Im probably in the minority in this, but I really cant stand the Lucy Ricardo character. I think shes selfish, self absorbed, greedy, annoying etc.

Some examples. How about when Lucy went on a hunger strike when Ricky wouldnt get her a Paris gown? To listen to Lucy, you would have thought she dressed in rags. What about when she wanted to move into the country? First, she wanted to go, then she didnt, then she did. And what about the big one. John Waynes footprints. It wasnt enough that she got all these souveniers, she had to get John Waynes footprints.

And what about when she gets mad at Ricky because she wants something and he says "We cant afford it". Ricky is not made of money. I mean its not like she doesnt have enough to wear. Its not like they are living on the street. I just find myself rooting against Lucy a lot of the time.

Who expected America to love Lucy for sixty years . Of course after 60 years people are going to find something to nitpick over. Watching the re-runs over and over again!

I've always thought that Lucy is overrated. In the three long running sitcoms she was in, some episodes are funny but I find her antics silly for the most part. I prefer The Lucy Show over I Love Lucy and Here's Lucy. The Lucy Show wasn't that good anymore after Vivian Vance left the series. In I Love Lucy, I think it's the Mertzes that actually provide the majority of laughs. Desi Arnaz is funny when he struggles with the english language and mispronounces words.

my mother has never cared for lucy ether and i know a few other people who are not fans ive always been a lucy fan myself

Im probably in the minority in this, but I really cant stand the Lucy Ricardo character. I think shes selfish, self absorbed, greedy, annoying etc.

Some examples. How about when Lucy went on a hunger strike when Ricky wouldnt get her a Paris gown? To listen to Lucy, you would have thought she dressed in rags. What about when she wanted to move into the country? First, she wanted to go, then she didnt, then she did. And what about the big one. John Waynes footprints. It wasnt enough that she got all these souveniers, she had to get John Waynes footprints.

And what about when she gets mad at Ricky because she wants something and he says "We cant afford it". Ricky is not made of money. I mean its not like she doesnt have enough to wear. Its not like they are living on the street. I just find myself rooting against Lucy a lot of the time.i do agree about the footprints lucy already had plenty of stuff from her trip ricky must have named at least 5 things in that big box of satuff not to metion a full autograph book that she convenenlity forgot about i know nothing was said on the show about lucy getting autographs but the stars that she did meet were so nice to her after all she put them through that im sure that she asked for pictures and autographs and more than likeley got them and also even though i thought the hunger strike ep was funny i actully thought it was stupid of her to whine and moan when she had a closet full of better things at home shoot i think the potato sack dresses were better looking than that jacques marcell pieces of garbage that lucy and to a lesser extent ethel were crying over

Just one question....If you don't like Lucy, why watch?

Agreed. And why post here. This is for fans of Lucy, not critics of.

The last two posts are very fair and I should have explained myself a little more better in my post. What I should have said is that there are episodes that are really funny. When the Lucy and Ricky try to break the lease, when Lucy goes to the hospital, when Lucy, Fred and Ethel make that cowboy flim and splice it in with Ricky performing etc.

I failed to make my point. My point should have been that sometimes Lucy can get on your nerves but other times she is funny.

I tend to think ILL was the best show Lucille Ball did. But she didnt do it all by herself. Desi Arnez, Vance, Frawley, and a great writing team was responsible. It really was a team effort. Years later, without those quideposts she had on ILL, her shows faltered.
The real genuis behind ILL was Desi Arnez.

Perfect example is today. The episode "Ricky minds the Baby" in which Ricky took care of Little Ricky. Now Ricky and Fred were distracted for a second and Little Ricky leaves the apartment and Lucy finds him. Now, it obviously was an honest mistake. It happens but not according to Lucy Ricardo. She made Ricky and Fred sweat but they had the last laugh because when Lucy went to see Little Ricky, he was in the cradle.

My point is, Ricky made a mistake. Did she really think that he would ignore Little Ricky?

What about the episode in which Lucy finds out instead of Ricardo it says Baccardi? When the minister asks Ricky if he wanted to marry her, Ricky jokingly waited and wasnt sure and Lucy flew off the handle. It was a joke and she took it so personal.

Why watch if you don't like the Lucy character that is how she was written and played.

