(Do you agree?)

The Black Keys have been bold enough to name another popular music group as the reason that rock music is dying.

Black Keys drummer Patrick Carney has blamed Nickelback, and similar bands, as the reason that rock music has seen a steady decline in popularity. Carney’s comments came just days after members of Kasabian pointed out that the appearance of rock bands on the music charts has declined in recent years.

Carney compared bands like Nickelback to “watered-down, post grunge sh*t” and “horrendous.”

Patrick Carney said he feels it has become a common belief among musicians that they should never aim to be the best rock band in the world. Carney feels that members of the music industry have accepted that the biggest rock band will “always be sh*t.”

Alex Denby, a student in Durham, noted in the Palatinate Online that large-scale music festivals that originated with a rock music base have shifted to featuring pop stars, hip-hop acts, and dubstep. Denby also noted that many acts performing at today’s music festivals would have been chased off of the stage as little as a decade ago.

Writer Luke Lewis, with NME, noted that the number of rock songs on the singles chart had decreased by a staggering 20% from 2009 to 2010. Lewis claimed that rock album sales had not suffered greatly. That may have held true when Lewis penned his article in July 2010, but by June 2011, Guitar Planet ran a series of articles regarding the decline of rock music and guitar bands appearing on the music charts.

The Official Charts Company statistics speak for themselves. The Top 100 Singles of 2010 reveal that only three rock bands broke into the singles chart. One of the bands was Journey with “Don’t Stop Believin’,” which was released in 1981. The other 97 songs were rap, hip-hop, or pop songs.

The decline of rock music popularity has been noted globally. Large broadcasting groups in the US have shied away from rock based formats in recent years, switching from rock music to pop, talk radio, and curiously enough, gospel. Popular radio stations, such as New York-based K-Rock, have switched from rock format to Top 40. Rock-based WBCN left the radio airwaves after more than 41 years on the air. WBCN held the dial at 104.1, but was forced off the air when a sports-talk network took over one network, and the previous network took over 104.1. WBCN moved to an Internet based broadcast as did the Los Angeles based Indie 103.

So what is to blame for the seemingly recent decline in rock music?

One report has suggested that rock fans have been turning to satellite radio and streaming music to get their fix. One reported theory is that the majority of people, particularly youth, simply listen to the music that is the loudest or has the most driving beat. Perhaps adults are buying music more often for their children than they are themselves.

Written by Vince Hunt of NewsQuod.com

http://www.newsquod.com/644968/the-black-keys-claim-rock-music-is-dying-because-of-nickelback/

I gotta agree with him. Most of the mainstream bands out there are terrible IMHO. The new good bands are the ones under the rader. The ones who arent getting the exposer (except for maybe college radio).

Most college radio stations tend to be beytween 87.5 and 91.9 on the FM dial. It's too bad that many of them have more megahertz in their frequencies than they have listeners. :(

He's only stating the obvious. Music has sucked after 1999, IMO.

i agree, they are sucking the soul out of music

And what's all this crap about getting rock and roll from sources from satellite radio? Not everyone can afford satellite radio, least of all the young people who have always been the core audience of any current rock.

Funny, even though I haven't heard Nickelback on the radio for a while, I know exactly what he's talking about: Too many safe-rock CLONES of Nickelback. The industry is playing it safe. Nothing new or cutting edge. Makes more money to go with what is familiar. puke:


Death to the "post-grunge" trend. :mad:

And what's all this crap about getting rock and rtoll from sources from satellite radio? Not everyone can afford satelite radio, least of all the young people who have always been the core audience of any current rock.
I don't get that either. :confused:

I agree, Nickelback DOES suck!

And no one now wants originality, they want techno...looks like this song is a BIG lie....

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Funny, even though I haven't heard Nickelback on the radio for a while, I know exactly what he's talking about: Too many safe-rock CLONES of Nickelback. The industry is playing it safe. Nothing new or cutting edge. Makes more money to go with what is familiar. puke:


Death to the "post-grunge" trend. :mad:
apparently they just released a new album, there is a new Firefox extension you can install that will BLOCK ALL mention of Nickelback from ANYWHERE

It seems the majority of rock these days is in country music, which continues to maintain a huge fanbase. But even the majority of that genre isn't really that good either.

