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Janice 05-28-2011, 05:15 PM This one just about rips your heart out. Little Caylee was such a doll, but she's with the Angels now. I got in on this very late, so I'm confused about a lot.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/28/casey-anthony-car-decomposition_n_868352.html#s284908&title=Casey_Anthony_Trial
Casey Anthony Murder Trial: Witness Said Car Smelled Of Human Decomposition
Casey Anthony's prosecutors on Friday provided a refreshing relief to the monotony of testimony adduced in the last few days of her capital murder trial when they called a key prosecution witness to the stand.
Simon Birch, the former manager of Johnson’s Wrecker, the Orlando towing company that impounded Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire on June 30, 2008 –- roughly two weeks after her daughter died -– delivered the most explosive testimony to date when he described inspecting the vehicle.
"It was an odor consistent to what I have smelled in the past when it comes to decomposition," said Birch, who noticed the odor while examining Anthony's car four or five days after it was impounded in the secure lot.
The towing veteran testified he has been exposed to about half-a-dozen dozen vehicles during the course of his 30-year career that have had deceased bodies in them and that he was familiar with the odor of decomposition. Having previously worked in the sanitation industry for two years, Birch said he was also familiar with the smell of garbage.
Birch testified that decomposing human remains have a "very unique and distinctive smell" and that there was no mistaking the nature of the odor that was emanating from Anthony's car.
"The instant flash in my mind was, 'Whoa, I know what that smell is,'" Birch said.
Anthony, 25, is on trial for the first-degree murder of her daughter, two-year-old Caylee. The trial continued Saturday with testimony from Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, and her former boyfriend, Anthony Lazzaro. An emotional Cindy Anthony described the days leading up to the toddler's disappearance and asked prosecutors to remove a photo shown of Caylee. "I can't look at my granddaughter without getting upset," she said.
Caylee was last seen alive on June 16, 2008. Her disappearance was reported on July 15, 2008, the same day Casey Anthony's parents retrieved their daughter's car from Johnson’s Wrecker.
Prior to making her infamous 911 calls, in which she said she found her daughter's car and it "smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car," Cindy Anthony and her husband, George Anthony, went to Johnson's Wrecker and met with Birch to retrieve the car.
During his testimony on Friday, Birch said that when George Anthony opened the door to his daughter's vehicle, they were exposed to a "very potent" smell. When the two men opened the trunk of the vehicle, they discovered a bag of trash, which Birch testified he disposed of. The smell, however, was still present even after the trash was removed, he said.
The dramatic testimony of the tow lot manager set the stage once again for George Anthony. He was called to the witness stand for the third time in four days (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/27/casey-anthonys-alleged-abuse_n_867846.html?ref=fb&src=sp#s284908&title=Casey_Anthony_Trial) -– on this occasion to offer his own ornamental details about retrieving his daughter's vehicle. Anthony, a former police detective, acknowledged he had smelled a "pretty strong odor" when he picked up the car. He testified that he was afraid of what he might find in the trunk of the vehicle and thought, "Please God, don’t let this be my Casey or my Caylee [in the trunk]," he testified.
During cross examination, Casey Anthony's defense attorney, Jose Baez, asked George Anthony why he drove his daughter's vehicle home from the tow yard, rather than contacting police. The question was an apparent attempt to establish George Anthony’s alleged involvement in a cover-up. That relates to Tuesday's opening statements (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/24/casey-anthony-trial-drowning-defense_n_866417.html?ref=fb&src=sp#s284908&title=Casey_Anthony_Trial), in which Baez alleged that Caylee died on June 16, 2008, when she drowned in her family's swimming pool. He had also said that George Anthony was the one who found his granddaughter's body.
"The reason you drove that car home and didn't call police and went to work is because you knew Caylee was dead already," Baez suggested.
"No. I did not," a visibly shaken Anthony replied.
Up until Baez's recent revelation about the swimming pool, Casey Anthony had claimed her daughter was abducted by a babysitter. Multiple searches were conducted and, in December 2008, a former Orange County meter reader named Roy Kronk found Caylee's remains near her family home.
Throughout the day Friday, jurors watched nearly a dozen store surveillance videos of Anthony shopping in the weeks after Caylee died, and a number of other witnesses were called to the stand to corroborate testimony (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/25/casey-anthony-trial-fun-party-girl_n_867189.html?ref=fb&src=sp#s284908&title=Casey_Anthony_Trial) of previous witnesses. The only other witness of note was the fiancée of Anthony's older brother, Lee Anthony.
Mallory Parker testified to several mundane events, including a trip to downtown Orlando in July 2008, when she and Lee Anthony were attempting to locate his sister. However, during cross examination, when Baez asked Parker about the relationship between Casey Anthony and Caylee, the witness became emotional and broke down on the stand.
"It was awesome," Parker said. She said the two had a "very special" bond, which she described as "amazing."
Anthony is accused of multiple charges, including capital murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child and misleading law enforcement. The prosecution seeks the death penalty.
Family Ties Forever! 05-28-2011, 06:18 PM It's such a sad case. What I have always wondered is why Caylee's mother waited an entire month before reporting Caylee as missing. Also there's the whole babysitter claim which turned out that the babysitter Casey claimed was watching Caylee never existed.
Retro4Life 05-28-2011, 06:22 PM Yes, I've been following it. I haven't made up my mind about what I think really happened yet, but looking at those "party pictures" supposedly taken while the little girl was missing is deeply disturbing to me. Whatever happened, how could she still react and behave that way?
One thing I've noticed, and it is very poignant. The little girl looked VERY much like her grandma. At first I didn't like that woman but as the trial unfolds and evidence is presented, I wonder who is really lying and about what.
Heaven help me, it's the kind of thing that it's hard to look away from. But as you say, a terrible story where no one comes out well, particularly that beautiful little girl.
I am sick of the trail, it gone on long enough, just find the mother guilty and get it over with!
Rezny@gmail.com 05-30-2011, 05:43 PM If Casey Anthony were found NOT GUILTY?There would be a lot of REALLY MAD people-Nancy Grace(for sure-and I'm not knocking her here)and HLN's legal pundits (know it alls)Vinnie Politan,and Jane Velez-Mitchell.And a question:If she was found not guilty,do you think Casey Anthony would assist in finding the real kiiller?Any thoughts?Just curious.
robyrob 05-30-2011, 08:02 PM the "real killer"?
what is she gonna do, follow OJ Simpson around on the golf course?
In my opinion, Casey Anthony is guilty. The fact that she lied to and misled
Orange County(Florida) investigators is proof in itself of her guilt. Would an
innocent person lie to and mislead police investigators numerous times? I believe
Casey Anthony deserves the death penalty and I hope she receives it.
She's undoubtedly a compulsive liar - and I do think she killed her daughter, but should she be found not guilty... well, she'd hardly be the first to get away with it.
OJ Simpson, Robert Blake... heck, Lizzie Borden! They may get away with it, but they have already been tried in the court of public opinion - whether that's fair or unfair, it's the truth.
-STEFFY- 05-30-2011, 11:39 PM Casey Anthony deserves the death penalty and I hope she receives it.
She would suffer much more if she spent the rest of her life in prison.
She would suffer much more if she spent the rest of her life in prison.
I agree with that. I think she truly believes she hasn't done anything wrong - she just doesn't seem to "get" it. I think even if she were on death row she wouldn't get it - she's queen of denial. I think she needs decades behind bars to think about it.
Family Ties Forever! 06-01-2011, 10:01 PM This case reminds me of the Riley Ann Sayers' case. It's so sad. The details are disturbing.
link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Riley_Ann_Sawyers)
Murder of Riley Ann Sawyers
http://rileyannsawyers.webs.com/Riley.jpg
Riley Ann Sawyers
Born March 11, 2005
Mentor, Ohio
Died July 24, 2007 (aged 2)
Spring, Texas
Riley Ann Sawyers (March 11, 2005 - July 24, 2007) was a two-year-old girl from Mentor, Ohio, who was beaten to death by her mother and stepfather, and whose body was subsequently discovered in Galveston Bay. At this point police began a nationwide effort to identify her, and was known in the press as Baby Grace while her identity was unknown. Her identity was confirmed after her paternal grandmother, Sheryl Sawyers, notified police after seeing a composite sketch of the child. The remains were positively identified through DNA testing on November 30, 2007.
Background
Riley Ann Sawyers was born at Geauga Regional Hospital in Mentor, Ohio, to Robert Thomas Sawyers and Kimberly Dawn Trenor. Her mother was a sophomore at Mentor High School, and became pregnant at age fifteen. Robert Sawyers was a former student at Mentor High School, until he dropped out during his junior year. The family lived with Robert's mother Sheryl and her mother in Mentor, where Sheryl was Riley's primary caregiver. It was also during this time that Robert began having an affair with a woman named Catherine Priester. The two would later marry and have a son together.
In October 2006, alleging physical abuse and having filed domestic violence charges, Trenor left the area with her daughter and "disappeared". Trenor moved with her daughter to Spring, Texas, to marry Royce Clyde Zeigler, Jr. The two had met while playing on the online game World of Warcraft,[6] and they married on June 1, 2007, in Harris County, Texas. Zeigler believed Riley should be disciplined to say "Sir" and "Ma'am" to adults, and that corporal punishment was the best means of disciplining a child. Believing that Trenor was not properly administering the beatings herself, Zeigler took over.
DeathAccording to a videotaped confession and signed affidavit from Trenor, on July 24, 2007, she and Zeigler beat Riley with two leather belts and held her head underwater in the bathtub. She also said Zeigler picked her daughter up by her hair, threw her across the room, which caused her to slam her head into the tile floor. Finally Riley, hurt from the beating, was unable to stand when ordered to do so. “She didn’t have control of her legs,” Trenor said. When they realized Riley was dead, Trenor and Zeigler went to Wal-Mart to purchase a plastic Sterilite storage container, wrapped Riley in garbage bags, and stuffed her corpse inside the container. They kept the container in a storage shed for approximately two months before dumping it into Galveston Bay, where it was discovered by local fisherman Robert Wayne Spinn on October 29, 2007. A coroner discovered skull fractures and the investigation proceeded as a homicide.
Shortly before Thanksgiving in 2007, Zeigler attempted suicide via overdosing on blood pressure medication and prescribed anti-depressants. He left a suicide note stating: "My wife is innocent of the sins I committed". Trenor and Zeigler eventually took responsibility for Riley Ann's death, initially charged with injury to a child and tampering with evidence. Trenor said that the death was accidental—"a case of discipline that went too far." However, he later claimed during his trial that he was in another room of the house when Riley had died, so could not have been guilty.
On January 14, 2008, the cremated remains of Riley Ann Sawyers were turned over to her family in Ohio, after a Texas judge ruled that samples taken during the autopsy would be sufficient evidence for trial.
Murder convictionsTrenor was convicted of capital murder on February 2, 2009. It took the jury 90 minutes to reach a verdict. Trenor received a life sentence with the possibility of parole in 38 years.Zeigler also faced charges of capital murder as well as evidence tampering. On November 6, 2009, he was convicted of capital murder and received an automatic sentence of life imprisonment with the possibility of parole, as the state did not seek the death penalty.
Zeigler, Texas Department of Criminal Justice (TDCJ) #01605580, is currently incarcerated in the Powledge Unit. Previously he was incarcerated at the Allred Unit. Trenor, TDCJ# 01549893, is incarcerated in the Mountain View Unit. Her first parole eligibility date is November 24, 2047.
Retro4Life 06-01-2011, 11:02 PM I am sick of the trail, it gone on long enough, just find the mother guilty and get it over with!
I understand the impulse for "frontier justice" but that's not the way our system works. People are assumed innocent until proven guilty. That's one of the many things that makes our country great, and I wouldn't change it for the world.
comedyfreak 06-02-2011, 04:12 AM I haven't really followed the whole thing if there are two different stories who knows what really happened.
robyrob 06-02-2011, 07:27 AM I haven't really followed the whole thing if there are two different stories who knows what really happened.
thats the whole problem - she's told a dozen different stories, and every time she gets caught lying she comes up with a different story
catlover79 06-02-2011, 04:58 PM This case reminds me of the Riley Ann Sayers' case. It's so sad. The details are disturbing.
