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Nivri
11-28-2011, 11:19 AM
RTV has begun running "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" at 10:00 AM beginning today, November 28.

Dobson and Kelly
11-30-2011, 05:23 PM
RTV has begun running "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" at 10:00 AM beginning today, November 28.


My cable provider does not offer RTV. I wish it did.



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mets82
11-30-2011, 06:19 PM
I have RTV and it isnt that great. They really have no shows and they are losing affiliates to ME-TV. I have RTV yet I dont see Ozzie and Harriet on my schedule.

Dobson and Kelly
12-01-2011, 12:16 PM
I have RTV and it isnt that great. They really have no shows and they are losing affiliates to ME-TV. I have RTV yet I dont see Ozzie and Harriet on my schedule.


It would be nice if Antenna TV picked up Ozzie and Harriet- They have Burns and Allen, Jack Benny, Dragnet, Dennis the Menace, Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best.

OH Nuts!
12-02-2011, 05:34 PM
It would be nice if Antenna TV picked up Ozzie and Harriet- They have Burns and Allen, Jack Benny, Dragnet, Dennis the Menace, Leave it to Beaver and Father Knows Best.

Yes, that would be great. Maybe they will - they certainly have a SUPERB selection of shows...so you never know what might happen down the road.

Hazel Anyday
02-09-2012, 05:43 PM
I didn't know O&H were on till mid-December, it's on every day at 10 am. While I'm happy to record these, unfortunately they're skipping episodes like crazy. One episode will show then they'll skip 25 episodes and show another one then skip 5 episodes and show anonther then skip 19 episodes and show another. On and on, the only thing you can hope to get from RTV's showing is a brief example of each season of the shows, this is in no way a presentation of all the episodes being shown in episode guide order. This is more a case of be grateful for the crumbs that RTV throws at us. The quality of the shows (how they look) is also awful, looks like extremely old prints that were stored in a dirty basement withe the cans open and dirt and water leaking on the films. Very bad, much like you might see in a bad looking public domain DVD. If only RTV could get their act together and show old TV series that are 1. complete episodes counts 2. episodes shown in broadcast guide order & 3. show restored or at least 1/2 way well cared for prints. I'm glad to get these O&H crumbs RTV is showing (hairs in the frame and film breaks and frame skips and all, ever see a badly kept old home movie?, that's the quality level of O&H on RTV) but it's a genuine case of "it's better than nothing.":(

Also RTV needs to clear it's schedule of all the 1980's and 1990's "news" "investigative A&E" exploitative programming and all the lousy 1990's and 2000's medical and detective(?) shows. This programming stinks. :mad: Get back to 1950's and 1960's and early 1970's shows, this is why you attracted an audience to begin with. Please stop now your self-destructive path to crap shows and total mediocrity, in other words stop following TV-Land's example. There's another ONCE-GREAT TV channel that now isn't worth even thinking about much less watching, unless your thought is "what a waste this channel has become." RTV shape up before it's too late, start showing again true classic TV from the '50's thru early '70's, let the other million channels show the crap.

mets82
02-09-2012, 10:16 PM
I mentioned RTV's lousy programming earlier in this thread. I dont know how they stay in business. Forget about the shows for a minute, and yes they are lousy, but what about how its presented? I dont know about you but when I used to put on RTV, the quality of the station looked like a public access station, than anything else.

Goldilocks
02-11-2012, 11:07 AM
While I'm happy to record these, unfortunately they're skipping episodes like crazy. One episode will show then they'll skip 25 episodes and show another one then skip 5 episodes and show anonther then skip 19 episodes and show another. On and on, the only thing you can hope to get from RTV's showing is a brief example of each season of the shows, this is in no way a presentation of all the episodes being shown in episode guide order. This is more a case of be grateful for the crumbs that RTV throws at us. The quality of the shows (how they look) is also awful, looks like extremely old prints that were stored in a dirty basement withe the cans open and dirt and water leaking on the films. Very bad, much like you might see in a bad looking public domain DVD. I'm glad to get these O&H crumbs RTV is showing (hairs in the frame and film breaks and frame skips and all, ever see a badly kept old home movie?, that's the quality level of O&H on RTV) but it's a genuine case of "it's better than nothing.":(



This is just how it was when ION was showing O&H. They showed the same 28-30 episodes over and over and they were all over the place. Like one night they'd show "The Orchid and The Violet" and then the next day, they'd show "Kris, The Little Helper". LOL!

Like you, I didn't mind. I gladly watched them.

