View Full Version : Why Didn't UM Cover the "Springfield 3?"


Thiussat
03-09-2011, 05:47 AM
I was just watching the show "Disappeared" and the most recent episode which aired last night was about the "Springfield 3." This is the case where three women disappeared from Springfield, MO in 1992. The three were Stacy McCall, Suzie Streeter, and Suzie's mother Sherill Levitt.

In case you aren't familiar with it (I wasn't), Stacy and Suzie, who had just graduated high school, were staying together at Suzie's house. Suzie's mother, Sherill, was also there. When none of the three could be accounted for the next day, a friend of the girls went over there and knocked (she was supposed to meet them that morning anyway). When she got no answer, she decided to go inside. Inside she found nothing amiss whatsoever: She noticed all three purses were there as well as the girls' clothes. Before she left, the phone rang; it was an anonymous male who started making sexual remarks, so she hung up and didn't think much of it at the time. Eventually a missing persons report was filed and the story took off from there. Over 30 officers worked the case and the FBI gave assistance. Even now, no bodies have been found and no arrests made, even though there is one very strong suspect and another good tip about other possible suspects.

For those of you who are ignorant of the case (as I was), I bet you noticed the date and location. It happened in Missouri in June of 1992, just a few months after Angela Hammond, Cheryl Ann Kenny and Gina Clark's disappearances. Hammond, of course, had her own segment and Kenney was discussed briefly during that segment. Clark and the Springfield 3 were not covered by UM. It's pretty interesting that all 5 women disappeared in Missouri within a 6 or 7 month time frame.

At any rate, since it didn't appear on UM, I won't go into any more detail. I was mainly wondering why UM wouldn't cover such a intriguing and bizarre case that happened in '92 at the peak of UM's hey day. I realize it would be impossible for them to cover all cases in America, but when you have 3 adults from the same house go missing at the same time, it had to be one of the more bizarre and noteworthy cases happening anywhere in America at that time.

Anyway, I am thinking about starting a thread about this case in the "True Crime Shows" sub-forum if anyone is interested.

RobinW
03-09-2011, 10:41 AM
Okay, this article actually states that the case WAS featured on "Unsolved Mysteries". The exact words are: "By September 1992, Fox's 'America's Most Wanted', NBC's 'Unsolved Mysteries' and CBS's '48 Hours' all had run feature stories on the case".
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7576.0

The Wikipedia page for the Springfield Three even mentions that they were featured on "Unsolved Mysteries" and I've seen it mentioned elsewhere as well. I know UM never did a full feature on this case, but does anyone recall seeing a "Special Alert" for it or something? Or this just inaccurate information that was posted on Wikipedia and has wound up spreading?

ernmerica
03-09-2011, 03:48 PM
I saw the Disappeared episode as well and I was thinking the same thing, the mysteries in the story are right in UM's wheelhouse, especially the time it happened. From what I gathered from the episode it sounds like Cox is guilty, and those women are buried under the parking garage.


I don't understand why they don't dig that concrete up, the rumors are high profile, and if you have anything to do with the hospital (owner, employee, or patient), it must be on the tip of everyone's tongue. The best case scenario for the hospital is the police dig under the garage and no one is found. But what happens if they are found? "Oh yeah, we're taking you to a hospital where three women were buried under the foundation." Law enforcement needs to clear the air on the location, according to the analyst there are 3 anomalies that looks similar to what the ground looks like in a graveyard.

browneyes106
03-09-2011, 04:03 PM
Okay, this article actually states that the case WAS featured on "Unsolved Mysteries". The exact words are: "By September 1992, Fox's 'America's Most Wanted', NBC's 'Unsolved Mysteries' and CBS's '48 Hours' all had run feature stories on the case".
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=7576.0

The Wikipedia page for the Springfield Three even mentions that they were featured on "Unsolved Mysteries" and I've seen it mentioned elsewhere as well. I know UM never did a full feature on this case, but does anyone recall seeing a "Special Alert" for it or something? Or this just inaccurate information that was posted on Wikipedia and has wound up spreading?

I also watched the Disappeared episode on The Springfield Three and it is a very sad and intriguing case. I also did some searched for information and came across the article you found and on a few other articles I remember seeing UM mentioned. I also don't ever remember a Special alert on this case. I think the information online could be inaccurate.

I was surprised that UM didn't cover this back then. My guess is that either the families of the three women or law enforcement didn't want to see a need for UM to be involved. Based on what I observed in the Disappeared episode it seemed there were a lot of conflicting matters in the first few months of the investigation due to people connected to the victims.

