View Full Version : Horribly SAD moments on UM


SageSlowdive
10-02-2010, 12:50 AM
I mean, where you REALLY FEEL the victim's pain.

01. Gord McCallister saying he'd rather be dead then to live without his wife Jackie. (Blind River Rest Stop Murders)

02. Nancy Marshall saying everytime she goes out, she's looking for her daughter, no matter where she is. (Nyleen Marshall's abduction)

Both have since passed on, which makes it even more sad...

zack007attack
10-02-2010, 02:50 AM
Patty Doel-Tara Calico's mother. Its ashame she never knew the truth.

Susan Markowitz-I could feel her pain. At least justice has been served.

Gail Delano-Its such a sad story. She struggled to find that special someone in her life, but in the end, she gives up the way she did.

Jennifer Pratt-at the end of that segment, when they interview her and she is talking in a strange manner, I was heartbroken. Her whole life knocked over because of some selfish ******

Christine Mutzfeld-I don't believe she had anything to do with Todd's murder, maybe she was coerced into helping Mahfuz get away and he threatened her. Maybe that's why she is so afraid and is grieving over the fact that she is treated like a murderer.

Dwayne McCorkendale's wife-She said she would someday have to explain to her children that someone killed their father in cold blood. It must have been a very painful day for her to do that.

Charles Horvath's mother-her son went missing somewhere in the vastness of Canada, and she may never know what happened to him.

Gordon Page, Sr-he lives with regret that he didn't let his son back in the car and come home.

Patty Stallings-It makes me very sad to see innocent people put behind bars for things they didn't do, and it makes me even angrier when the only thing the prosecution cares about is blaming someone.

TracyLynnS
10-02-2010, 10:05 AM
The re-enactment of Angela Hammond's abduction, where her boyfriend's car breaks down while he's following her in the kidnapper's vehicle, and then Rob's interview about the whole thing.... I can feel his defeat, sadness, and frustration.

Kaitlyn Arquette's mom. Her daughter's murder was considered by the officials to be a random drive-by killing, but she's convinced Kait's shady boyfriend and his cohorts were involved. I tend to agree with her and you can really sense her pain and desperation in the UM segment.

I felt horrible about everything in the Leroy Drieth case. When he was killed, a random bystander told the EMT that it was suicide. They didn't investigate and no autopsy was performed..... on an 18 year old who died in suspicious circumstances! I don't know if the officials were just that stupid, in taking a bystander's word, or if they didn't believe in the interracial dating situation that Leroy was in (it was the 60s). And because of that, they didn't want to bother looking for the killer. The DA actually told his mom to go home and get over it. About 20 years later, an autopsy showed that he had been stabbed twice in the neck. The way they treated his mom, the way the surviving family suffered, the decades it took for the case to finally be taken seriously, and even after all that, there were still no answers.

Zlatko
10-02-2010, 03:33 PM
Gus Hoffman's mother begging the viewers to let her know anything about her son's death. You could feel her sadness and desperation; very sad moment.

greatgarrett2
10-02-2010, 04:59 PM
I mean, where you REALLY FEEL the victim's pain.

01. Gord McCallister saying he'd rather be dead then to live without his wife Jackie. (Blind River Rest Stop Murders)

02. Nancy Marshall saying everytime she goes out, she's looking for her daughter, no matter where she is. (Nyleen Marshall's abduction)

Both have since passed on, which makes it even more sad...

Sorry to hear Gord passed on,

I think of David Stone's mother at the end when she gets choked up about him missing...then they have an update that his remains were found. Sad...

crystaldawn
10-02-2010, 05:34 PM
The first segment that comes to mind is the heartbreaking update in the Christopher Day story where the dad found out he died at age 21 of leukemia and the father wasn't able to reunite with him. :(

MegtheEgg86
10-02-2010, 09:18 PM
Barbara Rondeau describing what her boyfriend Tom Roche meant to her. It was so very evident how deeply she loved him and the interview always really stuck with me.

Kathy Hobbs' mother reading the letter she left for her (as she apparently felt she wouldn't make it to her sixteenth birthday), and her stating that in addition to Kathy being her daughter "she was also a very good friend." :(

I definitely concur with Dwayne McCorkendale's wife Joannie as well.

SageSlowdive
10-03-2010, 09:50 AM
Patty Doel-Tara Calico's mother. Its ashame she never knew the truth.

Susan Markowitz-I could feel her pain. At least justice has been served.

Gail Delano-Its such a sad story. She struggled to find that special someone in her life, but in the end, she gives up the way she did.

Jennifer Pratt-at the end of that segment, when they interview her and she is talking in a strange manner, I was heartbroken. Her whole life knocked over because of some selfish ******

Christine Mutzfeld-I don't believe she had anything to do with Todd's murder, maybe she was coerced into helping Mahfuz get away and he threatened her. Maybe that's why she is so afraid and is grieving over the fact that she is treated like a murderer.

Dwayne McCorkendale's wife-She said she would someday have to explain to her children that someone killed their father in cold blood. It must have been a very painful day for her to do that.

Charles Horvath's mother-her son went missing somewhere in the vastness of Canada, and she may never know what happened to him.

Gordon Page, Sr-he lives with regret that he didn't let his son back in the car and come home.

Patty Stallings-It makes me very sad to see innocent people put behind bars for things they didn't do, and it makes me even angrier when the only thing the prosecution cares about is blaming someone.

I forgot about Gail Delano...

As soon as Robert Stack said "this beautiful town was only a prison", I kinda knew that's how the story would turn out....

RobinW
10-03-2010, 01:40 PM
Patty Stallings-It makes me very sad to see innocent people put behind bars for things they didn't do, and it makes me even angrier when the only thing the prosecution cares about is blaming someone.

I'd also say that David Stallings completely breaking down while talking about his son's death ranks as one of the most heartbreaking and hardest-to-watch interview segments on the show.

Kane
10-04-2010, 03:02 PM
I can't remember the woman's name, but there was a "lost loves" segment that aired during the 1996-97 season in which a woman was looking for a blood relative who might help her with an ailment that she was suffering from. When the segment was later rerun on Lifetime, there was a text update saying that she died in 1998. Sadly, her search was unresolved at the time of her death. :(

McBevis
10-04-2010, 06:31 PM
I can't remember the woman's name, but there was a "lost loves" segment that aired during the 1996-97 season in which a woman was looking for a blood relative who might help her with an ailment that she was suffering from. When the segment was later rerun on Lifetime, there was a text update saying that she died in 1998. Sadly, her search was unresolved at the time of her death. :(

I remember that case. The woman's name was Gale Samuels.

McBevis
10-04-2010, 06:33 PM
The re-enactment of Angela Hammond's abduction, where her boyfriend's car breaks down while he's following her in the kidnapper's vehicle, and then Rob's interview about the whole thing.... I can feel his defeat, sadness, and frustration.

Kaitlyn Arquette's mom. Her daughter's murder was considered by the officials to be a random drive-by killing, but she's convinced Kait's shady boyfriend and his cohorts were involved. I tend to agree with her and you can really sense her pain and desperation in the UM segment.

I felt horrible about everything in the Leroy Drieth case. When he was killed, a random bystander told the EMT that it was suicide. They didn't investigate and no autopsy was performed..... on an 18 year old who died in suspicious circumstances! I don't know if the officials were just that stupid, in taking a bystander's word, or if they didn't believe in the interracial dating situation that Leroy was in (it was the 60s). And because of that, they didn't want to bother looking for the killer. The DA actually told his mom to go home and get over it. About 20 years later, an autopsy showed that he had been stabbed twice in the neck. The way they treated his mom, the way the surviving family suffered, the decades it took for the case to finally be taken seriously, and even after all that, there were still no answers.

