FarinaforBrkfast
04-03-2012, 11:22 PM
I think Patricia Meehan was a walk away....but after she left the car accident, she may have encountered fowl play.
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FarinaforBrkfast 04-03-2012, 11:22 PM I think Patricia Meehan was a walk away....but after she left the car accident, she may have encountered fowl play. scc1222 04-03-2012, 11:29 PM I think it's possible Amy Billig was,at least a first,a willing walk-away,tho she may have only intended to party and have a bit of a good time with the bikers,at least at first.I just find it hard to beleive she would have willingly gotten onto a bike but couldn't get off,at least sometime,when she realized the biker was off the path of where she wanted to go.I could be wrong, but it's a bike,not a car.and I don't find it at all odd that she may have wanted a simple,short time of partying with them,given her age and all.I think it's possible she just got in over her head with them,esp. once her mom started looking for her.I don't think the bikers took that very well at all.she may have been there willingly,but they were afraid they would be accused to abducting her.jmo.I'm not saying at all that she wasn't abducted,that's possible,too.we just don't know. 1990 UM fan 04-04-2012, 03:55 AM Dottie Caylor is a possibility. I think she could've walked away from her husband Jule but then again she has agoraphobia so I'm on the fence about that one. Margie Jelovcic is another one I think walked away originally and ran off with Randy Yager but I think somewhere down the line she was murdered. RobinW 04-04-2012, 09:38 AM I'd go with Selena Edon, who's one of the few missing people profiled on UM that I think could possibly still be alive today. There was never indication of foul play and the erratic behaviour and physical and mental problems stemming from her motorcycle accident make it plausible that she might willingly decide to disappear. Unlike, say, Patricia Meehan or Kristi Krebs, she didn't just wander off somewhere, she just stopped contacting her family. MegtheEgg86 04-04-2012, 09:52 AM I'd go with Selena Edon, who's one of the few missing people profiled on UM that I think could possibly still be alive today. Me too. I also think Dottie Caylor could be one, and a certain chance of Justin Burgwinkel being a walk-away (and AWOL) too. amandab1234 04-04-2012, 03:32 PM I think Patricia Meehan was a walk away....but after she left the car accident, she may have encountered fowl play. For some reason, Cynthia Anderson. It seems like she came from a really strict religious household and she wanted to get away from it. Her father also seemed really strict. Steve W. 04-04-2012, 04:00 PM "For some reason, Cynthia Anderson. It seems like she came from a really strict religious household and she wanted to get away from it. Her father also seemed really strict." I think she would have emerged by now (ie past identity revealed) if that was the case. I think the idea that she was murdered by the guy (or by people associated with that guy) that the lawyer was defending and she found out information about is the most likely thing that happened. Gordon Page is a walk-away (at least initially) for sure, right? UMFaninMD 04-04-2012, 06:56 PM I also think there's good reason for Dottie Caylor leaving on her own. She could have gotten help from others to leave. And with an ass like Jule for a husband, it sure wouldn't be that hard! SheRaaa 04-04-2012, 07:29 PM Another vote for Dottie Caylor -- with an ex like Jule, who WOULDN'T want to run away and hide??? Clockworkhigh 04-04-2012, 11:39 PM Dottie is my pick here. I can't wrap my head around Jule killing her. Dottie had a sister as far as we knew but no other family I recall. No kids, not sure about any parents. So if she wanted to wash her hands with Jule I can understand that. Okay.............this one might shock a few people but in reality it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Charlotte Pollis. Yeah, probably not, but her family was nuts. Her mother called 10-14 times a day. That's obsessive behaviour. There isn't any evidence that her and Paul had problems though but you never know with things. I know people don't want to think a mother will pack up and take off with a family behind her but it happens. Gail Delano anyone? She had kids. Also what is really bothersome to me is there is no evidence at all that a crime was committed in that house. No struggle, no witnesses, nothing. Just a paranoid family member who wanted to see a locked shed that had (wait for it) footprints going towards it. Well, you think? Why wouldn't it have footprints? Oh and a neighbour who saw Paul in his driveway packing his car up and looking at her.............in broad daylight. I really have never been able to put my finger on this case so it is possible Charlotte left RobinW 04-05-2012, 02:21 AM Okay.............this one might shock a few people but in reality it isn't out of the realm of possibility. Charlotte Pollis. Yeah, probably not, but her family was