Name characters that started out one way and then evolved/changed personality wise on TV shows:

Rose Nylund- Golden Girls/Palace - By the time she was running the hotel with Blanche and Sophia, she was still sweet but was a mean woman when she wanted to be. Her insults were catty and sharp. Her humor was a bit more twisted. She even hit Dorothy with a newspaper for a change. LOL.

Corky Sherwood Forest Silverberg - Murphy Brown - She began as this Miss America pageant winner turned perky and sweet/bimboish newscaster. Later in years, she was more cynical and sarcastic with her remarks. She was less of a pollyanna and more of a realist.

Synclair James Jones - Living Single - She was this naive girl from the midwest who had a cooky, silly personna about her. Years later, although still silly, she was more agressive and a realist who spoke up for her self more and became pretty good with her comebacks. She didn't take much crap from anybody.

Anybody else want to name a few?

On "Boy Meets World" Topanga started out on the first season as a nature-loving, activist type.

From the second season and onward Topanga no longer had all of this eccentric behavior; like the supernatural and face-paint rituals.

Potsie Weber went from a daring punk type character to become a complete simpleton over the course of Happy Days' run

Ralph Malph went from a cool, even suave character to a prankster scaredy-cat by the end of his run on Happy Days

Chachi went from a money-obsessed miniature tycoon that actually did well with the girls to an aimless loser that couldn't hold a job or a girl by the end of the series

Kevin Arnold on The Wonder Years: Went from a character you could feel for to a jerk by the high school years (1991-93)

Daphne Moon Crane-Frasier
At the beginning Daphne was the physical therapist to Frasier and Niles father, Martin. She was funny, sweet and a bit eccentric. Near the end of the series she married Niles and became stronger. She was tougher and stood up for herself more. A lot of people didn't like her new personality but I embraced it. It was nice to see her as a stronger person and not afraid to stand up for herself. She was still sweet and funny but not a pushover anymore. Niles love changed her for the better. It was almost like they were meant to be together.

Niles Crane-Frasier
At the beginning of the show Niles was neurotic and stuck up. After he divorced Maris and married Daphne, he was less stuck up and neurotic. He was less wimpy as well. He stood up to Mel, his second wife, which is something he was never any good at. He had always loved Daphne from afar and was finally brave enough to tell her how he felt. Daphne's love changed him for the better. I think he always knew Daphne was the one for him, it was just a matter of time.

Andy Taylor-The Andy Griffith Show
Andy was a nice, funny, smart guy who ran the town of Mayberry without carrying a gun and being too strict. After Don Knotts left the role of Barney, Andy became more grumpy and less funny. He wasn't happy and neither were the viewers.

Jackie on Roseanne started out as a fairly level headed woman who just had a problem finding a good man. By the end of the series she was a lunatic basket case who seemed like she'd have problems tying her own shoelaces.

Frasier Crane started out a pompous, affected man who nonetheless was able to give wise perspective and guidance to his family, friends and listeners. By the end of the show he was much more buffoonish and didn't seem to have much plot left in him besides an endless stream of ill conceived romances, most of which ended because of his own foolishness.

Meg Griffin started out a nerdy neglected child on Family Guy and after a few years became a nearly psychotic, dope smoking, horrendously abused young woman who often seems to not be totally in touch with reality.

Kevin Arnold on The Wonder Years: Went from a character you could feel for to a jerk by the high school years (1991-93)


I noticed that too. He was a jerk for sure.

Another character for me would be Whitley Gilbert of A Different World. She started out as seventy five percent ice queen who was still in times of "A woman can't maintain a career and raise a family". When Debbie Allen took over as showrunner, Whitley became more independent and a bit nicer although she was still a "you know what". She was also in the first season, sophisticated and reserved then she changed her look and years later, she was also more physically comedic.

@andress_jade:

The viewers weren't happy with Andy? The show was still number one when he left the series.

Naomi on Mama's Family started out as a bit more subdued, street-smart and weary when she married Vinton. You could tell she had a rough life but wanted something more stable and better for herself. Her voice was different also. But when the show went into syndication, she lost that edge and became a shrill, vain, dumbed-down tart. She also seemed to lose some of the intelligence she had on the original run.

The same thing happened with Designing Women's Suzanne Sugarbaker. Suzanne was always a snob but she was elegant and softer-spoken. But during the years when Delta Burke was feuding with Linda Bloodsworth-Thomason, she became loud, crude, abrupt and she also became less intelligent.