The Riley case hits home to me (literally!) because Mentor, OH, is the next town over from me. Naturally, it was a big story up here.
As for Casey Anthony, she really does strike me as delusional. What a mess. ohno:
Janice 06-02-2011, 06:30 PM This case reminds me of the Riley Ann Sayers' case. It's so sad. The details are disturbing.
That case is very sad. An innocent and precious life taken. String these SOBs up by their ankles and leave 'em for dead. How can anyone harm these children is beyond comprehension.
Family Ties Forever! 06-02-2011, 08:34 PM I know those poor children. :( Their lives were cut way too short.
Janice 06-02-2011, 09:22 PM I've been watching Nancy Grace every night on HLN. She's covering the trial. I've never seen so many still and video pictures of a little girl. Her grandparents were wild over that little girl. The grandmother can't stop sobbing on the stand. She bends her head so far forward that you can't see her face. I'd like to strangle Casey with my bare hands.
catlover79 06-02-2011, 09:25 PM I really can't add to what you all have said. It's just horrifying on every level.
Family Ties Forever! 06-02-2011, 09:39 PM I've been watching Nancy Grace every night on HLN. She's covering the trial. I've never seen so many still and video pictures of a little girl. Her grandparents were wild over that little girl. The grandmother can't stop sobbing on the stand. She bends her head so far forward that you can't see her face. I'd like to strangle Casey with my bare hands.
If I remember correctly from the news coverage it was the grandmother who first reported the little girl missing. I can't imagine the sorrow the grandparents are feeling at the loss of Caylee.
a.rusty.catheter 06-07-2011, 01:30 PM No, I'm sick of hearing about it.
Coffeecup 06-13-2011, 04:53 PM No I am not although somehow I hear snippets throu news shows.
When someone dies, if by a car accident, illness or by an hands of someone "not all there" I shake my head. The world is so sad.
Family Ties Forever! 06-30-2011, 04:51 PM link (http://www.click2houston.com/news/28403325/detail.html)
Defense Rests In Casey Anthony Trial
By Ashley Hayes CNN
Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2011
Updated: 3:15 pm CDT June 30, 2011
(CNN) -- Casey Anthony's defense rested Thursday in her capital murder trial without calling her to testify, ending weeks of speculation about whether she would take the stand in her own defense. Orange County Chief Judge Belvin Perry Jr. questioned Anthony to ensure the decision not to take the stand was hers. She answered, "Yes, sir," or "yes" to his questions.
Casey Anthony, 25, is charged with seven counts, including first-degree murder, aggravated child abuse and misleading police, in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty against her. She has pleaded not guilty. Anthony's defense team is trying to discredit the prosecution theory that the Orlando woman rendered Caylee unconscious with chloroform, duct-taped her mouth and nose, and stored the child's body in her car trunk for a few days before dumping it in the woods.
The defense says Caylee accidentally drowned in the family pool and that Anthony and her father panicked and covered it up. George Anthony has denied those claims. Caylee was last seen June 16, 2008, although she was not reported missing until 31 days later, on July 15. The little girl's skeletal remains were found in December of the same year near the Anthony home, with duct tape still attached to the mouth portion.
Prosecutors began calling rebuttal witnesses after a brief tussle took place over one of those witnesses, as well as records turned over to the defense Thursday. The first witness to testify was Orange County Sheriff's Office crime scene technician Alina Burroughs, who was on the stand very briefly. She said she took photos of the clothes and identified the photos.
Jurors were also allowed to read the suicide note George Anthony wrote to his family on January 22, 2009, when he attempted suicide. George Anthony and his wife and Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, were not in the Orlando courtroom as the suicide note was displayed on screens for jurors, but they re-entered afterward. Perry dismissed jurors for the day after the note was presented to the jury. He said rebuttal witnesses will likely conclude on Friday and closing arguments will be held Saturday morning, with jury instructions to follow and deliberations likely to begin on Saturday afternoon.
Perry refused to allow one witness to testify on the odor from Casey Anthony's trunk. Numerous witnesses have supported the prosecution's contention that it was the smell of human decomposition, but the defense has suggested a bag of trash left in the trunk for weeks was the source of the smell. Perry ruled the witness' testimony was not rebuttal. The records the two sides wrangled over are from the former employer of Cindy Anthony, Casey Anthony's mother. Prosecutors want to introduce them in an effort to prove Cindy Anthony was not home when searches for key words including chloroform were conducted on the Anthony family computer in March 2008.
Last week, Cindy Anthony testified that she searched for words including chloroform and alcohol. She said she was trying to figure out what was making one of her Yorkie dogs "extremely tired all the time." Both the dogs ate bamboo plants in the backyard, she said, so she started searching for chlorophyll to see if the plants could cause the dog's exhaustion. She said she searched for other chemicals, including alcohol, because of a recent scare regarding hand sanitizers around small children and her concern for Caylee. She said she searched on some injuries as well, because a friend of hers had recently suffered head and chest injuries in a car accident. She told defense attorney Jose Baez that she was "looking up specific terminology that someone had asked me to look up."
When cross-examining Cindy Anthony, prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick noted that time records from her job showed she was working the days -- March 17 and 21, 2008 -- and times the searches were conducted. Cindy Anthony said it was possible she could have been home at the time, as she went home early a couple of days that week. She told Burdick she couldn't say for sure if she was home those days unless she could access the computer at her former job. When Burdick asked why she never tried to get that information, Cindy Anthony said her work passwords would have long since expired, as she left in July 2008.
Burdick told Perry on Thursday that she and authorities obtained a subpoena for those records after Cindy Anthony's testimony. She told the judge the prosecution received the records from Cindy Anthony's work phone and computer for the dates in question on Wednesday and gave them to the defense as soon as she could. "This is way too late," Baez told Perry. "We're right at the close of our case." But Perry ruled prosecutors had not committed a discovery violation. "Everyone knew this was coming based on Mrs. Anthony's testimony," he said. "I don't think it was any big surprise" that the prosecution obtained the records.
However, the judge said he would allow the defense time to go through the records and interview the company's custodian of records. Baez told Perry just before court adjourned on Thursday that the defense wanted to subpoena Cindy Anthony's work records for July 15, 2008. Prosecutor Frank George told Perry the records custodian said he might not be able to get them until next week because of the upcoming holiday.
"If he gets them, he gets them, and if there's something earth-shattering, then -- it is what it is," Perry said. Perry also, outside the presence of the jury, found a 28-year-old man -- an apparent spectator -- guilty of contempt of court. The young man, who identified himself as Matthew Bartlett, was hauled in front of Perry for brandishing his middle finger at prosecutor Jeff Ashton in open court, in violation of a sign posted saying gestures would not be allowed.
"I'm truly sorry for doing this," said the chastened Bartlett. "This is something stupid. I'm not sure why I even did it. I just apologize." His apology, however, was not enough for Perry, who sentenced him to six days in jail and fined him $400 plus $223 in court costs, giving him six months to pay the fine. Bartlett was handcuffed and taken to jail by Orange County deputies. Earlier, George Anthony's alleged mistress took the stand, testifying he once told her the death of his 2-year-old granddaughter Caylee was "an accident that snowballed out of control." "I was in shock," Krystal Holloway told jurors. "By the time I looked up, his eyes were filled with tears. I didn't elaborate. I didn't ask anything further."
Holloway said she met the Anthonys at their tent -- the headquarters in the search for Caylee -- in July or August 2008. She said her relationship with George Anthony lasted for months, but she was also in a relationship at the time with someone else. George Anthony has denied having an affair with Holloway. He did testify that he visited her, but said that she had told him and his wife that she had a brain tumor and was dying, and since she had donated her time to help his family find Caylee, he felt comforting her was "the least I could do."
Baez introduced into evidence a text message sent by George Anthony to Holloway on December 16, 2008, which said, "Just thinking about you. I need you in my life." Holloway, who also uses the name River Cruz, testified that after the relationship ended, she had to instruct the guard at her apartment complex not to let George Anthony in anymore. She said she kept quiet about the relationship for years, and when police first approached her and confronted her with text messages, she denied the relationship at first but later set the record straight.
On cross-examination, she acknowledged to Ashton that she was paid $4,000 for an interview with the National Enquirer about the time she admitted the alleged affair to police. Holloway grew defensive after Ashton asked how the interview related to the change in her story, saying, "I had no choice but to tell the truth." She said she was being "trashed" in the media and agreed to speak to the Enquirer because she felt other media would selectively edit her story.
She also acknowledged that, in a statement to police, she said that George Anthony told her, "I really believe that it was an accident that just went wrong and (Casey Anthony) tried to cover it up." Holloway hotly maintained that George Anthony did not actually say that, but Ashton pointed it out in her statement. "He didn't tell you that he was present when this occurred, did he?" Ashton asked. "No," Holloway said. "He never told you that he knew it himself, that he knew it to be the case?" the prosecutor questioned her. "I just told you what he said," she replied. Ashton asked her to read her statement, and asked her if it wasn't true that George Anthony made it clear he had no firsthand knowledge of what happened to Caylee. She admitted that was true.
Ashton also pointed out that in a letter to Holloway from George Anthony, he writes that he has been trying to send messages to her through her daughter, the security guard and her husband. Holloway said she was not married and did not believe George Anthony thought she was. George Anthony said in the letter how much Holloway's friendship meant to him and his wife, she admitted, and signed the letter with both of their names. She also acknowledged George Anthony sent the text message five days after Caylee's remains were found. After Holloway's testimony, Perry told jurors her testimony may be used to impeach George Anthony's credibility, but told them that her testimony is not proof of how Caylee died and is not evidence of Casey Anthony's guilt or innocence.
George Anthony, who offered some of the trial's most dramatic testimony on Wednesday, was recalled to the stand Thursday along with his wife and son to answer questions about the manner in which various family pets had been buried over the years. Some of them, they testified, were buried with blankets in a black plastic bag and secured with tape. Cindy Anthony noted that some of the pets were secured that way by the veterinarian after they died. She said she didn't think it was duct tape, but Lee Anthony recalled using duct tape to secure a plastic bag on one occasion.
"I take it that you did not euthanize your own pets with chloroform?" prosecutor Linda Drane Burdick asked Cindy Anthony. She also asked whether duct tape was put on the animals' faces and Cindy Anthony said no. "Have you ever taken a dead pet and thrown it in a swamp?" Ashton asked George Anthony, who said no. Private investigator Dominic Casey was also recalled to the stand to answer brief questions about where he searched in November 2008 for Caylee in the same area where her remains were found a month later.
On Wednesday, George Anthony bristled at Baez's questions and at one point broke down and sobbed on the stand as he was questioned about his granddaughter and his suicide attempt that followed the discovery of her remains. The day he attempted suicide by drinking and taking pills, "It just felt like the right time to go and be with Caylee," George Anthony told Ashton, his voice breaking. "... I just decided it was time for me to get away from all this, to spend time with Caylee." As her father testified, Casey Anthony scribbled notes and occasionally shook her head angrily or whispered to her attorneys. No expression was visible on her face as she watched her father cry on the witness stand.
Copyright CNN 2011
robyrob 07-03-2011, 10:42 AM closing statements are going on right now
I honestly think that the prosecution presented a clear case of premeditated murder, and the defence's position that it was an accident that she tried to cover up because she was molested is ridiculous.
Yooch 07-03-2011, 08:17 PM I can't bring myself to follow it because it is so sad, tragic and heartbreaking.
Brad Russ 07-03-2011, 09:05 PM To be honest with you, I never even heard of her before you mentioned it. lol I watch so little tv these days, that I'm just not up to date on alot of the things going on in the world today.
Schmoopie 07-04-2011, 02:34 AM I've been following it but definitely not by choice. It seems that everywhere I go it's on TV somewhere. Even in the breakroom at work! I'll be glad when it's over but I think that'll be a while!
Janice 07-05-2011, 02:27 PM The murdering bitch skated! Our time on earth is short. The real judge will determine her fate when it really counts.
