I was just wondering about this. I know Lisa is Christian, but does anyone know what, if any, denomination of Christianity she practices? Thanks.

she is a Born Again Christian

Originally posted by FolFanatic151
I was just wondering about this. I know Lisa is Christian, but does anyone know what, if any, denomination of Christianity she practices? Thanks.

In her latest book The Facts of Life and other Lessons My Father Taught Me she says the first church she went to was Baptist. And if I understand correctly her whole family started going there.

Hope this helps. :)

I thought about that also, I had to ask my dad a bunch of questions about that(he's a baptist preacher) anyway, I was at first thinking....that maybe she changed denominations because she said she USED TO have an occasional drink ya know on special occasions or something, well, I had the wrong idea because I thought that it was ALL baptist who couldn't drink, but ya know surprise surprise(yea right) I was wrong!NOt ALL bapstist churches are not allowed to drink so it may be a possibility that she is baptist.I'm not sure though........maybe that's a good question for someone to ask her.

She ain't a Baptist... I was reading some articles on her from a few years ago and she said herself she was a Born-Again Christian. Besides, the Church her scary husband works at is part of the Foursquare Churches, and I believe they are based upon Born-Again's or something along the lines of that

Hi, LW4Ever,
Lisa's husband Steve "SCARY"??:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Is it because of that one part in her journal where she suspects he was hitting potholes with the RV while she was showering during the drive on the freeway--so as to "punish" her? Well, there were some things she said about him that make me wonder... Funny, when I met them this summer in Bellingham and Bellevue, he seemed like a very nice, soft-spoken sort of guy. OR IS THAT THE DEAD GIVEAWAY RIGHT THERE????!!!!:eek2: (NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE) (Twilight Zone Theme Music)
As a matter of fact, Lisa and Steve belong to a Foursquare Gospel church which is Pentecostal/Charismatic--believing in the gifts of the Spirit. It may interest everyone to know that Steve's family were part of starting the Foursquare denomination.

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
She ain't a Baptist... I was reading some articles on her from a few years ago and she said herself she was a Born-Again Christian. Besides, the Church her scary husband works at is part of the Foursquare Churches, and I believe they are based upon Born-Again's or something along the lines of that

I just wanted to point out that I am Baptist and they say they are "born again" also. In the Bible it (being saved--a Christian) is refered to several times a s being "born again". Exa. In the story of Barnabus(sp?).

a born again christian means that you have bee saved..that is what they call it in every denomination...when you get saved they say you are"born again" because you start a new life with christ...i think i heard somewhere that she is a baptist.i'm not sure but that is what i heard.and i mean she kinda sounds like a baptist too....i dunno? i'll ask her when i go meet her

Yes, being 'born-again' is not a denomination. It is what every Christian is. I thought as well that Lisa was Baptist...




ks

Originally posted by Tad Warner

As a matter of fact, Lisa and Steve belong to a Foursquare Gospel church which is Pentecostal/Charismatic--believing in the gifts of the Spirit.

Are you talking about gifts of the spirit like she says in her book that Steve is a "Server?" cause we believe in that too.(Baptists) Just not all churches go all out and find out every person's gift.I'm a compassion person...lol...

Originally posted by Charlotte Rae Fan


Are you talking about gifts of the spirit like she says in her book that Steve is a "Server?" cause we believe in that too.(Baptists) Just not all churches go all out and find out every person's gift.I'm a compassion person...lol...

Exactly! I *think* my church also is like this. (baptist). Are you a Southern Baptist? J/W.

Originally posted by nancysbiggestfan


Exactly! I *think* my church also is like this. (baptist). Are you a Southern Baptist? J/W.


:wave: I am!



ks

Originally posted by ks



:wave: I am!



ks

Me too! :bye:

Originally posted by Tad Warner
Hi, LW4Ever,
Lisa's husband Steve "SCARY"??:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: Is it because of that one part in her journal where she suspects he was hitting potholes with the RV while she was showering during the drive on the freeway--so as to "punish" her? Well, there were some things she said about him that make me wonder... Funny, when I met them this summer in Bellingham and Bellevue, he seemed like a very nice, soft-spoken sort of guy. OR IS THAT THE DEAD GIVEAWAY RIGHT THERE????!!!!:eek2: (NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE, NEE-NEE) (Twilight Zone Theme Music)
As a matter of fact, Lisa and Steve belong to a Foursquare Gospel church which is Pentecostal/Charismatic--believing in the gifts of the Spirit. It may interest everyone to know that Steve's family were part of starting the Foursquare denomination.

