No offense to Mary Cadorette who played Vicki, but ultimately she wasn't a right fit for Jack. I think fans rejected her from the start. Agree? Disagree?

I agree and no I don't think they should have paired up Jack and Janet. :lol: Mary was a very pretty woman...sort of like the girl next door. She was however a mediocre actress. She wasn't funny at all. They could have done much better. I think if they would have kept Richard Kline on the show, it could have helped too. Except for his one appearance , it seemed like the show totally ignored Jack's roots on TC.

The show became dull and boring with Vicki. I actually stopped watching after a while. The show was not the same.

I thought Mary Cadorette was kind of plain in Three's A Crowd but then a year or 2 later she was in "Stewardess School" and I thought she turned up the heat. It has been so many years since I have seen Stew School but I thought That Stew Mary/Vicki would have worked better in Three's A Crowd.

i agree i never warmed up to vicki i thought jack would have ended up with a fun outgoing woman not a dull stick in the mud like vicki

I think it failed because of the FATHER. Who really wanted to see Vicky's father all the time? Even on Three's Company you saw characters ike Mr. Angelino, Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley on ocassion. Not as a permanent part of the show.

I think it failed because of the FATHER. Who really wanted to see Vicky's father all the time? Even on Three's Company you saw characters ike Mr. Angelino, Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley on ocassion. Not as a permanent part of the show.i agree the father was downright irritating i like robert mandan as an actor but most of the time even when he plays pompus jerks they are still likeable but mr bradford i just wanted to puch in the face

The show failed because it was a poorly-thought concept w/ few real laughs. That's not a recipe for a successful comedy.

No single person was the cause for the failure, IMHO.

Well to me the show was very watchable and I had no problem with it. The only thing I would have changed was Vicky's father. Other than that the show was cool to me. I think it was hard for a lot of people to see Jack without the girls and Mr. Furley and to accept it wasn't Three's Company anymore

Well to me the show was very watchable and I had no problem with it. The only thing I would have changed was Vicky's father. Other than that the show was cool to me. I think it was hard for a lot of people to see Jack without the girls and Mr. Furley and to accept it wasn't Three's Company anymore
Yea the show itself wasn't bad and I think it would have gotten better if it was given a chance.

The ratings were not bad either. They should have been back for a second season instead of an eighth season of Diff'rent Strokes. Though, I liked that season of DS actually.

The ratings were not bad either. They should have been back for a second season instead of an eighth season of Diff'rent Strokes. Though, I liked that season of DS actually.
Yea if the show aired today, it would be a hit. Network ratings were different back then. I was shocked that the show was canceled becase all indications were that it was coming back.

They should had brought in Jack's former girlfriend Linda, Anne Schedeen of ALF, in as the girlfriend on TOC. She was good and funny on Three's Company especially the episode when Janet was written out.

In defense of TAC, Three's Company already started going down in the ratings the last two seasons so TAC not being a hit wasn't that big of a surprise

most spin offs a veteran show like threes company,happy days ,friends, mash don't work too well.i mean from time to time like FRASIER ,ARCHIE BUNKERS PLACE,people accept the change but its a rare thing. As i said in an earlier post
in the case of threes a crowd if JANET or TERRY or if some how CHRISSY could
have cameoed or guest shotted like LARRY did it may have went another year.After watching a majority of the THREES a Crowd eps.john ritter appeared
to be getting tired of jack tripper you could see it,i mean he was still really funny in some of them but the energy he used in Threes Company was gone.

most spin offs a veteran show like threes company,happy days ,friends, mash don't work too well.i mean from time to time like FRASIER ,ARCHIE BUNKERS PLACE,people accept the change but its a rare thing. As i said in an earlier post
in the case of threes a crowd if JANET or TERRY or if some how CHRISSY could
have cameoed or guest shotted like LARRY did it may have went another year.After watching a majority of the THREES a Crowd eps.john ritter appeared
to be getting tired of jack tripper you could see it,i mean he was still really funny in some of them but the energy he used in Threes Company was gone.


I think guest appearances by Janet or Furley or Terri or Larry would have got the show off to a good start but not maintain high ratings throughout the season.

I think guest appearances by Janet or Furley or Terri or Larry would have got the show off to a good start but not maintain high ratings throughout the season.


Cameo appearances/crossovers are never intended to MAINTAIN ratings, just to bring about initial attention...give viewers a chance to see what they've been missing. Beyond that, it's up to the show to maintain the attention.

I don't entirely agree with the statement about John Ritter's fatigue with the role of Jack Tripper as a reason for his sedate performance. I feel the lack of a good story gave him no room to work his magic.

I wouldn't use the fact that the last 2 seasons of Three's Company dropping in ratings as a reason to count out Three's a Crowd. It might have never realized the same heights TC did, but it could have breathed new interest & life into the story by starting over completely in a new chapter. Problem is, it was mishandled in several ways:

So, my reasons as to why that show didn't live up to it's potential:
1) the writing was very "phoned-in",
2) they removed everything familiar from Jack Tripper's world, places, people, and replaced it by downsizing his whole world to 2 floors of one little building and 3 other characters. The scenery/people almost never changed.
3) As a result of narrowing Jack's world so greatly, this limited the story possibilities drastically. Part of what made TC so interesting (besides the funny double-entendre "misunderstandings") was that the show was filled with a wide variety of supporting characters who served as interesting antagonists to the main characters, though more Jack than anyone else.
4) as pretty as Mary Cadorette is, I believe she was miscast as Jack's love interest, from her lack of chemistry with him to the manner of her character; she's much too boring and uptight. I think that perhaps the writer's idea was to make her the straight-man role to offset Jack's wackiness, but that's definitely not how it worked out because all she seemed to care about working her job and settling down. She had nothing in her to bring that out.
5) If anything, her character made him more "subdued". Jack became a "steer" after settling down with Vicky if you know what I mean lol. Even Larry, in his only cameo appearance, made fun of how "domesticated" he's become. I think it would've been very interesting to have an ex-girlfriend of Jack's to show up and try to win him back, or maybe even a friend of Vicky lol. Maybe it would've been just the thing to take the starch out of Vicky's skirt lol
6) Vicky's father never let up on poor Jack, and after so long, that got a little hard to watch.


Do I think that Jack's character should've paired off with Janet? I think it would've been a better idea. Look at how well the two interacted as friends!
She helped bring out the Jack Tripper we loved most.

Cameo appearances/crossovers are never intended to MAINTAIN ratings, just to bring about initial attention...give viewers a chance to see what they've been missing. Beyond that, it's up to the show to maintain the attention.

I don't entirely agree with the statement about John Ritter's fatigue with the role of Jack Tripper as a reason for his sedate performance. I feel the lack of a good story gave him no room to work his magic.

I wouldn't use the fact that the last 2 seasons of Three's Company dropping in ratings as a reason to count out Three's a Crowd. It might have never realized the same heights TC did, but it could have breathed new interest & life into the story by starting over completely in a new chapter. Problem is, it was mishandled in several ways:

So, my reasons as to why that show didn't live up to it's potential:
1) the writing was very "phoned-in",
2) they removed everything familiar from Jack Tripper's world, places, people, and replaced it by downsizing his whole world to 2 floors of one little building and 3 other characters. The scenery/people almost never changed.
3) As a result of narrowing Jack's world so greatly, this limited the story possibilities drastically. Part of what made TC so interesting (besides the funny double-entendre "misunderstandings") was that the show was filled with a wide variety of supporting characters who served as interesting antagonists to the main characters, though more Jack than anyone else.
4) as pretty as Mary Cadorette is, I believe she was miscast as Jack's love interest, from her lack of chemistry with him to the manner of her character; she's much too boring and uptight. I think that perhaps the writer's idea was to make her the straight-man role to offset Jack's wackiness, but that's definitely not how it worked out because all she seemed to care about working her job and settling down. She had nothing in her to bring that out.
5) If anything, her character made him more "subdued". Jack became a "steer" after settling down with Vicky if you know what I mean lol. Even Larry, in his only cameo appearance, made fun of how "domesticated" he's become. I think it would've been very interesting to have an ex-girlfriend of Jack's to show up and try to win him back, or maybe even a friend of Vicky lol. Maybe it would've been just the thing to take the starch out of Vicky's skirt lol
6) Vicky's father never let up on poor Jack, and after so long, that got a little hard to watch.


