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JamesG
10-03-2011, 04:38 PM
Amanda Knox Verdict: Murder Conviction Overturned
AP / The Huffington Post
10/3/11


An Italian court has overturned the conviction of 24-year-old American Amanda Knox. Knox was found not guilty of killing her British roommate, 21-year-old Meredith Kercher, in 2007, and will be freed from jail.

Knox collapsed in tears after the verdict overturning her 2009 conviction was read out.

Her co-defendant, Raffaele Sollecito, also was cleared of the murder.



The Kercher family looked on grimly and a bit dazed as the verdict was read out by the judge after 11 hours of deliberations by the eight-member jury.

Outside the courthouse, some of the hundreds of observers shouted "Shame, shame!"





Yet inside the frescoed courtroom, Knox's parents, who have regularly traveled from their home in Seattle to Perugia to visit the 24-year-old over the past four years, hugged their lawyers and cried with joy.

"We've been waiting for this for four years," said one of Sollecito's lawyers, Giulia Bongiorno.

The judge upheld Knox's conviction on a charge of slander for accusing bar owner Diya "Patrick" Lumumba of carrying out the killing. He set the sentence at three years, meaning for time served.

Knox has been in prison since Nov. 6, 2007.





Prosecutors can appeal the acquittal to Italy's highest court. There was no word late Monday if they planned to do so.

In Seattle, about a dozen Knox supporters were overjoyed that she has been cleared of the murder conviction.

"She's free!" and "We did it!" they shouted at a hotel where they watched the court proceedings on TV.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/03/amanda-knox-verdict-_n_992798.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C101043

shotzette
10-05-2011, 09:14 PM
3 years for slander? The Italian justice system is ridiculous. Sadly, due to the authorities' tainted evidence, the crime will never be fully resolved.

robyrob
10-06-2011, 10:31 AM
the slander charge is ridiculous - they coerced her into signing that statement that her boss did it with the promise that it would mean that she wouldn't be charged, but when it turned out that he had an airtight alibi they of course couldn't charge him and went after Amanda instead.

Rudy Guede acted alone when he killed Meredith Kercher - he has changed his story so many times it is ridiculous; none of their friends had ever even seen him before that day, and no one knew of any reason why he would even be in their apartment, it was his bloody hand print found on the pillow under Meredith's body, and he was the one that mentioned the exact amount of money stolen from her room - before it was ever revealed by the police that anthing had been stolen. Amanda Knox had plenty of money, he was going to be evicted by his landlord the next day if he couldn't pay his rent, which he did somehow come up with that day.

sunshinefizzy
10-06-2011, 03:51 PM
Good! I never believed she was guilty.

JamesG
03-26-2013, 07:55 AM
Amanda Knox Case: Italy's Highest Court Overturns Acquittal, Orders New Trial
03/26/2013


Italy's highest criminal court overturned the acquittal of Amanda Knox in the 2007 murder of her British roommate and ordered a retrial, The Associated Press reported.

The Court of Cassation ruled Tuesday that an appeals court in Florence must re-hear the case against Knox and her Italian-ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito for the slaying of British exchange student Meredith Kercher.



Kercher, 21, was killed in the home she shared with Knox and other roommates in Perugia, Italy. Kercher was found half-naked, with her throat slashed. Several of her belongings, including cash, credit cards and phones, were missing.

Prosecutors alleged Kercher was killed by Knox, Sollecito and an Ivory Coast man named Rudy Guede. Guede admitted having sexual relations with Kercher but denied killing her, CNN reported. He was later convicted in a separate trial and is currently serving a 16-year sentence.

The case became a worldwide sensation that divided public opinion.







Knox, then 20, and Sollecito, then 24, were initially convicted of sexual assault, murder and simulating a burglary, and sentenced to 25 years in prison. Knox received an extra year for calumny for falsely accusing another man of killing Kercher.

The conviction was overturned on appeal in 2011 and both Knox and Sollecito were released from prison.



At the time of this writing, Knox is a student at the University of Washington in Seattle. Waiting To Be Heard, Knox's book about the case, is due to be published on April 30.

Sollecito lives in Verona, Italy, where he is studying computer engineering.

It is not known if Knox will return to Italy voluntarily or be extradited to face the new proceedings. If she fails to appear, the case could proceed without her, The New York Times reported.



Knox released a statement after the ruling was issued on Tuesday, saying it was "painful to receive the news," Reuters reported.

"No matter what happens, my family and I will face this continuing legal battle as we always have, confident in the truth and with our heads held high in the face of wrongful accusations and unreasonable adversity," Knox stated.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/26/amanda-knox-case_n_2953655.html?

*ROGER*
06-10-2013, 08:53 PM
3 years for slander? The Italian justice system is ridiculous. Sadly, due to the authorities' tainted evidence, the crime will never be fully resolved.
I thought Merideth Kercher's real killer was proven to be some guy named Rudy Geude. :confused:

robyrob
06-10-2013, 09:26 PM
I thought Merideth Kercher's real killer was proven to be some guy named Rudy Geude. :confused:
only by all of the physical evidence, DNA, motive, logic and common sense - but unfortunately that isn't enough for the Italian prosecutor's office.

*ROGER*
06-11-2013, 12:11 AM
only by all of the physical evidence, DNA, motive, logic and common sense - but unfortunately that isn't enough for the Italian prosecutor's office.
Well, Rudy Geude was successfully tried and convicted. Guede found Kercher's body in the house she shared with Knox (even though he didn't live there). His fingerprints were found at the scene. He admitted being there prior to the killing (and using the toilet). And one of his palm prints was found in a blood stain underneath Kercher's body.

I think Knox was completely innocent of the crime; and that none of the evidence — blood, DNA, or witnesses — ever really pointed to Knox.

JamesG
07-09-2013, 02:31 PM
Amanda Knox Retrial Date Set for September 30 after Acquittal Overturned by Italian Court
07/09/13
AP


A Florence appeals court has set Sept. 30 as the start date for the retrial of American student Amanda Knox in the 2007 death of her British roommate.