Dan Fielding when Phil the Bum died. He went to the extreme of extremes, right up to acting like Phil was God or something. Those episodes are also rather on the creepy size in the way Dan went so over-the-top, I refuse to watch them.

Rhoda Morgenstern of The Mary Tyler Moore show:

She was always complaining and dumpy kind of looking. She was always down on herself and was mean to Mary when she first met her. They became friends and a couple of years later, Rhoda lost weight, had more condifience in herself. She looked more attractive and she complained less and looked much happier always smiling.

Eddie Winlsow from Family Matters was kinda airheadish in the beginning and then became more of a sexy, suave type of personality later in the seasons.

@andress_jade:

The viewers weren't happy with Andy? The show was still number one when he left the series.

The show may have still been number one but since Don Knotts left the role of Barney, the show wasn't the same. Andy Griffith even said he wasn't happy anymore by that point. His demeanor definitely changed in later seasons. Fans noticed the change.

Daphne Moon Crane-Frasier
At the beginning Daphne was the physical therapist to Frasier and Niles father, Martin. She was funny, sweet and a bit eccentric. Near the end of the series she married Niles and became stronger. She was tougher and stood up for herself more. A lot of people didn't like her new personality but I embraced it. It was nice to see her as a stronger person and not afraid to stand up for herself. She was still sweet and funny but not a pushover anymore. Niles love changed her for the better. It was almost like they were meant to be together.

Niles Crane-Frasier
At the beginning of the show Niles was neurotic and stuck up. After he divorced Maris and married Daphne, he was less stuck up and neurotic. He was less wimpy as well. He stood up to Mel, his second wife, which is something he was never any good at. He had always loved Daphne from afar and was finally brave enough to tell her how he felt. Daphne's love changed him for the better. I think he always knew Daphne was the one for him, it was just a matter of time.



I love this, and I have to add Martin Crane to this thread as well. In the very beginning of the show, he was almost bitter and clearly didn't like living with Frasier and having his freedom taken away. Gradually we saw him start to bond with his sons and with Daphne and there were many sentimental moments between the Cranes which I loved. One in particular that is a favorite of mine is in "Visions of Daphne" when Niles is upset over Daphne accepting Donny's proposal. He was so caring and sweet to his son, trying to comfort him. In the beginning of the series, scenes like that were hard to find. So in the course of 11 years, Martin Crane went from a grouchy old man to a loving, caring father and friend....

I love this, and I have to add Martin Crane to this thread as well. In the very beginning of the show, he was almost bitter and clearly didn't like living with Frasier and having his freedom taken away. Gradually we saw him start to bond with his sons and with Daphne and there were many sentimental moments between the Cranes which I loved. One in particular that is a favorite of mine is in "Visions of Daphne" when Niles is upset over Daphne accepting Donny's proposal. He was so caring and sweet to his son, trying to comfort him. In the beginning of the series, scenes like that were hard to find. So in the course of 11 years, Martin Crane went from a grouchy old man to a loving, caring father and friend....
Well, Andrea, you know I agree 100%. Watching Martin and Frasier's relationship change is one of the best parts of the show. I also love his father/daughter bond w/ Daphne. Esp. in the aforementioned ep. where Daphne gets engaged to Donny. She comes out to the living room late that night and at one point tells Martin, "He really is wonderful, Mr. Crane." And you can tell she wants him to approve of the guy she's about to marry. (Well, the guy she was going to marry AT THAT TIME. ;) ) There's more I could say, about the final scenes in "Goodnight, Seattle," but I won't, for obvious reasons! ;)

- Kristen

I would say Chrissy on Three's Company. She got ditzier as time went on.

I would say Chrissy on Three's Company. She got ditzier as time went on.


I totally forgot about her. She was not that dumb when the show started. It was a balance. She was a little bit of an airhead but still had her wits about her and knew when she was being played (like ep 13 when she found out she was dating a married man. Funny moment) but she became a cartoon as the years went on.

Laverne DeFazio on Laverne and Shirley... as the course of the show went on, she became more and more "loose," so to speak. Shirley was always the more prudish, goody-goody of the two, but in the earlier episodes, Laverne does things like adamently defend that she's never vo-dee-oh-doed - by the series end, many jokes are made at the character's full expense about just how indiscriminately 'sleasy' is. :rolleyes:

And then there's the whole Shirley Feeney accent from the first half dozen episodes or so... though no tears here over that being lost!

Buddy from Charles in Charge, each season he got dumber and dumber, by the final season he seemed like an adult-child.