Do I think that Jack's character should've paired off with Janet? I think it would've been a better idea. Look at how well the two interacted as friends!
She helped bring out the Jack Tripper we loved most.


If Janet paired off with jack then it would have still been called Three's Company

If Janet paired off with jack then it would have still been called Three's Company

So?

So?


One has nothing to do with the other. he was with Vicky on a new show, if he paird with janet then it wouldn't have been no TAC

In the end, the real reason that TAC failed was because it couldn't compete with The A-Team. I don't think anything they could have done would have changed that. TC was a tired show and pairing Jack and Janet together wouldn't have helped. Maybe they should have just done a final 9th season of TC and ended it in style.

I'm surprised ABC decided to do the show since the last two seasons of Three's Company were not that good in the ratings. Usually when a spinoff is created it's because the PARENT show is kicking a$$ in the ratings.

I'm surprised ABC decided to do the show since the last two seasons of Three's Company were not that good in the ratings. Usually when a spinoff is created it's because the PARENT show is kicking a$$ in the ratings.

I would think ABC did it because they believed in John Ritter.
Not only his ability but his overall well received persona.

And as such they should have given him more to work with.

I would think ABC did it because they believed in John Ritter.
Not only his ability but his overall well received persona.

And as such they should have given him more to work with.


Well if that was true they would have gave him one more season to see if it was a improvement

Well if that was true they would have gave him one more season to see if it was a improvement

Maybe the overhaul that was needed was too much.

And basically they had no patience.

Maybe the overhaul that was needed was too much.

And basically they had no patience.


I still think it was the father that made people not watch. In real life no man would have tolerated being around his girl's father all the time

I still think it was the father that made people not watch. In real life no man would have tolerated being around his girl's father all the time

And that was the sitcom death of the show.
They made the father the foil - too close and too ever-present.
(completely different scenario on Too Close For Comfort, thanks)

It's pretty short sighted to think that when Jack finally settled that the audience would be ok with her dad thwarting his efforts.
Beyond creepy, it's like, give this guy a break.

An antagonist like Felipe or some other force would make sense.

And that was the sitcom death of the show.
They made the father the foil - too close and too ever-present.
(completely different scenario on Too Close For Comfort, thanks)

It's pretty short sighted to think that when Jack finally settled that the audience would be ok with her dad thwarting his efforts.
Beyond creepy, it's like, give this guy a break.

An antagonist like Felipe or some other force would make sense.


I would have told her either tell your father to stay away or this relationship is oVer LOL

I think it failed because of the FATHER. Who really wanted to see Vicky's father all the time? Even on Three's Company you saw characters ike Mr. Angelino, Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley on ocassion. Not as a permanent part of the show.

What R U talking about dude?? Roper and Furley were permanent recurring characters and appeared in most every episode!

What R U talking about dude?? Roper and Furley were permanent recurring characters and appeared in most every episode!


Mr. Furley and Stanley were LANDLORDS and had a reason to be around. Why did we need to see jack's girlfriend Dad all the time if it wasn't a special ocassion?

Mr. Furley and Stanley were LANDLORDS and had a reason to be around. Why did we need to see jack's girlfriend Dad all the time if it wasn't a special ocassion?

Mr.Bradford was a LANDLORD too!

Mr.Bradford was a LANDLORD too!


Not the type of landlord that Furley was

Not the type of landlord that Furley was

Mr. Bradford added conflict. If he wasn't there, it would be a bit too plain. Jack needed a foil and the father (of the daughter with whom Jack was shacked up without marriage) was perfect. The show just didn't appeal to me.

Mr. Bradford added conflict. If he wasn't there, it would be a bit too plain. Jack needed a foil and the father (of the daughter with whom Jack was shacked up without marriage) was perfect. The show just didn't appeal to me.

They just finished showing all 22 epsidoes of TAC on Antenna TV.

You can see some glaring differences between this show and TC. First of all, Jack wasn't anywhere near the klutz that he was on TC.

Secondly, Jack didn't get involved in all those mix ups that he did on TC.

I definitely preferred Janet over Vicki but I don't think it would've made THAT much of a difference. It could've lasted 2 seasons instead of 1!

Mr. Bradford added conflict. If he wasn't there, it would be a bit too plain. Jack needed a foil and the father (of the daughter with whom Jack was shacked up without marriage) was perfect. The show just didn't appeal to me.


But how often would someone had put up with seeing his girlfriend's dad? He should have made ocassional appearances like Furley. Bradford was in every episode:lol:

But how often would someone had put up with seeing his girlfriend's dad? He should have made ocassional appearances like Furley. Bradford was in every episode:lol:

That's because he owned their apartment AND restaurant. He was always around being a pain in the butt to Jack and Vicki...LOL

That's because he owned their apartment AND restaurant. He was always around being a pain in the butt to Jack and Vicki...LOL


The situation for this show was ODD and was set up to fail. A grown man putting up with her girlfriend's father constantly coming to the house without calling.

The situation for this show was ODD and was set up to fail. A grown man putting up with her girlfriend's father constantly coming to the house without calling.


It can work. Mother Jefferson did it. LOL.

It can work. Mother Jefferson did it. LOL.


Which is why I'm not a fan if season 2:lol:

Which is why I'm not a fan if season 2:lol:


Told ya. It's a formula that works and has been used on many TV shows.

Told ya. It's a formula that works and has been used on many TV shows.


It should have been Jack/Vicky and another young couple they became friends with

It can work. Mother Jefferson did it. LOL.

Mother Jefferson was awesome! Best senior citizen actress ever!

To me a big part of the problem with Three's a Crowd, is that, for the second time around, the writers tried to take a Brittish spin-off and transplant it, with some tweaking, onto an American cast. They made that mistake with the Ropers (based on the Brittish spin-off "George and Mildred"), and then they tried to recreate "Robin's Nest" by bring in some random actress who had zero chemistry with John Ritter. In the Brittish series they brought the lead actors real-life girlfriend on board to play Vicky. They had a natural chemistry that helped carry the show through a six-series run. It leads one to wonder . . . should they have cast Nancy Morgan as Vicky? She was an actress, too, and she was really cute back in the day, much prettier than Mary Cadorette. It worked with Lucille Ball and Gracy Allen, so why not?

http://static3.imagecollect.com/preview/560/bcdb1c54d29c31e

I think if given more seasons TAC would've gotten better, it's obvious during the latter half of the season they're introducing newer supporting characters like the heavyset neighbor Herbert who mysteriously disappears right afterwards.

And as I read somewhere the character of Stuart Pankin who was the smarmy commercial director in the final episode was being considered as a cast regular had TAC been picked up for a 2nd season.

