Does anybody watch this on ID? I don't have the channel itself, but I do get some episodes on demand through my cable provider. The episodes I've seen so far have profiled Nicqui McCown (also featured on UM), Bradyn Fuksa (very interesting and very recent case: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fuksa_michael.html), and John and Elizabeth Calvert (http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=53817). If anyone here is a regular viewer, what other cases have been profiled on the show? I can't wait for new ones to start showing up.

ID is airing a Disappeared marathon right now.

I watch the show, but not religiously. I watched the Nicqui McCown episode when it aired.

This is their website: http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/disappeared/

They've profiled cases that include Paige Birgfeld (they showed it today, she's the mom who was secretly working as an escort when she went missing), Madalyn Murray O'Hare, Tara Grinstead, Brittanee Drexel (she went missing after sneaking out of the state to go to spring break without her parents permission, it was a very interesting episode, the website about her case: www.helpfindbrittaneedrexel.com/ ).

The site has info on the other cases they've covered and they have a link on their site where you can download full episodes from itunes.

SWEET, thanks Tracy!

Wonder if they ever found out anything about that one dude...Ian something. They think he may have joined the Isreali army? Does anybody know what I'm talkinga bout?

I really like this show and have seen all of them. I especially liked the episode where the husband was desperately searching for his missing wife and she was found over a week later barely alive in her car after having crashed it the day she left. So nice to have a happy ending to one of those stories!

I really like this show and have seen all of them. I especially liked the episode where the husband was desperately searching for his missing wife and she was found over a week later barely alive in her car after having crashed it the day she left. So nice to have a happy ending to one of those stories!


Oh I know! My husband and younger daughter were watching with me when that one aired and we all gasped when the discovery was revealed! (They usually mock my obsession with both true and fictional crime shows, and my husband especially never reacts to a TV show like that.)

The boy who may have joined the Israeli army, that one really puzzled me more than any other. From what was said about his commitment to his heritage and faith I could understand it, but not to let his family know?!

I watch this show every chance I get and find it very well done.

Does anybody watch this on ID? I don't have the channel itself, but I do get some episodes on demand through my cable provider. The episodes I've seen so far have profiled Nicqui McCown (also featured on UM), Bradyn Fuksa (very interesting and very recent case: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fuksa_michael.html), and John and Elizabeth Calvert (http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=53817). If anyone here is a regular viewer, what other cases have been profiled on the show? I can't wait for new ones to start showing up.


Best True Crime show on TV, imo, and is the only one that I am aware of that profiles still ongoing cases. Forensic Files is the best for already solved cases. I guess I would put the two shows a close #1 and #2.

Disappeared has a number of interesting cases. I found the Jeramy Burt case especially interesting, considering he was a healthy 30ish year old male who was in good shape, had a beautiful daughter he cared a lot for, and was involved in no illicit activities. For him to go missing is rather odd (the episode makes it clear who the main suspect is, and it is a pretty wild tale fit for Hollywood). I guess I just find a case about a missing, healthy, adult male interesting since most cases involve teenagers or adult women (or when there is a missing man, usually they have some "issues" that they are running from that become apparent early on).

Another great episode is the McStay family disappearance that made so many waves on national news a year or so ago. The show gives a good overview of all the evidence and oddities in that one. I am 50/50 on whether they disappeared on purpose.

But yeah, great show. It is picking up on missing persons cases where UM left off.

Best show on TV since UM in my opinion. Agree with the Burt case, Patti Adkins is another one with someone who has an obvious motive, the Calvert case is a fascinating watch as well.

Plus they have done a lot of the Old UM cases that are still unsolved. The Leah Roberts had updates that I don't recall UM ever covering

One of my favorites is the William Smolinski case. His family believes his ex-girlfriend is involved in his disappearance, especially since she was allegedly filmed tearing down missing posters of him and writing "WHO CARES?" on some of them. That part is like something you'd see on a UM episode. An informant said that his ex-girlfriend's son strangled him and buried his body, but the son died of a drug overdose before he could talk. There's still no clear answer on what really happened, but I do believe he's dead.

Wonder if they ever found out anything about that one dude...Ian something. They think he may have joined the Isreali army? Does anybody know what I'm talkinga bout?


That young man, Lee Cutler, was a high school senior when he went missing.

He had a history of extreme behavior and depression so severe that he needed regular psychiatric treatment.

After spending the night at a friend's house, he missed work and was not answering his phone or returning calls. Police found his car 177 miles from home and watched it, hoping he'd come back. He did not.

They checked the car and found that he'd been reading the book, Into the Wild. He had left a note addressed to his mother that said, "My head is too big for my body, finally I'll get to sleep. I'm sorry mom for being a coward, I love you mom, please be happy."

His yarmulke, pants, and love letters from his girlfriend were found in the woods. A few days later, they found his wallet caught on a branch in the river. There was an empty bottle of Tylenol PM (that he'd been known to use to help him sleep) near his car.

Since the book he'd been reading was about a young man leaving civilization and living in the wilderness, the police decided to look for Lee living the same lifestyle in the woods. They used helicopters and heat seeking equipment, but didn't find him.

Divers checked the river for his body but neither Lee nor any more of his belongings were found there.

With his letter apologizing to his mother for being a "coward", saying "finally I'll get to sleep", and his history of depression and using sleep aids, I think he took all of the sleeping pills and committed suicide by drowning himself in the river. The police believe that if he'd gone into the river, either accidentally or on purpose, they'd find remains, but imo, it's not unusual that they've found no further evidence of him or his belongings there.

That young man, Lee Cutler, was a high school senior when he went missing...

With his letter apologizing to his mother for being a "coward", saying "finally I'll get to sleep", and his history of depression and using sleep aids, I think he took all of the sleeping pills and committed suicide by drowning himself in the river. The police believe that if he'd gone into the river, either accidentally or on purpose, they'd find remains, but imo, it's not unusual that they've found no further evidence of him or his belongings there.
I agree...I think he killed himself too. It's so sad to see anyone, let alone someone that young, take their own life. They overlooked the fact that Into the Wild is about a young man who dies after going off on his own to live in the wilderness. IIRC, Krakauer doesn't think Chris McCandless committed suicide, but that he ate some poisoned berries.

I thought it was eerie when they said that he used to hang out in the parking lot at the Belvediere rest stop northwest of Chicago. I must have been there a million times!

I agree...I think he killed himself too. It's so sad to see anyone, let alone someone that young, take their own life. They overlooked the fact that Into the Wild is about a young man who dies after going off on his own to live in the wilderness. IIRC, Krakauer doesn't think Chris McCandless committed suicide, but that he ate some poisoned berries.

I agree as well. I beleive he killed himself.

As far as Chris McCandless goes, he did ingest a type of fungus growing on berries which Krakauer believed killed him. The autopsy I believe was inconclusive because they could not tell if he starved to death or died from poisoning of that fungus.

I really like this show and have seen all of them. I especially liked the episode where the husband was desperately searching for his missing wife and she was found over a week later barely alive in her car after having crashed it the day she left. So nice to have a happy ending to one of those stories!

This was in NC near me. I had a feeling she had crashed and was soo happy she was found alive. It's nice that some stories have happy endings :) .

The new season of Disappeared starts on October 24th.

IMO, this is the best UM replacement currently on TV. I hope ID can do a show on unsolved murders.

Just an FYI: The 1st season of Disappeared is now available on Netflix Instant. Woohoo!

This is the closest (and best) show to the original Unsolved Mysteries that has came out over the years. Just wish they would have more "updates" to their stories.

I am fairly new to ID & Disppeared as I just switched cable providers and I love this show! I find myself looking online for more information after the shows to see what other theories and discussions there have been about the cases.
I was watching the one on Samantha Bonell last night. There doesn't seem to be much discussion on websleuths other than the thread that her body had been located. I thought there would be tons of theories as to what happened that night. I dont know what to make of the boyfriend's account of what happened. Has anyone else from this magazine crew ever been located or questioned? It seems too strange that they meet a new crew, she goes off without him for a while and they come back without her. There's so much more to the story that we'll probably never know.

Did anyone see the episode of the disappearance of Mike Williams? He was a family man who in December 2000, supposedly went for a morning duck hunt, never to be seen again. They never found his body but certain items of Mike's would show up at the lake he was supposedly at that morning, days, weeks and even months after the investigation. Investigators say that these items were not there when he disappeared as the lake had been searched thoroughly several times.

His mother was interviewed for the show and it seems that only herself and her son (Mike's brother Nick) were the only family members that truly searched for Mike and still do to this day. Mike's wife had a funeral service for him two months after he disappeared and then had him declared legally dead a year or so later. She then got married to Mike's best friend. Investigators theorize that he never went to the lake but was murdered at home by his wife/best friend who were likely having an affair and then drove his truck and boat to the lake and left it there to look as though he was there. What does everyone think of this case?

Did anyone see the episode of the disappearance of Mike Williams? He was a family man who in December 2000, supposedly went for a morning duck hunt, never to be seen again. They never found his body but certain items of Mike's would show up at the lake he was supposedly at that morning, days, weeks and even months after the investigation. Investigators say that these items were not there when he disappeared as the lake had been searched thoroughly several times.

His mother was interviewed for the show and it seems that only herself and her son (Mike's brother Nick) were the only family members that truly searched for Mike and still do to this day. Mike's wife had a funeral service for him two months after he disappeared and then had him declared legally dead a year or so later. She then got married to Mike's best friend. Investigators theorize that he never went to the lake but was murdered at home by his wife/best friend who were likely having an affair and then drove his truck and boat to the lake and left it there to look as though he was there. What does everyone think of this case?

I watched it. I thought it was probably the most obvious case ever profiled on Disappeared. I think his best friend did and his wife was in on it. I think they were having an affair well before he died and wanted to get him out of the way. The best friend had went duck hunting with him many times before so would know where to find him. That being said, I'm not sure whether he was killed while duck hunting or before that and the duck hunting story was concocted by his wife and the boat placed there by the bf. I would think if he were accosted and killed while duck hunting they would have found blood in the boat or nearby. I do think all the things found in the water supposedly belonging to Mike were planted there by the best friend in hopes of having him declared dead or just thinking he accidentally drown and close the case.

I watched it. I thought it was probably the most obvious case ever profiled on Disappeared. I think his best friend did and his wife was in on it. I think they were having an affair well before he died and wanted to get him out of the way. The best friend had went duck hunting with him many times before so would know where to find him. That being said, I'm not sure whether he was killed while duck hunting or before that and the duck hunting story was concocted by his wife and the boat placed there by the bf. I would think if he were accosted and killed while duck hunting they would have found blood in the boat or nearby. I do think all the things found in the water supposedly belonging to Mike were planted there by the best friend in hopes of having him declared dead or just thinking he accidentally drown and close the case.

I agree with you on it being the most obvious case. While I was watching the episode, I kept asking myself "How do they know he was ever at the lake?". I just don't think he was. I believe he was likely killed the day before or maybe even poisoned during dinner the night before and they ridded themselves of his body that night/next morning. The real sick thing about this is that the baby had to have gone with them when they carried out this plan as they carried out this sick plan. I just hope that one day his poor mother has answers. I really feel for that poor lady.

I think the biggest red flag to me is the lack of cooperation Mike's mother/brother received from his wife. I know they had their differences but it seems to me that if someone vanished, you would put your differences aside to figure out what the hell happened. The segment made it seem like she just locked herself away from them and had her Dad do all the talking.

I enjoy this show too. Steven Koecher is the case that intrigues me. That's the guy that parked his car in a senior residential area near Las Vegas and walked down the sidewalk and disappeared. He seemed like such a normal guy, having normal problems. I could really identify with him and his struggle because I've been in his exact situation before, right down to the lay off, the following money trouble, the trouble finding another job and the parents trying to help after I've moved away. His case more than any other is eerie to me because it's such a common position to be in at that age, and I just have a deep, almost haunting desire to know what the heck happened to him?!

I enjoy this show too. Steven Koecher is the case that intrigues me. That's the guy that parked his car in a senior residential area near Las Vegas and walked down the sidewalk and disappeared. He seemed like such a normal guy, having normal problems. I could really identify with him and his struggle because I've been in his exact situation before, right down to the lay off, the following money trouble, the trouble finding another job and the parents trying to help after I've moved away. His case more than any other is eerie to me because it's such a common position to be in at that age, and I just have a deep, almost haunting desire to know what the heck happened to him?!

I agree. The Mike Williams case is the most obvious, but the Steven Koecher is the most heartbreaking, especially considering his father passed away just weeks after the show was taped.

My personal opinion is similar to that of the P.I. that the family hired. Steven pulled into that neighborhood to hand out fliers and go door to door to promote his job, and never left that neighborhood alive. I'm not sure what happened from there, but I think its obvious that he is now deceased and likely killed by someone who pretended to be interested in his company's services and lured him into their residence only to meet his demise. A very very sad case for this young man and his family.

There has been a recent update in the Maura Murray case...or at least some rumors have finally been confirmed. Maura was in some legal trouble from using a stolen credit card:

Read about it here. (http://mauramurray.blogspot.com/2012/01/maura-used-stolen-credit-card-number.html)

She could have been facing disciplinary actions from her university as well. This sheds much more light on why she packed her car full of booze and took off. People are speculating that she might have been suffering from an eating disorder (or bipolar or any other number of disorders) b/c she ordered pizzas...and only pizzas...with the stolen credit card and this is textbook eating disorder behavior. Basically it looks like her life was just a total mess (especially from the perspective of an overachiever) and she didn't reach out to anyone for help. It doesn't shed light on where she is now, or whether there was foul play involved, but it also makes a willful disappearance seem more probable.

There has been a recent update in the Maura Murray case...

From reading all that info, IMO, if people had known what was really going on, no matter how unpleasant, there would be a lot more chance of finding out what happened to her. Pretending that she was the perfect college girl focused the whole country's attention away from exactly where she might have been found.

From reading all that info, IMO, if people had known what was really going on, no matter how unpleasant, there would be a lot more chance of finding out what happened to her. Pretending that she was the perfect college girl focused the whole country's attention away from exactly where she might have been found.
ITA x 1000. I've always gotten the sense that we weren't getting the whole story about the days before Maura disappeared. I totally get why the family might not want this information out. They don't want to drag their daughter's name through the mud. But at the same time, if they did think she was alive, it might help to go public and say, "Maura, we know you're in a little bit of trouble, but we still love you and we'll take care of it. Just come home."

Interesting read....thanks for posting Nowheregirl. I agree UM and even "Disappeared" really went out of their way to portray her as squeaky clean without any problems or concerns. Maybe the truth is starting to come out...

Interesting read....thanks for posting Nowheregirl. I agree UM and even "Disappeared" really went out of their way to portray her as squeaky clean without any problems or concerns. Maybe the truth is starting to come out...

If we're talking about Maura Murray, then I should note that UM never did a segment about her; Maura disappeared in February 2004, less than two years after UM ceased production.

Just FYI, it appears as though Paige Birgfeld's remains have been found. Hopefully this will lead to an arrest...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/07/authorities-find-remains-believed-to-be-mom-missing-since-2007/

Thanks for the info

Not sure if this has been posted anywhere, but Royal "Scoop" Daniel was featured on an episode of Disappeared. Here's an update!


BRECKENRIDGE COLORADO- Royal "Scoop" Daniel appeared in court Thursday morning to be formally advised of his charges. The Summit County District Attorney says there are more to come.

The Breckenridge attorney - who vanished in 2007 - is accused of embezzling thousands of dollars from clients and disappearing into thin air.

After an initial search by friends and police, authorities issued a warrant for his arrest on two counts of theft - alleging he never returned clients' money from real-estate transactions.

The Colorado Supreme Court suspended Daniel's law license in May 2007.

Daniel walked into court Thursday with his ankles in shackles and wearing a black-and-white striped uniform. He sat quietly next to his public defender, 9NEWS' Crime Reporter Anastasiya Bolton says. Daniel was not handcuffed and only looked at the judge.

Many members of the community showed up at the court proceeding Thursday. Bolton says all they commented on was that Daniel had shaved his moustache.

According to Summit County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says more victims came forward after Daniel was found. However, Hurlbert did not specify how many victims, or for how much money or what those charges would be exactly. Hurlbert did say the charges would be "similar in nature."

"The day it happened, it was a big case, and it was a person who was an upstanding member of community that was alleged to have committed some very serious crimes," Hurlbert said. "[When I heard they found him, my] first reaction was relief. Hopefully we can get some restitution for the victims. There's a lot of good people out of a lot of money."

Daniel's case is going to district court now on Dec. 19. His bond remains at $150,000 cash or surety. During the hearing, Daniel's public defender Reed Owens mentioned to the judge he will be asking for a reduction in bond. It was not further addressed in court Thursday but maybe addressed at further hearings.

Daniel talked to 9NEWS' sister station in San Diego from inside the jail last week.

"It was a pretty pleasant life, not glamorous, but pleasant. I never looked back after leaving Breckenridge. It was very painful to even think of looking back," Daniel said.

Daniel says before he left Breckenridge, he had a job where he was helping to immigrants get legal status. He says it was a job that didn't pay very well, but no one else would do.

"I was just overwhelmed by all of the responsibilities, tasks and many jobs," Daniel said.

When he started to go into debt, Daniel says he pondered drastic actions.

"I kind of decided that I might just drive off a cliff or something, and that's when I called 911," Daniel said.

But Daniel changed his mind and threw away his cellphone. That's when he says he hopped on a few buses to get to Mexico.

Once there, he says he met another American who paid him $700 a month to write content for a website.

"I built a very, very pleasant life there, but I decided, I kind of - it was very difficult to leave the kind of life that I had, so I thought it was best to come back and finish the unfinished chapter," Daniel said with a smile.

