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jsgtrman 05-13-2011, 03:56 AM There's a bunch of things I've noticed watching through the series, so thought I'd post a few here.
The Finale:
After watching the Finale "Passages" on you tube, it struck me where I've seen mother Kelp (Frances Bay) before. (Shes also in the "Missing episode" "So How Was Your Weekend?". I'm just about positive she was the lady in a Seinfeld episode, who got the last loaf of bread and then Jerry stole it from her on the street, as she screamed thief he ran away. Anybody else remember that?
In the last season, nobody ever explained where Casey went??? I guess she was up in her room studying. :) If Ralph and Potsie weren't invited to the wedding since they weren't family, what about Casey? ROGER was there! She's probably hanging out with Chuck somewhere. :)
Throughout the series:
So....now that the series has re-booted to the beginning, a few more things. I notice that in episode 4 "Guess Who's Coming to Visit?" is the first time we see Fonzie wearing his BLACK leather jacket, as he shows up to the drag race. I guess this made him look more like a drag racing hoodlum, rather than the grey jacket he wore in the daytime?
THIS has bothered me all through the series, anybody else ever notice.... the stairs going to Fonzie's room above the Cunningham garage? The bottom of the stairs are always shown (with the sign with the arrow pointing to "Fonzie") to the left of the garage, between the garage and the house. OK, then if the apartment is directly above the garage....from inside Fonzie's apartment, we see the top of the stairs to the RIGHT of his apartment entrance, where they SHOULD be on the LEFT side, right?
But then, when exiting the kitchen to the RIGHT, that would make the driveway to the LEFT of the house if you're facing it, but of course we don't see the garage to the left side of the house ever.
I also notice when panning in toward the house in opening scenes, I really don't see a driveway at all, nor a garage. The ONLY possible explanation I can think of how it can be justified, is if the driveway is actually entered from BEHIND the house, then it may all line up? But have rarely ever seen any houses like that, and I believe I'd occasionally see a car pull up the drive to the right side of the house. Am I the only one who noticed this? Anybody care to give a shot at an explanation??? :)
In the aforementioned 4th episode above, in the scene Richie is playing basketball with Chuck in the driveway, while Joanie and Potsie watch...there are NO steps at ALL between the house and garage!!!!
Inside the house:
The scenes showing the interior of the Cunningham house.... well, the first season at least is TOTALLY different layout than the later years. Where did that dining room come from??? Did you notice in this 4th episode (and others) the entrance to the house (front door) is on the LEFT of the living room, and not the right as we've come to know it? TO the left is where the fireplace is! So, as they entered in episodes 1-4 from left to right we see: the front door, the stairs leading to upstairs, the fireplace, then the dining ROOM with 4 walls and china cabinets, as opposed to the open dining room we've also come to know just off to the side of the living room.
Anybody notice other stuff? I guess can continue to post here as you see things.
jsgtrman 05-13-2011, 04:17 AM "it struck me where I've seen mother Kelp (Frances Bay) before. (Shes also in the "Missing episode" "So How Was Your Weekend?" "
Oops, sorry I confused MYSELF. That wasn't Mother Kelp Frances Bay played, it was Grandma Nusbaum! She made 2 appearances in the series I believe, the episode Fonzie and Chachi thought she was going senile, and then here in the Finale. But...still think it's the bread lady on Seinfeld, if someone can confirm that?
jsgtrman 05-13-2011, 04:33 AM Another few things I thought funny in these earlier episodes was the role/ personality of Ralph. He definitely seemed more on the "cooler' side, and the one scene in Episode 4 (drag race episode) had him pulling up to "Arthur's" (as it was called then, before it was Arnold's!) with FONZIE as his passenger! WHAT??? I don't recall EVER seeing Fonzie and Ralph buddy buddy like that, and don't ever recall even seeing Fonzie in a CAR! Pretty neat to watch the early stuff again.
dave insinga 05-13-2011, 01:11 PM the last episode on the momathon was SO HOW YOUR WEEKEND so that is not one they skipped
mets82 05-13-2011, 02:48 PM Heres something you might have missed because it happened so fast. Last night, on Happy Days when Richie and Postie went to Postie's cousins bachelor party, in the very beginning of the episode when they pull that gag on Marsha the waitress with the dummy, Ralph says something to the effect "I got the dummy or the dummy clothes from my dads store". Now we find out later on that Ralph's father is an eye doctor.
