View Full Version : Do you Think Emily Hartley Was A Groundbreaking TV Character?


Brian Damage
03-04-2011, 10:57 PM
Emily Hartley, 'The Bob Newhart Show' | Played by Suzanne Pleshette

If you were looking for a liberated woman in the mid-1970s on TV, but were turned off by the overly aggressive Maude, you gravatated to 'The Bob Newhart Show' and enjoyed the subtle feminine wiles of Emily Hartley. Emily was both a homemaker and a professional woman -- a teacher -- but she was not a mother. Children weren't a part of the Hartley marriage and it was a choice, not a situation. Emily and Bob were happy together as romantic grown ups in a loving relationship.

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catlover79
03-05-2011, 01:05 AM
I think so - Emily was an equal partner in the marriage and I think that's one of the first times we saw that on TV (I will also make a case for Samantha and Darrin on Bewitched). Besides, who needed kids when you had Howard Borden living next door? :lol:

Marvo301
03-05-2011, 05:15 PM
I think so - Emily was an equal partner in the marriage and I think that's one of the first times we saw that on TV (I will also make a case for Samantha and Darrin on Bewitched). Besides, who needed kids when you had Howard Borden living next door? :lol:
Your absolutely right Monika. Howard Borden was in many ways the child Bob and Emily never had! And it's also true that Emily was an equal partner in the Hartley marriage. She was on of television's first liberated married women.

PGood97041
03-07-2011, 12:16 AM
I hadn't thought about it, but if you're telling me that Emily WAS the first equal partner in a real marriage on a TV show, absolutely she was groundbreaking! (I don't count Samantha Stevens because that show, although amusing, wasn't real enough for me).

I appreciated Emily's looks, of course, but I loved her sense of humor and the way she could go right back at Bob with the verbal jabs. I got the sense Bob was always happy to head home for a variety of reasons, not just the most obvious one!

Also, great point on Howard Borden being the kid Bob and Emily never had! I think there's a lot to that!

catlover79
03-07-2011, 12:50 AM
Remember this quote from "Guaranteed Not to Shrink" (Season 4)? Bob is talking to Emily, the elementary school teacher, about an old girlfriend and how she "wasted" her potential:

Bob: She could've been anything. She gave up art to do something she could've done in her sleep. She became a school -
Emily: She became a school?! A school, Bob?
Bob: Well, she only thought she was a school. She was really a bank.

How Suzanne Pleshette got through that line without losing it is a mystery. I love it!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

tmac81s
05-19-2011, 11:05 PM
she was a great character. I love especially the episode "Don't Go to Bed Mad," where they had this agreement about that subject, and she says, "You can't go to bed, Bob." "Why not?" "Because I'm mad!"

Then they make this list of what bugs them about the other, and she is writing away while Bob can't even think of one thing, then she's like "More paper, please." lol!

There was also this rare opening sequence, where instead of Bob coming home to the apartment to find her waiting there, they meet on the street, both coming from their respective jobs. I think that opening was only used in one or two episodes.

I agree with above, Howard was like their child! it was also nice to show a married couple that didn't have kids, since that had been pretty much the norm from the beginning of TV. if they didn't have kids at the start of the show, they'd sure have some by the end of the series.

catlover79
05-19-2011, 11:34 PM
Then they make this list of what bugs them about the other, and she is writing away while Bob can't even think of one thing, then she's like "More paper, please." lol!

That was an awesome moment. :lol:

Yong Fang
05-19-2011, 11:56 PM
The writers were thinking about writing in a child for the Hartley's, but Bob Newhart vehemently said no to the idea, as in, I'll quit if you try.

It would of been a bad idea anyway, because the Hartley's were parental material. They were professional people with adult friends without kids themselves. I can't see Bob Hartley with a kid. The child would of ended up like Richie from the Dick Van Dyke show, trotted out a bit and then sent to his room forever.

catlover79
05-20-2011, 03:05 AM
The writers were thinking about writing in a child for the Hartley's, but Bob Newhart vehemently said no to the idea, as in, I'll quit if you try.

The word was that when Bob read the proposed script that had Emily announcing her pregnancy, he said, "That was great. Who are you going to get to play Bob?" His instincts were right on the money, as usual!

PGood97041
05-20-2011, 02:14 PM
I'd never heard that!
That's a fantastic story!
I agree that Bob's instincts were correct. I don't think a kid for the Hartleys would have been a jump the shark situation, but something along those lines!

catlover79
05-20-2011, 02:31 PM
Besides, like I said before, the Hartleys already had a kid - Howard Borden!! :lol:

Yong Fang
05-31-2011, 05:40 AM
The word was that when Bob read the proposed script that had Emily announcing her pregnancy, he said, "That was great. Who are you going to get to play Bob?" His instincts were right on the money, as usual!

Bob's last sitcom (George & Leo maybe?) had his character with an (adult) child. It was cancelled in less than a year.

catlover79
05-31-2011, 01:14 PM
Bob's last sitcom (George & Leo maybe?) had his character with an (adult) child. It was cancelled in less than a year.

He also had an adult daughter in his 1992-93 sitcom, Bob.

Retro4Life
05-31-2011, 02:09 PM
An unqualified "yes" to the question. Emily was a great role model and independent wife and partner for Bob; easily his equal in smarts and wisdom, and wielded just as much power in the marriage as Bob did.

PGood97041
06-02-2011, 05:09 PM
OMG, I just last weekend saw "Don't Go To Bed Mad" for the first time in about 35 years and it was as funny as I had recalled!

The "more paper, please!" line was priceless, and I also enjoyed it a scene or two later when Emily says, "Look, Bob, I'll give you 2 through 46 if you'll just give me No. 1." Meaning she'd gotten up to 46 [I think that was the number] things Bob did that made her mad!

Priceless!