Daniel didn't want to get into specifics about the embezzling allegations without an attorney present. He did say the funds he took from clients are still in his account and that he took off for Mexico with only $800.

"One of our theories was that he was out of the country," Chief of Breckenridge Police Rick Holman said. "It doesn't surprise me that that's how he was apprehended."

Daniel says he didn't know if there was a warrant out for him. He says he crossed the border back into the United States unsure of what might happen.

"The whole episode began somewhat extemporaneously, and I suspect it will end the same way," Daniel said.

"I'm happy to know he's alive," Joyce Daniel, Daniel's wife, said.

She didn't want to talk any more about the case, but on Thursday afternoon said she had only received second hand information that Daniel had been found at the border.

"I'm very sorry for everything that happened, and the way it happened. It was not some plan I conceived from the beginning," 'Scoop' Daniel said.

After missing several appointments in 2007, a coworker called authorities starting the search for Daniel. Police say the security camera failed to record when Daniel left the building, but they found his car, keys and his dog still at his office. J.B Katz, a friend and former law partner, says that police initially told her Daniel's office was in some disarray. Katz also says police mentioned a nine-second call to 911.

"In my 13 years as a lawyer in criminal law, I can tell you that the fact that there was a 911 call is disturbing," Katz said.

"A 911 call was made from 'Scoop' Daniel's cell phone at 7:48 a.m. There was a writing pen on the floor and a pair of sunglasses that were broken," Crystal Dean said. "We eliminated the possibility that this is a medical condition, so now we're going off three different angles it could be a physiological condition, foul play, or a willful disappearance."

The case drew a lot of attention around Breckenridge. It was hard to find a window that didn't have a missing person's poster of Royal "Scoop" Daniel III hanging in it, and residents like Richard Light say it's because everyone knows Scoop.

"If you have spent a week or 20 years in this town, you know 'Scoop,'" Light said.

Dean, who is formerly with the Breckenridge Police Department, says the case even gained national attention.

"It has become a national story, and I think just because the strange disappearance, no clues, really. [He's] just gone," Dean said.

Heidi Ruckriegle says Daniel is still the morning talk at the coffee shop where she works.

"He comes up in conversation, certainly when people are talking about scandal. It's a small community and people were really surprised that he could get away with such a thing," Ruckriegle said.

Breckenridge Police Chief Rick Holman says when Daniel disappeared, he left the country with a lot of money.

"We're dealing with several hundreds of thousands of dollars that we believe were stolen," Holman said.

After all this time, victims like Heather Fisher thought Daniel and their money were long gone.

"We paid him probably around two grand, not as much as others, but still a lot, and then he bailed," Fisher said.

Even police admit the case had grown cold until earlier this month when Daniel was found at the border.

"He was traveling on a bus out of Mexico coming across the border coming into the United States," Holman said.

Now that he's behind bars, those who lost money have one big question.

"Is anyone going to get their money back?" Fisher said.

Fifth Judicial District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says the chances are better, but it's still unclear if that money can be recovered.

"That's our main priority right now is getting that money back from here on out," Hurlbert said.

I am fairly new to ID & Disppeared as I just switched cable providers and I love this show! I find myself looking online for more information after the shows to see what other theories and discussions there have been about the cases.
I was watching the one on Samantha Bonell last night. There doesn't seem to be much discussion on websleuths other than the thread that her body had been located. I thought there would be tons of theories as to what happened that night. I dont know what to make of the boyfriend's account of what happened. Has anyone else from this magazine crew ever been located or questioned? It seems too strange that they meet a new crew, she goes off without him for a while and they come back without her. There's so much more to the story that we'll probably never know.

I also thought the Samantha Bonell case was extremely bizarre. How and why was she suddenly in the middle of the freeway?!? I felt so awful for her mother, because it seemed like authorities just wrote it off, like, "yep, we found her body, case closed." I think there are people out there responsible for her death, or who at least know what the heck happened.

I was also surprised there wasn't more speculation on the internet. This is a most intriguing case...

I also thought the Samantha Bonell case was extremely bizarre. How and why was she suddenly in the middle of the freeway?!? I felt so awful for her mother, because it seemed like authorities just wrote it off, like, "yep, we found her body, case closed." I think there are people out there responsible for her death, or who at least know what the heck happened.

I was also surprised there wasn't more speculation on the internet. This is a most intriguing case...

I agree...I was dissapointed to only find 1 small mention on websleuths about this case.

anyone kinda wish we had a sub forum to discuss disappeared cases?

Love this show the way I love UM because of the way its done. Simple, professional, smart, and, taking a page out of the UM book, it has precisely the perfect combination of eery and informative. I've had conversations with friends who hate that there's no resolution at the end of the majority of episodes but I argue that that's the point of the show (again, the majority of the time).

The 1st episode I had seen was the Royal "Scoop" Ivey one and I was hooked at that moment. I just couldn't shake how cool I thought it was that this guy was obviously out there, somewhere in the United States, ducking his head under the covers. It went from "Whoa this is an intriguing mystery whodunnit to...holy **** I KNOW hedunnit but where is that crook?".

Although I have been impressed with every single episode, the next one I remember making a big impression on me was the McStay episode. "Baffling" does not begin to describe that one.

Then there are the ones where its abundantly clear what happened to the person, either by admission of guilt or corroborating physical evidence, however we need some key answers we're never going to get. A couple examples of those would be:

Bison Dele, Serena Karlan, & Bertrand Saldo (his brother killed them, then himself)
Nicqui McCown (that scumbag killed her, as well as that woman 20+ years prior, and then himself. God only knows knows what other women he murdered)
The O'Hares (David Waters killed them, or had someone do it, they were dismembered then deposited somewhere. Waters IS NEVER going to talk.)


Then there are the ones where I'm 99% positive I know what happened but I don't think they can get the case together:

Mike Williams (his wife and her new husband did it, probably at the house but its impossible to get any evidence now. Super frustrating too because of how blatant they were with it in hindsight, and how that poor mother was the sole reason the police took a 2nd look at it. Reminds me of Zel Losef)
Roxanne Paultaf (I know the family doesn't think so and neither does the detective in charge of her case but I think her boyfriend was pimping her out, or trying to get her to start. Whatever the case, they fought and he killed her. I think the deaf guy was a john or someone her boyfriend convinced to help him dispose of her body)
Terrance Williams (I'm not a fan of comparing/contrasting which episodes are better or worse or anything like that because of the real human tragedy that's involved with most of these episodes; with that being said I find this one the most aggravating and inexcusable because of the overhwelmingly suspicious circumstantial evidence against that rat**** police officer. How can they not have a case against this guy? He'll never talk so I don't say it will be easy but does anyone think he isn't behind the disappearance of Terrance Williams?)

Although I have been impressed with every single episode, the next one I remember making a big impression on me was the McStay episode. "Baffling" does not begin to describe that one.

The shows where a whole family goes missing really get to me.
Have you seen the one about the Jamieson's? I found that one really interesting due to all the strange twists and turns it seems to take due to some of the things the Jamieson's were involved in.

I agree...I was dissapointed to only find 1 small mention on websleuths about this case.

anyone kinda wish we had a sub forum to discuss disappeared cases?

Hell yes! Best true crime show on tv today!

Love this show the way I love UM because of the way its done. Simple, professional, smart, and, taking a page out of the UM book, it has precisely the perfect combination of eery and informative. I've had conversations with friends who hate that there's no resolution at the end of the majority of episodes but I argue that that's the point of the show (again, the majority of the time).

Agree. I also agree with you on Terrence Williams and Mike Williams cases as well. Ive seen people prosecuted for a lot less than both of those cases. Not sure why the cop in Terrence's case hasn't been charged yet.

The one that really got to me (I cant remember her name) was the story of the lady who worked for the Ford plant and was dating a married co-worker. She told her family they were going out of town to Canada and to watch her daughter. She had also lent this man her life savings, upwards of 90k. She was never seen again yet hair and fibers of hers were found in his truck, her scent was traced in her home and backyard and a t-shirt she bought for him was found in his home (yet he denied having an affair with her or borrowing money from her). Her sister's stories both broke my heart and infuriated me to no end. I hope to God they some day prosecute that worthless POS.

I agree...I was dissapointed to only find 1 small mention on websleuths about this case.

anyone kinda wish we had a sub forum to discuss disappeared cases?

Karen, you can discuss any other missing cases on the "All Other Cases" sub forum here. :)

Big fan of Disappeared here. Maybe you guys have heard of this but I just heard a few days ago on Disappeared's FB page that Tim Carney has been located! It seems as though this information was just released recently (correct me if I'm wrong) but he was found back in September!!

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/disappeared/the-missing/tim-carney.html

http://www.northjersey.com/news/141797983_Seven-year_search_for_Butler_man_brings_good_news.html

I know when you're an adult it isn't against the law to disappear but you really have to feel for his family. They did so much to try and find him and now that he's located he doesn't want to see them. Parents wonder if the "Gospel Outreach" organization he was involved with is why.

Karen, you can discuss any other missing cases on the "All Other Cases" sub forum here. :)

Big fan of Disappeared here. Maybe you guys have heard of this but I just heard a few days ago on Disappeared's FB page that Tim Carney has been located! It seems as though this information was just released recently (correct me if I'm wrong) but he was found back in September!!

http://investigation.discovery.com/tv/disappeared/the-missing/tim-carney.html

http://www.northjersey.com/news/141797983_Seven-year_search_for_Butler_man_brings_good_news.html

I know when you're an adult it isn't against the law to disappear but you really have to feel for his family. They did so much to try and find him and now that he's located he doesn't want to see them. Parents wonder if the "Gospel Outreach" organization he was involved with is why.

WOW! This is excellent news! Although apparently he still is in that cult and does not wish to speak to his family, at least we know he is alive and well.

The one that really got to me (I cant remember her name) was the story of the lady who worked for the Ford plant and was dating a married co-worker. She told her family they were going out of town to Canada and to watch her daughter. She had also lent this man her life savings, upwards of 90k. She was never seen again yet hair and fibers of hers were found in his truck, her scent was traced in her home and backyard and a t-shirt she bought for him was found in his home (yet he denied having an affair with her or borrowing money from her). Her sister's stories both broke my heart and infuriated me to no end. I hope to God they some day prosecute that worthless POS.

That was the Patti Adkins case. She and the suspect worked at the Honda of America plant in Ohio. I just re-watched this episode recently, and I still can't fathom why an otherwise intelligent, responsible, levelheaded mom would hand over $99,000, borrow more money against her 401(k) and take out cash from her credit cards for some married loser who wouldn't even be seen in public with her and then agree to such a far-fetched "getaway" idea. He tells her, "Hey, let's go away to Canada. I can't tell you where we're going, but it's so remote there aren't any phones. You won't need to pack anything, we can just pick it up on the way. I have to drive a buddy home and since we can't be seen together and all, I want you to hide in the bed of my truck under my newly purchased tonneau cover and not make a sound as we drive away in darkness" and she goes for it.

I never blame the victim -- the likely perp in this case sounds like a con man and probably a sociopath, and his wife doesn't come off much better -- but good grief, Ms. Adkins sure wasn't using her head when she agreed to go away with him. You want me to ride in the bed of your truck? Are you kidding? If I'm not good enough to ride up front, you're not good enough for me. It's a shame Patti didn't realize that she was worth so much more.

The case against this guy -- and I will gladly name him, if the mods allow it, since his name has appeared in the local press and on other sites -- is so overwhelming, it really angers me that the DA is dragging his feet on bringing the suspect to trial. He keeps saying he's waiting on technology to advance the point where he can test the spot of blood found on the tonneau cover without destroying the sample entirely, but frankly I think he just wants a slam-dunk case. Honestly, though, as a poster said on another board, I'd convict him on the cat hair alone. (It wasn't Patti's hair that was found in his truck, it was hair that was proven conclusively to have come from one of her cats. She'd boarded them just prior to going away with the suspect.)

There's also the t-shirt, the card he admitted to getting from her, his (and his wife's) strange behavior on the phone with the victim's sisters, the fact that he'd only bought that tonneau cover just days before Patti disappeared and the statement by the guy who sold it to him that they weren't normally used on that type of truck (a truck from his shop that he didn't normally drive) -- the circumstantial case against him is almost overwhelming, and a whole lot of people have been convicted with less. Ugh, sorry, this case just frustrates me to no end!

There's also the t-shirt, the card he admitted to getting from her, his (and his wife's) strange behavior on the phone with the victim's sisters, the fact that he'd only bought that tonneau cover just days before Patti disappeared and the statement by the guy who sold it to him that they weren't normally used on that type of truck (a truck from his shop that he didn't normally drive) -- the circumstantial case against him is almost overwhelming, and a whole lot of people have been convicted with less. Ugh, sorry, this case just frustrates me to no end!

Absolutely agree. Tons have been convicted on a lot less. Please DM the name of the person if you don't mind.

We renewed our Netflix again after a long hiatus and I was THRILLED to see the '09-'11 seasons are all there! So I've been watching.

Does anyone remember the case of Brandy Hall, the firefighter? Her truck was found submerged in a pond the day she was supposed to testify at her husband's sentencing hearing (he was actually the fire chief, and had been arrested for cultivating marijuana). I'm kind of at a loss on that one. What do you all think happened?

I'm from Poland sorry for my english.
Disappeared is aired international so here are my thoughts about the case of Samantha.
First i send my prayers to her family and all her close friends who i think miss her so much.
Samantha was beautiful girl, pretty eyes and smile, so sad shes no longer among us.
I think Samantha had major depression, there are numerous studies on pubmed about people living in Alaska and their aggravating depression.
There are claims up to 30% of Alaska women hahave some sort od depressive disorders due to malfunction of diurnal and nocturnal rhythms of melatonin, cortisol and other hormones.
There is a study that clearly links Alaskan society with depression and very often alcoholism.
I think Samantha had been taking some kind of antidepressants which are even worse on the long term basis. They aggravate depression and create dependency
Suspicious are people who Samantha went with to the cinema the tragic night. I think they had used some kind of drugs just before going to the cinema show. I think they gave it to Samantha which in case of her history of depression and some kind of maybe SSRI or something else use was at this point very detrimental.
Drugs with the mix of past antidepressant use is deadly. Deadly for your brain. I think Samntha didnt even know where she was that night and what was she doing.
But maybe it isnt the problem, still thinking of the suspicious people who seen her that night. Police should questioned them, all teens who been with her in that cinema. I dont belive in her "crying and ran out of the show". Samnthas boyfriend is positive person, i mean he could indeed tell her not to go that night but i think he has nothing with her death.
And what about her ex boyfriend? Didnt they met that night? Dont You think he has something with this case ( they say about him in the show, taht Samantha sometimes escaped to him).
And what about the fact that young pretty girl under the influence of some substances given to her by her new "friends" going alone from the cinema down the street somewhere in california at late pm is a good target to some males seeking young lonely women?dont you think she ran across the streets and highway because of something like this? She was escaping. Maybe they caught her in some point and she was able to escape on the highway. I dont know , maybe the american reality is different but thats my thoughts

I heard recently that they'd found Noah Pippin's remains. Jury's currently out, but in all likelihood, he either commited suicide or succumbed to the elements out on the trail. That's kind of what I figured happened to him. :( Poor guy.

What do y'all think of the Brayden Fuksa case? That's another that really breaks your heart. If the kid had just stayed and faced the music, he likely wouldn't have suffered as much as he was afraid he would...poor kid...

Is anyone familiar with the disappearance of Leigh Occhi? She was a 13 yr old girl who disappeared from her home in 1992 in Tupelo, MS right before Hurricane Andrew hit? I haven't seen it on any true crime shows but I remember discussing this case in college in one of my classes and was curious if anyone on here is familiar with it.

Is anyone familiar with the disappearance of Leigh Occhi? She was a 13 yr old girl who disappeared from her home in 1992 in Tupelo, MS right before Hurricane Andrew hit? I haven't seen it on any true crime shows but I remember discussing this case in college in one of my classes and was curious if anyone on here is familiar with it.

I haven't heard of it until you mentioned it and then googled it. Such a sad story! Here is a recent article on her case:

http://djournal.com/view/full_story/19934058/article-Tupelo-teen-s-disappearance-remains-a-mystery?instance=home_news_bullets

I heard recently that they'd found Noah Pippin's remains. Jury's currently out, but in all likelihood, he either commited suicide or succumbed to the elements out on the trail. That's kind of what I figured happened to him. :( Poor guy.

What do y'all think of the Brayden Fuksa case? That's another that really breaks your heart. If the kid had just stayed and faced the music, he likely wouldn't have suffered as much as he was afraid he would...poor kid...

I remember watching the Brayden Fuksa episode; that one was indeed very mysterious. I believe his car was found, but no real evidence of anything nefarious happening? Reminds me of the Don Kemp UM episode...all that desolate prairie...I wonder if we will ever find him?

Ok peeps, I've only JUST discovered this show on the forbidden site. So far I've watched 2 Episodes and it's been very interesting. The first Episode I watched was about the 35 year old who went missing in December 2009 in remote mountains whilst trying to locate the Flying Dutchman Goldmine (If it even exists) in Arizona. From what I've read on the internet he's still missing.
The second Episode I watched was about a incredibly attractive Guy with a hideous surname (Michael "Bradyn" Fuksa). He abandoned his Vehicle in Wyoming and appeared to be running from an upcoming court case over some money he pinched from his workplace. I felt sorry for his folks here. The second Girlfriend seemed a bit out there as did the Mechanic who changed Bradyn's blown tyre.
I'm going to watch a third Episode right now - The Dark Ravine: Mandy Stokes.