Marion Cunningham-- She was nice, a good mom and would tell Howard to do things when there was a problem. But towards the end, she was shrill, would scream and just annoying at times.

Daphne Moon Crane-Frasier
At the beginning Daphne was the physical therapist to Frasier and Niles father, Martin. She was funny, sweet and a bit eccentric. Near the end of the series she married Niles and became stronger. She was tougher and stood up for herself more. A lot of people didn't like her new personality but I embraced it. It was nice to see her as a stronger person and not afraid to stand up for herself. She was still sweet and funny but not a pushover anymore. Niles love changed her for the better. It was almost like they were meant to be together.

Niles Crane-Frasier
At the beginning of the show Niles was neurotic and stuck up. After he divorced Maris and married Daphne, he was less stuck up and neurotic. He was less wimpy as well. He stood up to Mel, his second wife, which is something he was never any good at. He had always loved Daphne from afar and was finally brave enough to tell her how he felt. Daphne's love changed him for the better. I think he always knew Daphne was the one for him, it was just a matter of time.


ITA with these: ^^. (I thought I was the only one who noticed Daphne's change.) That's why this was such a great sitcom; the characters were multi-dimensional and had their "moods" and "hang-ups" yet grew in spite of their shortcomings and developed as people over the years.

Like Retro4Life said, Frasier did start out as more of an elitist and morph into a bit of a buffoon but that's what made it so hilarious! He allowed himself, if you will, to be more "human". (i,e, the episode with Sela Ward as the supermodel he met on a flight to Mexico, had a fling with and no one in the family believed him! They thought he was making it all up! :lol: To prove it, he tried to take her picture when she was asleep! :lol: )

Like Retro4Life said, Frasier did start out as more of an elitist and morph into a bit of a buffoon but that's what made it so hilarious! He allowed himself, if you will, to be more "human". (i,e, the episode with Sela Ward as the supermodel he met on a flight to Mexico, had a fling with and no one in the family believed him! They thought he was making it all up! :lol: To prove it, he tried to take her picture when she was asleep! :lol: )

I just watched that episode and I loved it. I laughed my fool head off. :lol:

Billie Jo and Bobbie Jo on Petticoat Junction changed personalities mainly because a different actress took over the role.
In the beginning, Bobbie Jo was a book worm and the best vocalist of the sisters, but when she was replaced by Lori Saunders, she became kind of ditzy and more comedic.
Billie Jo was more overtly sexual and flirtatious in the beginning when played by Jeannie Reily, but when Meredith MacRae took over the role, she became more demure and soft spoken, and a had a career as a singer.

Dan Fielding when Phil the Bum died. He went to the extreme of extremes, right up to acting like Phil was God or something. Those episodes are also rather on the creepy size in the way Dan went so over-the-top, I refuse to watch them.

He also went from a no-good sex pervert who sometimes had a heart to a guy w/ a heart who was sometimes a sex pervert.

Night Court:

Bull Shannon initially started off a little more serious and less buffonish and cartoon-ish than he did after at least the 1st season. Look at the earlier seasons of Night Court and compare them to the 3rd to 9th Seasons.

Harry went from a 90% percent happily go-lucky jokester to a somewhat less jokingly, sometimes uptight judge.



The Cosby Show:

Denise - she went from a wild child who sometimes had moments where she kept some of her wits to a wild child who tended to act really irrational.

Theo - he started off as a rebel kid/teen to a more mature adult and less of a rebel he was in his earlier seasons.



A Different World:

Ron - He went from a devoted ladies' man who was also sometimes a no-good schemer to a dimwitted no-good womanizer who also was also a no-good schemer.

Freddie - She went from a wild hippy-like child with a fun personality to a more serious woman with less of a fun personality.


Doug: A true example of what happens when a new production company takes over from another (case in point, when Disney took over from Nickelodeon). Almost all the characters severely changed personalities....FOR THE WORSE!

Doug - on the Disney version he acted more of a whiny little boy than he did on the Nick-era, especially when it came to Patti Mayonaise.

Roger - he went from a low-life, no-good, troublemaking bully who sometimes people can't help but feel sorry for him to a somewhat snotty rich boy who was far less of the troublemaker he was during the Nick-era.

Connie - went from a laid-back chubby girl to a more uppity skinny girl.

Doug: A true example of what happens when a new production company takes over from another (case in point, when Disney took over from Nickelodeon). Almost all the characters severely changed personalities.

