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ABlairican Pie
05-21-2011, 01:23 AM
From MSNBC.com:

Predictor of May 21 Doomsday to watch it on TV


By Gabrielle Saveri
Reuters
updated 5/20/2011 5:56:31 PM ET 2011-05-20T21:56:31

SAN FRANCISCO — The U.S. evangelical Christian broadcaster predicting that Judgment Day will come on Saturday says he expects to stay close to a TV or radio to monitor the unfolding apocalypse.

Harold Camping, 89, previously made a failed prediction that Jesus Christ would return to Earth in 1994.

The head of the Christian radio network Family Stations Inc says that he is sure an earthquake will shake the Earth on May 21, sweeping true believers to heaven and leaving others behind to be engulfed in the world's destruction over a few months.

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Harold Camping, 89, the California evangelical broadcaster who predicts that Judgment Day will come on May 21, 2011, is seen in this still image from video during an interview at Family Stations Inc. offices in Oakland, California May 16, 2011. REUTERS/Reuters Television

"We know without any shadow of a doubt it is going to happen," Camping told Reuters.

His Family Radio has 66 U.S. stations and broadcasts in more than 30 languages through international affiliates.

His supporters have posted about 2,200 billboards around the United States about the coming apocalypse, and dozens of followers have driven across the country to spread the news.

Camping, a civil engineer who once ran his own construction business, plans to spend May 21 with his wife in Alameda, in northern California, and watch the doomsday unfold.


"I'll probably try to be very near a TV or a radio or something," he said. "I'll be interested in what's happening on the other side of the world as this begins."

Like his last prediction, Camping's doomsday date is based on his reading of the Bible and a timeline dating back to ancient events including the Biblical flood survived by Noah.

'IT MAKES US LOOK WORSE'

Camping's pronouncement of a specific date for the apocalypse puts him outside the Christian mainstream.


Jerry Jenkins, co-author with Tim LaHaye of the "Left Behind" series of apocalyptic novels that have sold millions of copies worldwide, has a problem with the prediction.

"As a believer, I'm already a kook compared to most people, so for someone to choose a date and get everyone excited about a certain time, my problem is it makes us look worse," said Jenkins, 61.

Stephen O'Leary, an expert in religious communication at the University of Southern California, said the idea of rapture espoused by Camping and some more mainstream Christians first appeared in Christian teaching in the 19th century.

"It is very appealing to people," said Barbara Rossing, professor of the New Testament at the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago who describes a huge apocalyptic "prophecy industry" including video games, board games and books.

Atheists are reacting to Camping's pronouncement in their own way.

In Tacoma, Washington, atheists have organized a party for Saturday night at an arcade, under the banner "countdown to backpedaling," on the assumption that Camping and Family Radio will change their story if Judgment Day does not come.

At least 100 people are expected at the party, said Sam Mulvey, 33, an organizer of the event and the producer of a weekly atheist radio show in Tacoma.

"If the world still exists the next day, Family Radio is going to have to say something and most of the time they backpedal, and that's what we're counting down to," he said.

Copyright 2011 Thomson Reuters.

PZelda
05-21-2011, 11:26 AM
He needs to put down his crackpipe and go seek help... IMMEDIATELY. Preferably in isolation, so he can't go around spewing his garbage!

MickeyMac
05-21-2011, 11:47 AM
Some people will fall for anything. :confused:

Penny Lane
05-21-2011, 02:13 PM
How many people in history have predicted the Second Coming or the end of the world? Well if these "preachers" (and I use the term loosely) really studied their scriptures the bible clearly states that NO ONE will know the day and time. False prophecies/prophets are are warned about. I believe that Jesus will return someday(and yes, we are given signs to look for but not the day!). His believer's will be taken to heaven and the earth destroyed. But this is not to be a fearful thing for those who believe. Although I have to admit that it is kind of scary. The unknown you know? It is just ridiculous! When he is proven wrong(AGAIN) will he and his followers commit suicide and jump on the next comet?(shades of Hale Bopp):crazy: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

JamesG
05-21-2011, 02:41 PM
Top 10 End-of-the-World Prophecies
May 20, 2011


The Millerites

William Miller is perhaps the most famous false prophet in history.

