Are there any forums where true crime cases are discussed other than Websleuths? I find their moderating tactics a bit too Nazified for my tastes.

There is a case occurring in the news right now where it is rather obvious a family member was involved, so I posted my thoughts and theory about the case. My post was deleted because the admin says "we do not accuse family members here." Uh, well I hate to break it to them, but if family members or friends can never be discussed, that means over 80% of all murder cases cannot be discussed since murders and abductions are perpetrated by family and friends the vast majority of the time. It's stupid logic on their part. Is WS a support forum or is it a forum for objectively discussing cases? It seems to me it is more of a support forum. I have no problem with that, but they need to change the name from WebSleuths to "Web Support Of Crime Victims." It is not an objective forum where people can express opinions, and if one can't express an opinion, then why post?

At least this forum allows people to discuss their thoughts on what really happened. The problem is this forum is dead and I would like to know if there are active alternatives to WS.

I left WS a few years ago for much the same reason. Actually, they accuse whomever they damn well please and they let it slide when it suits them. Besides, there are too many people there who swallow conspiracy theories hook, line and sinker for my liking.

I prefer porchlight international. It may not be perfect and it may not be exactly what you're looking for, but it's at least friendly.

Here's another similar to websleuths:

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/index.php?

Websleuths seem like a strange group to me. They get very emotional. There is also a large contingent who like to say "I can't believe this could happen" and get lathered up about every second crime that gets reported. At some point they have to stop being surprised.

Websleuths seem like a strange group to me. They get very emotional. There is also a large contingent who like to say "I can't believe this could happen" and get lathered up about every second crime that gets reported. At some point they have to stop being surprised.

Exactly. They come across to me as a bunch of old women who post during commercial breaks of Oprah or Days of Our Lives. Every post is a "I hope they catch the killer" or "I hope they find the girl." Yes, we all hope that, but it's boring seeing 1000 posts stating the obvious. I see no point in any online forum if debate isn't allowed. WS happens to be one of those forums.

I'm going to check out the one CD posted.

I never joined WS because I have a yahoo email and they require a (dangit... forgot what it's called) anyway, they require one that's attached to your internet service like @ comcast.net or @ charter.net. Without that, I think you have to plead your case, be reviewed, and have a current WS member vouch for you. At least that's the way it was a couple years ago..

I do read there occasionally, but usually just to see if they've got more info on current cases than major news outlets are providing.

This may fast track me to hellfire and damnation but the hand wringing of all the Nancy Grace acolytes on websleuths now is something to behold.

This may fast track me to hellfire and damnation but the hand wringing of all the Nancy Grace acolytes on websleuths now is something to behold.

If it fast tracks you, then it put me on the bullet train because I laughed out loud when I read it.:D I'm not surprised at all by the hand wringing and whatnot. Over there the sun rises and sets on Nancy Grace's opinion of everything.

Exactly. They come across to me as a bunch of old women who post during commercial breaks of Oprah or Days of Our Lives. Every post is a "I hope they catch the killer" or "I hope they find the girl." Yes, we all hope that, but it's boring seeing 1000 posts stating the obvious. I see no point in any online forum if debate isn't allowed. WS happens to be one of those forums.

Well each case, humans are involved keep in mind. If it were your family member you'd be saying you cant believe it, and so on. And maybe it is old women who care about their own children/grandchildren but it doesn't mean they watch crap t.v. I truly hope you or your loved one never has to be "bored" like that, although i get your point about the posts being redundant. Perhaps you'd do better to read a true crime book then instead of chat boards.

I'm not a member, but I've found some very good information on Websleuths before.

I do have to agree that there are some loonies in there, though. And the not blaming family is plain silly; you can't be a "sleuth" in any capacity if you can't investigate all angles.

Generally, though, the people seem very kindhearted and often give helpful articles or theories into cases. I'd rather have people thinking about crime, hoping it will be solved, or trying to offer fresh perspectives than turning a blind eye to crime and issues.

whoever runs websleuths is a worshipper of Hitler. Period. Every once in a while, I will lurk on there and you can get some interesting information about a wide array of cases, but like half of the people that have ever posted there have been banned.

Can someone help me understand why on WS they close their threads and move to another?

Might be a dumb question but there has to be a good reason for it.