Doug - on the Disney version he acted more of a whiny little boy than he did on the Nick-era, especially when it came to Patti Mayonaise.

Roger - he went from a low-life, no-good, troublemaking bully who sometimes people can't help but feel sorry for him to a somewhat snotty rich boy who was far less of the troublemaker he was during the Nick-era.

Connie - went from a laid-back chubby girl to a more uppity skinny girl.

I don't know about you but I HATED Disney's "Doug".

I mean back then when it was first announced I was ecstatic that "Doug" was going to continue as it was one of my favorite shows at the time.

After watching maybe 2 episodes I was like "This is sh*t, this isn't the Doug I know" and that was it. To me "Doug" ended in 1994.

I don't know about you but I HATED Disney's "Doug".

I mean back then when it was first announced I was ecstatic that "Doug" was going to continue as it was one of my favorite shows at the time.

After watching maybe 2 episodes I was like "This is sh*t, this isn't the Doug I know" and that was it. To me "Doug" ended in 1994.

And you can plainly see why Billy West (who was the voice of Doug on the Nick version) greatly detested the Disney version and wanted nothing to do with the Disney version.

These two are from "Buffy"/"Angel":


On "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Cordelia Chase (Charisma Carpenter) started out as a cheerleader "mean girl" and bullied all of the un-popular high school kids. As the supernatural entities begin to invade Sunnydale, Cordelia slowly changes her ways and comes to Buffy's aide.

In the spin-off "Angel" Cordelia's mean girl cheerleader ways are over as she struggles to become an actress and works for Angel at his office.






On "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" Wesley Wyndam-Pryce (Alexis Denisof) comes on as Buffy's new watcher. He is the type that always adheres to the rules and earns the respect of nobody due to his pompous ways.

He eventually gets kicked out of the Watcher's Council for incompetence and on "Angel" he is accepted as a rogue demon hunter. On "Angel" he's less caring about formality and, according to fans, became more bad-ass.

In the later seasons, when Alan Alda assumed more control, the tone of the series, as well as the characters, changed. The one that really stood out was Margaret Houlihan. She was way more sensible and grounded by the end of the series than she was at the beginning. In fact, her personality changed so much that I never found it totally believable.

How about Rich Haike (sp?) on Step By Step, especially in regards to his relationship with Dana? One episode, he kissed her and she had to boil her lip, and in a future season the two married. What was up with that? :confused:

Law & Order's Jack McCoy to being an obsessed, arrogant, abrasive, male chuvnestic pig, sexist jerk in the five to six seasons he was there. To being a lot more calmer, nicer, team player, not as much winning, and despite his arrogance coming back from time to time. He treated people with respect.

I Claudius Claudius himself to be a wimpy, stuttering, naive, scared fool. To being a surviving, wise, don't let the looks and illness fool you emperor that was no nonsense and tough as nails. While also being nice and sympathetic as well.

Dana Scully on The X-Files started out as a total skeptic when it came to paranormal events, but as time and experience wore on and she encountered so many weird and varied unexplained phenomena, she eventually became a "believer", and when Mulder left for a season and a half at the end, she became the "Mulder" to John Doggett's "Scully/skeptic" role.

Another one from "Buffy" was the vampire Spike.


Spike started out on "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" as a villain and originally Joss Whedon (creator) intended on killing him off early on. His character became very popular with the fans so he decided to keep him on.

Spike was a main enemy of Buffy in the early seasons and over the course of the show he begins to develop feelings for her and fell in love. When Buffy died (she was later resurrected) he actually became filled with grief and then worked as an ally of Buffy's friends.

At the end of the series Spike sacrifices himself to save everyone.



He then came back for the final season of "Angel" struggling with good vs. evil, however at the end he stood by Angel and his friends.

In the later seasons, when Alan Alda assumed more control, the tone of the series, as well as the characters, changed. The one that really stood out was Margaret Houlihan. She was way more sensible and grounded by the end of the series than she was at the beginning. In fact, her personality changed so much that I never found it totally believable.

I agree most of the MASH characters changed over the course of the series. But the I believe Klinger had the biggest change. He was originally dressing in drag to get out of the army. By the end of the series, he dropped the drag and became a responsible member of the 4077.

On "OZ" Tobias Beecher (Lee Tergesen) changed drastically during the course of the show.


He was a Harvard Law School graduate and succesful attorney who had a drinking problem. He was driving drunk and killed a girl crossing the street on her bike and was sentenced to 15 years for manslaughter and driving while intoxicated.