There have been 90's several missing persons cases that were very high profile in certain areas back ins that UM didn't cover. A few years back on a E! program, I learned about the Jackie Levitz disappearance which happened in 1995 and I asked here if the case was featured and I found out it wasn't.

browneyes106
03-09-2011, 04:09 PM
I saw the Disappeared episode as well and I was thinking the same thing, the mysteries in the story are right in UM's wheelhouse. From what I gathered from the episode it sounds like Cox is guilty, and those women are buried under the parking garage.


I don't understand why they don't dig that concrete up, the rumors are high profile, and if you have anything to do with the hospital (owner, employee, or patient), it must be on the tip of everyone's tongue. The best case scenario for the hospital is the police dig under the garage and no one is found. But what happens if they are found? "Oh yeah, we're taking you to a hospital where three women were buried under the foundation." Law enforcement needs to clear the air on the location, according to the analyst there are 3 anomalies that looks similar to what the ground looks like in a graveyard.

I thought the same things you did about the parking garage. From the information I read online it seems that the Springfield law enforcement didn't take the analyst seriously with the scanning work he had done.

Cursiorandcursior
03-09-2011, 06:40 PM
Actually this case was on "48 Hours" in 9/92, then sometime on Unsolved Mysteries, and finally America's Most Wanted about the end of December 1992. This would be the fourth program that has covered the case.

As one who has immersed myself in this case, it seems to me that there are only a select group of top suspects; Cox, Garrison, Carnahan and the three grave robbers. The first three are in the slammer for life and the grave robbers are essentially off the hook at this time. A wild card is Chris Revak who committed suicide while in jail in 2009.

I couldn't tell you why they haven't cored that garage floor. It does not require the floor to be destroyed. And for those who believe it impossible for them to be there, that would only be true if the garage was built before the women went missing. The garage came later. There is another well known site in town that has been mentioned as a burial site also concreted over. Many others believe the bodies were dumped in one of many caves and abandoned wells scattered throughout the Ozarks.

What I have never been able to figure out is the motive.

One thing that was brought to a head was that Stacy's father and Cox actually worked at the same dealership although not the one shown in the program. It was at Reliable Chevrolet, a huge dealership in Springfield. However, that is more likely than not a coincidence. I have speculated that if Cox did this he may have seen Stacy had she come to visit her father while at work. They did not do the same type of work so it is possible they didn't even know one another.

Thiussat
03-09-2011, 08:37 PM
So, are you guys saying this was covered on UM? If so, can anyone give me the episode and air date? I am curious because I would like to go searching on the unmentionable site for it.

Cursiorandcursior
03-10-2011, 12:51 AM
So, are you guys saying this was covered on UM? If so, can anyone give me the episode and air date? I am curious because I would like to go searching on the unmentionable site for it.

It was but as to the date and time I don't know how you would get that information. I used to have it on tape along with the "48 Hours" and AMW but I lent it to someone else to run with the story. I don't know that any new ground was covered that isn't already known. "Air Alex" has virtually devoted its entire website to this case. A lot of bizarre stuff has been written over the years but some of it is probably close to the truth. Another website has had four long threads devoted to this one case. I'd do a "google" to get those links if you are interested in reading up on the case. Be prepared to spend weeks catching up with all that has been written about the case.

crystaldawn
03-10-2011, 08:07 AM
I'm not sure it ever did air on UM. There have been a few cases where in print it says they were featured on UM but no one remembers ever seeing them. I do agree it does seem like a case that was right down their alley. It might have been a Special Alert type where they just quickly show their picture and mention the circumstances around their disappearance. It seems that a lot of those were only aired once.

Btw does anyone know if there have been any books written about the Springfield 3?

Melanie85
03-10-2011, 11:20 AM
I don't recall seeing anything about it on UM. In fact, the first time I heard about this case was a few years ago when I was perusing around Charley Project and came across Suzie Streeter's profile.

I'm curious as to how so many people believe the women are buried under the concrete. I wonder how/where the rumor originated from and why so many people believe it's the truth. If their bodies were buried there before the parking deck was built, you would think they would have recovered the bodies once they began construction. After all, the gentleman that brought the GPS locater into the garage says that the three objects aren't buried too far under the concrete. Just seems odd and a little far fetched to me.

browneyes106
03-10-2011, 12:32 PM
I don't recall seeing anything about it on UM. In fact, the first time I heard about this case was a few years ago when I was perusing around Charley Project and came across Suzie Streeter's profile.