nuts. Her mother called 10-14 times a day. That's obsessive behaviour. There isn't any evidence that her and Paul had problems though but you never know with things. I know people don't want to think a mother will pack up and take off with a family behind her but it happens. Gail Delano anyone? She had kids. Also what is really bothersome to me is there is no evidence at all that a crime was committed in that house. No struggle, no witnesses, nothing. Just a paranoid family member who wanted to see a locked shed that had (wait for it) footprints going towards it. Well, you think? Why wouldn't it have footprints? Oh and a neighbour who saw Paul in his driveway packing his car up and looking at her.............in broad daylight. I really have never been able to put my finger on this case so it is possible Charlotte left Yes, unlike most of the other cases where a wife goes missing and the husband looks guilty as hell, Charlotte at least had a semi-plausible reason for possibly wanting to take off since her crazy mother could have caused her to reach her breaking point. However, the main reason I've never believed she took off willingly is because she was feeling ill and recovering from an ear infection and that's definitely not an ideal time for anyone to disappear and start a new life, no matter what the circumstances. I'll also take this opportunity to make mention of Alex Cooper, one of the few UM missing persons who was proven to have deliberately staged their own disappearance and was later found alive. He did all this because he was too ashamed to reveal to his family that he had committed a crime a long time ago and had been living under a false name the whole time. scc1222 04-05-2012, 02:54 AM I'll also take this opportunity to make mention of Alex Cooper, one of the few UM missing persons who was proven to have deliberately staged their own disappearance and was later found alive. He did all this because he was too ashamed to reveal to his family that he had committed a crime a long time ago and had been living under a false name the whole time. uh well...that was his excuse.like his family wouldn't have understood tho (as opposed to him walking out?).I just get the feeling,like with the guy that skipped out and went to FL,that he was tired of his family and wanted a new life.his family seemed like they were going to have to work hard on forgiveness,and i don't blame them. BritishJustice 04-05-2012, 01:56 PM At times, I think that Leah Roberts could fit this category. Wanting to get away from it all and leave everything behind, after a troubled and traumatic past. Other times of watching the segment, maybe not... :crazy: :confused: dynoguy88 04-05-2012, 01:58 PM For some reason, Cynthia Anderson. It seems like she came from a really strict religious household and she wanted to get away from it. Her father also seemed really strict. I thought her father came across as annoyingly strick about trivial things in the segment. However, I don't think Cindy just walked away. She had a boyfriend and she was looking forward to leaving in a few weeks to go to a bible college with him. She would have been away from her father in no time. What would be the point of running away and not telling her siblings or her boyfriend just because she wanted to be away from her father? crookshanks 04-05-2012, 02:50 PM I thought her father came across as annoyingly strick about trivial things in the segment. However, I don't think Cindy just walked away. She had a boyfriend and she was looking forward to leaving in a few weeks to go to a bible college with him. She would have been away from her father in no time. What would be the point of running away and not telling her siblings or her boyfriend just because she wanted to be away from her father? Maybe she didn't really want to attend Bible college with her boyfriend? It's possible it was all an act. But I think someone would have heard from her by now, unless there was something absolutely awful going on that made her cut ties with friends or family forever. We will never know what her true state of mind was... WishfulDreamer 04-05-2012, 03:21 PM I don't think Charlotte Pollis would be a walkaway for two main reasons: 1) She was pretty ill at the time 2) Two young children Dottie Caylor could have been, but then why would she put her friends and sister through the ringer worrying about her? Doesn't seem right. TheCars1986 04-05-2012, 04:10 PM Selena Edon is the only one who I believe actually walked away and could possibly still be alive. I also think Judy Smith (the woman who had the distinctive red backpack who was in Philadelphia with her husband for a business trip, who later disappeared and her body was found in North Carolina) was a possible "walk away" who met up with foul play. And there is a very slight chance that Pam Page did in fact run off to start a new life. BritishJustice 04-05-2012, 04:37 PM I think she would have emerged by now (ie past identity revealed) if that was the case. I think the idea that she was murdered by the