To me a big part of the problem with Three's a Crowd, is that, for the second time around, the writers tried to take a Brittish spin-off and transplant it, with some tweaking, onto an American cast. They made that mistake with the Ropers (based on the Brittish spin-off "George and Mildred"), and then they tried to recreate "Robin's Nest" by bring in some random actress who had zero chemistry with John Ritter. In the Brittish series they brought the lead actors real-life girlfriend on board to play Vicky. They had a natural chemistry that helped carry the show through a six-series run. It leads one to wonder . . . should they have cast Nancy Morgan as Vicky? She was an actress, too, and she was really cute back in the day, much prettier than Mary Cadorette. It worked with Lucille Ball and Gracy Allen, so why not?

http://static3.imagecollect.com/preview/560/bcdb1c54d29c31e



She looks like Vicky

I agree and no I don't think they should have paired up Jack and Janet. :lol: Mary was a very pretty woman...sort of like the girl next door. She was however a mediocre actress. She wasn't funny at all. They could have done much better. I think if they would have kept Richard Kline on the show, it could have helped too. Except for his one appearance , it seemed like the show totally ignored Jack's roots on TC.

What I would have done with this show (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086816/board/flat/188690973?p=1)

What I would have done with this show (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086816/board/flat/188690973?p=1)
You can't have a show with Jack and Janet and have it be a sequel. It would be just the 9th season of TC.

Well let's be clear here, the A-Team was the hottest show on television at that time.

It didn't matter if John Ritter was in it (these things happen), situations and ideas and spin-off's will all derail.

At it's peak, "The A-Team" was unstoppable.

ABC never even bothered to move the show into a another time-slot on a different night.

Well let's be clear here, the A-Team was the hottest show on television at that time.

It didn't matter if John Ritter was in it (these things happen), situations and ideas and spin-off's will all derail.

At it's peak, "The A-Team" was unstoppable.

ABC never even bothered to move the show into a another time-slot on a different night.
Nope and ratings did improve late in the year. WTB suffered the same ratings as TAC but ABC gave it time and the following year it was a hit. Considering how big of a hit the A-Team was, TAC didn't do that bad.

It was a flop and finished below the top 30.

It finished around 38. A few of the later episodes were in the top 30 though. The one that Richard Kline guest starred on was at #21.

Also if you look at the entire ABC lineup outside of Wednesdays, all of their shows were struggling. That was the year ABC fell hard into 3rd place.

It finished around 38. A few of the later episodes were in the top 30 though. The one that Richard Kline guest starred on was at #21.

Also if you look at the entire ABC lineup outside of Wednesdays, all of their shows were struggling. That was the year ABC fell hard into 3rd place.

So, Three's a Crowd (minus Dynasty & ABC) never went with a 2nd season because ____ ?

So, Three's a Crowd (minus Dynasty & ABC) never went with a 2nd season because ____ ?
They probably felt the show had no room for growth. They probably thought that people were just tired of the character of Jack Tripper. When you look at the ratings ABC only had 3 shows in the top 25 and all of those were on Wednesday. WTB which came on right before TAC ended the season at 35 I believe. It picked up steam that summer and became a top 10 hit. TAC was replaced by Growing Pains and that became a big hit. I think another season might have helped it. At one time it was reported that the show would be renewed but then ABC decided to pick up Diff'rent Strokes from NBC which was a big mistake. I also heard that ABC offered to give TAC a second season but for only 13 episodes but John refused.

You can't have a show with Jack and Janet and have it be a sequel. It would be just the 9th season of TC.


Yup, the 9th season with Larry, Terri, and Furley lol

Here's a thread that I started in the Three's Company boards several years ago:
Why Did 'Three's a Crowd' Fail (Last One Season)? (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=283872)

So it should have ended with the room mates just saying goodbye?

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I don't think she's the main reason the show failed, but I think she was pityful as Vickie. I can see why she didn't do much after "Three's A Crowd."

I don't think she's the main reason the show failed, but I think she was pityful as Vickie. I can see why she didn't do much after "Three's A Crowd."


that pic in your avatar, what type of event was that?

The whole concept of Jack Tripper living with this girl right off the bat she just seemed off. What I mean is that is that she seemed kind of bossy and controlling. For example, she did not want to get married but instead, wanted this sort of friends with benefits relationship. Plus, she must've known that Jack was too trusting and forgiving. That's how she knew she had the upper hand and played to many head games at the same time.

Even so, Vicky wasn't exactly Jack Tripper's type at all. Jack was constantly chasing after hot pants clad California girls like Chrissy throughout Three's Company. Not once in the entire run of Three's Company did he ever bring home anyone who remotely looked or acted like Vicky. She came out of nowhere to find this series. Secondly, she's way too conservative for Jack from her clothing style (https://moviechat.org/tt0086816/Threes-a-Crowd/58c740e56b51e905f66e53f4/Vicky-was-dressed-by-her-worst-enemy) to her hair style.

Granted, you can argue that it was supposed to be exactly the point of Three's a Crowd. Jack finally fell in love for good with someone more mature and wasn't just chasing around bimbos anymore. But on the same token, Jack had to understand and agree to the situation between Vicky, her father and that landlord situation.

The whole concept of Jack Tripper living with this girl right off the bat she just seemed off. What I mean is that is that she seemed kind of bossy and controlling. For example, she did not want to get married but instead, wanted this sort of friends with benefits relationship. Plus, she must've known that Jack was too trusting and forgiving. That's how she knew she had the upper hand and played to many head games at the same time.

Even so, Vicki wasn't exactly Jack Tripper's type at all. Jack was constantly chasing after hot pants clad California girls like Chrissy throughout Three's Company. Not once in the entire run of Three's Company did he ever bring home anyone who remotely looked or acted like Vicky. She came out of nowhere to found this series. Second, she's way too conservative for Jack from her clothing style to her hair style.

Granted, you can argue that it was supposed to be exactly the point of Three's a Crow. Jack finally fell in love for good with someone more mature and wasn't just chasing around bimbos anymore. But on the same token, Jack had to understand and agree to the situation between Vicky, her father and that landlord situation.


It's interesting to hear that you thought Vicki was bossy and controlling, because I thought she was a total pushover! :lol: I think she was a more conservative type of girl because by that time the characters were in their 30s and both Jack and the women he chased were more mature. By the end of Three's Company Janet and Terri were much more "grown-up" than Season 1 Janet and Chrissy. And Jack's more serious girlfriends on Three's Company (like Linda and the older woman) were more conservative and professional and not as hot-pantsy.

Also it it was mid-80s by the time TAC came on---the Reagan era. Everything was shifting to more conservative norms, esp on television sitcoms.

The show failed because of Vicky's father

He was not needed at all

The show failed because of Vicky's father

He was not needed at all


Agreed.

she did not want to get married but instead, wanted this sort of friends with benefits relationship.

It wasn't friends with benefits. It was an exclusive, romantic relationship. She just didn't want to put a ring on it.

Secondly, she's way too conservative for Jack from her clothing style to her hair style.

That was an 80s thing. Clothes (and hair) were large and the "businesswoman" look was in. I suggested on another thread that 80s fashions killed TC. When Janet and Terri converted to the new look (and you could no longer tell if Terri was braless), the shows ratings tanked almost overnight.

Granted, you can argue that it was supposed to be exactly the point of Three's a Crowd. Jack finally fell in love for good with someone more mature and wasn't just chasing around bimbos anymore.

No, the point of TAC was that the unimaginative folks at DLT expected to replicate the success of Robin's Nest at a low cost by using the same scripts, ignoring the myriad differences between the circumstances. The most notable difference was that Man About the House was at the height of its popularity when it ended, and it's audience was eager for a sequel. TC had fallen off the radar by the end of its 8th season.

It wasn't friends with benefits. It was an exclusive, romantic relationship. She just didn't want to put a ring on it.