ILUVO&H
02-11-2012, 09:46 PM
Can't wait until Sams project for the entire series to be released on DVD is complete!

jehobden
02-14-2012, 08:03 PM
I didn't know O&H were on till mid-December, it's on every day at 10 am. While I'm happy to record these, unfortunately they're skipping episodes like crazy. One episode will show then they'll skip 25 episodes and show another one then skip 5 episodes and show anonther then skip 19 episodes and show another. On and on, the only thing you can hope to get from RTV's showing is a brief example of each season of the shows, this is in no way a presentation of all the episodes being shown in episode guide order. This is more a case of be grateful for the crumbs that RTV throws at us. The quality of the shows (how they look) is also awful, looks like extremely old prints that were stored in a dirty basement withe the cans open and dirt and water leaking on the films. Very bad, much like you might see in a bad looking public domain DVD. If only RTV could get their act together and show old TV series that are 1. complete episodes counts 2. episodes shown in broadcast guide order & 3. show restored or at least 1/2 way well cared for prints. I'm glad to get these O&H crumbs RTV is showing (hairs in the frame and film breaks and frame skips and all, ever see a badly kept old home movie?, that's the quality level of O&H on RTV) but it's a genuine case of "it's better than nothing.":(

Also RTV needs to clear it's schedule of all the 1980's and 1990's "news" "investigative A&E" exploitative programming and all the lousy 1990's and 2000's medical and detective(?) shows. This programming stinks. :mad: Get back to 1950's and 1960's and early 1970's shows, this is why you attracted an audience to begin with. Please stop now your self-destructive path to crap shows and total mediocrity, in other words stop following TV-Land's example. There's another ONCE-GREAT TV channel that now isn't worth even thinking about much less watching, unless your thought is "what a waste this channel has become." RTV shape up before it's too late, start showing again true classic TV from the '50's thru early '70's, let the other million channels show the crap.

Maybe it was one of these shows that I saw about midnight one night off the Ion affiliate in Waco, TX. It was one of the color episodes from the last season, but the color was badly washed-out. It looked like a public domain print. I think that the plot involved a dinner party that Rick & Kris were trying to throw for some friends, if anyone recognizes that plot line, or something like it, from the last season.

Jude The Obscure
03-27-2012, 12:13 PM
What RTV is showing are simply the public domain prints--most likely "borrowed" from the Mill Creek dvds. When I mentioned the reruns on the "OzzieHarriet" friend page on Facebook, my post was deleted! Which led me to believe that RTV is running public domain prints which of course is NOT sanctioned by the official Nelson estate (Sam included) and therefore they didn't want publicity for RTV's reruns. In any case, I'm hoping the restoration of the entire series for DVD will also lead to new prints struck for official syndication.

Hazel Anyday
03-27-2012, 12:36 PM
I'll bet you're right about RTV just using the Mill Creek set as their source. I couldn't believe when I watched one of the RTV showings of Beverly Hillbillies on the weekend it was exactly the same as the bad public domain shows that do not use the original theme song but instead have replaced it with some non-descript bluegrass type music. I never heard of a station using cheap public domain dvds as their source material. Is RTV on the skids? They use regular syndication packages of Route 66 and Naked City. Why the public domain commercial DVDs for their classic comedies? And when in the world are we going to see Love That Bob back on some station somewhere???

Jude The Obscure
03-27-2012, 12:51 PM
Maybe because RTV is trying run some shows as cheap as they can find it. I was shocked to see reruns of "The Campbells"--an old CBN Family Channel/Canada co-production--they must have been cheap to obtain! Some of the Naked City reruns are from the 80s syndication package with the old Coca Cola Columbia lady smacked onto the end of the show. There is a local cable access channel in my state that uses public domain DVDs as the source material for their "Classic Tube" showcase. BH and that substituted theme music is a DEAD giveaway it is from a DVD!

Leslie Eckhardt
03-27-2012, 10:15 PM
Maybe because RTV is trying run some shows as cheap as they can find it. I was shocked to see reruns of "The Campbells"--an old CBN Family Channel/Canada co-production--they must have been cheap to obtain! Some of the Naked City reruns are from the 80s syndication package with the old Coca Cola Columbia lady smacked onto the end of the show. There is a local cable access channel in my state that uses public domain DVDs as the source material for their "Classic Tube" showcase. BH and that substituted theme music is a DEAD giveaway it is from a DVD!
These DVDs are of public domain episodes which anybody can show without paying any liscensing fees. There are approximately 50 eps of Beverly Hillbillies, 30 eps of The Lucy Show and an untold no. of eps of Ozzie and Harriet. ME-TV here in Chicago pays the fees to Paramount for the official syndication packages of Lucy and Hillbillies. RTV (which I don't get here) is showing these series for the price of the DVDs. (Which isn't much!) Both Netflix and Vudu have been showing public domain DVDs of feature films and getting their usual rental fees for these free rides! (Some of the films have the Alpha Video bug in the corner of the picture as the film starts!)