I'm going to watch a third Episode right now - The Dark Ravine: Mandy Stokes.

What bothered me about the Mandy Stokes case (as well as SO many other cases on Disappeared and UM) is that it's obvious (to me) who is involved, yet police are basically at a standstill. So, I consider these episodes "half-unsolved." We know the person disappeared, but we can also be fairly certain a.) they're actually deceased and are never coming back, and b.) who was responsible (usually a spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend).

No Disappeared on tonight (2/11). I think they are canceling the show. The IMDB site might not be a fluke.

Even that show (which has lots of bull**** like the mother criticizing her missing daughtrer etc....) is too serious for ID. They need more "I ****ed Your Psycho Wife And Then She Turned Me Into A Serial Killer" type shows.

No Disappeared on tonight (2/11). I think they are canceling the show. The IMDB site might not be a fluke.
It's also worth pointing out that ID has not aired any commercials for Disappeared.

I hope I'm wrong but I think Disappeared may have gotten canned...:mad:

I'm just starting to get into this series. Trying to record it and make a set, but got a lot of projects going on. Not sure what's going on with the show, but at least repeats are still airing during the day. I do know that OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network) also airs the show sometimes, so hopefully there's a possibility that network could pick it up if something happened to it on ID. I do get both of those networks. OWN got a recent boost due to Oprah's interview with doper Lance Armstrong.

Sorta O/T but my TV is off. Turned it on to watch The Walking Dead's new episode. Will probably turn it back on to watch TWD on sunday. Everything else is just.... blah.

What bothered me about the Mandy Stokes case (as well as SO many other cases on Disappeared and UM) is that it's obvious (to me) who is involved, yet police are basically at a standstill. So, I consider these episodes "half-unsolved." We know the person disappeared, but we can also be fairly certain a.) they're actually deceased and are never coming back, and b.) who was responsible (usually a spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend).


Hey SheRaaa (Great screen name BTW ;) ) I'm currently watching the case of Mike Williams on the forbidden Site. A fairly successful Real Estate employee in Florida who went missing after setting out to Swamplands to shoot Ducks on the 16th December 2000. Like most of the other viewers I'm thinking the Wife is behind his disappearance. She began a relationship with his best friend not long after he went missing and cashed in on a 1.5 million dollar life insurance policy he had! It's the oldest trick in the book. The general jist of this whole case is that he never set out to the swamps at all but was murdered at his home by the wife and boyfriend. :(

It's also worth pointing out that ID has not aired any commercials for Disappeared.

I hope I'm wrong but I think Disappeared may have gotten canned...:mad:

It's looking like ID may have cancelled it. There's an episode this afternoon, then no other on ID till March 4, and none of those are new episodes. This is according to my Dish program guide. Of course it's been wrong before with this show.

It's looking like ID may have cancelled it. There's an episode this afternoon, then no other on ID till March 4, and none of those are new episodes. This is according to my Dish program guide. Of course it's been wrong before with this show.

The episode happened to be none other than Leah Roberts, who was profiled on UM. It is a possibility that the Dish Network guide is wrong, however, networks are notorious for making last minute changes. All the time. As for ID's programming, it's been here, there and everywhere as of late.

This show is kind of like the media, seems to focus on attractive young white women.

Weird, as I was reading the previous comment I was watching the episode on Randy Morganson the mountain man.

Honestly, I'm still hoping for an episode on Dale Kerstetter.

I just watched “The Vortex” episode which profiles the disappearance of Ben McDaniel. He was last seen in Ponce De Leon, Florida. He had been scuba diving and had gotten past “The Gate” which led to a dangerous area of the cave and requires a key to get past. He did not have the key and forced his way through and additionally, did not have the certification to obtain the key.

I gotta say, while I do have sympathy for the family, especially since another one of their sons died unexpectedly at a young age just a few years prior, I found them to be totally obnoxious. It was pretty obvious Ben had died and they just hadn’t discovered the body (there are several very remote areas of the cave that one can reach, but can’t turn around in.), yet they were clinging on to the foul play theory. The authorities pulled surveillance tapes and didn’t find anything suspicious in the area. The family even went so far as to solicit for people in the newspaper to go in the remote areas of the cave and try to find their dead son, which is very dangerous (2 of the people who tried to find Ben nearly died themselves.) The family also insisted Ben had the appropriate knowledge to access the area past “The Gate”, which is obviously baloney because he apparently died, and additionally, he did not have the certification or licenses.

Here’s a link to his Charley Project page, though it’s pretty vague.
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcdaniel_benjamin.html

I discovered that there is a second episode produced for the 5th season, that as of this date, has not aired. Ironically, the episode title is "Final Season".

I also thought the Samantha Bonell case was extremely bizarre. How and why was she suddenly in the middle of the freeway?!? I felt so awful for her mother, because it seemed like authorities just wrote it off, like, "yep, we found her body, case closed." I think there are people out there responsible for her death, or who at least know what the heck happened.

I was also surprised there wasn't more speculation on the internet. This is a most intriguing case...

Eh, I don't think so. Witnesses said she had a blank stare and it was pretty clear to me she was on drugs and had a history of it. Though I do think the authorities delay in filing a missing persons report when asked (and their subsequent mistakes in doing so) was disappointing, there wasn't any indication somebody was responsible for Samantha Bonnell's death. She had a long history of running away and being a problem child and this time it caught up with her.

I've been watching "Disappeared" on Netflix, and I saw the case of Michele Whitaker for the first time. She was missing for six years, and she was even suspected of being a victim of the same man who killed Dana Satterfield (who was profiled on UM). My jaw almost dropped on the floor when they found her alive and well and actually interviewed her for the program!

Honestly, I'm still hoping for an episode on Dale Kerstetter.


That would be amazing! Dale's daughter posts on the thread on him on the Unsolved Mysteries board. Hopefully her or her family have tried to get Disappeared to cover her dad's case.

I discovered that there is a second episode produced for the 5th season, that as of this date, has not aired. Ironically, the episode title is "Final Season".

So it has in fact, been cancelled?

So it has in fact, been cancelled?


Word around the Campfire is that it's been cancelled. What a shame. I really got into the show this past month.

Just goes to show no one cares about missing persons anymore.

We've just become desensitized to that with the bad economy and wars.

Just goes to show no one cares about missing persons anymore.

That's a false statement.

I agree with the majority here (on page 2) about Maura Murray. The show went to great lengths to portray her as this All-American girl (Dean's List, West Point, etc), but she had serious issues. I'm still scratching my head, wondering how a person can total 2 cars in a 3-day period. I also get the impression she was drinking and driving and trying to hide the alcohol by putting it in a Coke bottle. The show said she went to the liquor store and got a huge box of wine, a bottle of Kahlua's, a bottle of vodka and something else. I think she had a drinking problem, which caused her to wreck 2 cars and she didn't want to deal with it and left. It was also stated she was overly worried about the first car (her dad's) even though his insurance covered it and he told her not to worry about it.

Wow. Just saw the Mandy Stokes one. The show very much pointed the finger of suspicion DIRECTLY at one of her brother's (Aaron) whom she resided with at the time, but after re-reading her Charley Project page, I don't know what to think.

Her abandoned car was found to have a dead battery, so that would explain why she left it. And, as the show mentioned, while Aaron was the last person known to have seen her, she did talk to her boyfriend on the phone afterwards, and the conversation was normal. There's also the possibility she had another nervous breakdown and something happened to her as a result of that, as she had a nervous breakdown just a few days before.

It is sad because she was preparing to move to New York City to be with her boyfriend and she was very much looking forward to it.

ugh, I hate this!

For everyone who doesn't know, Discovery recently released a press release with it's 2013/14 schedule and Disappeared is NOT in the returning shows category (or anywhere else in the press release for that matter)

Does this mean the show has been cancelled? Is there anyway to find out? If someone knows anything or finds out anything... please let us know! Disappeared is easily the best show ID has.

ugh, I hate this!

For everyone who doesn't know, Discovery recently released a press release with it's 2013/14 schedule and Disappeared is NOT in the returning shows category (or anywhere else in the press release for that matter)

Does this mean the show has been cancelled? Is there anyway to find out? If someone knows anything or finds out anything... please let us know! Disappeared is easily the best show ID has.

I think you mean Investigation Discovery. Discovery is an entirely different network.

Does anyone remember the case of Brandy Hall, the firefighter? Her truck was found submerged in a pond the day she was supposed to testify at her husband's sentencing hearing (he was actually the fire chief, and had been arrested for cultivating marijuana). I'm kind of at a loss on that one. What do you all think happened?

I'm stumped, as with most cases on Disappeared. But I can tell you the husband irritated the hell out of me. I mean, they had a good life, he had a good job as the fire chief, she was making good money, they had 2 children. And then he decides to grow a marijuana farm and offers up this idiotic statement: "We didn't think about the ramifications of it." God. So he loses his job, serves time and Brandy, who had an exemplary record at her firefighting job and had stacks of certifications about 3 or 4 inches thick, gets arrested because the property was in both their names, and subsequently gets fired, they have financial difficulties, and it may have been the cause of her disappearance and possible murder. All because of her ******** husband.

God I wanted to belt his buns.

I'm stumped on this one too.hard for me to form an opinion in the way ID presented the case.

I'm stumped, as with most cases on Disappeared. But I can tell you the husband irritated the hell out of me. I mean, they had a good life, he had a good job as the fire chief, she was making good money, they had 2 children. And then he decides to grow a marijuana farm and offers up this idiotic statement: "We didn't think about the ramifications of it." God. So he loses his job, serves time and Brandy, who had an exemplary record at her firefighting job and had stacks of certifications about 3 or 4 inches thick, gets arrested because the property was in both their names, and subsequently gets fired, they have financial difficulties, and it may have been the cause of her disappearance and possible murder. All because of her ******** husband.

God I wanted to belt his buns.

I know. They had absolutely everything going for them, and then he decides to engage in probably about the most brainless thing you could do while being employed in a uniformed public service. I couldn't believe that when I saw the episode for the first time.

I'm stumped on this one too.hard for me to form an opinion in the way ID presented the case.

Yes, that's the thing. It's difficult to discern just from the segment. I'm actually kind of willing to entertain the notion she could have just run away, but that has more to do with our lack of information than anything we have from the episode.

It has been cancelled. Note how it is not on the list of returning series.

http://press.discovery.com/us/discovery-corporate/press-releases/2013/investigation-discovery-announces-largest-sla-2413/

It has been cancelled. Note how it is not on the list of returning series.

http://press.discovery.com/us/discovery-corporate/press-releases/2013/investigation-discovery-announces-largest-sla-2413/But at least we got this!

TABLOID

Salacious headlines. Surreal true-life stories. Who doesn't scan the supermarket tabloids in the checkout line? Investigation Discovery (ID) introduces TABLOID, a new weekly series guaranteed to satisfy inquiring minds. Hosted by the Emmy Award-winning king of tabloid television, Jerry Springer, TABLOID peels back the curtain to probe the most bizarre larger-than-life stories you can't possibly imagine. Springer, who's no stranger to the sensational, brings more than 20 years of experience working with over-the-top characters to help guide viewers through these outrageous tales -- baring all of the horrific action, twists and turns, and macabre motivations behind eye-catching headlines.I'm think done with this channel.

"TABLOID"? "Jerry Springer"?

Looks like we'll have to rely on the Kardashians and the Honey Boo Boo clan for sophisticated, cerebral entertainment. :rolleyes:

I got rid of TV back in March and I don't miss it one bit.

They overlooked the fact that Into the Wild is about a young man who dies after going off on his own to live in the wilderness.!

Not really. It was mentioned in the broadcast.

I just saw the Tara Grinstead one. She was a former beauty queen and pageant winner, so naturally, the media descended on this case like vultures, complicating the investigation as a result because they leaked several pieces of info the police didn't give them permission to.

the episode stated there were no signs of a struggle at her home and the Charley Project page says the same thing, but it also says that her alarm clock was on the floor broken, one of her bedposts was damaged, there were beads scattered on the floor, and her lampshade was askew. Sounds like signs of a struggle to me.

I don't know what to make of the married police officer. Calling her 2 dozen times sounds like Charlotte Polis's mom level obsessive.

Tara's sister really grated my nerves in the episode. She kept talking about how beautiful Tara was, as if she would have loved an ugly sister less. Then she says the former student of Tara's was "very violent" because he had banged on her door one day. And then she thought the ex boyfriend was suspcious because he had been in the Army and they have rigorous training there and he can withstand a lot of punishment. Nothing she said really made any degree of sense. She also looked incredibly old to be Tara's sister.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grinstead_tara.html

I think this was either a random attack, or a stranger who had his eye on her.

I've bought all 6 seasons of this show from Amazon on demand. Working my way through season 6 now.

Wow. Just saw the Royal "Scoop" Daniel one and that was the best one yet. One of the interviewees made an absoultely grand quote: "Even if you found him in bed with your wife, you couldn't be mad at him." BHWHAHAHAHA!!! And you gotta love the absolutely ridicilous picture of him wearing that crown.

I had a feeling towards the end of the episode that he left due to impending legal problems, but prior to that, I had no idea. I'm still baffled how the bank camera showed him entering his office, but not leaving it. Awk. Ward. And the part about the 911 call was just downright creepy.

I think Disappeared must do what UM did by editing out parts to make room for the update. I saw at several points they had written down things like "broken glasses" on the washboard, but never mentioned them in the segment.

Anyone know when new episodes are coming?

I don't know, there's a frustrating lack of information about this show online. I "liked" it on fb, but even its page doesn't have much data on it.

I just saw the Zebb Quinn one. I remember reading the charley project profile some time back and thinking this case was really bizarre, and watching the episode, it seems even more bizarre. This case went down to the bizarre buffet, took a big helping, then came back for seconds.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/q/quinn_zebb.html

Now if that wasn't enough for you, here's the additional info from the episode. Jason Owens claimed that he got into a SECOND automobile accident, but investigators couldn't find any paperwork or anything from it. Owens was later arrested for fleeing and shooting at a police officer. He's a good suspect. But, he's not the only one, in fact there's a whole group of them.

The woman talked about in the cp link is named Misty. Zebb had a crush on her, but she had a boyfriend and a baby by him, and apparently wasn't interested in Zebb that way. Misty's alibi was that she was at her home with her boyfriend, baby, her parents and Zebb's own aunt. The last page that Zebb ever got on his pager -- the one he left Jason Owens for to go answer, was from Zebb's aunt's house. The aunt was confronted with this info, but denied having made the page. A witness later came forward to state that she witnessed someone other than Zebb driving his car after the time he disappeared. A sketch artist drew a composite based on the witnesses description and it closely matched Misty.

No idea what to think here. They speculated on Disappeared that somebody parked Zebb's car and left the puppy, huge lips and exclamation points to draw attention to it so that it would be found. That's as good as guess as I have.

I just saw the Zebb Quinn one. I remember reading the charley project profile some time back and thinking this case was really bizarre, and watching the episode, it seems even more bizarre. This case went down to the bizarre buffet, took a big helping, then came back for seconds.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/q/quinn_zebb.html

Now if that wasn't enough for you, here's the additional info from the episode. Jason Owens claimed that he got into a SECOND automobile accident, but investigators couldn't find any paperwork or anything from it. Owens was later arrested for fleeing and shooting at a police officer. He's a good suspect. But, he's not the only one, in fact there's a whole group of them.

The woman talked about in the cp link is named Misty. Zebb had a crush on her, but she had a boyfriend and a baby by him, and apparently wasn't interested in Zebb that way. Misty's alibi was that she was at her home with her boyfriend, baby, her parents and Zebb's own aunt. The last page that Zebb ever got on his pager -- the one he left Jason Owens for to go answer, was from Zebb's aunt's house. The aunt was confronted with this info, but denied having made the page. A witness later came forward to state that she witnessed someone other than Zebb driving his car after the time he disappeared. A sketch artist drew a composite based on the witnesses description and it closely matched Misty.

No idea what to think here. They speculated on Disappeared that somebody parked Zebb's car and left the puppy, huge lips and exclamation points to draw attention to it so that it would be found. That's as good as guess as I have.

That's one of the weirdest I've ever heard--on either CP or Disappeared. Can't wait to see the episode.

I don't know why, but I get a weird feeling that Misty or someone close to her is more likely to be responsible, despite Owens being a good suspect.

I think it's possible that Owens may have been working in collusion with Misty, her boyfriend and that group, although the authorities couldn't find any evidence of such. I have no idea what the possible motive would be. By accounts, Zebb was a quiet, unassuming person and not the kind of person this typically happens to. Somebody had speculated that Zebb might have had a large wad of cash on his person, but do people really buy vehicles after 9 p.m.?

Somebody had speculated that Zebb might have had a large wad of cash on his person, but do people really buy vehicles after 9 p.m.?

Yeah, that's unusual. That is unless the purchaser is simply naive to the notion they may be getting set up for a robbery--or murder-robbery, perhaps. It seems plausible.

I don't know, there's a frustrating lack of information about this show online. I "liked" it on fb, but even its page doesn't have much data on it.

It was already explained that it was cancelled.

It was already explained that it was cancelled.

no, you and your defeatist beavior just concluded that it was. I understand it wasn't on the schedule, but networks change the schedule. All the time. Nobody, yourself included, has found definitive proof that it was cancelled.

Just saw the Mike Williams one. I agree with everyone on here that the wife and the best friend did it. What's really sickening is that Mike had a good job and was making a quarter of a million a year but that just wasn't *quite* good enough for his wife, she had to kill him because she wanted the million and a half worth of life insurance. Revolting.

