http://www.christianpost.com/news/kirk-cameron-says-homosexuality-is-unnatural-destructive-70790/

I agree.

Oh, yes. When I think about the love between two people, my first thought is how "destructive" and "unnatural" their feelings are. :rolleyes:

Agree or disagree, it was brave for Kirk Cameron to voice his opinion on the subject. Piers Morgan also agrees...


http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/04/kirk-cameron-piers-morgan-gay-marriage-video/

Bullsh**. Don't make me sick, the idea that it's somehow brave for a known wingnut crank to make homophobic remarks. Was it brave for the sun to rise this morning?

If he had said something counter to the mentality that boos gay soldiers during republican primary debates or that no kid deserves to be bullied for being gay...you know, something recognizably human?...that would have been brave. For him....

But this? Again what he said is as predictable of dirt but calling it brave? PLEASE. Chile, get me a bucket....

A brave man comes home...
http://cdn.crushable.com/files/2012/02/kiss.jpg

This is the image that will be remembered in history long after history has shamed fools like Kirk Cameron

I disagree vehemently with what Kirk Cameron said, and am saddened that anyone would use a national platform to espouse such hatred, but he does have every right to voice his opinion.

I also disagree with GLAAD "monitoring" Mr. Cameron's bookings and speaking appearances. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like they're becoming the next PETA, a group that will do anything to terrorize and demonize those who don't agree with their views.

At the end of the day, Kirk Cameron is preaching to "the choir," is converting nobody, and is doing a better job of making himself look and sound foolish than you or I ever could. If you don't believe me, watch him with Ray Comfort on Way of the Master sometime.

Hey Kirk,
Judge not lest ye be judged.
Matthew 7:1

The only downside to freedom of speech is that you're allowed to say all the hurtful, damaging and offensive remarks you please, which Kirk has certainly done.

Kirk's comments make me more sad than angry. Because the very stuff he is saying, that gays are unnatural and detrimental to society, is the kind of hate speech that is causing the suicide rate of gay teens to increase like it never has before. To me, that is much more detrimental to society than being morally opposed to people just trying to live their lives with the ones they love.

Even more disturbing, I think, was Kirk's response to Morgan if one of his children ended up being gay. For their own personal sanity, I hope all 6 of those kids turn out to be straight because the emotional torture under Cameron they will go through if they're not is truly a scary thought.

The only downside to freedom of speech is that you're allowed to say all the hurtful, damaging and offensive remarks you please, which Kirk has certainly done.

Kirk's comments make me more sad than angry. Because the very stuff he is saying, that gays are unnatural and detrimental to society, is the kind of hate speech that is causing the suicide rate of gay teens to increase like it never has before. To me, that is much more detrimental to society than being morally opposed to people just trying to live their lives with the ones they love.

Even more disturbing, I think, was Kirk's response to Morgan if one of his children ended up being gay. For their own personal sanity, I hope all 6 of those kids turn out to be straight because the emotional torture under Cameron they will go through if they're not is truly a scary thought.

:yeahthat

Many celebs, including two of Kirk's 'Growing Pains' co-stars have been putting up some great tweets in response to his interesting remarks. These are great...

ALAN THICKE: "I'm getting him some new books. The Old Testament simply can't be expected to explain everything. I love Kirk but I'm going to have to give him a spanking...and not in a gay way."

TRACEY GOLD: "I am a strong supporter of the #LGBT Community, and I believe in equal rights for all. #NOH8 #LOVE"

CHRISTOPHER RICE: "Kirk Cameron says marriage was defined by God in the Garden of Eden. No response from Cameron on why the world isn't full of talking snakes."

ROSEANNE BARR: "Kirk or Kurt or whatever Cameron is an accomplice to murder with his hate speech. so is Rick Warren. Their peers r killing gays in Uganda."

CRAIG FERGUSON: "Rush makes me ashamed to be a middleaged white man and Kirk Cameron makes me ashamed to be a failed actor. We don't all think like that NoH8."

MATT DOYLE: "Sad shame about Kirk Cameron. Takes some serious fear and insecurity to make hateful comments about things that have nothing to do with you."

BILLY EICHNER: "So great to hear what Kirk Cameron thinks about gay people. Anybody know where Tina Yothers stands on the death penalty?"

JOSH CHARLES: "I know Growing Pains was only a TV show, but I have to think both Alan Thicke & Joanna Kerns must feel they failed as parents tonight."

SARAH COLONNA: "Wish I could go to the 80s & un-buy that Kirk Cameron poster. Loving God but spreading hate has never made sense to me."