guy (or by people associated with that guy) that the lawyer was defending and she found out information about is the most likely thing that happened. A thought just came to mind. An 'out-there' thought, but a thought none the less. Witness Protection after being a witness to criminal activity that was later found to be going on. She was "disappered" in exchange for evidence and safe freedom... I warned you it was out there!! Clockworkhigh 04-06-2012, 04:02 AM Selena Edon is the only one who I believe actually walked away and could possibly still be alive. I also think Judy Smith (the woman who had the distinctive red backpack who was in Philadelphia with her husband for a business trip, who later disappeared and her body was found in North Carolina) was a possible "walk away" who met up with foul play. And there is a very slight chance that Pam Page did in fact run off to start a new life. Pam Page huh? Yeah remote in my mind. Unfortunately we'll never know since Rob - the chief suspect - is dead. There are too many things he did that were weird and out of the ordinary. Forging Pam's name on a letter and such. Pam is 99.9% dead in my mind. Then the whole psychic thing. I know a psychic isn't admissable in court, but man did she have some accurate stuff or what! The "woman" who the psychic claims helped Rob dump the body could very well have been someone he was having an affair with. Pam finds out, a fight ensues and he accidentally kills her. The only thing that can possibly salvage Rob in this case is that he claims there was $60,000 taken out of the safe. If this is true and there is evidence to corroborate that there WAS money in there then it might be the only saving grace for Rob. However, he could have taken the money himself. He would have had to have not deposited it anywhere and pretty much kept it under his mattress though, which is possible. Pam seemed close enough to her family that she'd have let them know she was okay by the looks of it. Which is another dagger on Rob's side. Lastly, I would love to know who, if anyone, that he was dating shortly after his wife's disappearance. I don't think Charlotte Pollis would be a walkaway for two main reasons: 1) She was pretty ill at the time 2) Two young children Dottie Caylor could have been, but then why would she put her friends and sister through the ringer worrying about her? Doesn't seem right. Some people are selfish. It happens. You and I might not ever do that, but some people would. You never know, Charlotte's mother could have had a fight with her and Charlotte might have just put her hands up in the air and said "I've had it." There is probably more that the mother knows that she lets on, I'm just saying. But as for being sick, I don't know, you might be tired with an ear infection and stuff but you can walk around and move. Plus its going to heal. If you have the perfect chance to leave you are still going to do it even if you don't feel very good. "Yeah, yeah, take the kids to do some errands, I'll be here resting while you are gone." Perfect opportunity I think. Of course it is only speculation CuriousMind90 04-06-2012, 04:54 AM I'd go with Selena Edon, who's one of the few missing people profiled on UM that I think could possibly still be alive today. There was never indication of foul play and the erratic behaviour and physical and mental problems stemming from her motorcycle accident make it plausible that she might willingly decide to disappear. Unlike, say, Patricia Meehan or Kristi Krebs, she didn't just wander off somewhere, she just stopped contacting her family. I don't think Edon is alive today. It's been 21 years since anyone has heard from her. And in her state--confused, not really comprehending things or remembering people--she could've very easily met with foul play at some point after she left. She could've easily met the wrong person--She was vulnerable. WishfulDreamer 04-06-2012, 01:51 PM Some people are selfish. It happens. You and I might not ever do that, but some people would. You never know, Charlotte's mother could have had a fight with her and Charlotte might have just put her hands up in the air and said "I've had it." There is probably more that the mother knows that she lets on, I'm just saying. But as for being sick, I don't know, you might be tired with an ear infection and stuff but you can walk around and move. Plus its going to heal. If you have the perfect chance to leave you are still going to do it even if you don't feel very good. "Yeah, yeah, take the kids to do some errands, I'll be here resting while you are gone." Perfect opportunity I think. Of course it is only speculation I get where you're coming from. But she had just gotten back from the ER with this infection; that tells me that she was pretty sick and in a lot of pain. I think if I was going to run from a crazy mother and/ or husband, I would wait til I was healthier. And no one saw her at all. Plus, wasn't the car still there? I would have to rewatch the segment, but how did she get anywhere? Sadly, I