I absolutely love Mike's mom. What a sweet old Southern lady. I love how she didn't let the wife's threat of cutting off contact with the granddaughter stop her from investigating Mike's death (the wife probably would have cut off contact with her anyways since she rarely visited the Williams family before all this occurred.) She was also throwing down some wicked fashions: pony tails and a loud, single diagonal striped shirt.

I also agree that I'm not sure Lake Seminole is the crime scene. I think it's entirely possible he was killed elsewhere and that Lake Seminole is as every bit of a decoy as the ones in Mike's boat he used for hunting. Has LE ever checked vehicles, houses, etc? There could still be evidence.

Then there are the ones where its abundantly clear what happened to the person, either by admission of guilt or corroborating physical evidence, however we need some key answers we're never going to get. A couple examples of those would be:

Bison Dele, Serena Karlan, & Bertrand Saldo (his brother killed them, then himself)


That was a real depressing one. Bison had saved up like 10 million dollars from his basketball days even though he hated the sport and just wanted to settle down with Serena, sail around the world and lived comfortably. Then his family, particularly his brother Miles, wouldn't stop hitting him up for money. Then Miles visits them in New Zealand, unannounced, won't stop arguing with them, kills them, then tries to blame it all on Bison. And what did Miles want the money for? Get-rick-quick schemes. I'm like "Bison has 10 mil, he's already rich." God. I wasn't saddened at all to hear Miles committed suicide once the authorities started catching up with him.

I've been watching "Disappeared" on Netflix, and I saw the case of Michele Whitaker for the first time. She was missing for six years, and she was even suspected of being a victim of the same man who killed Dana Satterfield (who was profiled on UM). My jaw almost dropped on the floor when they found her alive and well and actually interviewed her for the program!

It's been so long since I saw this Disappeared episode, so I'm a little fuzzy on how far they went into the background about the Jonathan Vick theory. I actually just saw the Forensic Files episode on Dana Satterfield for the first time. Vick is still considered a suspect in the 2002 disappearance of his former fiancee, Heather Rena Sellars. Michelle Whitaker was actually a co-worker of Heather's, which is how I suppose LE made the connection with Vick. In any event, it's all a rather bizarre set of circumstances.

Huh, thought this was interesting. I just saw the Brandi Wells case. The night before her disappearance, she visited Jenette Green, who was a club manager and long-time family friend. Jenette warned Brandi to be safe after hearing about her plans to go to a nightclub alone in a high-crime area of Texas. Jenette was concerned because her own sister, Glenda Moorehead, had disappeared from a bar and was presumed killed.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/moorehead_glenda.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wells_brandi.html

Investigation Discovery has released the list of 2013 - 2014 shows. Both new *AND* returning shows. Guess which show is not listed as returning? Yes, that's right.

Oh and btw - " The full list of new and returning original series for the 2013-14 Upfront season include the following:"

The full list. Not a partial list. Disappeared is not returning anytime soon. Maybe in late 2014 if enough people demand it - or maybe they can get Oprah's channel or another channel to pick them up.

http://press.discovery.com/us/id/programs/ID-upfront-2013-2014/

Investigation Discovery has released the list of 2013 - 2014 shows. Both new *AND* returning shows. Guess which show is not listed as returning? Yes, that's right.

Oh and btw - " The full list of new and returning original series for the 2013-14 Upfront season include the following:"

The full list. Not a partial list. Disappeared is not returning anytime soon. Maybe in late 2014 if enough people demand it - or maybe they can get Oprah's channel or another channel to pick them up.

http://press.discovery.com/us/id/programs/ID-upfront-2013-2014/

But they keep Scorned: Love Kills? :rolleyes:

I think Disappeared does a really good job of selecting which cases to profile. A lot of the most intriguing Charley Project stories (out of the more recent ones anyway) I have noticed have been profiled on the show.

But they keep Scorned: Love Kills? :rolleyes:

Oh, I know. I can't stand those "love gone bad" shows. Lately ID has been showing way too many of those and I can't stand it.

But they keep Scorned: Love Kills? :rolleyes:They're also adding shows like this as I mentioned before:

TABLOID
Salacious headlines. Surreal true-life stories. Who doesn't scan the supermarket tabloids in the checkout line? Investigation Discovery (ID) introduces TABLOID, a new weekly series guaranteed to satisfy inquiring minds. Hosted by the Emmy Award-winning king of tabloid television, Jerry Springer, TABLOID peels back the curtain to probe the most bizarre larger-than-life stories you can't possibly imagine. Springer, who's no stranger to the sensational, brings more than 20 years of experience working with over-the-top characters to help guide viewers through these outrageous tales -- baring all of the horrific action, twists and turns, and macabre motivations behind eye-catching headlines.Disappeared is clearly their best show. Not bringing it back is a mistake.

Did anyone see the Joey Lynn Offutt one? That one was BIZARRE. Here is the CP link, but it doesn't tell the whole story, so I'll fill in the gaps.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/offutt_joey.html

Joey had a fiancee and two children with him, including a newborn, and they each had a child from different relationships. Joey was 33 years old and was described as behaving like a 14 year old and possibly had other mental issues. Her mother stated that whenever she had a disagreement with Joey that she didn't react well at all and would "shut down". The mother had warned the fiancee about this. On July 3, 2007, Joey and her fiancee had a disagreement as he didn't approve of her bathing the child in the dirty kitchen sink. Joey apparently stormed out of the house with the baby (her other child with her fiancee was staying with relatives) and went back to her own house.

Now this is where it gets strange. Starting on July 4, her fiancee attempts to contact her through various means: cell phone and visits to her house, but Joey doesn't respond to any of them. He continues this for the next week or so and figures that Joey is avoiding him, which seems logical. But another person, I believe it was a home health care worker or something like that, also pays numerous visits to Joey's house and she is also unable to get Joey to answer. Handwritten messages are left and still she does not respond.

On July 4, when her fiancee visited her house, he noticed her red Saturn was parked at the house. During subsequent visits, the car disappeared, reappeared, then disappeared again. There was one eyewitness sighting of Joey around this time, from a neighbor who said that he saw Joey pushing the stroller, but isn't sure the baby was in it at the time. He also stated Joey did not address him, which was not her usual custom.

Joey's house had an explosion at 4 a.m. on July 12, 8 days after her husband last saw her. The house then burned to the ground. It was determined to be arson, set in 2 different places (the basement and the bathroom, which I believe was upstairs) and an unspecified accelerant was used. Sadly, the baby was found dead in the rubble, but it was determined the baby had died before the fire.

Joey's red Saturn reappeared again on July 15, but this time it was 2 hours away in an apartment complex she used to live at. A witness said the car had been there as early as July 13 and possibly the day before that, which would be the same day as the fire/explosion. Over 6 years later, Joey Lynn still has not been found. It has been stated she was overly trusting, naive and enjoyed meeting people on the internet, one of which wanted her to star in a pornography movie.

I have no idea what to think here. Was she responsible for her baby's death, either directly or perhaps negligible homicide? Was she really at her home during the 8 days practically nobody saw her, or did she disappear before that? What was with the car and it's constant appearances and disappearances? Did she and her baby meet with foul play?

I think this case went down to the bizarre bazaar.

One of my favorites is the William Smolinski case. His family believes his ex-girlfriend is involved in his disappearance, especially since she was allegedly filmed tearing down missing posters of him and writing "WHO CARES?" on some of them. That part is like something you'd see on a UM episode. An informant said that his ex-girlfriend's son strangled him and buried his body, but the son died of a drug overdose before he could talk. There's still no clear answer on what really happened, but I do believe he's dead.

I found the ex-girlfriend to be disgusting! I think one of the worst parts was when she was tearing down the missing posters while she was on her school bus route. She should have been fired for that!

Wow. Just saw the Royal "Scoop" Daniel one and that was the best one yet. One of the interviewees made an absoultely grand quote: "Even if you found him in bed with your wife, you couldn't be mad at him." BHWHAHAHAHA!!! And you gotta love the absolutely ridicilous picture of him wearing that crown.

I had a feeling towards the end of the episode that he left due to impending legal problems, but prior to that, I had no idea. I'm still baffled how the bank camera showed him entering his office, but not leaving it. Awk. Ward. And the part about the 911 call was just downright creepy.

I think Disappeared must do what UM did by editing out parts to make room for the update. I saw at several points they had written down things like "broken glasses" on the washboard, but never mentioned them in the segment.

I LOVED the Scoop Daniel episode. Not only is Scoop the best nickname ever, but it was definitely a refreshing thing to have someone turn up alive and well on Disappeared, and especially if that person embezzled money from a number of people:

http://www.denverpost.com/ci_20436212/runaway-breckenridge-attorney-scoop-daniel-sentenced-12-years

I noticed OWN chops off 1-2 minutes per episode, so they can get more commercials in (I guess 17 minutes of commercials per 1 hour program wasn't making enough money for the already insanely wealthy Oprah).

Saw the episode on Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos and honestly have no idea what to make of it. On the one hand, both men had reasons to want to disappear. Williams was facing problems with the law because of child support payments, and Santos was involved in an accident (driving without a license or registration), and faced deportation back to Mexico. On the other hand, it's strange that the last person to see them alive is a shady police officer who just so happened to drop both men off at the same exact place. On "Disappeared" the show said that no one remembers seeing either Williams or the officer (Steven Calkins) at the Circle K convenience store that Calkins says he dropped him off at. But on the Charley Project website, there was an employee who says she saw both Calkins and Williams inside the store and that Williams left by himself. I have problems with certain aspects of the case and I can't make my mind up on it one way or the other.

-I can't see any reason as to why this officer who had a spotless record of 17 years (and also received several commendations) would pull over two people, presumeably murder them and hide their bodies soley because they were driving without licenses. The motive is not there.
-Calkins passed two lie detector tests, but failed certain questions on a third one. The questions he failed were whether or not he saw Williams again after dropping him off at the Circle K, and whether or not he actually obtained information from Williams car.
-Williams allegedly told Calkins that he worked at the Circle K and begged him to take him there because he had to get to work. Calkins claims to have called there later to speak to him, but no one at the Circle K remembers anything about any officer calling the store.
-Calkins was exonerated in the investigation of Felipe Santos. There has to be more information that's not being made public as to why.
-Since when do police officers give free rides to people who apparently were breaking the law by driving without a license?

I really don't know what happened with Williams, but it seems, IMHO, that Santos had more of a reason to flee. According to Charley Project he was here illegally, and faced jail time and/or deportation if he got convicted for the offenses in which he was stopped (driving without a license, registration, etc.) I don't think the disappearances are related, and I think it's possible that Santos fled back to Mexico. I have no clue as to what happened to Williams, but if the Circle K employee was correct and actually saw Williams leave the store alone, I don't see how Calkins could have been invovled in his disappearance.

EDIT: After reading some articles on the case, it appears that both men were allegedly dropped off at different Circle K stores. "Disappeared" hints that it was the same one. I think there may have been an "innocent" reason behind why Calkins was being deceptive on certain questions in his one polygraph. I believe it's possible that Williams may have bribed Calkins to not arrest him and simply give him a ride to his "job". That would explain why Calkins initially said he didn't remember pulling the car over, and why he lied to another dispatch when he called the car in to be towed.

Saw the episode on Terrance Williams and Felipe Santos and honestly have no idea what to make of it...
No disrespect, but we seem to have completely different takes on these cases. I just got done watching the episode and it's clear to me that Calkins is a lying sack of you-know-what and possibly a murderer. In fact, my blood was boiling by the end of the episode. The bottom line is that he lied and lied and lied again about his encounter with Williams and/or his Cadillac. You'd have to twist yourself into a pretty complicated pretzel to explain how Calkins could be telling the truth.

The internal investigation of Calkins did not exonerate him in the disappearance of Felipe Santos, they just determined that he did not violate police procedures based on his account. And why would Santos drive 30 miles to work every day to support his family, but would apparently not care enough about them to contact them when he ran to Mexico? It just doesn't add up.

Plus there's the fact that he was fired from the department over his behavior and lying after the fact about his encounter with Terrance Williams, and the detective made it very clear that he was still on their radar. I don't know what it takes to get enough probable cause to search this guys' house (did they search his police cruiser?).

A psychopath doesn't need motive to kill. All he needs is someone who is vulnerable. I know a lot of people in our society look at Williams and Santos as predators - run-ins with the law, no papers, no license or registration, barely able to support their families. But whether you think that or not, these characteristics also make them vulnerable - especially to someone in a powerful position like a police officer. Someone looking to harm someone else would look at them and say, "Hey, nobody's gonna miss these guys. They'll just figure they're running from the law." Perfect victims.

I'm just so sad and angry for their families. I don't have much hope that either of them is alive, but I hope at the very least that their bodies are found and that they can be laid to rest. While I'm not a fan, it looks like Tyler Perry has put up $100,000 for information in these cases and it trying to draw media attention. Good for him.

No disrespect, but we seem to have completely different takes on these cases. I just got done watching the episode and it's clear to me that Calkins is a lying sack of you-know-what and possibly a murderer. In fact, my blood was boiling by the end of the episode. The bottom line is that he lied and lied and lied again about his encounter with Williams and/or his Cadillac. You'd have to twist yourself into a pretty complicated pretzel to explain how Calkins could be telling the truth.

I'm just glad someone checked out the episode, because it's one of the most bizarre cases I've evern seen on there. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Calkins is a choir boy or anything, he definitely deserved to get fired for lying and hampering the investigation.

The internal investigation of Calkins did not exonerate him in the disappearance of Felipe Santos, they just determined that he did not violate police procedures based on his account. And why would Santos drive 30 miles to work every day to support his family, but would apparently not care enough about them to contact them when he ran to Mexico? It just doesn't add up.

I believe the "Disappeared" episode said Santos's wife/girlfriend and child lived in Mexico. He was working in America to support them back home. If I'm remembering this correctly, it would make perfect sense for him to flee back to Mexico.

Plus there's the fact that he was fired from the department over his behavior and lying after the fact about his encounter with Terrance Williams, and the detective made it very clear that he was still on their radar. I don't know what it takes to get enough probable cause to search this guys' house (did they search his police cruiser?).

Yes, they searched the cruiser and did not find any evidence of anything. I believe Terrance Williams's mother said something about how "spotless" the cruiser was. And Calkins did lie over and over again. But I thought of it differently than him lying to cover up a murder. I think it could have went down like this: Calkins pulls over Williams, who appeared to be having car trouble. Williams says he was just on his way to work, was being cooperative and admitted he didn't have a license, etc. so Calkins cuts him a break and gives him a ride to the Circle K (where Williams said he worked). Calkins drops him off, uses the restroom in the Circle K (an employee there said she saw both Calkins and Williams enter the store and Williams left before Calkins got out of the bathroom with a container of gasoline) and then leaves. Williams may have told Calkins that his registration and paperwork on the car was in the glove box, so Calkins went back to check it out. He finds no paperwork and calls the Circle K to speak to Williams. Circle K tells him they don't know Williams so this ticks of Calkins so he calls the car in to be towed. I do think at some point Calkins (presumeably going back to the area of the Circle K to find Williams for lying to him) runs into Williams again, confronts him with the lies he told him and Williams bribes Calkins to let him go. This would explain why Calkins failed the lie detector question of "Did you see Williams again after dropping him off at the Circle K?", and why he would lie about their encounter/s.

A psychopath doesn't need motive to kill. All he needs is someone who is vulnerable. I know a lot of people in our society look at Williams and Santos as predators - run-ins with the law, no papers, no license or registration, barely able to support their families. But whether you think that or not, these characteristics also make them vulnerable - especially to someone in a powerful position like a police officer. Someone looking to harm someone else would look at them and say, "Hey, nobody's gonna miss these guys. They'll just figure they're running from the law." Perfect victims.

But there was no evidence that Calkins was a psychopath. Scumbag, sure. But he also had a commendable service as a police officer for 17 years, IIRC. Makes no sense as to why he would all of a sudden out of the blue murder 2 men who were involved in traffic violations. Now had there been other missing persons, mysterious deaths, etc. that Calkins was involved in I would say there's a strong possibility that he was involved somehow, but to make the leap to murdering two guys within months of each other over an accident and driving without a license just doesn't make any sense to me.

I'm just so sad and angry for their families. I don't have much hope that either of them is alive, but I hope at the very least that their bodies are found and that they can be laid to rest. While I'm not a fan, it looks like Tyler Perry has put up $100,000 for information in these cases and it trying to draw media attention. Good for him.

I really do think it's possible that Santos is still alive, but as for Williams I think he's dead, unfortunately.

It sounded like Christopher Walker had a cold during this episode, thus making his lispy narration all the more painful to listen to. Well at least he's not Michael Cole...

And I'm sorry to get off topic, but I was just watching a wrestling dvd the other day that featured Andre the Giant vs. Big John Studd (the $15,000 slam match) from the first ever Wrestlemania. WWE thinks I wanted to listen to Michael Cole's commentary overdubbing that of Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura. THINK AGAIN VINCE!!!

And I'm sorry to get off topic, but I was just watching a wrestling dvd the other day that featured Andre the Giant vs. Big John Studd (the $15,000 slam match) from the first ever Wrestlemania. WWE thinks I wanted to listen to Michael Cole's commentary overdubbing that of Gorilla Monsoon and Jesse Ventura. THINK AGAIN VINCE!!!

They actually dubbed it with Cole? Stupid.

They actually dubbed it with Cole? Stupid.


yuck...I just threw up in my mouth a bit. these commentary dub-overs drive me nuts. Another pet peeve... watching old Wrestlemanias on the the Anthology and hearing dubbed-over theme music (Junkyard Dog coming out to Grab Them Cakes at the first Wrestlemania. He was still using Another One Bites The Dust then. Also, Hogan was still using Eye of the Tiger, but they dub over it with Real American. At WM3, Steamboat was using Sirius but they dub over with some WWE studio soundalike.) I understand the reasoning (paying royalties, etc) but it is irritating.