JORDAN KNIGHT: "Ted Haggard vehemently opposed gays as well. Wonder why? He couldn’t accept himself ... in my opinion. #justsayin"

DEBRA MESSING: "I want to thank Piers Morgan for his response to what he wud say to HIS child if (s)he came out: "Great, as long as you’re happy."

NICK STADLER: "Amazing how many idiots feel empowered by Kirk Cameron. It'll be even better after he's caught sucking [expletive] in a public toilet."

ZACH BRAFF: "If Kirk Cameron hates gay people, why was he best friends with Boner?"

TONY TRIPOLI: "I now blame Kirk Cameron for poor Tracy Gold's eating issues. He's made ME want to puke all day, too."

MARTHA PLIMPTON: "The word 'Equality' shows up too much in our founding documents for anyone to pretend it's not the American way. #usethe19th #equalitynow"

JESSE TYLER FERGUSON: "The only unnatural thing about me being gay is that I had a crush on Kirk Cameron until about 24 hours ago."

Hey Kirk,
Judge not lest ye be judged.
Matthew 7:1

I'll see your Matthew 7:1 and raise you Romans 1:27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:27&version=NIV).

Agree or disagree, it was brave for Kirk Cameron to voice his opinion on the subject. Piers Morgan also agrees...


http://www.tmz.com/2012/03/04/kirk-cameron-piers-morgan-gay-marriage-video/
"brave"? Were the KKK brave for voicing their opinions as well?

I disagree vehemently with what Kirk Cameron said, and am saddened that anyone would use a national platform to espouse such hatred, but he does have every right to voice his opinion.

I also disagree with GLAAD "monitoring" Mr. Cameron's bookings and speaking appearances. I hope I'm wrong, but it seems like they're becoming the next PETA, a group that will do anything to terrorize and demonize those who don't agree with their views.
Way of the Master sometime.
Nobody is saying he can't voice his opinion, no matter how bigoted or hurtul it may be, not even GLAAD is doing that. In the same way that Cameron is allowed his idiotic view, others are allowed to express their opinions on his views. The people who employ him also should know, especially if he's making such outrageous claims on national television.

I'll see your Matthew 7:1 and raise you Romans 1:27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:27&version=NIV).

http://www.gaychristian101.com/Romans-1.html

I'll see your Matthew 7:1 and raise you Romans 1:27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:27&version=NIV).

Ah, forget the Bible. Kirk is a little bitch who hides behind his religion to cloak his own prejudices.

I don't agree with Kirk 100% on many things, but the tweets that some made were just below-the-belt.

Besides...God isn't Narrow-minded...he just can't tolerate intolerance! (And Kirk Cameron was VERY rebellious prior to 1987).

I'll see your Matthew 7:1 and raise you Romans 1:27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:27&version=NIV).

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bible which also says we can stone adulterers, can't eat shellfish, says it's alright to have slaves, outlaws divorce and considers remarrying as adultery, says men can't have their hair trimmed around their temples, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I advise that you stop while you're ahead before you embarrass yourself anymore.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bible which also says we can stone adulterers, can't eat shellfish, says it's alright to have slaves, outlaws divorce and considers remarrying as adultery, says men can't have their hair trimmed around their temples, yadda, yadda, yadda.

I advise that you stop while you're ahead before you embarrass yourself anymore.

Here's the Kicker!...

John 8:7..."If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone..."

So Jesus LOVES all of you no matter what!

And if that was the message Kirk the jerk was preaching there wouldn't be an issue.

Does Kirk have a right to entitle his opinions? Yes.

But does he have a right to shove his own views down everyone else's throats? Absolutely not.

It's bad enough in this day and age that teen suicides rates have gone up from bullying and hazing and for him to say these kinds of things? He's taken his Christianity views and shoving them down people's throats too far. It's bad enough that he's already burned some bridges with some people by the way he's alienated some people with the way he gotten some cast and crew members fired from Growing Pains due to him shoving his religious views down people's throats (Julie McCollugh, anyone?) And this latest diatribe (sp?) one takes the dumbass cake.

Good luck to his children. May the lord have mercy on them when they get older.

Kirk Cameron Clarifies Homosexuality Comments: "I Love All People"
Joyce Eng
Mar 20, 2012


When asked if he was encouraging hatred against gay people:

No, of course not. I love all people. I hate no one. When you take a subject and reduce it to a four-second soundbite and a check mark on a ballot, I think it's inappropriate and insensitive.

The truth is that these are issues that are very personal and things that are best discussed, in the context that I believe, in a personal friendship with the subject asking the question. When things are edited like this, it didn't reflect my full heart on the matter.