Also, in the early episodes there was a lot of talk of Aunt Bessie but I dont think we ever saw her. However, Mother Kelp, we did see.
anglemark10 05-14-2011, 12:22 AM Oops, sorry I confused MYSELF. That wasn't Mother Kelp Frances Bay played, it was Grandma Nusbaum! She made 2 appearances in the series I believe, the episode Fonzie and Chachi thought she was going senile, and then here in the Finale. But...still think it's the bread lady on Seinfeld, if someone can confirm that?Yep, it's her.
Also, Howard's niece is K.C., not Casey. I don't think it was ever explained what happened to her.
dave insinga 05-14-2011, 03:56 PM she probably went back with her family anyway next to FLIP, K.C. was the worst character ever on happy days,that whole 10th season story line about her coming to stay with howard and marion was just to have some kid in the house.
it kind of sucked but then again most of that season sucked,thank god for SEASON 11.If the show had ended then that would have been the pits.as far as the other things that were inconsistent well its a tv show about a family growing up in the 50s and early 60s made in the 70s and 80s.11 years is a long time with different writers and a cast of characters ranging in age so they tried
to keep it as interesting for the viewers and face it any show that has a decent run has these inconsistent things going on.
ex.how did andrew grow up so fast on family ties
how did chrissy grow up so fast on growing pains
on threes company was it ever explained what happen to chrissy snow and why she never came back.
the youngest daughter on family matters what happened to her.
shall i go on.
NDHappyDaysFan 05-15-2011, 12:54 AM The whole house thing was physically impossible. I know they probably did it to make the camera work easier in front of the studio audience, but there is no way the front and back door could be on the same side of the house like that, especially once they added the backyard in season 9, which would magically be there going out of the same door from the kitchen that the garage/driveway usually was. It's like a sci-fi show.
The other inconsistancy was Joanie. In season 7, they mention her being a senior, but in season 8 she is still in school and they are talking about college, then in season 9 they are still in high school. So she had a senior year that lasted three seasons. Then she's barely in college and is already student teaching.
Then in season 11 they were talking about Fonzie living above the garage for six years. That almost works with Joannie's three season senior year, but there is still missing time since it should have been 9 years.
mets82 05-15-2011, 01:10 AM The whole house thing was physically impossible. I know they probably did it to make the camera work easier in front of the studio audience, but there is no way the front and back door could be on the same side of the house like that, especially once they added the backyard in season 9, which would magically be there going out of the same door from the kitchen that the garage/driveway usually was. It's like a sci-fi show.
The other inconsistancy was Joanie. In season 7, they mention her being a senior, but in season 8 she is still in school and they are talking about college, then in season 9 they are still in high school. So she had a senior year that lasted three seasons. Then she's barely in college and is already student teaching.
Then in season 11 they were talking about Fonzie living above the garage for six years. That almost works with Joannie's three season senior year, but there is still missing time since it should have been 9 years.
You have a good eye. The only thing I could think of with Joanie is that she was in high school when she left to go to Chicago(?). When she went to Chicago was she in college? Very surprised they never did a graduation episode with Joanie and Chacai.
jsgtrman 05-15-2011, 02:59 AM Nope, when "Joanie loved Chachi" :).... she was taking the summer off before going to college, they had a whole episode on this as she argued with her parents. So, then when their spinoff was cancelled, Joanie came back to go to college, but somehow magically learned enough in a few weeks to become a student teacher??? It took her 3 seasons to graduate high school, but 2 episodes to get thru college enough to be able to teach ON HER OWN, not even as an assistant to observe first, :)
Another thing I noticed when watching "Passages", Fonzie shows up with Danny, and everyone's talking about how great they've been getting along lately and Fonzie's his big brother/ mentor or something....how this and that....and this is the FIRST time we've ever SEEN him! I was wondering "HUH??? Did I miss a few episodes or something?". It was a pretty abrupt intro the first 5 minutes of the finale episode, then going from introducing the character to Fonzie wanting to adopt him to Fonzie getting turned down and devastated...all in about the first 15 minutes. Jeez, I've had goldfish longer than that! :)
It reminded me of the magical Fonzie breakup with Ashley, where it was mentioned but never seen in an episode, just suddenly "Oh yeah, they broke up a while ago, Fonzie's still getting over it"....again "Huh? Did I miss an episode or 2?".