The Lucy Ricardo character isn't easy to love, and I often wondered why Ricky even stays with her, given all the trouble she caused him. Towards the end of ILL she becomes very bossy and pushes poor Ethel around and abuses her a lot. You can go on and on. The Lucy Ricardo character is basically selfish, narcasistic, childish and immature. She cries when she doesn't get her way, she lies nearly every episode (mostly to Ricky), she steals and cheats. On top of that she no concern for anyone else, even Little Ricky. I think those traits either appeal to her fans or turn off others. I like ILL but am not a big fan of Lucille Ball, which is possible and not uncommon. Lucy was actually a role model for many females back in the 50's. Her character broke molds on how married women were supposed to behave, etc. Most of that centered on her dreams of show business and the access to it through Ricky. But, it's easy to see the not so good side of her. What's strange is how she continued to play Lucy Ricardo in The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy. In short, Lucy Ricardo ran from 1951-1974. Long run, she must have done something right. It's still hard to believe that The Lucy Show was always in the top 3 programs during its run.

Lucy Ricardo was a caricature. As such, her excesses can be taken in stride. The physical comedy of Lucille Ball was pure genius, and what really captured my attention. Some of the episodes are classic - and still captivate audiences 60+ years later. Sign me - BIG Lucille Ball & I Love Lucy fan - and PROUD of it!

And why post here if you don't like Lucy. This is not the forum for hating Lucy but loving her.

The Lucy Ricardo character isn't easy to love, and I often wondered why Ricky even stays with her, given all the trouble she caused him. Towards the end of ILL she becomes very bossy and pushes poor Ethel around and abuses her a lot. You can go on and on. The Lucy Ricardo character is basically selfish, narcasistic, childish and immature. She cries when she doesn't get her way, she lies nearly every episode (mostly to Ricky), she steals and cheats. On top of that she no concern for anyone else, even Little Ricky. I think those traits either appeal to her fans or turn off others. I like ILL but am not a big fan of Lucille Ball, which is possible and not uncommon. Lucy was actually a role model for many females back in the 50's. Her character broke molds on how married women were supposed to behave, etc. Most of that centered on her dreams of show business and the access to it through Ricky. But, it's easy to see the not so good side of her. What's strange is how she continued to play Lucy Ricardo in The Lucy Show and Here's Lucy. In short, Lucy Ricardo ran from 1951-1974. Long run, she must have done something right. It's still hard to believe that The Lucy Show was always in the top 3 programs during its run.

I think part of the problem is that today's sitcoms are so horrible, so pathetic and so unfunny, we believe THEY are good and older shows are unfunny and outdated. The Lucille Ball shows are among the greatest sitcoms ever. We can't see that today because of the terribly unfunny sitcoms today where actors mumble their lines, drop jokes, and thanks to the success of "Seinfeld" shows about nothing, with unclear premises, are considered masterpieces. Fortunately, there are those of us still around who know what is funny and know what is good.

..... The Lucille Ball shows are among the greatest sitcoms ever. ...... Fortunately, there are those of us still around who know what is funny and know what is good.

You got that right and are singing to the choir. All the I.L.L. Eps are wonderful and quite a few are masterpieces. I'd always pick Lucy over any current show. I.L.L. = The Greatest Show Ever imho.

When I was growing up, I saw both Here's Lucy and The Lucy Show but not ILL. In fact because I was young, I didn't even know about ILL for the longest time. It wasn't until June 2012 that I finally saw ILL. It's because here in Canada a station is airing the show.

I prefer Lucy's later shows. The reason is because women's roles have changed since the 1950's. In Lucy's later shows, her character is more independent - ie, she is a single mother, she has a job etc.
Even the movies Lucille Ball did her character was more independent - ie. 1963 movie with Bob Hope (title escapes me) where BH's character has to write a review about his wife's play.
Although not on topic here, but the 1968 movie Yours, Mine and Ours where Lucille's Ball character has a baby was ridiculous at her age.

Lucille Ball also played Auntie Mame in 1974, another independent women.

I prefer Lucy's later shows. The reason is because women's roles have changed since the 1950's. In Lucy's later shows, her character is more independent - ie, she is a single mother, she has a job etc.

If most, or all, of us who read this board didn't know it for a fact, it would be easy to imagine that Lucille's and Desi's real life together, in which Lucy was very much a show business success and could be very independent, was not exactly a comedy. And what the show became was not how it was conceived at first, which was basically about a show business married couple. But the space for comical situations, with which the audience could relate, were considered to be much greater if they were more like most married couples still struggling with business and household dilemmas. I don't know the stats, but I think I've read that in the majority of married couples in 1950, even childless ones, the wife did not have a job. Many women went to work during World War II, but it seems to have been either the reality or the wish of most of them to become wives and mothers again after the war was over. Hence, the "baby boomer" generation and the glorification of TV families like the Nelsons, Andersons, and Cleavers.