In March, Italy's highest court overturned Knox's acquittal, faulting the lower court for "deficiencies, contradictions and illogical" conclusions in freeing Knox and her onetime boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito. It ordered a new appeals court to consider all the evidence to determine if they helped kill Meredith Kercher.

Kercher family attorney Francesco Maresca said Tuesday the Florence court would begin hearings on Sept. 30. Knox, who returned to her hometown of Seattle after her 2011 acquittal, is not expected to attend.

Kercher's body was found in her bedroom of the house she shared with Knox in Perugia. Her throat had been slashed.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/09/amanda-knox-retrial-date_n_3567716.html

JamesG
09-20-2013, 04:20 PM
Amanda Knox Says "Everything Is At Stake" in Retrial on "Today" Show
09/20/13
AP


American student Amanda Knox on Friday defended her decision not to return to Italy for a new appeals trial over the 2007 killing of her British roommate, even as she acknowledged that "everything is at stake," insisting she is innocent.

"I was already imprisoned as innocent person in Italy, and I can't reconcile the choice to go back with that experience," Knox said in an interview with Matt Lauer on NBC's "Today" show.

"I just can't relive that."



Lauer asked Knox if she worried that she was handing prosecutors an admission of guilt by not attending the trial.

The Seattle native replied, "I look at it of an admission of innocence, to be quite honest."



Knox said there was no trace of her in the room where her roommate, Meredith Kercher, was found killed when both were exchange students studying in Perugia, Italy. Kercher's throat had been slashed.

"It's impossible for me to have participated in this crime if there's no trace of me," Knox said.

She said school and finances also were keeping her from attending the trial, which is scheduled to begin in Florence on Sept. 30.







In March, Italy's supreme court ordered a new trial for Knox and her former Italian boyfriend. An appeals court in 2011 had acquitted both, overturning convictions by a lower court. Italian law cannot compel Knox to return for the new legal proceeding.

Knox said Friday that she still had faith in the Italian legal system.

"I believe that people who really care about justice and look at this without prejudice will come to same conclusion," she said.



Still, she acknowledged that the prospect of returning to prison haunted her.

"I thought about what it would be like to live my entire life in prison and to lose everything, to lose what I've been able to come back to and rebuild," she said. "I think about it all the time. It's so scary. Everything is at stake."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/09/20/amanda-knox-today-show-everything-at-stake_n_3961620.html?

Vahan
10-13-2013, 12:14 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2457251/Is-Amanda-Knox-headed-acquittal-DNA-tests-traces-victims-blood-kitchen-knife-touted-prosecutors-murder-weapon.html


American student Amanda Knox, who is facing a retrial in Italy in the murder of her roommate, received some good news this week when forensic experts revealed that there were no traces of the victim’s DNA on the alleged murder weapon.

On Friday, experts began tests on a kitchen knife that the Italian prosecutors claimed was used to murder British student Meredith Kercher in Perugia in 2007.

Two years ago, Knox and her former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, were cleared of all charges in connection to Kercher’s murder after they had served four years in prison for the crime.

In March, Italy's highest court ordered the new trial for the pair, overturning their acquittals.

The 26-year-old Knox, who has been attending college in Seattle since her return to the U.S., announced that she will not go to Italy to face another trial.

This latest revelation that skin cells found on the knife are not those of Kercher could refute the prosecution’s claim that Knox used the large piece of cutlery to kill the British national.

Following Kercher’s slaying in 2007, Perugia police seized the sizable kitchen knife from Sollecito’s apartment, where Knox allegedly had used it for cooking, according to the Seattle Post-Intelligencer.

DNA testing performed this week have shown that skin cells found between the handle and the blade are those of Knox, not Kercher.

The fact that Kercher's blood was not found on the blade could possibly spell a second acquittal for Knox when the retrial comes to a close November 26.

Knox’s attorney Ted Simon told ABC News Friday that he was satisfied with this turn of events in Italy.
Meanwhile, Sollecito's attorney, Luca Maori, said that all evidence points to the fact that contrary to the prosecutors’ version of events, the knife that has become the centerpiece of the case against his client and Knox was not the murder weapon after all.

The forensic experts will officially unveil the results of the DNA tests during a court hearing November 6.

The appellate court hearing the new case could declare Knox's in contempt of court for failing to return to Italy for the trial, but that carries no additional penalties.

'We refute the idea that because Amanda is not coming, that Amanda is guilty, that Amanda is using a strategy.

'Amanda always said she was a friend of Meredith's, Amanda has always respected the Italian justice system,' Knox's lawyer Luciano Ghirga said before the trial opened.

Knox and Sollecito, now 29, were convicted and later acquitted in Ms Kercher's death.

Knox served four years of a 26-year sentence, including three years on a slander conviction for falsely accusing a Perugia bar owner in the murder, before leaving Italy a free woman after her 2011 acquittal.

The bar owner wrongly accused of killing Meredith Kercher today insisted that Amanda Knox is guilty of the British student's murder.

Patrick Lumumba, who Knox initially suggested might be responsible for killing Meredith, told the hearing that he had suffered from the false allegation, which saw Knox convicted of slander.

'I say the same thing I said six years ago,' he said. 'I think she is guilty, and that is why she slandered me.'

Francesco Maresca, representing the Kercher family, said that the victim's relatives believed Knox was present at the scene of Meredith's death in the flat the two students shared in Perugia.

'I think she is talking too much, sincerely, and this attitude of continuous playing the victim is inappropriate,' he added.

Knox and her one-time lover Sollecito served four years in jail for the murder of Meredith, who was found semi-naked with her throat slit in the flat she shared with Knox.

Both were freed on appeal in 2011 but in March this year Italy’s highest court sensationally ordered them to face retrial.