I'm sure the writer's never thought they'd be scrutinized 35 years later for little liberties they took, they did the best they could for whatever reasons at the time I'm sure, and were probably glad just to still be ON the air. So, can understand not wanting to devote an episode to Fonzie breaking up, especially since Linda Purl wasn't on the payroll anymore either, I guess THAT is the best explanation. When we watch them in continuity NOW, we kinda expect them to flow like a daily soap opera I suppose. Back then, continuity or how they'll be viewed in reruns (or on NIck At Night that won't exist for another 10 years) :) understandably wasn't their biggest concern.
Waterston_Fan 05-15-2011, 09:56 AM Nope, when "Joanie loved Chachi" :).... she was taking the summer off before going to college, they had a whole episode on this as she argued with her parents. So, then when their spinoff was cancelled, Joanie came back to go to college, but somehow magically learned enough in a few weeks to become a student teacher??? It took her 3 seasons to graduate high school, but 2 episodes to get thru college enough to be able to teach ON HER OWN, not even as an assistant to observe first, :)
Another thing I noticed when watching "Passages", Fonzie shows up with Danny, and everyone's talking about how great they've been getting along lately and Fonzie's his big brother/ mentor or something....how this and that....and this is the FIRST time we've ever SEEN him! I was wondering "HUH??? Did I miss a few episodes or something?". It was a pretty abrupt intro the first 5 minutes of the finale episode, then going from introducing the character to Fonzie wanting to adopt him to Fonzie getting turned down and devastated...all in about the first 15 minutes. Jeez, I've had goldfish longer than that! :)
It reminded me of the magical Fonzie breakup with Ashley, where it was mentioned but never seen in an episode, just suddenly "Oh yeah, they broke up a while ago, Fonzie's still getting over it"....again "Huh? Did I miss an episode or 2?".
I'm sure the writer's never thought they'd be scrutinized 35 years later for little liberties they took, they did the best they could for whatever reasons at the time I'm sure, and were probably glad just to still be ON the air. So, can understand not wanting to devote an episode to Fonzie breaking up, especially since Linda Purl wasn't on the payroll anymore either, I guess THAT is the best explanation. When we watch them in continuity NOW, we kinda expect them to flow like a daily soap opera I suppose. Back then, continuity or how they'll be viewed in reruns (or on NIck At Night that won't exist for another 10 years) :) understandably wasn't their biggest concern.
I think they just wanted Fonzie to 'grow up' but I don't think he would be a single father at that time and maybe not now either.
Yes, the episode 'Where the guys are' they did talk about Ashley breaking up with him but then it seemed like he was fine before that episode.
YoliUSA 05-15-2011, 09:03 PM Another inconsistency: Joanie and Chachi leave for Chicago after (presumably) finishing high school, yet Jenny apparently is still in HS. Weren't Joanie and Jenny the same age? Either Joanie was older or Jenny was a grade behind. I'm guessing the writers/producers left Jenny's in HS so K.C. would have somebody to interact with.
Also, in the season 11 ep "School Dazed", Fonzie mentions that Joanie played "Candy Land" with Jenny Piccalo when they were 8, but in the season 1 ep "Fonzie Drops In" Fonzie meets Joanie for the 1st time, when she was 12-13ish.
There are inconsistencies in almost every show, but the writers probably thought back then that the casual fan wouldn't notice.
mets82 05-15-2011, 09:07 PM You know I wonder why the writers were all over the place towards the end of the series. I mean for a show that was that popular, Im surprised that the writers just went all over the place the last few seasons based on the posts above.
jsgtrman 05-16-2011, 05:25 AM Another inconsistency: Joanie and Chachi leave for Chicago after (presumably) finishing high school, yet Jenny apparently is still in HS. Weren't Joanie and Jenny the same age? Either Joanie was older or Jenny was a grade behind. I'm guessing the writers/producers left Jenny's in HS so K.C. would have somebody to interact with.