And even in Lucy's later shows, in which she lived independently, she was still childish and scheming to the extent you wonder how she made it from month to month.

When I was growing up, I saw both Here's Lucy and The Lucy Show but not ILL. In fact because I was young, I didn't even know about ILL for the longest time. It wasn't until June 2012 that I finally saw ILL. It's because here in Canada a station is airing the show.

I prefer Lucy's later shows. The reason is because women's roles have changed since the 1950's. In Lucy's later shows, her character is more independent - ie, she is a single mother, she has a job etc.
Even the movies Lucille Ball did her character was more independent - ie. 1963 movie with Bob Hope (title escapes me) where BH's character has to write a review about his wife's play.
Although not on topic here, but the 1968 movie Yours, Mine and Ours where Lucille's Ball character has a baby was ridiculous at her age.

Lucille Ball also played Auntie Mame in 1974, another independent women.
Mame was a horrible film of a great Broadway musical. She better in other movies including Yours Mine and Ours.

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I actually haven't seen Lucille's Ball other shows in a long, long, long time.
I am going by memory here. All I know is that growing up, I enjoyed them. I agree Lucy was childish. That I remember.
The difference being is that she didn't have a husband who told her she couldn't work. As an adult woman now, my perspective is different. Even before I saw ILL, I knew the 1950's way of thinking was not for me. Good thing I was not alive then.

king of comedy
Just a couple of weeks ago, I saw Mame on TCM with Rosalind Russell. Everytime I see something for the first time, I do internet research.
That is how I learned later Lucille Ball played Mame.

When you say Mame was a terrible movie, does that include the RR version as well?

The one with Rosalind Russell was far superior. It was the film version of the original Broadway play and I'm glad that RR repeated her stage role. Mame, the musical version, had Angela Lansbury who can sing but wasn't chosen to repeat her role in the film version of the musical. Lucy was miscast in the role and couldn't sing. I hope they remake it with somebody who can sing like Bette Midler or Cher. But for now, stick with RR version. It is much better.

Thanks.
One thing that you hardly see, but is refreshing, is an older woman who has the lead role. RR would have been close to 50 by then.

I think part of the problem is that today's sitcoms are so horrible, so pathetic and so unfunny, we believe THEY are good and older shows are unfunny and outdated. The Lucille Ball shows are among the greatest sitcoms ever. We can't see that today because of the terribly unfunny sitcoms today where actors mumble their lines, drop jokes, and thanks to the success of "Seinfeld" shows about nothing, with unclear premises, are considered masterpieces. Fortunately, there are those of us still around who know what is funny and know what is good.

This post makes no sense. Because modern sitcoms are (allegedly) so bad, people can't tell that I Love Lucy is good?

Im probably in the minority in this, but I really cant stand the Lucy Ricardo character. I think shes selfish, self absorbed, greedy, annoying etc.

Some examples. How about when Lucy went on a hunger strike when Ricky wouldnt get her a Paris gown? To listen to Lucy, you would have thought she dressed in rags. What about when she wanted to move into the country? First, she wanted to go, then she didnt, then she did. And what about the big one. John Waynes footprints. It wasnt enough that she got all these souveniers, she had to get John Waynes footprints.

And what about when she gets mad at Ricky because she wants something and he says "We cant afford it". Ricky is not made of money. I mean its not like she doesnt have enough to wear. Its not like they are living on the street. I just find myself rooting against Lucy a lot of the time.

I enjoy her, and find Lucy's antics funny. It's what makes the show. I believe she's good hearted, but childish. Sometimes she does go overboard. I believe she's infuriating in the episode where she and Ethel run the "Ladies Overseas Aid" raffle to raise money for their trip to Europe - conning a appliance store owner into donating a T.V. set fro their prize.

I have spent much time watching both this show as well as the next show Lucy had and am surprised people have affection for her TV characters. If she were a person in any of our lives we would not find her endearing at all.

She portrays perhaps the most self centered person to ever appear on television. She displays every character flaw there is. She is egotistical, condescending, mean spirited, conniving, hateful, a thief, a liar, disloyal, spiteful, belittling, and every other bad trait there is.