Another thing that I thought was just terrible about the Leroy Drieth case was when, after so many years, his sister finally tracked down the girlfriend, but the girlfriend was cold and rigid and basically wouldn't say a word.

TracyLynnS
10-04-2010, 07:36 PM
Another thing that I thought was just terrible about the Leroy Drieth case was when, after so many years, his sister finally tracked down the girlfriend, but the girlfriend was cold and rigid and basically wouldn't say a word.

Oh yeah.... She knows but won't tell. That's so frustrating. I don't know how she can live with herself.

Zlatko
10-09-2010, 08:06 PM
It was very sad in the Lisa Zigert case when one of her students had said in a sad tone "I wish there were more people in the world like her." It's depressing since you could feel her sense of loss.

sdb4884
10-10-2010, 12:41 AM
The way Alexander Sol Olive was treated by his father Ulyisses was very sad.

Apostapler
10-10-2010, 05:50 AM
I can't remember the lady's name, but she was looking for her twin sister, and found her family just weeks after her sister passed away. Hearing her talk about how she would like to have met her and spent time with her just "for an hour or two" makes me tear up every time I watch that segment.

SageSlowdive
11-06-2010, 01:58 PM
I just saw the Stallings kids case and I cried like a baby. Where in the HECK where these people from? She STILL got convicted even though it was scientifically proven she hadn't done it (think the Eileen Mangold case).

TracyLynnS
11-06-2010, 11:00 PM
I just saw the Stallings kids case and I cried like a baby. Where in the HECK where these people from? She STILL got convicted even though it was scientifically proven she hadn't done it (think the Eileen Mangold case).

Sage, I think the people who prosecuted Patty Stallings were definitely in their own little world, populated with with powerful, backward, ignorant, egoists.

But actually, they were from Missouri. The same state that convicted Johnny Lee Wilson, a completely innocent, mildly ******** young man, for the robbery and murder by arson of his elderly neighbor.

Investigators searched his house and found a bunch of old lady's underwear that they used as evidence against Johnny. They think he stole the granny panties from the murder victim. Turns out they were just his mom and grandma's undies, innocently folded away in their own dresser drawers.

I don't know if Patty Stallings and Johnny Wilson were investigated or prosecuted by the same jurisdictions, but those two bungled up cases sure make ya worry that every law enforcement professional in the state is so stupid that they pose a mass danger to the citizenry.

SageSlowdive
11-07-2010, 05:26 PM
Sage, I think the people who prosecuted Patty Stallings were definitely in their own little world, populated with with powerful, backward, ignorant, egoists.

But actually, they were from Missouri. The same state that convicted Johnny Lee Wilson, a completely innocent, mildly ******** young man, for the robbery and murder by arson of his elderly neighbor.

Investigators searched his house and found a bunch of old lady's underwear that they used as evidence against Johnny. They think he stole the granny panties from the murder victim. Turns out they were just his mom and grandma's undies, innocently folded away in their own dresser drawers.

I don't know if Patty Stallings and Johnny Wilson were investigated or prosecuted by the same jurisdictions, but those two bungled up cases sure make ya worry that every law enforcement professional in the state is so stupid that they pose a mass danger to the citizenry.

Don't forget how poorly they handled the Angela Hammond abduction.

MissFit29
11-14-2010, 04:45 PM
In the Gary Magnou story (psychic surgery), Randy Jones was a key interview. His parents, specifically his mother, were going to Magnou due to her declining health. Randy was skeptical, went through the "procedure", and called the cops on Magnou, as he suspected was a big ol' fraud. Randy's parents were so upset, they didn't speak to Randy again, because they thought he harmed more people by not allowing them access to Magnou's "services." Of course, mother was found to have 6 huge tumors, and never spoke to Randy again before her death. Very sad that this selfish man not only stole money, but also destroyed families through his fraud schemes.

rubber4532
11-17-2010, 10:22 AM
the Kathy Hobbs segment esp when her mom was reading the letter Kathy wrote. I got teary.

nicoge21
11-18-2010, 08:20 PM
Gord Mcallister from the Blind River case. It looked like he was about to cry before they took the camera off him.

SageSlowdive
11-19-2010, 04:41 PM
Gord Mcallister from the Blind River case. It looked like he was about to cry before they took the camera off him.

Completely agree - his very near death was more then likely caused by his depression.

truthbtold
02-05-2011, 05:37 PM
Without a doubt when Angela Hammond's abductor is being chased by her boyfriend and the transmission on his car blows out.

Clockworkhigh
02-06-2011, 04:05 PM
Christophe Day's father who never got to see his son finding out he died from cancer after he was kidnapped from the mother

There wasn't a specific moment, but Pat Conway seemed like such a nice man and a devoted father, a simple man who seemingly attended church with his wife regularily. He seemed sad in the segment.

Zlatko
02-06-2011, 04:57 PM
It was hard to watch Dustin Johnson in the Dennis Keith Smith case. Poor guy's mother was murder by his sick uncle. He was trying to hold back all those tears. :(

rerungirl
02-17-2011, 02:33 PM
I thought the actress who played the mom in the Matthew McConaughey segment did a really good job of conveying the horror she must have felt when she saw her son get shot in front of the house. That one always made me tear up (sorry, but I'm drawing a blank when it comes to the name of the victim and the creep who shot him). I always felt bad for Amy Billig's mom who passed away without ever knowing what really happened to her daughter. That alone would be unbearable, but she also endured years of sick and disturbing phonecalls from a guy who falsely claimed he knew where Amy was.

Oooga Chucka
02-17-2011, 04:03 PM
I felt really bad for Jared Dirickson when he talked about how his dad would not leave him behind.

sffan
02-17-2011, 09:12 PM
Without a doubt when Angela Hammond's abductor is being chased by her boyfriend and the transmission on his car blows out.
agreed. What makes it more sad it is still an unsolved case:(

James1990
03-03-2011, 08:58 AM
When Angela Hammond's boyfriend is chasing after the abductor, and his car's transmission gives way.

VikingsGal
03-04-2011, 07:09 PM
I just posted in another thread that some the re-enactments are kind of cheesy but in one of the saddest segments ever - Gordy Page, Jr - the re-enactments were NOT cheesy.

Good acting (by the actors!) to a sad story. I am a special education teacher so this story really touched me.

ayshren
04-27-2011, 09:08 AM
The segment about Gordon Page Jr. has stuck in my mind for so long. Hearing his father talk about the last time he saw his son and how if he had just done things different:(

RadiantEmma11
04-27-2011, 03:37 PM
I thought the Jim Fontes case was really sad....I mean granted he got his boys back unharmed but I think it was so sad and kinda refreshing that we got to see a fathers great love for his kids...we dont see that often enough on Television..it was also nice to see the touch of a human side of a police officer. I am glad his boys are back safe and sound but he lost all those years, his wife and her lover were very selfish people

WishfulDreamer
07-20-2011, 09:46 PM
The Liebling, when the mother (who plays herself in the reenactment) relents and lets the youngest child join his brothers and father. It's just so sad; of course she had no idea what would happen and even though it wasn't her fault, I would bet that she probably felt guilty. I feel really melancholy watching her interacting with the youngest kid while he packs his clothes and she very motherly tells him, "You don't need to take all your clothes, leave some here." Then she gives him a big hug and they all leave. How hard must it have been to portray herself in that segment?

Another child related one is the Jeeves segment. The little boy is so cute trying to carry the toolbox down the stairs and playing in the backseat. :( And that it was his birthday makes it all the worse.

I'm sure I mentioned this but I cannot watch the Gordon Page segment anymore. The part where he doesn't open the door for his son and the regret he feels make me cry.