Ok well as for the born-again thing, yall must excuse my lack of religious teachings... I don't go to church...anyways-

YES Steve is scary! I have had NIGHTMARES about him. *shuders* I am going to faint when I see him in May...

Originally posted by nancysbiggestfan


Me too! :bye:
:wave: over here too!

Originally posted by the_biggest_nancy_fanatic

:wave: over here too!

Me 4

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Ew I feel left out. I'ma Catholic. I know, I'll convert to a Baptist. hehe yes, that's what I'll do

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
Ew I feel left out. I'ma Catholic. I know, I'll convert to a Baptist. hehe yes, that's what I'll do

lol

Okies sista Jigaboo. ;)

Well ya know, I actually don't believe half the stuff other Catholics believe. I believe in the Rapture. That's like a no-no for us. Oh well. I'll switch when I'm 18. Unless you all have to go to church 39258209 times a week like Lisa W. does. Then I'll stay a Catholic :)

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
Well ya know, I actually don't believe half the stuff other Catholics believe. I believe in the Rapture. That's like a no-no for us. Oh well. I'll switch when I'm 18. Unless you all have to go to church 39258209 times a week like Lisa W. does. Then I'll stay a Catholic :)

Nope, we don't have to go to church 39258209 times a week.lol. I mean, we(Baptists) think ya should go to church but itz not like if ya don't go one Sunday or w/e ya gonna go to hell or something.

BTW, I didn't know that Catholics didn't believe in the Rapture.

Yeah believing in the Rapture is a no no for us. It's like a sin. So if I die a Catholic who belives in the Rapture, I'll prolly go to hell. You know it's sad, lol. I believe in so many things Catholics don't. Oh well.

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
Ew I feel left out. I'ma Catholic. I know, I'll convert to a Baptist. hehe yes, that's what I'll do

Karli, I'm a Catholic too! Stick with Catholicism for a little longer, please! :D

Ok, thanks for answering, everyone! I guess most of you think that Lisa's a Baptist, right? Cool, thanks.

Originally posted by FolFanatic151
Karli, I'm a Catholic too! Stick with Catholicism for a little longer, please! :D

Ok. I shall try I guess. But if I die and go to Hell for believing in the Rapture I'm going to be mad! :p

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever


Ok. I shall try I guess. But if I die and go to Hell for believing in the Rapture I'm going to be mad! :p

Ok good, you try. What exactly is the Rapture??? Sorry, I don't know.

Lisa's not a Baptist, she is a Foursquare Gospel Christian--a lot of
Baptists probably aren't up on the charismatic movement, but she
does appear at many different kinds of churches--she says in her journal she did even appear at a Catholic church on her rod trip.
(I happen to be a Free Methodist, but all this denomination-stuff burns me out.) I don't think anyone's going to hell for believing in
the Rapture, I just think that most Catholics may be leery of that
"Left Behind" apocalyptic literature that is glutting up the bookshelves. There has been too much of a focus on a certain view of the Rapture over the past thirty years by certain fundamentalist Christians that may bother Catholics (i.e. a best-selling book put out in 1970 called "The Late Great Planet Earth"
that got everyone believing in a specific view of the End Times.")

A few things-

1) I TOLD you Lisa wasn't a Baptist. I know she's not. I was right about the Foursquare. See, I know my Lisa!!!

2) Elizabeth...the "Rapture" is the belief of one day, all the good people will go to Heaven, and the bad sinners will just be left on earth. As Tad Warner said, many Catholics are leery of the thought of being left behind on earth. But, I just happen to believe it.

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever
A few things-

1) I TOLD you Lisa wasn't a Baptist. I know she's not. I was right about the Foursquare. See, I know my Lisa!!!

2) Elizabeth...the "Rapture" is the belief of one day, all the good people will go to Heaven, and the bad sinners will just be left on earth. As Tad Warner said, many Catholics are leery of the thought of being left behind on earth. But, I just happen to believe it.