Well, it's official: murder is now legal in the state of Florida (with apologies to Norm MacDonald).
MickeyMac 07-05-2011, 02:30 PM Justice was not served. I could say a hell of a lot more but I wont.
What goes around comes around, and this girl will be looking over her shoulder for the rest of her life.
Mr. Television 07-05-2011, 02:38 PM What a stupid state. Maybe they didn't know the difference between guilty and not guilty. :rolleyes:
"Casey Anthony will eventually end up in prison when she tries to steal back her memorabilia.” --Kevin Nealon
sunshinefizzy 07-05-2011, 02:55 PM Nancy Grace is crying, quitting and going home right now.
Brian Damage 07-05-2011, 03:06 PM The world is so sad.
I agree, especially when somebody is assumed guilty before being presumed innocent. We are so ass backwards.
robyrob 07-05-2011, 03:08 PM i am appalled by this result, seems like someone on the jury just wanted to get out of there fast so they could start writing their tell-all book.
one can only hope that Casey is on the receiving end of some rough justice in prison.
Family Ties Forever! 07-05-2011, 03:38 PM That's terrible. :( To think Casey gets to live so many years and Caylee never will. Casey should pay for what she did, but it looks like she won't.
Vahan 07-05-2011, 03:56 PM I knew from the very beginning that she would get away with it.
This comment on Huffington Post just about sums it up for me:
rebuild her life? you fool.
no one deserves to rebuild a life after destroying an innocent one.
she'll never get to rebuild her life. even if she didn't murder her daughter, she created a fictional nanny, lied to the police, failed to report her daughter missing for a MONTH (no good mother would ever do this), so regardless if she isn't a killer, she acted like one. and now everyone will treat her like one
I am not suprised, the justice system is messed up
Janice 07-05-2011, 04:03 PM Here's a mother, and was she ever a MOTHER, who partied when her daughter went missing. Entered a Best Body contest at a nightclub, got a tatoo that said, "Beautiful Life" in Italian. She lied to everyone, but after 31 days when her mother insisted that she tell her where Caylee was, made up some bs story that a babysitter kidnapped her.
When her parents visited her in prison and asked her questions about Caylee, she got pissed because she just wanted her boyfriend's phone number. She then told her parents, "What a WASTE of a visit." This was on video. Everyone, including her parents, said the trunk in her car, smelled like death. Her father was a cop, and he'd know what a decomposing body smells like. The duct tape found on the baby's mouth had a heart sticker on it, same kind of stickers the MOTHER used.
I watched this case every day. That bitch is guilty as sin. As guilty as OJ Simpson is for killing Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman. The presumption of innocence is for those those in the courtroom, mainly those on the jury. The rest of us get to use our God-given common sense.
robyrob 07-05-2011, 04:06 PM the simple FACT of the presence of the single hair in the trunk of her car with the after-death banding on it proved she had a dead body in her car, the dna proved the hair came from Caylee - what more evidence could anyone possibly need?
tiredmike59 07-05-2011, 04:45 PM That bitch sure has some COLD eyes.
Janice 07-05-2011, 04:49 PM What bothers me the most, aside from the fact that a little girl is dead, is that we can't even say that Casey has to live with herself. She's a sociopath, and they have no conscience. She may be out this week, with time served, and living it up by the weekend. I haven't felt this bad about a trial since OJ Simpson, and I doubt I'll ever get over that.
Family Ties Forever! 07-05-2011, 04:52 PM This is just so wrong. Here Casey sits smiling while her daughter is dead.
http://www.click2houston.com/2011/0705/28452035_320X180.jpg
Mr. Television 07-05-2011, 05:02 PM She's going to be an outcast like OJ was. From what I'm reading, most people think she's guilty. She better be very careful of where she goes and what she does.
Janice 07-05-2011, 05:06 PM This is just so wrong. Here Casey sits smiling while her daughter is dead.
http://www.click2houston.com/2011/0705/28452035_320X180.jpg
I hope you don't mind that I'm using it for an avatar. Not for long as the sight of her makes me sick.
Miss Lisa 07-05-2011, 05:13 PM I hope somebody strangles that b***h for me. How she was found not guilty? I don't know. But anyone who would murder or even hurt an innocent little child is pretty messed up.
Retro4Life 07-05-2011, 05:14 PM Gotta say, I was stunned. I didn't expect her to get death, or maybe even first degree, but I figured she'd be guilty of at the very least manslaughter.
You know, about that videotape...I can't say that she acted GUILTY, but what she did act was like someone who was not concerned about her child. Yeah, she was in prison, but even there you'd think a mother's instinct would kick in. Of course now we know that she knew the girl was dead, but even so...the partying, the smiles, etc...I just can't see how someone whose daughter is dead (whether it be accident or intentional) could ever act that way. It just boggles the mind.
Family Ties Forever! 07-05-2011, 05:53 PM I hope you don't mind that I'm using it for an avatar. Not for long as the sight of her makes me sick.
Not a problem. I know what you mean. Looking at Casey, especially smiling is creepy. Just like OJ, Casey knows she got away with murder, ugh.
Riley Martin 07-05-2011, 06:14 PM Nothing to fear... Casey will get her just desserts eventually.:cool:
But yeah, that being said, the justice system in this country is one big joke.
Brad Russ 07-05-2011, 06:26 PM The only solace I can take from any of this, is knowing that that little girl is in a better place. God Bless her! :(
OJ Simpson not guilty, Casey Anthony not guilty, and Andrea Yates may be free at the end of the year=EPIC FAIL! The justice system sucks!
Family Ties Forever! 07-05-2011, 07:24 PM ohno:
link (http://www.clickorlando.com/news/28453358/detail.html)
Casey Anthony Team Parties At Bar After Not Guilty Verdict
Anthony To Be Sentenced On Misdemeanor Charges Thursday
Posted: Tuesday, July 5, 2011
Updated: 4:51 pm EDT July 5, 2011
Video
Orlando, Fla. -- Casey Anthony's defense team was spotted partying at the bar of a restaurant across the street from the Orange County Courthouse minutes after their client was found not guilty. Exclusive Local 6 video shows Dorothy Clay Sims, Jose Baez, Cheney Mason and other members of the team celebrating at Terrace 390 on Orange Avenue in downtown Orlando.
Sims could be seen dancing and jumping up and down next to the bar. A restaurant employee hugged her as she celebrated. The team has been eating lunch at the restaurant nearly every day of the 36-day-long trial. A smiling Sims began apparently recording her own video of the photographer on her phone from inside the restaurant. In the background, members of the team could be seen exchanging high fives.
After a nearly two-month-long trial, Anthony was found not guilty of aggravated manslaughter and child neglect. She was found guilty of four counts of giving false information to a law enforcement officer. She was accused of murdering her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
Copyright 2011 by Internet Broadcasting Systems and ClickOrlando.com. All rights reserved.
Waterston_Fan 07-05-2011, 07:58 PM I don't know about how much evidence there really was but from what I read there wasn't enough evidence linking her to the killing and burial.
But looks like Casey's mom might be in big trouble now since she committed perjury.
-STEFFY- 07-05-2011, 11:39 PM The murdering bitch skated! Our time on earth is short. The real judge will determine her fate when it really counts.
Hearing that "not guilty" verdict made me physically sick.
catlover79 07-06-2011, 02:09 AM I was not surprised at all when I heard the verdict - because it came down to the lack of physical evidence. That said, I do believe she is guilty. At least Caylee is where no one can ever hurt her again. As for her mother, she's going to be spending the rest of her life looking over her shoulder!!
-STEFFY- 07-06-2011, 02:12 AM As for her mother, she's going to be spending the rest of her life looking over her shoulder!!
^ I doubt she will seeing as how she is a sociopath who doesn't care about anyone or anything.
JamesG 07-06-2011, 01:01 PM TMZ: Hirsch Reaches Out to Casey Anthony
Posted Jul 06th, 2011
TMZ is reporting that Vivid co-founder Steve Hirsch called Casey Anthony’s victorious attorney, Jose Baez, hours after the Tuesday jury verdict that cleared his client of the most serious criminal charges facing her, “to discuss the possibility of a business relationship.”
Though no specific terms were reported, Hirsch is quoted as saying:
“Whether you agree with the verdict or not, Casey will want to move forward with her life and has a right to make a living. It’s not going to be easy for her and we believe we can help her make the transition into a new life.
We’ve all seen the pictures of her partying and having a good time with friends where she definitely looks hot.”
Hirsch continued, adding, “I’m sure Baez and Casey are celebrating today, but I’m hoping to connect with him very soon.”
Headline News (the Nancy Grace channel) reported on the Vivid offer Wednesday morning in its Sentencing Watch coverage of the Casey Anthony trial, in which 25-year-old Casey was found not guilty of the 2008 premeditated murder of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.
http://business.avn.com/articles/video/TMZ-Hirsch-Reaches-Out-to-Casey-Anthony-440444.html
catlover79 07-06-2011, 02:26 PM One of my friends posted this on his FB page:
JamesG 07-06-2011, 03:03 PM Casey Anthony Prosecutor Jeff Ashton Offers a Voice of Reason on "The View" (VIDEO)
by Nick Zaino
posted Jul 6th 2011
Retiring prosecutor Jeff Ashton, one of the principle figures in the Casey Anthony trial, visited "The View" Wednesday and reflected on yesterday's not-guilty verdict that shocked the nation.
Ashton revealed he was troubled by the frenzy surrounding the trial, which he likened to the atmosphere of a sporting event, and said that while the acquittal was disappointing, it has not shaken his faith in the justice system.
Why are people so furious about this?
This case goes against one of the most basic things that we all rely on which is a mother's love for a child. I think that when people see someone that they believe has so... gone away from that it just outrages them.
But I think that a lot of people got caught up in the frenzy of "being there" for this trial and it actually got weird at times, almost like a sporting event and that people were "on a team".
There were times when I just wanted to look at them and just say 'Everyone just calm down. This is not a sporting event. It's more than that', but I mean people were great and they were supportive.
Do you have faith in the justice system after the jury looked at all the evidence and said "Not Guilty"?
I do. You cannot believe in the rule of law and not accept that sometimes it doesn't go the way you think it should.
http://www.aoltv.com/2011/07/06/the-view-jeff-ashton-casey-anthony-prosecutor/
Unfortanely, it was the right verdict due to lack of evidence, it sucks but we all have to move on, complaining is not going to change anything
Janice 07-06-2011, 04:00 PM I just hope than Casey and her family get busy trying to find who killed Caylee.
I just hope than Casey and her family get busy trying to find who killed Caylee.
I doubt that will happen because I am sure Casey is the killer, did you see her parents' reaction to the verdict? They just walked off, no smiles, no congrationing her daughter, they know Casey killed Caylee, did OJ Simpson and his family get busy trying to find who killed his wife and Ron Goldman? Nope!
Mr. Television 07-06-2011, 04:15 PM I doubt that will happen because I am sure Casey is the killer, did you see her parents' reaction to the verdict? They just walked off, no smiles, no congrationing her daughter, they know Casey killed Caylee, did OJ Simpson and his family get busy trying to find who killed his wife and Ron Goldman? Nope!
OJ's doing his looking from inside a jail cell. It was all a plan of his to go undercover and get arrested in order to find Nicole's killer. :ohno:
Watching her party last night was enough to make me almost lose my dinner.
OJ's doing his looking from inside a jail cell. It was all a plan of his to go undercover and get arrested in order to find Nicole's killer. :ohno:
Watching her party last night was enough to make me almost lose my dinner.
I meant after OJ was found not guilty, OJ and his family didn't get busy trying to find who killed his wife and Ron before he went to jail for roberry because everybody knows OJ killed Nicole and Ron
Janice 07-06-2011, 04:18 PM I doubt that will happen because I am sure Casey is the killer, did you see her parents' reaction to the verdict? They just walked off, no smiles, no congrationing her daughter, they know Casey killed Caylee, did OJ Simpson and his family get busy trying to find who killed his wife and Ron Goldman? Nope!
I was being facetious.
I was being facetious.
