Even though All in the Family was a true groundbreaking and at times controversial sitcom, a lot of the topics are really dated. Do you think AITF is a bit too dated for new viewers to really enjoy?

While I think that young people seeing it today for the first time would not get the President Nixon/Ford/Carter references, etc., the relationship humour is timeless and not really dated.

Even though All in the Family was a true groundbreaking and at times controversial sitcom, a lot of the topics are really dated. Do you think AITF is a bit too dated for new viewers to really enjoy?


The fact that it's dated so make it easier for people to enjoy the show.

If you can get past the clothing styles, 70's lingo and references as Kasey mentioned (which discerning viewers SHOULD BE able to), NO, it is most definitely not too dated.

Dealing with issues like homosexuality, abortion, rape, foreign wars, inflation, government corruption, unemployment, the Arab/Israeli conflict, racism and many others, this show is as relevant today as it ever was.

Retro is right. Think about it, just substitute Iraq for Vietnam, Bush for Nixon or Obama for Carter and it's as relevant today as it ever was.

It sad that we haven't evolved much as human beings since those days of the seventies. In fact, if anything we've regressed and lost sight of what's really important.

Not at all. Many of the topics dealt with poignant problems related to the human condition. The show can also be enjoyed as a classic - savored for its groundbreaking and clever approach to controversial issues.

There were yet more issues that could be added to the list, like gun control, marital infidelity (the "Miss America" remarks from a married man toward a young woman in Kelsey's), and Mike's agnosticism -- and wasn't there an ep where Gloria wanted Mike to get a vasectomy?? All of these things remain in the public eye and can be considered timeless.

If it is "too dated", as you say, Maude would be also. I find both shows nostalgic.

The fact that this show would be considered dated is obscured. It captures that time perfectly, and like all classic shows, its never dated.

The fact that this show would be considered dated is obscured. It captures that time perfectly, and like all classic shows, its never dated.


Exactly! Beautifully said.

AITF may have premiered 20 years before I was born, but I find it very funny and interesting to watch, so no, I don't find it dated. I know my history quite well so I get most of the references.

I'm watching it for the first time, and I think it's hilarious.

I sort of envy you for being able to enjoy these episodes for the first time.

Have you seen the refrigerator repair episode yet, when Archie and Mike each give their own version of the events? Brilliant episode, unlike anything I've ever seen.

I sort of envy you for being able to enjoy these episodes for the first time.

Have you seen the refrigerator repair episode yet, when Archie and Mike each give their own version of the events? Brilliant episode, unlike anything I've ever seen.

You're referring to "Everybody Tells the Truth," and you're right; it was hilarious.

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=279765

This is my first post as I am brand new to the community. But someone mentioned "if you can get past the hairstlyes, clothing etc.". I always find it exciting and nostalgic to look at those. I as a child (born in 65) when AITF was in its heyday, but my mother and aunts wore alot of the same fashions and hair do's. I guess we have our own perspective on watching old sitcoms. I guess the 50's s/coms leave me a little empty cuz I have no point of reference for anything in them. They also tended to be lightweight and fluffy and warm and fuzzy. But the issues addressed in AITF are the same issues as a child I remember all the grown-ups in my life heatedly debating and protesting and voting and carrying on about. (I grew up in a commie-pinko liberal household ;) ). Having said that, I guess I can understand why the younger generations might not "get" it. But for those of us who do, I am sure glad it is still in syndication.

This is my first post as I am brand new to the community. But someone mentioned "if you can get past the hairstlyes, clothing etc.". I always find it exciting and nostalgic to look at those. I as a child (born in 65) when AITF was in its heyday, but my mother and aunts wore alot of the same fashions and hair do's. I guess we have our own perspective on watching old sitcoms. I guess the 50's s/coms leave me a little empty cuz I have no point of reference for anything in them. They also tended to be lightweight and fluffy and warm and fuzzy. But the issues addressed in AITF are the same issues as a child I remember all the grown-ups in my life heatedly debating and protesting and voting and carrying on about. (I grew up in a commie-pinko liberal household ;) ). Having said that, I guess I can understand why the younger generations might not "get" it. But for those of us who do, I am sure glad it is still in syndication.


Welcome to the Board and hope to see more of you. And All in the Family will always be in syndication because it' a classic. Do you like any other Norman Lear sitcoms?

Welcome to sitcoms Online. :wave: I was born in 1965 too. I watched it every week throughout the 70's. They don't make shows like AITF anymore.