Duane McCorkendale's wife- I felt so horrible for her and how she would one day have to tell the girls what happened.

The Sigmin segment when the friend interviews in silhouette and cries as she recalls that he mentioned he might be getting set up.

Joyce McClain segment in its entirety. So sad.

Judith Himes being all alone in having to deal with pregnancy and then more than likely succumbing to that cause. Because of the stigma of the times, she had no one to confide in.

April Gregory/ Kristen Smart case.

I also agree about the Dustin Johnson case. "But when I came back home, Mom wasn't there." I always want to cry with him.

lauracrook
07-24-2011, 10:05 AM
Dont know if any of these have been mentioned yet but here's a few segments that made me upset:

1. Theresa and Frank Wilson- ghost segment- where Frank dies of a heart attack at age 59 and appears in front of his daughter to get her to take down a letter he wanted to write to Theresa. Story of everlasting love- sad and soppy! :D

2. Colleen Ritter- When her ex boyfriend killed her parents in their own beds because he was angry at her for dumping him because he was very possessive! :(

3. Brook Baker-I always get upset when her mother talks about how devastated she is about her daughters death (as she understandably would be) and she says, "we miss Brook..and we always will..it's just..she's no here anymore."

MissFit29
07-24-2011, 11:56 AM
The one scene that always got me was the actor playing George Owens in the little store. The way he says "I can't find my wife..." was almost haunting. He was lost, in despair, and didn't know where to go. For me, that's one of the saddest moments.

Apostapler
07-24-2011, 12:59 PM
The one scene that always got me was the actor playing George Owens in the little store. The way he says "I can't find my wife..." was almost haunting. He was lost, in despair, and didn't know where to go. For me, that's one of the saddest moments.

It pisses me off that the lady just lets him leave. I scream at the tv, "Call the police to come help him, you dumb b****!"

TheCars1986
02-02-2012, 03:42 PM
The SADDEST moment in the history of UM would have to be when David Stallings was describing how his infant son died in his arms. :(

1990 UM fan
02-02-2012, 05:22 PM
The SADDEST moment in the history of UM would have to be when David Stallings was describing how his infant son died in his arms. :(

That made me cry.

The ones that make me sad are:

When they announced that Bill Day found his ex-wife and learned that their son, Chrstophe, died a year before from leukemia.

When one of Lisa Ziegert's students said she wished more people were as nice as Lisa.

When Patty and Dave Stallings lost their son Ryan and broke down in their interviews.

when Virginia Burns said that her dad loved her half-sister, who he had to leave behind decades earlier after a divorce.

when Jodi Huisentruit's sister said she couldn't imagine life without Jodi and hoped that she would be found someday.

when Debbie Baskin got teary in her interview and expressed that their youngest child feared being taken by her parents too.

when Robert James' parents cried explaining how they found him after a road rage incident turned deadly, ending up with Robert being shot in the head.

when Jeff met face-to-face with Kimberly Pandelios, who he now wished he would have helped because she ended up being murdered shortly afterwards.

when Jeffrey Ramos' mom got teary in her interview describing the condition of her son after his beating

there is more but can't put a finger on them right now

welshman
02-02-2012, 08:01 PM
I agree about the Kimberly Pandelios case but I do think that years afterwards they found out it wasn't her that he'd seen, but the look on the girls face was haunting.

SheRaaa
02-03-2012, 02:58 PM
I also found the Kristi Krebs case incredibly sad. She was a fragile young woman, and I could only imagine how scary/frustrating it would be to have your car stuck AGAIN in the woods alone, etc. If she did indeed have a breakdown, I could see why. I just felt so bad for her.

I also found the Patricia Meehan segment very sad. She seemed like a quiet woman who was trying to find her way in the world, and who knows what amount of bad things had transpired prior to her car accident. It seems like the crash may have been the "final straw" for Patricia's delicate mental state, and I felt very bad for her as well.

RedBasket
02-06-2012, 01:43 PM
The Stallings case was really sad - I felt so bad for the dad describing holding his infant son when he passed was so heartbreaking.

Necco
02-06-2012, 02:07 PM
The gentleman who named his daughter's doll after his first born daughter

Benjamin Todd who had nightmares about not being able to identify his kidnapped daughter, Savannah

The childlike innocence of Jenny Pratt wondering who would hurt her

Jeremy Rolfs talking about his fiancee Heather (and then later finding out that Jeremy himself died while serving in the Peace Corps)

Gordon Page's dad, thinking he was doing the best thing possible for his son, and realizing it resulted in his disappearance. Such a shame so little was known about autism at the time...

CanadianGuitaris
02-07-2012, 12:59 AM
I thought the Jim Fontes case was really sad....I mean granted he got his boys back unharmed but I think it was so sad and kinda refreshing that we got to see a fathers great love for his kids...we dont see that often enough on Television..it was also nice to see the touch of a human side of a police officer. I am glad his boys are back safe and sound but he lost all those years, his wife and her lover were very selfish people


Good one. I sympathized greatly, and perhaps even selfishly, with this one - something very similar happened to my brother and my nephew. Even with the loss of his children notwithstanding, there was something likeable about Mr. Fontes.

yellowVWchase
02-07-2012, 03:06 AM
The one scene that always got me was the actor playing George Owens in the little store. The way he says "I can't find my wife..." was almost haunting. He was lost, in despair, and didn't know where to go. For me, that's one of the saddest moments.

This one. When he starts to say that he used to like to dance, it's heartbreaking.

cuba_libre
02-09-2012, 04:41 PM
This one. When he starts to say that he used to like to dance, it's heartbreaking.

A sad segment! That actor in the reenactment was sooo in the pocket with his talent!

One that always got ot me was the April Gregory story! Her father sadly recounting how a neighbor girl looked similar to April and he just want his daughter back! When April's story was updated, it was even sadder....

WishfulDreamer
12-27-2012, 10:25 PM
The gentleman who named his daughter's doll after his first born daughter

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Which one is this?

TracyLynnS
12-28-2012, 09:33 AM
Which one is this?

A man's first daughter was taken away by his wife. When he later had a second daughter, he gave her a doll and suggest she name it Sweet Sue. As an adult, she found out that Sue was actually the name of her older sister that her father had never seen again.

Virginia, the second daughter, found out about this missing sister after her father's death and went to UM to help find her. After the segment, they were quickly reunited.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Susan_King

WishfulDreamer
01-20-2013, 06:41 AM
A man's first daughter was taken away by his wife. When he later had a second daughter, he gave her a doll and suggest she name it Sweet Sue. As an adult, she found out that Sue was actually the name of her older sister that her father had never seen again.

Virginia, the second daughter, found out about this missing sister after her father's death and went to UM to help find her. After the segment, they were quickly reunited.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Susan_King
Thank you!


Here's one that really gets to me. The Colleen Reed case. I made the mistake of watching a documentary about Kenneth McDuff and it describes her grisly fate. (The other killer actually covered his ears to block out her screams as McDuff beat her to death). Watching the UM segment is really hard, with her sisters interviewed and talking about moving on and hoping she was being kept somewhere even though it probably wasn't true. One of the sisters was interviewed in the documentary and described the horror that was done on her sister (her name is Lori Bible, IIRC). She seems really drained by the whole thing and to have aged a lot since the UM segment. And I can't blame her. I would be scarred forever to know my sibling went through such a thing.
I can't really watch the UM segment anymore now. :( Just so tragic.


Molly Bish's mother breaking down about losing children in America.

dynoguy88
01-20-2013, 02:05 PM
Molly Bish's mother breaking down about losing children in America.

Yeah, that always gets to me too. Especially when she says that if this can happen here, it can happen anywhere. I just want to hug her when she breaks down at the end of the segment.