When asked if he feels any responsibility if people might use his words as a means to use hatred towards gays:

No, we shouldn't mistreat anybody. Homosexuals should not be mistreated. Heterosexuals should not be mistreated. Bisexuals should not be mistreated.

What I think this reveals is that people who think deeply about social issues like gay marriage and abortion and homosexuality have convictions on issues, and we all have our convictions formed by different things. Mine are formed by my faith, they're informed by the word of God, and I found that to be an anchor for me, a compass and a guide for me.

When people start bullying one another and calling each other names I think that you would get into problems. I've also been on the receiving end of that.





When asked why he would even bother talking about the subject when he knows that people will take issue with what he has to say:

Frankly, I was surprised that people were so surprised by the things that I said because I've been consistent with my fifteen years as a Christian. I'm a Bible-believing Christian.

What I had thought would be more news worthy would be if I were to contradict the word of God and my faith.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Kirk-Cameron-Homosexuality-Comments-1045075.aspx

Kirk Cameron can think what he wants. I don't agree with what he said but I expected him to say homosexuality is a sin, when asked. He just, in my opinion, went overboard wih his answer. The thing that really gets me is that Kirk thinks that if one of his kids is gay, he can jut sit them down and talk them out of it. That's stupid.

If anything, with a dad like Kirk, his gay kid will stay in the closet forever (not to disapoint his father) and be unhappy his whole life because of it.

The thing that really gets me is that Kirk thinks that if one of his kids is gay, he can jut sit them down and talk them out of it. That's stupid.

If anything, with a dad like Kirk, his gay kid will stay in the closet forever (not to disapoint his father) and be unhappy his whole life because of it.

It's more than just being unhappy. It's about being made to feel guilt over something you have no control over and the emotional torture you will go through to "fix" yourself to please a narrow minded parent like Kirk. If that continues over time, you become more and more damaged until a breaking point where your soul is destroyed or you end it all by killing yourself. That's why I said before I hope all those kids turn out to be straight for their own personal sanity because Kirk will do them no favors if they aren't.

In regards to the new Kirk interviews, nothing has been cleaned up. He can go on the 'Today Show' and give condescending speeches about loving everyone all he wants but his comments about gays being unnatural and detrimental to society preaches hate, plain and simple. It wasn't an edited 4 second sound bite. Those were his exact words.

Kirk's logic is about as flawed as logic can get. If I walked up to a random woman on the street, told her she's dressed like a slut, tell her she and the way she's dressed is detrimental to society but then say I love you as a person, I think she still has a right to feel insulted, does she not? I don't think Kirk will ever understand that.

Lastly, Kirk should be told that many people weren't necessarily surprised he felt this way. I certainly wasn't. His well documented refusal to do certain scenes on 'Growing Pains' which drove the crew crazy when he became born again and his post-acting career can make us put 2 and 2 together. It came down to nothing but anger, plain and simple. Anger for using your words to offend so many people and then using the excuse, "But I'm a Christian, so I love everybody." Sorry, Kirk. You are not the victim here. And while you have the right to free speech, the public also has that right to call you out for your ignorance.

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Hey fellas, calm down. Take a few slow deep breaths. Feel better? Good. Now listen. Just because a person speaks out on homosexuality does NOT mean he hates gays. He hates the HOMOSEXUAL ACT ITSELF. Chances are he doesn't even know the gay man or men who are offended by his stand. So it's unrealistic to actually HATE someone who never did anything to you. But you CAN hate and take a (non-threatening and non-violent) stand against the act itself. To be specific and spell it out for any knuckleheads that STILL might not be clear on what I'm saying: basically they have as much of a right to live in peace as they live their lifestyle as those who are disgusted at the thought of 2 men together also have a right to voice their opposition. Here's my best and final shot at clarity: Homos don't hide that they are gay, so don't expect those who find that act vile and nasty to be untrue to themselves and agree about that because it would be the politically correct thing to do. If you want tolerance you must give it to others with an opposing view.

Here's my best and final shot at clarity: Homos don't hide that they are gay, so don't expect those who find that act vile and nasty to be untrue to themselves and agree about that because it would be the politically correct thing to do. .
Some homosexuals DO hide the fact that they are gay.

So much for your "best and final shot" at supposed clarity.

Try again, because it's a huge FAIL.

And they are not "homos" as you stated so elequently. They are homosexuals or gays.

If homosexuals want people to be tolerant of their lifesyle or sexual preferences, then they in turn must show tolerance to those who find the act to be nasty, filthy, vile, dirty and unnatural. Please note how in both my posts I NEVER mention the bible. Why? Because there are many things that are approved of in the bible that would'nt hold water today.