Ahh, you should have put a emotion sign to show you are facetious
Janice 07-06-2011, 04:22 PM Ahh, you should have put a emotion sign to show you are facetious
Anyone who's read this thread knows where I stand. It's also been in my avatar for a month.
robyrob 07-06-2011, 04:26 PM I just hope than Casey and her family get busy trying to find who killed Caylee.
i'm sure Casey will be busy searching every nightclub in Miami...
Anyone who's read this thread knows where I stand. It's also been in my avatar for a month.
Ohhh, sorry about that
Janice 07-06-2011, 04:27 PM Ohhh, sorry about that
No problem. :)
Janice 07-06-2011, 06:55 PM i'm sure Casey will be busy searching every nightclub in Miami...
I'm FREEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
party: :jig: :cheer:
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-STEFFY- 07-06-2011, 07:29 PM I just hope than Casey and her family get busy trying to find who killed Caylee.
^ Don't you know? Caylee's killer is the same person who killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.
According to the Casey Anthony jury, it is perfectly acceptable to bag up your dead child into some hefty garbage bags and throw her into the swamp. This makes me sick. I hate that jury and I wish them nothing but misfortune for the rest of their lives.
Mr. Television 07-06-2011, 07:37 PM ^ Don't you know? Caylee's killer is the same person who killed Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman.
According to the Casey Anthony jury, it is perfectly acceptable to bag up your dead child into some hefty garbage bags and throw her into the swamp. This makes me sick. I hate that jury and I wish them nothing but misfortune for the rest of their lives.
They've been playing comments from one of the alternate jurors on the news. He thinks she's innocent. He believes the accident story that the defense was telling. When the reporter tried to question him about why he believed that, he sounded like an idiot. With people like him in the jury pool, no wonder she got off. :mad:
-STEFFY- 07-06-2011, 07:39 PM I hope all those jurors go to hell.
Janice 07-06-2011, 07:55 PM I hope all those jurors go to hell.
Same here. I love that picture of Caylee in your avatar. Such innocence. Makes me feel like crying.
-STEFFY- 07-06-2011, 08:12 PM Same here. I love that picture of Caylee in your avatar. Such innocence. Makes me feel like crying.
The whole case and especially the verdict has brought me to tears. There is no justice for that innocent little girl, and her wicked mother can now go on to have another baby and probably harm or kill that one, too.
I honestly wish nothing but harm and misfortune for Casey and that dumb ass jury who accquitted her. May they all suffer.
Mr. Television 07-06-2011, 08:34 PM http://www.tmz.com/2011/07/06/casey-anthony-juror-paid-interviews-lawyer-trial-murder-child-caylee-anthony-network-money-jury/?adid=morecomments
Casey Anthony Juror: Ask Me Anything ... For a Price
7/6/2011 10:06 AM PDT by TMZ Staff
One of the jurors in the Casey Anthony trial has decided to go public with his side of the story -- but TMZ has learned, he's not talkin' ... unless the price is right ... and 5-figure offers are already pouring in.
A publicist for the unidentified juror is sending a letter to media outlets, claiming, "Our client -- a married, college-educated, 33-year-old white male with two young children -- is willing to consider granting one or more media interviews so long as the opportunities are paid."
We're told the juror has already received multiple offers from big news operations, including at least one major network. Sources tell us ... the high offers are in the "mid 5-figures."
Paid interviews are a hazy moral territory for obvious reasons -- and the publicist, Rick French, admits, paying for sit-downs is "always a sticky subject and believe me, I understand the delicacy of this type of negotiation."
But French insists ... sticky or not, his client ain't budging -- "He will not entertain any offers that don't include compensation for a myriad of reasons."
Janice 07-06-2011, 08:37 PM There's one piece of video that I just love. Nancy Grace played it all the time. The Anthonys were having a cook-out. Caylee was wearing a cute one-piece bathing suit, plastic shoes with her hair in ponytails. Caylee walks down toward the grill. Her grandfather turns her around. She walks a few steps, then turns around facing the grill again.
This time, her grandmother Cindy appears and takes her and walks with her, leading her away. Little Caylee didn't know who was holding her hand and walking with her, so she looks up to see who it is. Realizing it was her grandmother, she just happily with her. I've seen it probably 20 times, and it breaks me up every time. I fell in love with that little girl through pictures and video.
James"Thunder"Early 07-07-2011, 12:06 AM The prosecution should have put her on the witness stand. I'm no lawyer, but seeing as she's a repeated liar, the state actually calling her up there was their chance blow her out of the water. Perception is everything. But, judging from how fast the jury came back, I'd say they made up their minds awhile ago, so it probably wouldn't have made a difference.
The facts just do not support a not guilty verdict, period.
Retro4Life 07-07-2011, 12:31 AM ^ Well, she doesn't have to testify if she doesn't want to. As I understand it, the prosecution really couldn't have called her. If they could have, I'm sure they would have.
comedyfreak 07-07-2011, 05:51 AM We will never know who killed Caylee, only her mother knows if she did it or not. No regular parent would party while their child is missing, the trial shows what a bad mother she was and did not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
Mr. Television 07-07-2011, 06:36 AM ^ Well, she doesn't have to testify if she doesn't want to. As I understand it, the prosecution really couldn't have called her. If they could have, I'm sure they would have.
Nope. The defendant doesn't have to testify if they don't want to. Usually when they dont, it says alot though. This jury had there mind made up as soon as the trial started though. I don't think it would have made a difference.
Family Ties Forever! 07-07-2011, 08:25 AM It was mentioned last night on Entertainment Tonight that Casey wants to get pregnant again. :eek:
robyrob 07-07-2011, 09:19 AM We will never know who killed Caylee, only her mother knows if she did it or not. No regular parent would party while their child is missing, the trial shows what a bad mother she was and did not have proof beyond a reasonable doubt.
i think that it is plainly obvious that she killed Caylee - we just don't know exactly HOW she did it. (which is really completely irrelevant anyways)
what it came down to is that it was her word against her father's that Caylee drowned in the swimming pool and they tried to cover it up - the problem is that for her to testify that her father is lying she would have to TESTIFY
JamesG 07-07-2011, 10:30 AM Vivid Withdraws Casey Anthony Porn Offer
Posted Jul 06th, 2011
Public sentiment is a powerful thing, as Vivid honcho Steve Hirsch found out today.
After making waves with an offer for Casey Anthony to star in a porn movie while the ink was barely dry on her verdict, Hirsch withdrew his offer today, perhaps aware that doing business with an accused child murderer would harm his brand.
Anthony yesterday was acquitted of murdering her two-year-old daughter Caylee in 2008, but convicted of four misdemeanor counts.
"It has become obvious to us that Vivid fans, and people in general, want nothing to do with her and that includes a XXX movie,” Hirsch told TMZ.com today.
Hirsch explains:
"We were ready to make an offer to Casey to star in one of our feature films. It's clear to me now, however, that there has been an overwhelmingly negative response to our offer and so we've decided to withdraw it."
Hirsch has been aggressive in courting tabloid sensations with offers to star in a Vivid movie. Past apples of his eye have included Nadya “Octomom” Suleman, Pippa Middleton and Russian spy Anna Chapman.
With most Americans believing Anthony to be guilty of the horrible crime only to be found not guilty because the state made a poor case, the backlash to Hirsch’s offer was swift.
"We now believe that we underestimated the emotional response that people are having to the verdict,” Hirsch said. “A movie starring Casey Anthony is not what people want to see."
http://business.avn.com/articles/video/Vivid-Withdraws-Casey-Anthony-Porn-Offer-440468.html
JamesG 07-07-2011, 11:04 AM Casey Anthony Juror No. 3: 'Not Guilty Doesn't Mean Innocent' (VIDEO)
by Jason Hughes
posted Jul 7th 2011
With the prosecution failing to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt, the jury in the Casey Anthony presented the most controversial "Not guilty" verdict since O.J. Simpson's trial.
On "Primetime Nightline: Casey Anthony: Not Guilty" (Wed., 10PM ET on ABC), they had one of the jurors, Jennifer Ford, in the trial on to talk about the verdict, and her feelings about the case.
Why did you and the other jurors acquit Casey Anthony of murdering her daughter?
Um... there wasn't enough evidence.
If you're going to charge someone with murder don't you have to know how they killed someone, or why they would have killed someone, or have something on when, where, why, how?
Those were important questions that were not answered.
Casey lies...
Yes, she does.
and then she lies again. And then she goes out and lives the high-life while her daughter... is dead. People say that this was evidence that this person was capable of killing that child.
Even if that's evidence that she is capable it doesn't show that she did do it.
When you're in court as a juror you have certain responsibilities.
Correct.
and you're here now. Do you think Casey Anthony might have killed her daughter?
I feel that she had something to do with it and I don't know what. I don't think it's fair to speculate.
Quite a few people, when we got back after the verdict was read, were all in tears.
Why were you crying after handing down a "Not Guilty" verdict?
Not guilty doesn't mean not innocent.
http://www.aoltv.com/2011/07/07/casey-anthony-juror-not-guilty-doesnt-mean-innocent-video/
JamesG 07-07-2011, 12:44 PM Casey Anthony Sentenced To More Jail Time
7/7/11
Chief Judge Belvin Perry sentenced Casey Anthony, 25, to four years for lying to police during the investigation into Caylee's 2008 death, but shortened her term, because sher ved 1,043 being arrested and charged with first-degree murder.
Perry also slapped her with $4,000 in fines.
"As a result of those four distinct lies, law enforcement expended a great deal of time, energy, and manpower looking for young Caylee Marie Anthony," he said.
Perry sentenced Anthony to serve one year of jail time for each of the four counts of lying to police. Since the death of her daughter in 2008, Anthony has spent almost three years behind bars.
Corrections officials are determining how much of that time to count toward her sentence.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/casey-anthony-sentenced_n_892080.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%7C76165#s304463&title=Casey_Anthony_Sentencing
Janice 07-07-2011, 02:20 PM Who cares about how she died is right. People have been convicted on a LOT less. I've been hearing many lawyers on tv say that most murder convictions are reached with circumstantial evidence. How can they determine a cause of death when the body (skeleton) was in a Florida swamp for six months, picked over by animals? People are convicted when there's no body found. I watch those shows all the time about murders. The First 48, Forensic Files, On The Case with Paula Zahn, those types. We'll watch four in a row after we go to bed. I just love ON DEMAND.
There was the chloroform in Casey's trunk. There's the 84 searches for chloroform done on the home computer. Casey's mother lied and said she did it, but her work record puts her squarely at work. There's the duct tape found on Caylee. Why in the world would there ever be a need to put duct tape over a child's face, dead or alive? Why would someone put a heart sticker over the tape? One of Casey's stickers to boot. Three good size pieces of tape. One for her mouth, one for her nose and one for good measure. I could kill that bitch with my bare hands.
Casey was the last one to see her daughter alive. She lied to her mother and said that a babysitter stole her. Why do that, when it wasn't true? This was after 31 days of Caylee not being seen by anyone. There's Casey partying up a storm, entering a Best Body contest, hanging at one of her boyfriend's place having sex; having a tattoo put on, "Beautiful Life". Why wasn't she screaming bloody murder (pun intended), when she was in prison, screaming that her daughter's killer's MUST be found. They have to pay for what they did to my baby!!
How about the people who testified that Casey's trunk smelled like death? The grandmother even said it when she made that 911 call to report Caylee missing. I guess the morons on the jury were expecting the murder on film, kind of like a killing caught on the surveillance camera at a 7 Eleven. It just doesn't always work that way. Sometimes the jurors have to connect the dots that are laid out in front of them. They have to do some of the thinking too. The Prosecutors can spoonfeed the jury only so much. This isn't CSI-Miami. It's called using your brains, morons.
(http://www.7-eleven.com/)
Mr. Television 07-07-2011, 02:53 PM Who cares about how she died is right. People have been convicted on a LOT less. I've been hearing many lawyers on tv say that most murder convictions are reached with circumstantial evidence. How can they determine a cause of death when the body (skeleton) was in a Florida swamp for six months, picked over by animals? People are convicted when there's no body found. I watch those shows all the time about murders. The First 48, Forensic Files, On The Case with Paula Zahn, those types. We'll watch four in a row after we go to bed. I just love ON DEMAND.