Dee Ziegert's final words in the Lisa Ziegert always made me sad as well. About how life isn't always fair, that you have to be extra careful and sometimes even when you're extra careful, it's doesn't matter. How important it is for all of her students to know that this act cannot go unpunished.

UMFan95
01-23-2013, 10:06 AM
When Gordon Page Jr runs up to his dad's car before the home people take him away and his dad drives off and that was the last time his dad ever saw Gordon.

When George Owens tells the shop owner "I can't find my wife"

Anthonette Cayedito's 911 call.

WishfulDreamer
07-14-2013, 01:02 AM
Gary Grant Sr. being told about his son's death and having to be restrained.

The baby who dies from dehydration after her mother was murdered.

I know she's not popular on here, but I feel a lot of pain for Diane Strom as she cried about her daughter having a terrible brain injury she has to live with for the rest of her life.

All three road rage cases: The business man shot after pulling over to talk to the driver of the other car, the man shot while picking up doughnuts for the family and nearly living but not making it, and the baby shot through his teddy bear. I can't really watch these cases.

Kim Schwartz breaking down and saying she just wanted her daughter to be home and for everything to be ok.

MegtheEgg86
07-14-2013, 02:02 AM
Lisa Ziegert's student breaking into tears and saying she wished there were more people like her in the world was extremely heart wrenching.

dks64
07-14-2013, 12:23 PM
Gary Grant Sr. being told about his son's death and having to be restrained.

The baby who dies from dehydration after her mother was murdered.

I know she's not popular on here, but I feel a lot of pain for Diane Strom as she cried about her daughter having a terrible brain injury she has to live with for the rest of her life.

All three road rage cases: The business man shot after pulling over to talk to the driver of the other car, the man shot while picking up doughnuts for the family and nearly living but not making it, and the baby shot through his teddy bear. I can't really watch these cases.

Kim Schwartz breaking down and saying she just wanted her daughter to be home and for everything to be ok.

I forgot about that case. That was horrific.

TheCars1986
07-16-2013, 09:42 AM
Christophe Day's case is another hearbreaker.

tiddlywinks950
07-22-2013, 08:48 PM
For me, the Susan Harrison case made my stomach turn. There was an update to her case the first time I watched it, and seeing the footage of the creek in the woods was awful. I was a little girl when I first saw that, but even being so young, I knew what that footage meant. If I had watched that case as a young woman, my first impression would probably be that Susan ran away to escape abuse from that scumbag, but sadly, it wasn't so. What made the update worse was when Stack described the probability that she was murdered, "Probably on the day she disappeared". Sickening.

DALLASTEXAN!!
07-23-2013, 01:03 AM
Christophe Day's case is another hearbreaker.
Yes it is. Rachel Runyon, the segments where the cops or firefighters died, and the case where a young girl was left to watch her mother and mothers friend die after they were brutally murdered. I don't remember the name of that one.

wiseguy182
08-11-2013, 09:13 AM
I agree with all the people that said Kathy Hobbs's mother and David Stallings Sr. In fact, i think those are the top 2 right there.

Kathy's mom reading the letter and following that up with "And she was a very good friend as well as being my daughter." is one of those lump-in-throat producing moments.

David Stallings talking about shutting the machines down and holding Ryan for a couple of hours afterward. I think he easily cried the most out of any man on the show. Heck, I think he cried the most of anyone period. A person would almost have to be made out of stone not to feel for the man.

WishfulDreamer
08-15-2013, 09:48 PM
Cliff Davis, a paramedic, responding to the scene of a shooting and realizing the victim is his own brother.

TheCars1986
08-17-2013, 08:32 AM
It's horribly sad that Cosgrove Muerer keeps taking these segments down off of the forbidden site.

WishfulDreamer
08-18-2013, 01:22 AM
It's horribly sad that Cosgrove Muerer keeps taking these segments down off of the forbidden site.
Those segments were up for years. I was pretty shocked when they became so vigilant about it. I was even finding really rare episodes like Todd McAffee and the Ramsey case right around the time they decided to take them down. :(

WishfulDreamer
09-24-2013, 08:04 PM
The video footage of Darlie Routier's sons before they were murdered. They were such beautiful little boys. I found the silly string video upsetting when they showed the surviving son looking at a picture of the two boys. :(

The Jacqueline Dowaliby case. I have a hard time watching when the segment shows David coming home and his wife crying and we see video footage of Jacqueline playing. That case is so heartbreaking.

wiseguy182
03-11-2014, 05:09 AM
I know I've mentioned that I feel the Kathy Hobbs case was one of the saddest ever profiled, but I wanted to expand on that thought.

It has been talked about that Kathy had a premonition that she would die before the age of 16. Once she had reached the age of 16, she felt very happy about it and was more optimistic. You have to wonder if she felt immune/invicible to a premature death, and it would certainly be understandable if she felt that way. That makes the case all the more sad. I really shudder to think about what her final moments were like.

And it was mentioned that they had moved to Las Vegas for a fresh start, so you get the feeling they wanted to leave any ugliness behind. Unfortunately, the UGLIEST thing imaginable happened.

And the mother's statement of "And she was a good friend as well as being my daughter." is one of those moments that gets me choked every time.

Throw in that the killer(s) apparently have never been caught, and this is just a sad case all the way around.

MegtheEgg86
03-11-2014, 05:48 AM
I know I've mentioned that I feel the Kathy Hobbs case was one of the saddest ever profiled, but I wanted to expand on that thought.

It has been talked about that Kathy had a premonition that she would die before the age of 16. Once she had reached the age of 16, she felt very happy about it and was more optimistic. You have to wonder if she felt immune/invicible to a premature death, and it would certainly be understandable if she felt that way. That makes the case all the more sad. I really shudder to think about what her final moments were like.

And it was mentioned that they had moved to Las Vegas for a fresh start, so you get the feeling they wanted to leave any ugliness behind. Unfortunately, the UGLIEST thing imaginable happened.

And the mother's statement of "And she was a good friend as well as being my daughter." is one of those moments that gets me choked every time.

Throw in that the killer(s) apparently have never been caught, and this is just a sad case all the way around.

+1

WishfulDreamer
03-11-2014, 06:20 AM
Agreed, wiseguy, I have a hard time watching that segment at all.

Another one that's hard for me is the Su Ya Kim segment. Such a tragic and senseless murder. I get choked up when her husband says, "I still truly love and miss her."

Oldschooler81
03-11-2014, 10:22 AM
I know I've mentioned that I feel the Kathy Hobbs case was one of the saddest ever profiled, but I wanted to expand on that thought.

It has been talked about that Kathy had a premonition that she would die before the age of 16. Once she had reached the age of 16, she felt very happy about it and was more optimistic. You have to wonder if she felt immune/invicible to a premature death, and it would certainly be understandable if she felt that way. That makes the case all the more sad. I really shudder to think about what her final moments were like.

And it was mentioned that they had moved to Las Vegas for a fresh start, so you get the feeling they wanted to leave any ugliness behind. Unfortunately, the UGLIEST thing imaginable happened.

And the mother's statement of "And she was a good friend as well as being my daughter." is one of those moments that gets me choked every time.

Throw in that the killer(s) apparently have never been caught, and this is just a sad case all the way around.

Definitely agree 100%. No matter what, Kathy's murder would still be a horrible tragedy of course, but in light of their situation, that was amplified so many times over. The fact that she was a withdrawn teen and had already been through so much heartache in her life (i.e. her parents' divorce some years before, when she'd been 8) and was just beginning to come out of her shell, only to have it torn away soon after. :(

My biggest hope is that the killer(s) have already been incarcerated for another crime. Were there any serial killers/rapists in the area circa 1987 who matched the M.O. of Kathy's killer? It's almost certain that she was just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and was a randomly selected victim.