In the 1840s he began to preach about the world's end, saying Jesus Christ would return for the long-awaited Second Coming and that Earth would be engulfed in fire sometime between March 21, 1843, and March 21, 1844.

He circulated his message in public gatherings and by using the technologies of the day — posters, printed newsletters and charts.




Moved by those messages, as many as 100,000 "Millerites" sold their belongings between 1840 and 1844 and took to the mountains to wait for the end.

When that end didn't come, Miller changed the date to Oct. 22.

When Oct. 23 rolled around, his loyal followers explained it away yet again and went on to form the Seventh-day Adventist movement.











Harold Camping (1994)

Harold Camping's prediction that the world will end Saturday, May 21, 2011, is not his first such prediction.

In 1992, the evangelist published a book called 1994?, which proclaimed that sometime in mid-September 1994, Christ would return and the world would end.

Camping based his calculations on numbers and dates found in the Bible and, at the time, said that he was "99.9% certain" that his math was correct.




But the world did not end in 1994.

Nor did it end on March 31, 1995 — another date Camping provided when September 1994 passed without incident.

"I'm like the boy who cried wolf again and again and the wolf didn't come," Camping told the San Francisco Chronicle in 1995. "This doesn't bother me in the slightest."











2012

The year 2012 means many things to many people, few of which bring good news.

A New Age belief cites 2012 as the year humans will undergo a physical and spiritual transformation, while some people predict that sometime that year, Earth will collide with a black hole or a planet named Nibiru.




But perhaps the most popular belief is attributed (falsely, many scholars argue) to the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar from the ancient Mayan civilization.

Interpretations suggest that the fourth world, in which we live now, will end on Dec. 21, 2012.

This belief inspired the disaster movie 2012 starring John Cusack, in which a tsunami tosses the aircraft carrier U.S.S. John F. Kennedy onto Washington, crushing the White House and killing the President (played by Danny Glover).











William Branham and the Pentecostal Prediction

Just before sunset on Feb. 28, 1963, residents of northwestern Arizona watched what the Arizona Republic called a "strikingly beautiful and mysterious cloud" glide across the desert.

That same day, Pentecostal pastor William Branham — who founded the post–World War II faith-healing movement — climbed Sunset Mountain and claimed he met with seven angels who revealed to him the meaning of the seven seals from the Book of Revelation.

Days later, Branham returned to his congregation at the Branham Tabernacle in Jeffersonville, Ind. He preached seven sermons in seven nights, explaining the meaning of the seals and the seven visions he had received, leading him to predict that Jesus would return to Earth in 1977.

He did not live to see the day. In December 1965, as Branham was driving with his family in Texas, a drunk driver smashed into his car. Branham died six days later, on Christmas Eve.











The Anabaptists of Munster

In the tumultuous years that followed the Protestant Reformation, myriad radical sects emerged, preaching an apocalyptic, millenarianist creed that perturbed even theological dissidents like Martin Luther.

The Anabaptists derived their name from the Latin for "one who baptizes over again" and rejected most forms of political organization and social hierarchy in favor of an idealized theocratic commonwealth.

In the 1530s, riding on a crest of peasant revolts, a clutch of Anabaptists assumed control of the German town of Munster and hailed it as a New Jerusalem awaiting the return of Christ.





But the situation in Munster was far from the ideal Christian commonwealth.

Jan Bockelson, a tailor from the Dutch city of Leiden, declared himself the "Messiah of the last days," took multiple wives, issued coins that prophesied the coming apocalypse and in general made life hell for everyone in the city,

(except for a few fellow proselytizers who lived lavishly — and, according to some accounts, in a great state of debauch).



The Anabaptists' hold over Munster ended in a bloody siege in 153.
Bockelson's genitals reportedly were nailed to the city's gates.












Late Great Planet Earth and Other Prophecy Books

If you follow Hal Lindsey, you've probably changed the "end of the world" date in your calendar several times.

His Late Great Planet Earth, which was the best-selling nonfiction book of the 1970s, predicted that the world would end sometime before Dec. 31, 1988.