It's considered dated TODAY if it's more than a week old :rolleyes:

That's something I get sick of, people today want nothing to do with a TV or ANYTHING if it didn't come out 5 years from now.

It's considered dated TODAY if it's more than a week old :rolleyes:

That's something I get sick of, people today want nothing to do with a TV or ANYTHING if it didn't come out 5 years from now.


I don't remember what episode it was but I remember Mike talking about some product that was new and improved and he said

"Like the previous products were old and crappy?-lol


But I agree, any cell phone that was the THING last year is OLD this morning-lol

I don't remember what episode it was but I remember Mike talking about some product that was new and improved and he said

"Like the previous products were old and crappy?-lol


But I agree, any cell phone that was the THING last year is OLD this morning-lol
All in the Family was singled out here as being "too dated", because of so many references to politics of the day. Other shows of the '50's, 60's, 70's, 80's etc, could be considered dated, also. The more technology has changed society, particularly in the last decade and a half, like cell phone use in public, I think these "period sit-coms", provide an escape to the past.

When was the last time you watched a show and you thought, "why don't they use their cell?" or why don't they go on the internet to find out something?" :lol:

Welcome to the Board and hope to see more of you. And All in the Family will always be in syndication because it' a classic. Do you like any other Norman Lear sitcoms?


Thank you for the welcome!! I have enjoyed almost all Norman Lear sitcoms. I have been a sitcom girl my whole life. I am still exploring the message boards and there are sitcoms listed that I had completely forgotten about (Dear John, The Courtship of Eddies Father, Chico and The Man:) ) I can still hear and sing-a-long with the theme song to Chico and The Man. It was tragic when Freddie Prinze died. Once again thank you for the welcome!! I am kind of new to message boards period and it is nice to break the ice. Happy Postingl

Thank you for the welcome!! I have enjoyed almost all Norman Lear sitcoms. I have been a sitcom girl my whole life. I am still exploring the message boards and there are sitcoms listed that I had completely forgotten about (Dear John, The Courtship of Eddies Father, Chico and The Man:) ) I can still hear and sing-a-long with the theme song to Chico and The Man. It was tragic when Freddie Prinze died. Once again thank you for the welcome!! I am kind of new to message boards period and it is nice to break the ice. Happy Postingl


I been posting on the AITF board a lot since it airs back to back at 9:30pm on Antenna TV. I really have been enjoying the show and ready to but the DVD's.

I been posting on the AITF board a lot since it airs back to back at 9:30pm on Antenna TV. I really have been enjoying the show and ready to but the DVD's.


What is Antenna TV? Is it a new cable channel?? I googled it and that is what it seems to be. I live in Detroit and it doesn't seem to be available yet. But it sounds right up my alley ya know?

What is Antenna TV? Is it a new cable channel?? I googled it and that is what it seems to be. I live in Detroit and it doesn't seem to be available yet. But it sounds right up my alley ya know?


Yes its a new local channel that started in January and carried by some cable companies. I didn't get until January 25th

I think All In The Family still holds up fairly well today. I enjoy it but don't like any of the spinoffs. Maude, The Jeffersons, I dislike both those shows.

The fashions aside, just swap Bush for Nixon, Obama for Carter and it's still relevant. We're still dealing with many of the issues on AITF.

What's sad is how little we've progressed since then. :(

i think that if you liked it then, you'll probably like it now (and vice versa), and for those who've never seen the show, it would depend solely on whether the individual is into nostalgia or not.

Yes its a new local channel that started in January and carried by some cable companies. I didn't get until January 25th
what are some sample shows carried by Antenna TV?? Do you like it? I can't wait until we get it here. We are a large urban/suburban market so I cant imagine not getting it. Thanks for all the info and greetings!

what are some sample shows carried by Antenna TV?? Do you like it? I can't wait until we get it here. We are a large urban/suburban market so I cant imagine not getting it. Thanks for all the info and greetings!


They are the shows I watch on Antenna TV from Mon to Thursday

Good times from 7pm to 8pm

Sanford and Son from 8pm to 9pm

All in the Family from 9pm to 10pm

Married with Children from 10pm to 11pm

Three's Company-12midnight

They are the shows I watch on Antenna TV from Mon to Thursday

Good times from 7pm to 8pm

Sanford and Son from 8pm to 9pm

All in the Family from 9pm to 10pm

Married with Children from 10pm to 11pm

Three's Company-12midnight
Now that's my kind of party!!!