LooksLikeCRicci
03-11-2014, 01:54 PM
The case that always got to me was the segment where a teenage girl was looking for the person who comforted her right after she watched her grandmother get hit by a car while crossing the street.

I thought the re-enactment of that was just heart-wrenching. Unfortunately, I can't remember the young woman's name. I do know she found the Good Samaritan, though.

dynoguy88
03-11-2014, 03:02 PM
The case that always got to me was the segment where a teenage girl was looking for the person who comforted her right after she watched her grandmother get hit by a car while crossing the street.

I thought the re-enactment of that was just heart-wrenching. Unfortunately, I can't remember the young woman's name. I do know she found the Good Samaritan, though.

That woman was incredible. In the shock of the moment, she comforted that girl, which was sweet on it's own. But then she goes through the trouble of going to the hospital to check on her, sit with her while they waited for the doctor and then console her once again when the doctor revealed that the grandma had died from her injuries. This woman was on vacation and she went to all that trouble to comfort a complete stranger. That is pretty amazing.

Unfortuantely, I can't remember any names either.

TracyLynnS
03-11-2014, 03:51 PM
The case that always got to me was the segment where a teenage girl was looking for the person who comforted her right after she watched her grandmother get hit by a car while crossing the street.

I thought the re-enactment of that was just heart-wrenching. Unfortunately, I can't remember the young woman's name. I do know she found the Good Samaritan, though.


I think it's this case:

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Savior_of_Wendy_Radcliffe

I'd totally forgotten about the part where the hospital staff told Wendy that her grandmother had stabilized and they could go into her room and see her, but when they got to her floor, Wendy was told there was a mistake and her grandmother was dead.

What a huge mistake that was, and right after everything she'd just witnessed at only 16 years old. No wonder she was looking for the lady to thank her for helping her through that whole ordeal.

WishfulDreamer
03-11-2014, 07:33 PM
It's probably been a decade since I've seen that segment, but I remember the accident reenactment and hospital error part. I'm really glad that Wendy found the Good Samaritan. What a wonderful woman.

Oldschooler81
03-11-2014, 07:49 PM
The case that always got to me was the segment where a teenage girl was looking for the person who comforted her right after she watched her grandmother get hit by a car while crossing the street.

I thought the re-enactment of that was just heart-wrenching. Unfortunately, I can't remember the young woman's name. I do know she found the Good Samaritan, though.

Yeah, I saw that around 1995 when it aired too (it happened in 1984). As horrific as it was, period, the fact that Wendy was unintentionally given false hope due to a hospital mixup, and her grandma was actually already dead, was horrible. :( That's pretty much probably how any of us would react in her shoes too. I can't even imagine if the good samaritan wasn't around.

P.S. I was already 13 when that aired, and already street smart (partially from being a huge UM fan), but that segment in particular made me extremely careful crossing the street to this day, and looking both ways about a million times.

Double P.S. Welcome back CRicci! :) I began posting alot in 2009-11, then more sporadically, now I'm more of a regular again. I think you'd already left by the time I joined, but I always enjoyed reading your posts.

LooksLikeCRicci
03-12-2014, 12:12 PM
Yeah, I saw that around 1995 when it aired too (it happened in 1984). As horrific as it was, period, the fact that Wendy was unintentionally given false hope due to a hospital mixup, and her grandma was actually already dead, was horrible. :( That's pretty much probably how any of us would react in her shoes too. I can't even imagine if the good samaritan wasn't around.

P.S. I was already 13 when that aired, and already street smart (partially from being a huge UM fan), but that segment in particular made me extremely careful crossing the street to this day, and looking both ways about a million times.

Double P.S. Welcome back CRicci! :) I began posting alot in 2009-11, then more sporadically, now I'm more of a regular again. I think you'd already left by the time I joined, but I always enjoyed reading your posts.

Hey, thanks! :wave: It's nice to be back. Life happens sometimes. I checked in quite a bit, but didn't really have time to post like I did back in my law school days... and now I have Baby CRicci keeping me extra busy. (No complaints-- she's worth it.)

And I totally forgot the hospital screwed up and told her that the grandma was fine. That made the segment even worse! I'm so glad there are good people out there who genuinely care for others and want to help them in times like that...

WishfulDreamer
03-14-2014, 04:42 AM
The Joe Weldon Smith segment gets to me for the tragedy, not just because of how scary it is. He murdered his wife and his stepdaughters who were only 12 and 20. Why?! It's just so senseless. :( The owner of the house was lucky to be able to get away, it's just a shame the three women weren't so lucky.

dynoguy88
03-14-2014, 09:14 AM
The Joe Weldon Smith segment gets to me for the tragedy, not just because of how scary it is. He murdered his wife and his stepdaughters who were only 12 and 20. Why?! It's just so senseless. :( The owner of the house was lucky to be able to get away, it's just a shame the three women weren't so lucky.

I agree. That's something that always seems to get lost in the scariness of the segment. It said he had once been convicted of attempted grand theft and had a long history as a con man. But being a killer is whole different ballpark.

We never find out why he did it. Did he simply snap? Did his wife find out about some of his con man activities? Then again, if he had already been convicted of grand theft, she must have known that he was shady. Why go to such extremes?

Kristy and Wendy's cousin actually pmed me on one of my old YouTube accounts a few years back before it got deleted. He wanted to see the update version of the segment. He seemed very nice but I didn't press him for info even though I was kind of dying inside to ask him why Joe became the psycho he was.

Nanodae
03-16-2014, 11:55 PM
The Angela Hammond case really upsets me, it just makes me want to put myself in either Angela or Rob's place at the time..
Angela probably knowing Rob is trying is hardest to get her back by chasing after the truck... but it wasn't enough >.< at least she knows he loved her :(
Rob because of how broken he must have felt not being able to save her or anything.. I have a partner and to think if that happened to either of us in such a way, it's really sad >.<

I always found the Patricia Meehan case a bit sad, I'm not sure how to describe it.. she just seemed so sweet and vulnerable in the photos as well as on UM, I know they were reinactments but from what her family said and from reading online.. she seemed like such a nice person.
I read about remains being found around the area she disappeared but there was no DNA to compare it to Patricia, the reconstruction looked similar to her :(

TheCars1986
03-18-2014, 01:26 PM
Doug Johnston's murder. The "mistaken hit" that was allegedly made for Don Deveraux. Poor guy had nothing to do with any part of the investigative reporting or the Inslaw scandal and was murdered for it.

Oldschooler81
03-20-2014, 08:28 AM
In 2002 at the very end of new (original) UM segments, you could tell Stack's voice was suddenly weakening and he wasn't quite himself doing the narration. In general it's tough for me to watch those very late episodes.

WishfulDreamer
04-16-2014, 04:16 AM
Always, Karen. I just watched it again and it makes me bawl every time (I rarely cry while watching television or movies), particularly the scene where her parents visit her in the hospital and her father tells her that she can go on if she's in too much pain and she asks her mother permission to leave, as in pass away, because she can't go on with the pain of the cancer. I don't have a definitive opinion on the supernatural aspect of this one, but I'm happy that her loved ones believe that she is still with them. It's a really touching segment.

LooksLikeCRicci
04-16-2014, 01:25 PM
In 2002 at the very end of new (original) UM segments, you could tell Stack's voice was suddenly weakening and he wasn't quite himself doing the narration. In general it's tough for me to watch those very late episodes.

Co-sign. I remember being a college student and watching the show thinking, "Wow. He sounds ROUGH...."

dynoguy88
04-16-2014, 02:15 PM
In 2002 at the very end of new (original) UM segments, you could tell Stack's voice was suddenly weakening and he wasn't quite himself doing the narration. In general it's tough for me to watch those very late episodes.

