View Full Version : I Guess That 'One Day At A Time' Just Doesn't Hold Up For Today's Audiences???
Brian Damage 08-06-2011, 09:10 PM Why else would no other DVDs be released on this once classic sitcom??? This was such a great show and no season 2 release or syndication at all? Why not?!?
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704Hauser 08-06-2011, 09:46 PM Why else would no other DVDs be released on this once classic sitcom??? This was such a great show and no season 2 release or syndication at all? Why not?!?
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000504815/polls_one_day_at_time_5037_483425_poll_xlarge.jpeg
You could probably say the same thing for Maude... also only one season on DVD. I've never seen ODAAT, but I wouldn't mind seeing it if I got the chance to.
TVFactFan 08-06-2011, 09:55 PM Why else would no other DVDs be released on this once classic sitcom??? This was such a great show and no season 2 release or syndication at all? Why not?!?
http://images.sodahead.com/polls/000504815/polls_one_day_at_time_5037_483425_poll_xlarge.jpeg
1. Because season 1 had horrible sales
2 The show is not on cable or local syndication in most cities so it don't have a new generation of fans in 2011
So the fact that it can't be seen and sampled, it won't sell on DVD
TVFactFan 08-06-2011, 09:56 PM You could probably say the same thing for Maude... also only one season on DVD. I've never seen ODAAT, but I wouldn't mind seeing it if I got the chance to.
If Maude can stay on cable like sanford and son and Good times that can change one day.
dakert 08-06-2011, 10:05 PM I want to see the "Julie and Chuck" episodes and "Julie and Jim Hutton" episodes
Brian Damage 08-08-2011, 12:36 AM 1. Because season 1 had horrible sales
2 The show is not on cable or local syndication in most cities so it don't have a new generation of fans in 2011
So the fact that it can't be seen and sampled, it won't sell on DVD
you are 100% right Solomon, I just wonder why this show is being blackballed?!
TVFactFan 08-08-2011, 12:38 AM you are 100% right Solomon, I just wonder why this show is being blackballed?!
defintely something that can be added to Antenna Tv since it;s a Norman Lear show.
brian I have a question for you on the jeffersons board about NYC
Brian Damage 08-08-2011, 12:44 AM defintely something that can be added to Antenna Tv since it;s a Norman Lear show.
brian I have a question for you on the jeffersons board about NYC
ok
megamanj2004 08-11-2011, 05:54 PM 1. Because season 1 had horrible sales
2 The show is not on cable or local syndication in most cities so it don't have a new generation of fans in 2011
So the fact that it can't be seen and sampled, it won't sell on DVD
I'm surprised it's still holding up on MeToo reruns here in Chicago! :)
McGillicuddy 08-11-2011, 06:04 PM I keep wondering, since All in the Family was finally finished off by SHOUT!, is there hope for Archie Bunker's Place,Maude, and One Day At a Time, all of which had one season released, and The Jeffersons, which had half the series released, then abandoned.
1960'sTVfan 08-11-2011, 06:54 PM One Day At A Time is OK, I would probably watch the repeats now and then if they air on TV, but I have no desire to own the show on DVD.
Vahan 08-12-2011, 04:16 PM People shouldn't care so much if a show they once loved back in the day has held up well or not. They should just enjoy it for what it is, and stop judging it by today's standards.
TVFactFan 08-12-2011, 04:19 PM People shouldn't care so much if a show they once loved back in the day has held up well or not. They should just enjoy it for what it is, and stop judging it by today's standards.
The OP asked the question because the show only has 1 season on DVD and not seen anywhere on cable or digital tv
Chocolate Moose 08-15-2011, 11:17 AM I'm not sure that sales are the thing that is holding it back from releasing it on dvd.
I understand that the later seasons of Happy Days won't be released because of the music (expensive royalties), WKRP too.
Mr. Television 08-15-2011, 12:00 PM I'm not sure that sales are the thing that is holding it back from releasing it on dvd.
I understand that the later seasons of Happy Days won't be released because of the music (expensive royalties), WKRP too.
There wasn't that much music on ODAAT. I think there was one episode during season 2 but that was about it.
TVFactFan 08-15-2011, 01:48 PM There wasn't that much music on ODAAT. I think there was one episode during season 2 but that was about it.
Yup so sales was defintely the reason
Kasey 08-18-2011, 02:41 PM A rep for Shout! has stated they won't touch Maude because of high music licensing costs.
Here's some theories that I've found regarding why ODAAT has done poorly in syndication:
*One Day At A Time (http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/03/friday-questions.html?showComment=1362759157585#c5649053158673066698) struck me as one of those shows that started strong and petered out, like That Seventies Show, is it a hazard of shows that feature teenage characters/young actors?