I found out because I was looking at the McStay family mystery and there's like 20 threads!

Is it because they dont want people editing their own posts every so often, thanks in advance, maybe it's something stupid I am just not seeing

Can someone help me understand why on WS they close their threads and move to another?

Might be a dumb question but there has to be a good reason for it.

I found out because I was looking at the McStay family mystery and there's like 20 threads!

Is it because they dont want people editing their own posts every so often, thanks in advance, maybe it's something stupid I am just not seeing

Most boards limit each thread to x amount of posts if there isn't a limitation set by the board program itself. After awhile, the long threads get cumbersome data-wise and can slow down searches and load times (depending on the forum program). Quite a few boards I've been on have such limits.

I stopped posting there when it became "weird" or "mean" if you didn't take it seriously when someone mentioned the proliferation of human trafficking as a possible solution to a case. They also tend to be very black/white whereas I can and tend to see gray in situations. I really wish there was a good alternative to WS with more level-headed moderation. I think that site could do a lot more good than it currently does but the atmosphere isn't exactly the most friendly and welcoming for the average person.

www.justicequest.net

The're great. Much better than WS.

I post on there, but I don't frequent it too much anymore, except for the Lyle Stevik board. I don't post on other threads unless I really have anything to contribute.

whoever runs websleuths is a worshipper of Hitler. Period. Every once in a while, I will lurk on there and you can get some interesting information about a wide array of cases, but like half of the people that have ever posted there have been banned.

LOL..so true!

I agree with the Nazified comment. If you say something they don't like on Websleuths they ban you!

Bunch of commies!

I believe one of the former members had to temporarily close down one of the threads on the Lyle Stevik board. I was disappointed - not because she closed the thread, but because of the petty squabbling between a few posters that caused her to do so.

I supported that decision, even though it hindered our opportunities to discuss the case.

This may fast track me to hellfire and damnation but the hand wringing of all the Nancy Grace acolytes on websleuths now is something to behold.

:lol:

WS reminds me of the darkest days of our Darlie Routier and Jeff MacDonald threads.

Was doing research on another case and up pops a WS thread about women who've killed their husbands. More than one individual hailed Betty Broderick as a "hero".

That place is like a crazies convention.

Was doing research on another case and up pops a WS thread about women who've killed their husbands. More than one individual hailed Betty Broderick as a "hero".

That place is like a crazies convention.

I gave up on that site due the sheer volume of posts about 99% really didn't have any useful information.

I gave up on that site due the sheer volume of posts about 99% really didn't have any useful information.

I love how someone will post the obvious "So tragic. I can't believe this world. Hoping they catch the sick person who did this" and about 5 others "thank" them for the post.

I love how someone will post the obvious "So tragic. I can't believe this world. Hoping they catch the sick person who did this" and about 5 others "thank" them for the post.
I would like to thank you for this useful post

Are there any forums where true crime cases are discussed other than Websleuths? I find their moderating tactics a bit too Nazified for my tastes.

There is a case occurring in the news right now where it is rather obvious a family member was involved, so I posted my thoughts and theory about the case. My post was deleted because the admin says "we do not accuse family members here." Uh, well I hate to break it to them, but if family members or friends can never be discussed, that means over 80% of all murder cases cannot be discussed since murders and abductions are perpetrated by family and friends the vast majority of the time. It's stupid logic on their part. ..............

I have heard that websleuths just about bans anyone who dares blame an intruder and refuses to blame the Ramsey family in regards to the Jonbenet Ramsey case.

Are there any forums where true crime cases are discussed other than Websleuths? I find their moderating tactics a bit too Nazified for my tastes.

There is a case occurring in the news right now where it is rather obvious a family member was involved, so I posted my thoughts and theory about the case. My post was deleted because the admin says "we do not accuse family members here." Uh, well I hate to break it to them, but if family members or friends can never be discussed, that means over 80% of all murder cases cannot be discussed since murders and abductions are perpetrated by family and friends the vast majority of the time. It's stupid logic on their part. Is WS a support forum or is it a forum for objectively discussing cases? It seems to me it is more of a support forum. I have no problem with that, but they need to change the name from WebSleuths to "Web Support Of Crime Victims." It is not an objective forum where people can express opinions, and if one can't express an opinion, then why post?