I thought his voice sounded weaker earlier than that, like right when the 2002 episodes started getting produced and we were all like, "OMG! New cases!".

But I don't know if I ever saw the last few episodes Stack did. If it sounded worse than his already weaker voice was, that would definitely be hard to listen to.

Oldschooler81
05-08-2014, 04:41 AM
I thought his voice sounded weaker earlier than that, like right when the 2002 episodes started getting produced and we were all like, "OMG! New cases!".

But I don't know if I ever saw the last few episodes Stack did. If it sounded worse than his already weaker voice was, that would definitely be hard to listen to.

True, I think perhaps his voice was starting to weaken on the 2000/01 ones as well. He was one of those guys that I thought for sure would live to 100, so his sudden decline in health was pretty tough for me to take.

I was shocked to find out his actual age (b. 1919 and mainly in his 70s all through UM's heyday). If you've ever seen Caddyshack II (I was probably one of the only ones who loved the sequel, as a kid it was hilarious to me), he was in pretty darn good physical shape for his age.

WishfulDreamer
05-11-2014, 12:38 AM
The beginning of the Zip Gun Bomber segment. The lady who died believed she was opening a Mother's Day present and was about to go on a vacation with her husband to visit family :(

Definitely the murder of Morris Davis, when his brother was the paramedic who responded to the scene.

TheCars1986
05-12-2014, 09:15 AM
Oneal Moore is another tough one to watch for me. Murdered by members of the KKK while he was driving home from work. The prime suspect in the case died before justice could have been served.

McBevis
05-12-2014, 03:08 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned here, and it actually happened too late to get mentioned on the show, but I imagine that it must have been terribly saddening for Steve Ross (aka Szmulek Rozental), the Holocaust survivor searching for the kindly American soldier, when he found out that the guy had already been dead for a couple of years before the UM segment first aired. It would be saddening enough just to find out that the guy had died, period, but building up all that hope over a period of years only to find out that you were screwed from day one had to be really awful.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-08-2014, 05:36 AM
Gary Grant Sr. being told about his son's death and having to be restrained.

The baby who dies from dehydration after her mother was murdered.

Two of my first choices. Can you imagine people are still calling Grant Sr. obsessed and saying he should just get over it? As if that were even possible (let alone desirable) in the unsolved murder of your own child?

That guy who picked up the hitchhiker who killed his mother.

The people who disappeared leaving a lot of birds, people knew the birds were alone and did nothing for ten days--in fact if I recall they were kept out by the cops locking the place! (That was literally a scream-out-loud moment! :mad: )

That poor mother of the murder victim who was fooled by the hoaxed radio confession.

The mother who found her murdered daughter under her own bed (as horrible as sad--I personally would never sleep again!)

The guy who was shot by the thrill killers pretending their car was broken down. (Actually these last two more make my blood run cold, than sad.)

Of course, around Christmas I always think of the mother of six children with the abusive husband who killed herself when the kids were taken away and requested "Silent Night" at the funeral...which the kids attended. One son said he got depressed every Christmas and I never saw the song the same way. :(

The poor man who cried so when his wife died after the tornado (in Arkansas in 1915?) and he had to give away the baby. His one wish was to find her before he died and he never did!

WishfulDreamer
12-08-2014, 03:39 PM
Agree on all of them, Cori. It looks like the last case, which I only vaguely remember, was solved but too late for the sister. Her children were reunited with their long lost aunt.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Vernicy_Bradford

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-09-2014, 12:03 AM
Agree on all of them, Cori. It looks like the last case, which I only vaguely remember, was solved but too late for the sister. Her children were reunited with their long lost aunt.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Vernicy_Bradford

Yes, I remember that being bittersweet but sad as far as the father was concerned, at least in this lifetime. No doubt he was surprised to find his long-lost daughter already in the afterlife.

Corkys-Place
12-13-2014, 02:45 AM
The arsonist who set fire to the Dog Kennels. Always a very hard one to watch. :(

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-13-2014, 10:59 PM
The one that really made us cry was the non-delivered World War II mail. They located the widow of a serviceman killed in the war, who had saved all his letters and said this was by far the best one. She was shown standing out in a cemetery crying and saying how receiving the letter tore her all up inside. :crying: :rip:

DALLASTEXAN!!
12-13-2014, 11:37 PM
The one that really made us cry was the non-delivered World War II mail. They located the widow of a serviceman killed in the war, who had saved all his letters and said this was by far the best one. She was shown standing out in a cemetery crying and saying how receiving the letter tore her all up inside. :crying: :rip:
That's tough. I can't imagine the pain felt by military families that lost their loved one.

For me the rachel Runyon case breaks me. Just to hear that detective saying those foul things. It's sickening.

DALLASTEXAN!!
12-14-2014, 02:39 AM
Another case I recall was the Cuban immigrant that was wrongfully convicted of rape in the Miami rapist case. That was based soley on eye witness testimony and corrupt detective work. thats not justice.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-14-2014, 06:48 AM
Another case I recall was the Cuban immigrant that was wrongfully convicted of rape in the Miami rapist case. That was based soley on eye witness testimony and corrupt detective work. thats not justice.

I remember him bursting into tears when he told of being convicted. Was that a final appeal?

DALLASTEXAN!!
12-14-2014, 12:52 PM
I remember him bursting into tears when he told of being convicted. Was that a final appeal?
It may have been a final appeal case from UM. I know he spent a lot of years in prison. I'm not sure it's been a while since I've seen it.

MegtheEgg86
12-14-2014, 06:49 PM
I'm 99% sure the Bird Road Rapist was a Final Appeal segment on UM, but I know for a fact it wasn't a Final Appeal: From the Files of Unsolved Mysteries episode.

Diaz was finally released, but I think it took over two decades and a DNA confirmation. :mad:

GeekBoyGreg
12-14-2014, 08:55 PM
The case that always makes me sad is of the little Canadian boy who disappeared in the 40s or 50s and his mother has been looking for him all these years. They interviewed his elderly mother who just would not accept that he was dead and knew he was out there. The segment ended with her looking at the camera saying "come home to me my boy." What made this case so sad for me was that I remember watching it thinking that this poor kid was probably killed the day he disappeared, but his loving mother just can't accept it. I don't recall the boy's name, but I don't believe there was ever an update (nor do I expect there ever to be one)

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-14-2014, 09:37 PM
The case that always makes me sad is of the little Canadian boy who disappeared in the 40s or 50s and his mother has been looking for him all these years.... I don't recall the boy's name, but I don't believe there was ever an update (nor do I expect there ever to be one)

Clifford Sherwood, and there's a lot of talk about things which could be done to follow up on the case, but no one does anything. I'm not even sure of who to contact to ask about having anything done. Another boy disappeared with him, and a relative of his has posted here.

DALLASTEXAN!!
12-15-2014, 02:30 AM
The case that always makes me sad is of the little Canadian boy who disappeared in the 40s or 50s and his mother has been looking for him all these years. They interviewed his elderly mother who just would not accept that he was dead and knew he was out there. The segment ended with her looking at the camera saying "come home to me my boy." What made this case so sad for me was that I remember watching it thinking that this poor kid was probably killed the day he disappeared, but his loving mother just can't accept it. I don't recall the boy's name, but I don't believe there was ever an update (nor do I expect there ever to be one)
This was a sad case although I haven't seen it since the early to mid 2000 lifetime days. The first time I saw it I was a kid and I saw the dads tex's photo and it scared me so I changed the channel. But later I watched the whole segment and it seems like it had to be very difficult for that mother.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-15-2014, 03:39 AM
I just added additional information to the thread about it.

