View Full Version : NOW FEATURING...THE KIDNAPPER


lm
03-03-2011, 11:24 AM
So how do you feel about Wiley? Honestly, do you like him or dislike him?

That was a pretty scary situation before they met him.

I love the Howells dancing!

Hey, what's up with the MAG in this one? Maryann refuses Gilligan a dance in this super "polite" way as if she's just met him at a party. To start, she's dancing with the Professor and then she says no to Gilligan. Yeah, I know, Wiley is the "star" of the episode, but still...What did you think of this whole thing, and Gilligan's reaction. Then you have the whole "do it for me...AND for ME" thing where she's being cutesy with the Professor. No, I still don't believe in MAP but what is this stuff???

That was pretty dumb of Ginger not to reveal earlier that it didn't work in the movie. I know it allowed for the little joke at the end but would Ginger omit something so essential like that?

I thought Lovey looked pretty even with the weird hat on. Didn't you?

So did Gilligan miss his pocket knife for the rest of the series? (didn't Wiley take it?) What about the Professor's watch...does that ever reappear? But then again, what order are the episodes supposed to be in anyway? Does anyone know the solution to that mystery. Is the arrangement on our dvds reflective of the planned broadcasting sequence?

Doesn't Gilligan look a little out of it sitting at the table at the party? Do you think he's been drinking too much punch, champagne, or whatever?

I felt Gilligan's fear when he was being used as the decoy in the dark.

I do have to say that the women were very forgiving of Wiley after what he had just done to them--were they that forgiving of the other villains on the island? Maybe it was because, at this point at least, he didn't fall into the category of someone who was going to leave them there???

Teebs
04-07-2011, 11:44 AM
So how do you feel about Wiley? Honestly, do you like him or dislike him?

Disliked him intensely, even though he was played by Don Rickles. He was a sly, charming con-man (with dangerous tendencies) and they were foolish for taking him in. They'll do anything to get rescued!


Hey, what's up with the MAG in this one? Maryann refuses Gilligan a dance in this super "polite" way as if she's just met him at a party. To start, she's dancing with the Professor and then she says no to Gilligan. Yeah, I know, Wiley is the "star" of the episode, but still...What did you think of this whole thing, and Gilligan's reaction. Then you have the whole "do it for me...AND for ME" thing where she's being cutesy with the Professor. No, I still don't believe in MAP but what is this stuff???

I found that weird too. My guess is the Professor is a nice man to dance with and doesn't step on her toes. They don't smoochy-smoochy dance, it's just groovy happy dancing. Anyway, I really felt for Gilligan here because he gets to his feet and takes his hat off to ask her, I mean look at the guy, he really wants a dance. And she blows him off for Wiley. Then after she's had her dance with Wiley, the next time you see her she should be having that dance with Gilligan, right? But she's back with ol' Professor. Maybe Gilligan lost his nerve and didn't ask her again. That scene bugs me badly.

So did Gilligan miss his pocket knife for the rest of the series? (didn't Wiley take it?)

He got another one in season 3 when Agent 222 dropped his.

Doesn't Gilligan look a little out of it sitting at the table at the party? Do you think he's been drinking too much punch, champagne, or whatever?

He's probably stewing over the fact that Mary Ann wouldn't dance with him. :sarah:

I felt Gilligan's fear when he was being used as the decoy in the dark.

Gilligan's their decoy/pawn/gopher/dummy/bait for everything. Haven't they learned by now?


I do have to say that the women were very forgiving of Wiley after what he had just done to them--were they that forgiving of the other villains on the island? Maybe it was because, at this point at least, he didn't fall into the category of someone who was going to leave them there???

I agree. the guy had dangerously kidnapped them and sent everyone into a blind panic. And suddenly he's their best friend. The man was a sociopath!

old grouch
04-08-2011, 10:38 AM
When Wiley steals Mrs. Howell's necklace, Ginger's earrings, and Mr. Howell's wallet, each of them looks directly at the object while it is being stolen.

callensensei
04-08-2011, 10:38 PM
I agree with your assessment of Wiley, Teebs. He is a sly, charming con-man with dangerous tendencies - just like a certain hunter they met. I'm very glad nobody was saying "Welcome to our family" to Jonathan Kinkaid after what he'd done!

Say, do you think Tongo had dangerous tendencies too? Just what were his intentions towards Ginger, if the men hadn't found him? Why in the world did he need to kidhap her in the first place?

The women all seem to have Stockholm syndrome for Wiley. I can't get over it. Rickles gives him such a creepy veneer that it's amazing they trust him at all.

This episode contains some of the worst physical gags in the show, and it's a shame, because all they needed to do was have Bob and Alan go at it to have some great slapstick! The scene with Gilligan in the giant tree doesn't work, because there's no way he could ever stand in a trunk that heavy. And in the scene where Gilligan and the Skipper take off on the sawhorse with the boat's motor, they're not even in the water! Why are they moving at all?

Mary Ann's refusing Gilligan for the dance bugged me, too, especially since she doesn't dance with him afterwards. I do like the scene in "All About Eva" where Gilligan loses Ginger (Eva) as his partner, but Mrs. Howell immediately steps in with a "shall we?" and Gilligan looks so pleased, even though Eva quickly steals his partner!

I was really scared for Gilligan when he was bait for the kidnapper, and really proud of the Skipper when he caught Wiley. I thought, "Good for you, Skipper!"

Nice that for once, it's somebody else who gets blamed for the failed rescue. I hope somebody whomped Ginger over the head with a hat.