Jenny made a reference in one of the shows that she better study or she'll be left behind again, or will never get out of high school...or something to that effect, explaining why she was still in HS. It was also weird then, that Jenny was always hitting on and hanging all over Roger, which would at MINIMUM make him 22-23 years old to be a teach, and she being 18. I don't recall any of my teachers EVER being just 22 years old though.
Jenny seemed like K.C. though, especially during the last season when she'd only appear out of the blue rarely to make a few cameos. Meaning...we wouldn't see her for 5-6 episodes, then all of the sudden she pops up out of the blue like "Remember ME?". I guess mostly when Joanie and Chachi appeared, but she sure seemed to hit on Chachi a lot too come to think of it, even in front of Joanie, which is a little...skanky?
I also agree that the writers did seem to get very sloppy with continuity issues towards the end. I guess there was probably enough pressure to keep up with production or just to get a show on the air, that they kinda didn't worry so much about fact checking and explaining everything as it related to what had gone before. Rather, it seemed more like they were just putting out mostly individual self contained shows, not much prior knowledge required and maybe making it easy to follow for all the new viewers who were flocking in. :)
tmac81s 05-16-2011, 08:32 PM the thing that really bugged me was the whole thing in "Fonzie Moves Out", where he says he only lived above the C's for 6 years.
Generally, the 1974-84 show is set depicting 1955-65. There were some definate time shifts over the years, but for the most part, an episode would be taking place 18 or 19 years before it was airing in the real world.
Since "Fonzie Moves Out" is set in 1965, 6 years puts him moving in circa 1959.
The 1978 "Christmas Time" episode is shown depicting Christmas 1960. If Fonz moved in only one year before, that compresses almost three seasons into one year! (Fonzie Moves In" was the 1975 fall season opener, taking place around 1957.)
Fonz actually lived above the C's for 8 (or 9) years. My thought, is to blame a typo when they were printing the scripts :lol: :crazy:
YES, I KNOW I'M NITPICKY! lol :lol:
jsgtrman 05-20-2011, 04:23 AM Now that Hubb is back on Season 1, I'm noticing all kinds of interesting things. The style of the series you can definitely tell has the "Love, American Style" vibe to it (the series it was spawned from), more of a flim/ documentary feel to it than the next few seasons where it turns into more a traditional sitcom with laughs every other line. It's pretty neat to watch the early episodes again, and I also love seeing a ton of different background settings other than just "Arthur's" (before it was Arnold's, I guess? that's one interesting thing right there!), and the Cunningham interior home, as later seasons seemed to ALWAYS be at one place or the other.
In "Give the Band a Hand", some interesting things I noticed:
When Ralph (working as a bus boy!), drops plates, you here "Arnold" yell from the kitchen...and it's obviously not the Arnold we've come to know, more of a husky American voice.
This is one of the classic episodes imo, I love the scene where Howard scams the card sharks and takes them to school, being a BIGGER card shark himself... that was classic.
I'm also starting to notice Fonzie wearing the black leather jacket a little more, but still not exclusively yet at this time, as we still see the grey jacket.
On tonight's episode "Because She's There", there was some BIGGER things I noticed:
We hear Marion mention being Harry Malph's bridge partner. HARRY Malph? Ralph's Dad was later established as MICKEY Malph in later seasons, and he made several appearances as that character. And...we also see Ralph's mom, only time I remember seeing her. AND only time I can recall seeing the inside of Ralph OR Potsie's parents' homes (don't think we ever see Potsie's). Who knows WHY they changed Ralph's Dad's name, I guess they couldn't get the same guy to play the Dad in later seasons? Or maybe Ralph had 2 Dad's??? As someone pointed out, Ralph mentioned he got some items "from my Dad's store", and the MICKEY Malph we know was a dentist. So that must be it, Ralph had 2 Dad's somehow. :)
Also quite interesting, we see a PARTY at Ralph's house, down the basement...with Fonzie there also? Fonzie hanging out at Ralph's house? That's quite a different thing than we'd expect to see in later seasons.
Speaking of Fonzie, in these early episodes it appears he's the same age/ grade as the other guys (Richie, Ralph, & Potsie), since in "Fonzie drops In" he is in class with them. I always kinda felt Fonzie was several years older than the other guys, more like a big brother figure, so this seems/ feels a little strange to me. Does anybody offhand if Henry and Ron and Anson and Don were actually the same age in real life?