WishfulDreamer
12-15-2014, 06:02 PM
I'm 99% sure the Bird Road Rapist was a Final Appeal segment on UM, but I know for a fact it wasn't a Final Appeal: From the Files of Unsolved Mysteries episode.

Diaz was finally released, but I think it took over two decades and a DNA confirmation. :mad:
I can't even watch this segment anymore. It sickens me. :( I believe Diaz spent 26 years behind bars before being exonerated.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-16-2014, 12:08 AM
One that really stands out was about the young Russian wife and mother living in the U. S. who had postpartum depression and couldn't get help although she asked. Her English was limited and the condition was not understood. She ended up drowning herself along with her four-month-old baby! :( As a matter of fact, I forget what the mystery was about! :crying: :rip:

WishfulDreamer
12-16-2014, 03:14 AM
One that really stands out was about the young Russian wife and mother living in the U. S. who had postpartum depression and couldn't get help although she asked. Her English was limited and the condition was not understood. She ended up drowning herself along with her four-month-old baby! :( As a matter of fact, I forget what the mystery was about! :crying: :rip:
That was a lost love case. I know exactly which one you're talking about but can't find it on the wiki and can't recall the names. I've only seen it once or twice back when UM was on the forbidden site. I think the oldest daughter was looking for her mother's family or something along those lines.

Cori aka ChrisSCrush
12-16-2014, 04:15 AM
That was a lost love case. I know exactly which one you're talking about but can't find it on the wiki and can't recall the names. I've only seen it once or twice back when UM was on the forbidden site. I think the oldest daughter was looking for her mother's family or something along those lines.

I thought the baby's name was Fatima but this has it as Famita. http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Margaret_Wizner

WishfulDreamer
12-16-2014, 02:27 PM
I thought the baby's name was Fatima but this has it as Famita. http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Margaret_Wizner
That's the one! I've never heard the name Famita before, but it could be a Russian name for all I know. I know Fatima is a common name and that would have been my guess as well.

DALLASTEXAN!!
12-16-2014, 08:23 PM
I can't even watch this segment anymore. It sickens me. :( I believe Diaz spent 26 years behind bars before being exonerated.
Yeah incredibly sad for sure that it could happen in our country. This detectives and DAs should do time.

WishfulDreamer
03-14-2015, 03:29 PM
The Brian Foguth segment. He may have survived if another customer hadn't happened to come up at that moment and triggered the bell that the killer may have taken to be an alarm. :( Police getting there within four minutes wasn't enough to catch the killer, either.

WishfulDreamer
07-05-2020, 04:01 PM
Old thread, but I'm bumping it because of the new UM.

When Pistol Black was told by his father that his mother had been found, and he said, "Cool, where is she at?" Then his father had to tell him that her remains had been found. I felt so bad for him throughout the entire episode, but most of all when he had that glimmer of hope she had been found alive.

In the House of Terror episode when the father kills the whole family and the lone surviving child is lured back completely unaware what has happened to his family--devastating.

And the final episode was a doozy as well. Lena was probably disposed of just like her stepfather, Gary, and it's doubtful any trace of her will ever be found.

TripleG
07-05-2020, 04:10 PM
Two that stand out to me:

1) The Larry Dickens Murder = From the reenactment, there was something about the sister ID'ing Bell, and then leaping into the car to take some shots at him that really got the water works going with me. She just witnessed her brother being shot in the driveway not long prior and her brother was killed right in front of her mother, and that moment of pure rage and sadness really got to me.

2) The Blind River Rest Stop killings. Gordon's whole demeanor in the interview was that of a broken man that was haunted by the loss of his wife and the whole ordeal. When it ends with him saying "I don't care if he comes after me...maybe if he killed me, he'll get caught this time". Something about that always depresses me when I see it.

marlins3
07-06-2020, 01:23 PM
Two that stand out to me:

1) The Larry Dickens Murder = From the reenactment, there was something about the sister ID'ing Bell, and then leaping into the car to take some shots at him that really got the water works going with me. She just witnessed her brother being shot in the driveway not long prior and her brother was killed right in front of her mother, and that moment of pure rage and sadness really got to me.

2) The Blind River Rest Stop killings. Gordon's whole demeanor in the interview was that of a broken man that was haunted by the loss of his wife and the whole ordeal. When it ends with him saying "I don't care if he comes after me...maybe if he killed me, he'll get caught this time". Something about that always depresses me when I see it.

Agreed on both accounts. On the Larry Dickens case (yes, I know this is against protocol), the arresting officers should have let her have a few free swings at Bell.


The case that always gets me is Christophe Day. My heart just breaks for Bill Day. Upon finally finding his ex-wife, he learned his son had passed away.

WishfulDreamer
03-30-2021, 02:39 PM
The reenactment of Ron Lieberman rushing to the apartment he shared with his wife, failing to get into the building, and calling "Sne!" in a desperate attempt to find her. Just horribly sad.

The entire Donna Baldeo segment. Horrific loss of life just because two juveniles thought it was fun to start fires.

Nancy Hyer being murdered simply because she wanted to do a favor to Billy Fischer by picking him up.

Molly Bish's mother saying, "You can lose your keys, you can lose your car, but how do you lose your child in America? Something is wrong."

Julie Cross trying desperately to get away from the man with the shotgun by jumping into the backseat of the car. Not to mention her colleague's speech about keeping her badge to honor her memory and a way to be with her.

dynoguy88
03-31-2021, 01:14 AM
I'm piggybacking off of WishfulDreamer with the Magi Bish quote. I have an amazing mother. I've been so blessed to have her and she has always showered me with so much love. Seeing her cry about anything is like a punch to the gut. And I've felt that way about many mothers featured on UM over the years. Their tearful words were always featured at the end to wrap up the segment and they always cut deep through your heartstrings.

Barbara Pasciak - (Mother of Paul Pasciak): "I've become a very angry, very hateful person. Your life is never the same. Part of you dies."

Rose Marie Maher - (Mother of Angela Maher): "She was friendly, bubbly, full of life and vitality...and always smiling. I had a young lady that was polished and educated, personable and loved life and this woman took that away...not only from me but from everybody else that touched Angela's life."

Linda Curtis - (Mother of Tammy Leppert): "I think Tammy is either a victim of foul play or she doesn't know who she is. I, as a mother, wanted to believe everything she told me and I wanted to help her. If I had to do it all over again, I would have gone back and I would believe every single thing she told me and I would just hide her some place until we knew what the truth was. But I can't do it over."

Nancy Marshall - (Mother of Nyleen Kay Marshall): "I still look for her, I always will. Every time I'm at an airport, every time I'm at a resort, every time I'm at an amusement park. Sure I look like I'm having a good time...but I'm looking for my child, every...single...time I am out."

Tillie Hack - (Mother of Cindy James): "If we could only find out what happened, I think it would be easier on us. Right now, we just wonder, what happened? What happened? I can see her in front of me. I can hear her laughter. The fun we had. You know, I still find it hard to believe that she's not there."

Magi Bish - (Mother of Molly Bish): "We're educating people and we're giving them tools, and the kids are going to get smarter...and they're not going to get our children, because you can lose your keys, you can lose your glasses but how to do you lose your children in America? Something is wrong, very wrong. And if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere."

Dee Ziegert - (Mother of Lisa Ziegert): "I think children always feel that nothing can happen to them. And when something happens to someone that so many of them knew, it brought it home that life isn't always fair. You have to be extra careful...and even sometimes when you're extra careful, it doesn't matter. This cannot go unpunished. It can't be something where this person gets away. And the children have got to know this. If it's important to us, it's even more important to them."