When he first came to the prison he was very timid and wasn't street smart so he became an easy target for the more violent and stronger inmates. After suffering abuse and ridicule from the leader of the Aryan Brotherhood, Vern Schillinger (J.K. Simmons), Beecher begins to change and become more confrontational and violent himself.

He even displayed psychotic behavior, that even he himself was surprised of his own actions, when an inmate made him suck his penis...

he bit the top of the other inmate's penis off



So he went from a very mild-mannered and weak person to becoming much more violent. He also fell in love with another inmate when he had no known same-sex relations before heading to prison.

On Mama's Family, I would add Vinton who was an intelligent guy raising his children to a total idiot when the show went into syndication.

A Different World:

Ron - He went from a devoted ladies' man who was also sometimes a no-good schemer to a dimwitted no-good womanizer who also was also a no-good schemer.

Freddie - She went from a wild hippy-like child with a fun personality to a more serious woman with less of a fun personality.




In regards to these two, Ron actually started as a sweet, dorky sidekick that fairly nice, he then became more assertive and a loud mouthed ladies' man.

Freddie was a sweet, naive 17 y/o girl who was a bit sheltered to the reality of the world. She then became a dedicated hippie/human right activist. She then had more of a serious, no nonsense personality mixed with a less than moderate portion of seriousness.

If you're talking about a permanent personality change laura winslow went from dissmissing steve's advances season after season to finally marrying him in the end.

If you're talking temporary changes you got steve urkel who became stefan urquelle and some other people and you got Latka from taxi his personality change to a more suave person from time to time.

Here's one that goes way back!

The most drastic change in personality that I've ever seen on a sitcom happened with none other than Ricky Nelson on "The Adventures Of Ozzie and Harriet". As a child, he was 'the irrepressible little Ricky' always ready with a joke or a wisecrack and always looking for ways to torment his brother David. He was simply a lovable little brat. As he grew up, he became quieter and more serious, especially regarding his music, and his sense of humour became more gentle and good-natured. This may have been due to maturity or maybe he was getting bored after doing so many episodes. Anyway, I tend to like the older Rick better, even though the younger Ricky was always good for a few laughs. (Just for the record, I have always liked Dave better than Rick. I liked his character throughout the whole series, or at least the parts I'm able to watch online.)

Let me also add Edna Babish (later Edna Babish DeFazio) from Laverne and Shirley. She started out rather rude and abrasive toward the bottlecappers, only to develop a heart and some feelings as the series went on.

Chandler on FRIENDS , he went from being an immature , sardonic prankster to a mature husband and father.
Rachel at the beginning of the show was a spoiled , self centered daddy's girl who was striking out on her own for the first time. By the end of the series, she became a competent business woman and single mother.
Miranda was a hard core business lawyer, but then she let her guard down and let Steve into her life, had Brady, and finally made the move by marrying Steve and moving to Brooklyn to take care of his ailing mother on Sex and the City.

One person we are forgetting is Roseanne Conner on "Rosenne". She was an edgy, jolly woman with an attitude. She smiled and laughed more in the beginning. By season six, she was more moody and more like a "B". She was kind of a "B" in earlier eps but she was just unbearable at times during the last four seasons. Whew! I still love those last few seasons though.


Becky Conner was the All American Girl with some edge and sesible. When Sarah Chalke took over the role, Becky became too sweet and girly girly. Then airhead jokes were written in. However, when she was angry, she was angry whether it be as her husband, Mark, her parents or her sister, she was pretty harsh with her words.

Vivian Smith Banks on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. She was a sophisticated, aggresive, sexy, intelligent college professor with a quick no nonsense wit. When she became pregnant, she was whiny and fighting over food with her obese husband. LOL. She was more of a comic relief. When DM-R took over the role, Vivian was more serious, sweeter and more laid back, sexy in a 70's throwback kind of way. She did have a temper when mad and was not to be messed with. DM-R is my favorite Vivian. LOL.

One person we are forgetting is Roseanne Conner on "Rosenne". She was an edgy, jolly woman with an attitude. She smiled and laughed more in the beginning. By season six, she was more moody and more like a "B". She was kind of a "B" in earlier eps but she was just unbearable at times during the last four seasons. Whew! I still love those last few seasons though.


Becky Conner was the All American Girl with some edge and sesible. When Sarah Chalke took over the role, Becky became too sweet and girly girly. Then airhead jokes were written in. However, when she was angry, she was angry whether it be as her husband, Mark, her parents or her sister, she was pretty harsh with her words.

