View Full Version : Which "On The Bubble-Certain Cancelation" Show would you like to see picked up???


R.jsheedy
04-18-2011, 05:50 PM
I want $#*! My Dad Says, Mr. Sunshine and Breaking In... Which do you want....

SOURCE:http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2011/04/16/bubble-watch-chuck-suspect-behavior-happy-endings-body-of-proof-and-of-course-fringe-too-soon-edition/89725?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29

70s show watcher
04-18-2011, 06:28 PM
better with you

tbswatcher
04-18-2011, 07:33 PM
I agree Better With You needs to continue. Joanna Garcia is great in this show just like she was in Reba.

yankeesrj12
04-19-2011, 01:06 PM
Mad Love, Happy Endings, and Better with You

If any of them are cancelled, I won't care, but it'd be nice to see one of them come back. In the end, I think Happy Endings will be renewed because it got off to a solid start. I don't see how its "on the bubble" already. :confused:

70s show watcher
04-19-2011, 06:58 PM
Mad Love, Happy Endings, and Better with You

If any of them are cancelled, I won't care, but it'd be nice to see one of them come back. In the end, I think Happy Endings will be renewed because it got off to a solid start. I don't see how its "on the bubble" already. :confused:i really like mad love too i just didnt vote for it because it wasant on the poll

70s show watcher
04-19-2011, 07:01 PM
never mind i should say i didnt see it on the poll and foud it a minute ago

R.jsheedy
04-20-2011, 12:01 AM
Heres my take on everything on the list...

Perfect Couples, Outsourced and Paul Reiser Show all have to go from NBC, they have to cancel them all. Nobody liked Perfect Couples, Paul Reiser was a flop from the begining, and outsourced has been doing awful at 10:30... cancell them all.

Traffic Lights has been doing worse than Running Wilde was diong, Traffic lights has to go too...

Keep braking in around to air at the last 30 mintues at 9:30 wednesday night after X factor like Breaking In did this year with the last 30 Mintues of Idol... I say just keep it.

Mr. Sushine got screwed really bad. It had about 7 out of 9 episodes airing agenst the last 30 mintues of idol, with only about 4 of them with a Modern Family lead in. Raitings where good in the begining, but once it lost a all new modern family lead in, and going face to face with idol, it suffered real bad. Renew it for a second chance at life because it got so screwed this time around.

Better with You is a fantastic show, and its really funny. But it's raitings after the middle havn't been so good, so unless airing after Dancing with the Stars brings it's wednesday night ratings up, it would have to go.

Happy Endings is too soon to call on, but based on its Wednesday at 10 raitings last wednesday, dosn't seem it would get better, and raitings always go down after it's premire, so this might end up getting cancelled.

$#*! My Dad Says had a better chance at coming back than Mad Love. Even tough $#*! may have lost 35% of its Big Bang lead in or whatever, Rules isn't doing much better in the timeslot, and Mad Love is the weakest link on monday nights, doing about 50 times worst than Rules was in that slot, so my call is that Mad Love gets canned, and 50/50 $#*! could come back...

RECALL...
Cancelled:Mad Love, Perfect Couples, Outsourced, Paul Reiser Show and Traffic Lights
Renewed: Mr. Sunshine and Breaking In.....
Toss Up: Better with You, Happy Endings and $#*! My Dad Says.

ryan423
04-20-2011, 12:53 AM
umm... CHUCK.

'nugh said

yankeesrj12
04-20-2011, 12:56 AM
Mr. Sunshine should be cancelled. The ratings were awful (and lower than Better with You) so there is no way it should come back.

R.jsheedy
04-20-2011, 01:04 PM
Mr. Sunshine should be cancelled. The ratings were awful (and lower than Better with You) so there is no way it should come back.