He cited a host of world events — nuclear war, the communist threat and the restoration of Israel — as reasons the end times were upon mankind.





His later books, though less specific, suggested that believers not plan on being on Earth past the 1980s — then the 1990s and, of course, the 2000s.

But Lindsey did more than just wrongly predict the end of days; he popularized a genre of prophecy books.






Adding stock to Lindsey's original claim, Edgar Whisenant published a book in 1988 called 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Will Be in 1988, which sold some 4.5 million copies.

Whisenant once famously said, "Only if the Bible is in error am I wrong."

When 1989 rolled around, a discredited Whisenant published another book, saying the Rapture would occur that year instead.

It did not sell as well, nor did later titles that predicted the world would end in 1993 and again in 1994.






The genre's most popular tales are in the Left Behind series, written by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, which, though they do not predict an end date, provide a vivid fictional account of how Earth's final days could go.

The 16 novels have sold more than 63 million copies worldwide.











Y2K

It was the day that was supposed to finally prove what Luddites and other tech haters had been saying for so long: computers — not sin or religious prophecy come true — will bring us down.

For months before the stroke of midnight on Jan. 1, 2000, analysts speculated that entire computer networks would crash, causing widespread dysfunction for a global population that had become irreversibly dependent on computers to hold, disseminate and analyze its most vital pieces of information.




The problem was that many computers had been programmed to record dates using only the last two digits of every year, meaning that the year 2000 would register as the year 1900, totally screwing with the collective computerized mind.

But it just wasn't so. Aside from a few scattered power failures in various countries, problems in data-transmission systems at some of Japan's nuclear plants (which did not affect their safety) and a temporary interruption in receipt of data from the U.S.'s network of intelligence satellites, the new year arrived with nothing more than the expected hangover.











The Branch Davidians

David Koresh led his Branch Davidian sect, an unsanctioned offshoot of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, to its doom in a compound near Waco, Texas, in 1993.

How did he do that? He convinced his followers that he was Christ and that they should hole up at what was called the Mount Carmel Center to prepare for the end of the world.

Their ideas were based on the beliefs of an earlier Adventist splinter group.





When authorities learned that the Branch Davidians were allegedly holding a trove of weapons on the site and that there were possibly instances of abuse of women and children, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives executed a search on the compound in February 1993.

The Davidians fought back; four agents were killed as well as six members of the sect. Koresh persuaded his followers to remain at Mount Carmel and refuse to surrender.

For 50 days, a tense standoff ensued.



On April 19, the FBI stormed the compound, a fire erupted (the source of which is still debated), and dozens of Davidians, including Koresh, died in the building.











Jehovah's Witnesses

The onset of World War I freaked a lot of people out.

But it was especially trippy for the Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society, a group that's now called Jehovah's Witnesses.




The society's founder, Charles Taze Russell, had previously predicted Christ's invisible return in 1874, followed by anticipation of his Second Coming in 1914.

When WW I broke out that year, Russell interpreted it as a sign of armageddon and the upcoming end of days or, as he called it, the end of "Gentile times."

History proved otherwise.











The Great London Fire of 1666

In the Christian tradition, the number 666 is described as the "mark of the beast" in the Bible's Book of Revelation.

So it was no surprise that Europeans worried as the year 1666 approached. It didn't help that the year before, a plague had wiped out about 100,000 people, a fifth of London's population, leading many to predict the end of times.




Then on Sept. 2, 1666, a fire broke out in a bakery on London's Pudding Lane. The fire spread and over three days burned more than 13,000 buildings and destroyed tens of thousands of homes.

But in the end, fewer than 10 people perished in the blaze, which, while catastrophic, was not the end of the world.

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,2072678_2072683_2072697,00.html

Reverend Jim
05-21-2011, 05:57 PM
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robyrob
05-21-2011, 06:09 PM
does anyone know what time this is supposed to happen? I think my watch is slow, and i was gonna make something to eat, but I don't know if I'm going to have time.

..and i did use this as an excuse not to mow the lawn today.