Many episodes have a victim... a person whom Lucy did something bad to so she could get what she wanted. These victims are usually unnamed characters who Lucy locks in a closet or lies to or sends in the wrong direction, all so Lucy can get the theater role or whatever the episode is all about.

There are even episodes where Lucy name calls, hits, kicks, pushes, belittles, misdirects, badgers, her best friend Vivian... on both series!

Why do people 'Love Lucy' when in this real world we would never love somebody like her? She would more than likely be that person we would avoid at all costs.

I would never wanted to meet her.

Lucy Ricardo was a funny character. She was way over the top, that's what made her funny. I wouldn't want someone like her as my best friend but she would have been fun to know. I still watch the show, have all the DVD's and will always be an I Love Lucy fan.

I Love Lucy is a great show! Lucy's antics can get annoying sometimes but that doesn't stop me from watching it

Lucy's bad traits are well documented and she could be very selfish and childlike.

But on the flip side, she was a good mother (who had a village to help her raise that child) a good enough cook, kept the the home immaculate unless the script called for it, a good dancer, she was resourceful, clever, resilient and could be very giving when the occasion called for it.

I personally thought the hostess pants outfit however misguided was a kind gesture that she made for Fred and Ethel turning her nose up on it made her seem childish in her response to it.

However that episode is still one of my favorites. :D

It seems to me that anyone who says that the Lucy Ricardo character was dislikeable because of her "selfishness" and "childishness" and "greediness" (etc) is taking the character and the episodes out of context.
The negative qualities are meant as a vehicle for funny episodes and interactions with others.
Of course when any actor plays a role seriously, it is like when an author writes up a certain character in a novel. A good writer can make the reader care about, or dislike , or disagree, or agree with a certain fictional person. An actor is supposed to play a role good enough to make the audience either like or hate the character s/he plays.
Yet with a show like I Love Lucy, or Lucy and Desi, the focus is not on the type of person Lucy Ricardo is for whining when she does not get her way or for asking for a lot from her husband etc. It is on the way she causes hilarious mayhem by just being the silly and ditsy person she is.
Of course if you look at it in a very deep way and take it personally, you are going to find that a lot of "lovable" characters from classic TV shows have a lot of strange traits.

For that matter Ralph Kramden is a time bomb waiting to explode and he is going to kill his wife someday. Also he is self absorbed, and always on edge and has insecurities because he fears that Ed Norton could out-do him in petty ways, and he is very controlling because he does not want his neighbor , Ed Norton to buy his own wife a dress because then his (Ralph Kramden's) wife will want one too.

But are you supposed to look at it that way , at least initially or so intensely? No. You would be overlooking the comedy element. The point is that Ralph Kramden is an "every man" and yes, he had temperament problems and he is oftentimes annoyed by his friend Ed Norton , but the things he brings upon himself isn't an outright moral lesson. It is about funny things happening to a funny guy.
Of course after saying that, it does seem that the Ralph Kramden character is like the Fred Flintstone and the Archie Bunker characters.
You are supposed to sometimes think it is good that they are the fall guys and their own stubbron, impulsive natures bring it upon themselves.

It seems to me that anyone who says that the Lucy Ricardo character was dislikeable because of her "selfishness" and "childishness" and "greediness" (etc) is taking the character and the episodes out of context.
The negative qualities are meant as a vehicle for funny episodes and interactions with others.
Of course when any actor plays a role seriously, it is like when an author writes up a certain character in a novel. A good writer can make the reader care about, or dislike , or disagree, or agree with a certain fictional person. An actor is supposed to play a role good enough to make the audience either like or hate the character s/he plays.
Yet with a show like I Love Lucy, or Lucy and Desi, the focus is not on the type of person Lucy Ricardo is for whining when she does not get her way or for asking for a lot from her husband etc. It is on the way she causes hilarious mayhem by just being the silly and ditsy person she is.
Of course if you look at it in a very deep way and take it personally, you are going to find that a lot of "lovable" characters from classic TV shows have a lot of strange traits.

For that matter Ralph Kramden is a time bomb waiting to explode and he is going to kill his wife someday. Also he is self absorbed, and always on edge and has insecurities because he fears that Ed Norton could out-do him in petty ways, and he is very controlling because he does not want his neighbor , Ed Norton to buy his own wife a dress because then his (Ralph Kramden's) wife will want one too.