Vivian Smith Banks on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. She was a sophisticated, aggresive, sexy, intelligent college professor with a quick no nonsense wit. When she became pregnant, she was whiny and fighting over food with her obese husband. LOL. She was more of a comic relief. When DM-R took over the role, Vivian was more serious, sweeter and more laid back, sexy in a 70's throwback kind of way. She did have a temper when mad and was not to be messed with. DM-R is my favorite Vivian. LOL.

I agree with you about Roseanne. She was a lot more funnier in the beginning of the show then near the end. She just got to where I couldn't stand her anymore.

I liked Sarah Chalke's Becky better than Lecy Goranson's version. I always thought Lecy came off as a selfish, spoiled brat. I liked Lecy in the beginning, but before Sarah took over I couldn't stand her! :mad:

I disagree with you about Daphne Maxwell-Reid's Vivian. I couldn't stand her. I loved Janet Hubert's Vivian much more. Daphne didn't have the sassiness and the spunk that Janet did. When Daphne took over, I couldn't stand Vivian. The Daphne years are my least favorites. There are a few eps I like during her run, but I prefer the seasons before she took over the role.

I agree with you about Roseanne. She was a lot more funnier in the beginning of the show then near the end. She just got to where I couldn't stand her anymore.

I liked Sarah Chalke's Becky better than Lecy Goranson's version. I always thought Lecy came off as a selfish, spoiled brat. I liked Lecy in the beginning, but before Sarah took over I couldn't stand her! :mad:

I disagree with you about Daphne Maxwell-Reid's Vivian. I couldn't stand her. I loved Janet Hubert's Vivian much more. Daphne didn't have the sassiness and the spunk that Janet did. When Daphne took over, I couldn't stand Vivian. The Daphne years are my least favorites. There are a few eps I like during her run, but I prefer the seasons before she took over the role.

Roseanne had in later years a "I am woman! Hear me roar and roar and roooaaarrr attitude and all men are pigs and I run this joint" attitude.

I loved Lecy's portrayal of Becky than Sarah's. Becky #1 seemed to fit within that Conner family mold. Sarah, not so much. When she came back to do an episode because Lecy couldn't make it, she'd basically be used as set dressing. No SL focus on her but was just so we'd know that the oldeset Conner daughter was there and existed. In the last season, she was back on the show full time but was in a handful of episodes and had five lines or less for the most part. I recall her having only one line during one episode when The family spent a week or weekend at a stuffy, rich family's house. I thought she was cute and all and a sweethart but I liked Lecy's better.

We will have to agree about DM-R, I guess. I know where you're coming from but I do like her and I thought she fit the role of mother and wife of judge perfectly. The problem is that the producers did not want to focus on developing the Vivian character. Janet Hubert was not even given 15 episodes for season four. They offered her 10 and she didn't that. By the times she changed her mind, then they pulled the offer off the table. Daphne at times was in the background and I think that's how they wanted it. Like Sarah, Daphne Reid was used as set dressing/filler to complete the presence of the full family. I bet Mrs. Reid was like "Child, just give me my check so I can go home." LOL. :lol:

Annie Camden on 7th Heaven.

She went from your likeable TV mother to a complete crazy person. I HATE that menopause storyline they did with her.

How about Paris Geller (Liza Weil) from Gilmore Girls? She was in a clique of mean girls at the beginning, and there was certainly no love lost between her and Rory Gilmore (Alexis Bledel). But as time went on, the girls went from bitter enemies to best friends.

Tracy from House of Payne. She was sophisicated and a together woman then turned into a vengeful and scorned baby mama.

Leroy Brown from Meet the Browns. He was a little nasty but pretty nice at first but turned into a mean old man who threw insults at many every two seconds.

Amy Tompkins-its a living. She was a sweet, naïve texan but then became more of a edgy, sarcastic type of gal in the later years.

Nancy Bebe- its a living. She was a snob that looked down on you and was more of a comic relief that seemed worried by the looks on her face.

Dot Higgins- its a living. She was sweet, cute, spunky, naïve then was more grounded then when the program was 1st run syndicated, she was a walking cartoon. By the last two seasons, she had a tad more sophistication about her but still was cooky.

Cassie Cranston- its a living. She was brassy, really quick witted and sarcastic. Later on, although still tough, we saw a softer side to her.