In June judges published the reasons for that decision, saying the ruling by the appeal court that freed them was full of ‘deficiencies contradictions and illogical conclusions’.

Knox has said that her decision not to attend the re-trial was ‘common sense’.

‘I was imprisoned as an innocent person and I just can’t re-live that,’ said told NBC television.

In a memoir released earlier this year, Knox sought to portray herself as a naive young woman railroaded by a foreign justice system and not a callous sexual deviant as she was painted in many reports after her initial conviction.

Knox is not obliged to attend the retrial and can be represented by her lawyers.

If found guilty, she would be able to appeal again, but Italy could apply for her extradition if that failed

Steve_uk
11-08-2013, 04:20 PM
the slander charge is ridiculous - they coerced her into signing that statement that her boss did it with the promise that it would mean that she wouldn't be charged, but when it turned out that he had an airtight alibi they of course couldn't charge him and went after Amanda instead.

Rudy Guede acted alone when he killed Meredith Kercher - he has changed his story so many times it is ridiculous; none of their friends had ever even seen him before that day, and no one knew of any reason why he would even be in their apartment, it was his bloody hand print found on the pillow under Meredith's body, and he was the one that mentioned the exact amount of money stolen from her room - before it was ever revealed by the police that anthing had been stolen. Amanda Knox had plenty of money, he was going to be evicted by his landlord the next day if he couldn't pay his rent, which he did somehow come up with that day.
Your post is full of misconceptions,half-truths and falsehoods,and I hope that you will allow me to unravel a little of the maze which is the Meredith Kercher case.Firstly there is no doubt that Rudy Guede was involved in Meredith's murder and the Police made mistakes in not apprehending this man earlier whose modus vivendi was burglary with knife in hand. However it's unclear as to whether he acted alone or with accomplices as there were no defensive wounds to the victim's hands or body,suggesting that she may well have been held down whereupon forty-seven wounds were inflicted,including three to the neck. Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito lied or changed statements as to their whereabouts during the critical hours,they were outside the house as Police arrived on the morning of November 2 2007 with the suspicion that they had cleaned the house with bleach (with the exception of Meredith's room),and Amanda had taken a shower in the bathroom where her blood was found mixed with Meredith's on a faucet. Contrary to your assertion that the persons in the crime had never previously met they had socialized on the ground floor of the building, home to four Italian male students where Rudy and the others had smoked hashish.

It may well be that an Italian Policewoman had struck Amanda twice on the head,though this is denied,and I'm quite sure Amanda at that stage realized this was no longer some kind of game but hard reality. When Amanda made up the story of her hearing Meredith scream and covering her ears she had been warned that she was no longer a witness in this process but a suspect and her statement could be used in a court of law,yet Miss Knox proceeded to sign that statement. As one member has commented,we may never know for sure what happened that November night six years ago,but the Italian authorities along with other judiciaries do not bring a case to trial unless there is a fair chance of a conviction.

Nighthawk76
11-22-2013, 12:50 AM
I read Amanda's book earlier this year and I feel she was a victim of the Italian police. This latest trial is just another attempt of the authorities to save face. I really wish they would leave poor Amanda alone.

Steve_uk
11-22-2013, 03:32 PM
I read Amanda's book earlier this year and I feel she was a victim of the Italian police. This latest trial is just another attempt of the authorities to save face. I really wish they would leave poor Amanda alone.
Any remuneration gained by Amanda Knox from the sale of her memoirs,media interviews or other outlets is blood money and I would urge the American public not to fall into this trap but to educate themselves on the case by all other means.http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=319287&highlight=Meredith+kercher

shotzette
11-23-2013, 06:59 AM
I read Amanda's book earlier this year and I feel she was a victim of the Italian police. This latest trial is just another attempt of the authorities to save face. I really wish they would leave poor Amanda alone.

I agree. The Italian judicial system is a joke and has been regarded as such for quite some time. She'd be crazy to go back and subject herself to that insanity a second time.

Steve_uk
11-23-2013, 08:56 AM
I agree. The Italian judicial system is a joke and has been regarded as such for quite some time. She'd be crazy to go back and subject herself to that insanity a second time.
You can't have justice when it suits Americans and turn your back on it when it does not. The US has not taken part in Kyoto,nor the International Criminal Court. Americans might want to reflect on what signal this sends out to their neighbours and allies and take a look at their own justice system and what benefits may accrue from compliance before condemning the defects of others.http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=news/local&id=9336963

shotzette
11-23-2013, 02:54 PM
Amanda Knox was found guilty in an Italian court, and her conviction was later overturned by an Italian court. She's home in the US and she's supposed to go back to Italy so those poorly organized and vindictive idiots can have another crack at her?

Besides, do you really think that Italy would be able to extradite her if she's found guilty? Highly doubtful.

Nighthawk76
11-23-2013, 07:51 PM
I truly believe in my heart that Amanda is innocent.

Steve_uk
11-23-2013, 08:23 PM
Amanda Knox was found guilty in an Italian court, and her conviction was later overturned by an Italian court. She's home in the US and she's supposed to go back to Italy so those poorly organized and vindictive idiots can have another crack at her?

Besides, do you really think that Italy would be able to extradite her if she's found guilty? Highly doubtful.
I have just been reading about your US Supreme Court,which has overturned 1315 laws since its inception. In the Amanda Knox case the Italian Supreme Court has overruled the Court of Appeal,and if I were an American I'd be asking myself why this has occurred,and why Miss Knox is being tried in absentia.

shotzette
11-24-2013, 04:33 PM
I truly believe in my heart that Amanda is innocent.

I honestly don't know if she was involved or not, or what was the level of her involvement. I do know that the case was flimsy and she was coerced into signing a self-incriminating statement.

I feel sorry for the family of the murdered girl because I think the actions of the Italian police and court system will mean that they will never get justice.

Italy has given us beautiful artwork, cars, clothing, and delicious food. That's about it.