I don't want to turn this into a wrestling thread either (I do wish they had a wrestling forum on here). I don't watch anymore (I don't have cable or satellite and just a not interested in the current product as it is) but was/am a longtime fan. My favorite commentary crew was definitely Monsoon and Ventura. I loved Heenan too but always preferred him as a manager as opposed to doing commentary. I grew up primarily a WWF fan (lost much interest in wrestling from 1992 to 1996 then started to follow it more closely again (huge Hogan fan and preferred his NWO run). I would love to talk wrestling with you guys.

I don't want to turn this into a wrestling thread either (I do wish they had a wrestling forum on here). I don't watch anymore (I don't have cable or satellite and just a not interested in the current product as it is) but was/am a longtime fan. My favorite commentary crew was definitely Monsoon and Ventura. I loved Heenan too but always preferred him as a manager as opposed to doing commentary. I grew up primarily a WWF fan (lost much interest in wrestling from 1992 to 1996 then started to follow it more closely again (huge Hogan fan and preferred his NWO run). I would love to talk wrestling with you guys.

I guess the "Chit Chat - Sports" forum is the place to chat about wrestling. I loved Heenan. Greatest commentator of all time, IMO. And I hate when they overdub the entrance themes, they did that with the Big Boss Man on the Wrestlemania 7 DVD.

I know next to zilch about wrestling, but I always chuckle a little when you guys get on a wrestling kick. :p

I don't want to derail this into a wrestling thread either, but I just want to want to offer some clarification on the dubbing over of Jesse Ventura's commentary. He apparently had some sort of contract that requires WWE to pay him royalties any time they use his commentary on a DVD.

If the DVD is going to feature Ventura's commentary a lot, they just bite the bullet and pay up. If the DVD is going to only feature one or two matches with his commentary (like the aforementioned Andre the Giant match), they cheapen up by either editing him out or dubbing him over. Apparently, the recent Wargames DVD edits out Ventura's commentary on his matches :mad: .

Anyway, back to "Disappeared" talk...

Looks like Discovery channel is going to be airing re-runs as well.

I just saw the Morgan Harrington one. She was last seen at a Metallica concert and was later found murdered. I get the impression that she got got high on drugs and that's how she wandered outside and kept venturing further away from the building (they said she was refusing help that was offered to her, then later was trying to hitchhike). Witnesses said she was stumbling around. She told her friends she was going to the bathroom, so I think she went there to get high.

Bradyn Fuksa: Don't know what happened, but I wonder if they checked out Billings, MT since he was fascinated with the area and had told the guy replacing his tire he was heading there. He seems like a nice guy that made some mistakes. Another rare Wyoming disappearance, and since its one of the least populated states (if not, the least populated) that's probably why there weren't any sightings of him around his vehicle that he left behind (which was in fine running condition). I hope he's living the good life somewhere. And yes, what an incredibly handsome man with an unfortunate last name.

I wish they would show the McStays, that's one they haven't aired in a long time and it's one of the ones I need. Meaghan, who runs the Charley Project (and whom I recently sent a variety of shows on missing persons) thinks it will go down as the most baffling case of the century.

Bradyn Fuksa: Don't know what happened, but I wonder if they checked out Billings, MT since he was fascinated with the area and had told the guy replacing his tire he was heading there. He seems like a nice guy that made some mistakes. Another rare Wyoming disappearance, and since its one of the least populated states (if not, the least populated) that's probably why there weren't any sightings of him around his vehicle that he left behind (which was in fine running condition). I hope he's living the good life somewhere. And yes, what an incredibly handsome man with an unfortunate last name.

I don't know what to think about this one. I'm about 70% on him actively fleeing to avoid prosecution and 30% on some kind of stress-related break and/or panic attack.

I agree that there didn't seem to be a criminal streak--for lack of a better term--in him. I think he just made a really poor decision with the theft incident.

Some other random thoughts on cases:

Leah Peebles: I feel really, REALLY bad for her. She had been molested as a child, raped as a teenager and definitely had a hard knock life. She had turned to drugs, but it was clear she had done so to forget about all the horrible things that happened to her. Sadly, it caused her life to derail and led her into prostitution. I do admire the father for the enormous lengths he went to to find her. I hope she is found alive and can get her life back where it needs to be.

Toni Sharpless: I'm sorry, but this woman irritated the hell out of me. Staying up 36 hours and mixing a significant amount of alcohol with your prescribed meds and getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is DUMB, STUPID, DUMB!!! And destroying others property and abandoning your friend at the side of the road in the middle of the night when she tries to save your life is beyond reprehensible. She had mental issues and a criminal past and if she would have stayed at home with her young daughter instead of boozing it up around town , none of this would have happened. If she is ever found alive she needs serious, serious help.

Toni Sharpless: I'm sorry, but this woman irritated the hell out of me. Staying up 36 hours and mixing a significant amount of alcohol with your prescribed meds and getting behind the wheel of a vehicle is DUMB, STUPID, DUMB!!! And destroying others property and abandoning your friend at the side of the road in the middle of the night when she tries to save your life is beyond reprehensible. She had mental issues and a criminal past and if she would have stayed at home with her young daughter instead of boozing it up around town , none of this would have happened. If she is ever found alive she needs serious, serious help.

Don't know if you heard, but this past year, investigators received an anonymous letter from someone claiming they were paid $5,000 to dispose of Toni's car. They claim she was killed after a fight with a Camden police officer:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/anonymous-letter-offers-clue-case-missing-nurse-article-1.1238873

Personally, I find this lead pretty credible. Given her erratic behaviour that night, I find it believable that she could have encountered and gotten into a fatal fight with a police officer at some point. I believe someone inexplicably ran her car's licence plate number in Camden two weeks after Toni disappeared, so the pieces seem to fit together.

Don't know if you heard, but this past year, investigators received an anonymous letter from someone claiming they were paid $5,000 to dispose of Toni's car. They claim she was killed after a fight with a Camden police officer:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/anonymous-letter-offers-clue-case-missing-nurse-article-1.1238873

Personally, I find this lead pretty credible. Given her erratic behaviour that night, I find it believable that she could have encountered and gotten into a fatal fight with a police officer at some point. I believe someone inexplicably ran her car's licence plate number in Camden two weeks after Toni disappeared, so the pieces seem to fit together.

This actually makes the most sense, IMO. I haven't seen the episode in awhile, but wasn't there a theory that she was driven home by someone at the party who may have killed her?

This actually makes the most sense, IMO. I haven't seen the episode in awhile, but wasn't there a theory that she was driven home by someone at the party who may have killed her?

A visit to CP confirmed for me that this the woman that went to a party at some NBA player's house (or something like that). I remember this one now.

I vaguely remember something about her possibly being killed by someone who might have driven her home. After reading the article RobinW posted, I think it's extremely interesting that the letter writer was able to provide an accurate VIN for Toni's car.

How she managed to keep her nursing license with what seemed to be a pattern of binge drinking behavior is beyond me.

A visit to CP confirmed for me that this the woman that went to a party at some NBA player's house (or something like that). I remember this one now.

I vaguely remember something about her possibly being killed by someone who might have driven her home. After reading the article RobinW posted, I think it's extremely interesting that the letter writer was able to provide an accurate VIN for Toni's car.

How she managed to keep her nursing license with what seemed to be a pattern of binge drinking behavior is beyond me.

I think I'm mixing it up with another "Disappeared" case, because the Charley Project says she was driving her car with her friend and then got mad at her friend and made her get out while she drove away. If she didn't have a kid, I'd say this one was a case of a woman with mental problems (she had bipolar disorder) who had some sort of mental breakdown and wandered away (in the same vein as Kristi Krebs). But there have been no activity on her cards or bank account, and I don't see how she would willingly abandon her 12 year old daughter.

As to the letter itself, I don't know how credible it is. If an officer got into an altercation with Toni, wouldn't there be some sort of log or record of this? If they pulled over Toni, they would have called a dispatch with the license plate, driver's license, etc. to let them know the information they had, and the dispatch would have recorded this. If it happened, it seems like it would be fairly easy for this to solve.

As to the letter itself, I don't know how credible it is. If an officer got into an altercation with Toni, wouldn't there be some sort of log or record of this? If they pulled over Toni, they would have called a dispatch with the license plate, driver's license, etc. to let them know the information they had, and the dispatch would have recorded this. If it happened, it seems like it would be fairly easy for this to solve.

That's what I thought. I think the letter might be a half-truth sort of deal. I think someone DID dispose of that car and may have been paid to do it, but I don't think anyone on the Camden P.D. is responsible for Toni's disappearance.

Interesting. I hadn't heard of the tip about Toni's car being disposed of. I find missing persons cases where they disappear with the car to be fascinating. I don't know if I believe that someone drove her home though. The friend said Toni was driving and she was alone and there wasn't any disputes to that claim. Despite the fact the friend had been abandoned by Toni, she didn't seem to harbor any ill will towards her and was actively looking for her. I personally believe she drove her car in a body of water somewhere due to her state at the time (drunk, tired, etc.)

Regarding the fate of this series, I looked on an episode guide from episodeworld I had printed off in March, and it said the series was "On Hiatus". I visited the website again just now and it says "Fate To Be Determined". I still think it's entirely possible they could come out with no episodes and there has been no definitive proof the series has been officially cancelled. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

I guess the "Chit Chat - Sports" forum is the place to chat about wrestling. I loved Heenan. Greatest commentator of all time, IMO. And I hate when they overdub the entrance themes, they did that with the Big Boss Man on the Wrestlemania 7 DVD.


I can segue this into any crime show.... remember Boss Man's theme music... "If you ever take a trip down to Cobb County Georgia....serving hard time!" (just like many UM captures). lol

Did anyone see the Clinton Nelson one? It's about a young guy that disappeared shortly after heading to Louisiana to meet his birth father and his family. I think the people at the party probably robbed, beat and murdered him (he was carrying $600 on him at the time.) There were drugs at the party (it was in a trailer known for them) and they claimed he went outside to smoke a cigarette? Do they mean to tell me they allow meth and what not in the house, but force someone to go outside for a cigarette? Doesn't wash with me. I hope I'm wrong and that he is alive and can meet his son that was born a few months after he disappeared. I fear they may have fed Clint to the gators though. :eek:

The Tara Grinstead case is such a bizarre one, and I'm not even talking about just the "catchmekiller" schtick.

The part with the backwards-talking interview was just cringe-worthy. That somebody actually thought there were "clues" in an interview if you just played it backward was embarrassing and even worse that they apparently posted a site about it.

What a weird one. I hope they find her soon, the family sure deserves it after all this insanity.

I know it's been mentioned on here that Tim Carney was found alive and well, but apparently there's not much more info than that. This was the case of the young man who joined some crazy, wackadoo religious cult that, among other things, forced members to contribute a significant portion of their earnings to the church, and drove a wedge in between its members and their relatives.

It sounds like Carney, who was found in 2011, almost 7 years to the day after he disappeared, doesn't want any contact with his family, who had gone to great lengths to find him. I think this is rather shameful on his part. I also find him to be incredibly dense to not have wisened up about the cult and its intentions. At the very least, I think he owes it to his family to call them and give them an explanation. What a jagoff.

You guys are making me sad. I still can't believe they canceled this show.
It was the closest thing to UM since UM. I wish the producers would find a way to bring Disappeared back.

I have a feeling I'm going against the grain here on a few cases here, but.

-Patti Adkins. I'm not sold that the co-worker she was allegedly having an affair with did her in. For lots of reasons:
1) The $90,000 she allegedly gave him did not show up in his bank statements. If he acquired the money, then where is it? It was shown she did withdraw the money, but it would be a nice chunk of change if she wanted to start her life over somewhere.
2) Most people interviewed at the plant said the relationship was nothing more than the typical supervisor/subordinate relationship. I think it was only one, perhaps a few people that said it may have been more than that, but even those people said the relationship was not as serious as Patti was claiming it to be. (it was to the point where Patti claimed the man was going to leave his wife for her.)
3) Patti was acting very strangely the day of/before her disappearance (she vanished right around midnight) and not only that, but was behaving very secretly. Many people testified to this. This included not driving her own car to work, and being one of the first persons to leave (she was usually the last to leave). I think she probably called a cab in advance.
4) To the poster who was criticizing the coworker for the whole business of her hiding out in the cab of the truck under the tonneau cover, that was actually something she liked. She reportedly liked the secretive nature of it. But I don't believe it ever happened. I think she left on her own accord and wanted to cast suspicion on this coworker, for whatever reason.
5) if the coworker was guilty and the wife knew about it, why did they spent 45 minutes on the phone with Patti's sister? Guilty people are usually as vague as possible.

-Roxanne Paltauf. I agree that the boyfriend was a loser, but I don't think he's necessarily involved. This was a BAD section of Austin, and I think she could have met some random perp, or ran away voluntarily. I know the family painted her as the perfect daughter/sister and that, but she was getting into things she shouldn't have and seemed to be slipping into a different lifestyle. There was reportedly nothing in disarray in the motel room Roxanne and her boyfriend were sharing that would suggest a struggle, and also some huge doubts as to whether he would have had the time to pull it off.

With all that being said, while this is a great show, I'm often perplexed by the cases selected. Why are their no child abductions on this show? And it seems like most of the women profiled are either prostitutes or suspected of prostituting. I think a greater variety would (have?) served the show well.

Are we positive that Disappeared has been cancelled?

I searched online and the only references I could find were that people were confused because there was an episode called "Cancelled" or something similar that was shown on the tv screen (in the guide? during the epidsode? I dunno) and that led to a misconception that the show itself was cancelled.

With all that being said, while this is a great show, I'm often perplexed by the cases selected. Why are their no child abductions on this show? And it seems like most of the women profiled are either prostitutes or suspected of prostituting. I think a greater variety would (have?) served the show well.

I think it's done deliberately. Many of these cases wouldn't be ones that would get a lot of nationwide media coverage, as opposed to missing children and upscale suburban housewives. There doesn't seem to be an interest in focusing on missing adults who are prostitutes, or just men in general who have disappeared because there isn't the "soap opera" element that the media is looking for, even though the cases profiled have taken a lot of twists and turns. So it's nice that the show did select cases that probably would have gone under the radar.

I think it's done deliberately. Many of these cases wouldn't be ones that would get a lot of nationwide media coverage, as opposed to missing children and upscale suburban housewives. There doesn't seem to be an interest in focusing on missing adults who are prostitutes, or just men in general who have disappeared because there isn't the "soap opera" element that the media is looking for, even though the cases profiled have taken a lot of twists and turns. So it's nice that the show did select cases that probably would have gone under the radar.

Yeah I always liked how Disappeared would spotlight cases that probably wouldn't have gotten a lot of attention in the mainstream media. On the one hand, they'd cover more well-known cases like Maura Murray or Tara Grinstead. On the other hand, it was refreshing that they'd also cover cases like Patti Adkins and Roxanne Paltauf.

I REALLY hope this show comes back. There are so many good cases they could cover!

Tanya Rider - This was the case of the woman who crashed her car while driving home one morning after her overnight shift, and her husband was the only one looking for her as the 911 operator kept refusing to file a missing persons report. She was found a week later barely alive, and they figured she would have been dead in a few hours.

What I have to say about this case is that the manager at the store where she worked irritated the hell out of me. Phoning 911 and stating that her husband's "story just doesn't seem right to me." UM, EXCUSE ME?! He was the only one out looking for her. I didn't see her getting off her lazy buns and searching. And if you're going to call the police and report someone, you better have FACTS and not suspicions. Hated that woman.

And this happened in Bellevue, WA, which is perhaps best known as the headquarters for Expedia. Working in the hotel industry, I see that city pop up all the time.

Jeramy Burt - I'm sorry, but getting intimately involved with 2 women while you're still married to a 3rd is very risky, dumb and hurtful behavior. The episode pointed the finger of suspicion at the one girlfriend Jeannie, and while it was said he would be unlikely to leave his daughter behind, I wouldn't be surprised if he left the one ex-wife (the one he was apparently trying to hook up with again). He had left her once before and they seemed to have a love-hate relationship, so I don't think it's totally implausible that he would leave her again. I think if Jeannie was involved, she must have had an accomplice. I don't know what to think. She was involved in criminal behavior such as fraud, but nothing violent.

I don't think this has been reported, but Patricia Viola's remains were found a few years ago. Right after the episode aired, if I'm not mistaken.

Not really sure what to think on that one. She did sort of ask the best friend to take care of her children and you have to wonder if she voluntarily disappeared. The home alarm issue is a nagging one though. It went off, the police investigated, but didn't go inside. I have to wonder if somebody got inside and hid out until she returned, which would explain why her car was still there.

And as if that wasn't sad enough, a sad footnote: Her son was in a coma at the time her remains were found. They had to turn the t.v. off and stuff because they didn't want him to find out that way. What a horrible thing to wake up to.

By the way, what did everyone think about Jeremy Alex? Seems like a nice guy, but I don't think foul play was involved. Definitely seemed like he was abusing drugs hardcore, something his parents seemed rather oblivious to. I think he probably died of exposure.

I think Jeremy Alex probably died of exposure as well maybe brought on by drug use or mental illness.
The Patricia Viola case is interesting. There was a brief mention of criminal activity going on in a house across the street and that she may have seen something. I think her disappearance has something to do with that

I hope disappeared hasn't been cancelled. Looks like the last episodes were early 2013 with the season looking a little short. I haven't seen an official statement though so maybe its just a temp hiatus.

