There are some really interesting moments on UM that really stick out as coincidences with certain cases. Here are some moments that I found really intriguing or that really caught my attention.

1) Eliot Ness segment-In this segment, RS talks about his experiences from playing Eliot Ness in his old tv show The Untouchables. This seemed like a funny coincidence how he was talking about his old show on another one of his shows.

2) James Donald King-He murdered his second wife on Sept. 11, 1988 then went on the run. The negative 23rd anniversary of 9/11/2001.

3) The Bentwaters UFO happened the day before the Cash-Landrum sighting. I have always thought there has to be a connection between the two incidents, both crafts likely coming from the same source.

4) David Cox-the relationship between this case and the film "A Few Good Men"

What are your favorite intriguing moments?

5) The night Kevin Poulson's story aired on UM, the telecenter allegedly mysterious crashed. Is this really true or a rumor?

2) James Donald King-He murdered his second wife on Sept. 11, 1988 then went on the run. The negative 23rd anniversary of 9/11/2001.


Micki Jo West also disappeared on September 11, in 1979.



Rhonda Hinson, and Roxann Jeeves and her son Kristopher were murdered on the same day: December 23, 1981.

Rogest Cain disappeared four years to the day Susan Laferte was assaulted and Doreen Picard was murdered in 1982 on February 19, 1986.

Another strange set of coincidences:

Bernice Courtemanche, a victim of the Connecticut River Valley Killer, was abducted and murdered in Newport, NH in 1984, in the exact same city--and at the exact same time--Judge John Fairbanks was scamming his probate firm clients out of millions. Very nearby in Concord, Danny Paquette would be killed one year later.

I've always found it interesting that a boatload of the unexplained death segments or missing persons took place in the state of Washington.

I've always found it interesting that a boatload of the unexplained death segments or missing persons took place in the state of Washington.


Me, too.

I watched a clip today on "you know where." I am guessing most people know about this segment, but I was not aware of the update. It was about Charles Morgan and how a new unsolved mystery tied into his killing. Just when I thought it was a two-fer, they referenced Dan Casolaro. Thought this was interesting.

Micki Jo West also disappeared on September 11, in 1979.

In addition, Micki's disappearance happened on a Tuesday, just like 9/11. And not only did her disappearance occur exactly 22 years before 9/11, but also exactly 11 years before President George Bush Sr.'s "New World Order" speech.

Karl Malden played Freddy Kassab in "Fatal Vision", the TV-movie adaptation of the Jeffrey MacDonald case, before becoming the temporary host of UM only a few years later.

For whatever reason, the town of Medford, Oregon seems to be a hotbed for fraud cases as both Steven Cox and Dennis Walker perpetuated their scams there.

The UM Alcatraz segment talked a bit about Robert Stroud, "The Birdman of Alcatraz", and made a brief mention of the film version starring Burt Lancaster. The movie also happened to star Karl Malden and was executive produced by Adam Hecht's father, Harold!

The UM Alcatraz segment talked a bit about Robert Stroud, "The Birdman of Alcatraz", and made a brief mention of the film version starring Burt Lancaster. The movie also happened to star Karl Malden and was executive produced by Adam Hecht's father, Harold!

I looked up Harold Hecht on the IMDB and was suprised to learn he died in May 1985! some 4 years before his Son went missing. Did they ever mention the Father was dead in the UM segment?

Given the Father and his lucrative producing career were both...er...dead in '89 How could the Hecht Family continue to live in such wealth?

I guess he had lot's of money invested or something. ;) :eek3:

Of the September 11 things, you can all just say that it happened on the anniversary of Salvador Allende's murder in a coup. I don't know how having those stuff happen on september 11 is interesting especially when it happened before the WTC attacks and have no relation. If something like L'Infant or the guys who tried to bomb that army general wife had happened in September 11, then I would understand.

Of the September 11 things, you can all just say that it happened on the anniversary of Salvador Allende's murder in a coup.

Of course.

I don't know how having those stuff happen on september 11 is interesting especially when it happened before the WTC attacks and have no relation. If something like L'Infant or the guys who tried to bomb that army general wife had happened in September 11, then I would understand.

We aren't trying to perpetuate any conspiracy theory here at all. September 11 is simply a day that stands out greatly in the minds of many Americans, so some of us may be more suceptible to noticing the coincidence (which is, of course, all it is--a coincidence).

I looked up Harold Hecht on the IMDB and was suprised to learn he died in May 1985! some 4 years before his Son went missing. Did they ever mention the Father was dead in the UM segment?

Given the Father and his lucrative producing career were both...er...dead in '89 How could the Hecht Family continue to live in such wealth?

I guess he had lot's of money invested or something. ;) :eek3:

No, surprisingly, they did not mention that Harold Hecht was dead during the UM segment, nor did they even say his first name, just casually mentioning that "Adam was the son of a successful Hollywood producer". Harold's last producing credit was in 1972, so I have no doubt he saved up enough money to keep his family rich for a long time. I have a hunch that Harold's death played a big hand in Adam becoming fascinated with the homeless as maybe he became disillusioned with the idea of his family living off money that his late father had earned. They were probably still receiving some hefty royalties off of Harold's movies, many of which were very successful, especially "Marty", a Best Picture Oscar winner.

The UM Alcatraz segment talked a bit about Robert Stroud, "The Birdman of Alcatraz", and made a brief mention of the film version starring Burt Lancaster. The movie also happened to star Karl Malden and was executive produced by Adam Hecht's father, Harold!