At least this forum allows people to discuss their thoughts on what really happened. The problem is this forum is dead and I would like to know if there are active alternatives to WS.

Thiussat, below is a quote about online bullying that applies to the behavior on sites like Websleuths and ScaredMonkeys and many of the others where the members all like to gang up on the new guy.

"What is mobbing?
The word bullying is used to describe a repeated pattern of negative intrusive violational behaviour against one or more targets and comprises constant trivial nit-picking criticism, refusal to value and acknowledge, undermining, discrediting and a host of other behaviours which are defined on my page What is bullying?

................where a target is selected and bullied (mobbed) by a group of people rather than by one individual. However, every group has a ringleader. If this ringleader is an extrovert it will be obvious who is coercing group members into mobbing the selected target. If the ringleader is an introvert type, he or she is likely to be in the background coercing and manipulating group members into mobbing the selected target; introvert ringleaders are much more dangerous than extrovert ringleaders.

In a mobbing situation, the ringleader incites supporters, cohorts, copycats and unenlightened, inexperienced, immature or emotionally needy individuals with poor values to engage in adversarial interaction with the selected target. The ringleader, or chief bully, gains gratification from encouraging others to engage in adversarial interaction with the target. Many people use the word "mobbing" to describe this pack attack by many on one individual. Once mobbing is underway the chief bully foments the mobbing into mutually assured destruction, from which the chief bully gains intense gratification - this is a feature of people with psychopathic personality.

One aspect of psychopathic bullies is that they home in on Wannabe types - non-psychopathic lesser bullies - and then empower these individuals to gain the positions of power and authority they crave. Once installed, the Wannabe's lack of competence makes them dependent on the chief psychopath, which means they become unwitting but willing compliant puppets. They also make perfect corporate clones and drones. A characteristic of the Wannabe is that as well as lacking all the competencies necessary for their position, they also lack the intellect to understand the nature and manner of their compliant subservience.

Throughout the mobbing experience, the target is deceived into fighting, blaming and trying to hold accountable the minor bullies of the mobbing group rather than the chief bully.

.......The chief bullies appear so charming and plausible to naive, unenlightened and inexperienced people - usually those who haven't experienced bullying themselves. Psychopathic chief bullies are very likely to have everyone in human resources and management in their pocket, who are then manipulated into further mobbing, victimising and persecuting the target.

The golden rule when tackling a mobbing situation is, I believe, to identify and focus exclusively on the chief bully, and concentrate on holding this ringleader accountable. Expect an immediate increase in mobbing activities, and a rapidly-expanding web of deceit to be concocted against you.
Maybe they thought I knew too much when they kicked me out.

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Franklin, how about that other webbsleuths site (spelled with two Bs) you mentioned regarding the Jonbenet Ramsey murder and the Madeline Pulver collar bomb case?

Are they an active board, a defunct site, an archive site?

I have debated signing up for WS for a while, but am a little disturbed by the TOS' strong wording.

"If you are unable to register without using an anonymous proxy for some legitimate reason that we quite frankly cannot fathom but may very well exist, please contact us via email and we'll work with you."

"On the other hand, if you're a foul mouthed pathological basket case that keeps trying proxy after proxy thinking you will trick us, get a life. We appreciate expanding our proxy block list with your generous assistance, but please, seek professional help. Soon."

I can understand having issues with anonymous people on the internet, but I find these statements to lack class. Surely there are much more respectful ways to express terms of service.

I can't even fathom what Websleuths is trying to get across there. Sounds like someone was trying to sound impressive with their phrasing but it fell flat.

I can't even fathom what Websleuths is trying to get across there. Sounds like someone was trying to sound impressive with their phrasing but it fell flat.
Yes, instead that comes off as extremely hostile. I think I will continue to lurk, but am extremely hesitant to join if that's the attitude of the webmasters on there.

New one, done with WS as it is now. Used to be a good place to debate lots of varied theories. Now each case varies in its "victim friendliness" depending on what the group consensus and those who dissent face time outs for calling the hive mentality what it is.

I am following a new one lately. It appears to be encouraging actual debate of alternate theories and not just the ones espoused by management or whoever yells the loudest. No mobbing allowed. So far so good, hoping their membership grows so more voices are added to the discussion.