There was the chloroform in Casey's trunk. There's the 84 searches for chloroform done on the home computer. Casey's mother lied and said she did it, but her work record puts her squarely at work. There's the duct tape found on Caylee. Why in the world would there ever be a need to put duct tape over a child's face, dead or alive? Why would someone put a heart sticker over the tape? One of Casey's stickers to boot. Three good size pieces of tape. One for her mouth, one for her nose and one for good measure. I could kill that bitch with my bare hands.
Casey was the last one to see her daughter alive. She lied to her mother and said that a babysitter stole her. Why do that, when it wasn't true? This was after 31 days of Caylee not being seen by anyone. There's Casey partying up a storm, entering a Best Body contest, hanging at one of her boyfriend's place having sex. Why wasn't she screaming bloody murder (pun intended), when she was in prison, screaming that her daughter's killer's MUST be found. They have to pay for what they did to my baby!!
How about the people who testified that Casey's trunk smelled like death? The grandmother even said it when she made that 911 call to report Caylee missing. I guess the morons on the jury were expecting the murder on film, kind of like a killing caught on the surveillance camera at a 7 Eleven. It just doesn't always work that way. Sometimes the jurors have to connect the dots that are laid out in front of them. They have to do some of the thinking too. The Prosecutors can spoonfeed the jury only so much. This isn't CSI-Miami. It's called using your brains, morons.
(http://www.7-eleven.com/)
:clap
Very well said. We live in the Reality Show generation and everybody wants to actually see the crime take place. That doesn't happen in real life. :rolleyes:
Family Ties Forever! 07-07-2011, 08:11 PM link (http://www.click2houston.com/news/28469938/detail.html)
Casey Anthony To Be Released From Jail Next Week
By the CNN Wire Staff
Posted: Thursday, July 7, 2011
Updated: 5:03 pm CDT July 7, 2011
Orlando (CNN) -- Casey Anthony only has to stay in jail six more days to fulfill the sentence a judge gave her Thursday on convictions for lying to authorities. Judge Belvin Perry sentenced Anthony to four years in jail -- one year for each of her four convictions of lying to police -- but with credit for the approximately three years already served and good behavior, her release date was set for next Wednesday, July 13, a court spokeswoman said Thursday.
Denying a defense motion to reduce the four counts to a single conviction, Perry gave Anthony the maximum jail time he could by ruling that the four years be served consecutively. He also fined her $1,000 for each count. Court papers show she is also ordered to pay court costs and fees totalling just over $600. "I don't know how free she's going to be (but) she's going to be out a cage," defense attorney Cheney Mason told InSession soon after sentencing. "I doubt there's any place in this country that she could walk the streets freely."
Mason said that he fears for Anthony's safety, and that measures are being taken to protect her. She will undoubtedly get counseling going forward, he said, adding that offers to help have poured in from across the country. "I think she wants to get away from all this and try to find some way to start a life," said Mason. A jury acquitted Anthony Tuesday on the most serious charges against her, including murder, in the 2008 death of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee, but convicted her on the four misdemeanor counts of lying to police.
When Anthony arrived in the courtroom Thursday, she smiled often as she chatted with her attorneys. CNN legal expert Jeffrey Toobin said Perry's decision came as a surprise. "Most people convicted of misdemeanors do not get prison time," he said. The four lies at issue include Anthony lying about whether her daughter was missing; about 2-year-old Caylee being in the custody of a nanny; about having a job at Universal Studios and about having received a phone call from Caylee.
The defense argued Thursday that the multiple charges violate the so-called double jeopardy protections in the Constitution because they all came on the same day, and should be reduced to one conviction. The prosecution argued that Anthony lied at different times on the same date, and that there is no double jeopardy violation. Perry agreed with the state, and noted that each of Anthony's lies triggered actions by investigators. The jury spoke "loud and clear" in its decision, he said.
In the courtroom Thursday, Cindy Anthony, Casey's mother, watched her daughter walk in and commented to her husband, "Oh my gosh, there she is, she looks so beautiful." Cindy Anthony noted to her husband George that their daughter had let down her hair, after having kept it pulled back throughout the trial. Two HLN producers seated in the courtroom in front of the Anthony parents heard the remarks.
Cindy Anthony also commented that Lee Anthony, Casey's brother, had been strong throughout the experience. A woman who was in the courtroom later said Cindy Anthony seemed happy and was smiling and looking at Casey, but noted that Casey did not look back at her parents. Cindy Anthony could face perjury charges for testimony she gave, one of the prosecutors in the murder trial said Wednesday. Cindy Anthony testified that she was responsible for searches about chloroform on the family's home computer, but evidence indicated she was at work at the time.
Prosecutors alleged Casey Anthony used chloroform to render her daughter unconscious and then duct-taped her mouth and nose to suffocate her. They said that she put the child's body in the trunk of her car for a few days before disposing of it. Caylee's skeletal remains were discovered December 11, 2008, by former Orange County meter reader Roy Kronk. Defense attorneys maintained the child drowned in the Anthony's above-ground pool on June 16, 2008, and that Casey Anthony and her father panicked upon finding her there and covered up the death. George Anthony denied those allegations in his testimony.
Outside the courtroom Thursday, a crowd of protesters holding signs lambasted the jury's decision and the fact that Casey Anthony will be freed.
But some people were there to support Anthony -- including one man wearing a sign asking her to marry him. Florida officials, meanwhile, are asking that Anthony repay the state for the enormous cost of investigating the case. In a motion filed Wednesday, the state called for a hearing so it can tally up costs and slap Anthony with the bill.
"The efforts and costs of the investigation were extensive and not immediately available and accordingly, the State of Florida respectfully requests this Court to set a hearing within 60 days to determine total costs," the motion says. The motion cites a Florida law that allows the state to fine defendants in criminal cases to recoup money spent. Texas Equusearch, a firm that helped search for Anthony's daughter, also wants its money back.
The company said it used 4,200 searchers and spent $112,000 looking for Caylee in Florida after the girl was reported missing in July 2008, CNN affiliate KTRK reported. Tim Miller, the head of company, told the affiliate he now believes Caylee was never missing -- and he is contemplating a lawsuit. "This is the money that really needed to go to families that need us," Miller told the television station.
Additionally, Anthony will also have to deal with a defamation lawsuit from the real Zenaida Gonzalez. At the time of Caylee's disappearance, Anthony told family members and police that the little girl was with a nanny named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez. That is one of Anthony's lying convictions. Later, Anthony claimed Gonzalez had kidnapped the toddler. Authorities never found a nanny by that name who cared for Caylee. They did, however, find a woman named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez, who denied ever meeting Anthony. Gonzalez then filed the defamation lawsuit.
CNN's Vivian Kuo, Martin Savidge, Lateef Mungin and InSession's Jean Casarez contributed to this report.
Copyright CNN 2011
When Casey walks to freedom next Wednesday, I hope you all will be able to move on and come to terms with it, even if Casey holds a press conference next Wednesday and admits to killing Caylee, there is nothing they can do about it
Janice 07-07-2011, 09:04 PM ^ I think I speak for everyone following this case when I say that we don't have to move on because we're not stuck on it now. We're simply pissed, that's all.
catlover79 07-07-2011, 09:52 PM It was mentioned last night on Entertainment Tonight that Casey wants to get pregnant again. :eek:
Dear lord, someone get this woman's tubes tied, STAT!!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
-STEFFY- 07-07-2011, 11:26 PM ^ I think I speak for everyone following this case when I say that we don't have to move on because we're not stuck on it now. We're simply pissed, that's all.
You are absolutely right, Janice. I have felt sick ever since I heard that pitiful "not guilty" verdict and I have not been able to smile since. This whole travesty has disgusted me and made me severely jaded. I am beyond pissed...it's more like anger, sadness and sickness all mixed together.
The judicial system is such a joke. People aren't even afraid of it anymore. And why should they be? Look how easy it was for Casey Anthony to GET AWAY WITH MURDER.
I truly HATE those jurors. I also HATE Jose Baez and that entire defense team. Most of all I hate the monster that killed her beautiful, precious, irreplaceable, innocent baby. I hope Casey Anthony suffers in some way down the line. I honestly wish for her to be a true "victim" of a horrendous crime.
robyrob 07-08-2011, 07:34 AM i don't think anyone should ever "move on" or forget about Caylee and just let Casey or the jurors off the hook.
even if they completely disbelieved ALL of the evidence and all of the other possible situations in this case, she had a child in HER care, she lost that child and then proceeded to do everything in her power to HIDE the fact that the child was missing or in danger, never lifted a finger to find the child and intentionally mislead the police and everyone else in the search for that child, and then that child turns up dead - this should automatically be negligent homicide and by definition of the law manslaughter.
last week in Dayton a woman got drunk and passed out in the street and left her two young kids wandering in traffic - they lived but she'll probably do more time than Casey - they didn't find any DNA on her either.
old grouch 07-08-2011, 09:21 AM When Casey walks to freedom next Wednesday, I hope you all will be able to move on and come to terms with it, even if Casey holds a press conference next Wednesday and admits to killing Caylee, there is nothing they can do about it
Maybe as she walks to freedom, she'll get hit by a truck.
-STEFFY- 07-08-2011, 06:53 PM Maybe as she walks to freedom, she'll get hit by a truck.
Or maybe someone will be somewhere on a roof top waiting for her with a military rifle.
Maybe as she walks to freedom, she'll get hit by a truck.
That is uncalled for...
Or maybe someone will be somewhere on a roof top waiting for her with a military rifle.
Alright, stop it :mad:
Janice 07-08-2011, 07:00 PM Dork, you're not a moderator, so please stop telling members how to post. Report any posts you find inappropriate.
With that said, gotta lower the heat on the rhetoric, folks. We don't run that kind of site here.
Dork, you're not a moderator, so please stop telling members how to post. Report any posts you find inappropriate.
With that said, gotta lower the heat on the rhetoric, folks. We don't run that kind of site here.
My apology
In my opinion, this thread should be closed, not worth discussing anymore since Casey is going to be free no matter what our opinions are and I doubt this thread will be active after Casey walks until something happens to Casey
Janice 07-08-2011, 07:39 PM In my opinion, this thread should be closed, not worth discussing anymore since Casey is going to be free no matter what our opinions are and I doubt this thread will be active after Casey walks until something happens to Casey
There's no problems on this thread, and threads don't get closed when they become inactive. It's still a very hot topic.
There's no problems on this thread, and threads don't get closed when they become inactive. It's still a very hot topic.
Ohhh, alright
Mr. Television 07-08-2011, 08:36 PM It's too bad that Casey didn't live in Texas. She would have got real justice there.
And yes, I'm still venting. Sorry if it offends anyone.
-STEFFY- 07-08-2011, 09:19 PM It's too bad that Casey didn't live in Texas. She would have got real justice there.
And yes, I'm still venting. Sorry if it offends anyone.
It does not offend me at all. I am outraged, too. And beyond disgusted.
I heard that some establishments in Clearwater, Florida are posting signs in their window that they refuse to welcome or serve anyone who was on that supposed jury. I hope every last one of those pathetic "jurors" gets ostracized for the rest of their worthless lives.
catlover79 07-08-2011, 10:29 PM Sonny, vent away, you're among friends!!!
It does not offend me at all. I am outraged, too. And beyond disgusted.
I heard that some establishments in Clearwater, Florida are posting signs in their window that they refuse to welcome or serve anyone who was on that supposed jury. I hope every last one of those pathetic "jurors" gets ostracized for the rest of their worthless lives.
ohno: Seriously, that is really stupid and shameful to do that
robyrob 07-09-2011, 07:33 AM ohno: Seriously, that is really stupid and shameful to do that
some business owners may want to prevent riots from starting in their store.
or they may just have a soul.
old grouch 07-09-2011, 08:34 AM That is uncalled for...
Sorry you were offended by my post, Dork.