Not to insult die-hard fans of the show, but Norman Lear had one purpose in mind for AITF: to air his political and social beliefs on national television. I suspect if it had a different cast the idea would have flopped. But a strong cast is what made AITF rise above the others. It's watching thier performances today that make the show worth watching. The politics became overshadowed.
When I catch AITF today its to watch O'Conner. Stapelton, and Reiner, I couldn't give a flip about the politics. I don't think that is what Lear intended...but that is the result nonetheless.

I think you make a very valid point -- the excellence of the cast coupled with good scripts made for a very enjoyable experience. You're probably right regarding Lear's motivations, but regardless the end product was really good.

Absolutely not. If anything, it's even more relevant. It's real life in many ways, still. I can't think of any current sitcoms that even come close in terms of addressing political, racial, and other controversial issues. It's like we've returned to "Leave it to Beaver".

If I catch a rerun on TV Land, I still laugh. That to me is the definition of a classic. Whereas some other seventies shows that I liked as a kid don't hold up in the same way.

While there are many topical references in the show that may trap it as a product of it's time, we are still dealing with many of the issues in 2011 that AITF dealt with in the 70s. The players have changed, the names have changed but the games are still there. We still have many of the same problems in this country.

The place where AITF succeeds (and some of you alluded to this already) is in that at it's core, it really is about family, relationships, fears, etc. It has a depth to it that after you strip away the many racial, sociological, and political layers makes it feel alive. We see a little of ourselves in each of these people so we can relate to the many experiences they have. They may be different in 2011 but at their core they are the same.

If I were to watch an episode of the Brady Bunch or Partridge Family (for as much as I love these shows) right now at my age (41) for the first time, I probably would think they were lame. However I have that nostalgia factor with these shows that brings me comfort and good memories so it is a totally different experience. With AITF, the humor is always fresh and genuinely funny because it comes from the core of the people that the show is about.

AITF is a classic but not a great escape show much like Good Times and Maude.

The Norman Lear shows that wasn' too serious and are great escapes of reality were the

Jeffersons and Sanford and Son


AITF wasn't as serious as Maude but not as fun to watch as the Jeffersons

If AITF is dated then so is Seinfeld! How many episodes of Seinfeld would have been solved if they had used a cell phone? In particular the one where they keep going into the wrong theater.
My 13 year old son thinks AITF is hilarious. We both call it the "turr-let"

All In The Family is timeless. Some shows from my youth haven't aged well, but AITF still gets a good laugh or two out of me if I happen to catch it.

If people watched All in the Family today they would be amazed with how the criticism Mike dishes out to Richard Nixon is easily applicable to Barack Obama today.

If people watched All in the Family today they would be amazed with how the criticism Mike dishes out to Richard Nixon is easily applicable to Barack Obama today.


Why do you say that?

AITF is a classic but not a great escape show much like Good Times and Maude.

The Norman Lear shows that wasn' too serious and are great escapes of reality were the

Jeffersons and Sanford and Son


AITF wasn't as serious as Maude but not as fun to watch as the Jeffersons
I think The Jeffersons and Sanford & Son are the best "great escape" shows. If I'm feeling down, I can always get a chuckle out of George Jefferson or Fred Sanford. :)

I think The Jeffersons and Sanford & Son are the best "great escape" shows. If I'm feeling down, I can always get a chuckle out of George Jefferson or Fred Sanford. :)


Yes, AITF wasn't know for being fun to watch just controversial

Yes, AITF wasn't know for being fun to watch just controversial
AIIF dealt with too many serious issues.

Jeffersons and Sanford & Son were light-hearted and good fun to watch. :) My favorites were Fred ragging on Aunt Ester or George ragging on Florence...:)

It is amazing how relevant All in the Family is.

After all Ron and Rand Paul are bonafide John Birch Society members
and instead of sheets with eye holes, the tea party is front and center.

Nixon's southern strategy personified, day to day by the republicans and the tea party people.

It's funny in a sense, Archie today would hate Richard Nixon who would simply not exist in today's Republican Parties, now would he? Not with his very liberal social views.

However, George Wallace and Strom Thurmand and Haley Barbour and David Duke and Rand Paul and his father Ron Paul would indeed make Archie happy to have a beer with.

Archie was always one who moved backwards
and backwards is the motto of the Ted Cruz Mike Huckabee Republican party.
:lol:

btw, last year my health insurance was $3000 plus A MONTH.
This year, it is now $393.
But I am sure Archie would be against the ACA AND our President.
(it's as simple as black and white).
Thank you President Obama for moving us FORWARD.