I would like to thank you for this useful post

:lol:

i tend to like webslueths but im a newbie there so i cant really say much yet. i did however notice a lot of banned members....sorta makes me scared to post anything serious

New one, done with WS as it is now. Used to be a good place to debate lots of varied theories. Now each case varies in its "victim friendliness" depending on what the group consensus and those who dissent face time outs for calling the hive mentality what it is.

I am following a new one lately. It appears to be encouraging actual debate of alternate theories and not just the ones espoused by management or whoever yells the loudest. No mobbing allowed. So far so good, hoping their membership grows so more voices are added to the discussion.

What site would that be? can you PM it?

I hope this doesn't get me banned here too, but I joined websleuths three or four days ago because I was interested in a certain local case. I was posting, contributing, and yes, getting a billion "thank yous" for whatever reason. There was one guy on the board who nobody ever replied to because he wrote without any punctuation or capitalization - nobody was understanding any of his comments. I posted a polite reply to him about this, and yes, I got "thank yous" and the indecipherable poster wrote me "sorry," seemed sincere. Onwards.

No, not onwards, my post was deleted by the moderator for being "rude." So I went back on and explained what happened, haha, and to say goodbye forever. That post was also deleted. Having fun, I posted it again. And it was deleted again and I was put on a time out. Yes, a time out like for a four year old. I am done with websleuths now after just three days. It's a terrible site with awful contributors and cranky moderators. The case I was looking at was up to 14 pages, and everyone was still asking the same basic questions over and over again, or just marching on with confused information. Absolutely awful. I did some web sleuthing on my own about the moderator who laid down the time out hammer on me, and she's a woman in her 50's in Indiana. Sorry ladies, but...enough said.

I like sitcoms! You guys rule. :wave:

I really don't get that whole "thanking" thing. Do they have to "thank" a certain number of people or they get banned?

I hope this doesn't get me banned here too, but I joined websleuths three or four days ago because I was interested in a certain local case. I was posting, contributing, and yes, getting a billion "thank yous" for whatever reason. There was one guy on the board who nobody ever replied to because he wrote without any punctuation or capitalization - nobody was understanding any of his comments. I posted a polite reply to him about this, and yes, I got "thank yous" and the indecipherable poster wrote me "sorry," seemed sincere. Onwards.

No, not onwards, my post was deleted by the moderator for being "rude." So I went back on and explained what happened, haha, and to say goodbye forever. That post was also deleted. Having fun, I posted it again. And it was deleted again and I was put on a time out. Yes, a time out like for a four year old. I am done with websleuths now after just three days. It's a terrible site with awful contributors and cranky moderators. The case I was looking at was up to 14 pages, and everyone was still asking the same basic questions over and over again, or just marching on with confused information. Absolutely awful. I did some web sleuthing on my own about the moderator who laid down the time out hammer on me, and she's a woman in her 50's in Indiana. Sorry ladies, but...enough said.

I like sitcoms! You guys rule. :wave:

Welcome. I'm sure you will find this a much more tolerant, friendlier and informative place.

I hear you about the billion "thank you's". Not only that, but they have to list all of the usernames of the people that thanked the poster. So in cases where there is like 100 "thank you's", it can take up half the screen.

It seems like the vast majority of posts over there are "bumping for...." and "missing 20 years today" type posts that don't really contribute anything to a forum.

I visit WS often, but increasingly for less and less time. There can be some excellent analysis and discussion there, but too much of it is well meaning but annoying old housewives with trite one sentence posts, the kind of people who watch Nancy Grace. It is true that they lean too much toward support and not enough at clear eyed rational analysis. Just because a post doesnt have ten emoticons and repeat how sad blahblah is and how blank should be found soon, etc.. doesnt mean that poster lacks heart or respect. It should go without saying, the sadness of these cases. A good "sleuth" cant get too bogged down in emotion and sentimentality.

Plus, it is crazy how they forbid certain, competing true crime sites from being mentioned, e.g. blink on crime -- the mods immediately delete any post that links to the site. Which is annoying in some colder cases such as Jennifer Kesse's where the ONLY new information comes from the investigators on that site.

www.justicequest.net

The're great. Much better than WS.