Jude The Obscure
03-28-2012, 07:37 PM
Sometimes I will get an Andy Griffith public domain episode airing on the access channel or Dusty's Trail, but I never see Petticoat Junction, even though the first 20 or so episodes are in the public domain.

Mr. Television
03-28-2012, 08:10 PM
RTV has really fallen. I'm glad they're showing Ozzie & Harriet as I haven't really seen many of the shows before. I didn't even know they were airing until yesterday when I caught the one where Ozzie and Joe went to Mexico for lunch. lol I'm glad they show Naked City also since I've never seen the show before. I agree though they have to get rid of all that 90's programming. they suck.

Jude The Obscure
03-28-2012, 08:23 PM
I watched that episode too and was laughing consistently! I too don't understand RTV's programming strategy--the reality programming or the stuff from Canada from the 90s. I think when RTV lost the CBS/Paramount library is when they really lost a foothold with viewers. There are plenty of other obscure shows from the 50s and 60s that could be given another shot--unless of course they deteriorated to the point where transferring them to digital is moot.

OH Nuts!
03-29-2012, 04:33 PM
Well, I don't get RTV but it sounds like I'm not missing much. At least I have 200 or so eps (public domain, but I can live with it - taking the outlook that something is better than nothing). These eps should keep me going until Sam rolls out his project.

I know restoring the episodes is a behemoth task and will take time. Keeping my fingers crossed. It will be lovely to see something done by someone in the Nelson clan - esp. one of Ricky's sons.

Hazel Anyday
03-29-2012, 04:57 PM
RTV has a few good shows, Peter Gunn, Rifleman (limited run), Naked City, Rt. 66 and that's it except for O&H. But all these shows have been on thru at least 1 run thru and most are on their 2nd or 3rd or even more run thru cycle. I was recording a couple of these (Gunn & Naked City) but neither of them was a complete series run, a few episodes missing here and there. What RTV needs to do is REVAMP their entire schedule, put on all new OLD TV classics, take off the '90's crap and the reality show reruns from A&E and concentrate on putting on good quality OLD TV classics. How about starting with a complete run of Love That Bob and Hawaiian Eye, I'd love to see a complete run of these 2.

Jude The Obscure
03-29-2012, 10:52 PM
all the old detective shows from Warner Bros as well as the old Westerns like Cheyenne, Maverick, Bronco and Sugarfoot. This would be a boost for sure.

Leslie Eckhardt
03-30-2012, 02:10 AM
all the old detective shows from Warner Bros as well as the old Westerns like Cheyenne, Maverick, Bronco and Sugarfoot. This would be a boost for sure.
I'd love to see Our Miss Brooks, December Bride, Pete and Gladys, Oh! Susanna (with Gale Storm), and Private Secretary (with Ann Sothern). On weekends I'd like to see back-to-back episodes of Love On A Rooftop and He & She. Some of these probably have rights issues-this is just a wish list.

OH Nuts!
03-30-2012, 03:05 PM
I'd love to see Our Miss Brooks, December Bride, Pete and Gladys, Oh! Susanna (with Gale Storm), and Private Secretary (with Ann Sothern). On weekends I'd like to see back-to-back episodes of Love On A Rooftop and He & She. Some of these probably have rights issues-this is just a wish list.

Well, you never know. Some (or all!) of your wish list may come true. Some shows I NEVER thought would have seen the light of day again - like The Paper Chase, The Patty Duke Show, Bachelor Father - have been revived either through fantastic companies like SHOUT! or great Digital Channels like Antenna TV. (Keeping my fingers crossed for you!)

Mr. Television
03-30-2012, 06:07 PM
I'd love to see Our Miss Brooks, December Bride, Pete and Gladys, Oh! Susanna (with Gale Storm), and Private Secretary (with Ann Sothern). On weekends I'd like to see back-to-back episodes of Love On A Rooftop and He & She. Some of these probably have rights issues-this is just a wish list.
I've never seen those shows but I'd love to.

Mr. Television
03-30-2012, 06:08 PM
I've never seen those shows but I'd love to.
Antenna TV is great. The big disappointment though is that they were going to show The Farmer's Daughter with Inger Stevens and for whatever reason they backed out on it. I've never seen that show either.

