Who do you think?

IMO... Andy.

But wait, you forgot someone!

Beverly ann imo

Beverly Ann!!! It sucked when she replaced Mrs. G

Pippa was the worst in my opinion.

BEVERLY ANN - She sucked. I dotn get why they wrote her in as a gardian when they were all old. and she wasnt even funny and didnt seem to fit in the show well

mY send choice is Pipa- there is no point in explaining, it was just plain dumb to add her to the show

Bev Ann
:stupid:
Pipa

Pippa.

IMO, they all sucked......

But Beverley Ann was the worst!

Originally posted by NancyRulz24
IMO, they all sucked......

Yeah...except George :cool:

I guess i'm about the only one...but I perssonally LIKED Kelley...i thought she was pretty cool, i mean, for the occasional pain in the ass to Jo, i liked her.

who was kelley?

Pippa and ..... George, sure he was cute, but that doesn't count. :D

AND Kelly!!!

Originally posted by Nancy McKeon fan!
who was kelley?

some hellian who tried to steal from the store but then she became a friend of theirs or something....I dunno I can't remember. I haven't seem FOL in such a long time I'm beginning to forget things

IMO, Pippa was the worst addition!

Beverly Ann

I'm suprised no one has chosen Andy. He wasn't my least favorite, but by the way some people talk about him and Mackenzie Astin on here I thought he'd be right up there...?

OH WELL:wave:





ks

Pippa... she gets on my nerves for some reason. I cant figure out why tho. I liked everybody else! Escpecially George cutie pie!!!!!:rolleyes:

Worst addition to FOL?
1) The producers, etc. who gave them their walking papers in '88.
2) The program director at Nick-at-Nite who dropped them from their weeknight roster.:mad:

Originally posted by Tad Warner
Worst addition to FOL?
1) The producers, etc. who gave them their walking papers in '88.


Yes. :crying:

Kelly. She's the only one where I can't see a reason for her presence on the show. Pippa came because the girls were getting older, and they thought they needed the young girl thing again...kind of like Cousin Oliver on the Brady Bunch. Andy and George, I think, were put there for the male influence which was never very constant on FOL. Beverly Ann was probably added to keep the same basic formula the show started out with: the girls and the older mother figure. Anyways, so that's my conclusion. Kelly had no purpose. Bad addition.

Remember the Simpsons episode where Homer got to play the voice of "Poochie" on the "Itchy and Scratchy Show"? The whole point of the character was merely to look cool without any real bearing on the cartoon premise. It's kind of what I call "The Fonzie Syndrome": On Happy Days, Fonzie was in the beginning a sort of bit character dressed in mechanic's overalls with a very understated, laid back kind of cool (they were afraid to make him look like a hoodlum in his leather jacket just yet). When he became more of a central figure on the show, his coolness dominated, until, by the end of the series, he WAS the main character while Ritchie was nowhere to be seen. I think this was the start of a trend in the late 70's/early 80's where you had to have a non-essential "cool comic effect" type character, whose only purpose was to add sophistication to the show. (One can see that in the "Poochie" episode where a mysterious cool dude named Roy springs up out of nowhere and lays all this hip lingo on Marge and Homer.) Afraid of the girls as being seen as too nerdy and naive, they introduced "streetwise" Kelly for a while, and then Kevin (to increase the sexual tension with the girls--i.e.,
kissing Jo), goofy but handsome George, and of course, Dennis-the-Menace-like Andy with his snappy humor, and finally Pippa,
who was the epitome of "the Fonzie Syndrome"--riding on a wave of popularity of Australian-related themes (the whole Crocodile Dundee/Yahoo Serious bit), the FOL producers felt they needed to boost its sagging ratings by being "culturally relevant"--let's introduce a chick from the outback who speaks in an incomprehensible Aussie lingo for no other purpose than for laughs--though she has no real bearing on the storyline. (I want to make clear that Fonzie was NOT a useless character on HD, but that too many shows felt a need to have a pointless hipster character for cheap laughs-- a Fonzie-type with exaggerated cool.) Unfortunately, it didn't work. I wonder if FOL stayed on for another year or so, they could have witnessed the end of the
Cold War and brought on a chick from Lithuania...