Hollow 07-09-2011, 09:16 AM i don't think anyone should ever "move on" or forget about Caylee and just let Casey or the jurors off the hook.
even if they completely disbelieved ALL of the evidence and all of the other possible situations in this case, she had a child in HER care, she lost that child and then proceeded to do everything in her power to HIDE the fact that the child was missing or in danger, never lifted a finger to find the child and intentionally mislead the police and everyone else in the search for that child, and then that child turns up dead - this should automatically be negligent homicide and by definition of the law manslaughter.
last week in Dayton a woman got drunk and passed out in the street and left her two young kids wandering in traffic - they lived but she'll probably do more time than Casey - they didn't find any DNA on her either.
well said; even if caylee's murder were totally someone else's doing, which it was not, the very god damn least conviction for casey should have been child neglect.
i'm not too worried though, her future is virtually over. she'll probably be harassed and attacked to the point of wishing she were back in her nice solitary jail cell.
on a closing note, RT @DRUNKHULK: WOW! SHOCK ENDING! DRUNK HULK HOPE THEY RENEW CASEY ANTHONY SHOW FOR SECOND SEASON!
JamesG 07-09-2011, 11:03 AM I was wondering about something, where is the little girl's father in all of this?
I did not follow this case from the start so I really don't know every detail about it. I have seen nothing at all mentioned on Caylee's father in any reports.
I would assume he's been out of the Anthony's lives before all of this happened?
-STEFFY- 07-09-2011, 11:06 AM I was wondering about something, where is the little girl's father in all of this?
Supposedly the father is some guy who died in a motorcycle or car accident.
YoliUSA 07-09-2011, 11:27 AM I was wondering about something, where is the little girl's father in all of this?
I did not follow this case from the start so I really don't know every detail about it. I have seen nothing at all mentioned on Caylee's father in any reports.
I would assume he's been out of the Anthony's lives before all of this happened?
Nobody knows who Caylee's father is. Casey claimed Jesse Grund (the guy she was dating when she was preg. with Caylee) was the father, but DNA testing proved he wasn't, plus they weren't dating at the time the baby was conceived. IIRC she told her parents the father died in a car accident, and according to some friends the version she gave them was that the father died on a car accident, while he was driving to Caylee's birthday party. Since Casey is obviously a pathological liar it will never be known probably.
ETA: Cledus T. Judd, Gary LeVox (Rascal Flatts) & Jimmy Yeary wrote this song in honor of Caylee. It's a very beautiful song.
"She's Going Places", A Tribute Song For Caylee Anthony (http://youtu.be/aLudQC0MBJU)
I was wondering about something, where is the little girl's father in all of this?
I did not follow this case from the start so I really don't know every detail about it. I have seen nothing at all mentioned on Caylee's father in any reports.
I would assume he's been out of the Anthony's lives before all of this happened?
Caylee's father died in a car accident in 2007
Family Ties Forever! 07-09-2011, 05:33 PM ETA: Cledus T. Judd, Gary LeVox (Rascal Flatts) & Jimmy Yeary wrote this song in honor of Caylee. It's a very beautiful song.
"She's Going Places", A Tribute Song For Caylee Anthony (http://youtu.be/aLudQC0MBJU)
That is a sweet tribute song for Caylee. That poor little girl. :(
Juror No. 12 has gone eighty-six.
A juror in the Casey Anthony murder trial, described as a woman in her 60s, has quit her job at a grocery store and gone into hiding in fear of how her co-workers would react to the court decision she helped render.
The woman, a redhead further identified as Juror No. 12, has received death threats and told her husband before packing her bags and leaving, "I'd rather go to jail than sit on a jury like this again," MSNBC reports
The husband says he, too, is following his wife into hiding and that she phoned in her resignation to the Publix store rather than go there in person, out of concerns that the other employees would want her head on a platter.
The juror's name and destination are being withheld, though it was said she is a Michigan native. In a profile of the jury, PEOPLE described her as the mother of two children and one young grandchild. Having worked part-time as a cook at a Publix supermarket, she often looked to the female prosecutor for reaction from the testimony. A fan of legal dramas, she said, "I have no problem deciding on the death penalty."
Two weeks ago, Anthony, 25, was acquitted of all felony charges, including first-degree murder, in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in 2008.
She was sentenced last Wednesday to four years behind bars for four separate misdemeanor counts of lying to law-enforcement officials when Caylee went missing. Because of time already served, she is scheduled to be released Sunday.
That is disgusting she is getting death threats and had to go into hiding! :thumbsdow
-STEFFY- 07-11-2011, 05:29 PM Juror No. 12 has gone eighty-six.
A juror in the Casey Anthony murder trial, described as a woman in her 60s, has quit her job at a grocery store and gone into hiding in fear of how her co-workers would react to the court decision she helped render.
That is disgusting she is getting death threats and had to go into hiding! :thumbsdow
Boo-Hoo
Boo-Hoo
:rolleyes: If that happened to you, you would have gone into hiding too
-STEFFY- 07-11-2011, 05:36 PM :rolleyes: If that happened to you, you would have gone into hiding too
That never would have happened to me.
That never would have happened to me.
Sure....
-STEFFY- 07-11-2011, 05:44 PM Sure....
Yeah, SURE, I would never have found a baby killer "not guilty." So to reiterate, that never would have happened to me.
Mr. Television 07-11-2011, 05:57 PM Yeah, SURE, I would never have found a baby killer "not guilty." So to reiterate, that never would have happened to me.
It wouldn't have happened to me either.
Janice 07-11-2011, 06:27 PM Same here. I'd be the lone holdout, thus creating a hung jury. Then just try the killer bitch over again. Learn from your mistakes made in picking out that dumbass jury, and for mistakes made in the courtroom. A do-over would have been nice.
Riley Martin 07-11-2011, 06:31 PM Juror No. 12 has gone eighty-six.
A juror in the Casey Anthony murder trial, described as a woman in her 60s, has quit her job at a grocery store and gone into hiding in fear of how her co-workers would react to the court decision she helped render.
The woman, a redhead further identified as Juror No. 12, has received death threats and told her husband before packing her bags and leaving, "I'd rather go to jail than sit on a jury like this again," MSNBC reports
The husband says he, too, is following his wife into hiding and that she phoned in her resignation to the Publix store rather than go there in person, out of concerns that the other employees would want her head on a platter.
The juror's name and destination are being withheld, though it was said she is a Michigan native. In a profile of the jury, PEOPLE described her as the mother of two children and one young grandchild. Having worked part-time as a cook at a Publix supermarket, she often looked to the female prosecutor for reaction from the testimony. A fan of legal dramas, she said, "I have no problem deciding on the death penalty."
Two weeks ago, Anthony, 25, was acquitted of all felony charges, including first-degree murder, in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in 2008.
She was sentenced last Wednesday to four years behind bars for four separate misdemeanor counts of lying to law-enforcement officials when Caylee went missing. Because of time already served, she is scheduled to be released Sunday.
That is disgusting she is getting death threats and had to go into hiding! :thumbsdow
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Janice 07-11-2011, 07:12 PM Juror No. 12 has gone eighty-six.
A juror in the Casey Anthony murder trial, described as a woman in her 60s, has quit her job at a grocery store and gone into hiding in fear of how her co-workers would react to the court decision she helped render.
The woman, a redhead further identified as Juror No. 12, has received death threats and told her husband before packing her bags and leaving, "I'd rather go to jail than sit on a jury like this again," MSNBC reports
The husband says he, too, is following his wife into hiding and that she phoned in her resignation to the Publix store rather than go there in person, out of concerns that the other employees would want her head on a platter.
The juror's name and destination are being withheld, though it was said she is a Michigan native. In a profile of the jury, PEOPLE described her as the mother of two children and one young grandchild. Having worked part-time as a cook at a Publix supermarket, she often looked to the female prosecutor for reaction from the testimony. A fan of legal dramas, she said, "I have no problem deciding on the death penalty."
Two weeks ago, Anthony, 25, was acquitted of all felony charges, including first-degree murder, in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, whose remains were found in 2008.
She was sentenced last Wednesday to four years behind bars for four separate misdemeanor counts of lying to law-enforcement officials when Caylee went missing. Because of time already served, she is scheduled to be released Sunday.
That is disgusting she is getting death threats and had to go into hiding! :thumbsdow
Let's see or hear those death threats. She's afraid of her co-workers? Yeah, more like ashamed to see them. They wouldln't hurt her. Sounds like she's laying the groundwork for a lawsuit. She just hasn't decided yet who she's going to sue. Zanny the Nanny is suing Casey Anthony. Everyone's going to be sue happy.
Mr. Television 07-11-2011, 07:14 PM Same here. I'd be the lone holdout, thus creating a hung jury. Then just try the killer bitch over again. Learn from your mistakes made in picking out that dumbass jury, and for mistakes made in the courtroom. A do-over would have been nice.
I guess the foreman of the jury said today that he felt sick signing the paper that released her. He said there were a few jurors who felt that way. Then why did they go along with the verdict? How can you aquit someone that you're pretty sure is a murderer?
I guess the foreman of the jury said today that he felt sick signing the paper that released her. He said there were a few jurors who felt that way. Then why did they go along with the verdict? How can you aquit someone that you're pretty sure is a murderer?
That is because of lack of evidence so they had no option but to give the not guilty verdict
Mr. Television 07-11-2011, 07:30 PM That is because of lack of evidence so they had no option but to give the not guilty verdict
Well then they just have to live with it. Most of the country disagrees with them.
Mr. Television 07-11-2011, 07:41 PM http://abcnews.go.com/US/casey-anthony-video-unsealed-court/story?id=14047655
Casey Anthony Video Sealed as Too 'Inflammatory' Now May Be Released
By CHRISTINA NG
July 11, 2011
A Florida judge is considering whether to unseal a jailhouse video of acquitted murder suspect Casey Anthony that was considered so "highly inflammatory" that it would have made it difficult to give her a fair trial.
The video shows Anthony reacting to news reports that a child's body had been found in a swampy area near the Anthony home.
The tape reportedly shows Anthony double over and start to hyperventilate when Orange County jail officials told her a meter reader had stumbled upon the remains near Suburban Drive, according to an Orlando Sentinel article from 2009.
At the time of the Dec. 11, 2008 video, the body was not identiifed to be the remains of her 2-year-od daughter Caylee. Positive identification came eight days later.
The court took what is called an "unusual step" and sealed the video on June 17, 2009 claiming that allowing the public to see it would be "highly inflammatory," and that the court "could not absolutely protect the defendant's right to a fair trial," according to the order to seal document.
Casey Anthony, 25, was acquitted last week of charges of killing her daughter Caylee and is scheduled to be released from jail this Sunday after serving out the remaining sentence for lying to law enforcement officers about Caylee's disappearance.
Orlando television station WKMG-TV Local 6 filed the request to unseal the video last week on July 6 just before the verdict came down. The station argued in its filing that "Now that the trial has started and the jury is sequestered, no prejudice to the defendant's right to a fair trial could incur."
While other pieces of evidence could be seen as damaging, the court said that "no other item comes to mind that would carry a similar inflammatory impact."
Casey Anthony's attorney Jose Baez declined to comment on the request.
Danielle Tavernier, a spokesperson for the Orange and Osceola County State Attorney's Office, said that the matter is between the judge and the TV station. "We don't have a dog in that fight," Tavernier said.
If released, the tape could further fan the outrage surrounding Anthony's not guilty verdict in the murder of her daughter.
In the past week, the jurors, Anthony family and Judge Belvin Perry have received threats regarding the case.
Anthony's highly-anticipated release from jail on Sunday has already prompted concerns for her safety and the announcement that special measures will be taken to protect her.
The Orange County Courthouse did not respond to inquiries regarding the time frame for when this decision will be made.
Janice 07-11-2011, 10:03 PM The jury had no choice due to lack of evidence. Don't believe the spin. There was plenty of circumstantial evidence and enough physical evidence to convict her. Casey's behavior in not reporting her daughter at all, the smell of death in Casey's car, the duct tape, her tattoo, the chloroform and other internet searches, her endless lies, lies and more lies.