Steve_uk
11-24-2013, 05:08 PM
I honestly don't know if she was involved or not, or what was the level of her involvement. I do know that the case was flimsy and she was coerced into signing a self-incriminating statement.

I feel sorry for the family of the murdered girl because I think the actions of the Italian police and court system will mean that they will never get justice.

Italy has given us beautiful artwork, cars, clothing, and delicious food. That's about it.
But you have taken it upon yourself to anticipate any verdict the Italian Supreme Court may pass and for that shame on you and all Americans who feel similarly.

shotzette
11-24-2013, 07:41 PM
But you have taken it upon yourself to anticipate any verdict the Italian Supreme Court may pass and for that shame on you and all Americans who feel similarly.

I'm speculating on what the Italian court may do, which is everyone's right.

Regarding, "shame on you and all Americans who feel similarly", that's a little extreme, don't you think? The Italian court system has been globally shamed by their mismanagement of this situation, and I'm sure that jobs have been lost and egos had been bruised. IMO, Amanda Knox has no chance of getting a fair trial over there. She'd be crazy to go back.

Vahan
11-24-2013, 07:44 PM
I'm speculating on what the Italian court may do, which is everyone's right.

Regarding, "shame on you and all Americans who feel similarly", that's a little extreme, don't you think? The Italian court system has been globally shamed by their mismanagement of this situation, and I'm sure that jobs have been lost and egos had been bruised. IMO, Amanda Knox has no chance of getting a fair trial over there. She'd be crazy to go back.

Steve_UK spews Anti-American rhetoric. Don't let it get to you.

Nighthawk76
11-24-2013, 07:50 PM
I honestly don't know if she was involved or not, or what was the level of her involvement. I do know that the case was flimsy and she was coerced into signing a self-incriminating statement.

I feel sorry for the family of the murdered girl because I think the actions of the Italian police and court system will mean that they will never get justice.

Italy has given us beautiful artwork, cars, clothing, and delicious food. That's about it.


Oh, I certainly feel for the family too. It was a terrible tragedy. :(

JamesG
11-25-2013, 12:21 PM
The investigation was so botched right from the start w/ people walking around carelessly and not handling evidence correctly, among other things... that it would be difficult to prove anything now.

Italy doesn't have double jeopardy like we do in the U.S., so they can bring it to trial again and again.



The prosecutor handling the case, Guiliano Mignini, was going through his own legal mess and probably thought that this case was his chance at redeeming himself.

He also made ridiculous and sensationalized claims that the murder was part of some devil worshiping sex orgy ritual that there was no evidence of.

Steve_uk
11-25-2013, 01:16 PM
I'm speculating on what the Italian court may do, which is everyone's right.

Regarding, "shame on you and all Americans who feel similarly", that's a little extreme, don't you think? The Italian court system has been globally shamed by their mismanagement of this situation, and I'm sure that jobs have been lost and egos had been bruised. IMO, Amanda Knox has no chance of getting a fair trial over there. She'd be crazy to go back.
We're not talking about North Korea or some African dictatorship but a European democracy,a Europe from whence the majority of present-day Americans have emigrated. The court process is not complete and should be completed whether you speculate on the outcome or not.

shotzette
11-25-2013, 05:41 PM
We're not talking about North Korea or some African dictatorship but a European democracy,a Europe from whence the majority of present-day Americans have emigrated. The court process is not complete and should be completed whether you speculate on the outcome or not.

Wow. Going to try to ignore the racist tone of your first sentence. Try being the operative word.

So, the Italian court and retry Amanda again and again, until they either get the verdict they want or she's on Medicare? That is ridiculous. As much as we Americans may complain about some sleazebag getting away with a crime due to double jeopardy, at least trials in this country end at some point.

Steve_uk
11-25-2013, 06:15 PM
Wow. Going to try to ignore the racist tone of your first sentence. Try being the operative word.

So, the Italian court and retry Amanda again and again, until they either get the verdict they want or she's on Medicare? That is ridiculous. As much as we Americans may complain about some sleazebag getting away with a crime due to double jeopardy, at least trials in this country end at some point.
The US penal system makes as many mistakes as European judiciaries with the additional danger that someone might pay the ultimate price.You either adhere to a country's procedure or you don't,and you as an individual have chosen to go your own arbitrary way. Call me a racist again and you will be hearing from my lawyer.

Nighthawk76
11-25-2013, 08:12 PM
Wow. Going to try to ignore the racist tone of your first sentence. Try being the operative word.

So, the Italian court and retry Amanda again and again, until they either get the verdict they want or she's on Medicare? That is ridiculous. As much as we Americans may complain about some sleazebag getting away with a crime due to double jeopardy, at least trials in this country end at some point.


That's what it sounds like to me. They will keep retrying the case until they get the verdict they want and can tell the world, "See, we were right all along. She's guilty".

shotzette
11-25-2013, 11:59 PM
The US penal system makes as many mistakes as European judiciaries with the additional danger that someone might pay the ultimate price.You either adhere to a country's procedure or you don't,and you as an individual have chosen to go your own arbitrary way. Call me a racist again and you will be hearing from my lawyer.

I didn't *call* you a racist, I said that the tone of your sentence was racist.

BTW, the part where you threatened litigation made me LOL. :crazy:

Wawwie
11-26-2013, 12:40 PM
I didn't *call* you a racist, I said that the tone of your sentence was racist.

BTW, the part where you threatened litigation made me LOL. :crazy:
Steve is going to hire a cyber lawyer to sue you via internet for defamation of character. :lol:

Steve_uk
11-26-2013, 03:05 PM
Steve is going to hire a cyber lawyer to sue you via internet for defamation of character. :lol:
I would rather not allow this thread to concern itself excessively over my legal options but to focus more generically on jurisprudence and whether or not it is legitimate to ignore a democratic country's legal process by means of the empty chair which is in place in a Florentine courtroom waiting for a feckless Amanda Knox to fill it..