First, since it's premier it was up agenst the last half hour of American Idol,most of the time without a modern family lead in, and most of the time the only new show on Wednesday Nights. Give it, that it's raitings might be worse than Better with You's, it was screwed out of a lead in audience and was up agents th last half hour of Idol for 7 out of 9 episodes. ABC has a history of renewing lower rating first run shows, and i think Mr. Sunshine should get a second chance from the network. It's not like it's been on all season since the fall like Better with You...

skymarshallwinky
04-20-2011, 04:12 PM
Traffic Light is the only show in the poll that regularly makes me laugh. It's a shame that it was unleashed in a season that had approximately 200 other "couples in varying stages of relationships" sitcoms.

yankeesrj12
04-20-2011, 08:02 PM
First, since it's premier it was up agenst the last half hour of American Idol,most of the time without a modern family lead in, and most of the time the only new show on Wednesday Nights. Give it, that it's raitings might be worse than Better with You's, it was screwed out of a lead in audience and was up agents th last half hour of Idol for 7 out of 9 episodes. ABC has a history of renewing lower rating first run shows, and i think Mr. Sunshine should get a second chance from the network. It's not like it's been on all season since the fall like Better with You...
Cougar Town also had to air against American Idol and did just fine. Yes, Mr. Sunshine is a new comedy, but how can you defend a 1.4 demo? A 1.4 on any network is sudden cancellation.

wise3
04-20-2011, 09:19 PM
Chuck

R.jsheedy
04-21-2011, 02:00 PM
Cougar Town also had to air against American Idol and did just fine. Yes, Mr. Sunshine is a new comedy, but how can you defend a 1.4 demo? A 1.4 on any network is sudden cancellation.

Cougar Town is not up agenst Idol, it's up agenst FOX's Breaking In.....

yankeesrj12
04-21-2011, 03:44 PM
Cougar Town is not up agenst Idol, it's up agenst FOX's Breaking In.....
I said HAD to air against American Idol before...


January 20th:
Modern Family - 4.6 demo
Cougar Town - 2.4 demo

American Idol - 9.7 demo

January 27th:
Modern Family (R) - 2.6 demo
Cougar Town - 2.0 demo

American Idol - 9.2 demo

Basically, Cougar Town held its own with a 2.0 demo, against American Idol and with a Modern Family repeat lead in. Mr. Sunshine had the same situation one time (with a lower American Idol - 7.7 demo and a higher Modern Family - 2.1 demo) on March 31st and pulled a miniscule 1.4 demo. No way Mr. Sunshine should be renewed considering Cougar Town isn't even that strong.

benjamoon
04-21-2011, 06:55 PM
I wouldn't really shed a tear if all of them departed. The only ones I've semi-enjoyed are Better With You, Mad Love, and Mr. Sunshine. The only one that MIGHT deserve a renewal is Breaking In. But I wouldn't be shocked to see ABC give a renewal to Sunshine and/or Happy Endings, not that they deserve it.

Some of those shows - Perfect Couples, Happy Endings, Outsourced, Paul Reiser Show, $#*! My Dad Says - have been just dreadful

AB
04-21-2011, 07:14 PM
My picks:

$#*! My Dad Says
Mr. Sunshine
Happy Endings

comedyfreak
04-22-2011, 01:07 AM
I want Bleep My Dad Says, Better With You, Happy Endings to come back haven't seen enough of the others to say one way or the other.

R.jsheedy
04-23-2011, 12:02 PM
I said HAD to air against American Idol before...


January 20th:
Modern Family - 4.6 demo
Cougar Town - 2.4 demo

American Idol - 9.7 demo

January 27th:
Modern Family (R) - 2.6 demo
Cougar Town - 2.0 demo

American Idol - 9.2 demo

Basically, Cougar Town held its own with a 2.0 demo, against American Idol and with a Modern Family repeat lead in. Mr. Sunshine had the same situation one time (with a lower American Idol - 7.7 demo and a higher Modern Family - 2.1 demo) on March 31st and pulled a miniscule 1.4 demo. No way Mr. Sunshine should be renewed considering Cougar Town isn't even that strong.


WHY MR. SUNSHINE SHOULD BE SAVED!!!!

"WHY IT SHOULD LIVE: When you pay top dollar to get a former Friend to star in your sitcom, it's understandable that you'd want instant results. But sorry, ABC: This is not 1998. Big names don't even guarantee sampling anymore, let alone the instant embrace of an audience. And while audiences likely realized the title was meant ironically and were excited at the prospect of more Chandlerian dourness, they may have been put off by just how how cranky he is. But once you get past that, there's lots to like about Sunshine, including a deep bench of great supporting actors (led by Allison Janney) and the comforting presence of Perry himself. Like his ex-castmate Courteney Cox, Perry was genetically engineered to be on TV. And just as Cougar Town took a beat or two to find itself, we think Sunshine can fix some of its flaws (including the sitcom-itis smartly diagnosed by Hampton Stevens in a recent post on TheAtlantic.com). The niche-y Sunshine could also benefit from not being behind the incompatible monster hit Modern Family; ABC would be much better off saving Sunshine and pairing it with Cougar Town next fall as part of a new comedy night.