Cool topic. Here are a few that jump out at me:

Margaret Houlihan on M*A*S*H. Her character seemed to be all over the place after about the 2nd season and especially toward the end to where I couldnt stand when she would be the focal point.

Radar also from M*A*S*H. In the first few seasons he seemed innocent but wiley , but seemed to regress after that. I had heard it was done on Gary Burghoffs request though, not sure if thats true but what I had heard.

Potsie Weber on Happy Days. The first season I thought he was pretty cool. Then about season 4 or so they just dumbed him down so much and I know I wouldnt even want to hang around with him. Not sure why they did that but sure wasnt a good move i/m/o.

Joey Tribbiani on Friends. In the beginning he was "simple" and it was pretty funny. But in the later seasons it seemed they just made him into a total buffoon who im surprised remembered how to breath. I mean the episode with the "identical hand twins" AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I mean c'mon!!! That was pitiful and I cant believe he even agreed to do that part of the show, that was sooooo bad.

Well theres a few of mine for ya.:wave:

In the later seasons, when Alan Alda assumed more control, the tone of the series, as well as the characters, changed. The one that really stood out was Margaret Houlihan. She was way more sensible and grounded by the end of the series than she was at the beginning. In fact, her personality changed so much that I never found it totally believable.

Yeah I am with you! I liked her alot in the first 3 seasons but after she got with Penobscot, ahhhh I could not stand her, was just so annoying. By the end of the series I basically would cringe if the show was focused on her :( I mean there were still times I liked her of course but overall she really went downhill i/m/o.

Potsie Weber on Happy Days. The first season I thought he was pretty cool. Then about season 4 or so they just dumbed him down so much and I know I wouldnt even want to hang around with him. Not sure why they did that but sure wasnt a good move i/m/o.

No offense to either Anson Williams or Donny Most, but it seemed that Potsie and Ralph were almost the same character. Then once Donny Most (and Ron Howard) left and Anson Williams stayed, it seemed that there wasn't much point in keeping Potsie around.

No offense to either Anson Williams or Donny Most, but it seemed that Potsie and Ralph were almost the same character. Then once Donny Most (and Ron Howard) left and Anson Williams stayed, it seemed that there wasn't much point in keeping Potsie around.

Thats a great point, never thought of it like that but you are right. I felt bad for Anson (i know he was still getting paid haha) because its like he was bascially a moving prop.

And thanks Catlover for having the 9/11 icon. I will now do the same and change mine as well.

I would say Marcy from "Married with Children". She was this happily married, successful business woman prototype. She wasn't as nagging and such a walking talking feminist first time around as she was in later years.

Kelly Bundy (of Married With Children). She was not as dumb in the beginning. She came off more like a rebellious 80's type of teen. As years progressed so did her intelligence. The only time she seemed really smart and intelligent was when she was cleverly insulting her brother, Bud. LOL.

Steve Rhoades (of Married withh Children) His first four years on the show, he was the average character with some edge. When he guest starred in later years, he was a bitter rival for his ex-wife, Marcy. They would really be insluting to one another. They were completely two different people.

I don't know about you but I HATED Disney's "Doug".

I mean back then when it was first announced I was ecstatic that "Doug" was going to continue as it was one of my favorite shows at the time.

After watching maybe 2 episodes I was like "This is sh*t, this isn't the Doug I know" and that was it. To me "Doug" ended in 1994.
I'm almost going off topic here, but again with the hate for Disney's version of "Doug"! I don't get why people find it so much worse than Nickelodeon's version (except Nickelodeon's intro song was better than Disney's).

I'm almost going off topic here, but again with the hate for Disney's version of "Doug"! I don't get why people find it so much worse than Nickelodeon's version (except Nickelodeon's intro song was better than Disney's).

Disney's Doug completely ruined it. It had too many changes going on to try to throw in your face that this was "a new Doug".


- too many "very special episodes"
- Doug's voiced by somebody else
- the bully Roger becomes rich
- the Honker Burger is gone and the new "hangout" is Swirly's
- Doug gets a baby sister
- they changed Patty's hair
- the artwork looks too polished, Nick's Doug looked more raw (my opinion)



That's pretty much why I never cared for Disney's version.

No offense to either Anson Williams or Donny Most, but it seemed that Potsie and Ralph were almost the same character. Then once Donny Most (and Ron Howard) left and Anson Williams stayed, it seemed that there wasn't much point in keeping Potsie around.

In the beginning it seemed like Potsie was supposed to be the "bad boy" who got the other guys into trouble with his antics, but after the Fonz got hot, Potsie did indeed seem to morph into a Ralph clone, just being dense and gullible all the time. He and Ralph got to be like Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

Good call.