think she is dead. She could have been very vulnerable while resting or ill and that's when Paul or somebody else could have done something about it. Clockworkhigh 04-07-2012, 01:09 AM I get where you're coming from. But she had just gotten back from the ER with this infection; that tells me that she was pretty sick and in a lot of pain. I think if I was going to run from a crazy mother and/ or husband, I would wait til I was healthier. And no one saw her at all. Plus, wasn't the car still there? I would have to rewatch the segment, but how did she get anywhere? Sadly, I think she is dead. She could have been very vulnerable while resting or ill and that's when Paul or somebody else could have done something about it. This is what is so perplexing about this case. No one saw ANYTHING. They didn't see Charlotte get into a cab. They didn't see intruders. There were no signs of a struggle. No one saw Paul do anything other than stand in his driveway loading up his car. There was no blood. I believe she left her purse as well. Charlotte Pollis is one of those people who almost seems as if she vanished from the face of the earth. This is why I hesitate on fingering Paul for the disappearance. When you look at that segment objectively there is nothing out of the ordinary that strikes a cord. I can even understand him getting out of town for a bit. I might have too if everyone was accusing me of things. Blackout 04-07-2012, 02:35 AM I think Patricia Meehan was a walk away....but after she left the car accident, she may have encountered fowl play. foul play Blackout 04-07-2012, 02:36 AM gordon page was a walkaway FarinaforBrkfast 04-07-2012, 03:24 AM "foul play" Blackout805 - Thanks for the correction. I literally LOL'd when I realized it!! Blackout 04-13-2012, 02:41 AM lol youre welcome soilentgreen 04-13-2012, 11:40 AM Justin Burgwinkel; he seemed to be indulging in major flights of fancy about his military activities, but I've always wondered why he hasn't attempted to contact any of his family or friends over the years. Paul Whipkey's walk away (if it was that, rather than the cover up of his illness or death) seems more complex and credible, as far as their being outside involvement. With Selena Edon, Star Palumbo, Patricia Meehan and Kristi Krebs, deteriorating mental conditions would have made them vulnerable, either to suicide, the elements (particularly with Meehan and Krebs) or to other individuals. chacha6581 04-13-2012, 10:38 PM I'd go with Selena Edon, who's one of the few missing people profiled on UM that I think could possibly still be alive today. There was never indication of foul play and the erratic behaviour and physical and mental problems stemming from her motorcycle accident make it plausible that she might willingly decide to disappear. Unlike, say, Patricia Meehan or Kristi Krebs, she didn't just wander off somewhere, she just stopped contacting her family. Agree. I also felt that she had a partner and they wanted a more private relationship perhaps.... 1990 UM fan 04-14-2012, 01:14 PM I'm hoping alot of these women did just walk away because the alternative is that they're dead. I wouldn't see why though that they would not contact family after all this time, unless they don't want to be found or are indeed deceased. :( amandab1234 04-16-2012, 06:37 PM Selena Edon is the only one who I believe actually walked away and could possibly still be alive. I also think Judy Smith (the woman who had the distinctive red backpack who was in Philadelphia with her husband for a business trip, who later disappeared and her body was found in North Carolina) was a possible "walk away" who met up with foul play. And there is a very slight chance that Pam Page did in fact run off to start a new life. I have to agree with Selena Edon. I think she may have moved on with a partner and perhaps felt her family wouldnt accept it? (I probably sound horrible for thinking she was gay but thats just the vibe I got) asmitty 04-20-2012, 01:45 PM Agree. I also felt that she had a partner and they wanted a more private relationship perhaps.... That's an interesting thought chacha6581. I would have never thought about that angle to this one. I definitely believe the Selena Edon was a "walk-away" though. As for Charlotte Pollis, people mentioned her mother's obsessive behavior in calling her 10-14 times a day, but I don't think that would have been an issue for Charlotte. I definitely thought Charlotte's mom was a bit off and definitely very overbearing, but I always got the impression that she and Charlotte were close and that Charlotte willingly talked to her mother that often. I've also never liked or trusted Paul. I've always felt that Dottie Caylor was a walk-away. I think she overcame her agoraphobia and didn't want to be with Jule anymore. As for why she would be willing to put her sister and friends through it, I think it's a small price to pay for being rid of Jule. Given the kind of relationship she and Jule had, I can't imagine she had a huge number of real friends of her own. |