Wawwie
11-26-2013, 03:29 PM
I would rather not allow this thread to concern itself excessively over my legal options
Why not? You brought it up when you threatened shotzette with legal action.

Steve_uk
11-26-2013, 03:36 PM
Why not? You brought it up when you threatened shotzette with legal action.
Because a young,innocent girl has died you fool. Now don't leave me with an even lower opinion of Americans than I already have..

shotzette
11-26-2013, 04:45 PM
Because a young,innocent girl has died you fool. Now don't leave me with an even lower opinion of Americans than I already have..

Yes, a young innocent girl died. Now another young girl WHO WAS ACQUITTED is now being harassed by the same corrupt and inept court system who botched the job originally. The Italian court system had all the time in the world to do their due diligence in prosecuting Amanda Knox. They chose to screw it all up.

If I were Meredith Kercher's family, I'd be more angry at the court system that failed their daughter. Amanda Knox may be many things, but criminal mastermind isn't one of them.

BTW, since you seem to have an issue with Yanks, would you be beating the drum so loudly if Amanda was a Brit and Meredith was from the US? ;)

Didn't think so.

Janice
11-26-2013, 06:15 PM
Call me a racist again and you will be hearing from my lawyer.
Good luck with that. If you can't handle what shotzette said without threatening legal action, then you don't belong here. It was not a racist allegation. Stop with the insults and threats. If you're so offended, use the Report feature.

Steve_uk
11-27-2013, 12:30 PM
Yes, a young innocent girl died. Now another young girl WHO WAS ACQUITTED is now being harassed by the same corrupt and inept court system who botched the job originally. The Italian court system had all the time in the world to do their due diligence in prosecuting Amanda Knox. They chose to screw it all up.

If I were Meredith Kercher's family, I'd be more angry at the court system that failed their daughter. Amanda Knox may be many things, but criminal mastermind isn't one of them.

BTW, since you seem to have an issue with Yanks, would you be beating the drum so loudly if Amanda was a Brit and Meredith was from the US? ;)

Didn't think so.
I have an issue with you Yanks(to use your expression)connected with the days when a minority of you supported and funded the IRA,but that's a separate argument to what's going on here. I certainly wouldn't be happy with any British citizen facing the death penalty in your country but might protest peacefully against this hypothetical case and certainly would not dream of interfering in the judicial process.

Let me spell it out for you again loud and clear: the court process in the Meredith Kercher murder trial is incomplete:it may well find Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox completely innocent,but unless and until this process is finished both defendents must be present in court to face these charges and it is not for you or anyone else to interfere with this process.

Wawwie
11-27-2013, 01:25 PM
Rudy Guede is Meredith Kercher's killer. The case has already been solved. So harassing Amanda Knox and Raffaelle Solleccito is a giant waste of time.

McGillicuddy
11-27-2013, 01:59 PM
There's no chance of Amanda being extradited, is there?

Steve_uk
11-27-2013, 03:02 PM
Rudy Guede is Meredith Kercher's killer. The case has already been solved. So harassing Amanda Knox and Raffaelle Solleccito is a giant waste of time.
There's more to it than that:you evidently haven't studied the case in any great detail and you might wish to comment further when you have done so.I suggest listening to what your fellow-American Barbie Latza Nadeau has to say and read my article here on the subject.http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=4850564

Wawwie
11-27-2013, 03:06 PM
Rudy Guede was sentenced to 30 years in prison for the murder of Meredith Kercher. His sentence was reduced to 16 years on appeal and later confirmed by Italy's Supreme Court.

The evidence against Rudy Guede:

Rudy admitted he was in the room.
Rudy's DNA was found in and on Meredith's body.
Rudy's DNA along with Meredith’s blood, was found on Meredith's purse.
Rudy's excrement was found in the toilet.
Rudy's shoe prints, set in Meredith’s blood, were found in the bedroom and hallway.
Rudy's handprints, in Meredith’s blood, were found on a pillow case in Meredith's room and on her wall.
Rudy had a cut on his right hand that was still visible when he was arrested.
Rudy fled the country.

shotzette
11-27-2013, 03:13 PM
the court process in the Meredith Kercher murder trial is incomplete:it may well find Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox completely innocent,but unless and until this process is finished both defendents must be present in court to face these charges and it is not for you or anyone else to interfere with this process.

The trial should be complete since Amanda was acquitted BY THE ITALIAN COURT, not the U.S. The current travesty was started by members of the Italian court and the prosecution to attempt to save face for the global embarrassment they started.

I wonder if Meredith Kercher's family could file a civil suit against the Italian court system for their incompetence?

Nighthawk76
11-27-2013, 03:35 PM
I read Amanda's book and also quite a bit about the case and am quite satisfied that Miss Knox is innocent.

Steve_uk
11-27-2013, 05:22 PM
I read Amanda's book and also quite a bit about the case and am quite satisfied that Miss Knox is innocent.
Well maybe you should read some more books and broaden your horizons a little.

Wawwie
11-27-2013, 07:09 PM
Well maybe you should read some more books and broaden your horizons a little.
He read up on it and made up his mind already. Just because his opinion may not match yours, he has to "broaden" his "horizons"? You are such an egomaniac.

Vahan
11-27-2013, 07:31 PM
He read up on it and made up his mind already. Just because his opinion may not match yours, he has to "broaden" his "horizons"? You are such an egomaniac.

Steve_UK spews anti-American garbage.

Nighthawk76
11-27-2013, 07:42 PM
Well maybe you should read some more books and broaden your horizons a little.


Reading Amanda's book and the other articles she became more just some college girl in the news to me, she became a real person. And I feel in my heart that she is innocent. That's enough for me.