Doug: A true example of what happens when a new production company takes over from another (case in point, when Disney took over from Nickelodeon). Almost all the characters severely changed personalities....FOR THE WORSE!

Doug - on the Disney version he acted more of a whiny little boy than he did on the Nick-era, especially when it came to Patti Mayonaise.

Roger - he went from a low-life, no-good, troublemaking bully who sometimes people can't help but feel sorry for him to a somewhat snotty rich boy who was far less of the troublemaker he was during the Nick-era.

Connie - went from a laid-back chubby girl to a more uppity skinny girl.

I remember you said you preferred the Disney theme song to the Nickelodeon one. Is that right?

While Nickelodeon's version was better, I didn't think Disney's version was a bad as many people made it out to be. Most of the original cast was still there, and I thought they did well with whatever they were provided with.

I also thought the titles cards were better on the Disney version. In the original version, it would be the same handful of variations used over and over again. But in Disney's version, it was always different, depending on the episode.

Still, overall, Nickelodeon's version is the winner.

I remember you said you preferred the Disney theme song to the Nickelodeon one. Is that right?

While Nickelodeon's version was better, I didn't think Disney's version was a bad as many people made it out to be. Most of the original cast was still there, and I thought they did well with whatever they were provided with.

I also thought the titles cards were better on the Disney version. In the original version, it would be the same handful of variations used over and over again. But in Disney's version, it was always different, depending on the episode.

Still, overall, Nickelodeon's version is the winner.

Originally I did.

As a kid growing up I did like the Disney version. And when I 1st heard that they were going to bring Doug I was excited.

But growing up nowadays the Disney version disappointed me in some areas.

It came off as if Disney was taking everything that Doug fans knew about the Nickelodeon version and took a giant sledgehammer to it.

Though I didn't mind Dirtbike (Doug's new little sister) too much and we got to see what Skunky Beaumont (who everyone was talking about so much on the Nick version) looked like in person.

It was the way they threw all the new random changes in my face so fast that made it not as enjoyable.

Ex's:
- Roger went from being Doug's antanogist who sometimes couldn't help but to feel sorry for at times to a rich boy who was far more nicer to Doug and less of the bully he was.

- Connie goes from a chubby, sweet girl to a somewhat stuck-up skinny girl

- Patti not only cuts her hair but also stopped wearing the skirts.

- Doug's voice sounds more whiny-like than on the Nick version.

- The Honker Burger got torn down.

It wasn't so much the changes, it was just the way Disney slapped me in the face so randomly w/ all those random changes too soon.

Yes, I prefer the Nickelodeon intro over the Disney one, and Patty seems to have been prettier in the Nickeldeon than in the Disney version. I don't remember Conny as a chubby girl (I don't remember the Nickelodeon episodes as well as I remember the Disney episodes), but it sucks if they changed her to skinny girl.

But other than that, I don't mind the changes. For example, if Roger became nicer towards Doug, when he became rich, that's a good thing, right? And furthermore, it wasn't even really Disney's fault, that these changes were made. It seems like Jim Jenkis, the creator of the show, wanted to make these changes, and Nickelodeon wouldn't let him, so he went to Disney instead.

Almost every remaining character on MASH changed dramatically by the shows end.
Hawkeye went from sarcastic sexist rebel to a whining feminist loser.
Hot Lips? From all military bitchy sexpot to a sensitive softie who by the last season was into crochet.
Klinger from a crazy cross-dresser, who at one point in the first season tried to put a live grenade down Frank Burns' pants, to a bumbling all military buffoon.
Radar from naive innocent to whiney punk.
Only Father Malchahy seemed to stay the same.

On "Green Acres",several characters went through a personality change- 1)Oliver,for example,was at first really enthusiastic about farm living.Later on,he was still enthusiastic.but became(but not always)crabby. 2)Lisa-she was dead set against farm living at first,and pretty sensible,but later on became kind of dumb. 3)Mr.Kimball-At first,he was pretty smart,but as the series progressed,he became just plain stupid. On "F Troop",Sgt.0'Rourke ,at first,was not very likable,but as the series progresed.he became nicer,and really likable. And on "Sanford and Son",both Fred and Lamont underwent personality changes-In the beginning,Lamont was the grumpy(sometimes)one,and Fred the nice one.In the last seasons,however,Fred was the grumpy one and Lamont was nice.