Actaully, it is believed that the sinners will go to hell, not be left on earth exactly. It is sorta complicated, but it is explained to an extent in the book of Revelation. The anti-christ will come and rule for 7 yrs. (**i think**) and the sinners will be left on earth at that time. And will hafta get the 'mark of the beast' a number, to be able to work and earn food and everything. After this Christ will come back...To me, it is pretty complicated and difficult to understand at times. So I definately could be wrong on some of the stuff, such as the details. But the majority should be right. Maybe ks or D or someone else that is also Baptist could help on this. :)

Originally posted by nancysbiggestfan
Actaully, it is believed that the sinners will go to hell, not be left on earth exactly. It is sorta complicated, but it is explained to an extent in the book of Revelation. The anti-christ will come and rule for 7 yrs. (**i think**) and the sinners will be left on earth at that time. And will hafta get the 'mark of the beast' a number, to be able to work and earn food and everything. After this Christ will come back...To me, it is pretty complicated and difficult to understand at times. So I definately could be wrong on some of the stuff, such as the details. But the majority should be right. Maybe ks or D or someone else that is also Baptist could help on this. :)

Yeah I knew I wasn't right about some of it. I was just trying to give the sorta overview of it. Maybe if I read the BIBLE a little more I'd understand it better :p Ohhhhh... that's worse then I thought. The bad sinners will go to Hell? eek. I thought they would just stay on earth. Oh well I need to do a little brushing up on my scripture reading... excuse me....

Originally posted by nancysbiggestfan


Actaully, it is believed that the sinners will go to hell, not be left on earth exactly. It is sorta complicated, but it is explained to an extent in the book of Revelation. The anti-christ will come and rule for 7 yrs. (**i think**) and the sinners will be left on earth at that time. And will hafta get the 'mark of the beast' a number, to be able to work and earn food and everything. After this Christ will come back...To me, it is pretty complicated and difficult to understand at times. So I definately could be wrong on some of the stuff, such as the details. But the majority should be right. Maybe ks or D or someone else that is also Baptist could help on this. :)



Everything Tiffany said seemed right to me, but I think I can add a bit more. However, do not quote me on this because the Book of Revelatioin is a difficult one for me to understand...
One day Jesus will come back to earth, the trumpets will announce His arrival. The dead Christians shall be raised, and then the living ones, into the sky...
However the anti-christ will come. He will be publically killed and later rise from the dead, just like Jesus. This way people will believe he is the real Christ and began to worship him...
Those left behind in the rapture will be put through nothing but hard times, any horrible thing you can imagine...
After a number of years of the antichrist reign, it might be 7 I don't know, the earth will be burned and a new, peacuful and beautiful one created. Ya see, Baptists believe there has been two earths already-the one before the flood and the one we are living on now. After that period of time another one shall be built...


I find it all very confusing and I have difficult keeping alot of it straight, because, like I said, the book of Revelation is a hard one for me to udnerstand. Maybe yet another Baptist or Bible scholar could halp y'all out if ya want more info...





ks

Originally posted by ks




Everything Tiffany said seemed right to me, but I think I can add a bit more. However, do not quote me on this because the Book of Revelatioin is a difficult one for me to understand...
One day Jesus will come back to earth, the trumpets will announce His arrival. The dead Christians shall be raised, and then the living ones, into the sky...
However the anti-christ will come. He will be publically killed and later rise from the dead, just like Jesus. This way people will believe he is the real Christ and began to worship him...
Those left behind in the rapture will be put through nothing but hard times, any horrible thing you can imagine...
After a number of years of the antichrist reign, it might be 7 I don't know, the earth will be burned and a new, peacuful and beautiful one created. Ya see, Baptists believe there has been two earths already-the one before the flood and the one we are living on now. After that period of time another one shall be built...


I find it all very confusing and I have difficult keeping alot of it straight, because, like I said, the book of Revelation is a hard one for me to udnerstand. Maybe yet another Baptist or Bible scholar could halp y'all out if ya want more info...





ks

I find the book of Revelation hard to understand also, ks. I agree with 'bout everything ya said there. :)

Wow, I didn't think this topic would become this long! Thanks for explaining the Rapture, everyone. That's pretty confusing. I'd never heard of it before. The book of Revelation is really complicated. I've been taught that not everything in it is to be taken literally and some of the things predicted have actually already happened by now.