And Joanie...she sure does have the little kid "chipmunk" looks going on! :) I believe Marion called it that in an interview if I recall, "then she blossomed into a beaurtiful young woman". Very interesting to see Joanie as a little little girl, she was probably about 10 years old in reality at this time?
robyrob 05-20-2011, 08:41 AM sounds like you might be interested in the next Happy Days trivia game
YoliUSA 05-20-2011, 01:25 PM Speaking of Fonzie, in these early episodes it appears he's the same age/ grade as the other guys (Richie, Ralph, & Potsie), since in "Fonzie drops In" he is in class with them. I always kinda felt Fonzie was several years older than the other guys, more like a big brother figure, so this seems/ feels a little strange to me. Does anybody offhand if Henry and Ron and Anson and Don were actually the same age in real life?
In real life Henry is the oldest; Ron the youngest. At that time, if their birthdates listed on the web are correct, Henry was 29, Anson 25, Donny 21 and Ron was 20.
And Joanie...she sure does have the little kid "chipmunk" looks going on! :) I believe Marion called it that in an interview if I recall, "then she blossomed into a beaurtiful young woman". Very interesting to see Joanie as a little little girl, she was probably about 10 years old in reality at this time?
I read heard/read somewhere that filming for season 1 started on Nov-Dec of '73, so she was 13 at the time.
jsgtrman 05-23-2011, 04:38 AM Again with the house! :) In "Spunkless Spunky" (Feb. 78) , I found 3 things:
1) they show the scene in the doorway of the Cunningham house, for SOME reason the front of the WHITE house we've always seen across the street...well, that's now a BLUE house...and facing SIDEWAYS??? How could they have missed that? Someone moved the background scene? Unless they live at the end of a 2 way intersection, that doesn't work...and we know they don't. :)
2) then we see... Dr. Joyce Brothers as herself? I know she was around in the 70's, but since the show is supposed to be set in the 50's, is she that old, or was she even known of in the 50's???
3) ahem...the new next door neighbors, the Wilson's. Well, I guess that's Mr. Wilson at the door that caught spunky eating his flowers... the end credits show the girl that visited Fonzie's apartment after their dog as Mrs. Wilson I believe...she looks 20, and ready to go out with Fonzie. So...having an affair? I guess SUPPOSED to be the Wilson daughter maybe?, but not credited that way
Interesting stuff now when you've seen these before and can look for other things and say "Huh?".
And...the house setup is STILL physically impossible. Joanie runs out the kitchen door and to the left to go towards the front of the house, but earlier the car pulls up the driveway and the garage and kitchen door are on the RIGHT side of the house (where there's no ROOM for a kitchen anyway, btw...if you see how close the side of the house is in comparison with the front door!). So, Joanie should have been running into the BACK yard. That house thing always bugged me when watching as a kid, if you map it out on a piece of paper.... well, I can't see how everybody always just let that slide by. :)
mets82 05-31-2011, 10:09 PM Have you noticed that in the beginning of tonights episode, they didnt play Bill Haley and the Comets but the Happy Days theme song? They did this last week as well. I wonder why?
BigManMike 06-01-2011, 10:13 AM I don't know. I found last night's opening and closing on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhvWLdSiDJM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqs7Fc4Moes
jsgtrman 06-01-2011, 06:49 PM Yes, I noticed that also, was very weird. It's SUPPOSED to be "Rock Around The Clock", as was the following episode with Cheryl Ladd guest starring (Wow!!! She always looked great!). For ROTC, it seems they superimposed the later "Happy Days" theme song over the opening credits that usually go with "Rock Around The Clock" in these earlier episodes...who knows why???
NDHappyDaysFan 06-01-2011, 11:12 PM Yes, I noticed that also, was very weird. It's SUPPOSED to be "Rock Around The Clock", as was the following episode with Cheryl Ladd guest starring (Wow!!! She always looked great!). For ROTC, it seems they superimposed the later "Happy Days" theme song over the opening credits that usually go with "Rock Around The Clock" in these earlier episodes...who knows why???
I believe I have seen an earlier thread on this board where they said there was some conflict with the rights to the song when they released the second season DVD, so for the DVD they used a version of the Happy Days song instead of Rock Around the Clock.
