Brian Damage
06-20-2011, 10:58 PM
Will there ever be another show with a Ward Type Dad or are those days completely over???
http://global.nationalreview.com/images/pic_homie_slideshow_dad_01.jpg
Marvo301
06-20-2011, 11:12 PM
I think TV runs in cycles and the days of the ideal TV Dad will be back some day. I just hope it's in my lifetime!!
MickeyMac
06-21-2011, 08:12 PM
My guess is no we wont see that kind of father quite like that again. Times had changed since then, and TV certainly has (and not for the better).
Retro4Life
06-21-2011, 09:05 PM
I'm also less optimistic that Marvo301. I think, unfortunately, that kind of father is long gone from our television screens, and what's worse, he's rapidly disappearing from our homes.
dlemond
06-21-2011, 09:54 PM
In a sitcom like Leave it To Beaver, Dad is basically a supporting character.
This show is centered on the kids, so it's easier to have an idealized dad,
Whenever Dad (or Mom) is the main character he is more flawed, not necessarily to the extent of today's sitcoms, but it's the main characters personalities from where the humor is derived.
If Beaver and Wally were secondary in this show there is no way Ward would have as perfectly even keeled all the time. Where would the stories have been derived?
Think of sitcoms with good, strong parents- The Brady Bunch and Family Ties for instance.They both would have had the parents in the forefront only to then have given to be almost entirely centered on the kids.
MickeyMac
06-22-2011, 07:21 PM
I'm also less optimistic that Marvo301. I think, unfortunately, that kind of father is long gone from our television screens, and what's worse, he's rapidly disappearing from our homes.
I have to agree with you.
Hughsgirl
06-22-2011, 10:40 PM
Not in this lifetime. The morals have died right along with Ward Cleaver. We won't see TV dads like him again simply because this generation of men don't have the time, desire or the smarts to be the "Ward Cleaver" type of dad so the writers wouldn't have the 1st clue of how to create one. It's sad and really we have seen the proof time and time again. This is why showing these classic shows are so important....at least IMO and the only way to hold onto Ward and all the other ideal fathers.
ponytail
06-23-2011, 06:28 AM
Not in this lifetime. The morals have died right along with Ward Cleaver. We won't see TV dads like him again simply because this generation of men don't have the time, desire or the smarts to be the "Ward Cleaver" type of dad so the writers wouldn't have the 1st clue of how to create one. It's sad and really we have seen the proof time and time again. This is why showing these classic shows are so important....at least IMO and the only way to hold onto Ward and all the other ideal fathers.
I totally agree!
Waterston_Fan
06-23-2011, 07:19 AM
I agree. The same goes for Howard Cunningham too.
Hoagie78
06-23-2011, 08:50 PM
Not in this lifetime. The morals have died right along with Ward Cleaver. We won't see TV dads like him again simply because this generation of men don't have the time, desire or the smarts to be the "Ward Cleaver" type of dad so the writers wouldn't have the 1st clue of how to create one. It's sad and really we have seen the proof time and time again. This is why showing these classic shows are so important....at least IMO and the only way to hold onto Ward and all the other ideal fathers.
I agree. Those days are dead and gone. Todays sitcom Dad's are written as morons, the mother is a complete "B" and the kids think they know everything and run their smart mouths. I wish it was 1961 instead 2011.
Hughsgirl
06-24-2011, 08:44 AM
I agree. Those days are dead and gone. Todays sitcom Dad's are written as morons, the mother is a complete "B" and the kids think they know everything and run their smart mouths. I wish it was 1961 instead 2011.
Welcome back Hoagie! I'm glad I have someone to post with.:D
Hoagie78
06-24-2011, 08:49 AM
Welcome back Hoagie! I'm glad I have someone to post with.:D
Thanks Hughs Girl.