Didn't mean to make anyone think that Catholics were leery of the
Rapture, but that they were leery of the over-emphasis by certain
born again Christians that makes the end times too much of a fixation with some, as if their views are the only "right" ones.
But you know what, I think we should start a church that worships a PRACTICAL Perfect Being--like BLAIR!!!! Okay, I'm getting blasphemous. It was a BLASPHEMY!! Was it a BLAST FO' YOU??:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm a Catholic, but my family isn't an all out thing. My mom and dad have to work on Sundays, so we almost never go to church. Personally I like the Luthern belief that if you believe in God, you'll go to heaven. No Strings Attached LOL The one thing I don't like is when people try to make their beliefs seem the only right way, and I'm really happy that no one here has done that at all on these boards. That's another good thing about Lisa, she's always so nice! LOL Anywaz.....

~Lisa Whelchel Rox (IMVHO)
-See Ya On the Boards!
Sean

Hey lauren it's Kiera or AKA jo lol just wanted to see what was goin on and who ur fightin w/ lol:wave: :talk: :lol: :happyface

Originally posted by Sean Feeney Snow
I'm a Catholic, but my family isn't an all out thing. My mom and dad have to work on Sundays, so we almost never go to church. Personally I like the Luthern belief that if you believe in God, you'll go to heaven. No Strings Attached LOL The one thing I don't like is when people try to make their beliefs seem the only right way, and I'm really happy that no one here has done that at all on these boards. That's another good thing about Lisa, she's always so nice! LOL Anywaz.....

~Lisa Whelchel Rox (IMVHO)
-See Ya On the Boards!
Sean
so u jus like the luthern cuz its the easy way orsomethin?that way you can go do whatever you want and still be a christian?
i dont really think that is right..i mean..He gave us so much to be thankful for anbd everything he did forus i would think that you might wanna give something bak to him then jus believe in him...cuz i mean..its like..if your friend does something really nice for you..lets make this as real as possible..lets say you friend saved your life...your friend put their life infront of yours to save you...wouldnt you wanna do something for that person in return?
ok..i dont wanna go all holy on everyone here so..i jus kinda had ta say that

Originally posted by JoPolniaczek12
Hey lauren it's Kiera or AKA jo lol just wanted to see what was goin on and who ur fightin w/ lol:wave: :talk: :lol: :happyface
lol not really a fight lol...i jus had to say one thing lol///ya see i didnt knw the lutherns believed like that and i'm not saying its the wrong thing either because i dont have the place to say that.but yeah ...heh

Well i see i gotta say somethin here :talk:
LOL well ya see i don't got a religion so i have no clue what u guys are talkin bout but i figured maybe u 2 could just ignore each otha and let this stupid topic pass lol (sounded like a nun, lol the ep where Jo wanted to become a nun) lol ahem.........:talk: :talk: :lol::rolleyes: :joke: :dance:

lol waaaaaaay too many things but my cuz like to see the little ppl dance lol right mikayla? ok she walked away anyways
C-Ya!!!:seeya:

lol oh no i dont wanna make nuttin of it lol omg i love dat j/k face thing haha...i'ma make a quick story if ya dont mind lol..no wait..i wont do it here..i'ma make a whole new post for it lol

Posted by Tad Warner:
Didn't mean to make anyone think that Catholics were leery of the Rapture

No, you were exactly right. They are leery of it. (Notice I said "they") Anyways, I guess it's just the fact of beig "left behind" that scares them. I've asked my preist at my church and a few other religious teachers and they said infact, that the Catholics are scared. That's why they don't believe in such a thing. But for some reason, about 7 years ago, I heard the idea and just became hooked on believing it so...

It's not just Catholics who are leary of the Rapture. I believe many Protestant Christians are as well. I have not read the book of Revelations myself but I find the concept of God indiscriminantly taking people and leaving others behind hard to believe based on everything else I've been taught.

I am a Lutheran and the idea that you get to heaven, no matter what, if you believe in God is not quite the whole story. Basically, Lutherans believe that you are saved ONLY by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. You are not saved by any good works you do in life only by your faith in Christ. But it is also emphasized that faith without works is dead, meaning you can't do whatever you want, bad things, and expect to automatically be saved because you believe that Jesus died for you. If you truly believe in Christ that will compell you to do good things not bad. You have to repent of your sins to be forgiven... Anyway, that's the short version on Lutheranism... I wouldn't be qualified to give the long one! lol

I learned about Pentecostals and Charismatics in a religion class I just took. They are into outward signs of the Holy Spirit, as in healing and miracles... I don't really disagree with that but that's not exactly my bag. I guess I'm just a stodgy Lutheran. I'm not really into the hand waving and touch healing thing... Fundamentalist Christians are really intense people, IMO.