That was an 80s thing. Clothes (and hair) were large and the "businesswoman" look was in. I suggested on another thread that 80s fashions killed TC. When Janet and Terri converted to the new look (and you could no longer tell if Terri was braless), the shows ratings tanked almost overnight.



No, the point of TAC was that the unimaginative folks at DLT expected to replicate the success of Robin's Nest at a low cost by using the same scripts, ignoring the myriad differences between the circumstances. The most notable difference was that Man About the House was at the height of its popularity when it ended, and it's audience was eager for a sequel. TC had fallen off the radar by the end of its 8th season.


Correct, FWB is someone you see every so often not someone you living with

I think it was doomed from the start when you see them in bedroom together and her dad show's up in the last episode of TC.

That wasn't funny at all but quite rude and just downright disturbing and oddly dysfunctional.

On another note I was watching the last episode again last night and have to say it was still sad watching it today and actually doubly sad since it reminded me of good times in my childhood.

The father was unlikable

Agreed.

I'm guessing that the producers felt that they needed another older, more conservative antagonist character for Jack (much like Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley on Three's Company), hence his live-in girlfriend's meddling father.

My feeling is the whole show was over because it ended abruptly with too many changes. You cannot have years of loving the characters as they are, living together and the relationships they shared and then in one episode it is all gone. They mysteriously fall in love with strangers and their whole lives change just like that, getting married, living together and starting new lives. We miss the relationships that they had and wish would never end. When it does end, it's depressing, a whole new show and people don't want to get comfortable with it.

Gail Edwards (Dot on It's a Living (https://web.archive.org/web/20110712062019/http://gailedwards.com:80/living.htm), Vicky on Full House, Six's mom on Blossom) claims that the producers originally wanted her for the Vicky role on Three's A Crowd. But John Ritter had final say and he wanted Mary Cadorette.

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My feeling is the whole show was over because it ended abruptly with too many changes. You cannot have years of loving the characters as they are, living together and the relationships they shared and then in one episode it is all gone. They mysteriously fall in love with strangers and their whole lives change just like that, getting married, living together and starting new lives. We miss the relationships that they had and wish would never end. When it does end, it's depressing, a whole new show and people don't want to get comfortable with it.

Maybe Three's A Crowd could've had a sliver of better chance at succeeding had there been more of a slow build. Janet's fiance Phillip isn't introduced until the third to last episode in the series, "The Heiress" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Three%27s_Company_episodes). Meanwhile, Vicky and her father aren't introduced until the second to last episode, "Cupid Works Overtime". And the final episode had to rush through things so that it can wrap up Three's Company and set up Three's A Crowd. If you've never watched Three's A Crowd, watching the final episode of Three's Company is a weird experience because without that particular context, there really isn't any true "closure" at least for Jack. And it just makes you wonder what is so special about Vicky even though she doesn't want to marry him and he has to put up with her obnoxious father?

Maybe Three's A Crowd could've had a sliver of better chance at succeeding had there been more of a slow build. Janet's fiance Phillip isn't introduced until the third to last episode in the series, "The Heiress" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Three%27s_Company_episodes). Meanwhile, Vicky and her father aren't introduced until the second to last episode, "Cupid Works Overtime". And the final episode had to rush through things so that it can wrap up Three's Company and set up Three's A Crowd. If you've never watched Three's A Crowd, watching the final episode of Three's Company is a weird experience because without that particular context, there really isn't any true "closure" at least for Jack. And it just makes you wonder what is so special about Vicky even though she doesn't want to marry him and he has to put up with her obnoxious father?

who the hell is Vicky

I don’t know why John Ritter decided to do “Three’s A Crowd”. In my opinion, audiences were growing tired of the Jack Tripper character. Plus, he didn't have much chemistry with co-star Mary Cadorrete. According to Wikipedia, ABC was reluctant to cancel TAC despite its mediocre ratings, so they approached Ritter with an offer to renew it for half-season of 13 episodes. Ritter replied that the network either renew the series for a full season or cancel it. So ABC pulled the plug.

It's interesting to hear that you thought Vicki was bossy and controlling, because I thought she was a total pushover! :lol: I think she was a more conservative type of girl because by that time the characters were in their 30s and both Jack and the women he chased were more mature. By the end of Three's Company Janet and Terri were much more "grown-up" than Season 1 Janet and Chrissy. And Jack's more serious girlfriends on Three's Company (like Linda and the older woman) were more conservative and professional and not as hot-pantsy.

Also it it was mid-80s by the time TAC came on---the Reagan era. Everything was shifting to more conservative norms, esp on television sitcoms.

Another factor I feel that caused the decline of Three's a Crowd was the arrival of The Cosby Show on NBC. I say this because I feel that when The Cosby Show arrived, it heavily changed how people wanted to view sitcoms, in that viewers now wanted sitcoms to be smarter, wittier, and overall, more down-to-earth and realistic. The sitcom farcical humor of the '70s for which Three's Company had specialized in had pretty much gone out of style thanks to The Cosby Show's presence.

I bet they threw a lot of dough at John to keep playing the role of Tripper, but the new show was too unfamiliar for viewers. It just wasn't funny the way TC had been. I agree that the father was too overbearing for many; even nosey neighbor Mrs. Kravitz from Bewitched was likeable once in awhile.

It failed because it was season 9 of Three's Company without

Janet
terri
Mr. Furley
Larry

It wasn't friends with benefits. It was an exclusive, romantic relationship. She just didn't want to put a ring on it.



That was an 80s thing. Clothes (and hair) were large and the "businesswoman" look was in. I suggested on another thread that 80s fashions killed TC. When Janet and Terri converted to the new look (and you could no longer tell if Terri was braless), the shows ratings tanked almost overnight.



No, the point of TAC was that the unimaginative folks at DLT expected to replicate the success of Robin's Nest at a low cost by using the same scripts, ignoring the myriad differences between the circumstances. The most notable difference was that Man About the House was at the height of its popularity when it ended, and it's audience was eager for a sequel. TC had fallen off the radar by the end of its 8th season.

Somebody on the old IMDb forums commented (https://moviechat.org/tt0086816/Threes-a-Crowd/58c740e56b51e905f66e53f4/Vicky-was-dressed-by-her-worst-enemy) on how unflattering a dresser Vicky Bradford was. I mean she dressed conservatively and business like, but it was also very unappealing, "stiff", and generally unstylish.

Somebody on the old IMDb forums commented (https://moviechat.org/tt0086816/Threes-a-Crowd/58c740e56b51e905f66e53f4/Vicky-was-dressed-by-her-worst-enemy) on how unflattering a dresser Vicky Bradford was. I mean she dressed conservatively and business like, but it was also very unappealing and unstylish.

well she was a plain jane and that's the vibe they wanted the character to give off

In the end, the real reason that TAC failed was because it couldn't compete with The A-Team. I don't think anything they could have done would have changed that. TC was a tired show and pairing Jack and Janet together wouldn't have helped. Maybe they should have just done a final 9th season of TC and ended it in style.

According to news articles of the time (according to the "Boston Globe," "New York Times," "Philadelphia Inquirer," and "Providence Journal" as well as the Canadian publications "The Gazette" in Montreal and "The Globe and Mail" in Toronto), this show finished higher in the ratings than Miami Vice during the 1984-85 season. What's more, it had about the same popularity of Who's the Boss? Interesting, when you consider how long those other two survived. Also, Three's a Crowd began its run with decent ratings (one of ABC's few modest successes that season), yet after showing initial promise (September-October 1984) was already considered for the chopping-block within a few months (February-March 1985).

On the flip-side, ABC was really struggling at that time and John Ritter was making a lot of money ($100,000 per episode). Still, when the show finished taping in February 1985, plans were to begin work on it again that August. But as the story goes, John Ritter turned down ABC's offer of a half-season renewal is the reason it did not last.