Steve_uk
12-17-2013, 06:58 PM
I'm afraid Amanda Knox's no-show at the current trial in Florence will only exacerbate suspicions that she had an involvement in the death of Meredith Kercher and her reputation will remain forever tarnished however many emails she sends from the safety and comfort of her own bedroom.http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/17/amanda-knox-murder-email-innocence-retrial-meredith-kercher

Nighthawk76
12-17-2013, 09:08 PM
I'm afraid Amanda Knox's no-show at the current trial in Florence will only exacerbate suspicions that she had an involvement in the death of Meredith Kercher and her reputation will remain forever tarnished however many emails she sends from the safety and comfort of her own bedroom.http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/17/amanda-knox-murder-email-innocence-retrial-meredith-kercher

I'm not sure. I still believe her innocent. If I were her I would have stayed away from the trial too. And for the same reason that Amanda did. This girl had her life turned upside down for 4 years. I wish the Italian judicial system would just admit they screwed up and leave the poor girl alone.

Janice
12-18-2013, 12:23 AM
I haven't followed this case at all, but I'm guessing that double jeopardy doesn't apply in Italy. I'm going to have to spend some time on Wiki reading about this story. I watched a show last night on Jodi Arias who killed Travis Alexander in the shower. What she did to that poor guy was horrible.

Lee
12-18-2013, 07:41 PM
The US penal system makes as many mistakes as European judiciaries with the additional danger that someone might pay the ultimate price.You either adhere to a country's procedure or you don't,and you as an individual have chosen to go your own arbitrary way. Call me a racist again and you will be hearing from my lawyer.

Stop with the Anti-American Rhetoric and let people have their opinions
on here. If you hate us "Yanks", then I suggest you stay in England and
not post on here anymore. I agree that American justice is not perfect
and sometimes people have paid the price, but there are legal systems
around the world where while there may be no death penalty, innocent
people are far more likely to be put through the ringer than here in the
U.S. We have in my opinion the best justice in the world in our country.

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 03:49 PM
Stop with the Anti-American Rhetoric and let people have their opinions
on here. If you hate us "Yanks", then I suggest you stay in England and
not post on here anymore. I agree that American justice is not perfect
and sometimes people have paid the price, but there are legal systems
around the world where while there may be no death penalty, innocent
people are far more likely to be put through the ringer than here in the
U.S. We have in my opinion the best justice in the world in our country.
Oh please:you must be white,educated and middle class for you to make that claim. I'm sorry for making remarks which may have been peceived as anti-American:it's not Americans I object to but your governments,including Texas turkey-necked Neocons who have caused death,conflict and misery around the globe for decades. The days your governments can get away with that are long gone:we live in an interdependent world where the slightest mistake has consequences as your New York population discovered for themselves on 9/11 and Londoners at 7/7. To give you three more examples which you probably just can't see are the climate change issue, Palestine and the Amanda Knox case.Don't get me wrong: I love some of your culture including films and television which is why I'm on this site in the first place,but like my country one hundred years ago yours is in decline and the challenge for you when you are overtaken economically by China in the next twenty years is how you manage your decline successfully.

Wawwie
12-19-2013, 04:30 PM
Oh please:you must be white,educated and middle class for you to make that claim.
And that's a BAD thing??? :crazy:

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 04:38 PM
And that's a BAD thing??? :crazy:
No not necessarily(I'm all three),but it may skew your thinking to one particular point of view. Have you read the thread concerning the jobless figures? Come back to me when you have..

McGillicuddy
12-19-2013, 04:41 PM
I'm afraid Amanda Knox's no-show at the current trial in Florence will only exacerbate suspicions that she had an involvement in the death of Meredith Kercher and her reputation will remain forever tarnished however many emails she sends from the safety and comfort of her own bedroom.http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/17/amanda-knox-murder-email-innocence-retrial-meredith-kercher

Seriously, if you were Amanda Knox, would you go back to Italy? I sure wouldn't!

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 05:18 PM
Seriously, if you were Amanda Knox, would you go back to Italy? I sure wouldn't!
In my opinion she shouldn't be allowed the choice,and she certainly should not be reeling off emails from her bedroom to an Italian court. There are several putative criminals America wants back too numerous to mention here,but I have the impression with some of you that you wish to apply the law(the non-adherence to the International Criminal Court in The Hague is yet another example)when it suits and disregard it when it does not.http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-banker-extradition-tax-idUSBRE9BC0K520131213

Wawwie
12-19-2013, 05:30 PM
No not necessarily(I'm all three),but it may skew your thinking to one particular point of view. Have you read the thread concerning the jobless figures? Come back to me when you have..
What the hell does "jobless figures" have to do with Amanda Knox? :crazy:

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 05:42 PM
What the hell does "jobless figures" have to do with Amanda Knox? :crazy:
So you didn't read it then. There are contributions there from a black man who sees things a little differently than white,educated,middle-class people,which you quoted from my original piece.

shotzette
12-19-2013, 05:43 PM
In my opinion she shouldn't be allowed the choice,and she certainly should not be reeling off emails from her bedroom to an Italian court. There are several putative criminals America wants back too numerous to mention here,but I have the impression with some of you that you wish to apply the law(the non-adherence to the International Criminal Court in The Hague is yet another example)when it suits and disregard it when it does not.http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/13/us-banker-extradition-tax-idUSBRE9BC0K520131213


She was acquitted because of corruption/incompetence in the Italian judicial system. She'd be crazy to to back and even if she's convicted, she will not be extradited. This is posturing on the part of the court system and a waste of the Italian taxpayers' money.:rolleyes:

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 05:45 PM
She was acquitted because of corruption/incompetence in the Italian judicial system. She'd be crazy to to back and even if she's convicted, she will not be extradited. This is posturing on the part of the court system and a waste of the Italian taxpayers' money.:rolleyes:
That is your opinion shozette and you're entitled to it. The Italian justice system is entitled to take its course..

Wawwie
12-19-2013, 05:54 PM
So you didn't read it then? There are contributions there from a black man who sees things a little differently than white,educated,middle-class people,which you quoted from my original piece.
Are you going to answer my question? Don't answer my question with a question of your own. You brought up the "jobless figures." I asked you what does the "jobless figures" have to do with Amanda Knox? Stop changing the subject.

shotzette
12-19-2013, 06:01 PM
That is your opinion shozette and you're entitled to it. The Italian justice system is entitled to take its course..