JamesG
05-21-2011, 06:28 PM
does anyone know what time this is supposed to happen? I think my watch is slow, and i was gonna make something to eat, but I don't know if I'm going to have time.

..and i did use this as an excuse not to mow the lawn today.

Supposed to be at 12:00pm Jerusalem time.

6:00pm where I am in NY.

Penny Lane
05-21-2011, 07:57 PM
It is 7:56 in Michigan(est) and we are still here!:wave:

waichingliu81
05-21-2011, 08:25 PM
it's past 1am in london and it hasn't happened. i knew it was a hoax anyway. didn't believe it would happen for one second.

robyrob
05-21-2011, 10:05 PM
well i am going to throw my hat in the ring and predict that all life on earth will be destroyed on May 17th, approximately 500 million years from now as the sun expands and boils the earth's atmosphere away.

...and i will also use that as an excuse to not mow the lawn on that day.

Marvo301
05-21-2011, 10:11 PM
If anythinwell i am going to throw my hat in the ring and predict that all life on earth will be destroyed on May 17th, approximately 500 million years from now as the sun expands and boils the earth's atmosphere away.

...and i will also use that as an excuse to not mow the lawn on that day.
If anything destroys the Earth it's that it will be smothered to death by robyrob's unmowed grass!!!! :lol: :crazy:

Adamantium
05-22-2011, 05:29 PM
Top 10 End-of-the-World Prophecies
Interpretations suggest that the fourth world, in which we live now, will end on Dec. 21, 2012.

Ugh, if that's true then we won't survive to see Christmas that year. No thanks!

MrCleveland
05-23-2011, 03:10 PM
I'm STILL here...whether I like it or not!

Kuni basically puts it with one word on what happened....

NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! STOOPID...YOU SOOOOO STOOPID!!!!!

AKA
05-23-2011, 06:39 PM
Guys, this is a tragedy of epic proportions. The reason I haven't been posting here lately is because I've been on Facebook reaching out to these people. Jesus loves them so much, yet they've abandoned His church to follow this man's false teachings. It's heartbreaking. Reasoning with them is like trying to reason with a brick wall, yet I keep trying, because I know what that's God wants me to do.

My heart was broken all over again on Saturday when we didn't have a whole lot of 6:01 pm "awakenings." Many of Camping's followers keep making excuses. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

He's going to be on his Open Forum radio/TV show tonight at 5:30 pm (8:30 pm EDT) as-per-usual. Hopefully he'll repent, apologize and step down immediately, but that's not likely. He'll probably just keep spewing more garbage to the vulnerable.

ABlairican Pie
05-23-2011, 07:26 PM
Guys, this is a tragedy of epic proportions. The reason I haven't been posting here lately is because I've been on Facebook reaching out to these people. Jesus loves them so much, yet they've abandoned His church to follow this man's false teachings. It's heartbreaking. Reasoning with them is like trying to reason with a brick wall, yet I keep trying, because I know what that's God wants me to do.

My heart was broken all over again on Saturday when we didn't have a whole lot of 6:01 pm "awakenings." Many of Camping's followers keep making excuses. It would be funny if it wasn't so tragic.

He's going to be on his Open Forum radio/TV show tonight at 5:30 pm (8:30 pm EDT) as-per-usual. Hopefully he'll repent, apologize and step down immediately, but that's not likely. He'll probably just keep spewing more garbage to the vulnerable.
That's really sad. Everyone is going to get a bad impression of Christians because of this, thinking that we're all gullible to think like this man. Every once in a while we get these phony, misguided predictions, and they get forgotten as soon as they DON'T happen. Thank you, Mr. Camping, for your
"Cry Wolf" mentality yet again. Better luck next time, huh? :crazy: :rolleyes:


We are not meant to make predictions as to when the Rapture or Christ's return will occur, but we are instructed to live our lives as if He could return at any moment. That means to do all the good we can, help others, and create a positive atmosphere for all. Very simple.

AKA
05-23-2011, 08:18 PM
Yep. Agreed on all counts, Greg. Last night, I got REALLY mad and posted this to the group I belong to that tries to help the followers of Harold Camping. It's an angry, almost crazy diatribe, but it also has a lot of truths in there.