This is my favorite show on ID. I hope it's not cancelled.

There are some cases I definitely want to talk about.

Chioma Gray - It's pretty clear she voluntarily left with him. Not only that, but she has a Youtube channel now and it seems she is now married to Andrew because her Youtube name is Chioma Tafoya. I found her Facebook as well and it looks like she's getting along with her Mom again since she posted a picture with her and her sister. So it looks like her life is going fine so I'm happy about that.

John Spira - I think his business partner is responsible for this. I don't see any motive for his ex-wife to burn down his business, so it had to be his business partner.

Another I noticed that I think is a little bit odd is that in the last season of Disappeared, they profiled SIX cases of missing persons that happened in the 1990s, compared to only two in the first, third and fourth seasons and none in the second season.

It's as if the show ran out of people from the current decade or two to profile and decided to just go retro.

Both the Jamison and McStay family episodes re-aired this week and neither of them were updated. What a shame...

Both the Jamison and McStay family episodes re-aired this week and neither of them were updated. What a shame...

I don't know. I saw a very brief page of text at the tail-end of the McStay episode, so brief that I couldn't even read the first word. Wonder if it was a programming error. I might have recorded it because the next episode (Amy Wroe Bechtel) was one of the few ones I needed and I recorded that. Will see if I can figure it out.

The Niqui McCown episode aired again today. What I find interesting is that they don't mention the fact that Tommy had taken a polygraph exam and passed it. This was mentioned on her Charley Project page.

Niqui's Charley Project page also mentioned that her car's lock had been knocked in, the ignition had been tampered with and the battery and stereo were missing.

I wonder if she was carjacked that day and then abducted? If not by Tommy, then by some random perpetrator. I mean, Niqui was wearing some pretty revealing clothing and essentially made herself look pretty damn hot for that day so it's possible she could have been targeted because of how she looked. I'm not even straight, but it's pretty clear she looked pretty attractive for just going over to the Laundromat.

The Niqui McCown episode aired again today. What I find interesting is that they don't mention the fact that Tommy had taken a polygraph exam and passed it. This was mentioned on her Charley Project page.

Niqui's Charley Project page also mentioned that her car's lock had been knocked in, the ignition had been tampered with and the battery and stereo were missing.

I wonder if she was carjacked that day and then abducted? If not by Tommy, then by some random perpetrator. I mean, Niqui was wearing some pretty revealing clothing and essentially made herself look pretty damn hot for that day so it's possible she could have been targeted because of how she looked. I'm not even straight, but it's pretty clear she looked pretty attractive for just going over to the Laundromat.

it seems most people on this forum thought the boyfriend was involved, but I've never known what to think. There are too many suspects in this one. That was interesting about the state of the car, I'd also point out she was wearing diamond earrings and a gold bracelet, so she could have been targeted for her jewerly, seems like she had numerous expensive pieces on.

I also want to comment on some the other cases I caught up on. There were actually a ton of Disappeared episodes I hadn't seen.

Allison Jackson Foy
- What a horrifying end to her. To walk out of a bar on what was supposed to be a fun night and then meet a fate that resulted in being stabbed to death...oh my god...that's worse then strangulation in all honesty. I think she was the target of a serial killer because I don't think it's a coincidence that she was in the same vicinity as Angela Rothen.

Charlie Allen Jr
He's either dead or he's living under an assumed name. If it's been 7 years since his disappearance, and he was only wearing pants at the time of his disappearance, he might have succumbed to weather conditions at some point :( or worse met with foul play. Maybe he ran into a guy that wanted him to do sexual favors for all we know. The thing is, if he's not home after 7 years, he's either dead or living under an assumed name.

Satara Stratton
I live in the L.A. area so I'm surprised I didn't hear about this. But then again, I don't remember watching the news that much in 2011. I'm happy she was found alive and her mother didn't give up which is exactly how parents should be when finding their missing children.

I think there's a chance Charlie Allen is still alive, a pretty good chance too. I don't normally put much stock into eyewitness accounts, but the one on him after his disappearance was pretty credible. And he had recently changed his name and stuff. I hope he's still alive. He seemed like a good kid, just needed to get some mental help and take his meds.

The Niqui McCown episode aired again today. What I find interesting is that they don't mention the fact that Tommy had taken a polygraph exam and passed it. This was mentioned on her Charley Project page.

Niqui's Charley Project page also mentioned that her car's lock had been knocked in, the ignition had been tampered with and the battery and stereo were missing.

I wonder if she was carjacked that day and then abducted? If not by Tommy, then by some random perpetrator. I mean, Niqui was wearing some pretty revealing clothing and essentially made herself look pretty damn hot for that day so it's possible she could have been targeted because of how she looked. I'm not even straight, but it's pretty clear she looked pretty attractive for just going over to the Laundromat.

I think you meant Bobby, who was her boyfriend. Tommy Swint was the other suspect featured (ignored on UM) on Disappeared. He's almost certainly the one responsible for Niqui's disappearance.

I think there's a chance Charlie Allen is still alive, a pretty good chance too. I don't normally put much stock into eyewitness accounts, but the one on him after his disappearance was pretty credible. And he had recently changed his name and stuff. I hope he's still alive. He seemed like a good kid, just needed to get some mental help and take his meds.

I was pretty disappointed with how dismissive his sister was towards the mental breakdown theory despite the fact, Charlie had been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and that his behavior was pretty much textbook breakdown behavior.

I was pretty disappointed with how dismissive his sister was towards the mental breakdown theory despite the fact, Charlie had been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder and that his behavior was pretty much textbook breakdown behavior.

agreed. One thing I thought was weird was how they never mentioned Charlie's brother, even going as far as to make sure his face wasn't shown in the family photo's. Wonder what the reasoning was for that.

Did anyone see the Joey Lynn Offutt one? That one was BIZARRE. Here is the CP link, but it doesn't tell the whole story, so I'll fill in the gaps.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/offutt_joey.html

Joey had a fiancee and two children with him, including a newborn, and they each had a child from different relationships. Joey was 33 years old and was described as behaving like a 14 year old and possibly had other mental issues. Her mother stated that whenever she had a disagreement with Joey that she didn't react well at all and would "shut down". The mother had warned the fiancee about this. On July 3, 2007, Joey and her fiancee had a disagreement as he didn't approve of her bathing the child in the dirty kitchen sink. Joey apparently stormed out of the house with the baby (her other child with her fiancee was staying with relatives) and went back to her own house.

Now this is where it gets strange. Starting on July 4, her fiancee attempts to contact her through various means: cell phone and visits to her house, but Joey doesn't respond to any of them. He continues this for the next week or so and figures that Joey is avoiding him, which seems logical. But another person, I believe it was a home health care worker or something like that, also pays numerous visits to Joey's house and she is also unable to get Joey to answer. Handwritten messages are left and still she does not respond.

On July 4, when her fiancee visited her house, he noticed her red Saturn was parked at the house. During subsequent visits, the car disappeared, reappeared, then disappeared again. There was one eyewitness sighting of Joey around this time, from a neighbor who said that he saw Joey pushing the stroller, but isn't sure the baby was in it at the time. He also stated Joey did not address him, which was not her usual custom.

Joey's house had an explosion at 4 a.m. on July 12, 8 days after her husband last saw her. The house then burned to the ground. It was determined to be arson, set in 2 different places (the basement and the bathroom, which I believe was upstairs) and an unspecified accelerant was used. Sadly, the baby was found dead in the rubble, but it was determined the baby had died before the fire.

Joey's red Saturn reappeared again on July 15, but this time it was 2 hours away in an apartment complex she used to live at. A witness said the car had been there as early as July 13 and possibly the day before that, which would be the same day as the fire/explosion. Over 6 years later, Joey Lynn still has not been found. It has been stated she was overly trusting, naive and enjoyed meeting people on the internet, one of which wanted her to star in a pornography movie.

I have no idea what to think here. Was she responsible for her baby's death, either directly or perhaps negligible homicide? Was she really at her home during the 8 days practically nobody saw her, or did she disappear before that? What was with the car and it's constant appearances and disappearances? Did she and her baby meet with foul play?

I think this case went down to the bizarre bazaar.

I think Alexis had something to do with it. Didn't he fail a lie detector test?

Brianna Maitland's episode is airing today on ID. I think it's nice that they are airing it on the 10th anniversary of her disappearance. I actually haven't seen this episode so this will be nice for me as well.

Looks like Disappeared is returning to ID in May 2014. But with a new feel
http://www.peacockproductions.tv/series/disappeared/

Looks like Disappeared is returning to ID in May 2014. But with a new feel
http://www.peacockproductions.tv/series/disappeared/

wow, thanks for posting that. Various sources were reporting the show was definitively cancelled, but this seems to debunk that.

Not sure if I like the sound of the new format though. I know if I had a loved one go missing, the last thing I'd want in my house is a bunch of cameramen and such in my way. It would be good, exposure-wise, but I value my privacy and would especially in that instance.

wow, thanks for posting that. Various sources were reporting the show was definitively cancelled, but this seems to debunk that.

Not sure if I like the sound of the new format though. I know if I had a loved one go missing, the last thing I'd want in my house is a bunch of cameramen and such in my way. It would be good, exposure-wise, but I value my privacy and would especially in that instance.

Your welcome. I came across a discussion whether Disappeared was cancelled or not on Websleuths and someone came across this on the Peacock website.

This could explain why there was a hiatus for a year in terms of episodes. And I actually can't blame them since 2013 was pretty lacking in disappearing cases from what I've noticed on The Charley Project. But still, there should of been enough 2011 and 2012 cases and below to at least help make for a new season last year. But maybe these 2014 cases will be interesting.

This could explain why there was a hiatus for a year in terms of episodes. And I actually can't blame them since 2013 was pretty lacking in disappearing cases from what I've noticed on The Charley Project. But still, there should of been enough 2011 and 2012 cases and below to at least help make for a new season last year. But maybe these 2014 cases will be interesting.

I don't know, it seemed like most of the last season were older cases, even going back to the 90's. Bible/Freeman, Moses Lall and company, and Bob Wykell were all from the 90s.

I don't know, it seemed like most of the last season were older cases, even going back to the 90's. Bible/Freeman, Moses Lall and company, and Bob Wykell were all from the 90s.

6 out of 15 episodes were 1990s cases. That's only 40% - though for any Disappeared season that's pretty high.

Plus the season was from 2012 - 2013, when many 2011 and 2012 cases were still developing like Sierra LaMar, Lauren Spierer and Holly Bobo

Our production team will be embedded with families just weeks after their loved one has gone missing and will document the raw emotion that unfolds as friends and relatives desperately try to make sense of the deeply troubling set of circumstances they suddenly face.I don't really like the sound of that. It's like they're trying to make it more about their grief than finding the missing person.

I could be wrong, but it sounds more in line with current ID programming in being more about shock value than actual crime solving.

I don't really like the sound of that. It's like they're trying to make it more about their grief than finding the missing person.

I could be wrong, but it sounds more in line with current ID programming in being more about shock value than actual crime solving.
It also sounds way too much like a reality show as opposed to a investigation show.

So, this new format sounds a lot like The First 48: Missing persons. Honestly, I loved Disappeared how it was originally. ID has changed so much in the last year. It has all these stupid shows that retell the same damn story but for 5 different shows of theirs. I know their viewers are mostly women so they gear the programming toward these type of shows but its losing its credibility to me. Just like CourtTV use to show actual courtroom cases and now its called TruTV which just shows high speed car chases and admitted faked "reality shows" like South Beach Tow. I understand Disappeared is trying to bring a fresh more high drama angle to the show but it doesn't need that.

So, this new format sounds a lot like The First 48: Missing persons. Honestly, I loved Disappeared how it was originally. ID has changed so much in the last year. It has all these stupid shows that retell the same damn story but for 5 different shows of theirs. I know their viewers are mostly women so they gear the programming toward these type of shows but its losing its credibility to me. Just like CourtTV use to show actual courtroom cases and now its called TruTV which just shows high speed car chases and admitted faked "reality shows" like South Beach Tow. I understand Disappeared is trying to bring a fresh more high drama angle to the show but it doesn't need that.

Exactly.

Aside from Disappeared, the only shows I find it worth to watch on ID are House of Horrors and Stalked.

Hopefully Disappeared isn't bad this season. But another thing I don't like is the inclusion of a "main character" with that private detective dude.

Anyways, it does seem like they are getting ready for Disappeared to start airing new episodes again.

They're only airing one episode a day now instead of two. I remember during Season 4 that Dateline was usually what aired in that timeslot.

Are they still going to air it under the Disappeared title? The reason I ask is there's another show called Last Seen Alive premiering on 6/1 which seems very similar except for the private investigator angle.

I want to make a comment on Mike William's case.

First off, I wonder if the wife and friend planned for that specific day for Mike to disappear. December 16th of that year was the same day that a deadly tornado outbreak occurred in Alabama. Since they live in the Florida panhandle, I'm assuming that the bad weather that night came from the same storm system. Is it possible Denise and that friend made plans to kill Mike that day because they knew the weather would cause delays in the investigation? We've seen weather overshadow missing persons cases before like when the Greensburg tornado occurred the same day as Kara Kopetsky vanishing.

Secondly, I think the granddaughter might be the key to breaking this case open. I think she would be an adult now or at least a teenager close to turning 18 so she might have more leverage to get away from her Mom and stepdad (if they are still together) and talk to police. I highly doubt Denise and that friend would have kept their mouth's shut about Mike behind closed doors. The daughter could have overheard anything that would make them look guilty over the years.

I am seriously disappointed in this whole reformatting Disappeared is doing. Its like when they destroyed my all time favorite show Unsolved Mysteries in 2008 by replacing the music, Robert Stack (I know he died but still), and re-edited the segments terribly, and lately they tried to pretend the episodes happened "recently" even though some were clearly filmed in the late 80's. Whoever came up with that idea is a moron. Unsolved Mysteries was the first of its kind and is known for its music and host. Disappeared is headed in that direction. It's going to take a high drama angle and it seriously doesn't need that. Its basically becoming First 48:Missing Persons with an added private detective. Most people who are first reported missing are found within a few days safe (thankfully) if you watch the first 48. Anyways, I think some of those older cases need to profiled to stir up publicity again for the case.

I am seriously disappointed in this whole reformatting Disappeared is doing. Its like when they destroyed my all time favorite show Unsolved Mysteries in 2008 by replacing the music, Robert Stack (I know he died but still), and re-edited the segments terribly, and lately they tried to pretend the episodes happened "recently" even though some were clearly filmed in the late 80's. Whoever came up with that idea is a moron. Unsolved Mysteries was the first of its kind and is known for its music and host. Disappeared is headed in that direction. It's going to take a high drama angle and it seriously doesn't need that. Its basically becoming First 48:Missing Persons with an added private detective. Most people who are first reported missing are found within a few days safe (thankfully) if you watch the first 48. Anyways, I think some of those older cases need to profiled to stir up publicity again for the case.It also implies that they'll only be doing newer cases. So much for some of the older mysteries (Patricia Meehan or Dale Kerstetter) getting more exposure.

I'm not looking forward to this new approach.

So they officially posted on the Disappeared home page that the one hour season premiere is on May 26th, which makes it official.

And if you look at the schedule for May 26th, the only episode of Disappeared is scheduled for 6 AM, which means they are ready for the season to begin because they usually don't air reruns of shows currently airing a new season.

They officially have the description of the first episode for Season 6 post on the Disappeared TV schedule.

On Feb 9, Charli Scott, a 27 y/o pregnant woman vanishes in Maui. Her stunned family and community ban together to look for her. Last seen on a treacherous road, they fear there’s been an accident. But as pieces of evidence surface, the mystery heightens.
http://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/disappeared/tv-schedule.htm

This will be the first Disappeared episode to profile a Hawaiian case.

And as for that other missing persons show, Last Seen Alive, I think that might be a different approach tbh.

Oh, they're calling it a "Special" on the Facebook page. Now I'm not so sure we are getting a new season

Oh, they're calling it a "Special" on the Facebook page. Now I'm not so sure we are getting a new season

That would actually make sense if the show really was cancelled. There have been numerous programs that have had "After-series specials" in other words, specials that aired after the program stopped making new regular episodes. Such shows include Murder, She Wrote, Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman, That's Incredible! and MacGyver, to name a few.

From what I can tell, it seems to me this special sounds more like a Backdoor Pilot to Last Seen Alive. Same narrator I think.

Same narrator I think.

that sucks. :lol:

okay, found a little more info and here's a link to some upcoming episodes, at least 6 are scheduled to air

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/05/13/last-seen-alive-to-premiere-sunday-june-1-on-investigation-discovery/264036/

Ah, they're doing an episode on Robin Putnam, which I mentioned was an interesting one on the Charley Project thread. Good deal, hope we can find him now. Interestingly, his parents think he's in Manhattan now!
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/putnam_robin.html

Alexandira Lowitzer
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lowitzer_alexandria.html

this one sounds interesting, I remember reading about it
Cameron Remmer
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/remmer_cameron.html

So what do you think of the Jarrod Johnstone case? Me, I find the Moulder investigator awfully cold and dismissive of the family's concerns. Yes, I agree that there's not much of a trail to follow but still show a little sympathy towards the family.

Also, that thing with Amy Hite kind of bothered me. What do you do when you see someone passed out on the side of the road? You take him to a hospital. Don't bring him home and nurse him back to health. I know you want to be a good Samaritan but someone might be looking for him and a hospital's probably a better place for him to be than your home.

So what do you think of the Jarrod Johnstone case? Me, I find the Moulder investigator awfully cold and dismissive of the family's concerns. Yes, I agree that there's not much of a trail to follow but still show a little sympathy towards the family.