Agreed. I like how they even have a whole subforum on there dedicated to bashing WS. :lol:

Agreed. I like how they even have a whole subforum on there dedicated to bashing WS. :lol:

tighthead thanks you for this post

Watch out. The JQ mods are just as fascistic as the ones at Websleuths. And the posts are often even more vapid. Google around and you'll quickly find some examples.

https://www.facebook.com/afterdarkradioshow

I'm the new admin at this radio show's page and plan on sharing lots of mysteries and true crime links. Feel free to join us!

I used to lurk over at Websleuths, checking out the Anna Christian Waters threads, etc. People over there just got too crazy and would only accept one theory on what happened to Anna, and if you didn't accept that, you were out of luck.

too much of it is well meaning but annoying old housewives with trite one sentence posts, the kind of people who watch Nancy Grace.

You nailed it. And they get that sense of heightened self worth when they nail down a case like Grateful Doe. Cheers to us!

That, coupled with the fact the powers that be, decided I wasn't allowed to join because I didn't have a secured e-mail address. I had a true crime website along with a partner, she tried to get me into Websleuths, as a member she vouched for me, etc, but I still wasn't deemed fit Websleuth material. Perhaps there is a support group for people like me, lol.

That, coupled with the fact the powers that be, decided I wasn't allowed to join because I didn't have a secured e-mail address. I had a true crime website along with a partner, she tried to get me into Websleuths, as a member she vouched for me, etc, but I still wasn't deemed fit Websleuth material. Perhaps there is a support group for people like me, lol.
The email address thing is nuts. I tried to join and that annoyed me. I wasn't about to get one of their "secured" email addresses just so I could join. Also, the language used in the registration deeply bothered me, along with reports on other websites about the creator/owner.

I think WS has plenty of good members and well-intentioned posters. And I do still lurk and read their threads on occasion. However, the policies and some of the posters bother me so much I'm glad I didn't join. Thiussat mentioned one of the inane policies in his original post. Others I've seen include reprimands for silly reasons. The Springfield Three board got so besieged with arguments that it's been closed. That being said, I'll still with lurking.

I joined a year ago and only wrote 12 posts. I rarely log in. I'm surprised that people with Yahoo e-mails haven't been able to join. I have an AOL e-mail and was accepted. Usually if a website doesn't accept Yahoo users, they also won't accept AOL users. But, trust me, you're not missing much. At least you can still read the messages even if you can't post.

Here's another similar to websleuths:

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigations.com/index.php?

Okay I browsed said website and I was impressed enough to try to join, but they wouldn't let me. Anyone know what's going on?

I started this thread almost four years ago, but I think I may have found a decent place to discuss newer cases. Do any of you Reddit? There is a subreddit dedicated to "unresolved mysteries." I have only posted once, but it looks to be pretty busy. Also, they make it clear they don't want vapid posts (which would eliminate 90% of the Websleuth posts).

In any case, here's the link to that subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries

And I'll post the rules below (for any of you too lazy to click a link):

SUB RULES:

No Murder / Disappearance cases from the past year. Certain mysteries may be allowed with prior mod team permission

No memes, reaction .gifs, or similar pointless chaff

No Witch Hunts. The mod team will shut them down immediately, and you'll be banned.

No hateful, racist or deliberately inflammatory comments

Please tag submissions with images of nudity or gore as NSFW. Indecent images of under 18s are against the rules and will be removed (deceased / nude).

Posting


Must contain a link to a relevant article

Must give a written overview of the mystery in the post text. (Copy & pasting a paragraph from the article to summarise the mystery is fine)

Should preferably provide one or two discussion points.

Commenting

Freely share your theories and answers to these mysteries. Speculate about what might have happened. Discuss the possibilities, the impossibilities, the probabilities, and the improbabilities surrounding each case and each theory.

All genuinely-held opinions — i.e. non-troll — are valid here, therefore please be respectful when commenting even if you disagree with someone.

I like that they don't want pointless "thank you" or emoticon spamming posts. I also like that they allow all opinions (except for witch hunting).

Downside: You can't talk about cases unless they are at least a year old (probably so not to hinder an active investigation).