So what that means is that HUB is showing some season 2 episodes from the DVD, but others aren't from the DVD as they have correct theme song. I don't know why they would show any episodes from the DVD, though.
jsgtrman 06-09-2011, 02:51 AM In tonight's "Howdy Doody" episode, when Richie and Potsie are in Arnold's, Fonzie is sitting in the booth next to them, giving them the idea to use Ralph as the Howdie Doody look-allike. This is the first and ONLY time I can recall ever seeing the green wall on the viewer's side of the arnold's booths. Usually that side is open (the side the viewers/ audience are watching from). THis is very cool how they often move the cameras around for different point of view angles in these earlier seasons, whereas in the later years we just became accustomoed to say 1/2 dozen set camera angles.
Also, in the "Get A Job" episode.... the blue chair that Richie and Leslie Charleson (aka Monica Quartermain from General Hospital! I THOUGHT that was her!)... was that the same one that's usually on the front porch of the Cunningham house? I'm betting it's the same prop.
Waterston_Fan 06-13-2011, 03:53 PM There is an episode in the 11th season where Marion is upset over J/R being gone...
Howard comes home thorugh the front door and they talk after a few minutes. She asks him to take out the trash and he sees the big Camper...
Now if he drove all the way up to the drive way, couldn't he have seen it?
If he stopped part way, I would think he could have seen that.
mets82 06-14-2011, 10:57 PM I dont know if I should put it here about edits and scenes that are cut out but on tonights Happy Days when Fonzie moves In, the part when Richie tells Mr. C that Fonzie is moving in and when Mr. C chokes Richie was cut out. Its too bad because that scene along with the rest of the episode is really funny.
jsgtrman 06-17-2011, 12:35 AM I noticed on "Fonzie Moves In"...of course, a different Grandma Nuzzbaum than we see in later seasons.
Also, the Nip It pinball is replaced by ANOTHER from the 70's (NOT the 50's when the show is set) as per Fonzie's request. If you re-watch the scene in Arnold's when Richie is talking to Fonzie about Grandma moving into the upstairs apartment, we see Fonzie playing the new pinball machine. Then, at the end of the scene, I believe Fonzie says something like "let's go!", and for SOME reason if you freeze the frame, you can notice the OLD Nip It pinball machine buttons (it has 4, rather than the usual 2) as Fonzie and Richie walk away. I wonder why the did the entire scene with the new machine, then the last few lines with the old machine there? Must have had to go back and re-shoot it maybe to fix something, and the NEW machine was probably already re-replaced with the OLD (Nip It) machine??? Of course, all future episodes will have Nip It in it again, I'm sure with no explanation...:)
Also, back on my "that damn house" soap opera... the apartment/ room that was an attic???? Who has something like this, especially in the 50's? Think about it, you have an ATTIC. OK, let's say some people even remodelled it as a spare room. Do you put a bathroom in there also? And whose attic has an outside stairway entrance, not a ladder/ hole in the ceiling? And...("that damn house"...) where exactly IS this attic/ room/ apartment in the house layout? Is it over the actual HOUSE, where most attics are, or as I always THOUGHT, was over the garage? And then there's the stairs...I guess they must enter between the garage and house to the LEFT of the garage, then wrap wround the house so the entrance somehow comes in on the RIGHT side of the apartment. Why is this apartment so small also, especially if it's over the entire house? In the earlier seasons, we see NO staricase between the house and garage, then suddenly...poof!
I'll add this to my "That Damn House!" thread! :) Just thought I'd put it here since this is the first episode we see Fonzie's attic/ apartment.
antman67 01-21-2013, 01:41 PM "it struck me where I've seen mother Kelp (Frances Bay) before. (Shes also in the "Missing episode" "So How Was Your Weekend?" "
Oops, sorry I confused MYSELF. That wasn't Mother Kelp Frances Bay played, it was Grandma Nusbaum! She made 2 appearances in the series I believe, the episode Fonzie and Chachi thought she was going senile, and then here in the Finale. But...still think it's the bread lady on Seinfeld, if someone can confirm that?
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Lillian Bronson as Mrs. Nussbaum (1902–1995)
antman67 01-21-2013, 01:49 PM What I am trying to decipher is the 1st time I hear Fonz speak on his Father was in season 2 episode 26 Happy Days A star is bored - Fonz says he had not seen his father since he was 12 years old.