According to news articles of the time (according to the "Boston Globe," "New York Times," "Philadelphia Inquirer," and "Providence Journal" as well as the Canadian publications "The Gazette" in Montreal and "The Globe and Mail" in Toronto), this show finished higher in the ratings than Miami Vice during the 1984-85 season. What's more, it had about the same popularity of Who's the Boss. Interesting, when you consider how long those other two survived. Also, Three's a Crowd began it's run with decent ratings (one of ABC's few modest successes that season), yet after showing initial promise (September-October 1984) was already considered for the chopping-block within a few months (February-March 1985).

On the flip-side, ABC was really struggling at that time and John Ritter was making a lot of money ($100,000 per episode). Still, when the show finished taping in February, 1985, plans were to begin work on it again that August. But as the story goes, John Ritter turned down ABC's offer of a half-season renewal is the reason it did not last.


Not sure why the expectations was so high since TC itself was no longer a top ten show

Miami Vice was a critically acclaimed show that was in its first season (it also aired at a later hour when viewership was lower). NBC was willing to nurture it. “Who’s the Boss” also had a creative spark and ABC was willing to be patient with it.

“Three’s a Crowd” was a tired retooling of a show, “Three’s Company”, that was also tired. There was no reason to believe that the ratings would grow over time (unlike the other two shows you mentioned). Creatively, the show wasn’t good; the new supporting cast simply didn’t work. You can bet that ABC took all of this into account when they decided on the show’s fate.

I will always believe the show would have done better if it wasn't no permanent Mr. Bradford around

Certainly it would have been better had his role been smaller. And if they had cast a female lead who had chemistry with John Ritter and had more charisma. Vicky was so dull and unfunny.

Certainly it would have been better had his role been smaller. And if they had cast a female lead who had chemistry with John Ritter and had more charisma. Vicky was so dull and unfunny.

They were probably trying to attract a older audience which was a mistake.

Certainly it would have been better had his role been smaller. And if they had cast a female lead who had chemistry with John Ritter and had more charisma. Vicky was so dull and unfunny.



I don't agree with any of this statement.

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I don't agree with any of this statement.


why?

I don't know how to properly explain it given that while I was around when Three's A Crowd was originally running, I was still a tad bit young. But anyway, thus anybody here feel that the whole premise around Vicky not wanting to get married was a huge turn-off in the 1980s and today?

I don't know how to properly explain it given that while I was around when Three's A Crowd was originally running, I was still a tad bit young. But anyway, thus anybody here feel that the whole premise around Vicky not wanting to get married was a huge turn-off in the 1980s and today?

Not really. I thought she had a good reason in which she explained in Friends and Lovers. She would have eventually asked Jack to marry her according to what I read.

why?



Because I thought Jack and Vicky ( John & Mary) had great chemistry together.
And she had great timing ( she did a couple of years of stage) with John. And John Ritter thought so too.

Not really. I thought she had a good reason in which she explained in Friends and Lovers. She would have eventually asked Jack to marry her according to what I read.
They were supposed to get married in the second season premiere.

Because I thought Jack and Vicky ( John & Mary) had great chemistry together.
And she had great timing ( she did a couple of years of stage) with John.
I don’t agree with any of this.:lol:

Well John won the Emmy for the episode " When Cupid Works Overtime" . Since most of his scenes were opposite Mary Cadorette, I'd say that works in their favor.

Somebody on the old IMDb forums commented (https://moviechat.org/tt0086816/Threes-a-Crowd/58c740e56b51e905f66e53f4/Vicky-was-dressed-by-her-worst-enemy) on how unflattering a dresser Vicky Bradford was. I mean she dressed conservatively and business like, but it was also very unappealing, "stiff", and generally unstylish.

Coming from someone who grew up in the 80's women back then dressed a whole lot better than they do today. I wish women would start dressing that way again instead wearing these old worn out looking jeans with holes in them along with these nasty looking tattoos all over their bodies. That is a real turn off for me personally.

Sorry to sound misogynist. I don't care too much for the way most women dress and present these days. Women were more classy looking back in the 80's.

Coming from someone who grew up in the 80's women back then dressed a whole lot better than they do today. I wish women would start dressing that way again instead wearing these old worn out looking jeans with holes in them along with these nasty looking tattoos all over their bodies. That is a real turn off for me personally.

Sorry to sound misogynist. I don't care too much for the way most women dress and present these days. Women were more classy looking back in the 80's.

I agree with this.

I dont think it was entirely the Vicki character that killed the show but was part of it. The show was a cheap rip off of Threes Company. The last few seasons of Threes Company were not great so a spin off was the wrong thing to do. I found the Vicki character plastic and had no depth. She loved Jack but had no vulnerability as a human. She let her dad come in and be the foil in their life. It just was a stale set up. Even the Jack character because a caricature of his original self from the early days of Threes Company.

I dont think it was entirely the Vicki character that killed the show but was part of it. The show was a cheap rip off of Threes Company. The last few seasons of Threes Company were not great so a spin off was the wrong thing to do. I found the Vicki character plastic and had no depth. She loved Jack but had no vulnerability as a human. She let her dad come in and be the foil in their life. It just was a stale set up. Even the Jack character because a caricature of his original self from the early days of Threes Company.

False, all the seasons of TC were great aside from a few eps in season 8 like the tattoo episode

False, all the seasons of TC were great aside from a few eps in season 8 like the tattoo episode
Wonderful. That's your opinion. I still watch those seasons but most of the episodes are not great. The entire premise of the show was gone with 3 struggling roommates living together trying to make it. Jack owned a restaurant, Terri was a nurse, etc. Threes Company had the best slapstick since I love Lucy. By these later seasons it was as dumb as the rest of the other sitcoms that lasted 2 seasons at most.

I dont think it was entirely the Vicki character that killed the show but was part of it. The show was a cheap rip off of Threes Company. The last few seasons of Threes Company were not great so a spin off was the wrong thing to do. I found the Vicki character plastic and had no depth. She loved Jack but had no vulnerability as a human. She let her dad come in and be the foil in their life. It just was a stale set up. Even the Jack character because a caricature of his original self from the early days of Threes Company.

The female lead was going to be critical to the success of this series and Mary Cadorette was in over her head, but I agree with you in the sense that it was not her fault. In a sense it wasn't even the producer's fault, they needed Ritter in the lead role so Ritter had a great deal of control over who was cast in the role of Vicki. Ritter wanted to be "the" star of the series so rather than casting a strong female lead they went with the inexperienced Cadorette. Thus, the series became a continuation of the mother series with the two roommates replaced by one girlfriend with little new to offer the audience.

Wonderful. That's your opinion. I still watch those seasons but most of the episodes are not great. The entire premise of the show was gone with 3 struggling roommates living together trying to make it. Jack owned a restaurant, Terri was a nurse, etc. Threes Company had the best slapstick since I love Lucy. By these later seasons it was as dumb as the rest of the other sitcoms that lasted 2 seasons at most.