It is amazing how relevant All in the Family is.

After all Ron and Rand Paul are bonafide John Birch Society members
and instead of sheets with eye holes, the tea party is front and center.

Nixon's southern strategy personified, day to day by the republicans and the tea party people.

It's funny in a sense, Archie today would hate Richard Nixon who would simply not exist in today's Republican Parties, now would he? Not with his very liberal social views.

However, George Wallace and Strom Thurmand and Haley Barbour and David Duke and Rand Paul and his father Ron Paul would indeed make Archie happy to have a beer with.

Archie was always one who moved backwards
and backwards is the motto of the Ted Cruz Mike Huckabee Republican party.
:lol:

btw, last year my health insurance was $3000 plus A MONTH.
This year, it is now $393.
But I am sure Archie would be against the ACA AND our President.
(it's as simple as black and white).


$393 is a lot of money a month
Thank you President Obama for moving us FORWARD.

TV fact fan-
I do NOT appreciate that you added a line to what I said above and made it seem like I said it.
That is disingenuous and worthless like the tea party.

You might think $393 is a lot of money, yet I was paying over $3000 a month as did many selfemployed family plans. Saving 30,000 plus dollars a year is a great thing, though I guess you don't think so.
(Especially as you must have your own that is handed to you by a company as a taxfree benefit I guess.)

Would be a typical Archie Bunker line to be against everything that is not the exact same as he was. (of course, what was always great is- Carroll was the exact opposite in real life of Archie, and a great liberal and friend of those that didn't have.
Archie just took the freebees and whined about others.

While those with companies paying it might be getting tax free handouts on cheapie insurance and whining about a $5 increase, those not working for companies get screwed time and again.

President Obama is the single best President since LBJ and FDR.
And Hillary will be able to be President with a changed forever US Supreme Court to continue the agenda of President Obama

Tune in tomorrow, the best is yet to come for America (with no thanks to Mitt 47%er and any republican tea party.

And again, it is very rude to put a line in between someone elses writing
(though of course Rand Paul himself liked to do things like that) and make it seem like the other person wrote it.

VERY RUDE.

TV fact fan-
I do NOT appreciate that you added a line to what I said above and made it seem like I said it.
That is disingenuous and worthless like the tea party.

You might think $393 is a lot of money, yet I was paying over $3000 a month as did many selfemployed family plans. Saving 30,000 plus dollars a year is a great thing, though I guess you don't think so.
(Especially as you must have your own that is handed to you by a company as a taxfree benefit I guess.)

Would be a typical Archie Bunker line to be against everything that is not the exact same as he was. (of course, what was always great is- Carroll was the exact opposite in real life of Archie, and a great liberal and friend of those that didn't have.
Archie just took the freebees and whined about others.

While those with companies paying it might be getting tax free handouts on cheapie insurance and whining about a $5 increase, those not working for companies get screwed time and again.

President Obama is the single best President since LBJ and FDR.
And Hillary will be able to be President with a changed forever US Supreme Court to continue the agenda of President Obama

Tune in tomorrow, the best is yet to come for America (with no thanks to Mitt 47%er and any republican tea party.

And again, it is very rude to put a line in between someone elses writing
(though of course Rand Paul himself liked to do things like that) and make it seem like the other person wrote it.

VERY RUDE.



Obamacare is stupid because someone who is unemployed and healthy will need money for food and shouldn't be forced to pay for something they don't need at the time

TV fact fan-
I do NOT appreciate that you added a line to what I said above and made it seem like I said it.
That is disingenuous and worthless like the tea party.

You might think $393 is a lot of money, yet I was paying over $3000 a month as did many selfemployed family plans. Saving 30,000 plus dollars a year is a great thing, though I guess you don't think so.
(Especially as you must have your own that is handed to you by a company as a taxfree benefit I guess.)

Would be a typical Archie Bunker line to be against everything that is not the exact same as he was. (of course, what was always great is- Carroll was the exact opposite in real life of Archie, and a great liberal and friend of those that didn't have.
Archie just took the freebees and whined about others.

While those with companies paying it might be getting tax free handouts on cheapie insurance and whining about a $5 increase, those not working for companies get screwed time and again.

President Obama is the single best President since LBJ and FDR.
And Hillary will be able to be President with a changed forever US Supreme Court to continue the agenda of President Obama

Tune in tomorrow, the best is yet to come for America (with no thanks to Mitt 47%er and any republican tea party.