Leslie Eckhardt
03-31-2012, 11:19 AM
Antenna TV is great. The big disappointment though is that they were going to show The Farmer's Daughter with Inger Stevens and for whatever reason they backed out on it. I've never seen that show either.
I couldn't quite believe this when I read it, but I read that the reason Antenna TV could not show The Farmer's Daughter was that Sony Pictures couldn't find the masters of the program to supply the 104 episodes to the station! The last time I was aware of this program airing was in the late 80s on CBN, who used to run it back-to-back with Hazel and Bachelor Father. I have also learned that Our Miss Brooks, December Bride and Pete and Gladys are all controlled by Paramount and all three shows still have copyrights. I have further learned through a correspondence with Gale Storm's daughter, Susanna Harrigan, that Oh! Susanna is controlled by a British distribution company which will not allow it (for whatever reason) to be broadcast. According to Ms. Harrigan, the fact that Susanna could not be re-run hurt Ms. Storm very much, as it was not shown in syndication nearly as much as her more accessible My Little Margie series. (Of which I have a very good 24-episode DVD set from VCI.) One theory I have is that since Gale Storm sang on every third episode of this series, the problem could be with music rights for the many songs Gale sang on this show. (Gale Storm was a terrific singer-she has several CDs available on the marvelous Gale Storm website.)

Jude The Obscure
04-01-2012, 09:56 PM
It is quite disturbing to think a studio has no idea of where the masters of a show it owns is located. I also read that the prints they did have were to the point of being non-transferable to digital. Sad, very sad.

Leslie Eckhardt
04-09-2012, 12:01 PM
It is quite disturbing to think a studio has no idea of where the masters of a show it owns is located. I also read that the prints they did have were to the point of being non-transferable to digital. Sad, very sad.
It would seem that Sony could put together a viable syndication package. If they couldn't find the entire output of the show on decent prints, they could get at least enough for Antenna TV. NBC Universal gathered 117 out of 143 Bachelor Father shows so that at least these shows could be seen on Antenna TV. And that series is a few years older than The Farmer's Daughter.

Jude The Obscure
04-11-2012, 06:43 PM
Another show that has been similarly fallen into "obscurity" is I Married Joan, a case where the ownership of the show (or precisely the master prints) is not fully known and therefore it is most likely lost to the ages (yes, there are a few public domain DVDs).

Jude The Obscure
06-21-2012, 09:41 PM
And now RTV is removing the show from its lineup. But I certainly think that as Sam and co work on restoring the seasons for DVD release, that eventually they will offer up the episodes for FRESH viewing in syndication. The RTV exposure was still good nonetheless, even though we know they were simply rerunning prints seen on the public domain issues (and most likely the Mill Creek releases).

Jude The Obscure
07-04-2012, 08:06 PM
The show is now scheduled on Saturday afternoons--for an hour, 3pm central time. They started the run with the two earliest public domain episodes.

Milkamplifier
10-03-2012, 05:11 AM
RTV is putting "Ozzie and Harriet" back on its weekday line-up. An episode will air each day, Monday to Friday, at 1:30pm ET/PT (12:30 central).

RTV will also continue to air an episode on Saturdays and Sundays at 1:00pm ET/PT (12:00pm central).

http://www.myretrotv.com/prog_schedules/RTV-National-Eastern.pdf

http://www.myretrotv.com/prog_schedules/RTV-National-Central.pdf

http://www.myretrotv.com/prog_schedules/RTV-National-Pacific.pdf

Jude The Obscure
10-03-2012, 08:07 PM
I no longer have RTV, but it is good to see the show get some exposure.

david gideon
11-10-2012, 02:03 PM
It appears that NBC is launching a new 'digital subchannel' that will debut for sure on the ten NBC owned-and-operated stations across the country and will be available to other local stations who want to carry it. Called COZI TV its preliminary schedule features O&H as part of a bunch of 'rotating comedies' in the afternoon. If your local station does carry it but you don't have an antenna for over-the-air tv, contact your cable/sat provider to see if they will add it to their channel lineup. (I know our Comcast system includes all the local digital sub channels but my brother has WOW and they don't, or maybe they charge extra for it.) More details on the new channel at:
timeoutchicago.com/arts-culture/chicago-media-blog/15786636/cozi-tv-nbc-going-retro-on-new-digital-network

born2late
12-11-2012, 03:57 PM
I agree about the non classic programming on RTV. I don't know why they are showing things like that, and that Daytime show. Nothing retro about them. With all the competition, you'd think they would do better.