View Full Version : The Chupacabra and the Mothman


JannTosh
07-18-2011, 12:03 AM
I know it is easy to immediately dismiss these kinds of stories as fake, but I found UM segments on these to be pretty compelling. The people interviewed all seemed like legitimate people and not loons, especially the Chupacabra episode where even people like the Mayor of the town of the attacks was interviewed. So, in the end, what do you really think is going on here?

Corkys-Place
07-18-2011, 12:15 AM
Even though these two stories were from the later UM Episodes (By this stage IMHO Unsolved Mysteries had gone downhill) I actually enjoyed both of them. I only saw them for the first time via YouTube in 2008. The Mothman story on UM has been widely panned by UM viewers on these threads. Despite all the criticism I thought it was pretty entertaining. Whether it's 100% fact or just plain garbage is another thing. :rolleyes:

WishfulDreamer
07-18-2011, 01:45 PM
I actually find Mothman to be pretty chilling! Especially the part where he runs up to the window and antagonizes the people inside. Even at a later stage for UM, I think it would be hard to present that scene and have it NOT be scary. Even the cheesier part where you see him reflected on the guys windshield in the daytime is disturbing just because of the music and screeching noises. Chupacabra I found scarier as a kid, but not really anymore. Especially since it's been recently claimed that they found an alleged one and it turned out to be a mutated dog or something? Does anyone know about this update?

1990 UM fan
07-18-2011, 04:11 PM
I found both to be quite creepy. With the Chupacabra one, the footage of all those dead animals and the part where it came out of the grass was frightening to me. The footage of the abandoned TNT factory gave me chills and the part where the lady went to her car and the Mothman chased her back inside and was lurking around the front window with her screaming "WHAT IS THAT?" was freaky enough. Interesting enough, none of these creatures haven't been seen in years or decades.

XCalibur
07-18-2011, 08:17 PM
I don't know what to make of Chupacabra, but if all the facts presented on the broadcast are true then it wasn't just dogs or coyotes, in any form. Dogs and coyotes don't have glowing red eyes, and they don't make two fang marks in small animals and drain all the blood and organs out of them. So unless there is a pretty big conspiracy of lies there is something out there other than rabid dogs or coyotes, they simply don't do those things in any form.

UMFaninMD
07-18-2011, 08:34 PM
Unlike some of the other posters, I found the Mothman segment to be quite scary, especially when viewed alone at night. I've seen the Mothman Prophecies which is also quite creepy, but I think UM did a good job within their constraints.

Chupacabra wasn't as creepy as Mothman but it had its moments. The possibility that nobody has really pinned down what this creature could be exactly is probably the eeriest part of the story.

Maybe if UM returns with new stories, they could take on the Beast of Bray Road.

mike890
07-18-2011, 11:12 PM
I find stories the stories ridiculous. However at my local library I found a book that was basically a compilation of newspaper clippings gathered from papers printed when these sightings were happening in 66 and 67. It was amazing how much mainstream coverage this story got back when it was being reported. These were not little blurbs in small town newspapers either. It made front page headlines in some major West Virginia Newspapers. I believe the book is called "Mothman: The Facts Behind the Legend."

Mysteryphile
07-19-2011, 07:19 AM
I watched a show a couple of months ago on, I think, the Discovery Channel...it explained what was really going on with the cupachabra cattle mutilations. It said that people just weren't familiar with what the natural decay of the animals bodies would look like and in all the cases the bodies that were found were just going through the natural decaying process...none were found to have anything unusual.

I was pretty disappointed, because I always found the cupacabra (I know Im not spelling that right lol) pretty interesting and creepy.

TheCars1986
07-19-2011, 09:34 AM
I watched a show a couple of months ago on, I think, the Discovery Channel...it explained what was really going on with the cupachabra cattle mutilations. It said that people just weren't familiar with what the natural decay of the animals bodies would look like and in all the cases the bodies that were found were just going through the natural decaying process...none were found to have anything unusual.