I agree with you about the Bistro. The Bistro should have come once TAC started because it didnt make sense for him to have his own restaurant and still sharing an apt

I agree with you about the Bistro. The Bistro should have come once TAC started because it didnt make sense for him to have his own restaurant and still sharing an apt
Threes Company is not alone that once the sitcom goes beyond 4 and 5 seasons the writing gets dumb and the characters change. Threes Company also was a mid 70s sitcom that went into the glam 80s. It was hard to keep the characters the same. Janet used to have patches on her jeans and in the last few seasons she had designer dresses and fancy hair.
The first 5 seasons I watch because they are funny. The last few seasons I watch because they are so dumb its fun to watch the stupidity. Besides Jack's Tattoo, the episode "Look what I found" just recycled a script from season 1. Instead of a dog, it was a cat. Grandma Jack is one of the few episodes in season 8 that I like. I like She loves me, she loves me not but after 8 years how could there be secret romance between the roommates. It just was so stale. In the last episode Janet asks Terri if Jack ever made a pass at her and she says no. Then Terri asks Jane the same question and she says no. Then they giggle and say they wish it had happened. OMG they dont remember the countless times it happened under the misunderstood set ups?

Even season 7 is really dumb. I think the dumbest episode is the one where Janet and Terri trick Jack to think he won a radio contest because they thought Jack was too humble to accept their money. The entire premise makes no sense and the execution is just plain dumb.

I dont think it was entirely the Vicki character that killed the show but was part of it. The show was a cheap rip off of Threes Company. The last few seasons of Threes Company were not great so a spin off was the wrong thing to do. I found the Vicki character plastic and had no depth. She loved Jack but had no vulnerability as a human. She let her dad come in and be the foil in their life. It just was a stale set up. Even the Jack character because a caricature of his original self from the early days of Threes Company.

The Vicky character didn't make up for the loss of Janet, Terri, Mr. Furley, and Larry. She was dry and boring, and didn't have much on-screen chemistry with Jack.

I agree with you about the Bistro. The Bistro should have come once TAC started because it didnt make sense for him to have his own restaurant and still sharing an apt

Or an automobile or money saved in a bank. Come on Jack!

And Terry working double shift taking the bus or cabs to work. I understand the wanting to share an apartment, but not owning a car.

Or an automobile or money saved in a bank. Come on Jack!

And Terry working double shift taking the bus or cabs to work. I understand the wanting to share an apartment, but not owning a car.

I would have hoped they would have moved out of that apt if there was a season 2:lol:

I would have hoped they would have moved out of that apt if there was a season 2:lol:
Well they were going to get married. That had already been agreed on. Hopefully they would have done that. I wish Larry would have been a regular. My favorite TAC episode was the one he guest starred in.

Well they were going to get married. That had already been agreed on. Hopefully they would have done that. I wish Larry would have been a regular. My favorite TAC episode was the one he guest starred in.

That one and the one with Vicky doing the commercial. HI:lol::lol::lol:

Another reason why Three's a Crowd may have failed is that when compared to Three's Company, you really didn't get a clear idea of what the formula was supposed to be. With Three's Company, you knew that you were getting slapstick, innuendo, and bedroom farce. But with Three's a Crowd, it appeared that the only real sense of comedic tension is that Jack Tripper doesn't get along with his pseudo father-in-law played by Robert Mandan. It likely doesn't help that unlike with Joyce DeWitt on Three's Company, John Ritter doesn't have a lot of chemistry with Mary Caderotte, who played his live-in girlfriend on Three's a Crowd.

I think the show would have been better without Vicky parents. How often did we see the parents of jack and the girls? So to have her dad as a permanent character is one of the things that could have hurt the show

I don’t know why John Ritter decided to do “Three’s A Crowd”. In my opinion, audiences were growing tired of the Jack Tripper character. Plus, he didn't have much chemistry with co-star Mary Cadorrete. According to Wikipedia, ABC was reluctant to cancel TAC despite its mediocre ratings, so they approached Ritter with an offer to renew it for half-season of 13 episodes. Ritter replied that the network either renew the series for a full season or cancel it. So ABC pulled the plug.

Maybe the bottom-line is that people didn't really want to see the Jack Tripper character settle down with a woman and explore an adult relationship. On Three's Company, even though he was an alleged womanizer, he was you could say, ultimately a very sexless character. I don't know if this is an accurate assessment, but one comment that I read suggested that Jack was at most, a dirty-minded little kid making obvious sex jokes.

Actually, I liked Vicki and I liked the show.

I know exactly why this show failed. It was combination of things:

1. The show ripped off Too Close for Comfort without really getting why the friction between Henry and Monroe was so funny. Henry was a jerk, but you could understand why he'd get angry with Monroe sometimes. Monroe was frustrating. On TAC, Vicki's father was just an ahole to Jack for no real reason, when Jack couldn't have been nicer or sweeter. It was not fun--or funny--having to watch a nice guy like Jack constantly put up with a jerk like that and grovel for his approval because he wanted to prove his love to Vicki.

2. EZ (or whatever his name was) was not only a ripoff of Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High but already an outdated character--and annoying.

3. The restaurant story arc. I don't think people cared about this as much as the show's writers thought. Restaurants like the one on the show were no longer popular. I remember family style chain restaurants like TGIFs, Chichi's, etc. being really big back then, not some hoity toity restaurant serving gourmet food. I don't think this connected with the audience at all.

4. Vicky was, indeed, a problem, both because of how she was written and how she was played. We spent all these years watching Jack date all of these sexually mature women with decent heads on their shoulders, but all of a sudden, he hooks up with this drip of a woman who almost seems like a little girl, still relying on her parents, and acting like she's never been in a relationship before. Vicky was also a complete drip, and I couldn't have helped wondering how much funnier the show would've been had Jack hooked up with Greedy Gretchen.

I used to blame Mary Cadorette for how much of a boring drip Vicki was, but then she was really great in Night Court as Harry's boyfriend, so I don't know what happened on TAC.

It failed because it was against marriage

It failed because it was against marriage
Your joking right?
If that was true then Angie would have still been a top 10 smash in the second season and Threes Company would have bombed.

Your joking right?
If that was true then Angie would have still been a top 10 smash in the second season and Threes Company would have bombed.

That's the vibe the show gave off

I couldn't have helped wondering how much funnier the show would've been had Jack hooked up with Greedy Gretchen.

I think that would have been one of the few things that would have made it worse. Her and Lana were annoying af.

I think that would have been one of the few things that would have made it worse. Her and Lana were annoying af.

Not only that Greedy Gretchen was unattractive:lol:

Not only that Greedy Gretchen was unattractive:lol:

You thought Rosie O'Donnell was attractive, but you think Greedy Gretchen was unattractive? Make it make sense. :)

You need to log out because your membership on here is about to be revoked. :lol:

You must not have seen Teresa Ganzel on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson or in The Toy. She is very funny and gorgeous.

You thought Rosie O'Donnell was attractive, but you think Greedy Gretchen was unattractive? Make it make sense. :)

You need to log out because your membership on here is about to be revoked. :lol:

You must not have seen Teresa Ganzel on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson or in The Toy. She is very funny and gorgeous.


Rosie Odonell???

Rosie Odonell???

Don't try to edit or delete this post. I made a screenshot of it. :)

https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=4699840

Don't try to edit or delete this post. I made a screenshot of it. :)

https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=4699840

Oh that was sexual due to her outfit. lol


Not for dating:lol: I dont think Teresa Ganzel has a pretty face. I actually think she was the worst looking female on Three's Company. I would take the FAT lady's face that accidently received flowers from Jack LOL

Oh that was sexual due to her outfit. lol


Not for dating:lol: I dont think Teresa Ganzel has a pretty face. I actually think she was the worst looking female on Three's Company. I would take the FAT lady's face that accidently received flowers from Jack LOL

I don't know what you were watching. Dana Delany and the model Iman were the hot ones in that movie.

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Teresa Ganzel looks very cute to me. She was pretty popular in the 1980s. Maybe she didn't have the best hairstyle for her on Three's Company. She looked like Loni Anderson with her dress and hair like that.

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No chemistry in the cast and the public was tired of “misunderstandings” and no one cared if they were married or not.