I definitely think music is cyclical. I don't mind some of the pop music that's out these days (much of the pop and dance music I enjoy isn't even played on mainstream radio or originates from other countries) but eventually, I think rock will get big again. You can only tolerate so much of songs with rappers doing nonsense guest verses.

What I always say is that somewhere along the line, rock and roll became exclusively associated with white guys with guitars, and as the pop fan base gets browner and more female like the rest of America, and as the music becomes more computer-based, it makes rock seem more antiquated.

And besides, a lot of white guys love hip-hop these days because it's not their parents' music.

Rock died in the 90s when everyone tried to become a U2 clone (a mediocre act themselves).

All forms of pop die out. So will rap. It will be replaced by a pop form that has not yet been created and we cannot yet recgonize. The great rock and rollers were born when big-band jazz ruled the earth; rock reigned when the hip-hop generation was born. It's a fact of life that one pop form replaces the other.

All forms of pop die out. So will rap. It will be replaced by a pop form that has not yet been created and we cannot yet recgonize. The great rock and rollers were born when big-band jazz ruled the earth; rock reigned when the hip-hop generation was born. It's a fact of life that one pop form replaces the other.

Bingo! Although I'd say "fade away" rather than die out.

Bingo! Although I'd say "fade away" rather than die out.

Good point. :)

apparently they just released a new album, there is a new Firefox extension you can install that will BLOCK ALL mention of Nickelback from ANYWHERE
Good idea, because even though I kind of liked Nickelback for the first fifteen minutes about ten years ago or whenever, I CANNOT STAND THEM NOW!!!! :livid:

Nickelback does majorly suck big time. I hate all their stuff, but I mostly hate their song "Burn It To the Ground." I really, really HATE that song more than I ever hated any other song.

Nickelback does majorly suck big time. I hate all their stuff, but I mostly hate their song "Burn It To the Ground." I really, really HATE that song more than I ever hated any other song.
We should burn that one to the ground. :nod:

We should burn that one to the ground. :nod:
Definitely!

Their music should be force fed to criminals as a torture device.

Definitely!

Their music should be force fed to criminals as a torture device.
I watched that video on Youtube just now. A great big steaming, gelatinous pile of suck. Chad Kroeger and his buds singing about getting drunk. The song was not impressive. Like, where have I heard this dreck before?? I swore I heard it the other weekend on Dick Clark's Rockin' New Year's Eve. Okay, so it wasn't on there, but this live vid makes you feel like it were. Ooh, look at the artsy camera angles, wow. It's just all the same crap, different hour. What was the point of this, was this the best rock and roll could come up with these days?? puke:


I have to endure this tripe on KISW every day. :mad:

I watched that video on Youtube just now. A great big steaming, gelatinous pile of suck. Chad Kroeger and his buds singing about getting drunk. The song was not impressive. Like, where have I heard this dreck before?? I swore I heard it the other weekend on Dick Clark's Rockin' New Year's Eve. Okay, so it wasn't on there, but this live vid makes you feel like it were. Ooh, look at the artsy camera angles, wow. It's just all the same crap, different hour. What was the point of this, was this the best rock and roll could come up with these days?? puke:


I have to endure this tripe on KISW every day. :mad:

You at least have KISW to endure tripe on. WXRK-FM and WRXP-FM in New York are both gone, the former replaced by Top 40, the latter replaced by a . . . news station????

:eek2:

Nickelback is so hated that Detroit Lions fans started an online petition to get them banned from playing the halftime show during the Thanksgiving game.

Another problem with their type of rock and their clones is that radio stations that have the "lite" format play them all the time because it's office music rock. Lite stations should not be playing Nickelback or groups like them. When I think of "lite," I think of James Taylor, Barbra Streisand, Elton John, Carole King, the R&B/soft jazz hybrid groups of the 80's like Champaign, Michael Buble, any of the music that came during the "AM Gold" years and current singer-songwriters like Colbie Calliet. Not some gravelly-voiced screecher singing about getting drunk. I almost wrote my local lite station because they now play Lady Gaga and Katy Perry and call them "lite artists." There's nothing lite about them!