Jesus loves these people so much, and I know he wants his flock back, and that's why we're here. But reaching out to lost people for the past ten days has been exhausting. While I'm rejoicing for the few Camping followers that I've seen come around and see the light, my heart aches for the majority who are still lost, and who seem to only be slipping further into Satan's deceptions the further we get from May 21.

I was probably naive in thinking that we'd see a huge Saturday 6:01 pm awakening, but the fact that I've only seen a handful of people grasp that they were deceived is both heartbreaking and discouraging. I knew our work would be far-from over at this point, but I had no idea there'd still be this many COMPLETELY lost people.

I've put a lot of things on the back burner this past week because I've been so consumed by the poor, deceived victims of Harold Camping and Family Radio. I've lost a lot of sleep because it has weighed so heavily on my mind. I've experienced every emotion from joy to sadness; laughter to anger.

Tonight, the heartbreak I've been feeling has manifested itself in the form of anger.

I'm angry because Harold Camping and Family Radio have given people who hate Christianity a totally legitimate reason to hate it even more. Hey, I can't blame them!

I'm angry because so many lives are in a state of complete and utter disarray because of this. People are penniless. People are unemployed. People are beside themselves with confusion and anger. People are contemplating suicide because an event their lives have lead to for years never happened. Ultimately, it's up to us, not Family Radio, to help them pick up the pieces.

I'm angry with myself, because three years ago I would watch Harold Camping on TV and make fun of him and his followers, instead of praying. It was obvious even then that their lives were in danger come 2011.

Most of all, I'm angry because although Camping's prediction was a complete failure, so many deceived people have chosen even more deception and confusion, even after reality and logic has smacked them in the face... hard. They were deceived by this man and his teachings, yet we're the ones who are ruled by Satan? How does that work?

Even in the face of all this anger and discouragement, I choose to continue to reach out and help these people in any way that I can, until God tells me to stop. Maybe I just need a good night's sleep (haven't had one of those in a week) and to take a brief sabbatical from this craziness.

Some prayer wouldn't hurt, either.

Galatians 6:9
Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up.

comedyfreak
05-24-2011, 08:42 AM
Now he's given a new date which is October 21st. 2011.:rolleyes:

AKA
05-24-2011, 11:28 AM
Yep. They're mixing a special brand of Kool-Aid right now at the Family Radio compound.

robyrob
05-24-2011, 12:17 PM
i think the majority of people see this guy as a kook and a nutjob and aren't going to hold it against Christians in general.

- I've seen his "calculations", and they have no validity whatsoever, everything he's done is completely arbitrary, so he can basically pick whatever date he chooses

KurtfromPitts
05-25-2011, 11:36 AM
He should be sent to jail for life for scaring us half to death.

ABlairican Pie
05-25-2011, 06:23 PM
He should be sent to jail for life for scaring us half to death.
He can't be sent to jail for life for scaring us half to death because most people didn't take him seriously. Every few years some crackpot makes these specific dates for Christ's return, and every time it's the same goofy nonsense. The very deluded are the ones who believe him and are disappointed--or think he's eventually going to be.

Penny Lane
05-26-2011, 10:33 AM
Got this in an email. Thought it was appropriate!:lol:


CAJUN BAPTIST.....
>
>
> Reverend Boudreaux was the part-time pastor of the local Cajun Baptist
> Church and Pastor Thibodaux was the minister of the Covenant Church across
> the road. They were both standing by the road, pounding a sign into the
> ground that read:
>
> 'Da End is Near
> Turn Yo Sef 'Roun Now
> Afore It Be Too Late!'
>
> As a car sped past them, the driver leaned out his window and yelled, 'You
> religious nuts!'
>
> From the curve they heard screeching tires, and a big splash...
>
> Boudreaux turns to Thib and asks 'Do ya tink maybe da sign should jussay....
> 'Bridge Out?'
> :wave:

tiredmike59
05-26-2011, 10:47 AM
So Camping has a new date for the end of the world ?
Someone should help that man find his marbles.

Regulus
05-26-2011, 10:50 AM
World to end at 10......


Film at 11! :happyface