ODDS OF SURVIVAL: 50-50. On the plus side, Sunshine is ABC's No. 1 new comedy of the season. Yes, it had the powerful Modern Family lead-in, but several of its episodes came after MF reruns. It's also faced the final, generally highest-rated half-hour of Fox's American Idol, which makes its respectable ratings even more impressive. On the other hand, Sunshine was developed by former ABC chief Steve McPherson. That means new boss Paul Lee could easily ax Sunshine without feeling any sense of personal failure for having spent so much coin on a Big Star."

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/04/keep-kill.html#photo=1x85074

"• "I believe Mr. Sunshine has real potential. But that potential can only be realized by putting Matthew Perry in front of a live audience again. I don't want to replicate Friends, but I think his comedic timing is better when he plays off an immediate reaction. As the show stands, Perry feels too contrived and overacted." — Ashley Taylor, Fort Worth"

http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/2011-04-20-SOSresponses21_ST_N.htm

Tuesday

8:00 Dancing with The Stars
9:00 Cougar Town
9:30 Mr. Sunshine
10:00 Body of Proof

Wednesday

8:00 The Middle
8:30 NEW COMEDY [tim]
9:00 Modern Family
9:30 NEW COMEDY [apartment 23]

Cougar Town and Mr. Sunshine can make a good new comedy block, and when Dancing goes on Hiatus, they can extend the block to the 8 O'clock hour with new comedies... Maybe Better with You at 8:30 and a new comedy at 8.

yankeesrj12
04-23-2011, 02:38 PM
An internet article isn't going to save the show. The fact is that the ratings weren't there, so the show shouldn't be renewed. If it is, ABC is making a huge mistake.

Regarding the poll, I wish I could take my vote for Happy Endings back. The show started out okay, but I stopped watching during the third episode. I may come back for Damon Wayans guest-role, but I'm not quite sure yet.

R.jsheedy
04-23-2011, 04:13 PM
An internet article isn't going to save the show. The fact is that the ratings weren't there, so the show shouldn't be renewed. If it is, ABC is making a huge mistake.

Regarding the poll, I wish I could take my vote for Happy Endings back. The show started out okay, but I stopped watching during the third episode. I may come back for Damon Wayans guest-role, but I'm not quite sure yet.

Well in the end, when it comes down to it, if they have the chance to renew either Mr. Sunshine or Happy Endings, their going to go where the big bucks are, Mr. Sunshine, the old friends star. But hey, Paul Lee could also Axe both shows without any regret since they where developed by Stephen McPherson.

yankeesrj12
04-23-2011, 07:45 PM
Well in the end, when it comes down to it, if they have the chance to renew either Mr. Sunshine or Happy Endings, their going to go where the big bucks are, Mr. Sunshine, the old friends star. But hey, Paul Lee could also Axe both shows without any regret since they where developed by Stephen McPherson.
and I think that is the big difference - Paul Lee. He has a terrible network in his hands and has to make some big changes. I really think they are going to dump every comedy, with the exception of the already-renewed The Middle, Modern Family, and Cougar Town. I can't see a new comedy block for next season since the 8pm hour is collapsing this season against American Idol.

When comparing Mr. Sunshine and Happy Endings, I think Happy Endings would be renewed over Mr. Sunshine, if the ratings stop bleeding. Happy Endings is a bunch of nobodies, so it has to be cheaper than Mr. Sunshine. If Happy Endings continues to slide, then I think its done (which will probably be determined this week). Mr. Sunshine has a slime ray of hope, but its slim.

R.jsheedy
04-24-2011, 07:22 PM
and I think that is the big difference - Paul Lee. He has a terrible network in his hands and has to make some big changes. I really think they are going to dump every comedy, with the exception of the already-renewed The Middle, Modern Family, and Cougar Town. I can't see a new comedy block for next season since the 8pm hour is collapsing this season against American Idol.