I truly believe there is a special place in hell for people like KirkThere's no doubt in my mind that Kirk Cameron is going to heaven.

Just because a person speaks out on homosexuality does NOT mean he hates gays..
Of course not but Kirk's outrageous comments that homosexuals are detrimental to society sure seem to imply that he does in this case.
He hates the HOMOSEXUAL ACT ITSELF
Nope. There's no such thing as "the homosexual act". If you mean anal sex, not all gay men practice that. And guess what, some heterosexuals DO practice it. It's not an exclusively homosexual act, knucklehead.
Chances are he doesn't even know the gay man or men who are offended by his stand. So it's unrealistic to actually HATE someone who never did anything to you.
Huh? The Jews did nothing to Hitler does that mean he didn't hate them?
But you CAN hate and take a (non-threatening and non-violent) stand against the act itself.
Once again, homosexuality means an ATTRACTION to the same sex. Not an act.
what I'm saying: basically they have as much of a right to live in peace as they live their lifestyle as those who are disgusted at the thought of 2 men together also have a right to voice their opposition.
Ok, it's clear that you're obsessed with two men together. Nobody else is talking about sex except you. There is a whole lot more to it than sex, I don't think that's even what Kirk was discussing. Geez... And by the way, homosexuality is not a "lifestyle", it's an orientation.
Homos don't hide that they are gay, so don't expect those who find that act vile and nasty to be untrue to themselves and agree about that because it would be the politically correct thing to do. If you want tolerance you must give it to others with an opposing view.
Many "homos" hide that they're gay as pointed out to you earlier, and once again. Homosexuality is no act, get your mind off the sex that you imagine all gay men are having for a second.

About the rest, who isn't tolerating? I have a hard time being PC with people's ignorant views, that's it. Sue me.

There's no doubt in my mind that Kirk Cameron is going to heaven.
Cool story dude. But actually, I think that post was a little strong. It's deleted.

To: An 80's Guy:

Reading your highly detailed point-by-point response to my post I couldn't help but notice how articulate you are. Were you on your high school's debating team? Also, comparing what men and women do in bed to what men and men do in bed is so far gone. . . . .well, I'll just leave it at that. (The phrase "apples and oranges" come to mind. . . .but a comparison with a more distinct difference would be more accurate.)

So we are simply going have to agree to disagree because you read my best points AGAINST and I read your best point IN FAVOR OF and neither one of us is even slightly swayed by the other's position.

Kevin Keller.

Were you on your high school's debating team? Also, comparing what men and women do in bed to what men and men do in bed is so far gone. . . . .well, I'll just leave it at that.

Quoted without shouting. Are you a fan of Lucy's later shows...?

Translation: I have no argument whatsoever to counter the comparison you made, but I wasn't reasoned into my disgust and you can't reason me out of feeling it. So there.

I know Kirk Cameron is a very devout Christian. But having said that I wish he would've kept his opinion to himself!

Actually though, many people view their religious "beliefs" as actual "facts" and not opinions and if you differ, then you are a sinner! My most recent boyfriend has a major problem with gays and he would start to quote Bible passages at me. I'd want to stick pencils in my ears to drown him out.


I would try to explain that it's not a choice and he would counter that the homosexual "lifestyle" is a choice. So I would ask him WHEN he "chose" to be attracted to girls instead of boys. He'd say he was attracted to girls because it was normal. I'd counter with, well it's normal for gay people to be attracted to their own gender. And then I'd get another Bible quote to illustrate that I was wrong. To sum it up...I don't even talk to him at all anymore. LOL (We had a lot of other issues)

To: An 80's Guy:
Also, comparing what men and women do in bed to what men and men do in bed is so far gone. . . . .well, I'll just leave it at that. (The phrase "apples and oranges" come to mind. . . .but a comparison with a more distinct difference would be more accurate.)

Not when they're doing the exact same thing.

I'll see your Matthew 7:1 and raise you Romans 1:27 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%201:27&version=NIV). :clap: :clap: :clap:

Wow... I didn't see this interview but after reading the brunt of it, I just had to reply.

I have to admit that although I didn't have as strong of an opinion about this subject as he does, any mention of homosexuality used to really, really bother me. However, as most of you know (and how could you not? ;) ) I absolutely adore David Hyde Pierce and it's pretty well known that he's married to a man. I have to give him a ton of credit for turning my opinion about same sex relationships around... seriously. I have a lot of friends who are gay and they are wonderful people. Their sexuality has no barring on whether or not I associate with them.