Ookay, didn't mean to go off in a tangent....

Originally posted by Julia9
but I find the concept of God indiscriminantly taking people and leaving others behind hard to believe based on everything else I've been taught.

I just wanted to point out that God's taking of people won't be random, it'll be for those who follow Jesus (i.e. "Christians"). People who have chosen not to believe or follow will be left behind. However, they can still repent and turn to God during the tribulation. The point is that He will come and judge; we have been given the opportuinity to accept or reject.

I'm Catholic, and I've never heard of this whole Rapture thing. Oh well. In answer to my original question, Lisa is Foursquare Christian. Right? Or something like that? Thanks.

I see, I'm sure you're right. It's just that some people I've met who are really big on this make it sound as though some innocent people will be left behind as well. That's the impression I got with the Left Behind movie, etc. That's why the concept scares me quite a bit.

If y'all want another view, I'm a very devout Christian, and I'm a Pentecostal. And since we have, like 7 churches in our town, but all of my friends go to 4 main ones (2 Pentecostal, 2 Baptist), I have a new input for this. ***CAUTION*** THIS MAY BE OFFENDING TO SOME, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, LOL

The thing is, at our church, we're lucky to get through a sermon, because a lot of times we're just so overcome with the presence of God in the auditorium that we just spend the whole time worshiping Him. And a lot of times we also have speaking of tongues, and then someone interpreting what they said. But the weird thing is, young kids, newlyweds, and older people have all done it, but they all speak with such authority and a volume of the voice that it's kind of hard for me to not believe in anything like that. I mean, just the other day we had someone speaking in tongues, and someone stood up and interpreted it in that loud voice as saying something like, 'Do not worry, my children, for I am coming soon!' And that was like, the week after the attack, so we were all really happy ~n~ stuff, cuz we're all ready to see the Rapture (I'm explaining more about that later on, Revelation is my fav book in the Bible, and I have a pretty clear understanding of it). But yes, as someone said earlier, we really believe in the physical Presence of the Lord, as well as just His spiritual Presence. Now, on to the Rapture...

The Bible teaches us that, at some point during the last years of Earth, Christ will return and we will be caught up with Him into the heavens. Most people call this the 'Rapture' even though most Bibles don't use that word. We don't exactly know how the Rapture will happen. Will our clothes be left on the floor? Will our bodies disappear? Will it be so quick that no one will notice? The rapture and the other "end times" events can seem frightening sometimes. There is so much we don't know and even the things we do know lead us to more questions. We have to remember, though, that God will take care of us. When it all happend, it will seem just right to us because God will be handling things. (Exerpt from "The Extreme Teen Bible, NKJV")

From what I understand, the Rapture will happen when we least expect it, although there are signs leading up to it. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All of these are the beginning of sorrows. (Matthew 24:5-8)" That was Jesus, pretty much foretelling some of the things that are going to happen before He comes back to the Earth (the Rapture). That's wars, rumors of wars, famines, earthquakes, etc. And some of this has already happened! And then He goes on to say, "For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. (Matt. 24:21)" And listen to this, "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. (Matt. 24:36) And now y'all know what may initiate it, I'm gonna try and go on and tell what will happen after the Rapture, if y'all can bear with me!

There will be a scroll, with seven seals, opened by the Lion of the tribe of Judah, Root of David, in the image of a Lamb (a.k.a. Jesus). This is the first part of the Tribulation...

1st seal: The Conquerer. A white horse rides to earth; this symbolizes the Antichrist, who will come and rule the world.

2nd seal: Conflict on Earth. A red horse rides to earth; this symbolizes World War III.

3rd seal: Scarcity on earth. A black horse rides to earth; this symbolizes famine and inflation (moneywise, lol)

4th seal: Widespread death on earth. A pale horse rides to earth; this symbolizes death of 1/4 of the earth's population.

5th seal: The cry of the martyrs. People that died for Christ ask how long until Christ avenges their blood, and He answers that they must wait until both the number of their fellow servants and their bretheren, who would be killed as they were, was completed.

6th seal: Cosmic disturbances. A great earthquake; the sun becomes black, and the moon the color of blood; the stars of heaven fall to earth (meteor shower).

The mark of God now forms on believer's foreheads, that only fellow believers can see.