And again, it is very rude to put a line in between someone elses writing
(though of course Rand Paul himself liked to do things like that) and make it seem like the other person wrote it.

VERY RUDE.



The $393 was supposed to be under my name saying it was a lot of money, my error

Obamacare is stupid because someone who is unemployed and healthy will need money for food and shouldn't be forced to pay for something they don't need at the time
Word!

That makes no sense at all-
It is rightwing talking points.

IF a person has no income, IT IS COSTING NOTHING as either Medicaid would apply (except in the stupid red states with idiot gov's who refuse to expand it and obey the law) OR in instant subsidies off the price, basically allowing it for even cheaper.

It takes a family of 4 to make more than 60,000 ACTUAL dollars (and that means AFTER deductions and any cost of doing business for self-employed)
before one has to pay.

SO if the family makes nothing due to unemployment, there is NO choice for them to choose.

It is a false analogy, and of course, all the right wing media doesn't and didn't tell you this.

And those who already have btw, and got one of those messages, can easily end up in the exact same insurance under the ACA with the same doctors in more than 99% of the cases, PAYING LESS even if one pays the full price, it is less, and one gets more.

Those with company insurance are already covered and the ACA don't apply to you.

However, those that were selfemployed and ALREADY paid 1000s a month for a family of four, now pay much, much less, and now those with preexisting can for the first time get or change insurances.

TO put it in TV Movie terms- CHristopher Lee had great premo health insurance, until he had his accident. That coverage had a cap, which ran out days after. If not for friends, and then hospitals/doctors comping him, he would not have been able to survive as his insurance ran out due to lifetime caps, which now don't exist.

And none of my numbers income wise has shifted the last five years.
HOWEVER, this year I will have $36000 PLUS in pocket dollars that I did not have last year, not having to pay the $3250 plus a MONTH ($36,000 a YEAR)

Anyone who was self-employed with family knows how the premiums rose 15% every year the last 3 decades, with no end in sight prior to this.
(And we in the 1980s used to have a large company paying, then after no longer working for them, and Cobraserv after that, to be in the same insurance it went from next to nothing (and no tax paid as that was a tax free benefit as it was not considered income when the company paid their paychecks every two weeks), to 1000s to over 3000 a MONTH prior to this new plan.

IF only the media reported the good stuff.

I bet Archie Bunker loved the UNION benefits he received, while at the same time hating unions and every single minority and woman too that he knew.

(Remember the epsidode where Archie's club needed to have a minority, and he asked his coworker (Played by James McEachin) to join not only because he was black, but Jewish too.
Archie would also hate the ACA (of course he would call it Obamacare in a snotty negative way).

And for those young-remember something- one major illness can bankrupt you and your parents if still living in their house but over 26.
Ever get a hospital bill?
Ever leave a hospital and need follow-up care that an emergency room visit doesn't cover later on?

That makes no sense at all-
It is rightwing talking points.

IF a person has no income, IT IS COSTING NOTHING as either Medicaid would apply (except in the stupid red states with idiot gov's who refuse to expand it and obey the law) OR in instant subsidies off the price, basically allowing it for even cheaper.

This is a HUGE exception. Not everybody lives in blue states, so what you just wrote doesn't really contradict anything the TVFactFan said about Obamacare. He's 100% correct when he says: "Obamacare is stupid because someone who is unemployed and healthy will need money for food and shouldn't be forced to pay for something they don't need at the time"

That makes no sense at all-
It is rightwing talking points.

IF a person has no income, IT IS COSTING NOTHING as either Medicaid would apply (except in the stupid red states with idiot gov's who refuse to expand it and obey the law) OR in instant subsidies off the price, basically allowing it for even cheaper.

It takes a family of 4 to make more than 60,000 ACTUAL dollars (and that means AFTER deductions and any cost of doing business for self-employed)
before one has to pay.

SO if the family makes nothing due to unemployment, there is NO choice for them to choose.

It is a false analogy, and of course, all the right wing media doesn't and didn't tell you this.

And those who already have btw, and got one of those messages, can easily end up in the exact same insurance under the ACA with the same doctors in more than 99% of the cases, PAYING LESS even if one pays the full price, it is less, and one gets more.

Those with company insurance are already covered and the ACA don't apply to you.

However, those that were selfemployed and ALREADY paid 1000s a month for a family of four, now pay much, much less, and now those with preexisting can for the first time get or change insurances.