When comparing Mr. Sunshine and Happy Endings, I think Happy Endings would be renewed over Mr. Sunshine, if the ratings stop bleeding. Happy Endings is a bunch of nobodies, so it has to be cheaper than Mr. Sunshine. If Happy Endings continues to slide, then I think its done (which will probably be determined this week). Mr. Sunshine has a slime ray of hope, but its slim.

Do you really think Paul Lee would dump Better with You, Mr. Sunshine and Happy Endings.... all 3 of them??????? They do need something if their going to try and start a new comedy block...

JulieSomoski
04-24-2011, 11:34 PM
Do you really think Paul Lee would dump Better with You, Mr. Sunshine and Happy Endings.... all 3 of them??????? They do need something if their going to try and start a new comedy block...

Who says they're going to start a new comedy block anyways? And why wouldn't they cancel all 3? All 3 are doing terrible in the ratings and don't deserve to be renewed. Mr. Sunshine couldn't even hold a MF repeat lead-in. BWY has fallen from The Middle every single airing this season. Happy Endings is so-far bombing at 10pm. Plus, they have some really strong comedies in development, lead by the new Tim Allen multi-cam comedy that sounds like the next big hit. If anything's going to start a new comedy block, that should be it.

Mr. Television
04-24-2011, 11:59 PM
I think all of these shows should be canceled. lol

James28
04-25-2011, 12:28 AM
What is the point of having a "On the Bubble/Certain Cancellation" show renewed for next season if they're all probably gonna be FE'd anyway? By the way, The Paul Reiser show already got cancelled and Mr. Sunshine is probably going to be going the way of the 1986 series with a blind character (both were short-lived midseason replacement series and both aired on ABC).

yankeesrj12
04-25-2011, 12:38 AM
Who says they're going to start a new comedy block anyways? And why wouldn't they cancel all 3? All 3 are doing terrible in the ratings and don't deserve to be renewed. Mr. Sunshine couldn't even hold a MF repeat lead-in. BWY has fallen from The Middle every single airing this season. Happy Endings is so-far bombing at 10pm. Plus, they have some really strong comedies in development, lead by the new Tim Allen multi-cam comedy that sounds like the next big hit. If anything's going to start a new comedy block, that should be it.
EXACTLY! ABC started a strong comedy lineup with all new series last year, why not try to do the same again next year? They don't have to bring back low performing series or the new comedy block (if one is formed) is going to be low-rated anyways.

R.jsheedy
04-25-2011, 03:26 PM
EXACTLY! ABC started a strong comedy lineup with all new series last year, why not try to do the same again next year? They don't have to bring back low performing series or the new comedy block (if one is formed) is going to be low-rated anyways.

just historically, ABC has usually renewed a low rated first season run series for a second season.... V got renewed last year.... Better off Ted and Scrubs where renewed the year before.... And this year, i don't see any single show on ABC that's struggling in the ratings and that deserves a second shot more than these 3 ABC comedies... Body of Proof is sure to be renewed, Detroit 187, Off the Map, and No Ordinary Family are all sure to be goners... either pick up Better with You, Happy Endings, or Mr. Sunshine.... ABC seriously wants to expand their comedy lineup next year, i think it's safe to keep just 1, maybe just one of these great shows that you guys are so willing to toss out the window as their nothing...

JulieSomoski
04-25-2011, 05:10 PM
just historically, ABC has usually renewed a low rated first season run series for a second season.... V got renewed last year.... Better off Ted and Scrubs where renewed the year before.... And this year, i don't see any single show on ABC that's struggling in the ratings and that deserves a second shot more than these 3 ABC comedies... Body of Proof is sure to be renewed, Detroit 187, Off the Map, and No Ordinary Family are all sure to be goners... either pick up Better with You, Happy Endings, or Mr. Sunshine.... ABC seriously wants to expand their comedy lineup next year, i think it's safe to keep just 1, maybe just one of these great shows that you guys are so willing to toss out the window as their nothing...