I'm curious as to how so many people believe the women are buried under the concrete. I wonder how/where the rumor originated from and why so many people believe it's the truth. If their bodies were buried there before the parking deck was built, you would think they would have recovered the bodies once they began construction. After all, the gentleman that brought the GPS locater into the garage says that the three objects aren't buried too far under the concrete. Just seems odd and a little far fetched to me.

I found this webslueth thread and early in the thread one poster mentions that one theory, was that a laborers working on the complex preyed on the women because the hospital is close to the home that Sherill and Suzie lived in.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8961

There are other threads on WS and I'll read them here and there today because I have some downtime with my job right now. In this thread one poster named Ken claims to have a vision of Stacey McCall and there was a link that detailed it but it seems to be a dead link and this poster said he corresponded with Robert Cox. But the poster has a "Bannded" tag on his avatar so something seems fishy there.

Cursiorandcursior
03-10-2011, 12:32 PM
I'm not sure it ever did air on UM. There have been a few cases where in print it says they were featured on UM but no one remembers ever seeing them. I do agree it does seem like a case that was right down their alley. It might have been a Special Alert type where they just quickly show their picture and mention the circumstances around their disappearance. It seems that a lot of those were only aired once.

Btw does anyone know if there have been any books written about the Springfield 3? The only book ever written that I am aware is a fictional novelette by June Spence. This is the link but it may require you register. Instead go to google and type in "june spence missing women." It has the entire work that will come up to read.

http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/s/spence-missing.html

It did in fact air on UM as I saw and recorded it on tape.

Kane
03-10-2011, 02:48 PM
It did in fact air on UM as I saw and recorded it on tape.

Was it a segment on the case per se, or was it shown as part of a segment (i.e., "special alert" or some other segment that primarily focused on another case)?

ernmerica
03-10-2011, 05:23 PM
I don't recall seeing anything about it on UM. In fact, the first time I heard about this case was a few years ago when I was perusing around Charley Project and came across Suzie Streeter's profile.

I'm curious as to how so many people believe the women are buried under the concrete. I wonder how/where the rumor originated from and why so many people believe it's the truth. If their bodies were buried there before the parking deck was built, you would think they would have recovered the bodies once they began construction. After all, the gentleman that brought the GPS locater into the garage says that the three objects aren't buried too far under the concrete. Just seems odd and a little far fetched to me.


The guy with the ground penetrating radar scanner first surveyed it well after its construction. I don't know about other people but the "Disappeared" episode was where I first learned details of this case. You would find the reason they think they are in the garage very odd, actually now that I am running through it in my head, I may have missed something, or there is a hole in the story.

One of the main suspects, Robert Cox, when questioned about whether he had anything to do with it I believe vaguely and suspiciously denied it, but said he is convinced they are dead and they are buried in a shallow grave somewhere around Springfield. They asked why he thought that and he said he had something like a "gut feeling".

The part I forget is how they got to this specific hospital. Right now I am reading online there were numerous tips leading to this hospital, which coincidentally bears the same name as the suspect, Cox South Hospital.

Convinced of the location, Baird, a lead investigator in the case contacted Rick Norland, a consulting engineer who worked on a number of big projects including Ground Zero in New York City. On June 16, 2006 while performing the scan he discovered what he said appeared to be three graves under the concrete at the Cox South Hospital Parking Garage on Bradford Parkway in Springfield.

Cursiorandcursior
03-10-2011, 07:31 PM
I found this webslueth thread and early in the thread one poster mentions that one theory, was that a laborers working on the complex preyed on the women because the hospital is close to the home that Sherill and Suzie lived in.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8961

There are other threads on WS and I'll read them here and there today because I have some downtime with my job right now. In this thread one poster named Ken claims to have a vision of Stacey McCall and there was a link that detailed it but it seems to be a dead link and this poster said he corresponded with Robert Cox. But the poster has a "Banned" tag on his avatar so something seems fishy there. I know who you are talking about and his banning came as a result of his "visions" and other paranormal postings.

The laborer angle has to do with so-called concrete workers who may or may not have participated in the concreting over of the women at two alleged slabs in Springfield. That has been speculated on forever. I really don't know one way or another. Plausible but unproven.

If I could suggest where to look it would be the following: 1) Cox, 2) Garrison, 3) Carnahan, 4) the three grave robbers, 5) wild card - Chris Revak. There might be a connection between 1, 2, 3, and 4.