Also, that thing with Amy Hite kind of bothered me. What do you do when you see someone passed out on the side of the road? You take him to a hospital. Don't bring him home and nurse him back to health. I know you want to be a good Samaritan but someone might be looking for him and a hospital's probably a better place for him to be than your home.

been awhile since I've seen that one. Strangely, this case is not on Charley Project. I even sent the owner a copy of Jarrod's episode. Nothing. Weird.

I find Amy Hite's account a little far-fetched. In addition to what you said, the guy wasn't even Jarrod. I think she's probably a little messed up in the head.

The Jamison familie's remains were officially identified this month.
http://newsok.com/medical-examiner-positively-identifies-remains-of-missing-oklahoma-family/article/4985161

At least the family finally can have official closure.

There's another special this Sunday called "Lauryn is Lost":

After calling her father for a ride home, 23-year-old Lauryn Garrett from Washington disappears without a trace, leading her family on a quest to find her whereabouts as they search for clues that may help them solve the mystery.

There's another special this Sunday called "Lauryn is Lost":

After calling her father for a ride home, 23-year-old Lauryn Garrett from Washington disappears without a trace, leading her family on a quest to find her whereabouts as they search for clues that may help them solve the mystery.

Weird: Apparently she was found nearly 3 months ago and police no longer consider her a missing person. She hasn't contacted her father again though. Lauryn was using someone's stolen ID. Just prior to her disappearance, she was in a rehabilition center. She intentionally left 2 duffel bags behind at a "park and ride" and her mother found one of the bags at a trail! I have to commend the mother's efforts to track her down: handing out hundreds of bagged lunches to the homeless with a picture of Lauren attached to the bags.

http://www.peninsuladailynews.com/article/20140605/NEWS/306059982/update-8212-missing-sequim-woman-seen-in-shoreline

http://www.ptleader.com/news/pt-police-lauryn-garrett-spotted-safe-at-shoreline-fred-meyer/article_5ef28208-ed15-11e3-aa0a-001a4bcf6878.html

Double weird: I guess Disappeared, despite being cancelled, is doing occasional specials now?

There was this article on the Bethany Decker case for the three year anniversary.

The fact that I found most interesting is that Bethany's is now saying she never heard of Roldan (Ronald) or seen him even though she said she knew back when the episode aired in 2012.

She also wants Bethany's husband to take a polygraph
http://www.wtop.com/41/3551016/Mother-of-missing-Bethany-Decker-to-boyfriend-Take-the-polygraph-test

There was this article on the Bethany Decker case for the three year anniversary.

The fact that I found most interesting is that Bethany's is now saying she never heard of Roldan (Ronald) or seen him even though she said she knew back when the episode aired in 2012.

She also wants Bethany's husband to take a polygraph
http://www.wtop.com/41/3551016/Mother-of-missing-Bethany-Decker-to-boyfriend-Take-the-polygraph-test

not quite. She said she never heard FROM or met the boyfriend, not that she hadn't heard of him. She wanted him (not the husband) to take the polygraph, so she's definitely heard of him.

Double weird: I guess Disappeared, despite being cancelled, is doing occasional specials now?

Are they any good? ID in Canada no longer runs Disappeared and that makes me cranky. We haven't even seen the most recent season here.

So, this new format sounds a lot like The First 48: Missing persons. Honestly, I loved Disappeared how it was originally. ID has changed so much in the last year. It has all these stupid shows that retell the same damn story but for 5 different shows of theirs. I know their viewers are mostly women so they gear the programming toward these type of shows but its losing its credibility to me. Just like CourtTV use to show actual courtroom cases and now its called TruTV which just shows high speed car chases and admitted faked "reality shows" like South Beach Tow. I understand Disappeared is trying to bring a fresh more high drama angle to the show but it doesn't need that.

Agreed! I miss the old shows. I stopped watching ID regularly. :(

saw the "Lauryn is Lost" special and didn't like it. Lauryn was not lost, she was voluntarily hiding. She has a history of drug addiction and homelessness and clearly didn't want to be found. She is living a different lifestyle now. Kind of reminded me of Last Seen Alive and how they always air cases about a young female who voluntarily runs away to live a life of crime. I wish they would choose different cases.

I'm hearing there is a possible suspect in the McStay family murder.

I'm hearing there is a possible suspect in the McStay family murder.

Yes, authorities held a press conference today that they arrested one of Joey's business associates, Charles 'Chase' Merritt, on Wednesday:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/07/justice/mcstay-case/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I hope justice for the McStays is coming! :clap:

Wow, this month really has been crazy with updates. There's now an arrest in Paige Birgfeld's case
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/arrest-in-2007-killing-of-mom-who-led-double-life/ar-BBf4KIM

Re: Paige Birgfeld:

I was shocked. I totally thought that her ex might have had a role in her death.

Noah Pippen's body was found in the Bob Marshall wilderness of Montana. It is believed he killed himself.

Noah Pippen's body was found in the Bob Marshall wilderness of Montana. It is believed he killed himself.

Where did you hear Noah Pippin killed himself? I assumed his death was due to exposure since he disappeared during a blizzard.

Where did you hear Noah Pippin killed himself? I assumed his death was due to exposure since he disappeared during a blizzard.


Heard it here: http://helenair.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/new-evidence-found-in-marine-s-wilderness-death/article_2920d290-0eb0-11e3-818a-0019bb2963f4.html

If you're familiar with this area, foul play is very unlikely, as suggested by the article. Noah was found in an area that takes several days to backpack to, in pretty rugged terrain that's also really secluded.

Here's a quick and handy reference guide that gives the statuses to each case, in alphabetical order by missing person's name. Credit to whoever did this.

You may want to avoid the comments section though. TROLL CITY.

Oh, and as most of us know, the Jamisons were found deceased, and Chase Merritt was arrested for the murder of the McStays.

http://disappeared-epilogue.blogspot.com/p/quick-info-status-of-each-person.html

Attention: There will be a Disappeared special on tonight called "Lone Star Mystery" profiling the disappearance of Christina Moore. It reruns Thursday and Saturday.

Attention: There will be a Disappeared special on tonight called "Lone Star Mystery" profiling the disappearance of Christina Moore. It reruns Thursday and Saturday.

Thanks for posting this - I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.

It still had the newer format but the case was more like the older episodes.

It was a good episode but utterly depressing (like Disappeared always is).

Are all/most cases profiled on Disappeared unsolved? (not counting the updates)

I don't enjoy the show because all of the episodes that I've watched have no resolution, and that's just too depressing for me.

Yeah I think the idea is similar to UM in that it's intended to bring attention to unsolved cases to try to drum up new information.

They found John Glasgow's remains
http://thecabin.net/news/local/2015-03-12/john-glasgows-family-suspects-foul-play-petit-jean-death

As sad as it is, I'm happy another Disappeared case finally has an answer.

Wow. Breaking news in the Zebb Quinn case. One of the main suspects, Robert Owens, was just arrested for the presumed murders of a Food Network employee and her husband, a Hollywood studio worker. They owned a residence in North Carolina and worked in California. Owens apparently burglarized their house and stole several things, and that may have been his motive for killing him. Owens had quite a few run-ins with the law after Zebb's disappearance on January, 2, 2000. He was the last person to see Zebb alive and has definitely shot up to the top of the suspect list now, if he wasn't there already. All 3 are still missing though.

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2015/03/17/leicester-man-charged-two-counts-murder/24888031/

Wow. Breaking news in the Zebb Quinn case. One of the main suspects, Robert Owens, was just arrested for the presumed murders of a Food Network employee and her husband, a Hollywood studio worker. They owned a residence in North Carolina and worked in California. Owens apparently burglarized their house and stole several things, and that may have been his motive for killing him. Owens had quite a few run-ins with the law after Zebb's disappearance on January, 2, 2000. He was the last person to see Zebb alive and has definitely shot up to the top of the suspect list now, if he wasn't there already. All 3 are still missing though.

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2015/03/17/leicester-man-charged-two-counts-murder/24888031/

Crazy.

I had read about the murder of the Food Network chef yesterday, but did not put the two together. Good catch!

...and yes, you need to view the cases separately, but it doesn't look good....

Amazon keeps recommending an Investigation Discovery show called "Last Seen Alive." Anyone know if it's worth spending money on? So far I've just seen the free sample.

It's kinda similar to Disapeared. I've seen it a few times and like it.

Amazon keeps recommending an Investigation Discovery show called "Last Seen Alive." Anyone know if it's worth spending money on? So far I've just seen the free sample.
I think there's only been a few episodes of it but I liked it.

Apparently the last person to see Bethany Decker alive has now been charged with attempting to kill another woman. http://wtop.com/news/2014/11/last-person-to-see-bethany-decker-charged-with-trying-to-kill-another-woman/

I think there's a special on tomorrow night.

They found John Glasgow's remains
http://thecabin.net/news/local/2015-03-12/john-glasgows-family-suspects-foul-play-petit-jean-death

As sad as it is, I'm happy another Disappeared case finally has an answer.

Thanks for the info. I hadn't heard his remains were found. I really think he committed suicide or died of exposure. He was despondent over all the trouble at work and damage to his reputation.

I agree as well. I beleive he killed himself.

As far as Chris McCandless goes, he did ingest a type of fungus growing on berries which Krakauer believed killed him. The autopsy I believe was inconclusive because they could not tell if he starved to death or died from poisoning of that fungus.

Chris McCandless died of starvation. He weighed a mere 67 pounds at the time of his death.

Bradyn Fuksa's remains were found this week. This article doesn't go into much detail other than foul play wasn't suspected.

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/olathe/remains-of-missing-olathe-resident-bradyn-fuksa-found-in-wyoming

Bradyn Fuksa's remains were found this week. This article doesn't go into much detail other than foul play wasn't suspected.

http://www.kshb.com/news/region-kansas/olathe/remains-of-missing-olathe-resident-bradyn-fuksa-found-in-wyoming

NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I was so hoping and thinking he would still be alive somewhere.

Okay, what?! This article says Fuksa died of a self-inflicted gunshot, but no gun was recovered at the scene? They also don't know what he was doing in the area (by a creek, mountain).

http://k2radio.com/skeletal-remains-identified/

Here's another article where the coroner says she wants further examination
http://www.kcwy13.com/home/headlines/Human-Remains-Identified-as-Michael-Bradyn-Fuska-303114051.html

I was hoping he was out there too, starting a new life of some kind. They might have updated the story, but it does say a weapon was recovered at the scene. It doesn't specifically say a gun [edit: one article says it was a Beretta], but even still, I'd like to know how they came to the conclusion the gunshot was self-inflicted. Maybe they matched the bullets?

It's an hour and a half between Casper and Wheatland; how he ended up behind that Wal-Mart is a mystery. I wonder if he hitched a ride to that Wal-Mart to get a new tire or something, and when he got there, he just had enough of everything and decided to commit suicide. I'm going to have to watch that particular episode again, because I seem to recall there were a few people he supposedly talked to in Wyoming. I hope they investigate this further.

Holy...The Bradyn Fuksa case had always been one I watched over and over again. Lot of the cases on Disappeared, you call them "half-solved" in that you have a fairly good idea the person is dead and that so-and-so might have done them in (like in the Mike Williams case), but the Fuksa case was so fascinating in that there was so few clues you could have made a case for any outcome: murder, suicide, or running away.

Oh course, now we know. :( In all honesty, I had suspected that suicide was a possibility. Again, he was so freaked out about the arrest charge that in his despair, going on the run seemed like a reasonable idea. Maybe the adrenaline rush of being on the run was able to keep him going for awhile, but eventually the adrenaline gave out and the despair returned. :( My theory, looking at some of the footage in that episode, is that he could have walked deep into the tall grass (the area he was in looked like mostly prairie), laid down, and shot himself. I imagine give the remoteness of that area, it would be very difficult for anyone to come across him afterwards.

Again, as someone who has struggled off and on with mental illness and did stuff when I was young and stupid, I always felt for Bradyn. Especially when you take into account that if he had just stayed in town and faced the music, it wouldn't have been as bad as he thought. I know some have wondered if Bradyn was involved in some criminal activity beyond robbing the till at work, but I always thought that if he was, the cops would have uncovered it by now, and I just didn't get that impression from him. I really believe he was just young, stupid, and freaked out, which is why he went on the run.

I'll say a prayer for his parents. :(

Holy...The Bradyn Fuksa case had always been one I watched over and over again. Lot of the cases on Disappeared, you call them "half-solved" in that you have a fairly good idea the person is dead and that so-and-so might have done them in (like in the Mike Williams case), but the Fuksa case was so fascinating in that there was so few clues you could have made a case for any outcome: murder, suicide, or running away.

Oh course, now we know. :( In all honesty, I had suspected that suicide was a possibility. Again, he was so freaked out about the arrest charge that in his despair, going on the run seemed like a reasonable idea. Maybe the adrenaline rush of being on the run was able to keep him going for awhile, but eventually the adrenaline gave out and the despair returned. :( My theory, looking at some of the footage in that episode, is that he could have walked deep into the tall grass (the area he was in looked like mostly prairie), laid down, and shot himself. I imagine give the remoteness of that area, it would be very difficult for anyone to come across him afterwards.

Again, as someone who has struggled off and on with mental illness and did stuff when I was young and stupid, I always felt for Bradyn. Especially when you take into account that if he had just stayed in town and faced the music, it wouldn't have been as bad as he thought. I know some have wondered if Bradyn was involved in some criminal activity beyond robbing the till at work, but I always thought that if he was, the cops would have uncovered it by now, and I just didn't get that impression from him. I really believe he was just young, stupid, and freaked out, which is why he went on the run.

I'll say a prayer for his parents. :(

I'd have to rewatch the episode, but I seem to recall that he was having some financial difficulties and trouble finding a job, so those may have been factors as well. I don't think it was necessarily the legal problems in and of themselves, but probably everything combined.

I'm not sure if its been mentioned or not, but Leah Peebles father, John Peebles, died in a motorcycle accident recently. Very, very sad. He was one of the most sympathetic figures I've ever seen on a television program.

Okay, what?! This article says Fuksa died of a self-inflicted gunshot, but no gun was recovered at the scene? They also don't know what he was doing in the area (by a creek, mountain).

http://k2radio.com/skeletal-remains-identified/

Here's another article where the coroner says she wants further examination
http://www.kcwy13.com/home/headlines/Human-Remains-Identified-as-Michael-Bradyn-Fuska-303114051.html

They must have updated the story. They mention that a handgun was found, in addition to prescription drugs with unreadable labels.

So sad. I was hoping that Bradyn was going to be found safe. I thought his episode of Disappeared was very haunting. So many unanswered questions...

It seems so senseless. He was 22 years old. Honestly, even his crime in the grand scheme of life at 22 year old would have been long forgotten by now. I'm the exact same age as he was and he would have just turned 28. He still had a whole life ahead of him and he would have long been off probation and easily could have led a productive life. Most 22 years old who don't have trust funds or aren't living off their college loan money still are always financially strapped. I had to ask my parents for help quite a few times after college in my early 20s with all my loans due, credit card bills, rent, car payments ect. To me that's a very common issue among young adults and from the episode his parents were always more than willing to help him out.

The prescription pills found might be a factor. I know it never said it in the episode but did he recreationally start taking pills or abusing them? That can drastically change a persons outlook on life and desperation. Just a thought

Also, I think Bradyn planned to kill himself at some point because he took his parents gun with him. Why else would he? Either he was complemating it if life on the run became too much or he planned to kill himself from the get go. Maybe he didnt want his loved ones to have to find his body. Who knows but I always had the feeling he killed himself because he took his parents gun.


I suspect the same fate is Lee Cutlers. He was suicidal. Plus, the woods can hide a body for years or even forever. Look at how the searchers insisted Glasgow was not on the mountain because they had searched it so thoroughly. The same thing with the George Owens case. However, both were there.

Same with Maura Murray. I dont think shes alive and never have. I also think the odds of a twisted murderer picking her up after she fled the accident scene is extremely unlikely. However, if a good Samaritan gave her a ride they would have come forward. That case had so much national and local attention surely the driver would have come forward. I also doubt they would forget a girl running alone on a rural road that night. I personally dont think she made it outside of the wooded area she disappeared in that night. I understand the dogs lost her scent but so did the dogs in the george owens case.

Same with Maura Murray. I dont think shes alive and never have. I also think the odds of a twisted murderer picking her up after she fled the accident scene is extremely unlikely. However, if a good Samaritan gave her a ride they would have come forward. That case had so much national and local attention surely the driver would have come forward. I also doubt they would forget a girl running alone on a rural road that night. I personally dont think she made it outside of the wooded area she disappeared in that night. I understand the dogs lost her scent but so did the dogs in the george owens case.Out of curiousity, what do you think of the theory that she's still out there (http://mauramurray.blogspot.ca/)? Of all the Disappeared cases still unsolved, she seems to be the most likely to me of still being alive.

The top five facts uncovered were quite interesting to say the least:

5. Maura Murray committed identity theft and credit fraud shortly before she disappeared.

4. Fred Murray did not speak to detectives for years and when he did, he brought 2 lawyers with him.

3. Someone called Maura Murray from southern New Hampshire shortly before her accident.

2. Maura Murray stole from Fort Knox while enrolled at West Point.

1. Maura had an affair with a UMass track coach and discussed running away.

I'm not sure if its been mentioned or not, but Leah Peebles father, John Peebles, died in a motorcycle accident recently. Very, very sad. He was one of the most sympathetic figures I've ever seen on a television program.

That is very sad. He was very dedicated to his daughter and had made about a dozen trips to a bad part of town looking for her. The whole situation with the Peebles is very sad.