Originally posted by Tad Warner
Remember the Simpsons episode where Homer got to play the voice of "Poochie" on the "Itchy and Scratchy Show"? The whole point of the character was merely to look cool without any real bearing on the cartoon premise. It's kind of what I call "The Fonzie Syndrome": On Happy Days, Fonzie was in the beginning a sort of bit character dressed in mechanic's overalls with a very understated, laid back kind of cool (they were afraid to make him look like a hoodlum in his leather jacket just yet). When he became more of a central figure on the show, his coolness dominated, until, by the end of the series, he WAS the main character while Ritchie was nowhere to be seen. I think this was the start of a trend in the late 70's/early 80's where you had to have a non-essential "cool comic effect" type character, whose only purpose was to add sophistication to the show. (One can see that in the "Poochie" episode where a mysterious cool dude named Roy springs up out of nowhere and lays all this hip lingo on Marge and Homer.) Afraid of the girls as being seen as too nerdy and naive, they introduced "streetwise" Kelly for a while, and then Kevin (to increase the sexual tension with the girls--i.e.,
kissing Jo), goofy but handsome George, and of course, Dennis-the-Menace-like Andy with his snappy humor, and finally Pippa,
who was the epitome of "the Fonzie Syndrome"--riding on a wave of popularity of Australian-related themes (the whole Crocodile Dundee/Yahoo Serious bit), the FOL producers felt they needed to boost its sagging ratings by being "culturally relevant"--let's introduce a chick from the outback who speaks in an incomprehensible Aussie lingo for no other purpose than for laughs--though she has no real bearing on the storyline. (I want to make clear that Fonzie was NOT a useless character on HD, but that too many shows felt a need to have a pointless hipster character for cheap laughs-- a Fonzie-type with exaggerated cool.) Unfortunately, it didn't work. I wonder if FOL stayed on for another year or so, they could have witnessed the end of the
Cold War and brought on a chick from Lithuania...

um.... what the Jesus? lol I'm so lost

Pippa. I hate her in so many ways. That stupid accent...the way she talked about 'head bangin veggie brains' or something like that. Her hair...ew. I just hate her in ever way. They should have shipped her back to Australia in a wooden crate with no food or water so she'd never want to come back to America. Dumb kid.

Originally posted by Nancy McKeon Rox
Pippa. I hate her in so many ways. That stupid accent...the way she talked about 'head bangin veggie brains' or something like that. Her hair...ew. I just hate her in ever way. They should have shipped her back to Australia in a wooden crate with no food or water so she'd never want to come back to America. Dumb kid.

Thats kind of mean but I agree.lol
I understand that they probably wanted a younger girl in the show but why did they have to get such an annoying one?I also don't understand why Kelly was put in the show. :confused:

To Karli, sorry I got you all mixed up. I was basically trying to say that the producers on the show tried to add some "cool" characters who really weren't necessary to the show. They were just there for the laughs and tried to show how "hip" they were.
Case in point: Pippa. It was all because in the late '80's everyone
wass into the "Australia" thing, so they "had to" have an Australian character to prove how cool they were, with all those
goofy Aussie catch-phrases and all. It was a clear sign that FOL
was in deep trouble in the ratings when they had to resort to this.
I personally thought the episode where they introduced Pippa was incredibly lame. Like, gag me with a boomerang...:cool:

Originally posted by Tad Warner
Like, gag me with a boomerang...:cool:

:lol: I thought it was Spoon? Oh well. I'm a late 80's chick

It was a spoon. I thought I'd put a twist on the phrase with a reference to an Australian object. BTW, I wonder if he got gagged with a spoon...:confused:

Originally posted by Tad Warner
BTW, I wonder if he got gagged with a spoon...:confused:

:rotflmao: Do you mean who I think you mean? If you can't configure it, I'll clarify it for you!

To Karli, yes, I do, I guess it's too obvious!!:lol: Boy, we're getting a lot of mileage with that one!!

Originally posted by Tad Warner
To Karli, yes, I do, I guess it's too obvious!!:lol: Boy, we're getting a lot of mileage with that one!!

Oh God... this is all just one big hoot.

And, I mean that in a good way...

http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s2/otn/tongue/flylicker.gif

I forgot all about Pippa! She was friggin awful!!!!And to think I was going to say "Andy"!!!!!Dont even remember Kelly???Were Kelly and Pippa the same person???????Yes Beverly Ann was dreadful. The girls shoulda just taken over at this point:Blair had the dough to fund any venture they woulda wanted to get into:A motorcyle shop for Jo/A roller rink or actors studio for Tootie....actually that gets my vote cuz Nat wrote and Tootie acted!!!!A playhouse that Blair funded and Jo ran!!!!Or was a bouncer for!!!!!

You know, I think for a while that the girls did take over, when Mrs. Garrett was out with George's dad. That was a cool time.
Boy, that would have been a good idea, using Blair's money for
something really cool. Now it's not that I thought Pippa, Andy, or Beverly Ann were awful, but in a lot of ways they just didn't really serve any purpose other than comic relief. Which is one reason
why I think the show started to go downhill at that point. I'm glad to have seen it taped when I did.

