Let's go down the list of "suspects", shall we?


Mark Nichols - Christi Jo Nichols' husband. He seemed a little too calm during his interview. He even knew of everything she had allegedly taken with her and lied to her mom about where she was. He is guilty to me.

Judy Groezinger - Mark Groezinger's wife. She purchased a .38 revolver shortly before Mark's murder, the same weapon used to kill him, but it was never found. Police believed Mark's death to be a crime of passion and Judy is still a person of interest. She is guilty to me, and I believe she killed him or had someone else kill him so she could cash in on his life insurance and run away with a female lover.

Stephen Marfeo - Doreen Marfeo's husband. He wildly believed she was cheating on him despite no proof and she remains missing. Stephen later killed himself after shooting an ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend. He is guilty to me. especially after his latter actions.

Steve Page - Kathy Page's husband. She was oddly found dead in her car in a ditch yards from her home. Steve claimed the Mafia killed her, but his story is far-fetched. It was said that he had raped her and then killed her before placing her in the car. I think he is guilty.

Jeremy Witherell - Michelle Witherell's husband. They allegedly were heard arguing in their apartment shortly before her death. Jeremy told Michelle's parents 3 different stories on what happened, including that she fell while stringing Christmas lights along the balcony. He was charged in her death 7 years to the day but was later acquitted. I still think he is guilty considering her injuries were sustained before being tossed off the balcony, leading me to believe she was struck in the head by Jeremy before falling.

Larry Race - Debby Race's husband. He allegedly left her stranded in a inflatable raft in Lake Superior and she later died from hypothermia. He was later charged and spent 22 years in prison before being released in 2005. I have mixed views on this one. Part of me says he killed her to continue his "promiscuous" lifestyle, while another part thinks he might be truthful.

Paul Pollis - Charlotte Pollis' husband. Their daughter said she saw her father put her mother in a black trash bag. He can't even say where he was the morning she vanished. I think he is guilty considering his family helped cover up the truth.

Chad Noe - Wendy Camp's ex-husband. He demanded full custody of their son Jonathan after Wendy's multiple sclerosis made her too ill to care for him. She later married Leon Camp and felt better enough to seek visitation rights to see Jonathan. Chad sabotaged these visits and accused Leon of molesting Jonathan, but that was later disproven. Chad suddenly let Wendy come to see Jonathan one day and she brought along her daughter Cynthia from her first marriage and her sister-in-law Lisa. They later vanished after Chad's mom and grandmother said they dropped the three off at Wal-Mart after an argument. I think Chad and his family are guilty, considering that his mom and grandma have had brushes with the law for arson amongst other things and Chad even bragged to people at a bar that he killed Wendy, Cynthia and Lisa and disposed them somewhere where they won't be found.

Robert Bonderson - Kathy Bonderson's husband. They had an argument shortly before she was found dead inside her burned-out car on a gravel road outside of town. Gasoline has been used to start the fire and police suspected Robert of the murder. They re-opened the investigation in 2006 and after questioning Robert, he vanished and committed suicide in a cabin in the Montana wilderness. I think he is guilty, considering he killed himself to possibly avoid any punishment in his wife's death.

Jeffrey MacDonald - convicted in 1979 of the 1970 stabbing deaths of his wife and 2 daughters. He allegeded that 4 hippies, including a young woman, attacked his family for drugs. The woman in question, Helena Stoeckley, had admitted to being at the household around the time of the murders along with 3 accomplices but was never charged with a crime and she later died of cirrhosis. I think Jeffrey is guilty seeing as his injuries weren't as severe as the ones afflicted to his wife and daughters and his story is hard to me to fully believe.

Tommy Ziegler - convicted of murdering his wife, her parents and another individual inside the furniture store he owned. I am torn on both sides on this one. It seems to me that someone else was involved whether directly or indirectly involved with Tommy Zeigler. Investigation and new DNA evidence testing is still ongoing.

Alfredo Newball - Cecilia Newball's second husband. She allegedly left to be with a lover, but others see that as unlikely and a co-worker of Alfredo's supposedly wrote the notes she allegedly sent and also made the phone calls to him as well. Police believe due to this that Alfredo might be involved in her disappearance. I think Alfredo and Cecilia may have had an unhappy marriage and he did away with her and her son Rene Perez from a previous marriage.

Don Sherman - Linda Sherman's husband. Her skull was found 5 years after her disappearance outside a restaurant her husband had frequented. She was last seen alive by her daughter one morning in 1985 as she went to school. I think Don killed Linda and then planted her skull outside the restaurant to make it look like someone else was trying to frame him.