Next time he mention him (not sure which episodes) he says he walked out on him when he was 6. He left him only a box with a key in it and that was it. He had to run over it a few times with his tricycle to get it open.
Next time he mentions his mother in Season 8 Episode 185 "Mother and Child Reunion", he says hadn't seen his mom since he was 6. What happened to his mom? He never actually says?
So we have different ages, then different parents, so I'm guessing he was raised by his grandmother and had absolutely no other family at all that he mentions? Anyone have anything 100% certain on his mother and father not just hear say.
70s show watcher 01-28-2013, 08:39 PM also in the welcome home ep from season 11 we see richie;s room but it looked nothning at like the room that we saw on a regular bisis in seasons 1 and 2
Prince Michael 01-29-2013, 03:29 AM How did Andrew grow up so fast on Family Ties and
how did Chrissy grow up so fast on Growing Pains ?
On Three's Company was it ever explained what happen to Chrissy Snow and why she never came back ?
the youngest daughter on Family Matters what happened to her ?
shall i go on.
Family Ties and Growing Pains weren't soap operas, but Andrew Keaton and Chrissy Seaver were examples of Soap Opera Rapid Aging Syndrome . When Andrew Keaton was a baby, there was nothing they could do with him except have the older characters carry him around while they said there lines . When they aged him a few years, he was able to carry on a conversation with the other characters, and he could be more entertaining . It was the same thing with Chrissy Seaver on Growing Pains .
The way I remember it, Chrissy Snow's mother got sick, so Chrissy went back home to take care of her and make sure she was all right . In real life, Suzanne Somers was hopelessly, permanently fired, so Chrissy had to be replaced .
In the case of Judy Winslow, it was the exact same thing that happened to Chuck Cunningham . She was dropped from the show, never to be heard from again .
Dr. Thong 03-10-2013, 03:03 PM Most long-running shows have inconsistencies over time. My guess is that new writers are brought in, who may or may not know the history of the show's storylines and characters.
And while you'd think that Garry Marshall, or others who'd been with the show for many years would remember every detail about what had happened but apparently they didn't.
Most of the inconsistencies I can just shrug off, but to eliminate a character like Chuck wholesale and pretend as though he never existed?
That's a stretch for me.
Race's Girl 02-16-2026, 09:29 AM Howard's niece is K.C., not Casey. I don't think it was ever explained what happened to her.
Maybe she and Flip ran away and got married
Dr. Thong 02-16-2026, 08:21 PM http://t.imgbox.com/abxrJlDw.jpg (http://imgbox.com/abxrJlDw) http://t.imgbox.com/abdvdDRF.jpg (http://imgbox.com/abdvdDRF)
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Lillian Bronson as Mrs. Nussbaum (1902–1995)
Yes, Lillian Bronson was the original Grandma Nussbaum in 1975, with Frances Bay taking over the role in 1982.
Dr. Thong 02-16-2026, 08:30 PM You know I wonder why the writers were all over the place towards the end of the series. I mean for a show that was that popular, Im surprised that the writers just went all over the place the last few seasons based on the posts above.
Most shows have a good run of 3-5 years if they're lucky.
By the time season 11 rolled around, Happy Days was running on fumes. They'd exhausted storyline potential, were dealing with weak replacement and side characters, and Henry Winkler was pushing 40 in real life.
I don't care how good the writers may have been, there are only so many stories they could come up with for this group of characters.
I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, Happy Days should have ended when Ron Howard and Donny Most left. It was never the same after they left.
I understand that actors want to work and that they want/need the show to go on, but it watered down what was once a great show.
CJMD03 03-07-2026, 08:17 PM What’s weird is Laverne and Shirley were in the late 1967 or 1968 in their final year, but HD was still in about 1964 in its final year and it ran one season longer than LandS.
CJMD03 03-07-2026, 08:24 PM Oh, and Joanie and Jenny’s hairstyles and Pinky and Leather singing hard rock. lol
Dr. Thong 03-09-2026, 05:06 PM Oh, and Joanie and Jenny’s hairstyles and Pinky and Leather singing hard rock. lol
Pinky never sang.
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