TO put it in TV Movie terms- CHristopher Lee had great premo health insurance, until he had his accident. That coverage had a cap, which ran out days after. If not for friends, and then hospitals/doctors comping him, he would not have been able to survive as his insurance ran out due to lifetime caps, which now don't exist.

And none of my numbers income wise has shifted the last five years.
HOWEVER, this year I will have $36000 PLUS in pocket dollars that I did not have last year, not having to pay the $3250 plus a MONTH ($36,000 a YEAR)

Anyone who was self-employed with family knows how the premiums rose 15% every year the last 3 decades, with no end in sight prior to this.
(And we in the 1980s used to have a large company paying, then after no longer working for them, and Cobraserv after that, to be in the same insurance it went from next to nothing (and no tax paid as that was a tax free benefit as it was not considered income when the company paid their paychecks every two weeks), to 1000s to over 3000 a MONTH prior to this new plan.

IF only the media reported the good stuff.

I bet Archie Bunker loved the UNION benefits he received, while at the same time hating unions and every single minority and woman too that he knew.

(Remember the epsidode where Archie's club needed to have a minority, and he asked his coworker (Played by James McEachin) to join not only because he was black, but Jewish too.
Archie would also hate the ACA (of course he would call it Obamacare in a snotty negative way).

And for those young-remember something- one major illness can bankrupt you and your parents if still living in their house but over 26.
Ever get a hospital bill?
Ever leave a hospital and need follow-up care that an emergency room visit doesn't cover later on?


I'm talking about a single person who is unemployed without kids and no medical issues who doesn't need to pay for something that is considered a "JUST IN CASE" when they can use that money for food

I live in Los Angeles, and about five years ago or so (I am guessing) the CBS affiliate here, KCBS, was running reruns of AITF on Saturdays & Sundays at 5:30 PM. Just one episode the lead into the evening news. I hadn't seen the show in quite some time. It didn't last long, maybe a year, or not even that long. I crossed paths with someone one day who worked at the station and asked them, "Hey, what happened to AITF on the weekends?" They said the show was pulled over several angry calls from viewers. So that answers your question at least here in LA.

I'm talking about a single person who is unemployed without kids and no medical issues who doesn't need to pay for something that is considered a "JUST IN CASE" when they can use that money for food

Yeah, and then that uninsured single person gets in an accident and has to go to the emergency room. Then MY tax dollars are paying for that irresponsible person's healthcare.

Yeah, and then that uninsured single person gets in an accident and has to go to the emergency room. Then MY tax dollars are paying for that irresponsible person's healthcare.


No unemployed person should have a ADDED BILL to their finances

Do you think Archie would have wanted to pay a JUST IN CASE bill when he was laid off????

No unemployed person should have a ADDED BILL to their finances

Do you think Archie would have wanted to pay a JUST IN CASE bill when he was laid off????

Learn the law. An unemployed person would fall under the income threshold and is not required to purchase insurance.

All In The Family is not dated at all. If you can look past the 70s clothing and the lingo they used back then, you should be able to watch it without it feeling dated

All In The Family is not dated at all. If you can look past the 70s clothing and the lingo they used back then, you should be able to watch it without it feeling dated


Aside from weirdo gloria, the show has always been watchable

Aside from weirdo gloria, the show has always been watchable

If she was your age, you'd probably date her weirdo.

I wanna have sex with Svenfan;s Mom

How do we still let TVFactFan stay on this website?

Svenfan if you can post from the mental institution I can post too:lol:

How do we still let TVFactFan stay on this website?


Dude , if you just leave him alone there will be no reason to kick TvFactFan off the site. You answered his comment with a snarky reply and you got one in return. If you don't want him answering you like that , stop posting stupid answers to his comment and leave him alone. If he is bothering you this much just BLOCK him.

Aside from weirdo gloria, the show has always been watchable


I never thought Gloria was weird , but I do regard her as a highly annoying character. The most annoying thing about Gloria is how she constantly whines and complains to Michael about everything under the sun.

I never thought Gloria was weird , but I do regard her as a highly annoying character. The most annoying thing about Gloria is how she constantly whines and complains to Michael about everything under the sun.


She came off as mature with all the 3rd grade temper tandrums whenever her father or husband said something she didn't like. The character never seemed to mature during the series

KISS KISS KISS KISS KISS KISS KISS KISS KISSY MMMMMM:lol: :lol:


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tenter hasn't been his meds today because his case manager didnt fill the prescription:lol:

tvfactfan reported thank you :)

I've reported the crazy lech several times but the Mods love him so he'll never leave unfortunately