Leonard Rizzo - Monika Rizzo's husband. Her bones were subsequently found and identified in the backyard of their own home. The caller who reported the bones is still a mystery. Leonard was charged years later in attacking and threatening to kill a girlfriend of his. I think he is guilty and took a wood chipper to Monika and disposed of her in the backyard.

Robert Webster - Niqui McCown's fiance. He demanded a full refund on their wedding after she vanished and claimed he wanted to use the money to help search for her. I feel he is somewhat involved considering his actions but a former cop who is now deceased is another likely suspect.

Jim Harrison - Susan Harrison's husband. One of Susan's son witnessed arguing between the two and Jim alleged that Susan would get drunk and belligerent and hit him. I think he is guilty considering that she was later found dead and there was speculation that Susan was being abused by Jim.

Mike Morris - Mary McGinnis Morris' husband. He got paranoid that she was seeing someone else even though there was no proof of an affair. Mary was later found beaten and shot to death in her car minutes after calling police. I think Mike is guilty seeing as another woman with the same first and last name was killed days apart from Mary McGinnis Morris' murder and a hitman is suspected of killing both, killing the wrong Mary the first time. Mike also didn't let their daughter talk to police, stonewalling their investigation.

Steve Bechtel - Amy Bechtel's husband. A friend of Amy's noticed bruises on her that Amy later explained came from Steve. Steve had dark journal entries about control and obsession. He refused a lie detector test and was a little smirky during his interview. I feel he is somewhat involved in Amy's disappearance but there is speculation that a serial killer abducted and murdered her.


Let me know if I've missed any suspicious spouses/exes and I'll give my opinion on them. Meanwhile, tell me what you think about these suspects and why or why not they're guilty.

Let's go down the list of "suspects", shall we?


Mark Nichols - Christi Jo Nichols' husband. He seemed a little too calm during his interview. He even knew of everything she had allegedly taken with her and lied to her mom about where she was. He is guilty to me.

Judy Groezinger - Mark Groezinger's wife. She purchased a .38 revolver shortly before Mark's murder, the same weapon used to kill him, but it was never found. Police believed Mark's death to be a crime of passion and Judy is still a person of interest. She is guilty to me, and I believe she killed him or had someone else kill him so she could cash in on his life insurance and run away with a female lover.

Stephen Marfeo - Doreen Marfeo's husband. He wildly believed she was cheating on him despite no proof and she remains missing. Stephen later killed himself after shooting an ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend. He is guilty to me. especially after his latter actions.

Steve Page - Kathy Page's husband. She was oddly found dead in her car in a ditch yards from her home. Steve claimed the Mafia killed her, but his story is far-fetched. It was said that he had raped her and then killed her before placing her in the car. I think he is guilty.

Jeremy Witherell - Michelle Witherell's husband. They allegedly were heard arguing in their apartment shortly before her death. Jeremy told Michelle's parents 3 different stories on what happened, including that she fell while stringing Christmas lights along the balcony. He was charged in her death 7 years to the day but was later acquitted. I still think he is guilty considering her injuries were sustained before being tossed off the balcony, leading me to believe she was struck in the head by Jeremy before falling.

Larry Race - Debby Race's husband. He allegedly left her stranded in a inflatable raft in Lake Superior and she later died from hypothermia. He was later charged and spent 22 years in prison before being released in 2005. I have mixed views on this one. Part of me says he killed her to continue his "promiscuous" lifestyle, while another part thinks he might be truthful.

Paul Pollis - Charlottle Pollis' husband. Their daughter said she saw her father put her mother in a black trash bag. He can't even say where he was the morning she vanished. I think he is guilty considering his family helped cover up the truth.

Chad Noe - Wendy Camp's ex-husband. He demanded full custody of their son Jonathan after Wendy's multiple sclerosis made her too ill to care for him. She later married Leon Camp and felt better enough to seek visitation rights to see Jonathan. Chad sabotaged these visits and accused Leon of molesting Jonathan, but that was later disproven. Chad suddenly let Wendy come to see Jonathan one day and she brought along her daughter Cynthia from her first marriage and her sister-in-law Lisa. They later vanished after Chad's mom and grandmother said they dropped the three off at Wal-Mart after an argument. I think Chad and his family are guilty, considering that his mom and grandma have had brushes with the law for arson amongst other things and Chad even bragged to people at a bar that he killed Wendy, Cynthia and Lisa and disposed them somewhere where they won't be found.

Robert Bonderson - Kathy Bonderson's husband. They had an argument shortly before she was found dead inside her burned-out car on a gravel road outside of town. Gasoline has been used to start the fire and police suspected Robert of the murder. They re-opened the investigation in 2006 and after questioning Robert, he vanished and committed suicide in a cabin in the Montana wilderness. I think he is guilty, considering he killed himself to possibly avoid any punishment in his wife's death.

