventually sued Wilder before he was killed, although they eventually decided to halt the process, as some had their doubts if he was involved in her disappearance. Her agent also expressed that she did not believe Wilder killed Tami.

Jodi Huisentruit i think was abducted by someone who was stalking her and was obsessed with her on TV. Tara Breckenridge is a hard one because Wayne gives me the creeps but something also makes me think he had nothing to do with it. Given her line of work she could of also had an obsessed 'customer' who took her life.