Rock died in the 90s when everyone tried to become a U2 clone (a mediocre act themselves).

IMO, every single U2 album was fantastic up until, and including, The Unforgettable Fire... After that, they became bombastic, and sold out their traditional fans big time for America, and I completely lost interest in their (new) music... I notice a gradual decline in the quality of rock music being made in the 70s-80s-90s to now, but I don't blame Nickelback for the current decline... I like Nickelback, and have seen them live, and they were worth every cent on stage... I don't listen to contemporary rock radio much these days, but when I do, Nickelback are one of the better traditional rock bands on it, in amongst 'emo' bands, Good Charlotte, and all the other post-Nirvana popular 'punk' rock musical junk (hence why I don't listen to it much)...

Nickelback is so hated that Detroit Lions fans started an online petition to get them banned from playing the halftime show during the Thanksgiving game.

Another problem with their type of rock and their clones is that radio stations that have the "lite" format play them all the time because it's office music rock. Lite stations should not be playing Nickelback or groups like them. When I think of "lite," I think of James Taylor, Barbra Streisand, Elton John, Carole King, the R&B/soft jazz hybrid groups of the 80's like Champaign, Michael Buble, any of the music that came during the "AM Gold" years and current singer-songwriters like Colbie Calliet. Not some gravelly-voiced screecher singing about getting drunk. I almost wrote my local lite station because they now play Lady Gaga and Katy Perry and call them "lite artists." There's nothing lite about them!
I do not get it that some "adult lite" stations feel like they have to play a ballad by Nickelback or any band that has a "soft" song. :confused:

That's the whole problem with radio now, categories are interchangeable. If you are a rawk band, with a big power ballad, chances are you'll be back to back with Barbra Streisand or Dido. Just think, "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica will join ranks with "Woman In Love" or "You've Got a Friend". :confused:

Yeah, are Lady Gaga and Katy Perry "lite" because they're chicks?? ohno:

You at least have KISW to endure tripe on. WXRK-FM and WRXP-FM in New York are both gone, the former replaced by Top 40, the latter replaced by a . . . news station????

:eek2:
Funny, because half of KISW's programming is talk shows, B.J. Shea in the morning and "The Mens' Room" in the afternoon. They hardly have any live dj's anymore. I'm thinking this might be a trend toward decline.... :(

Rock died in the 90s when everyone tried to become a U2 clone (a mediocre act themselves).

IMO, every single U2 album was fantastic up until, and including, The Unforgettable Fire... After that, they became bombastic, and sold out their traditional fans big time for America, and I completely lost interest in their (new) music... I notice a gradual decline in the quality of rock music being made in the 70s-80s-90s to now, but I don't blame Nickelback for the current decline... I like Nickelback, and have seen them live, and they were worth every cent on stage... I don't listen to contemporary rock radio much these days, but when I do, Nickelback are one of the better traditional rock bands on it, in amongst 'emo' bands, Good Charlotte, and all the other post-Nirvana popular 'punk' rock musical junk (hence why I don't listen to it much)...
U2 was so good until 'Rattle and Hum'. Then they became this so-called "American" band. They lost the experimentation and the radical spirit.

U2 was so good until 'Rattle and Hum'. Then they became this so-called "American" band. They lost the experimentation and the radical spirit.
I don't like U2 at all, but I'd much rather listen to them than Nickelpuke.

I do not get it that some "adult lite" stations feel like they have to play a ballad by Nickelback or any band that has a "soft" song. :confused:

That's the whole problem with radio now, categories are interchangeable. If you are a rawk band, with a big power ballad, chances are you'll be back to back with Barbra Streisand or Dido. Just think, "Nothing Else Matters" by Metallica will join ranks with "Woman In Love" or "You've Got a Friend". :confused:

Yeah, are Lady Gaga and Katy Perry "lite" because they're chicks?? ohno:

"Lite FM," WLTW-FM in New York, used to play real light music - the Carpenters, Barry Manilow, et al. Now they play power ballads from Bon Jovi and dance hits by Britney. What's so "light" about that, indeed?