Jeffrey MacDonald - convicted in 1979 of the 1970 stabbing deaths of his wife and 2 daughters. He allegeded that 4 hippies, including a young woman, attacked his family for drugs. The woman in question, Helena Stoeckley, had admitted to being at the household around the time of the murders along with 3 accomplices but was never charged with a crime and she later died of cirrhosis. I think Jeffrey is guilty seeing as his injuries weren't as severe as the ones afflicted to his wife and daughters and his story is hard to me to fully believe.

Tommy Ziegler - convicted of murdering his wife, her parents and another individual inside the furniture store he owned. I am torn on both sides on this one. It seems to me that someone else was involved whether directly or indirectly involved with Tommy Zeigler. Investigation and new DNA evidence testing is still ongoing.

Alfredo Newball - Cecilia Newball's second husband. She allegedly left to be with a lover, but others see that as unlikely and a co-worker of Alfredo's supposedly wrote the notes she allegedly sent and also made the phone calls to him as well. Police believe due to this that Alfredo might be involved in her disappearance. I think Alfredo and Cecilia may have had an unhappy marriage and he did away with her and her son Rene Perez from a previous marriage.

Don Sherman - Linda Sherman's husband. Her skull was found 5 years after her disappearance outside a restaurant her husband had frequented. She was last seen alive by her daughter one morning in 1985 as she went to school. I think Don killed Linda and then planted her skull outside the restaurant to make it look like someone else was trying to frame him.

Leonard Rizzo - Monika Rizzo's husband. Her bones were subsequently found and identified in the backyard of their own home. The caller who reported the bones is still a mystery. Leonard was charged years later in attacking and threatening to kill a girlfriend of his. I think he is guilty and took a wood chipper to Monika and disposed of her in the backyard.


Let me know if I've missed any suspicious spouses/exes and I'll give my opinion on them. Meanwhile, tell me what you think about these suspects and why or why not they're guilty.

Like many people on these boards, I'm very much on the fence about Larry Race, though I've always leaned more towards him not being guilty.

I never had a strong feeling that Robert Bonderson killed his wife. However, I did not know until reading your post just now that he committed suicide after being questioned again, so now I definitely think that he could be guilty.

I strongly believe that Alfredo Newball is innocent.

Hard to know for sure, but based on some of the circumstances of the case, I have a fairly strong feeling of Tommy Zeigler being guilty.

I strongly agree with your opinions on all of the others that you mentioned.

I think all of those listed are guilty with the exceptions being Tommy Zeigler and Alfredo Newball. I do however, think there is a case for Paul Pollis's innocence but I've always been on the fence with him.

Let's go down the list of "suspects", shall we?


Mark Nichols - Christi Jo Nichols' husband. He seemed a little too calm during his interview. He even knew of everything she had allegedly taken with her and lied to her mom about where she was. He is guilty to me.

Judy Groezinger - Mark Groezinger's wife. She purchased a .38 revolver shortly before Mark's murder, the same weapon used to kill him, but it was never found. Police believed Mark's death to be a crime of passion and Judy is still a person of interest. She is guilty to me, and I believe she killed him or had someone else kill him so she could cash in on his life insurance and run away with a female lover.

Stephen Marfeo - Doreen Marfeo's husband. He wildly believed she was cheating on him despite no proof and she remains missing. Stephen later killed himself after shooting an ex-girlfriend and her boyfriend. He is guilty to me. especially after his latter actions.

Steve Page - Kathy Page's husband. She was oddly found dead in her car in a ditch yards from her home. Steve claimed the Mafia killed her, but his story is far-fetched. It was said that he had raped her and then killed her before placing her in the car. I think he is guilty.

Jeremy Witherell - Michelle Witherell's husband. They allegedly were heard arguing in their apartment shortly before her death. Jeremy told Michelle's parents 3 different stories on what happened, including that she fell while stringing Christmas lights along the balcony. He was charged in her death 7 years to the day but was later acquitted. I still think he is guilty considering her injuries were sustained before being tossed off the balcony, leading me to believe she was struck in the head by Jeremy before falling.

Larry Race - Debby Race's husband. He allegedly left her stranded in a inflatable raft in Lake Superior and she later died from hypothermia. He was later charged and spent 22 years in prison before being released in 2005. I have mixed views on this one. Part of me says he killed her to continue his "promiscuous" lifestyle, while another part thinks he might be truthful.

Paul Pollis - Charlotte Pollis' husband. Their daughter said she saw her father put her mother in a black trash bag. He can't even say where he was the morning she vanished. I think he is guilty considering his family helped cover up the truth.