7th seal: Prelude to the seven trumpets.There will be silence in heaven for half an hour. The angels with the trumpets prepare themselves.

1st trumpet: Vegetation struck. There will be a hail and fire storm, burning up 1/3 of the grass and trees.

2nd trumpet: The seas struck. A great meteor, as big as a mountain, will be thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea will become blood. A third of the creatures will die, and a third of the ships will be destroyed.

3rd trumpet: The waters struck. A star, named Wormwood, burning like a torch, will fall from heaven onto a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. And many men will die from the water, because it is so bitter.

4th trumpet: The heavens struck. A third of the sun, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars was struck, so that a third of them were darkened. A third of the day, and a third of the night did not shine.

5th trumpet: The locusts from the bottomless pit. A star will fall from heaven to earth. It opened a pit, and the sky was darkened because of the smoke. Then out came locusts, sent only to harm people without the seal of God on their foreheads, not even the grass. But no one will die from their bite, and the bite will last for 5 months.

6th trumpet: The angels from the Euphrates. Four angels will be released, and 200,000,000 horsemen will kill 1/3 of mankind.

2 witnesses will stay in the Holy City (Jerusalem) for 42 months. And they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth. They cannot be killed until the appointed time. But when they are killed by the antichrist, their bodies will lie in the street. And the whole world will see them for 3 1/2 days, and they won't be buried. But after the 3 1/2 days, the Lord will breathe life into them, and they will stand. A great voice from heaven will say, "Come up here!" And they will ascend to heaven in a cloud. Immediately, there will be an earthquake, and 1/10 of the city will fall.

7th trumpet: The kingdom proclaimed. Loud voices in heaven will proclaim God the King, and there will be lightning, noises, thundering, and earthquake, and great hail.


Well, hey. Since I don't know if any of y'all even want to know this, I'm gonna stop here, unless y'all want me to keep going up to where Christ begins him millennial reign, k? Tell me if y'all do, cuz I really like doing this!

I'd like to hear more. :)

Originally posted by Julia9
It's not just Catholics who are leary of the Rapture. I believe many Protestant Christians are as well. I have not read the book of Revelations myself but I find the concept of God indiscriminantly taking people and leaving others behind hard to believe based on everything else I've been taught.

I am a Lutheran and the idea that you get to heaven, no matter what, if you believe in God is not quite the whole story. Basically, Lutherans believe that you are saved ONLY by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. You are not saved by any good works you do in life only by your faith in Christ. But it is also emphasized that faith without works is dead, meaning you can't do whatever you want, bad things, and expect to automatically be saved because you believe that Jesus died for you. If you truly believe in Christ that will compell you to do good things not bad. You have to repent of your sins to be forgiven... Anyway, that's the short version on Lutheranism... I wouldn't be qualified to give the long one! lol

i am a lutheran too. i was taught that you have to beleave in God and be bapized. and you dont have to do any good deads to get in to heaven. but you have to ask God to forgive you when you sin. but like julia9 said you are saved by the grace of God. but i just repeated every thing julia9 said.

I wouldn't say all Catholics are leery of Rapture because, well, I asked my mom and she'd never heard of it. We're pretty devout Catholics so I just wouldn't make the generalization that all Catholics are leery of it. You can't be afraid of something you don't know about. I just wanted to say that. I'm sure some Catholics know about it and might be scared but not all of us.

Sure. Didn't mean to generalize. I don't know enough about it to be talking anyway. I just know that the Rapture is a source of contention between the various denominations.

I am a sinner saved by grace, I am a nondenominational Christian because every denomination I've heard of in my oppinion missinterprets or disreguards something in the Bible which as I apply to my life as an absolute authority. Some of you have said that you don't appreciate people who believe that they're way is the only right way, but I don't understand how someone can not do so, Jesus said, "I am the way the truth and the life no one gets to the father except through me" This is what I believe, you dont' have to believe it God himself gave you this right by letting you choose, but this is what I believe is the way and I can't tell you that any other way is also the right way because I believe that this is the right way, that sounded very bland but I hope that you understand what I'm saying and I'm sorry.

a few questions, does anyone know like what that denomination that your saying that Lisa Whelchel is and like what they believe and stuff? And second why don't those of you that are Catholic believe in the rapture? My dad is Catholic but we dont' talk about that stuff adn I'd like to know more about what they believe