Definitely the most fascinating line of coincidences so far, I think!

the Blair Adams case, one of the most interesting cases on UM in my book, was he running from himself???? who killed him????? some people think he killed himself, well, it's (i guess) possible, but i dont think it. It could be that some guy was really out to get him or someone just did this for no reason and it wasnt the guy he feared.

We aren't trying to perpetuate any conspiracy theory here at all. September 11 is simply a day that stands out greatly in the minds of many Americans, so some of us may be more suceptible to noticing the coincidence (which is, of course, all it is--a coincidence).

Yeah I know it's special for you americans but I have to point out how it's different if it happen before. It tough to explain because they aren't days like that but it something happen in Christiams or July 4th it would be special because it's a special day. After the WTC attack anything that happens in the US in that day, it's special but before it was just a normal day (unless you're chilean). So Micky Jo West dissapearing really isn't that special, it was just a normal day for her since nothing had happened. If it something that is connected to terrorism, then it's a great coincidence and if it happens after 2001 (or even more strange on 2001), then it's strange and special. I don't know if I explained myself well.

Yeah I know it's special for you americans but I have to point out how it's different if it happen before. It tough to explain because they aren't days like that but it something happen in Christiams or July 4th it would be special because it's a special day. After the WTC attack anything that happens in the US in that day, it's special but before it was just a normal day (unless you're chilean). So Micky Jo West dissapearing really isn't that special, it was just a normal day for her since nothing had happened. If it something that is connected to terrorism, then it's a great coincidence and if it happens after 2001 (or even more strange on 2001), then it's strange and special. I don't know if I explained myself well.

You did, no problem. I understand what you're saying.

One of the UM moments that I found interesting was from the segment about the 1984 disappearance of school teacher Oliver Munson. Since the segment originally aired nearly ten years after Oliver went missing, his colleague Patrick Cisna mentioned that former students would always ask him about Oliver.

A comment like that is a sign of someone's likability, and Oliver Munson was evidently a popular teacher. It sounded to me that he had a positive impact on a lot of his students.

5) The night Kevin Poulson's story aired on UM, the telecenter allegedly mysterious crashed. Is this really true or a rumor?

I don't know, but I know Kevin used to be a phone-phreaker, so it's quite possible. He is now a white-hat and has moved on with his life. He is even a tech editor for online magazines now (he used to work for Wired, not sure where he's at now, but I still come across his articles occasionally).

I don't know how relevant or appropriate this is, but in the William Jordan case, I noticed that when they showed a family photo of James Rouse (his victim), Rouse's son (I'm assuming) has a significant facial deformity. I just felt bad for the kid; he is already dealing with that and then on top of it, his father is murdered.

I watched the NH Serial Killer segment again today (because I am a glutton for punishment) and noticed that when the surviving victim pulled into the parking lot and got out of her car, she reached up, grabbed the hood, and kind of pulled herself out of the car. It was a nice touch of realism considering she was 7 months pregnant.

Micki Jo West also disappeared on September 11, in 1979.

Pardon me for bumping up an old thread, but I discovered an interesting piece of trivia about the date of Micki's disappearance: It was the same day Dimebag Darrell's murderer, Nathan Gale, was born! :eek:

Don't know if this is "interesting" to others, but I found it pretty interesting. In the Annette Burnside segment, Stack makes a reference to "wife beating" whereas today it would be referred to as "domestic violence".

I don't know, but I know Kevin used to be a phone-phreaker, so it's quite possible. He is now a white-hat and has moved on with his life. He is even a tech editor for online magazines now (he used to work for Wired, not sure where he's at now, but I still come across his articles occasionally).

Well, if you believe the LA Times, it's true. :)

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-09-12/magazine/tm-34163_1_kevin-poulsen/6

A couple I always thought were cool...

1. On March 20, 1991, Dennis Depue saw the UM segment about his case, panicked and fled. On that same night Pat Fagan saw the preview (at the tail-end of the episode) about her case which was to be profiled the following week, panicked, and fled.

2. Glen Consagra and Thomas Drake were incarcerated in the same prison.

Also thought it was interesting that of all the Final Appeal segments, they only made Tommy Zeigler take a polygraph before they would produce a segment on him.

Also thought it was interesting that of all the Final Appeal segments, they only made Tommy Zeigler take a polygraph before they would produce a segment on him.

I wonder if it was because he was on death row.

I wonder if it was because he was on death row.

Possible. But Jeffrey MacDonald's story was even more unbelievable than Zeigler's, yet they had no problem producing a segment on him.

Unless of course Zeigler himself contacted the show whereas other final appellant's had their lawyers/supporters do it for them.

Possible. But Jeffrey MacDonald's story was even more unbelievable than Zeigler's, yet they had no problem producing a segment on him.

Unless of course Zeigler himself contacted the show whereas other final appellant's had their lawyers/supporters do it for them.

I guess my point was more in a general sense, and more in terms of the potential desperation of the appellant. Certainly a death row case is going to be more exigent, giving the appellant all the more reason to proclaim innocence. Taking it a step further, the heinous nature of the offense here might suggest severe sociopathy or psychopathy, assuming Zeigler was guilty, and perhaps they wanted to rule that out as best they could.

I guess my point is that they wanted to do due diligence in regard to a case like this.

I'm not 100% positive, but in the Joe Owens segment at the very beginning (in the reenactment), when his nephew gets the phone call it looks like the exact same bedroom as the one featured in the Patsy Wright segment.