Thiussat
03-10-2011, 09:35 PM
I'm curious as to how so many people believe the women are buried under the concrete. I wonder how/where the rumor originated from and why so many people believe it's the truth.

An investigative journalist said she has had several calls from different witnesses not connected to each other that have said to "look under the concrete." She assumes it's people who have heard something through the grapevine but didn't actually witness the deaths. It is known that the parking garage was being built at the time of the disappearances. People have suggested that some of the construction workers were rather shady people as there was reported drug activity going on there. IIRC, the parking garage is very near the house from where the women went missing and it's possible one of the workers had "a thing" for one of them because he could probably see them in the neighborhood on a day to day basis.

I still think Cox is the best suspect. Just my opinion. We know he is a killer and used to work with one of the victim's father.

If their bodies were buried there before the parking deck was built, you would think they would have recovered the bodies once they began construction.

Again, the parking deck was being built during the time they went missing. It is likely that the construction workers there would know the ins and outs of the site and would be able to manage burying them under the cement. I agree it is not the most likely scenario, but considering the site was so close to the home and was under construction and that very time, I think it is a lead to be looked into. Also, keep in mind that construction projects do tend to bring in migrants with no roots in a specific area. So, it could potentially lead to a scenario of them being able to "fly under the radar" fairly easily.

But again, I think Cox is the most likely perp. Actually, I think both scenarios could be true actually: It's possible Cox used the construction site in some manner as a burial site.

Cursiorandcursior
03-11-2011, 12:10 AM
I have long advocated and argued that Cox was the best suspect but I am coming around to the view that Gerald Carnahan could have ordered this hit up as he had the financial ability to carry out such a hit on the behalf of acquaintances. He is now in prison for life on the Jackie Johns murder from 1985. Only last year was he brought to justice. Cox could have been in his employ. This Garrison business is also quite unusual as well. He is in prison until he is 109 years old. Cox will never see the light of day either and neither will Carnahan. Both Cox and Garrison have clammed up. The grave robbers remain free as of this writing. I believe their current status is that of "persons of interest."

Thiussat
03-11-2011, 03:32 AM
I have long advocated and argued that Cox was the best suspect but I am coming around to the view that Gerald Carnahan could have ordered this hit up as he had the financial ability to carry out such a hit on the behalf of acquaintances. He is now in prison for life on the Jackie Johns murder from 1985. Only last year was he brought to justice. Cox could have been in his employ. This Garrison business is also quite unusual as well. He is in prison until he is 109 years old. Cox will never see the light of day either and neither will Carnahan. Both Cox and Garrison have clammed up. The grave robbers remain free as of this writing. I believe their current status is that of "persons of interest."


Who are these Carnahan and Garrison characters?

Melanie85
03-11-2011, 10:48 AM
Anybody know if the Springfield police plan to excavate the parking deck anytime soon? It was implied at the end of the Disappeared show that the police were interested in doing so (as of December 2010).

TheCars1986
03-11-2011, 10:49 AM
As to the question of this being featured on UM, I am almost 100% positive that I saw this case. I definitely did not see this on the "Disappeared" show (good show, BTW) and I remember seeing it on one of the Lifetime reruns. I seem to recall it being one of the "newer" segments, possibly from the 2000's, or the season before like the late 90's (the same season that featured Tommy Zeigler, Phillip Kramer, and Katherine Korzilius). It wasn't a special alert, it was an actual segment. Wish I could give you more specific details, but this was all I remember.

Cursiorandcursior
03-11-2011, 11:11 AM
Who are these Carnahan and Garrison characters?

Carnahan is a convicted murderer who brutally murdered a young woman in 1985 and only last year got life in prison. It's a long story but he is suspected in other crimes throughout the Ozarks. Many people believed he was involved from the outset. Garrison is a convicted rapist and was widely suspected by the police back in the early 1990s. He was supposed to take them to the remains but couldn't or wouldn't deliver. There was some very unusual activities at his trial where his attorney and family were threatened by a biker type who is unidentified. He will be eligible for parole when he is 109 years old. Carnahan got two life terms and Cox is theoretically eligible in 2025 but has some federal charges hanging over his head. It is unlikely any will see the outside of prison. Cox and Garrison may be connected but have clammed up. I've not heard if Carnahan has said anything about this crime.