I was pretty disappointed, because I always found the cupacabra (I know Im not spelling that right lol) pretty interesting and creepy.

I always assumed that either something natural or a larger animal was responsible for the "Chupacabra" sightings/attacks. As for the Mothman, didn't the sightings start happening after the bridge collapse? Seems to me like a case of hysteria more than anything else.

Mysteryphile
07-19-2011, 09:50 AM
I believe the Mothman sightings happened BEFORE the bridge collapsed...I'm pretty sure I remember that from the Richard Gere movie...of course I might have been distracted because I had a thing for him at that time haha.

WishfulDreamer
07-19-2011, 12:47 PM
I believe the Mothman sightings happened BEFORE the bridge collapsed...I'm pretty sure I remember that from the Richard Gere movie...of course I might have been distracted because I had a thing for him at that time haha.

Is it true that he talks to the creature on the phone in the movie? :lol:

TheCars1986
07-19-2011, 01:42 PM
Is it true that he talks to the creature on the phone in the movie? :lol:

I believe it was a gerbil that called him on the phone.

WishfulDreamer
07-20-2011, 01:35 AM
I believe it was a gerbil that called him on the phone.

WHAT? Ok, now I've got to watch this film. :lol: I heard it's actually quite scary though.

Mysteryphile
07-20-2011, 03:51 AM
TheCars...jesus what an old urban legend....I had to think for a bit to even get the "joke"

rhzunam
07-20-2011, 04:30 AM
I know it is easy to immediately dismiss these kinds of stories as fake, but I found UM segments on these to be pretty compelling. The people interviewed all seemed like legitimate people and not loons, especially the Chupacabra episode where even people like the Mayor of the town of the attacks was interviewed. So, in the end, what do you really think is going on here?

In regards of the Chupacabra people being legit, so may have been but the mayor, Chemo Soto, is kind of a giant idiot. He really should not be used as an example. I still remember that giant "search" he led, which was totally idiotic and a total joke.

And I don't get the new love for the Mothman segment. I though the mystery was among the best possible stories but the segment they did was really bad and totally showed the lack of budget and quality in later UM. The Mothman going by the windows was one of the worst effects in UM history. This along with the Men in Black segment, where the best mysteries to be undone by lousy production in the segments.

WishfulDreamer
07-20-2011, 01:34 PM
Yeah, I missed the "Richard Gere has gerbils in his pants" meaning the first time haha. But that was pretty amusing and now I want to watch the film anyway. Perhaps one of his gerbils did make the call! ;)

JannTosh
09-05-2012, 03:47 PM
is it possible these creatures are just mutations of already existing creatures?

lettucesolve1
02-13-2014, 11:49 PM
is it possible these creatures are just mutations of already existing creatures?

that is what I am thinking - perhaps some big wild bird got exposed to some chemicals in the air or ground. or its mother did and had a deformed baby hawk.

cordwainer1453
02-15-2014, 08:22 AM
Or maybe it's just people making stuff up, or seeing what they want to see?

hatwink
02-19-2014, 12:55 PM
There are a lot of things in life that probably exist that people don't believe, or don't want to believe, because they want to accept a certain reality.These two creatures may be far-fetched, but it's possible they exist.Personally, I think Bigfoot, The Giant Congo Snake, and the Thunderbird exist.

TracyLynnS
02-19-2014, 02:39 PM
I watched a show a couple of months ago on, I think, the Discovery Channel...it explained what was really going on with the cupachabra cattle mutilations. It said that people just weren't familiar with what the natural decay of the animals bodies would look like and in all the cases the bodies that were found were just going through the natural decaying process...none were found to have anything unusual.

I was pretty disappointed, because I always found the cupacabra (I know Im not spelling that right lol) pretty interesting and creepy.


I don't believe in chupacabras or mothman, but I do believe in nessie. I know I'm weird.