Seventies light music was better than people remember, actually . . .. I'd rather listen to Anne Murray than Lady Gaga myself. :)

to blame one band for the "death" of rock is obsurd

I still think Madonna killed rock and roll, largely by emphasizing visuals and spectacle. But she's also relentlessly promoted her idea of pop by incorporating balladeering and hip-hop into her records and by getting behind chicks like Britney Spears. I suspect that she hates guitar rock and has used her career to push it off the airwaves.

IMHO.

I still Madonna killed rock and roll, largely by emphasizing visuals and spectacle. But she's also relentlessly promoted her idea of pop by incorporating balladeering and hip-hop into her records and by getting behind chicks like Britney Spears. I suspect that she hates guitar rock and has used her career to pus it off the airwaves.

IMHO.
In spite of the fact that she "discovered" Candlebox. puke:

In spite of the fact that she "discovered" Candlebox. puke:

That was her way of making lots of money off the grnuge revolt but also to kill it. You defeat your enemies by singing their songs. Madonna getting behind grunge was like the idea of Donald Rumsfeld singing "Give Peace a Chance!" :eek:

Seventies light music was better than people remember, actually . . .. I'd rather listen to Anne Murray than Lady Gaga myself. :)

I like to listen to both. I just wouldn't put them back to back if I had a radio station. Can you imagine Bad Romance after You Needed Me? :lol:

I love seventies light music. When my local lite station was actually lite, I'd fall asleep listening to it. A lot of my CD's that are my "office mixes" has a lot of it on there because it doesn't offend anybody and everyone has a song or two on there they like.

I like to listen to both. I just wouldn't put them back to back if I had a radio station. Can you imagine Bad Romance after You Needed Me? :lol:

I love seventies light music. When my local lite station was actually lite, I'd fall asleep listening to it. A lot of my CD's that are my "office mixes" has a lot of it on there because it doesn't offend anybody and everyone has a song or two on there they like.

Heck, I even like sixties light music. More Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66, please! :)

Update: I think Kanye West is trying to kill rock and roll. Why do you think he tried to make Beck give his Album of the Year Grammy to Beyonce? :p He's gunning for all the white-boy indie acts ,the last vestiges of rock on this planet.

Update: I think Kanye West is trying to kill rock and roll. Why do you think he tried to make Beck give his Album of the Year Grammy to Beyonce? :p He's gunning for all the white-boy indie acts ,the last vestiges of rock on this planet.
Hadn't he already done that with Taylor Swift a few years ago? What a buffoon. ohno:

Speaking of "Yawn-ye" there's a petition started to get him kicked out as a headliner at the Glastonbury Music Festival:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-sign-petition-to-cancel-kanye-west-glastonbury-2015-performance/

Hadn't he already done that with Taylor Swift a few years ago? What a buffoon. ohno:

Yes, and on Beyonce's behalf then, too. He seems to have to declared war against country (Taylor Swift was more of then) and indie-rock. I sincerely believe that West is trying to push rock and roll off the face of the planet so hip-hop can take over everything. And yo, Kanye, at this point, I tired of it, yo? :p

Speaking of "Yawn-ye" there's a petition started to get him kicked out as a headliner at the Glastonbury Music Festival:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/thousands-sign-petition-to-cancel-kanye-west-glastonbury-2015-performance/

Ha ha, I heard about it, I hope they get him out of Glastonbury. To imagine Kanye West trodding on the same stage as Family - with the great Roger Chapman - once did makes me want to puke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dG8zRb9P5M

I disagree

I disagree

With which point, specifically?

What could be explained for the demise of rock and roll currently?

I disagree
Yes, with what do you disagree?

What could be explained for the demise of rock and roll currently?