For Heaven's sake, she was the last person with Caylee. What did Casey do with Caylee if she didn't kill her? How did the duct tape get on Caylee's face? Who tossed the baby in the swamp like a sack of trash? If we believe Fred Flinstone head, Jose Baez's cockamamie theory, then Caylee drowned. Then, George Anthony, a former cop, covered up the accident to make it look like a murder. Yeah, that makes loads of sense. How STUPID was that jury? Twelve dumbasses.
Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder with no body and far less circumstantial evidence. I guess it's easier to convict a man than a big-eyed cutie with the best body around. We know that for a fact because Casey won that "Best Body" contest just days after Caylee went missing. Isn't that what the mothers of all missing children do? At least Diane Downs and Susan Smith tried to play the role of mothers out of their minds with worry. This a hole partied up a storm.
So, I guess if someone wants to kill their child, just put them in a place where the body will decompose fast enough, and the animals will feast on the body. The goal is to have the evidence eaten, decomposed and GONE. That's it! It's as easy as 1,2,3. It doesn't matter if you were the last one with the child. You may have to spend a couple of years behind bars waiting for your trial; but in the end, it's payday time. Million dollar interviews, bookdeals for all! Barbara Walters is on the phone. The jury, the slimeball defense team, and especially that murdering bitch, Casey Anthony, enjoy your blood money.
Isn't it something how she changed her look the minute the jury was dismissed. The next day, she shows up in court with that figure hugging sweater and her long hair that she kept stroking, looking like a Angelina Jolie wannabe. Fluttering her eyelashes at any male who spoke to her. No more tears for her. The only tears she ever shed were for herself.
Shame on that jury and her defense team. They have blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned. Casey killed Caylee, and she's free because of them. Karma's a son-of-a-bitch. They'll all pay for this. Count on it. If not in this life, then in the next. I hate them all, every last one of them.
Mr. Television 07-11-2011, 10:18 PM One of the jurors is on Fox News right now.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/national/Jury-Foreman-Talks-About-Casey-Anthony-Trial-20110711-am-sd
Jury Foreman Talks About Casey Anthony Trial
Updated: Monday, 11 Jul 2011, 7:32 AM EDT
Published : Monday, 11 Jul 2011, 7:32 AM EDT
By KAREN GRAHAM/myfoxatlanta
Days after the Casey Anthony verdict and sentencing people are still talking and still have questions -- like what went on in that deliberation room?
How did 12 people decide the 25-year-old Florida mom was innocent of killing her 2-year-old daughter?
Monday night, FOX's Greta Van Susteren has an exclusive interview with the jury foreman.
And from him -- we get a clearer picture -- that the jury's "not guilty" verdict does not mean they thought Casey Anthony was innocent.
"We the jury find the defendant not guilty," said the jury in the Casey Anthony trial.
Those words not only stunned the millions of people watching the trial but also left a sickening feeling in the stomachs of those who rendered the verdict.
"When I had to sign off on the verdicts, the sheet that was given to me, there was a feeling of disgust that came across me, knowing that my signature and hers were going to be there, on the same sheet," said the jury forman.
The jury foreman in the Casey Anthony trial -- who asked not to be identified -- says many of the jurors believe Casey Anthony killed her daughter Caylee.
But because the prosecution never showed how it happened, they were -- by the letter of the law -- forced to rule for acquittal on all murder charges.
The jury foreman also tells Van Susteren Casey wasn't the only Anthony family member that raised an eyebrow of suspicion during the trial.
"Did anyone think George was believable, out of the 12 of you, George was believable or credible or were others likewise suspicious of him," asked Greta Van Susteren.
"There was a suspicion, there was a suspicion of him that was a part of our conversation that we had of what I'd call the round robin of topics we had when we were doing deliberation," said the jury foreman.
There have been several threats -- some of them very disturbing -- against the jury and Casey Anthony. The judge in the case is holding off on releasing the jurors' names. It's speculated Casey Anthony -- who is scheduled to be released on Sunday -- will be secretly whisked away for her own safety.
The interview in its entirety will air Monday night on FOX News Channel's "On the Record."
Mr. Television 07-11-2011, 10:47 PM The jury had no choice due to lack of evidence. Don't believe the spin. There was plenty of circumstantial evidence and enough physical evidence to convict her. Casey's behavior in not reporting her daughter at all, the smell of death in Casey's car, the duct tape, her tattoo, the chloroform and other internet searches, her endless lies, lies and more lies.
For Heaven's sake, she was the last person with Caylee. What did Casey do with Caylee if she didn't kill her? How did the duct tape get on Caylee's face? Who tossed the baby in the swamp like a sack of trash? If we believe Fred Flinstone head, Jose Baez's cockamamie theory, then Caylee drowned. Then, George Anthony, a former cop, covered up the accident to make it look like a murder. Yeah, that makes loads of sense. How STUPID was that jury? Twelve dumbasses.
Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder with no body and far less circumstantial evidence. I guess it's easier to convict a man than a big-eyed cutie with the best body around. We know that for a fact because Casey won that "Best Body" contest just days after Caylee went missing. Isn't that what the mothers of all missing children do? At least Diane Downs and Susan Smith tried to play the role of mothers out of their minds with worry. This a hole partied up a storm.
So, I guess if someone wants to kill their child, just put them in a place where the body will decompose fast enough, and the animals will feast on the body. The goal is to have the evidence eaten, decomposed and GONE. That's it! It's as easy as 1,2,3. It doesn't matter if you were the last one with the child. You may have to spend a couple of years behind bars waiting for your trial; but in the end, it's payday time. Million dollar interviews, bookdeals for all! Barbara Walters is on the phone. The jury, the slimeball defense team, and especially that murdering bitch, Casey Anthony, enjoy your blood money.
Isn't it something how she changed her look the minute the jury was dismissed. The next day, she shows up in court with that figure hugging sweater and her long hair that she kept stroking, looking like a Angelina Jolie wannabe. Fluttering her eyelashes at any male who spoke to her. No more tears for her. The only tears she ever shed were for herself.
Shame on that jury and her defense team. They have blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned. Casey killed Caylee, and she's free because of them. Karma's a son-of-a-bitch. They'll all pay for this. Count on it. If not in this life, then in the next. I hate them all, every last one of them.
I agree totally Janice. That jury is full of morons. I've been listening to that juror tonight and he's all over the place. They're better off just shutting up. I also read an article where Scott Peterson's lawyer said the same thing you just did. He thinks the jury was right and thinks that's great news for his client. That should tell you something. A great day for murderer's. Get rid of the body and go free.
catlover79 07-12-2011, 01:16 AM How many security guards do you think will be lining the outside of a certain prison this coming Sunday? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
-STEFFY- 07-12-2011, 10:56 AM Shame on that jury and her defense team. They have blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned. Casey killed Caylee, and she's free because of them. Karma's a son-of-a-bitch. They'll all pay for this. Count on it. If not in this life, then in the next. I hate them all, every last one of them.
I HATE them all, too, Janice. Without a doubt, Casey killed an innocent child. Slime ball Baez and that dumbass jury are the ones who got her off and THEY are the ones who decided to set her free. It is so beyond sickening. I STILL feel sick to my stomach every time I think about it. I have cried more real tears for Caylee (a child that I never even met) than her own mother did. Casey never cared about Caylee. She truly only cares for herself. I honestly would not mind it if something horrible was to happen to Casey when she is turned loose from that jail. I also wouldn't mind if that lame ass jury suffers in some way now.
If I said what I truly felt about Casey, Team Baez and the jury...I would probably be banned from this site.
Riley Martin 07-13-2011, 02:06 PM Shame on that jury and her defense team. They have blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned. Casey killed Caylee, and she's free because of them. Karma's a son-of-a-bitch. They'll all pay for this. Count on it. If not in this life, then in the next. I hate them all, every last one of them.
Why do I get the impression they and Casey will all be in a real life version of the "Final Destination" movie series?:D
-STEFFY- 07-13-2011, 05:51 PM it came down to the lack of physical evidence.
^^^ Scott Peterson was convicted on much less evidence.
The Casey Anthony 'jurors' are total idiots that probably slept during most of the trial. There is no way that skank Casey didn't kill Caylee. She should have gotten life in prison with no parole or even death.
There was MORE than enough evidence to convict Casey, and it is so very obvious what happened. Those 'jurors' have no common sense. Apparently, they all followed Jose Baez down that rabbit hole into fantasy land and they all have decided to suspend reality.
Vahan 07-13-2011, 08:19 PM http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/13/casey-anthony-pennsylvania_n_897147.html?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl1|sec1_lnk2|77669
Here's an unusual moment. A man in Pennsylvania is being harassed because his name is ALSO Casey Anthony.
Family Ties Forever! 07-13-2011, 08:38 PM ^ It's unfortunate for people with the same name as her.
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Casey Anthony, Pennsylvania Man, Harassed Because Of Name
First Posted: 7/13/11 02:34 PM ET Updated: 7/13/11 03:25 PM ET
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Stumble Casey Anthony, a 43-year-old man from Darby, Penn., says he's "not the Casey Anthony you think." But having the same name as the 25-year-old woman who last week was acquitted of killing her daughter, Caylee, is enough to generate hundreds of Facebook messages, posts and friend requests from people who want to share with him their thoughts about the controversial verdict, according to NBC Philadelphia.
And because his phone number was listed on his profile, he's now having to screen his calls. Search engine Spokeo.com lists 35 people in the United States with the name Casey Anthony. A Facebook search returns dozens of Casey Anthony profiles, although many of them appear to be fake accounts.
This Casey Anthony isn't the only person who's been harassed because of the verdit. One juror, worried about her safety, has gone into hiding. Bill Zwecker of The Chicago Sun-Timesreports that the 25-year-old Casey Anthony, who is being released from prison on Wednesday, is planning on using a different name and moving to an undisclosed location. Zwecker's source said that Anthony will be living "almost as if she was living in a witness protection-like program."
Even if she changes her name and moves, people will most likely still recongize her.
robyrob 07-13-2011, 10:43 PM ^ It's unfortunate for people with the same name as her.
Even if she changes her name and moves, people will most likely still recongize her.
i don't know - look at Karla Homolka, after all those murders she was set free because of a stupid deal with the prosecutors, she then changed her name and looks and lives somewhere in Quebec completely undisturbed and out of the public eye.
catlover79 07-13-2011, 11:04 PM Or Claus Van Bulow, who went on trial for allegedly trying to kill his wife via an insulin overdose in 1980, but was acquitted and comes and goes as he pleases - writing film and theatre reviews in London. Sunny Van Bulow finally died in late 2008 after spending 28 years in an irreversible coma.
Family Ties Forever! 07-13-2011, 11:08 PM The jury had no choice due to lack of evidence. Don't believe the spin. There was plenty of circumstantial evidence and enough physical evidence to convict her. Casey's behavior in not reporting her daughter at all, the smell of death in Casey's car, the duct tape, her tattoo, the chloroform and other internet searches, her endless lies, lies and more lies.
For Heaven's sake, she was the last person with Caylee. What did Casey do with Caylee if she didn't kill her? How did the duct tape get on Caylee's face? Who tossed the baby in the swamp like a sack of trash? If we believe Fred Flinstone head, Jose Baez's cockamamie theory, then Caylee drowned. Then, George Anthony, a former cop, covered up the accident to make it look like a murder. Yeah, that makes loads of sense. How STUPID was that jury? Twelve dumbasses.
Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder with no body and far less circumstantial evidence. I guess it's easier to convict a man than a big-eyed cutie with the best body around. We know that for a fact because Casey won that "Best Body" contest just days after Caylee went missing. Isn't that what the mothers of all missing children do? At least Diane Downs and Susan Smith tried to play the role of mothers out of their minds with worry. This a hole partied up a storm.
So, I guess if someone wants to kill their child, just put them in a place where the body will decompose fast enough, and the animals will feast on the body. The goal is to have the evidence eaten, decomposed and GONE. That's it! It's as easy as 1,2,3. It doesn't matter if you were the last one with the child. You may have to spend a couple of years behind bars waiting for your trial; but in the end, it's payday time. Million dollar interviews, bookdeals for all! Barbara Walters is on the phone. The jury, the slimeball defense team, and especially that murdering bitch, Casey Anthony, enjoy your blood money.