I know exactly why this show failed. It was combination of things:

1. The show ripped off Too Close for Comfort without really getting why the friction between Henry and Monroe was so funny. Henry was a jerk, but you could understand why he'd get angry with Monroe sometimes. Monroe was frustrating. On TAC, Vicki's father was just an ahole to Jack for no real reason, when Jack couldn't have been nicer or sweeter. It was not fun--or funny--having to watch a nice guy like Jack constantly put up with a jerk like that and grovel for his approval because he wanted to prove his love to Vicki.

2. EZ (or whatever his name was) was not only a ripoff of Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High but already an outdated character--and annoying.

3. The restaurant story arc. I don't think people cared about this as much as the show's writers thought. Restaurants like the one on the show were no longer popular. I remember family style chain restaurants like TGIFs, Chichi's, etc. being really big back then, not some hoity toity restaurant serving gourmet food. I don't think this connected with the audience at all.

4. Vicky was, indeed, a problem, both because of how she was written and how she was played. We spent all these years watching Jack date all of these sexually mature women with decent heads on their shoulders, but all of a sudden, he hooks up with this drip of a woman who almost seems like a little girl, still relying on her parents, and acting like she's never been in a relationship before. Vicky was also a complete drip, and I couldn't have helped wondering how much funnier the show would've been had Jack hooked up with Greedy Gretchen.

I used to blame Mary Cadorette for how much of a boring drip Vicki was, but then she was really great in Night Court as Harry's boyfriend, so I don't know what happened on TAC.

I'm going to guess that come Three's a Crowd, Jack was no longer a relatable, down to earth everyman like he was on Three's Company. He seemed more like a well-made yuppie come the time that he started owning a restaurant. Jack was presumably, a more interesting character when he was something of an underdog.

False, all the seasons of TC were great aside from a few eps in season 8 like the tattoo episode

Also, the episode where Jack, Janet, and Terri have to hide a kitten from Mr. Furley. It was kind of obvious by that point that they were running out of ideas, thus they resorted to recycling plots from the earlier seasons with the Ropers.

I know exactly why this show failed. It was combination of things:

1. The show ripped off Too Close for Comfort without really getting why the friction between Henry and Monroe was so funny. Henry was a jerk, but you could understand why he'd get angry with Monroe sometimes. Monroe was frustrating. On TAC, Vicki's father was just an ahole to Jack for no real reason, when Jack couldn't have been nicer or sweeter. It was not fun--or funny--having to watch a nice guy like Jack constantly put up with a jerk like that and grovel for his approval because he wanted to prove his love to Vicki.

2. EZ (or whatever his name was) was not only a ripoff of Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High but already an outdated character--and annoying.

3. The restaurant story arc. I don't think people cared about this as much as the show's writers thought. Restaurants like the one on the show were no longer popular. I remember family style chain restaurants like TGIFs, Chichi's, etc. being really big back then, not some hoity toity restaurant serving gourmet food. I don't think this connected with the audience at all.

4. Vicky was, indeed, a problem, both because of how she was written and how she was played. We spent all these years watching Jack date all of these sexually mature women with decent heads on their shoulders, but all of a sudden, he hooks up with this drip of a woman who almost seems like a little girl, still relying on her parents, and acting like she's never been in a relationship before. Vicky was also a complete drip, and I couldn't have helped wondering how much funnier the show would've been had Jack hooked up with Greedy Gretchen.

I used to blame Mary Cadorette for how much of a boring drip Vicki was, but then she was really great in Night Court as Harry's boyfriend, so I don't know what happened on TAC.

I could understand better, where Mr. Bradford (https://threescompany.fandom.com/wiki/James_Bradford) was coming from if his daughter somehow, started dating Larry Dallas instead of Jack since Larry is already, a pretty sleazy acting guy. Unless I missed something, what exactly was the root of Mr. Bradford's beef with Jack other than, he didn't want his grown daughter to be sacking up with man that she's not married to?

Otherwise, Jack is a nice guy and owns and runs his own successful business, thus he's presumably "legit". Plus, he spent the past eight or so years living with women (Janet, Chrissy, Cindy, and Terri) that he wasn't exactly married to, and he didn't get anybody pregnant or what not during that time frame. And if I remember correctly, neither Janet, Terri, nor Chrissy's fathers (https://threescompany.fandom.com/wiki/Roland_Wood) had much of an issue with Jack living with them. And keep in mind that Chrissy's dad (https://threescompany.fandom.com/wiki/Reverend_Luther_Snow) was a reverend.

I could understand better, where Mr. Bradford (https://threescompany.fandom.com/wiki/James_Bradford) was coming from if his daughter somehow, started dating Larry Dallas instead of Jack since Larry is already, a pretty sleazy acting guy. Unless I missed something, what exactly was the root of Mr. Bradford's beef with Jack other than, he didn't want his grown daughter to be sacking up with man that she's not married to?

TAC was still carrying out the premise that it was living in sin to shack up with someone you weren't married to. That's why he hated Jack. But it was a dated premise by the time the show ran with it, so it didn't translate well. It just looked like Bradford was being an ahole for no good reason other than, "We have to give Jack a foil because there was Mr. Angelino, Filipe and all the others."

TAC was still carrying out the premise that it was living in sin to shack up with someone you weren't married to. That's why he hated Jack. But it was a dated premise by the time the show ran with it, so it didn't translate well. It just looked like Bradford was being an ahole for no good reason other than, "We have to give Jack a foil because there was Mr. Angelino, Filipe and all the others."

Any guy on this planet would love a girl like Vicky lol Not interested in marriage just a serious relationship.

I know exactly why this show failed. It was combination of things:

1. The show ripped off Too Close for Comfort without really getting why the friction between Henry and Monroe was so funny. Henry was a jerk, but you could understand why he'd get angry with Monroe sometimes. Monroe was frustrating. On TAC, Vicki's father was just an ahole to Jack for no real reason, when Jack couldn't have been nicer or sweeter. It was not fun--or funny--having to watch a nice guy like Jack constantly put up with a jerk like that and grovel for his approval because he wanted to prove his love to Vicki.

2. EZ (or whatever his name was) was not only a ripoff of Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High but already an outdated character--and annoying.

3. The restaurant story arc. I don't think people cared about this as much as the show's writers thought. Restaurants like the one on the show were no longer popular. I remember family style chain restaurants like TGIFs, Chichi's, etc. being really big back then, not some hoity toity restaurant serving gourmet food. I don't think this connected with the audience at all.

4. Vicky was, indeed, a problem, both because of how she was written and how she was played. We spent all these years watching Jack date all of these sexually mature women with decent heads on their shoulders, but all of a sudden, he hooks up with this drip of a woman who almost seems like a little girl, still relying on her parents, and acting like she's never been in a relationship before. Vicky was also a complete drip, and I couldn't have helped wondering how much funnier the show would've been had Jack hooked up with Greedy Gretchen.

I used to blame Mary Cadorette for how much of a boring drip Vicki was, but then she was really great in Night Court as Harry's boyfriend, so I don't know what happened on TAC.

I think that this comment from the Three's Company subreddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/threescompany/comments/1dglhrk/comment/l8rgmwr/), is another perfect summary for why Vicky was a poorly written and played character:
Vicky and Jack had no chemistry, no spark, and there was a lack of connectivity between the two. Vicky wasn't on long enough to build real character. She was a little stiff, and her line delivery was awkward at times. That was also why "Three's A Crowd" failed to take off.

Jack was a roving-eyed lover-boy/womanizer character who brought home a new girl almost every episode for seven years. Most of the women had long, wavy hair and had sassy attitudes.