So reading Kirk's comments about how he thinks that homosexuality is destructive really burned me up! :angryfire :angryfire Please tell me how two men being married or in love with each other is hurting anyone else. There are men and women who are married to each other who have worse relationships.

It's the same thing with the recent Same sex marriage thing that went on in Seattle. They just passed that law and people can start getting married in June but I just KNOW that some morons are going to try to get it repealed just because they don't agree with it. HOW is the fact that two men or women marrying each other hurting anyone? If they love each other and want to be with each other who cares? And I was VERY happy that they had finally passed this law and was actually surprised that they hadn't done it sooner. Our Gay Pride parade is a huge deal every year and last year the Space Needle took some heat b/c they said that they wouldn't fly the colored flag unless they got a certain amount of donations for charity. They succeeded and I think it's great that they wanted to help out but oddly enough they don't ask for donations for charity before flying a Mariners flag or a Seahawks flag. Just sayin...

I couldn't help but be shocked when reading that Kirk Cameron was an atheist until he was 17 and now he's a born-again Christian. I don't want to get into the religion thing. But something must have happened to him (something HUGE) for him to go through such a massive change. First he doesn't believe in God and now he REALLY believes in God? I really don't get it.

He does have a right to his opinion but I think he went overboard. He had to have known that this would be controversial. And I couldn't believe his answer to the question about what he'd say to his own children if they came to him and said they were in love with a person of the same sex. There's no doubt in my mind that Kirk would try to talk them out of it and show them that it's "wrong". I would hope that he would support them and be happy for them, but somehow I have my doubts.

Stay tuned for Kirk Cameron's participation in a new reality show...

"Growing Brains"

A reality series where extremist religious people are cured of their horrible disease.

Here’s Kirk Cameron Telling Us How To Talk To Gay People (http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2014/11/heres-kirk-cameron-telling-us-how-to-talk-to-gay-people/) :crazy:

Kirk Cameron is a delusional *********.

Here’s Kirk Cameron Telling Us How To Talk To Gay People (http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2014/11/heres-kirk-cameron-telling-us-how-to-talk-to-gay-people/) :crazy:
Seriously?

If he wants to spread what he believes, he should make a video on how to witness to PEOPLE in general because ALL PEOPLE are the SAME and EQUAL!

I've been saved and baptized and I believe in God and that Jesus is my Lord and Savior but he is seriously taking this whole anti-gay agenda way too far.

I was always taught that negative breeds more negative and to think positive and love one another and you will be blessed. I'm not a perfect person (this we all know) but NO ONE is perfect. Why must me look for ways to judge people when we should be looking for ways to show care and compassion.

With this being said, I'm tired of being tempted to read everything that pops up about Kirk Cameron so I'm washing my hands right here and now. I'm done. I've said my peace and will not reply anymore to this post or ANYTHING else relating to him or anyone for that matter that has ANY negative things to say.

I think extremists like Cameron give anti-religious people too much ammunition and paints religious people with the same broad brush, people who may not share his views and have a more tolerant view of people with alternative lifestyles.

Message deleted.

I think Cameron has to stop. I was watching Full House behind the scenes on Biography this morning. Do you know that Candance Cameron wouldnt say Oh My God? Thats where she got the "Oh, my Lanta" phrase. I mean dont think thats a bit much that she wouldnt say "Oh my God"?

I think Cameron has to stop. I was watching Full House behind the scenes on Biography this morning. Do you know that Candance Cameron wouldnt say Oh My God? Thats where she got the "Oh, my Lanta" phrase. I mean dont think thats a bit much that she wouldnt say "Oh my God"?

Saying God's name when not thinking about Him is using God's name in vein, so no, I don't think that's a bit much.

I think Cameron has to stop. I was watching Full House behind the scenes on Biography this morning. Do you know that Candance Cameron wouldnt say Oh My God? Thats where she got the "Oh, my Lanta" phrase. I mean dont think thats a bit much that she wouldnt say "Oh my God"?

I avoid saying/thinking it too... If I start to, I catch myself out, and say/think "oh my gosh" instead... It doesn't sound/feel right mentioning God, if you take God seriously, as Candace obviously does...

About a year after Cameron's religious awakening with accompanying homophobia, lesbian Dusty Springfield's voice is replaced on the theme song for the show. Is it possible that Cameron played a role in this as he did in the firing of Julie McCullough?

Dusty Springfield. Was that person's theme the theme when the show first started or when the show had that slower theme in the later seasons? And not only that but didnt the original theme come back anyways?

Kirk Cameron claims he is not a homophobe. He is.

I'm a Kirk Cameronphobe.