Anyway, I wanted to address what Mysteryphile mentioned a few years ago regarding people not being familiar with the natural decaying process.

Recently, there have been two cases in the news of humans who were found dead under suspicious circumstances.

The first case is a huge controversy right now, so I won't get into it, but the body was found 3 weeks after death, in the woods, in warm weather. The body parts missing are the same things you would expect to have missing in such circumstances, but the family is certain it's a torture/murder.

In the other case, the mother went to the news to tell everyone that her son was the victim of an organ stealing ring. And they took ALL of his organs.

From what I can figure out, she's misunderstanding what the authorities told her about the condition of her son's body when he was finally discovered. I think she wanted to have an open casket funeral for her son, but he was found weeks (maybe two months?) after death, in the desert.

She was talking about his organs missing and his eyes being gone... stuff like that. I think she just didn't understand that a dead body decays in the elements, and those things are the first to decompose, so they weren't present when the body was finally discovered.

I can definitely see something similar going on with the dead animals found in the chupacabra stories.

As far as the chupacabras having "red glowing eyes". I dunno.... I think either the people are lying or they're panicking and remembering things differently than how they actually happened.

Depending on the situation in which they are seeing a chupacabra, the eyes might glow. Think: deer in the headlights or the way your cat or dog's eyes look when you take a photograph of them with a flash. The way many animal's eyes are made, they glow when a light is shined on them. In fact, even humans have eerie glowing eyes (sometimes with a red or orange hue) in many pics I've seen taken with a camera phone.

Could be street lights or some other light is reflecting in the chupacabra's eyes, making them look red?

SageSlowdive
04-27-2014, 08:32 PM
Chupacabra wasn't as creepy as Mothman but it had its moments. The possibility that nobody has really pinned down what this creature could be exactly is probably the eeriest part of the story.



Imagination, my boy.

nikkispence1989
04-28-2014, 04:04 AM
Could be street lights or some other light is reflecting in the chupacabra's eyes, making them look red?

Hi!

I used to have a guine pig many years ago (R.I.P Mr. Mean lol) and he had red eyes because he was albino. The eyes were pretty scary looking. He was bread by my friend who had an all albino family so I'm pretty confident that it can run in the genes and very rarely was their any in the litter that were normal guinies. It was £5 for normal and £15 for albino's Wowwwwzaaa!!

I watched a program before where they suspected that Cuparacha was a dog with Mange (I think thats how you spell it) basically it causes PARTS of the dogs hair to fall out but they think it could be a really bad case that makes them completely bald. I know its a bit far fetched but could it be an albino dog with mange?

Then simply the carcases of the animals are just decomposed to a way humans are unaware of not sucked off blood by this creature. I also read in a book than no living animal (apart from a breed of bat which doesnt use much energy compare to a dog) can live on just animal blood as its only diet. The animal would not have the energy to live the every day life of a canine. Unless this animal has evolved to live only on this diet. There's a first for everything.

I know its pretty far fetched but any thing is possible and this could perhaps explain all angles. I hate saying this though cuz I LOVE to believe in all these weird and wonderful creatures! Theres a whole lot of the world out there that we can not even imagain just waiting to be found =)

TracyLynnS
04-28-2014, 06:04 PM
This is the most recent "chupacabra" sighting I'm aware of. The lady who found it even told her husband, "Bubba, that looks like a baby chupacabra!"

What I want to know is when did she ever see an adult chupacabra to compare this "baby" to?

Turns out it was just a raccoon with mange, which I assumed immediately because I've seen a lot of raccoons around here.

Not sure if this mangy raccoon had glowing red eyes or not tho. They just look black in the pics.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/04/02/article-0-1CC59B0200000578-654_634x348.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595472/Is-mythical-chupacabra-Texas-family-finds-mysterious-hairless-creature-prowling-yard.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2597283/Mysterious-hairless-creature-believed-chupacabra-down.html