This is a thumbnail sketch of these guys. There is much, much more that would be too long to put into one post.

asmitty
03-11-2011, 11:54 AM
I, too, saw the Disappeared episode on this the other night. I do not ever remember seeing this on UM but have been interested in the case for several years. My grandparents and an aunt and uncle all live in the Springfield area (grandparents actually live in Nixa where the victim of the crime Carnahan was convicted of was from).

I know that it seems obvious to dig up the parking garage to put to rest the question of whether the three women are there, but you have to realize you're dealing with the bureaucracy and convincing them to spend the money to have this done. It's just not as simple as saying, "go dig up the parking garage." Also, the analyst who was hired, was hired by someone who is certain about this location. Unfortunately, it seems all too often that paid "experts" give the opinion that the hirer wants. Look at the differing opinions in psychiatric testimony between the defense and prosecution in cases where the accused person's mental state is called into question. However, the Disappeared episode did make it seem as if the police have a renewed interest in that location, so here's hoping that something happens soon.

Cursiorandcursior
05-15-2011, 07:40 PM
I can confirm this was featured on Unsolved Mysteries. I used to have it on tape.

Kyte
05-16-2011, 05:22 PM
I wondered about this too...

WishfulDreamer
05-17-2011, 03:00 PM
What do you guys think about the obscene phone call? Connected or just a coincidence?

Cursiorandcursior
05-18-2011, 11:48 PM
What do you guys think about the obscene phone call? Connected or just a coincidence?

Connected. I view them more as a ploy to discover when the crime scene was discovered than legitimate. After all, the perp(s) left four things undone in the haste to leave. 1) The television was left on, 2) The purses with substantial money was left behind, 3) The door was unlocked, 4) The porch globe was shattered which is when I believe in the haste to leave the other things were not attended to.

It would have been much more in the perp(s) benefits to have taken care of all four which would have delayed discovery of the crime scene. There was no other way into the home short of a key and the police wouldn't have been unduly concerned as they could have left with someone else to go whereever they wished. Had Janelle entered the home immediately in the morning, which was possible it could have immediately set off alarm bells that something was terribly wrong.

UnsolvedMFanatic
10-23-2013, 01:42 PM
Hahaha....so I too just finished watching the Disappeared episode. I too thought, and then even said out loud (to nobody), "why did UM not feature this case? Right time frame, right type of case. I wonder why they didn't?" I too went to do a search on updates, or if they ever ripped up the parking garage (like they should have). I too read "case was featured on Unsolved Mysteries". I sat straight up and "wait what?!" "Can that be possible?!" "There's no way I could have missed this, and not seen the segment.....is there?!" "No, no....it cannot be possible, it can't! I've seen them ALL 4 billion times, all of them!"

Then I saw this thread and my heart resumed normal rhythms. I knew that this was something I could have missed. I watch ID channel everyday, almost all day. I've cut back on my Unsolved Mysteries watching to about an hour, sometimes two, a day, because of the lack of segments/episodes to watch online as of the past year or so, and I've had "the ultimate collection" for quite a few years now, and have watched all of them 3 trillion times. So, needless to say, I see a ****-ton of ID shows on a daily basis. I'm always seeing cases on different shows on ID, that were covered on UM. I recognize them instantly. Selfishly, I feel offended that these shows "steal" these cases from UM, even though they do not "belong" to UM, and getting these cases out there, in any venue, could help solve unsolved cases, and spread the word about others that have resolutions, I'm just very protective of my UM. I try hard to remember this fact, but I still get irked when I see cases that were featured on UM, on different shows on ID channel. (Though, I've always wondered why ID hasn't picked up UM, I mean, they show many of the same episodes of the same shows over, and over and over again on that channel, why not grab some seasons of UM and start showing them?)

I remember no "special alert" segment on this. And I', just as familiar with "special alert" segments as all the regular segments. In fact, a "special alert" segment on UM, that briefly mentioned a couple of kidnapping cases, was how I became aware of the Christopher Abeyta case, and have over the years followed the case closely, and became a "Facebook friend" of his families FB page devoted to finding him.

So I'm all but positive that this was never, ever featured on UM. I think that sometimes, UM, and "Americas Most Wanted" (a show I never liked for some reason), get intertwined in some peoples minds. Casual watchers of both shows.

Ok, I feel better now. I'm done rambling :p

NellieBlyArmy
10-27-2013, 07:48 AM
"Air Alex" has virtually devoted its entire website to this case.

What's "Air Alex"? I found a model airplane site of that name, but I'm guessing that's not it.