But are you supposed to look at it that way , at least initially or so intensely? No. You would be overlooking the comedy element. The point is that Ralph Kramden is an "every man" and yes, he had temperament problems and he is oftentimes annoyed by his friend Ed Norton , but the things he brings upon himself isn't an outright moral lesson. It is about funny things happening to a funny guy.
Of course after saying that, it does seem that the Ralph Kramden character is like the Fred Flintstone and the Archie Bunker characters.
You are supposed to sometimes think it is good that they are the fall guys and their own stubbron, impulsive natures bring it upon themselves.

Very well stated. I think the topic of this thread is rather silly. We watch these characters on TV to laugh at them, not because we want to hang out with them and be best friends. You mention Archie Bunker. He's a racist, misogynist, homophobe, xenophobe. I'm against everything he stands for and I can't stand being around people like him, but I love watching him on TV interacting with OTHER people because he cracks me up. It's safe (and fun) looking in from the outside watching him drive OTHER people nuts, and knowing I don't have to deal with him personally.

Cheers is one of the greatest sitcoms ever. And it's full of some of the most unlikeable characters ever. Sam is an arrogant, sexist a$$XXXX, and a dimwit. Dianne is completely full of herself and obnoxious. Rebecca is a basket case who would suck the life out of anyone who has to deal with her. Carla is a mean and heartless and selfish byotch. Woody is an idiot. I don't want to know any of them, but I can't get enough of watching them through my TV screen.

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This is a message board about a show "I Love Lucy" not a fan page of "Lucy Ricardo and/or Lucille Ball." Opinions of like or dislike go hand in hand on a message board, opinions are just that and not all opinions are going to show love for the same things. ILL did not just happen because of Lucy but because of the entire ensemble and it is possible to tolerate Lucy but find her annoying or gasp even unlikable. The other characters may be the interest point, just because the title of the show says I Love Lucy does not mean it is a prerequisite of enjoying the show.
For instance, I cannot stand Lucy in the Paris episode but I laugh at Ricky and Fred, even Ethel to some minor extent but I cringe at Lucy and her behavior.
So before someone comes back with "if you don't like Lucy why watch the show....this is a fan page if you don't like Lucy you shouldn't be posting here...blah blah and boring blah" let me remind you this is a message board and your opinion is not the only opinion and liking other characters offers a reason to watch, a message board is not the same as a fan page, and ILL was not a solo act by Lucille Ball.

This is a message board about a show "I Love Lucy" not a fan page of "Lucy Ricardo and/or Lucille Ball." Opinions of like or dislike go hand in hand on a message board, opinions are just that and not all opinions are going to show love for the same things. ILL did not just happen because of Lucy but because of the entire ensemble and it is possible to tolerate Lucy but find her annoying or gasp even unlikable. The other characters may be the interest point, just because the title of the show says I Love Lucy does not mean it is a prerequisite of enjoying the show.
For instance, I cannot stand Lucy in the Paris episode but I laugh at Ricky and Fred, even Ethel to some minor extent but I cringe at Lucy and her behavior.
So before someone comes back with "if you don't like Lucy why watch the show....this is a fan page if you don't like Lucy you shouldn't be posting here...blah blah and boring blah" let me remind you this is a message board and your opinion is not the only opinion and liking other characters offers a reason to watch, a message board is not the same as a fan page, and ILL was not a solo act by Lucille Ball.



If you read my post a few posts above, I don't go as far as to say "If you don't like it don't come into this discussion" etc etc. I am very reluctant to tell people in any way ( and there are many ways to do it, direct or indirect) that they should NOT have the opinion they have. It tends to bring about the response of "You are the thought police" and "You are the one who is wrong" and "You are a (blank) for not having courage to tell the truth" etc etc, and a back-and-forth unwinnable argument ripe with slurs and insults can ensue that is emotional and intense but no one can learn anything and nothing can be proved except some people are proud of being ignorant, and/or ignorant behavior can spread easily and that trolls can easily press the buttons of others and get their goat etc etc.

I think that is an ugly tirade that is abundant in the internet.

I feel that there is no way to change a person of his or her mindset, and yes, no one is obligated to think a certain way.
I do point out though, that their response is not the target response of the context of the TV show and that of its main character(s).

Of course comedic TV shows have always been intended to be funny but they can indeed strike different chords. It has to do with the fact that since their advent, and also due to the fact that as of 2017, there has been at least some 60 years of different sitcoms of which many were made generations before some of us were born.
There are elements of social tastes changing as well as political and social changes resulting in a different outlook on how, say, women were often portrayed (ditzy and childish like Lucy), perhaps about how middle class people were often portrayed (too much time on their hands and they have petty gripes), perhaps about how people of certain ethnic backgrounds were portrayed (Ricky and his accent).

etc

I first posted on this thread back in 2013. Keep in mind, I was still new to ILL then since I hadn't seen this show from beginning to end until 2012.

I now get ILL regularly and have seen the episodes a lot more times, so I changed my mind on quite a bit from what I first posted.

Lucy is the most unlikeable/someone hard to root for in the earliest ILL episodes. That could be why it even most ILL diehards don't particularly care for Season 1. I believe most fans say that ILL took some time to find it's groove.

Some episodes I refer to are the mink coat episode, the anniversary episode where she made Ricky sleep in the lobby, the kleptomaniac episode etc. The 3rd overall episode where Lucy tries to lose weight ends in the audience finding out that she tied up some dancer and put them in the closet while she performed. The Season 1 episodes where Lucy shows concern for someone else in when I find I get more interested.

So Lucy is not always bratty. I think some viewers only refer to the episodes where Lucy isn't likeable. There are quite a lot of episodes where Lucy is very likeable.

Im probably in the minority in this, but I really cant stand the Lucy Ricardo character. I think shes selfish, self absorbed, greedy, annoying etc.

Some examples. How about when Lucy went on a hunger strike when Ricky wouldnt get her a Paris gown? To listen to Lucy, you would have thought she dressed in rags. What about when she wanted to move into the country? First, she wanted to go, then she didnt, then she did. And what about the big one. John Waynes footprints. It wasnt enough that she got all these souveniers, she had to get John Waynes footprints.

And what about when she gets mad at Ricky because she wants something and he says "We cant afford it". Ricky is not made of money. I mean its not like she doesnt have enough to wear. Its not like they are living on the street. I just find myself rooting against Lucy a lot of the time.

I just find it irritating when she's like "WAHH! RICKY! WHY CAN'T I BE IN THE SHOW?" Then he refuses and she finds a way to get in anyway.

Last night, I saw the first few episodes after Ricky was born. (not counting those flastback episodes)

In these episodes, Lucy is the "meekest" (is that even a word?) she is in the whole series. She's afraid to stand up to Mrs. Patterson and she is afraid to fire a maid. Then there is the episode Lucy is so depressed because she thought her birthday was forgotten.

If you read my post a few posts above, I don't go as far as to say "If you don't like it don't come into this discussion" etc etc. I am very reluctant to tell people in any way ( and there are many ways to do it, direct or indirect) that they should NOT have the opinion they have. It tends to bring about the response of "You are the thought police" and "You are the one who is wrong" and "You are a (blank) for not having courage to tell the truth" etc etc, and a back-and-forth unwinnable argument ripe with slurs and insults can ensue that is emotional and intense but no one can learn anything and nothing can be proved except some people are proud of being ignorant, and/or ignorant behavior can spread easily and that trolls can easily press the buttons of others and get their goat etc etc.

I think that is an ugly tirade that is abundant in the internet.

I feel that there is no way to change a person of his or her mindset, and yes, no one is obligated to think a certain way.
I do point out though, that their response is not the target response of the context of the TV show and that of its main character(s).

Of course comedic TV shows have always been intended to be funny but they can indeed strike different chords. It has to do with the fact that since their advent, and also due to the fact that as of 2017, there has been at least some 60 years of different sitcoms of which many were made generations before some of us were born.
There are elements of social tastes changing as well as political and social changes resulting in a different outlook on how, say, women were often portrayed (ditzy and childish like Lucy), perhaps about how middle class people were often portrayed (too much time on their hands and they have petty gripes), perhaps about how people of certain ethnic backgrounds were portrayed (Ricky and his accent).

etc
My comment was not directed to you personally or specifically. There are others on here that did say those things. More specific towards the comments like "Agreed. And why post here. This is for fans of Lucy, not critics of.....Why watch if you don't like the Lucy character that is how she was written and played...And why post here if you don't like Lucy. This is not the forum for hating Lucy but loving her."
I apologize if I clicked on reply to your post and gave you that impression.

The Lucy character is very complex and I appreciate many things about her. However, I feel it's unfortunate that Ricky, Ethel & Fred sometimes don't get the appreciation they more than deserve.

Personally, Ricky > Lucy... but there's way more to explore here. :)

I hate this show.

Lucy as a tv character is funny over the top she is like a cartoon character, lucy as a real person would be unbearable a horrible person and if fact she would in jail for some of the stuff she did.