BlairW_1 - The Church I've been going to is alot like yours sounds and homestly I think its the most awesome thing I've ever expierenced. I have read revelation and done like minor study on it and I find it very interesting and I get the basics but you seem to have a much better grasp and understtanding on it them I do, but I don't realy wory about it to much cause I don't realy mined how I go as long as I know were I'm going (that sounded stupid but you know what I mean) and I'm not going to be around for the tribulation anyway so the only practical use that I can see for me personaly knowing about it is to tell and warn others and to influence witness to people so that they don't have to go through it. :confused:

I agree on that point CareBear. I hear a lot of people accuse others of being arrogant in their beliefs, because they think that their way is the only way. Well, I think you have to be that way to a certain extent. If you say "I believe what I believe but that isn't necessarily the right way" then what does that say about your faith? I think that the inclusive attitude toward all kinds of religions is all a part of the PC culture. If you are strong in your beliefs and aren't open to the possibility that you could be totally wrong, you are dubbed as being arrogant. I don't think that's right because you have to be confident in what you believe.

As far as Lisa Welchel, I asked my father what Foursquare is and he said it's a branch of Baptists. Maybe somebody already determined that and I didnt' see it in this huge thread! lol Anyway, Pentecostal is its own denomination but Charismatics often belong to other denominations like Lutheran or Methodist.

It gets crazy sometimes trying to differentiate between the different denominations, but we're all Christian. I think the differences between the various ones are all minor.

i agree with both carebare and julia9. just thought you like to know!:D

Does anyone else know any more about Lisa's religion?

CareBear: I can see what you're saying about needing to believe your religion is the right one. I mean, I do! But I think people were just saying how we weren't jumping down one another's throats fighting about whose religions are right. I think it's kind of nice how no one was criticizing the other religion. I'm sure most of us here believe our religion to be the right one so it's just kind of nice that we don't have to cause a big old fight over it. :) Anyways, I'm Catholic and have never heard of the Rapture so I can't answer your question about that, but if you have any other questions about Catholicism I can try to answer them.

Originally posted by CareBear
I'd like to know more about what they believe

Ok I'm just going to give an overview-

Most Catholics believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of all things visible and invisible; and in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the only-begotten of his Father, of the substance of the Father, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God, begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father. By whom all things were made, both which be in heaven and in earth. Who for us men and for our salvation came down [from heaven] and was incarnate and was made man. He suffered and the third day he rose again, and ascended into heaven. And he shall come again to judge both the quick and the dead. And [we believe] in the Holy Ghost. And whosoever shall say that there was a time when the Son of God was not, or that before he was begotten he was not, or that he was made of things that were not, or that he is of a different substance or essence [from the Father] or that he is a creature, or subject to change or conversion--all that so say, the Catholic and Apostolic Church anathematizes them.

[[Compliments of my wonderful Religion teacher, Sister Marie]]

Originally posted by Lisa Whelchel Forever



[[Compliments of my wonderful Religion teacher, Sister Marie]]

YAY! Hehe. That's awesome. I'll tell her you said she's wonderful. :D

Got any questions, CareBare?

:)

Originally posted by FolFanatic151


YAY! Hehe. That's awesome. I'll tell her you said she's wonderful. :D

Please do!! I miss her since she left OLOH :( Like I'm ever down there anymore lol but still

Amen, sister! err... brother... errr.... whatever... lol, I dunno ya :) hehee, at church the other day our pastor was talking about different denominations (wow) and he said that Pentecostals were "exuberant" faith expressers, "whether they express it by lifting their hands in praise, a big tear running down their cheek, or running and dancing and singing!" He shared his experience with the jehimah-mimah dance, or something like that, or shakira, or something, I dunno, but I was sitting next to his daughter, Charity (hehee, her name is Charity Money, lol!!!), and she told me all about it!!! lol, that was the funniest thing I ever saw!!! But listen, so as to not make this topic 40 pages long over 1 more post (lol) if you wanna hear my views about the rapture, or anything else in the whole bible, just email me or PM me or something (LiViN4HiM302007)

i did not mean to argue with any one so if what i said sounded like i was, sorry please dont take it that way.

Originally posted by Nancy McKeon fan!
i did not mean to argue with any one so if what i said sounded like i was, sorry please dont take it that way.

I dunno if I made anyone think like they were arguing, but hey, no hard feelings I dunno if that made sense, but I just felt like replying. :)