This site is the best one. It's like WS only there isn't over moderation. It was started by one of the previous owners. Sue who was the good guy in the lawsuit: it's called crimewatchers.net

I tried to upload the full depositions of Sue and Tricia which are in PDF files, but Tricia's is too long.

I stopped by to answer the question here, but I think I'll stick around for awhile. TV shows are cool to talk about.

I started this thread almost four years ago, but I think I may have found a decent place to discuss newer cases. Do any of you Reddit? There is a subreddit dedicated to "unresolved mysteries." I have only posted once, but it looks to be pretty busy. Also, they make it clear they don't want vapid posts (which would eliminate 90% of the Websleuth posts).

In any case, here's the link to that subreddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries

And I'll post the rules below (for any of you too lazy to click a link):


I'm active in the subreddit. Is that you posting all those UM cases? ;)

I'm active in the subreddit. Is that you posting all those UM cases? ;)

What's subreddit? And no. :wave:

What's subreddit? And no. :wave:
Oh, sorry, my comment was directed at Thiussat

I'm referring to the subreddit he linked above: http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries

:)

Oh, sorry, my comment was directed at Thiussat

I'm referring to the subreddit he linked above: http://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries

:)

:doh: Maybe someday I'll learn to read. :crazy:

okay, I laughed quite a bit at this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/368jfe/good_threads_on_websleuths/

Some interesting comments there. Maybe I'll check on the Brandon Swanson thread on Websleuths, that's one case I posted about on the Charley Project thread.

Also, I read a tiny bit about the Elfrieda Knaak mystery and am already intrigued. Will have to read more.

This thread inspired me to start a forum. I hope you'll stop by to get it going. It is truecrimeforum dot proboards dot com.

I also get tired of the endless "We need a fresh pair of eyes to look at this case." Okay, so maybe that's true, but seeing it in every thread gets nauseating after awhile.

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^ Nonsense. This forum is far more tame and civil than the other true crime discussion forums out there.

^ You're right. Much better. I was just being butthurt and lashing out.

^ As much as I love this site, it's starting to look very similar to WS.


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Lmao it isn't. You know I was in my feels yesterday.

I've been a Websleuths member for about 10 years now and have never had any real problems, but I've seen some of the things everyone is talking about.

And may God help you if you dare to suggest to them that Johnny Gosch wasn't abducted by a pedophile ring that goes all the way to the top of the U.S. government or that he didn't randomly visit his mother's apartment in the middle of the night years later. And NEVER suggest that Noreen may be in any way delusional or just seeing what she wants to see.

Even though that's all 100% true. I feel so bad for her, but she needs help. Even if everything she says is fact she needs help.

I used to love WS. Trisha killed it and made it a bad and unhelpful place.

Even though that's all 100% true. I feel so bad for her, but she needs help. Even if everything she says is fact she needs help.

I used to love WS. Trisha killed it and made it a bad and unhelpful place.

Welcome! :wave: We're happy to have you with us!

I joined WS years ago with my yahoo email. No issues with it.

Is it just me or is it at a seriously reduced volume of posts now?

I've been a Websleuths member for about 10 years now and have never had any real problems, but I've seen some of the things everyone is talking about.

And may God help you if you dare to suggest to them that Johnny Gosch wasn't abducted by a pedophile ring that goes all the way to the top of the U.S. government or that he didn't randomly visit his mother's apartment in the middle of the night years later. And NEVER suggest that Noreen may be in any way delusional or just seeing what she wants to see.

I do feel sorry for Noreen. I think that she just could not accept that her son just disappeared, and was likely killed within a couple of days of his abduction. All the bizarre conspiracy theories and what not, led to a divorce from her husband, who has gone on record saying he does not believe most of what Noreen has said.

The kidnapped boys photo, in particular, was investigated in 1979, three years before Gosch went missing, and it was found to be a harmless contest between three boys in Florida. Yet Noreen has insisted for two decades that her son is one of the boys. I don't believe the person who visited her in 1997 was Johnny. It was most likely someone taking advantage of her.

Don't try posting anything to the Unresolved Mysteries Reddit. I have posted a few things and they always get removed.