He met up with Vicky in an airplane lavatory and bumbled his way into her heart, that quick.

We've watched Jack Tripper romancing many women or talking about it with Larry for seven years...

Then he suddenly decided to settle down and get married to a blonde, helmet-haired, goody-two-shoes/good-girl/straight-laced type with an overbearing, boundary-stomping father hovering all over the place.

Nah, it just didn't mesh. It was unbelievable due to Jack's well-known personality and demeanor (https://www.reddit.com/r/threescompany/comments/1dglhrk/comment/lk7nkfp/). It was like the producers said, "Welp, we're done here! Let's get them started on 'Three's A Crowd,' now!"

I liked Vicky, I think that she was a good person to be paired with Jack. She wasn't like the other girls that he dated, the only thing that I didn't like was that she didn't want to marry him. Mr. Bradford was constantly in their lives, they could have given him something else to do other than bother them all the time. I guess that's why the show was called Three's a Crowd. I for one liked Vicky.

I will always believe the show would have done better if it wasn't no permanent Mr. Bradford around

Somebody on r/threescompany (https://www.reddit.com/r/threescompany/comments/1hff4fi/was_threes_a_crowd_too_serious_to_be_a_good_comedy/) argued that the characters in Three's a Crowd (including Jack) were overall, too serious for what is supposed to be a comedy. Robert Mandan as Mr. Bradford is basically, what Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley were in Three's Company. But unlike Norman Fell and Don Knotts, Robert Mandan seemed to be incapable of balancing being the hardnosed landlord while having still a comedic side to his character.

Somebody on r/threescompany (https://www.reddit.com/r/threescompany/comments/1hff4fi/was_threes_a_crowd_too_serious_to_be_a_good_comedy/) argued that the characters in Three's a Crowd (including Jack) were overall, too serious for what is supposed to be a comedy. Robert Mandan as Mr. Bradford is basically, what Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley were in Three's Company. But unlike Norman Fell and Don Knotts, Robert Mandan seemed to be incapable of balancing being the hardnosed landlord while having still a comedic side to his character.
I would agree with that. Jack changed to becoming a mid 80s yuppie and not the skirt chaser her was on Threes Company. Vicki was so straight laced it was annoying. Her dad was like a Mr Roper but Roper had so many faults that we found funny. Vicki's dad was just so serious.
Very well said.

TAC was still carrying out the premise that it was living in sin to shack up with someone you weren't married to. That's why he hated Jack. But it was a dated premise by the time the show ran with it, so it didn't translate well. It just looked like Bradford was being an ahole for no good reason other than, "We have to give Jack a foil because there was Mr. Angelino, Filipe and all the others."

I think a big problem is that Three's a Crowd (http://thelandofwhatever.blogspot.com/2015/09/what-mightve-been-threes-crowd-1984.html) tried to specifically (https://www.reddit.com/r/80s/comments/1bqe2d3/threes_a_crowd_short_lived_1_season_threes/) or directly copy (https://moviechat.org/tt0086816/Threes-a-Crowd/58c740e76b51e905f66e5475/Not-surprising-it-sucked) the format and premise of its British counterpart (http://maroonmondays.blogspot.com/2014/05/1sw-threes-crowd.html), Robin's Nest (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin%27s_Nest_(TV_series)) instead of going off into its own direction like you could say, Three's Company eventually did when compared to Man About the House.

The first episode Family Matters is about Jack lying to his Aunt that he lives with a man, and then when Vicki appears he tells her they are married. Its only the first episode and we already got a rerun of Janet's secret. Its revealed that Jack did not even tell his parents yet he was living with Vicki. By the mid 80s it was not scandalous at all for unmarried couples to live together. We get reruns of Threes Company but they are not as good because Jack changed. Jack is the one that is serious and wants to get married and is not the skirt chaser he was on Threes Company.
In the last episode of Threes Company was very awkward when Jack and Vicki are in bed together and tell each other how nervous they are. Suddenly they tried to make Jack Tripper a virgin who wanted marriage.
Seriously though.......the very first episode Jack is afraid to tell his aunt and parents he is living with Vicki. He lived with 2 women for 8 years. They were beating a dead horse.

The first episode Family Matters is about Jack lying to his Aunt that he lives with a man, and then when Vicki appears he tells her they are married. Its only the first episode and we already got a rerun of Janet's secret. Its revealed that Jack did not even tell his parents yet he was living with Vicki. By the mid 80s it was not scandalous at all for unmarried couples to live together. We get reruns of Threes Company but they are not as good because Jack changed. Jack is the one that is serious and wants to get married and is not the skirt chaser he was on Threes Company.
In the last episode of Threes Company was very awkward when Jack and Vicki are in bed together and tell each other how nervous they are. Suddenly they tried to make Jack Tripper a virgin who wanted marriage.
Seriously though.......the very first episode Jack is afraid to tell his aunt and parents he is living with Vicki. He lived with 2 women for 8 years. They were beating a dead horse.

And he shouldnt have been afraid to say nothing because he was a grown man with his own business. lol what the hell was she going to do and what was his mom going to do? Like u said.........silliness

TAC was still carrying out the premise that it was living in sin to shack up with someone you weren't married to. That's why he hated Jack. But it was a dated premise by the time the show ran with it, so it didn't translate well. It just looked like Bradford was being an ahole for no good reason other than, "We have to give Jack a foil because there was Mr. Angelino, Filipe and all the others."

Even then, the whole logic of the premise doesn't add up because if I'm not mistaken, in the series finale for Three's Company, Jack was the one who wanted to marry Vicky. It was actually Vicky's idea for them to "live in sin", so again, why was James so angry with Jack for something that began with his own daughter? I mean, if Vicky isn't the marrying type, then is James going to forever behave like this with any other of his daughter's boyfriends?

I mean, why can't Vicky just tell her dad straight up that she's afraid to get married because of her own parents divorce instead of stringing Jack along? This just at least in my mind, makes Vicky completely unsympathetic and a total user. Basically, she likes to the idea of being married without officially being married. In other words, she wants to "play house" with Jack. All in all, she's obviously, still way too immature to be in a serious, committed relationship.

Somebody on r/threescompany (https://www.reddit.com/r/threescompany/comments/1hff4fi/was_threes_a_crowd_too_serious_to_be_a_good_comedy/) argued that the characters in Three's a Crowd (including Jack) were overall, too serious for what is supposed to be a comedy. Robert Mandan as Mr. Bradford is basically, what Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley were in Three's Company. But unlike Norman Fell and Don Knotts, Robert Mandan seemed to be incapable of balancing being the hardnosed landlord while having still a comedic side to his character.

There's really little if any logical reason for why Mr. Bradford has to constantly be in Jack's daily life. With Mr. Roper and Mr. Furley, it made sense because, they were Jack's landlords when Jack lived with Janet, Chrissy, Cindy, and Terri. If you live in an apartment building or complex and you have to pay rent every month like Jack Tripper, then the chances are very likely that you're going to have to deal with the landlord sooner or later.

Also, take Mr. Angelino, he if you ask me, was a more "grounded" or "realistic" older male antagonist or obstacle for Jack because he at the end of the day, was just a mean boss. I'm sure that we've all encountered at one point or another in our lives, a boss who is a jerk or an a-hole like Frank Angelino.

well she was a plain jane and that's the vibe they wanted the character to give off

Mary Cadorette (https://nedhardy.com/2022/04/13/mary-cadorette/) ironically, looks far more "desirable" or "hot" in this image from the $100,000 Pyramid (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ2589KjdDI) game show than she ever did on Three's Company/Three's a Crowd:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DZ2589KjdDI/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLDrxrOYCjN68qB5tLntlyP9AngO4Q