There's little appreciation for music that takes effort and talent to produce on traditional instruments. Everyone wants to her autotuned vocals backed by a computer drone. No one cares about live performances anymore, it's all so choreographed and programmed.

And when Kanye West says that rap is the new rock and roll, that's his way of sticking the knife in the backs of rock fans who know their favorite music is declining and falling faster than the Roman Colosseum. Rock is drowning; Kanye wants to push it in the water. Rock is on fire; Kanye wants to add fuel to the flames. :eek:

There's little appreciation for music that takes effort and talent to produce on traditional instruments. Everyone wants to her autotuned vocals backed by a computer drone. No one cares about live performances anymore, it's all so choreographed and programmed.

And when Kanye West says that rap is the new rock and roll, that's his way of sticking the knife in the backs of rock fans who know their favorite music is declining and falling faster than the Roman Colosseum. Rock is drowning; Kanye wants to push it in the water. Rock is on fire; Kanye wants to add fuel to the flames. :eek:
Last thing I heard, Kanye got booed in Australia for crowing onstage about being a "rock star". ohno: A lot of these rappers want to be rock stars without the actual rock.

I HATE autotune with a passion. It does take too much effort to create something with melody, musical instruments and actual structure in a song, something a little organic.

Last thing I heard, Kanye got booed in Australia for crowing onstage about being a "rock star". ohno: A lot of these rappers want to be rock stars without the actual rock.

I HATE autotune with a passion. It does take too much effort to create something with melody, musical instruments and actual structure in a song, something a little organic.

Agreed,. though you have to deal with all of these hip pop critics and all of these aging rock critics who pretends to like hip-hop in order to keep their jobs pooh-pooh sentiments like yours and mine. "Well, the Beatles used electronic sounds too!" they say. Yes, but with restraint and subtlety, and after George Harrison made a whole album of it (Electronic Sound), he disavowed the result! :lol:

I keep hearing music critics and fans always talking about how Kanye is a musical genius. I don't consider someone who raps about taking pictures of his private parts and showing it to a girl such an Einstein of rap and hip-hop. But these are the same people who think Nicki Minaj made a feminist anthem with "Anaconda" so I really can't take them seriously.

Radio is definitely not being friendly to straight-up rock. My local rock station plays nothing but old nu-metal and this weird hybrid stuff mixed in with classic rock tunes. These days, when I think of straight-up rock that's current, I think of AC/DC. They haven't changed their formula that much and they are still going strong, if that awesome Grammys performance proved anything.

WXPK in White Plains, New York - the Peak - is rock radio the way it used to be, wit ha good mix of new and classic rock. The downside? It's hard to get in the part of New Jersey that I live in.

Check them out:

http://www.1071thepeak.com

I keep hearing music critics and fans always talking about how Kanye is a musical genius. I don't consider someone who raps about taking pictures of his private parts and showing it to a girl such an Einstein of rap and hip-hop. But these are the same people who think Nicki Minaj made a feminist anthem with "Anaconda" so I really can't take them seriously.

Radio is definitely not being friendly to straight-up rock. My local rock station plays nothing but old nu-metal and this weird hybrid stuff mixed in with classic rock tunes. These days, when I think of straight-up rock that's current, I think of AC/DC. They haven't changed their formula that much and they are still going strong, if that awesome Grammys performance proved anything.
Maybe they think Kanye is a musical genius because he married Kim Kardashian.
ohno:

I read this idiotic interview with him in a magazine where the conversation turns to issues of spiritual inspiration, with names like Deepak Chopra, etc. When Kanye was asked about who or what he found spiritually empowering, he said, "Success".

The man is shallower than a pee-stain in a kiddie pool. :rolleyes:

Maybe they think Kanye is a musical genius because he married Kim Kardashian.
ohno:

I read this idiotic interview with him in a magazine where the conversation turns to issues of spiritual inspiration, with names like Deepak Chopra, etc. When Kanye was asked about who or what he found spiritually empowering, he said, "Success".

The man is shallower than a pee-stain in a kiddie pool. :rolleyes:

He's the Reggie Mantle of rap. :lol:

At least Reggie could play guitar. :guitar: