View Full Version : Not To Get Too Political, But is 'Maude' Too Liberal For Syndication Success?
Brian Damage 11-14-2010, 11:24 PM I am wondering why Maude has been off the airwaves for years? All in the Family has done really well in syndication, but Maude has basically disappeared from TV's. Why is that?
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catlover79 11-15-2010, 10:41 PM Your guess is as good as mine!! :confused:
OH Nuts! 11-17-2010, 03:35 PM I don't think it was bec. of the politics, bec. AITF had its ultra-liberal moments a la Meathead and it flourished in syndication. Still alive vibrant (and beloved) by many while Maude, as Brian noted, has pretty much faded.
Personally, I don't think Maude was anywheres near strong a show as AITF. It pretty much revolved around bulldozer Maude - and while her PUSHY personality may have been fun in the beginning, in the long run I think it wore thin with the viewers. (Too one-sided.)
While AITF did have its main characters, it had more variety and tackled controversial issues in a more sensitive, forthright and comprehensive fashion than Maude.
(I know, GOD will get me for this post LOL ;) - sorry couldn't resist)
P.S. But I will say this, the ep where she comes to visit Edith and take care of everyone is MY FAV of AITF. And that says a lot, since I love many of the eps - most in fact.
TVFactFan 11-17-2010, 04:15 PM I am wondering why Maude has been off the airwaves for years? All in the Family has done really well in syndication, but Maude has basically disappeared from TV's. Why is that?
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My guess
It's not a Family show
Main characters are middle age
Show wouldn't appeal to teenagers
Wasn't a show with FUN EPISODE TOPICS
biffbronson 11-20-2010, 10:25 AM I think those are good, interesting reasons you've listed -- although to some extent, Adrienne Barbeau appealed to me when I was a teenager...! LOL And she was one of the reasons I began watching as a pre-teen during the original run.
I found the series to be well-cast, etc., but for whatever reasons just not as endearing as AITF to me. Still though a good show and I would welcome seeing it in synd today.
TVFactFan 11-20-2010, 01:27 PM I think those are good, interesting reasons you've listed -- although to some extent, Adrienne Barbeau appealed to me when I was a teenager...! LOL And she was one of the reasons I began watching as a pre-teen during the original run.
I found the series to be well-cast, etc., but for whatever reasons just not as endearing as AITF to me. Still though a good show and I would welcome
seeing it in synd today.
But Barbeau had such a minor role on the show so I'm surprised you even saw her-lol
Dorothyfan1997 12-23-2010, 01:37 AM My guess
It's not a Family show
Main characters are middle age
Show wouldn't appeal to teenagers
Wasn't a show with FUN EPISODE TOPICS
*Ok but golden girls main characters were middle aged
8Many familys watched maude every night my father and all his brothers& sisters (my dad was only 13 at the time and his siblings ages ranged from 17-22) it was a famly show
*IM A TEENAGER AND I LOVE MAUDE!!!!!!!:mad:
*And most of the time it was comical!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad:
If I were to guess, its lack of syndication success is because Maude just seems extremely dated now. It especially when viewed with modern lens, is slow-moving and plodding, overly topical and heavy-handed, and contain scripts that are almost play-like. The show usually seemed to consists of fights and arguments with an occasional funny line.
TVFactFan 04-25-2023, 09:40 PM This thread is outdated because Maude remerged in syndication now that we are in the Digital TV era and no longer have to depend on Cable for watching TV shows
BestTVever 04-29-2023, 06:33 PM The political nature of the show had nothing to do with its lack of syndication. She was cast as the annoying liberal opposite as Archie as the annoying, bigoted conservative. While successful in its run, as others pointed out, it does not hold up as well as All In The Family. The scripts were not as good and the characters are not as good either. Maude had some great episodes and broke ground. But when I watch today, its hit or miss. When Florida left after the first season, it was not as good.
You’ve hit on a major point of discussion for TV historians. While both shows were massive hits in the 1970s, All in the Family remained a cultural staple while Maude largely retreated to niche networks like MeTV or the occasional DVD set from Shout! Factory.
Your assessment that the show’s topicality and loudness affected its longevity is supported by several common industry analyses:
Extreme Topicality: While AITF dealt with universal themes like generational clashes, Maude was heavily anchored in specific 1970s legislative and political battles like the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) and Nixon-era scandals. For younger audiences, these references often feel like a history lesson rather than a comedy.
The "Abrasive" Lead: You mentioned the "bulldozer" personality—critics have noted that while Archie Bunker was a "lovable bigot" whose ignorance was often the butt of the joke, Maude was a high-status, highly articulate character whose dominating and sarcastic nature could feel more punishing to viewers over 141 episodes.
The Loss of Florida Evans: Many viewers feel the show lost its best foil when Esther Rolle was spun off into Good Times. Without Florida to push back on Maude’s "limousine liberalism," the household dynamic became more one-sided.
Controversy Fatigue: Maude pushed boundaries further than almost any show, most notably with the two-part "Maude's Abortion" episode in 1972. While revolutionary, the sheer weight of its serious themes—including Walter's alcoholism and nervous breakdowns—made it less "comfort viewing" for the repeat-watch nature of syndication.
Technical Factors: Like many shows of its era, Maude has occasionally faced music rights issues or lower demand for videotaped (rather than filmed) content, which can make the visual quality feel "cheaper" compared to cinematic hits of the same period
TVFactFan 01-19-2026, 04:11 AM You’ve hit on a major point of discussion for TV historians. While both shows were massive hits in the 1970s, All in the Family remained a cultural staple while Maude largely retreated to niche networks like MeTV or the occasional DVD set from Shout! Factory.
Your assessment that the show’s topicality and loudness affected its longevity is supported by several common industry analyses:
Extreme Topicality: While AITF dealt with universal themes like generational clashes, Maude was heavily anchored in specific 1970s legislative and political battles like the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) and Nixon-era scandals. For younger audiences, these references often feel like a history lesson rather than a comedy.
The "Abrasive" Lead: You mentioned the "bulldozer" personality—critics have noted that while Archie Bunker was a "lovable bigot" whose ignorance was often the butt of the joke, Maude was a high-status, highly articulate character whose dominating and sarcastic nature could feel more punishing to viewers over 141 episodes.
The Loss of Florida Evans: Many viewers feel the show lost its best foil when Esther Rolle was spun off into Good Times. Without Florida to push back on Maude’s "limousine liberalism," the household dynamic became more one-sided.
Controversy Fatigue: Maude pushed boundaries further than almost any show, most notably with the two-part "Maude's Abortion" episode in 1972. While revolutionary, the sheer weight of its serious themes—including Walter's alcoholism and nervous breakdowns—made it less "comfort viewing" for the repeat-watch nature of syndication.
Technical Factors: Like many shows of its era, Maude has occasionally faced music rights issues or lower demand for videotaped (rather than filmed) content, which can make the visual quality feel "cheaper" compared to cinematic hits of the same period
I dont think it will ever be on Cable but the creation of Digital TV has given Maude New Life in syndication. I remember at the time this thread was created which was 2010, I hadnt seen a episode of Maude in about 20 years which was on my local tv network. Digital TV changed everything when it was created 3 years later
Alan Brady's Hair 01-19-2026, 05:08 AM I think All in the Family underperformed in syndication for many years, at least in comparison to the real powerhouses like Lucy, The Honeymooners, Andy Griffith. This blog post extensively quotes a 1989 article about "evergreens" - shows that never wore out in syndication:
https://tomsoter.com/node/1425
TVFactFan 01-19-2026, 04:27 PM Today I would watch Maude over AITF because Gloria and Edith were not on same level as Carol and Maude. Edith was too dingy and Gloria acted 6 year old. Carol on the other hand was a lot more mature and Maude was a lot more normal than edith
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