I suspect the same fate is Lee Cutlers. He was suicidal. Plus, the woods can hide a body for years or even forever. Look at how the searchers insisted Glasgow was not on the mountain because they had searched it so thoroughly. The same thing with the George Owens case. However, both were there.

?? George Owens has never been found.

?? George Owens has never been found.


Oops, I meant Joe Owens.

I just saw the Zebb Quinn one. I remember reading the charley project profile some time back and thinking this case was really bizarre, and watching the episode, it seems even more bizarre. This case went down to the bizarre buffet, took a big helping, then came back for seconds.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/q/quinn_zebb.html

Now if that wasn't enough for you, here's the additional info from the episode. Jason Owens claimed that he got into a SECOND automobile accident, but investigators couldn't find any paperwork or anything from it. Owens was later arrested for fleeing and shooting at a police officer. He's a good suspect. But, he's not the only one, in fact there's a whole group of them.

The woman talked about in the cp link is named Misty. Zebb had a crush on her, but she had a boyfriend and a baby by him, and apparently wasn't interested in Zebb that way. Misty's alibi was that she was at her home with her boyfriend, baby, her parents and Zebb's own aunt. The last page that Zebb ever got on his pager -- the one he left Jason Owens for to go answer, was from Zebb's aunt's house. The aunt was confronted with this info, but denied having made the page. A witness later came forward to state that she witnessed someone other than Zebb driving his car after the time he disappeared. A sketch artist drew a composite based on the witnesses description and it closely matched Misty.

No idea what to think here. They speculated on Disappeared that somebody parked Zebb's car and left the puppy, huge lips and exclamation points to draw attention to it so that it would be found. That's as good as guess as I have.

I apologize for bumping this two year old quote, but, I re-watched this episode earlier. There is a "smoking gun" for both Jason Owens and for Misty Taylor.

On one hand, you have Owens calling Walmart pretending to be Zebb, calling in sick. There's clearly a reason he did that and I don't buy his excuse of "Zebb asked me to do it."

On the other hand, you have either Misty Taylor or her boyfriend, Wesley, page Zebb from Zebb's aunt's home. Again, there is a reason that was done as well.

I don't know what to think on this one and I don't know why all three of them would work together to kill Zebb and hide his body. Such an odd case.

Out of curiousity, what do you think of the theory that she's still out there (http://mauramurray.blogspot.ca/)? Of all the Disappeared cases still unsolved, she seems to be the most likely to me of still being alive.

The top five facts uncovered were quite interesting to say the least:

Anything is possible but no, I just don't. Statically the likelihood of it is so incredibly low. She wasn't kidnapped, she fled and she was not in a good mental state whatsoever.(I don't believe a random murderer just happened to be wandering that area the moment she fled). For someone to hide for all these years they need good resources and be capable of thinking clearly. Her case has received so much national attention, I honestly believe if she was alive she would've been found. Maura wandering around with amnesia or in a homeless community just isn't something I find likely at all, not after all these years. Again, someone would have come forward that either gave her a ride or came in contact with her as she fled New England or the area. It was such a huge case at the time and continues to be. Yet, not one person came forward even with a reward.

Yes, I have read all about Maura's troubling behavior/incidents prior to her disappearance. Were all human and its obvious Maura had her issues as many do. I can understand in some ways why her family, such as her father, wouldn't want all that information out there (maybe in a way to protect her memory/image). In the case of Ben on Disappeared (the diver who disappeared scuba diving but his body has never been found), his parents covered up a lot of facts. Even to the point of saying his younger brother died of a stroke. In reality, he had died of a massive drug overdose and didn't have a stroke whatsoever. A lot of these families are thrust into the media spotlight because they want to get word out about their missing child but they aren't perfect. I think a lot of them whitewash or even downright lie about their families or child's skeletons in the closet to protect them from possible scrutiny or criticism. Maura's dad isn't much different to me in that respect.

I am very willing to bet Maura was drunk the night she crashed her dads car (before she vanished, as she had left a party). I'm not saying she an actual alcoholic but she was, IMO, battling demons and was using alcohol at times to cope. She was making extremely poor and impulsive choices. She bought A LOT of booze for one person and I don't buy her friend saying "Well with some of the bottles you can make this mixed drink she liked." Given that open alcohol (wine, I believe) was found at the scene she fled from, I'm quite confided she was drinking and driving again. I don't know if she was in the middle of a breakdown but it sure seems like that. Her coworker/boss had said she randomly broke down crying at work and had to leave early but never said what was wrong prior to her vanishing. Again, Maura was in no state to have a well thought-out plan on how to start a new life without being detected. I think her body is somewhere in the rural woods.

Yes, I realize there the 1% of people who are found years and years later alive who voluntarily flee such as that early episode of Disappeared (Michelle?) I think her name was but there's a few big differences. Michelle's case was not a national spectacle like Maura. Michelle had lead a crazy lifestyle of partying, booze, jail and instability for years prior to her up and leaving. While the police looked into it, it was much easier for Michelle to Disappear and have the new people she came in contact with not know she was a missing person. Within a few days Maura case was covered by every national news network and even more intense coverage within New England. I truly believe someone would have come forward and said "Yeah, I gave her a ride that night." or "yes, I saw her come into this store after she disappeared." Or "Yes, I helped her out." None of those came. I just don't think she ever made it out of the area she vanished from.

I apologize for bumping this two year old quote, but, I re-watched this episode earlier. There is a "smoking gun" for both Jason Owens and for Misty Taylor.

On one hand, you have Owens calling Walmart pretending to be Zebb, calling in sick. There's clearly a reason he did that and I don't buy his excuse of "Zebb asked me to do it."

On the other hand, you have either Misty Taylor or her boyfriend, Wesley, page Zebb from Zebb's aunt's home. Again, there is a reason that was done as well.

I don't know what to think on this one and I don't know why all three of them would work together to kill Zebb and hide his body. Such an odd case.

If you've been following recent news coverage, Jason Owens is the main suspect in the murder of a Food Network star and her husband. I am hopeful we will get answers about Zebb soon...

If you've been following recent news coverage, Jason Owens is the main suspect in the murder of a Food Network star and her husband. I am hopeful we will get answers about Zebb soon...


Whoa what?! I think I saw the news about the Food Network stars murder but I never connected the name! oh wow

I apologize for bumping this two year old quote, but, I re-watched this episode earlier. There is a "smoking gun" for both Jason Owens and for Misty Taylor.

On one hand, you have Owens calling Walmart pretending to be Zebb, calling in sick. There's clearly a reason he did that and I don't buy his excuse of "Zebb asked me to do it."

On the other hand, you have either Misty Taylor or her boyfriend, Wesley, page Zebb from Zebb's aunt's home. Again, there is a reason that was done as well.

I don't know what to think on this one and I don't know why all three of them would work together to kill Zebb and hide his body. Such an odd case.

I feel it's possible Misty and company could have hired Jason Owens, though I don't know what motive any of them would have. It is a weird case that could involve collusion on the part of a lot of people.

Whoa what?! I think I saw the news about the Food Network stars murder but I never connected the name! oh wow

Yep. Here's a story (http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2015/03/21/murder-suspect-troubled-criminal-history/25156429/) about the connection.

I had never known about that Maura Murray blog until today. I just browsed it. Some VERY interesting material. I didn't know about the Google searches regarding alcohol and pregnancy, nor did I know that she may have been battling an eating disorder. It really does kind of lend itself to her running away, doesn't it?

I used to think she was the victim of foul play. Now I'm not so convinced.

Call me crazy but I tend to think Owens was the sole killer of Zebb. I just cant see if the police cant find a single connection between Owens and Wesley, I just don't see how one lead to the other. Its always possible but I think Owens did it.

I think a possible motive could have been money. If Zebb was carrying cash on him to put a possible down payment or to "hold the car" type thing. Or maybe they got into a minor fender bender but Zebb said it wasn't his fault or solely his fault and they got into a heated argument which ended in violence. I know he got a page from his Aunts house but we don't know if he did leave after receiving it as that info comes directly from Owens.

Call me crazy but I tend to think Owens was the sole killer of Zebb. I just cant see if the police cant find a single connection between Owens and Wesley, I just don't see how one lead to the other. Its always possible but I think Owens did it.

I think a possible motive could have been money. If Zebb was carrying cash on him to put a possible down payment or to "hold the car" type thing. Or maybe they got into a minor fender bender but Zebb said it wasn't his fault or solely his fault and they got into a heated argument which ended in violence. I know he got a page from his Aunts house but we don't know if he did leave after receiving it as that info comes directly from Owens.

This is the way I tend to lean as well, but the page coming from Zebb's aunt's home while Wesley and Misty were there is really, really intriguing. Especially considering that Zebb's aunt said she did not page him nor does she have any knowledge of anyone paging him that night.

If you've been following recent news coverage, Jason Owens is the main suspect in the murder of a Food Network star and her husband. I am hopeful we will get answers about Zebb soon...

Yea, I saw that. The page Zebb received the night he disappeared is what is throwing me off.

I kind of think that it might be nothing though. Everyone was so certain the McStays were in Mexico because of the google searchs on their home computer about Mexico and if kids need a passport and then the video surveillance that the police and public were pretty confident it was them. Sure enough it had nothing to do with it and they were murdered the night they vanished.

So, again as odd as the page was it might have nothing to do with the actual and presumed murder of Zebb. Maybe Wesley or the girl did page Zebb from the aunts house (as they knew her well.). Maybe Wesley wanted to confront Zebb and give him an ass kicking for going after his girlfriend. It might have nothing to do with the actual murder. Im not one to believe in coincidences for the most part but the police cant find a single connection between Owens and Wesley even after 15 years. They cant even find one acquaintance or one possible connection between the two I have read

Also, Does anyone else feel it was a set up from Owens? Like who goes to see a car for sale when its dark out? at 930-10pm at night? Did the police or were they able to verify that an Eclipse (the type of car Zebb was looking to buy and was told that was the car for sale) was indeed for sale in the area. Disappeared never said if it was verified that the car actually existed.

On the Charley Project, it said that his female friend wasn't considered a suspect. They do state they believe more than one person was involved in his murder although they don't state who.

I'm not sure if its been mentioned or not, but Leah Peebles father, John Peebles, died in a motorcycle accident recently. Very, very sad. He was one of the most sympathetic figures I've ever seen on a television program.

That Leah Peebles case was just sad all around, thinking of all the stuff that derailed a promising life. Though I do agree with everyone who liked her father, John. While he didn't make all the right choices, especially regarding the family friend that molested Leah when she was young, at the same time, I understand why he might not have known what to do about that situation. Most people would have a hard time trying to figure out how to deal with that situation. It's easy to point fingers and say, "You should have done this," when you're not actually in the thick of things, but I think John Peebles did the best he could. Plus, the lengths he went to trying to find Leah, walking up and down the streets the bad part of Albuquerque...get all misty-eyed whenever I think about or watch that segment.

Morgan Harrington, mentioned in a much earlier spot, is believed to be the victim of suspected serial killer Jesse Matthew, also the main suspect in the murder of Hannah Graham:

http://wtvr.com/2014/09/29/hannah-graham-morgan-harrington-connection/

That Leah Peebles case was just sad all around, thinking of all the stuff that derailed a promising life. Though I do agree with everyone who liked her father, John. While he didn't make all the right choices, especially regarding the family friend that molested Leah when she was young, at the same time, I understand why he might not have known what to do about that situation. Most people would have a hard time trying to figure out how to deal with that situation. It's easy to point fingers and say, "You should have done this," when you're not actually in the thick of things, but I think John Peebles did the best he could. Plus, the lengths he went to trying to find Leah, walking up and down the streets the bad part of Albuquerque...get all misty-eyed whenever I think about or watch that segment.

Very well said, I agree. After I first saw that segment, I would google the case every now and then for updates. Unfortunately, I think Leah is likely dead. Hopefully Leah and John have been reunited in the afterlife.

Here's an update on the Christina Morris case, which was the focus of one of the specials. While the case is still technically "unsolved" because Christina's body has never been found, it's pretty obvious that Enrique Orochi is responsible and he has been charged and will stand trial later this year. He was the last one to see her alive (in a parking garage at 4 a.m.), he has constantly lied and/or been uncooperative with the police, and her DNA was found in the trunk of his car. He also has a record of child rape, so he's definitely a scumbag.

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/2015/04/arochi-defense-requests-gag-order-in-morris-kidnapping-case.html/

More sad news: Robin Putnam, profiled on the spin-off show Last Seen Alive, was found deceased a few days ago. I was really hoping and thinking he would still be alive.

Curiously, he was found in Nevada despite last being seen alive in Utah. He lived in California and was en route to visit his parents in Colorado, so I have no idea what connection he would have had to Nevada. Thankfully, authorities are investigating his death. His death sounds suspicious.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-missing-years-found-dead-nevada-article-1.2342397

I sort of lost track of this one for a bit, but earlier this month, Jesse Matthew pleaded guilty to the murders of Morgan Harrington and Hannah Graham. He has received a total of 7 life sentences for these and other crimes, so he will be behind bars for the rest of his life. Thank God.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/31364541/matthew-guilty-pleas

I sort of lost track of this one for a bit, but earlier this month, Jesse Matthew pleaded guilty to the murders of Morgan Harrington and Hannah Graham. He has received a total of 7 life sentences for these and other crimes, so he will be behind bars for the rest of his life. Thank God.

http://www.nbc29.com/story/31364541/matthew-guilty-pleas
Thank you for posting this, I hadn't been aware that he pleaded guilty. I'm glad he won't be out on the streets and will remain unable to hurt anyone else.

Lee Cutler Sterling. Is who you are talking about, no updates as of 2016. He is still missing!

I'm glad you mentioned Samantha Bonnell because there isn't much info about her. I have watched her Disappeared episode many times and I'm sorry but things just don't add up. Why would a girl get up during a film and run out and no one follows her or goes to see if she's OK? Then she ends up running across one of the busiest highways in California? I don't fully trust the bf

I'm glad you mentioned Samantha Bonnell because there isn't much info about her. I have watched her Disappeared episode many times and I'm sorry but things just don't add up. Why would a girl get up during a film and run out and no one follows her or goes to see if she's OK? Then she ends up running across one of the busiest highways in California? I don't fully trust the bf

She had a long history of running off spontaneously. Witnesses said she had a blank stare which indicates drugs to me, and she had a history of drug usage. Drugs will make people do crazy things. I don't think there's much more to the story than that and I don't think anyone's responsible for her death.

I thought this was a strange case for Disappeared to air since she wasn't missing by that point and there's really no mystery here.

Actually i think you may be right. I forgot about the blank stare statement. I think probably her Mother and the police know it too. Maybe the magazine group gave her something and she went crazy. Do you know the freeway that she got hit on?

Apparently there was a new season of Disappeared.

Ugh, right when my Mom decides to get rid of AT&T Uverse.

The disappearance of Patti Adkins is one I'd really like to see solved. It's obvious that this man and his wife are behind Patti's disappearance/death. This was a ploy by both of them to use this woman's naiveté and vulnerability to get money out of her. He never had any intentions of having an actual relationship with her. This was emotional manipulation to further his ultimate agenda, which was purely financial. There is some evidence in this case and it seems like other cases have been solved with far less.

It looks like they're filming another season:

https://www.backstage.com/casting/disappeared-investigation-discovery-ep-811-147978/

A reddit user on /r/UnresolvedMysteries made a post about it. Cool to see they're doing a story on the Imbo/Petrone disappearance since there's seems like so little known of what happened to them.

On Disappeared's IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1563280/episodes?season=8) there are 3 episodes listed for season 8. The casting for one episode shows "Cody Pruett" which leads me to Kortne Stouffer who appears to be a suspect in her disappearance:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stouffer_kortne.html

Next up is the disappearance of Elijah "Bear" Diaz which I can't find a Charley Project page for, but there's various articles out there:

http://fox5sandiego.com/2016/01/22/search-continues-for-missing-el-cajon-man/

Finally is the disappearance of Angel Garcia:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/garcia_angel.html

It looks like they're filming another season:

https://www.backstage.com/casting/disappeared-investigation-discovery-ep-811-147978/

A reddit user on /r/UnresolvedMysteries made a post about it. Cool to see they're doing a story on the Imbo/Petrone disappearance since there's seems like so little known of what happened to them.

OH, EM, GEE!!!!!

That's great. I really liked this show and loved the in-depth treatment the missing got..

ID is airing a promo for the next season, airing Sunday March 26th. I hope and pray they have Christopher Walker returning as narrator.

that is great news!

My prayers have been answered! https://mobile.twitter.com/VoiceofWalker/status/841448034600914945

season 8 starts tonight episode 1 titled american gothic about the disappearance of wife and mother...lynn messer

her husband refused to speak or have anything to do with this disappeared episode

this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappeared_(TV_series)

lists all the cases and if people are found alive , still missing or dead

follow up...I fixed the link

He so did it. What convinced me was having his son move the cows to another pasture. Then her body is found just down from there? Nyah, he's a scumbag

As much as I disliked the husband, I think it's possible he did not kill her. This was a woman who had physical and mental health issues, who was on many medications, and had tried to kill herself six months earlier. A woman who was known to wander off on her own for hours at a time, even in the middle of the night, to try to ease her depression. I think it's possible she committed suicide and the husband was just embarrassed about it. I don't understand why, if he killed her, he didn't do a better job hiding the body.

The younger son and his wife were REALLY over-dramatic. I don't think they're guilty, but that was...odd.

this link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappeared_(TV_series)

lists all the cases and if people are found alive , still missing or dead

That link does not work. I think you need another ) at the end.

I don't think they mentioned the husband had been having an affair. Not very "Christian" of him and gives him motive