Pippa, she was gross. That Australian slut, :lol:!

I liked everyone on the show but if I had to pick someone I'd say Kelly.

I also wasn't that fond of Pippa, but now I actually like her music in rl, go figure?

maybe acting wasn't her thing, hee hee

George and Beverly Ann.

I liked Kelly, Pippa, and Andy.

Bumping for the new people to vote on worse character addition ever on Facts of Life.

So far Pippa is way ahead of Kelly.

I had to pick Andy because at least the others eventually went away. That Urchin is there from season 6 all the way to the end.

And so much Permpa hate in those old posts! Shipping her back to Australia in a crate without food and water is really bad! I can't wait to see if she lives up to it all those intense emotions! :lol:

So far Pippa is way ahead of Kelly.

No she's not, she's only 5 ahead (thanks to my vote for Kelly just now).

I just voted for Beverly Ann. At least Kelly and Permpa lasted less than one season each.

I just voted for Beverly Ann.

I'm shocked you did that.

I kinda wanna report you for doing that. :lol:



:lookaroun

I'm shocked you did that.

I kinda wanna report you for doing that. :lol:


:lol:

I suspected you'd be shocked. But for me, Mrs. Garrett was the heart of the show, the thing that kept it alive. Without Mrs. Garrett, the show kept going... but now in in Zombie Mode. The heart was no longer beating. The soul had moved on.

:lol:

I suspected you'd be shocked. But for me, Mrs. Garrett was the heart of the show, the thing that kept it alive. Without Mrs. Garrett, the show kept going... but now in in Zombie Mode. The heart was no longer beating. The soul had moved on.

But that's just it, Charlotte wanted out so she got out. And she recommended Cloris. They couldn't stop her from leaving. So that was something inevitable.

The others, however, were not inevitable, which makes their additions all the more ridiculous.

I feel you should be nicer to Beverly Ann. :lol:

I'm shocked you did that.

I kinda wanna report you for doing that. :lol:



:lookaroun

Agree! Beverly Ann breathed new life into FOL as Ive said :lol:

Agree! Beverly Ann breathed new life into FOL as Ive said :lol:

Right?

I mean, Pippa...Kelly...

We need to either report him, or get him analyzed, lol. :p

Agree! Beverly Ann breathed new life into FOL as Ive said :lol:

Sure, zombie life.
🧟*♀️

Sure, zombie life.
🧟*♀️

No, she wasn't Gail, she was Beverly Ann. ;)

:p

No, she wasn't Gail, she was Beverly Ann. ;)

:p

It did seem as though Gail had lost the power of speech. But she wasn't d-d-d-d-d d-d-d-d-d.... :lol:

:lol:

Sure, zombie life.
🧟*♀️

Zombie life sure, but the show was really a zombie by s6 anyway

Zombie life sure, but the show was really a zombie by s6 anyway
Nah, S7 was the death.

Nah, S7 was the death.

Blair's hair and the start of Jo's oversized man suits in the season premiere signaled the death knell. :lol:

^---If anyone ever asks why Jo is a gay icon, just show them that photo!

^---If anyone ever asks why Jo is a gay icon, just show them that photo!

And that look on her face seems to show exactly how she feels about it. :lol:

(I know she really doesn't mind it so please no :bash:!)

I'm still recovering from Graduation episode "rock-gate" with valentina lol---:wave:

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And Blair looks like a total POD in that picture. I think this was the beginning of all the POD characters too. So maybe Blair was the first one infected on her season 6 summer vacation and infected the rest of the cast when she got back. :lol:

On Jo, lol, I know, it is a funny slump and expression!

Blair's hair and the start of Jo's oversized man suits in the season premiere signaled the death knell. :lol:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

When more attention is paid to the hair than the script, you know there are problems.

And Blair looks like a total POD in that picture. I think this was the beginning of all the POD characters too. So maybe Blair was the first one infected on her season 6 summer vacation and infected the rest of the cast when she got back. :lol:


But BLAIR was not a POD on season 6 yet! In fact, she had a whole episode to herself: 'Working it out' (as a matter of fact it's a BLAIR and MRS G episode).
I know we might not agree on that one AGAIN, but especially on that episode you can see the great CHEMISTRY/DYNAMIC between MRS G and BLAIR: there is a [I]mother/daughter chemistry between those two when they argue, and so much fire!!!!
And i really don't think that BLAIR meant to call her that infamous line LANDLADY: i am convinced, that when she told to MRS G that she wasn't her mother, guardian and conscience it's because on the contrary, BLAIR felt that MRS G was those exactly3 things to her (a mother, guardian and DEFINITELY her conscience) but was too angry at the time. A angry person say lots of things they regret later on.

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

Blair's hair and the start of Jo's oversized man suits in the season premiere signaled the death knell. :lol:

:rofl:

I just voted for Beverly Ann. At least Kelly and Permpa lasted less than one season each.


Do you realize now that you're gonna get a slap from cfr1970 by voting BEVERLY ANN out!!!!:nonono::nonono::nonono:

I had to pick Andy because at least the others eventually went away. That Urchin is there from season 6 all the way to the end.

And so much Permpa hate in those old posts! Shipping her back to Australia in a crate without food and water is really bad! I can't wait to see if she lives up to it all those intense emotions! :lol:


I knew you'd pick ANDY:lol::lol::lol: (i vote him out too ha ha!)

:jar::jar::jar:

I voted for Beverly Ann. Cloris Leachman is a good actress on other shows, but her character was not needed here. It is too bad Charlotte Rae didn't want to stay for the whole run, but Mrs. Garrett should not have had a replacement at this point. The four main girls could take care of Over Our Heads on their own now, Blair and Jo were long grown and Natalie might have been too. I haven't seen as much of the later seasons, did Natalie and Tootie graduate from Eastland during the show? It is really too bad Edna's Edibles was replaced after just two seasons with Over Our Heads though, Edna's Edibles was a much more appealing location. Kelly was a horrible character, but thankfully she didn't last long. I saw her opening episode from season 5 in the marathon, next one I saw an hour later that actress' name was already out of the opening credits. Pippa seems to get a lot of hate here, but I must not have seen her episodes much. George I like, and I don't mind Andy like some.

And that look on her face seems to show exactly how she feels about it.

(I know she really doesn't mind it so please no !)

I'm still recovering from Graduation episode "rock-gate" with valentina lol---:wave:

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Hey cfr1970 i hope you have recovered about the 'rock gate?' (i know we both have different point of views SOMETIMES, but there is no need to get upset):wasntme:

I can tell by all your reviews that the AUSTRALIA movie with the FOL gang was a fiasco?????

I watched 'XMAS BABY last night, and i must say it my definitely my FAVOURITE episode on season 7!!!!

I LOVED how BLAIR handled her mother's pregnancy well, and how she took the role as MONICA's mother herself: she was so caring and sweet with her mum, watching what she ate, how she moved, sat (in fact i bet she'll be a pretty tough mum to her own kids herself some day!):rofl::rofl:

And when MONICA gets up to boogie with GEORGE that was so cool! ("i still got it, rock n roll!" she says ha ha!):jig::jig:

The scene when JO hands her pressies to everyone also cracked me up!
Nat: "That's nice Jo! I don't know what to say? Did you keep the receipt?"
:brent:brent:

The scenes at the hospital where the bests though!
Nurse with the chair (addressing to MONICA and pointing towards BLAIR): "is this your daughter?"
Monica: "yes."
Nurse with the chair: "i sure hope this one is a BOY!"
:rotflmao::rotflmao:

I also loved the scene between MRS G and BLAIR: it was so sweet how she came over to MRS G and asks her to pray with her for the baby!!! (in a way i felt that was the last time they ever had a 'heart to heart' talk, before finally they both become PODS):crybaby::crybaby:

PS: what i DEFINITELY didn't like was the final scene with MINI SANTA KLAUS STREET URCHIN!!!!!
TOOTIE made up for it though: "i thought you were TALLER.":clap:

:violin::violin:

Hey cfr1970 i hope you have recovered about the 'rock gate?' (i know we both have different point of views SOMETIMES, but there is no need to get upset):wasntme:

I can tell by all your reviews that the AUSTRALIA movie with the FOL gang was a fiasco?????

I watched 'XMAS BABY last night, and i must say it my definitely my FAVOURITE episode on season 7!!!!

I LOVED how BLAIR handled her mother's pregnancy well, and how she took the role as MONICA's mother herself: she was so caring and sweet with her mum, watching what she ate, how she moved, sat (in fact i bet she'll be a pretty tough mum to her own kids herself some day!):rofl::rofl:

And when MONICA gets up to boogie with GEORGE that was so cool! ("i still got it, rock n roll!" she says ha ha!):jig::jig:

The scene when JO hands her pressies to everyone also cracked me up!
Nat: "That's nice Jo! I don't know what to say? Did you keep the receipt?"
:brent:brent:

The scenes at the hospital where the bests though!
Nurse with the chair (addressing to MONICA and pointing towards BLAIR): "is this your daughter?"
Monica: "yes."
Nurse with the chair: "i sure hope this one is a BOY!"
:rotflmao:

I also loved the scene between MRS G and BLAIR: it was so sweet how she came over to MRS G and asks her to pray with her for the baby!!! (in a way i felt that was the last time they ever had a 'heart to heart' talk, before finally they both become PODS):crybaby::crybaby:

PS: what i DEFINITELY didn't like was the final scene with MINI SANTA KLAUS STREET URCHIN!!!!!
TOOTIE made up for it though: "i thought you were TALLER.":clap:

:violin::violin:

Christmas Baby was a good one. Quite a few season 7 episodes were good, with just a few small slumps. The only thing I didn't like was Urchin being at the hospital at 3am with the group! Did he climb out his window because the group surely didn't bring him there...he just walks in the hospital at 3am...12 years old and no supervision! :eek:

And did you see Jo go crazy in the hospital at all? Of course not...because she wasn't a POD yet. :lol:

Still a good episode where Blair brings her baby sister into the world, and doesn't go into Bootsie POD mode about how messy it all will be. I'm glad they didn't go down that road with it and kept her normal.

I voted for Beverly Ann. Cloris Leachman is a good actress on other shows, but her character was not needed here.

Well said, Catsrule. It's not that Cloris wasn't a good actress; she certainly was. But her character was unnecessary. At more than one point, she even realizes it herself. Which... speaks volumes.


It is too bad Charlotte Rae didn't want to stay for the whole run, but Mrs. Garrett should not have had a replacement at this point. The four main girls could take care of Over Our Heads on their own now, Blair and Jo were long grown and Natalie might have been too.

Yep. All four of them were fully grown. No need for a Mrs. Garrett replacement, if we couldn't have Mrs. Garrett herself.


I haven't seen as much of the later seasons, did Natalie and Tootie graduate from Eastland during the show?

Yes. Natalie graduated in episode 6-25, in May 1985, and Tootie graduated the following year, in 7-25, May 1986. Then there were two more seasons of the show.


It is really too bad Edna's Edibles was replaced after just two seasons with Over Our Heads though, Edna's Edibles was a much more appealing location.

Yeah, I'd definitely have some of Edna's delicious baked goods over whatever the heck they were selling in the junk shop.

Well said, Catsrule. It's not that Cloris wasn't a good actress; she certainly was. But her character was unnecessary...All four of them were fully grown. No need for a Mrs. Garrett replacement, if we couldn't have Mrs. Garrett herself.

I assume they found it necessary to have an adult on-site for managing the house and the store. Not a barely-adult-adult like the girls, but a grown-ass woman with some years behind her, lol. Someone who wouldn't just up and leave the nest. So I do understand that.

Yes. Natalie graduated in episode 6-25, in May 1985, and Tootie graduated the following year, in 7-25, May 1986. Then there were two more seasons of the show.
It is too bad Antenna TV didn't include those episodes as part of Sunday's marathon instead of the icky strip club one at 8:30 in primetime. I skipped that hour with Heartland being new on my My Network TV affiliate, but my mom saw part of that FOL, said it was revolting and turned it off. FOL isn't usually that racy.

Kelly. She's the only one where I can't see a reason for her presence on the show. Pippa came because the girls were getting older, and they thought they needed the young girl thing again...kind of like Cousin Oliver on the Brady Bunch. Andy and George, I think, were put there for the male influence which was never very constant on FOL. Beverly Ann was probably added to keep the same basic formula the show started out with: the girls and the older mother figure. Anyways, so that's my conclusion. Kelly had no purpose. Bad addition.

I agree with you. I liked Beverly Ann, George, Andy and Pippa. I liked Kelly too, but she was my least favorite, so I voted for her.

It is interesting that Kelly commits the most heinous crime in humankind---hurting Mrs. Garrett---(by vandalizing her store)---and Pippa was just a schoolgirl exchange student who never hurt anyone. Yet at the time of this poll, she soared to the top of the HATRED charts, lol. Ouch!

It is interesting that Kelly commits the most heinous crime in humankind---hurting Mrs. Garrett---(by vandalizing her store)---and Pippa was just a schoolgirl exchange student who never hurt anyone. Yet at the time of this poll, she soared to the top of the HATRED charts, lol. Ouch!


I liked PIPPA! (i'm the only one who does in fact):wave::wave::wave:

I liked PIPPA! (i'm the only one who does in fact):wave::wave::wave:

Hi, valentina warner! :wave:

You are not the only one who likes Pippa. I like her too.