Better With You was good but lost my interest. Happy Endings is good so far, and if the ratings were better, I'd be all for it coming back. Mr. Sunshine was pretty lousy. From a pure ratings standpoint, not one deserves a renewal. They've all gone under a 2.0 demo. I mean, it's bad enough that they have The Middle suddenly dropping so much and Cougar Town still wasting that 9:30 timeslot. They're not going to bring on another underperforming comedy. They have some good pilots. I think they'll take the risk and start fresh next season.

Mr. Television
04-25-2011, 05:15 PM
Better With You was good but lost my interest. Happy Endings is good so far, and if the ratings were better, I'd be all for it coming back. Mr. Sunshine was pretty lousy. From a pure ratings standpoint, not one deserves a renewal. They've all gone under a 2.0 demo. I mean, it's bad enough that they have The Middle suddenly dropping so much and Cougar Town still wasting that 9:30 timeslot. They're not going to bring on another underperforming comedy. They have some good pilots. I think they'll take the risk and start fresh next season.
AI and Survivor are really hurting The Middle. I hope it rebounds next year. That is my favorite ABC comedy.

benjamoon
04-25-2011, 09:11 PM
just historically, ABC has usually renewed a low rated first season run series for a second season.... V got renewed last year.... Better off Ted and Scrubs where renewed the year before.... And this year, i don't see any single show on ABC that's struggling in the ratings and that deserves a second shot more than these 3 ABC comedies... Body of Proof is sure to be renewed, Detroit 187, Off the Map, and No Ordinary Family are all sure to be goners... either pick up Better with You, Happy Endings, or Mr. Sunshine.... ABC seriously wants to expand their comedy lineup next year, i think it's safe to keep just 1, maybe just one of these great shows that you guys are so willing to toss out the window as their nothing...

Your rationale is exactly what put ABC into their current drama problem. They kept renewing marginally successful or lead-in dependent dramas (V, Private Practice, Brothers & Sisters, etc) to the point that they have a severely weakened drama lineup because they keep these shows on rather than focusing on their development or launching new hits. When ABC had a dream season in 2004-2005 with the launch of Lost, Desperate Housewives, and Grey's Anatomy - they took chances and succeeded. They succeeded again in 2009 when they launched a successful comedy night from scratch and hit on 3 out of 4. You are advocating a conservative approach to programming (renew marginally successful shows as insurance or whatever) and that's not going to work. Those shows don't have much upside at this point (maybe Happy Endings, but probably not even that).

I'm not saying that they won't renew 1 or more of those comedies, but they SHOULDN'T.

R.jsheedy
04-26-2011, 03:51 PM
BETTER WITH YOU MONDAY NIGHT PRIMARY RATINGS!!!


Following Dancing with the Stars, a special timeslot Better With You drew a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating, 0.4 better than last week’s special Cougar Town in the same timeslot.


BETTER WITH YOU

18/49 Raiting
2.6

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The show beat out a repeat of CBS's Mike and Molly by almost 4 Million viewers and .4 in the 18/49 rating. I think it's safe to say that this show may be renewed. It did better than Cougar Town in the time slot, it must have potential than to be a big hit. This one should deffently be renewed for insurance reasons.

we cannot compaire these ratings to a regular Wednesday night airing because last night it was not up ageist American Idol nor Survivor.

icecream
04-26-2011, 04:04 PM
The show beat out a repeat of CBS's Mike and Molly by almost 4 Million viewers and .4 in the 18/49 rating. I think it's safe to say that this show may be renewed.Better With You did do well on Monday night. However, I don't think it would usually do that well. Last night had a crossover audience from Derek Hough fans who watch DWTS. That wouldn't usually be the case. And its ratings on Wednesday have plummeted. Sure, it's on against Idol, but so are The Middle and Modern Family, and they do better. Out of the three new comedies this year (Better With You, Mr. Sunshine, Happy Endings) I think BWY is least likely to come back.

benjamoon
04-26-2011, 06:17 PM
BETTER WITH YOU MONDAY NIGHT PRIMARY RATINGS!!!

The show beat out a repeat of CBS's Mike and Molly by almost 4 Million viewers and .4 in the 18/49 rating. I think it's safe to say that this show may be renewed. It did better than Cougar Town in the time slot, it must have potential than to be a big hit. This one should deffently be renewed for insurance reasons.

we cannot compaire these ratings to a regular Wednesday night airing because last night it was not up ageist American Idol nor Survivor.