I have been reading on websleuth's off and on for long time. I do know there was some argument among admins early on and some left and made their own groups. There very picky about what kind of e-mail account they except. very strange. Because the message board has been mentioned on tv a few times they have there noses in the air. There is always one ready for an argument if you know more then them. They hate podcast wont let you post them. Even if the cop from the case is talking on it. They falsely accuse folk of gossip and wont let them post the truth., They want to look like thy know all and they don't. So the call you gossip and eras thing to make you look bad. They think the whole world with a missing kid wants to talk to them. I have seen post were they complied about a family who actually had child go missing and then be found dead. When the family was upset they complained about them on the group. The ignore a lot cases they list on there. Only pick the ones they want to talk on. Only certain cases matter to them. The baby Gabriel case has lead do they care nope. A small portion of the folks are nice. just a bunch of old house wives mostly some men who think there only ones know anything. It is not worth the time.

I really wish I had found this site and thread in 2023. I could have avoided some pitfalls. I had no idea how off the wall the moderaters can be. The cyberbullying on Reddit is intense. People are allowed to post some really twisted things. The unsolved mysteries and unresolved mysteries threads are pretty hostile now. I posted some facts on events and they were yanked. If you ask the mods why it is another violation and you get banned. On one of the other sites a moderator left a question up but made a long post about how my lack of comprehension and how I wasn't posting nicely. I reread my post and had a young friend in their 20s read it. Neither of us found anything discourteous or unclear. I PMed the folks n charge and tried to work it out. I was basically told I was rude and stupid and go back to the public forum. So I did, and asked them to specify what I had done wrong. This caused a tizzy with numerous pro and some con comments. Everything was deleted as if it never happened and I was banned from the thread for being disruptive. The mod followed me to another thread and deleted my post including photos and diagrams. They then proceeded to remove other factual informative posts and comments o the thread back 10+ years. That hissy fit wrecked that thread. There are some decent intelligent people on Reddit and Websleuths but the are outnumbered by the loudmouths and commie moderators.

Based on my experience of the last two years I recommend lurking as a nonmember and gleaning information. If you really need to contact someone look for them on a friendlier forum like this one.
Thanks for the information on other true crime sites.

I really wish I had found this site and thread in 2023. I could have avoided some pitfalls. I had no idea how off the wall the moderaters can be. The cyberbullying on Reddit is intense. People are allowed to post some really twisted things. The unsolved mysteries and unresolved mysteries threads are pretty hostile now. I posted some facts on events and they were yanked. If you ask the mods why it is another violation and you get banned. On one of the other sites a moderator left a question up but made a long post about how my lack of comprehension and how I wasn't posting nicely. I reread my post and had a young friend in their 20s read it. Neither of us found anything discourteous or unclear. I PMed the folks n charge and tried to work it out. I was basically told I was rude and stupid and go back to the public forum. So I did, and asked them to specify what I had done wrong. This caused a tizzy with numerous pro and some con comments. Everything was deleted as if it never happened and I was banned from the thread for being disruptive. The mod followed me to another thread and deleted my post including photos and diagrams. They then proceeded to remove other factual informative posts and comments o the thread back 10+ years. That hissy fit wrecked that thread. There are some decent intelligent people on Reddit and Websleuths but the are outnumbered by the loudmouths and commie moderators.

Based on my experience of the last two years I recommend lurking as a nonmember and gleaning information. If you really need to contact someone look for them on a friendlier forum like this one.
Thanks for the information on other true crime sites.

Agree with all of this. Its gotten worse over time. Older threads are often readable for information, newer threads read like an echo chamber where NPCs endlessly re-post the same line of thinking and any dissenting opinion is removed. Free and open academic inquiry is nowhere to be found. We are very fortunate to have the discussions we have here.

I have found and accessed or joined the following sites recommended by posters. Truecrimeforum.proboards.com, crimewatchers.net, justicequest.net. the other sites I can't pull up at all or the links provided are broken and connect to something else entirely. I recently read where a woman running a wildlife shelter was bullied on line until she broke and took her own life. Anyone working any job needs to take breaks. The only thing worse than hate they spew is moderaters who defend their right to free speech. This site has its ups and downs. But it is really decent. Thats because the people are decent. Sometimes to the point they can't think like a criminal or a rotten person. And we are all susceptible to tunnel vision. Someone is going to get a belly laugh at my expense but I don't mind. My first post online said "this case needs a new set of eyes!".