I think Norman Lear's shows suffer from this more than any other show from that period, and not just because they were saturated with topical jokes. His comedies have, for want of a better term, a "screechy" quality that to me is like gravel sliding down a sheet metal roof. Characters don't so much talk as they shriek at each other. In the 90's, in syndication, I found all of them (All in the Family, Maude, The Jeffersons, even One Day at a Time (http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/03/friday-questions.html?showComment=1362759691430#c2986314231950783591)) to be unwatchable. Now, thirty years after they had any relevance, they are almost like a time capsule of a unique period in television, when writers first took steps at pushing the envelope. Viewed in that context they can be interesting, but their tone still grates on me.
I wonder how much of the problem with One Day at a Time (http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/03/friday-questions.html?showComment=1362760618303#c1761770128806581874), in addition to the topicality, is that the characters grew up. Setting aside Mackenzie Phillips's problems, Valerie Bertinelli's character went from discussing being a virgin to being married, etc. I Love Lucy, to cite a classic example, added Little Ricky, but he didn't end up being central to the show.
A fact that may have played a part in ONE DAY AT A TIME (http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/03/friday-questions.html?showComment=1362798775739#c2137513898443540334) not doing well in syndication may have to do with CBS putting it into afternoon reruns five days per week interspersed within its usual fare of soap operas and game shows.
I suppose running season one during those weekdays helped a lot of people sample the show who otherwise wouldn't, but since I can't recall any other sitcoms getting second runs in their network's afternoon blocks, perhaps it was a failed business model, particularly if executives came to believe that they were watering down the money they could potentially bring in for syndication deals.
I think shows that succeed in syndication tend to be the ones either about children or those without children.
"One Day at a Time" (http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/2013/03/in-memory-of-bonnie-franklin.html?showComment=1362212215327#c6007182915784213069) was in the middle. At the outset, the girls drove most of the action, but the crux of the show was Anne's reaction to their problems and situations. Significant time was also devoted to Anne's relationship, friendships and career.
"Family Ties" started like that too, until Gary David Goldberg saw Michael J. Fox's talent and revamped it into a tradtional show about Alex. Because of the change, FT was a hit in the kid-oriented syndication hours whereas ODAT didn't have that youth appeal but also seemed out of place among the grownup syndication hours, as opposed to "M*A*S*H" or "Cheers."
Second, as the poster above was inspired by what was at the time a groundbreaking premise, as time went on, the situation became so normal in society and on TV, that the premise lost its unique punch.
I remember several sharp exchanges concerning Anne's decision to revert to her maiden name. Where does that occur now? On the "Parks and Rec" wedding episode, Ben pranked Leslie by "insisting" that she take his name, until he came clean and they both laughed about how ridiculous the idea was.
Finally, for various reasons, the show revamped itself several times. When these changes would happen in a new season, they weren't so jarring. In syndication, one week you might be watching Anne dating Richard Masur, a few weeks later, the girls might be married and how did Glenn Scarpelli get there?
janet42 01-31-2015, 09:38 AM I was one of the few people who bought the first season. I thought it was horrible. While I watched it, I thought, "I used to like this?" I guess my taste in TV show changed since I last saw this when I was younger.
Kasey 01-31-2015, 10:51 AM I was one of the few people who bought the first season. I thought it was horrible. While I watched it, I thought, "I used to like this?" I guess my taste in TV show changed since I last saw this when I was younger.
I was quite the opposite. I rememered S1 being rather weak compared to S2 and S3 but I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would once I began watching my DVDs. Still waiting for Shout Factory to pick this show up again.
I was one of the few people who bought the first season. I thought it was horrible. While I watched it, I thought, "I used to like this?" I guess my taste in TV show changed since I last saw this when I was younger.
One reason many sitcoms from the 1970s seem dated is that the issues they advocated then are considered non-controversial now. And ODAAT is no exception. They tried to cover some issues that were a big deal back then And they used words that were designed for the shock effect. What didn't help was that they weren't exactly subtle about it I don't believe.
I also think that ODAAT (https://moviechat.org/tt0068103/Maude/58c72d005ec57f0478f3a400/Why-has-this-show-been-such-a-syndication-failure) suffered from the same problem as Maude, where you have a really condescending, unintentionally unlikable protagonist, who isn't allowed to be made the butt of the joke like say Archie Bunker. What do I often get from watching ODAAT, Bonnie Franklin yells (and Mackenzie Phillips also was guilty overly dramatic and loud) all the time.
Also, in hindsight, ODAAT really wasn't that funny. The studio audience must have been some of the most stilled awkward groups of people you could get for a multi-camera sitcom. Granted, ODAAT was really more of a dramedy than an out and out comedy. Every episode has some kind of drama involving the oldest daughter and the mom. Schneider is admittedly the only genuinely funny character on the show but even to modern eyes, he can be so obnoxious and cliched as a foil for Ann's hard boiled feminist shtick.
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