Chad Noe - Wendy Camp's ex-husband. He demanded full custody of their son Jonathan after Wendy's multiple sclerosis made her too ill to care for him. She later married Leon Camp and felt better enough to seek visitation rights to see Jonathan. Chad sabotaged these visits and accused Leon of molesting Jonathan, but that was later disproven. Chad suddenly let Wendy come to see Jonathan one day and she brought along her daughter Cynthia from her first marriage and her sister-in-law Lisa. They later vanished after Chad's mom and grandmother said they dropped the three off at Wal-Mart after an argument. I think Chad and his family are guilty, considering that his mom and grandma have had brushes with the law for arson amongst other things and Chad even bragged to people at a bar that he killed Wendy, Cynthia and Lisa and disposed them somewhere where they won't be found.

Robert Bonderson - Kathy Bonderson's husband. They had an argument shortly before she was found dead inside her burned-out car on a gravel road outside of town. Gasoline has been used to start the fire and police suspected Robert of the murder. They re-opened the investigation in 2006 and after questioning Robert, he vanished and committed suicide in a cabin in the Montana wilderness. I think he is guilty, considering he killed himself to possibly avoid any punishment in his wife's death.

Jeffrey MacDonald - convicted in 1979 of the 1970 stabbing deaths of his wife and 2 daughters. He allegeded that 4 hippies, including a young woman, attacked his family for drugs. The woman in question, Helena Stoeckley, had admitted to being at the household around the time of the murders along with 3 accomplices but was never charged with a crime and she later died of cirrhosis. I think Jeffrey is guilty seeing as his injuries weren't as severe as the ones afflicted to his wife and daughters and his story is hard to me to fully believe.

Tommy Ziegler - convicted of murdering his wife, her parents and another individual inside the furniture store he owned. I am torn on both sides on this one. It seems to me that someone else was involved whether directly or indirectly involved with Tommy Zeigler. Investigation and new DNA evidence testing is still ongoing.

Alfredo Newball - Cecilia Newball's second husband. She allegedly left to be with a lover, but others see that as unlikely and a co-worker of Alfredo's supposedly wrote the notes she allegedly sent and also made the phone calls to him as well. Police believe due to this that Alfredo might be involved in her disappearance. I think Alfredo and Cecilia may have had an unhappy marriage and he did away with her and her son Rene Perez from a previous marriage.

Don Sherman - Linda Sherman's husband. Her skull was found 5 years after her disappearance outside a restaurant her husband had frequented. She was last seen alive by her daughter one morning in 1985 as she went to school. I think Don killed Linda and then planted her skull outside the restaurant to make it look like someone else was trying to frame him.

Leonard Rizzo - Monika Rizzo's husband. Her bones were subsequently found and identified in the backyard of their own home. The caller who reported the bones is still a mystery. Leonard was charged years later in attacking and threatening to kill a girlfriend of his. I think he is guilty and took a wood chipper to Monika and disposed of her in the backyard.


Let me know if I've missed any suspicious spouses/exes and I'll give my opinion on them. Meanwhile, tell me what you think about these suspects and why or why not they're guilty.

I know of somebody who probably deserves mention here: Robert Webster from the Marilyn "Niqui" McCown segment. I'm on the fence about him but I tend to lean more towards him being guilty.

There's not a lot of strong evidence to suggest that he definitely did it, and there were a couple of instances that may point to the involvement of an ex-boyfriend and a couple of jerks from the laundromat, but some of his behavior following the disappearance was VERY unusual, and I can't seem to come up with a good reason why he did some of the things that he did.

For starters, why completely cancel a wedding and demand back all of the money that went into the planning of it? Unless evidence of Niqui's death had surfaced, a postponement would have been enough, and I thought that his excuse of needing the money to search for his fiance was a bit weak, because unless he was planning to have an investigator do all the hard work, I otherwise don't see why all that money would be necessary in the situation.

Second, it was revealed that he's known to have a fiery temper. When he tried to return the wedding ring, he gave the jewelry clerk such a hard time that he had to be forcefully escorted from the store.

Third, out of the many people in his position who have appeared on UM to discuss their side of the story, he definitely did not come off as one of the more likeable that I've seen. Like some other notably guilty people on UM (Nichols, Pollis, etc.) he came across as a bit too calm and even a bit cocky.

Finally, an interesting circumstance that doesn't often happen in cases like this and only serves to make it more confusing is that there is dissension among Niqui's family members about his guilt or innocence. At least one of her sisters doesn't think that he did it, but her mother isn't so sure.

I know of somebody who probably deserves mention here: Robert Webster from the Marilyn "Niqui" McCown segment. I'm on the fence about him but I tend to lean more towards him being guilty.

There's not a lot of strong evidence to suggest that he definitely did it, and there were a couple of instances that may point to the involvement of an ex-boyfriend and a couple of jerks from the laundromat, but some of his behavior following the disappearance was VERY unusual, and I can't seem to come up with a good reason why he did some of the things that he did.

For starters, why completely cancel a wedding and demand back all of the money that went into the planning of it? Unless evidence of Niqui's death had surfaced, a postponement would have been enough, and I thought that his excuse of needing the money to search for his fiance was a bit weak, because unless he was planning to have an investigator do all the hard work, I otherwise don't see why all that money would be necessary in the situation.


I used to think Bobby Webster was a likely suspect, but after everything I've read about this case, I'm pretty convinced it was Tommy Swint who killed Niqui. Unfortunately, he committed suicide after being indicted for another murder, so we'll probably never know for sure.

I suspect that Bobby was either a major cheapskate, or he had gotten cold feet about the engagement and was planning to break it off with Niqui sometime down the line anyway. Her disappearance suddenly gave him a convenient excuse to cancel the wedding without having to end the relationship, and he could try and get his money back to boot. Not exactly classy behaviour, to be sure, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

Other suspects not already listed here:

Bob Hall: Convicted of running over with his wife, Kay, but has always maintained his innocence and later released from prison on an Alford Plea and sentenced to 15 years probation. One of the suspects I've always been most unsure about, as there's plenty of evidence that points to him, but he had a very narrow timeline to commit the murder and it's never been explained what Kay was doing at that location or how Bob knew she was there.

Jim Harrison: Suspected of murdering his wife, Susan. Was never been charged and has since passed away, but due to his suspected history of abuse, it's very likely he's guilty.

Steve Bechtel: A suspect in the disappearance of his wife, Amy, due to some dark writings in his journal, unfounded rumours about a possible abusive relationship and his refusal to take a lie detector test. However, I've never thought there was any compelling evidence that he was guilty and believe that the police just had a severe case of tunnel vision.

Mike Morris: The Mary Morris murders is one of the most controversial cases around here and has a number of interesting suspects. However, the second Mary's husband, Mike, has never been able to convincingly explain a four-minute call he made to her cell phone around the time she was murdered, so I remain convinced he had someone murder his wife.

Al Henderson: A suspect in the disappearance of his fiancee, Jean Moore. He seemed nicer and more sincere than most of the other suspects interviewed on UM, but I dunno, he did have quite a few holes and incosistencies in his story that prevents me from being convinced of his innocence. I believe he's since passed away, so we'll probably never know for sure.

Rob Page: Suspected in the disappearance of his wife, Pamela. Did a lot of incredibly suspicious things, like forging a letter from her and changing his stories several times, so I'm more than convinced she's guilty. Never even appeared on camera to be interviewed on UM passed away of cancer not too long ago without confessing anything.

I believe everyone on your list to be guilty except Larry Race and Tommy Ziegler and I have doubts about them.

I used to think Bobby Webster was a likely suspect, but after everything I've read about this case, I'm pretty convinced it was Tommy Swint who killed Niqui. Unfortunately, he committed suicide after being indicted for another murder, so we'll probably never know for sure.

I suspect that Bobby was either a major cheapskate, or he had gotten cold feet about the engagement and was planning to break it off with Niqui sometime down the line anyway. Her disappearance suddenly gave him a convenient excuse to cancel the wedding without having to end the relationship, and he could try and get his money back to boot. Not exactly classy behaviour, to be sure, but it doesn't make him a murderer.

Well, I suppose you're right. I guess one advantage that a lot of you more frequent posters have that I don't is that you seem to know where to go to find more current information about cases. When I explain my opinion of something, I'm usually going on what I know from the segment.

I know of somebody who probably deserves mention here: Robert Webster from the Marilyn "Niqui" McCown segment. I'm on the fence about him but I tend to lean more towards him being guilty.

There's not a lot of strong evidence to suggest that he definitely did it, and there were a couple of instances that may point to the involvement of an ex-boyfriend and a couple of jerks from the laundromat, but some of his behavior following the disappearance was VERY unusual, and I can't seem to come up with a good reason why he did some of the things that he did.

For starters, why completely cancel a wedding and demand back all of the money that went into the planning of it? Unless evidence of Niqui's death had surfaced, a postponement would have been enough, and I thought that his excuse of needing the money to search for his fiance was a bit weak, because unless he was planning to have an investigator do all the hard work, I otherwise don't see why all that money would be necessary in the situation.

Second, it was revealed that he's known to have a fiery temper. When he tried to return the wedding ring, he gave the jewelry clerk such a hard time that he had to be forcefully escorted from the store.

Third, out of the many people in his position who have appeared on UM to discuss their side of the story, he definitely did not come off as one of the more likeable that I've seen. Like some other notably guilty people on UM (Nichols, Pollis, etc.) he came across as a bit too calm and even a bit cocky.

Finally, an interesting circumstance that doesn't often happen in cases like this and only serves to make it more confusing is that there is dissension among Niqui's family members about his guilt or innocence. At least one of her sisters doesn't think that he did it, but her mother isn't so sure.

I watched the "Disappeared" episode on Niqui and here's my analysis that I posted in another thread:

It seems fairly obvious what happened to Niqui now. The "harassers at the laundrymat abducted her" theory can easily be refuted. Here's a quote from a news article about the case from 2008:

"Initially Niqui's family thought she was abducted from the laundromat where some men had been harassing her. Richmond Police eliminated that theory based on surveillance tape from a nearby convenience store. "When she's leaving the facility there I can tell she's under no duress whatsoever," said Detective Roger Redmond, of the Richmond Police Department. "I can probably give you a 100-percent surety she was not taken from the laundromat," he told 13 Investigates."

I also don't believe that Bobby Webster (Niqui's fiance) had anything to do with the case. For one, he had an solid alibi the day she disappeared (he was trying on tuxedo's with his best man for the wedding). Secondly he never really had any motive in killing Niqui. Had he wanted out of the wedding he simply could have told her so. And he certainly wouldn't be interested in trying on tuxedos. Another reason is what Niqui's sister said in her UM interview, that only the "Devil himself" would have been able to parade around her entire family and keep up the front of the concerned fiance. Unless Bobby was one hell of an actor, I don't see how or why he would still keep in contact with the family and also continue to help look for her. Usually when a spouse kills their spouse they tend to avoid their loved ones' family. And the car that Niqui was driving when she disappeared was registered to Bobby, not such a smart choice for him (if he were truely responsible) to blatantly leave the car out in the open when he was the one registered to it. Lastly, there is zero physical or circumstantial evidence that points to Bobby being responsible. The lie detector test that Bobby took is a moot point, IMHO. According to the detective interviewed on UM Bobby only failed the one question (albeit was a crucial one), but we all know how unreliable a lie detector test can be.

The ex-boyfriend of Niqui's was eliminated by LE as a suspect. He had an airtight alibi the day she disappeared and he also cooperated fully with the investigation. It's safe to say he had nothing to do with it as well. But why was her car found in the apartment complex parking lot that he and Niqui used to share? Enter Tommy Swint.

Swint and Niqui worked together at a prison, and according to Niqui's sister these two were "more than friends" on a couple of occasions. In other words, she was having an affair with Swint. I believe the "coworker" (that UM referred to towards the end of the segment) that Niqui called from the payphone was Swint, or someone both Swint and Nicqui knew. Perhaps she set up a meeting with Swint to break off the affair once and for all, and this is what led to her death. And after he killed her, he decides to ditch her car at her ex-boyfriend's apartment complex to throw the suspicioun on him. It's safe to assume that since Swint and Niqui were having an affair that she intimated to him where she used to live with her ex-boyfriend. I think it's possible that the car was vandalized by a random theif well after Swint abandoned the car there. That would explain the broken lock on the door, and the missing stereo system. Or there's also the possibility that this was all staged by Swint to make it look like a robbery gone bad. Or it's possible that Swint ditched the car elsewhere and a carjacker happened upon it and in a remarkable coincidence abandoned it where her ex-boyfriend lived (after stealing the stereo system, etc.).

As I stated above, Niqui's sister confirmed that there was an affair and if Niqui in fact told him she wanted to end it (which seems obvious since she was making all of these wedding plans and intended on marrying Bobby Webster) this gives him a motive. He also refused to take a polygraph while the other two potential suspects both consented to one. The big clincher for Swint being responsible is that he was indicted for another murder (that took place in 1991), but before police could serve the warrant, Swint killed himself. So we may never know for certain whether or not Swint was involved in the disappearance of Niqui McCown, but IMHO all roads point to him being responsible. Unfortunately, since Niqui's sister remained tight lipped about her affair with Swint so long, he never became a POI until 2007. Had she spoke out earlier, this case may have been solved by now.

I watched the "Disappeared" episode on Niqui and here's my analysis that I posted in another thread:

You were posting at the same time I was, so I didn't get this in in enough time for you, but I had mentioned to another poster that some of the more frequent and well-established posters (such as yourself) probably have a lot of resources for finding more current information for some cases, but when I'm explaining my thoughts and opinions, I'm usually going by what I know from the segment, so if there was a crucial break in a case that came after UM profiled the case, I may not always know about it.