My goodness.... you make the argument for it not being renewed right in your post saying it should be renewed.

While I didn't expect BWY to be that high last night, there is a lot to consider:

-- It was against a REPEAT of "Mike & Molly" (and a repeat of FOX's "The Chicago Code") whereas "Cougar Town" was against new episodes of both those shows. It's only new competition was NBC's fledgling "The Event"
-- It had a cross-promotional boost with Derek Hough and the audience is more compatible with DWTS than CT's audience anyway (and this is coming from someone who doesn't like Cougar Town and is never a defender of that show, but get real)

and most importantly:
You are RIGHT that we can't compare it to Wednesday night's ratings. It DOESN'T do well in its regular timeslot. It can only do moderately well when it has a huge lead-in. Against competition and in a regular slot, it has been faltering badly lately. I really can't even believe you made that argument because it works exactly against what you meant haha.

yankeesrj12
04-26-2011, 08:14 PM
BETTER WITH YOU MONDAY NIGHT PRIMARY RATINGS!!!


Following Dancing with the Stars, a special timeslot Better With You drew a 2.6 adults 18-49 rating, 0.4 better than last week’s special Cougar Town in the same timeslot.


BETTER WITH YOU

18/49 Raiting
2.6

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Viewers
11.648

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The show beat out a repeat of CBS's Mike and Molly by almost 4 Million viewers and .4 in the 18/49 rating. I think it's safe to say that this show may be renewed. It did better than Cougar Town in the time slot, it must have potential than to be a big hit. This one should deffently be renewed for insurance reasons.

we cannot compaire these ratings to a regular Wednesday night airing because last night it was not up ageist American Idol nor Survivor.
The only reason it did better is because the audiences for both shows have a lot more in common than the audience for DWTS and Cougar Town.

Don't get me wrong, I like Better with You, but it should be cancelled.

JulieSomoski
04-26-2011, 09:36 PM
AI and Survivor are really hurting The Middle. I hope it rebounds next year. That is my favorite ABC comedy.

Mine too. But I'm quite surprised at it going under 2.0, especially since it was hitting high 2s earlier in the season. The competition, and the hour, is definitely hurting it, unfortunately.

And on the BWY issue, it is a decent and actually funny show. But why should ABC keep it around? They can do better. As long as they keep trying. They can't halt the search by renewing shows that do lackluster ratings. If it sees an increase in ratings on Wednesday, that's one thing. But if it's back to a 1.6, ABC has no reason to renew it.

icecream
04-26-2011, 10:35 PM
And this year, i don't see any single show on ABC that's struggling in the ratings and that deserves a second shot more than these 3 ABC comedies... Body of Proof is sure to be renewed, Detroit 187, Off the Map, and No Ordinary Family are all sure to be goners...WRONG. Quality wise No Ordinary Family is better than all 3 new comedies combined. And NOF would have been a lot more likely to be a hit if from the start it had switched times with the DWTS results. A strong lead-in and weaker competition (no Glee/NCIS) would have been a different story. Look how much DWTS has helped Body of Proof, I just wish No Ordinary Family had gotten that chance instead. :(

R.jsheedy
04-26-2011, 10:52 PM
Mine too. But I'm quite surprised at it going under 2.0, especially since it was hitting high 2s earlier in the season. The competition, and the hour, is definitely hurting it, unfortunately.

And on the BWY issue, it is a decent and actually funny show. But why should ABC keep it around? They can do better. As long as they keep trying. They can't halt the search by renewing shows that do lackluster ratings. If it sees an increase in ratings on Wednesday, that's one thing. But if it's back to a 1.6, ABC has no reason to renew it.

It has got to do better than a 1.6 this Wednesday... if it doesn't go over a 2 on Wednesday, i'll side with you guys and say it has to be cancelled. But if it gets 2.2,2.3 or anything higher than that, that i think it's a keeper.... Even for insurance as CBS did with Rules of Engagements for so many years...