And if she's found guilty?? Yeah, nothing. She will remain a free person in the US and life will go on.

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 06:03 PM
Are you going to answer my question? Don't answer my question with a question of your own. You brought up the "jobless figures." I asked you what does the "jobless figures" have to do with Amanda Knox? Stop changing the subject.
The jobless figures have no direct bearing on this case,but they were written by a man who has his own experiences to share and may take a different view from the mainstream due to a number of factors,including skin colour,race and level of educational attainment.

Steve_uk
12-19-2013, 06:30 PM
And if she's found guilty?? Yeah, nothing. She will remain a free person in the US and life will go on.
..but living her life always under the cloud of suspicion which will forever surveil her as she resumes the rest of her life. If this is what the product of a private Jesuit school in Seattle produces you can give me a graduate of the toughest public school in the Bronx any day.

Wawwie
12-19-2013, 06:54 PM
..but living her life always under the cloud of suspicion which will forever surveil her as she resumes the rest of her life. If this is what the product of a private Jesuit school in Seattle produces you can give me a graduate of the toughest public school in the Bronx any day.
The majority of Americans have enough common sense to know that Amanda Knox is innocent. She's not going to be living under any "cloud of suspicion." And you don't have to go to private school to understand that.

shotzette
12-19-2013, 07:13 PM
..but living her life always under the cloud of suspicion which will forever surveil her as she resumes the rest of her life. If this is what the product of a private Jesuit school in Seattle produces you can give me a graduate of the toughest public school in the Bronx any day.


Hate to burst your bubble, but the majority of Americans do not beleive she's guilty. Her life will go on. Probably the biggest "inconvenience" she may encounter after this is all over is not traveling abroad ever again, but after being a "guest" of the Italian judicial system for four years, she's probably over the allure of Europe.

Lee
12-20-2013, 07:25 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but the majority of Americans do not beleive she's guilty. Her life will go on. Probably the biggest "inconvenience" she may encounter after this is all over is not traveling abroad ever again, but after being a "guest" of the Italian judicial system for four years, she's probably over the allure of Europe.

Shotzette, there is no use in trying to get through to Steve when he
is going to keep spouting his Anti-American Rhetoric on here.

JamesG
01-10-2014, 03:19 PM
Amanda Knox Will be a Fugitive If Found Guilty of Murder
1/10/14


With a new verdict in the Meredith Kercher murder case just days away, suspect Amanda Knox has said for the first time that she is prepared to be a fugitive from Italian justice if she is convicted.

Asked what she will do if found guilty on January 30 of killing the British student in Perugia in 2007, Knox said: “In that case I will be a fugitive.”





The 26-year-old American was convicted of fatally stabbing Ms Kercher in 2009 along with her then-boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, 29. They were acquitted in 2011 on appeal after four years in an Italian jail.

Knox returned to her home town of Seattle to resume her studies before Italy’s supreme court ordered a new trial last year.





With the new trial coming to an end in Florence, Knox said today she had wanted to return to Italy to appear in court, but was afraid of being arrested, even before a conviction.

“I miss Italy a lot,” she told Italian newspaper La Repubblica. “But I am afraid, I was in jail for four years without doing anything wrong and even though I screamed my innocence no one believed me.”

A prosecutor has now demanded that she serve 30 years, claiming the supreme court had “razed” the arguments made by the appeal court.





Knox emailed a letter pleading her innocence to the presiding judge and it was read out in court — but that was as far as she was prepared to go, she said. “They accused me of doing a cartwheel at the police station the night of my interrogation and used my laughter as evidence against me,” she said.

“Even if I had shown up at the police station nude and dancing, that doesn’t mean I was an assassin.”





Ivory Coast-born drifter Rudy Guede was given a definitive sentence for his role in the murder but could qualify for occasional day release this year, according to Italian press reports.

If they are convicted, Knox and Sollecito’s case must return to the supreme court. If the conviction is upheld, Italy could launch extradition proceedings to force Knox to return to serve her sentence.

Sollecito was in court today to hear his lawyer argue that DNA evidence used to convict the pair was unreliable. Knox said: “He is much more optimistic than me. He believes in justice and is convinced he will be acquitted.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/amanda-knox-fugitive-if-found-guilty-of-murder_n_4567282.html

Steve_uk
01-10-2014, 07:47 PM
The $4 million she received from HarperCollins for her story more than makes up for any alleged miscarriage of justice. She might well wish to abscond with that sum with her latest boyfriend in tow,whilst more balanced members of the general public will study the case impartially for themselves.http://themurderofmeredithkercher.com/The_Evidence

shotzette
01-11-2014, 12:57 PM
Amanda Knox Will be a Fugitive If Found Guilty of Murder
1/10/14


With a new verdict in the Meredith Kercher murder case just days away, suspect Amanda Knox has said for the first time that she is prepared to be a fugitive from Italian justice if she is convicted.

















Ivory Coast-born drifter Rudy Guede was given a definitive sentence for his

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/10/amanda-knox-fugitive-if-found-guilty-of-murder_n_4567282.html

Who could blame her? She has no assurances of a fair trial. The Italian prosecutors are desperate to save face at this point, so if they were less than honest and slipshod in the past (which was their reputation long before this incident) why should she think they will be professional and above board now?

I said it before, but I think the murdered girl's family should look into suing the Italian Court system for it's gross negligence.

Nighthawk76
01-12-2014, 11:13 PM
Who could blame her? She has no assurances of a fair trial. The Italian prosecutors are desperate to save face at this point, so if they were less than honest and slipshod in the past (which was their reputation long before this incident) why should she think they will be professional and above board now?

I said it before, but I think the murdered girl's family should look into suing the Italian Court system for it's gross negligence.