You were posting at the same time I was, so I didn't get this in in enough time for you, but I had mentioned to another poster that some of the more frequent and well-established posters (such as yourself) probably have a lot of resources for finding more current information for some cases, but when I'm explaining my thoughts and opinions, I'm usually going by what I know from the segment, so if there was a crucial break in a case that came after UM profiled the case, I may not always know about it.

I hope you didn't take it that I was trying to debate or refute your opinions in any way. I was simply relaying information that UM left out. I thought the same way after viewing certain segments, especially when that's the only information there is to go on. I just figured it would be neat to share with others (who didn't see anything outside of the UM segment) information that has came to light since.

Other suspects not already listed here:

Bob Hall: Convicted of running over with his wife, Kay, but has always maintained his innocence and later released from prison on an Alford Plea and sentenced to 15 years probation. One of the suspects I've always been most unsure about, as there's plenty of evidence that points to him, but he had a very narrow timeline to commit the murder and it's never been explained what Kay was doing at that location or how Bob knew she was there.



I remember seeing the original broadcast of this case, and I've always thought he was innocent. He certainly wouldn't win a popularity contest in my opinion, but like you said, he had a pretty limited timeframe to commit her murder. In my mind, the chances of him locating and killing her within the alloted time are very, very slim (which should provide reasonable doubt).

Keep in mind this is well before the days of Cellphones, Low-jack, and OnStar. As I remember the time frame, he would have had to spend most of it to physically make it to the scene of her murder, which doesn't give any time for a search. The murder scene was not in between the club and their house (pretty sure they were in opposite directions), so for him to stumble upon her in a remote location is pretty unlikely in my opinion.

Perhaps we don't have all the facts from the segment, but one thing that WOULD change my opinion in favor of him being guilty is if her location (or route of travel) was not random. For example if she had a place she liked to go to think/stargaze that Bob would have known.



Steve Bechtel: A suspect in the disappearance of his wife, Amy, due to some dark writings in his journal, unfounded rumours about a possible abusive relationship and his refusal to take a lie detector test. However, I've never thought there was any compelling evidence that he was guilty and believe that the police just had a severe case of tunnel vision.



I also haven't ever felt that Steve was guilty of killing Amy. Of course, the same rule applies.. UM has a history of leaving out some details either at the request of LE officials or to increase the dramatic effect of the story.

Other suspects not already listed here:

Bob Hall: Convicted of running over with his wife, Kay, but has always maintained his innocence and later released from prison on an Alford Plea and sentenced to 15 years probation. One of the suspects I've always been most unsure about, as there's plenty of evidence that points to him, but he had a very narrow timeline to commit the murder and it's never been explained what Kay was doing at that location or how Bob knew she was there.

Jim Harrison: Suspected of murdering his wife, Susan. Was never been charged and has since passed away, but due to his suspected history of abuse, it's very likely he's guilty.

Steve Bechtel: A suspect in the disappearance of his wife, Amy, due to some dark writings in his journal, unfounded rumours about a possible abusive relationship and his refusal to take a lie detector test. However, I've never thought there was any compelling evidence that he was guilty and believe that the police just had a severe case of tunnel vision.

Mike Morris: The Mary Morris murders is one of the most controversial cases around here and has a number of interesting suspects. However, the second Mary's husband, Mike, has never been able to convincingly explain a four-minute call he made to her cell phone around the time she was murdered, so I remain convinced he had someone murder his wife.

Al Henderson: A suspect in the disappearance of his fiancee, Jean Moore. He seemed nicer and more sincere than most of the other suspects interviewed on UM, but I dunno, he did have quite a few holes and incosistencies in his story that prevents me from being convinced of his innocence. I believe he's since passed away, so we'll probably never know for sure.

Rob Page: Suspected in the disappearance of his wife, Pamela. Did a lot of incredibly suspicious things, like forging a letter from her and changing his stories several times, so I'm more than convinced she's guilty. Never even appeared on camera to be interviewed on UM passed away of cancer not too long ago without confessing anything.

I'll have to re-watch the Pam Page, Jean Moore and Kay Hall segments before I can state an opinion, but I did jot down my opinion about the others here.

I hope you didn't take it that I was trying to debate or refute your opinions in any way. I was simply relaying information that UM left out. I thought the same way after viewing certain segments, especially when that's the only information there is to go on. I just figured it would be neat to share with others (who didn't see anything outside of the UM segment) information that has came to light since.

It's fine. I didn't think you were trying to do that. I just wanted to explain the reason that I may not always know some things that other people do, because I don't want other, more well-established posters to think that I'm stupid if I fall behind on some of my information.

Mark Nichols - Guilty

Judy Groezinger - Guilty

Stephen Marfeo - Guilty

Steve Page - Guilty

Jeremy Witherell - Guilty

Larry Race - I lean toward guilty, but at the least, he was very negligent, especially considering how experienced he was.