R.jsheedy
04-26-2011, 10:56 PM
WRONG. Quality wise No Ordinary Family is better than all 3 new comedies combined. And NOF would have been a lot more likely to be a hit if from the start it had switched times with the DWTS results. A strong lead-in and weaker competition (no Glee/NCIS) would have been a different story. Look how much DWTS has helped Body of Proof, I just wish No Ordinary Family had gotten that chance instead. :(

so you, if i'm getting this straight, want No Ordinary Family renewed, a first run show for ABC thats struggling and give it a second chance like it has done so many times in the past, that people on this board are objecting about and saying that this is why ABC has the drama mess they have now???? Tell me if i'm wrong???

Michael Chicklas has already moved on to a CBS pilot, Vince Uncensored with EP Conan O'Brien and director Kelsey Grammer, i think Chicklas has given up on his own show, at any hope it will return. I wouldn't hold your breath on a pickup for no ordinary family if he's moved on.

benjamoon
04-27-2011, 12:32 AM
so you, if i'm getting this straight, want No Ordinary Family renewed, a first run show for ABC thats struggling and give it a second chance like it has done so many times in the past, that people on this board are objecting about and saying that this is why ABC has the drama mess they have now???? Tell me if i'm wrong???

Michael Chicklas has already moved on to a CBS pilot, Vince Uncensored with EP Conan O'Brien and director Kelsey Grammer, i think Chicklas has given up on his own show, at any hope it will return. I wouldn't hold your breath on a pickup for no ordinary family if he's moved on.

That's really not what they're saying... they're saying it was better quality-wise and they WISH it had been more successful.

I don't necessarily agree about NOF but I would say the same thing about Detroit 1-8-7. That doesn't mean I think it SHOULD get renewed. That's an entirely different story.

R.jsheedy
04-28-2011, 12:11 PM
MONDAY
BETTER WITH YOU

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Ya,Theres no way this show should come back next year after that fall from Monday Night Ratings.... But Cougar Town wasn't much better last night either, with a 2.1 in 4th Place... Breaking in beat it by .5 in the ratings with a 2.6.

yankeesrj12
04-29-2011, 04:55 PM
Breaking In also had the lead in of American Idol, Cougar Town had an encore of Modern Family.

Anyways, ABC was stupid with its scheduling of Better with You. Everything should have been new on Wednesday after giving Better with You a special episode on Monday. Airing an episode after Dancing with the Stars was good, but to give it a repeat lead in for its regular airing is a terrible decision, in my opinion. ABC could have capitalized on that extra boost with a new lead in, but failed to do that.

R.jsheedy
04-29-2011, 09:41 PM
Breaking In also had the lead in of American Idol, Cougar Town had an encore of Modern Family.

Anyways, ABC was stupid with its scheduling of Better with You. Everything should have been new on Wednesday after giving Better with You a special episode on Monday. Airing an episode after Dancing with the Stars was good, but to give it a repeat lead in for its regular airing is a terrible decision, in my opinion. ABC could have capitalized on that extra boost with a new lead in, but failed to do that.

That was really bad scheduling.. i think with a whole new lineup, i bet it could have pulled a 1.8 maybe, if it had a Middle lead in. But this was bad scheduling on ABC's part. The Middle and Modern Family season finales will be up agents the Idol Finale... and that will kill it's ratings!!!

James28
04-29-2011, 11:27 PM
If there was an On the Bubble/Certain Cancellation show which would be picked up, it should be both of CSI's spinoff series. If they're considering cancelling those shows, why not renew them for another season to give them decent closure?

R.jsheedy
05-04-2011, 07:17 PM
If there was an On the Bubble/Certain Cancellation show which would be picked up, it should be both of CSI's spinoff series. If they're considering cancelling those shows, why not renew them for another season to give them decent closure?

I think the Criminal Minds spin off should be cancelled, but i'm defiantly for the CSI spin offs to be kept.... They ran long enough to deserve closure, i think! But they will stick around for years.

yankeesrj12
05-05-2011, 09:23 PM
I think the Criminal Minds spin off should be cancelled, but i'm defiantly for the CSI spin offs to be kept.... They ran long enough to deserve closure, i think! But they will stick around for years.
CSI: Miami is probably coming back. The numbers are pretty good for Sunday at 10pm, and are close to that of last weeks airing of CSI.

If any CSI spinoff is gone, it would be NY. Anything can happen though! :)