Isn't it something how she changed her look the minute the jury was dismissed. The next day, she shows up in court with that figure hugging sweater and her long hair that she kept stroking, looking like a Angelina Jolie wannabe. Fluttering her eyelashes at any male who spoke to her. No more tears for her. The only tears she ever shed were for herself.
Shame on that jury and her defense team. They have blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned. Casey killed Caylee, and she's free because of them. Karma's a son-of-a-bitch. They'll all pay for this. Count on it. If not in this life, then in the next. I hate them all, every last one of them.
Those are very good points that you made. How much more evidence did that jury and the defense team need? I mean, it seems to me that there was an overwhelming amount of evidence. Perhaps the jury only 'saw' and 'heard' what they wanted to. I don't know how the jury can live with knowing that they set Casey free. It sets a terrible example.
Not only is it disturbing that she changed her appearance at the end, but the smiling -- sickening. How a woman whose child is dead can smile like that is beyond me.
old grouch 07-14-2011, 09:45 AM ^ It's unfortunate for people with the same name as her.
Even if she changes her name and moves, people will most likely still recongize her.
It could be worse. His name could be Charles Manson.
old grouch 07-14-2011, 09:46 AM Those are very good points that you made. How much more evidence did that jury and the defense team need? I mean, it seems to me that there was an overwhelming amount of evidence. Perhaps the jury only 'saw' and 'heard' what they wanted to. I don't know how the jury can live with knowing that they set Casey free. It sets a terrible example.
Not only is it disturbing that she changed her appearance at the end, but the smiling -- sickening. How a woman whose child is dead can smile like that is beyond me.
Because the woman has no soul.
-STEFFY- 07-15-2011, 05:49 AM Because the woman has no soul.
^^^ She is pure evil masquerading as a human being.
I wonder if the skank would have been convicted if she was fat and ugly. Who knows with that dumbass "jury."
shotzette 07-15-2011, 02:16 PM God, I so did not want to get involved with this cluster...
It was a capital murder case. In a capital case, there has to be hard evidence, not just circumstantial. The moron prosecutors should have tried for a lesser charge (manslaughter, negligent homicide, whatever...) because they could have just relied on circumstantial evidence. When the judge tells the jury point blank that they cannot convict on strictly circumstantial evidence, they can't do it. Two little words, people--"reasonable doubt". The prosecutors were arrogant enough to think that they could try this case in the court of public opinion, and they failed. Casey has been acquitted; period, end of story.
Also, the jury was sequestered. They weren't allowed to communicate or receive any of the so-called evidence that was being regurgitated on infotainment shows like Nancy Grace.
-STEFFY- 07-15-2011, 04:27 PM God, I so did not want to get involved with this cluster...
^ Then you shouldn't have, because you apparently followed Jose Baez down that rabbit hole into fantasy land just like the jury did.
robyrob 07-15-2011, 05:13 PM God, I so did not want to get involved with this cluster...
It was a capital murder case. In a capital case, there has to be hard evidence, not just circumstantial. The moron prosecutors should have tried for a lesser charge (manslaughter, negligent homicide, whatever...) because they could have just relied on circumstantial evidence. When the judge tells the jury point blank that they cannot convict on strictly circumstantial evidence, they can't do it. Two little words, people--"reasonable doubt". The prosecutors were arrogant enough to think that they could try this case in the court of public opinion, and they failed. Casey has been acquitted; period, end of story.
Also, the jury was sequestered. They weren't allowed to communicate or receive any of the so-called evidence that was being regurgitated on infotainment shows like Nancy Grace.
not true, they can convict with circumstantial evidence, they just have to convince the jury to do it.
also, the jury could have found her guilty of something other than premeditated murder; they could have found her guilty of manslaughter, negligent homicide, or "whatever"
"reasonable doubt" has to be just that - REASONABLE. While I am sure that hypothetically Caylee could have been abducted by aliens that dumped her body, or that she could have crawled into that plastic bag and duct-taped her own mouth and then crawled into Casey's trunk, died, then resuscitated herself, opened up the trunk, then crawled to the wooded area where her body was eventually found - neither of those scenarios are what I would call "reasonable".
It is most likely that Casey will be out of jail on Sunday so let's congratulate Casey and celebrate her freedom
-STEFFY- 07-15-2011, 09:32 PM It is most likely that Casey will be out of jail on Sunday so let's congratulate Casey and celebrate her freedom
I hope her freedom is celebrated along with a terminal illness for her.
Mr. Television 07-15-2011, 09:49 PM It is most likely that Casey will be out of jail on Sunday so let's congratulate Casey and celebrate her freedom
I hope she likes her new life in hiding because that's what she's going to have to do. I hope the bitch rots in Hell.
-STEFFY- 07-15-2011, 10:02 PM I hope the bitch rots in Hell.
She does need to rot in hell, or a bullet in her brain might do nicely.
shotzette 07-16-2011, 12:41 AM Or I choose to think instead of following the mob mentality. Have you ever served on a jury? There are pretty clear cut parameters about what you are able to consider and what you are not.
I do not think that Casey is innocent, but unless I was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was guilty, I would have to vote for "not guilty". The prosecutors should have been more diligent and less ambitious with their charge and then they most likely would have gotten a conviction.
Janice 07-16-2011, 01:30 AM not true, they can convict with circumstantial evidence, they just have to convince the jury to do it.
also, the jury could have found her guilty of something other than premeditated murder; they could have found her guilty of manslaughter, negligent homicide, or "whatever"
"reasonable doubt" has to be just that - REASONABLE. While I am sure that hypothetically Caylee could have been abducted by aliens that dumped her body, or that she could have crawled into that plastic bag and duct-taped her own mouth and then crawled into Casey's trunk, died, then resuscitated herself, opened up the trunk, then crawled to the wooded area where her body was eventually found - neither of those scenarios are what I would call "reasonable".
Very well stated. That jury, bunch of dumbasses. They know that bitch killed that poor little girl. She was the last one to see her alive and hid the fact that she "disappeared". And LOL at the theory that her father tried to make an accident look like a murder.
Family Ties Forever! 07-16-2011, 01:53 AM It is most likely that Casey will be out of jail on Sunday so let's congratulate Casey and celebrate her freedom
Celebrate? That would be in very poor taste considering her daughter is dead. Casey and the defense team might want to party, but they are forgetting that there is no real winner here. Caylee is gone and can't be replaced.
Janice 07-16-2011, 02:08 AM Celebrate? That would be in very poor taste considering her daughter is dead. Casey and the defense team might want to party, but they are forgetting that there is no real winner here. Caylee is gone and can't be replaced.
That's right, although Casey acted like she just hit the lottery the day the verdict came in. pig:
This little angel is all that matters; Caylee's memory. Justice will be hers. Our time on earth is short.
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Mr. Television 07-16-2011, 06:32 AM Or I choose to think instead of following the mob mentality. Have you ever served on a jury? There are pretty clear cut parameters about what you are able to consider and what you are not.
I do not think that Casey is innocent, but unless I was convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was guilty, I would have to vote for "not guilty". The prosecutors should have been more diligent and less ambitious with their charge and then they most likely would have gotten a conviction.
It's the defenses job to create a doubt in the jury's mind. They all do that. Most of the time it's all made up. That jury made up their mind the minute the opening statements were done. They liked the defense lawyer. They felt sorry for Casey. That is the only explanation for the verdict they came back with. There have been plenty of instances of people being found guilty with a lot less evidence then the prosecution had against Casey. I do not remember ever seeing a case where the defendant continues to lie about everything and is caught in those lies and is found not guilty. She didn't even testify to try to explain herself. I know you are not supposed to hold that against her but when she continues to lie, then the only thing you can believe from her side is nothing.
old grouch 07-16-2011, 09:31 AM It is most likely that Casey will be out of jail on Sunday so let's congratulate Casey and celebrate her freedom
Uh...what??? :eek:
I'm sure that Casey will be throwing a big old party. Maybe she will invite you, Dork. Personally I don't see any reason to celebrate.
Family Ties Forever! 07-16-2011, 07:36 PM Casey Anthony's Release Draws Near (video) (http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/07/15/florida.anthony.release/index.html?eref=ib_topstories)
JamesG 07-17-2011, 12:43 PM Casey Anthony Released From Jail
Jul 17, 2011
by Kate Stanhope
Casey Anthony is a free woman after being released from jail early Sunday.
Anthony, 25, was met with hundreds of protesters calling her a "baby killer" as she walked out of the front door of the Orange County Booking and Release Center in Orlando, Fla., at 12:14 a.m.
On her way out, she was given $537.68 (the remaining amount in her inmate account) and received a police escort into a gray SUV.
"She had a look of relief on her face," Tony Zumbado, a photographer selected by the jail to witness her release, told People. "There was a smile on her face. She looked glad to be out of there."
Anthony was acquitted of killing her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee, on July 5, but was sentenced to four years in jail for giving false information to law enforcement officials.
Anthony was given credit for good behavior and time served — she had already spent 997 days in jail.
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Casey-Anthony-Released-1035404.aspx
catlover79 07-17-2011, 02:24 PM The circus is really only just beginning...:eek: :eek: :eek:
There was no justice for Caylee Anthony, absolutely none. Poor little girl!
How could a mother be so evil?
It is most likely that Casey will be out of jail on Sunday so let's congratulate Casey and celebrate her freedom
You are sick
Retro4Life 07-19-2011, 12:49 AM ^ Lee, do you mind if I ask if you have ever served on a jury?
^ Lee, do you mind if I ask if you have ever served on a jury?
No, and I hope I never have to. I do not want to be put in a position where
I have to decide a criminal defendant's fate. And besides, I have a medical
condition(Autism) which would prevent me from serving anyway.
yayaya 07-20-2011, 10:38 PM Scott Peterson was convicted of double murder with no body
Actually, his wife's decomposed remains and the remains of their son (whose body was in much better condition than his mother's) did wash ashore. Laci's head was missing. The baby still had his internal organs and all of his limbs.
The case I think that is more along the lines of the Caylee murder is that of Chandra Levy. Her skeletal remains were found and there was no clear cut evidence of how she died. Her death was considered homicide based simply on the fact the coroner stated Chandra had no pre-existing medical condition, it didn't seem possible that she fell and hit her head so therefore, her death had to be a homicide. This is similar to what was said about Caylee Anthony. Caylee didn't kill herself, she was tossed in the woods like trash, she didn't get there on her own, and all of the accidental drowning victims Dr. G. handled, the parent(s) called for help. No victim had ever been disposed of.
In a capital case, there has to be hard evidence, not just circumstantial
The basis for a verdict has to be beyond a reasonable doubt in a criminal case, regardless if it is a death penalty case or misdemeanor case.
Family Ties Forever! 07-27-2011, 12:50 PM link (http://www.click2houston.com/news/28680870/detail.html)
Casey Anthony Juror Names To Be Released
Perry Rules In Favor Of Media Motion To Release Names
Posted: Wednesday, July 27, 2011
Updated: 9:51 am CDT July 27, 2011
Orlando, Fla. -- Judge Belvin Perry has ruled in favor of a motion requesting that the names of jurors in the Casey Anthony murder trial be released to the public -- but not for several months. Perry issued the order just after 5 p.m. Tuesday. Various media entities had requested that the juror names be released, but Perry was hesitant to do so due to the high-profile nature of the case and the fact that, "the jury returned a verdict which was not viewed in popular light by a large segment of the public." Perry said he will release the jurors names on or after Oct. 25. On July 5, the jury, selected in Pinellas County due to intense media saturation in Central Florida, found Anthony not guilty of murdering her daughter, Caylee Anthony.
Anthony was acquitted of all felony charges in her 2-year-old daughter's death. She was found guilty of 4 misdemeanor charges of lying to law enforcement. Anthony was sentenced to one year per count. She had been in the Orange County Jail since October 2008, and after being given credit for time served and gain time, she was released on July 17. Three members of the jury have already come forward and identified themselves.
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