I agree!

Steve_uk
01-13-2014, 05:15 PM
So both of you are acting as judge and jury in the Italian legal system? It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Give me a lawyer to discuss this case with,whilst you both get back to watching Leave It to Beaver..

Nighthawk76
01-13-2014, 05:35 PM
So both of you are acting as judge and jury in the Italian legal system? It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Give me a lawyer to discuss this case with,whilst you both get back to watching Leave It to Beaver..


I've never seen a single episode of Leave it to Beaver. Sorry.

shotzette
01-13-2014, 08:32 PM
Are we to assume you are a barrister by your remarks. Hardly.

The Italian Court has forfeited the right to judge this case by the sheer level of their incompetence and dishonesty.

Anyhow, all of our disagreeing is moot. No matter how the Italian Court rules, Amanda Knox won't be extradited; period, end of story.

Hopefully, the global embarrassment over their mishandling of the case will cause some house cleaning in Italy and create some much needed legal reform.

BTW, by mocking "Leave it to Beaver" are you insinuating that watching sitcoms is a waste of time? If so, why do you lurk on this board? Can it be that rewarding to perceive yourself to be a large fish in a small pond?

Lee
01-13-2014, 08:41 PM
So both of you are acting as judge and jury in the Italian legal system? It would be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Give me a lawyer to discuss this case with,whilst you both get back to watching Leave It to Beaver..

So I guess you are OK with political corruption and a corrupt justice
system? You accuse the U.S. of that but you are OK with it in the case
of a European country? Oh, that's right, you are British.

Coffeecup
01-18-2014, 10:42 PM
At the local library I see a good size book written about Amanda Knox. Looks to be a 600 page book. I can't imagine what the contend is other that her trial experience. It is a book I passed on reading. I did see a quick bio of the story of the crime. I can't imagine how little evidence didn't exsonerate her. The case must have worn her out.

Steve_uk
01-30-2014, 06:21 PM
So like the 1987 Bananarama hit Amanda Knox is Guilty of Love in the First Degree,though there's no Robert De Niro waiting talking Italian,or even former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito,whose passport has been removed from him. Unlike Oprah Winfrey the jury in the Florentine courtroom listened to the whole of the evidence, the outcome being a sentence of 28 years six months for Knox and 25 years for Sollecito.

Knox may well now be extradited from America to serve her sentence in an Italian jail. There are no winners in this case,though the Kercher family may well feel that finally justice has been served.http://news.sky.com/story/1203892/amanda-knox-found-guilty-of-kercher-murder

shotzette
01-30-2014, 08:12 PM
the outcome being a sentence of 28 years six months for Knox and 25 years for Sollecito.



Wow. Found guilty. Shocker... :rolleyes:

Did anyone expect her to receive a fair trial?

She still won't get extradited.

Wawwie
01-30-2014, 08:47 PM
Poor Amanda! If her extradition is ordered from America to Italy, I hope she runs away to Mexico or Canada. Unfortunately, she will have to be a fugitive.

The Italian judicial system is ********! Rudy Guede is the confessed killer of Merideth Kurcher. Case closed! Amanda and Raffaele should never have been on trial. The only connection Amanda had to Merideth was that they were room mates.

JUSTICE FOR AMANDA!!!

Zoneboy
01-30-2014, 08:51 PM
The Italian judicial system is ********!

The R. word rears it's ugly head once again. :rolleyes:

Wawwie
01-30-2014, 08:55 PM
The R. word rears it's ugly head once again. :rolleyes:
Definition of ********: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

That describes THE ITALIAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

Zoneboy
01-30-2014, 09:03 PM
Definition of ********: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress

That describes THE ITALIAN JUSTICE SYSTEM.

I don't need you to define the word for me. I'm just sick and tired of it being used to describe someone or something when there's plenty of other words that will work just as well. It's also not welcome here, see line 15.


http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/announcement.php?f=154&a=18

JamesG
01-31-2014, 07:55 AM
"Good Morning America" Lands Exclusive Amanda Knox Interview
1/30/2014
by Hilary Lewis


Amanda Knox will appear on Friday morning's "Good Morning America", The Hollywood Reporter has confirmed.

In the exclusive interview, Knox will talk to host Robin Roberts, according to a tweet sent out by GMA.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/good-morning-america-lands-amanda-675899

JamesG
01-31-2014, 05:20 PM
Amanda Knox on Guilty Verdict: "It Really Hit Me Like a Train"
Jan 31, 2014
by Sadie Gennis


Amanda Knox told "Good Morning America" that she "couldn't believe what I was hearing" on Thursday when she watched an Italian court declare her guilty of murder a second time.

"It really hit me like a train," Knox said of the verdict and 28-year prison sentence. "I did not expect this to happen. I really expected so much better from the Italian justice system. They found me innocent once before."





During the exclusive GMA interview Friday morning, Knox said she wasn't done fighting yet. "I will never go willingly back to the place ... I'm going to fight this to the very end. It's not right and it's not fair."

"This is an experience that I have to testify to, that really horrible things can happen and you have to stand up for yourself," Knox said, holding back tears.

Her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito was also found guilty and sentenced to 25 years. "He is vulnerable and I don't know what I would do if they imprisoned him," Knox said. "It's maddening."





Knox also revealed that she sent a letter to her lawyer addressed to Kercher's family.

"It's in the mail. Mainly I just want them to know that I really understand that this is incredibly difficult, that they've also been on this never-ending thing, and when the case has been messed up so much, like, a verdict is no longer consolation for them," she said.





Knox spent four years in an Italian prison for the murder of her English roommate Meredith Kercher in 2007. She was freed in 2011 after an appeals court threw out the conviction, but Italy's supreme court ordered the case be retried.

On Thursday, the court found Knox guilty and sentenced her to 28 years and six months in prison.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Amanda-Knox-Guilty-Verdict-Good-Morning-America-Interview-Video-1077041.aspx