Paul Pollis - Guilty

Chad Noe - The whole gang is guilty, imo, and now the old grandma is dead and will never pay for her part in this horrible crime.

Robert Bonderson - Guilty, and wth is up with that cop who won't consider anything other than an accident?

Jeffrey MacDonald - lean toward guilty.

Tommy Ziegler - lean toward innocent. I just think he came across as bitter in his appeal segment. If he's innocent, tho, I can't blame him for being angry. The judge had previous personal, negative legal dealings with Tommy Ziegler and then overruled the jury's recommendation of life and gave Tommy the death penalty!

Alfredo Newball - Lean toward innocent, but have recently read some interesting ideas from those who think he's involved.

Don Sherman - Guilty

Leonard Rizzo - GUILTY!!!!

Robert Webster - idk... Had been leaning toward innocent.

Jim Harrison - Guilty

Mike Morris - Guilty (don't know if we can talk about this here anymore, can we?)

Steve Bechtel - Lean toward innocent, but haven't really studied this case that much.

Here are my opinions:
Chad Noe, Stephen Marfeo, Paul Pollis and Larry Race couldn't have seemed more guilty unless their pants were ACTUALLY on fire.

I think Al Henderson may have had organic memory issues and is quite possibly innocent.

Paul Rizzo, I'd vote guilty.

Steve Bechtel, I'm on the fence, but I lean toward innocent. Same with Jeffrey MacDonald.

Tommy Zeigler, I'm on the fence but lean towards guilty.

Alfredo Newball, I think he's innocent. I think she was either stolen for her baby or she ran off.

The others, I'd have to look into.

Any thoughts on Michael Haim? His wife, Bonnie went missing back in 1992 and has since been legally declared dead. The guy screams guilty to me.

Any thoughts on Michael Haim? His wife, Bonnie went missing back in 1992 and has since been legally declared dead. The guy screams guilty to me.

Agreed. This was a very unusual case in that Michael didn't even appear on UM to defend himself, but his father-in-law did it for him by proclaiming Michael's innocence in his interview... even though Michael's own family believed he was responsible! However, the fact that Bonnie's father eventually changed his mind and the family successfully filed a wrongful death civil suit against Michael speaks volumes.

Holy cow, I can't believe we've made it this far in the thread without mentioning Jule Caylor, who is the poster child on how not to act after you've become a suspect in your spouse's disappearance! For years, I was always on the fence about it because even though he was so nonchalant in his UM interview, there never seemed to be any strong evidence against him. However, looking further into the case, there's just so many inconsistencies in Jule's story and suspicious behaviour on his part which was never mentioned on UM, so I'm definitely inclined to think he was guilty. However, given that Jule is in his seventies now, I'm pretty certain he'll never be charged and this case will never be solved.

I used to think Bob Hall was innocent (it seemed near impossible for him to have committed the crime in the time frame he had), until I read a newspaper article about what a witness (a female friend to Bob and Kay) testified to at his trial. The witness said that she believed Bob Hall had got the idea to make a long distance call the night of Kay's murder as a way to establish an alibi from the witness's husband, who did the same exact thing! The husband apparently tried to kill this wife (the witness) and then raced home and made a telephone call to a relative. It's awful coincidental that the same thing happened with Bob and Kay, don't you think?

Agreed. This was a very unusual case in that Michael didn't even appear on UM to defend himself, but his father-in-law did it for him by proclaiming Michael's innocence in his interview... even though Michael's own family believed he was responsible! However, the fact that Bonnie's father eventually changed his mind and the family successfully filed a wrongful death civil suit against Michael speaks volumes.

Holy cow, I can't believe we've made it this far in the thread without mentioning Jule Caylor, who is the poster child on how not to act after you've become a suspect in your spouse's disappearance! For years, I was always on the fence about it because even though he was so nonchalant in his UM interview, there never seemed to be any strong evidence against him. However, looking further into the case, there's just so many inconsistencies in Jule's story and suspicious behaviour on his part which was never mentioned on UM, so I'm definitely inclined to think he was guilty. However, given that Jule is in his seventies now, I'm pretty certain he'll never be charged and this case will never be solved.

There have already been so many lengthy threads dedicated to Jule Caylor that it would probably be pretty pointless to start it up here again, as there probably isn't anything anybody could say that hasn't already been discussed at great lengths.

There have already been so many lengthy threads dedicated to Jule Caylor that it would probably be pretty pointless to start it up here again, as there probably isn't anything anybody could say that hasn't already been discussed at great lengths.

Jule and his tiny eyes!!!

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Michael Haim was guilty.

Chad Noe and his gross family!! ALL GUILTY!