Debbie Baskin - (Mother of Kristi and Bobby Baskin): "You get up every morning and you think perhaps this will be the day that our FBI agent will call or someone will call and say, 'we've found the kids.' And then it doesn't happen. And you have a little boy who will go to bed at night and say, 'please don't let nanna and stomp come and steal me too.' And I don't have a family anymore. And I don't know if they're alive or if they're dead. They've threatened to kill the kids before they restore them. So it's fear, it's constant fear. The fact that my parents have stolen my children. It wasn't good enough to kidnap them, they had to destroy any love the children had for me by making them think I was some kind of a monster."

Vivian Hobbs - (Mother of Kathy Hobbs): "Someone out there walking the streets is killing kids...and they killed my daughter. And before they can kill someone else's daughter, I want them caught."

Rose Hoffman - (Mother of Gus Hoffman): "You can help me. If anybody knows where my son is, please, I beg you, please tell the police or call me. I want my son. That's the most important thing."

Do me a favor and hug your mother as soon as possible. It was draining just typing out those quotes.

WishfulDreamer
03-31-2021, 12:51 PM
Touching collection of quotes, dynoguy. I miss my mother everyday, and watching UM was one of our favorite ways to spend time together. I still remember which lines made her laugh or her favorite Stack moments when I watch now.

I would add Susan Billig to the list of quotes as well. I don't have the whole quote by heart and Filmrise cut it out but something along the lines of, "When Ned was dying, he said 'please don't forget Amy.' I said, 'I never could, I never would.'" and later she says, "I want my child. Alive, preferably. If dead, I want to put her next to her father. And I know if something happens to me, Josh will continue the search."

TheCars1986
04-01-2021, 07:23 AM
Probably unpopular, but I believe that Al Henderson was being sincere at the end of his interview on the UM segment when he said he would give up his money just to have Jean Moore back.

SageSlowdive
04-01-2021, 09:14 PM
Probably unpopular, but I believe that Al Henderson was being sincere at the end of his interview on the UM segment when he said he would give up his money just to have Jean Moore back.

Guess I'm in the minority with you...I believe most of his story.

mphs95
04-15-2021, 08:23 PM
True, I think perhaps his voice was starting to weaken on the 2000/01 ones as well. He was one of those guys that I thought for sure would live to 100, so his sudden decline in health was pretty tough for me to take.

I was shocked to find out his actual age (b. 1919 and mainly in his 70s all through UM's heyday). If you've ever seen Caddyshack II (I was probably one of the only ones who loved the sequel, as a kid it was hilarious to me), he was in pretty darn good physical shape for his age.

I loved the sequel too and I remember watching with my mom and when she saw Robert Stack, she was pretty impressed with how fit he was, especially compared with the other characters in the locker room.

PS: He and Dan Ackroyd were the best part of CS 2.

ChandlerMurielB1
05-25-2021, 10:22 AM
Harold and Thelma Swain segment

Jon
05-25-2021, 03:15 PM
I'm piggybacking off of WishfulDreamer with the Magi Bish quote. I have an amazing mother. I've been so blessed to have her and she has always showered me with so much love. Seeing her cry about anything is like a punch to the gut. And I've felt that way about many mothers featured on UM over the years. Their tearful words were always featured at the end to wrap up the segment and they always cut deep through your heartstrings.

Barbara Pasciak - (Mother of Paul Pasciak): "I've become a very angry, very hateful person. Your life is never the same. Part of you dies."

Rose Marie Maher - (Mother of Angela Maher): "She was friendly, bubbly, full of life and vitality...and always smiling. I had a young lady that was polished and educated, personable and loved life and this woman took that away...not only from me but from everybody else that touched Angela's life."

Linda Curtis - (Mother of Tammy Leppert): "I think Tammy is either a victim of foul play or she doesn't know who she is. I, as a mother, wanted to believe everything she told me and I wanted to help her. If I had to do it all over again, I would have gone back and I would believe every single thing she told me and I would just hide her some place until we knew what the truth was. But I can't do it over."

Nancy Marshall - (Mother of Nyleen Kay Marshall): "I still look for her, I always will. Every time I'm at an airport, every time I'm at a resort, every time I'm at an amusement park. Sure I look like I'm having a good time...but I'm looking for my child, every...single...time I am out."

Tillie Hack - (Mother of Cindy James): "If we could only find out what happened, I think it would be easier on us. Right now, we just wonder, what happened? What happened? I can see her in front of me. I can hear her laughter. The fun we had. You know, I still find it hard to believe that she's not there."

Magi Bish - (Mother of Molly Bish): "We're educating people and we're giving them tools, and the kids are going to get smarter...and they're not going to get our children, because you can lose your keys, you can lose your glasses but how to do you lose your children in America? Something is wrong, very wrong. And if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere."

Dee Ziegert - (Mother of Lisa Ziegert): "I think children always feel that nothing can happen to them. And when something happens to someone that so many of them knew, it brought it home that life isn't always fair. You have to be extra careful...and even sometimes when you're extra careful, it doesn't matter. This cannot go unpunished. It can't be something where this person gets away. And the children have got to know this. If it's important to us, it's even more important to them."

Debbie Baskin - (Mother of Kristi and Bobby Baskin): "You get up every morning and you think perhaps this will be the day that our FBI agent will call or someone will call and say, 'we've found the kids.' And then it doesn't happen. And you have a little boy who will go to bed at night and say, 'please don't let nanna and stomp come and steal me too.' And I don't have a family anymore. And I don't know if they're alive or if they're dead. They've threatened to kill the kids before they restore them. So it's fear, it's constant fear. The fact that my parents have stolen my children. It wasn't good enough to kidnap them, they had to destroy any love the children had for me by making them think I was some kind of a monster."

Vivian Hobbs - (Mother of Kathy Hobbs): "Someone out there walking the streets is killing kids...and they killed my daughter. And before they can kill someone else's daughter, I want them caught."

Rose Hoffman - (Mother of Gus Hoffman): "You can help me. If anybody knows where my son is, please, I beg you, please tell the police or call me. I want my son. That's the most important thing."

Do me a favor and hug your mother as soon as possible. It was draining just typing out those quotes.

Hall of fame level post :clap

ChandlerMurielB1
02-09-2022, 10:50 AM
The segment about Lady and Wolfka, the two dogs who disappeared. Lady ended up finding her way home, but no one seemed to care about Wolfka. :(

1990 UM fan
02-11-2022, 02:04 AM
I'm piggybacking off of WishfulDreamer with the Magi Bish quote. I have an amazing mother. I've been so blessed to have her and she has always showered me with so much love. Seeing her cry about anything is like a punch to the gut. And I've felt that way about many mothers featured on UM over the years. Their tearful words were always featured at the end to wrap up the segment and they always cut deep through your heartstrings.

Barbara Pasciak - (Mother of Paul Pasciak): "I've become a very angry, very hateful person. Your life is never the same. Part of you dies."

Rose Marie Maher - (Mother of Angela Maher): "She was friendly, bubbly, full of life and vitality...and always smiling. I had a young lady that was polished and educated, personable and loved life and this woman took that away...not only from me but from everybody else that touched Angela's life."

Linda Curtis - (Mother of Tammy Leppert): "I think Tammy is either a victim of foul play or she doesn't know who she is. I, as a mother, wanted to believe everything she told me and I wanted to help her. If I had to do it all over again, I would have gone back and I would believe every single thing she told me and I would just hide her some place until we knew what the truth was. But I can't do it over."

Nancy Marshall - (Mother of Nyleen Kay Marshall): "I still look for her, I always will. Every time I'm at an airport, every time I'm at a resort, every time I'm at an amusement park. Sure I look like I'm having a good time...but I'm looking for my child, every...single...time I am out."

Tillie Hack - (Mother of Cindy James): "If we could only find out what happened, I think it would be easier on us. Right now, we just wonder, what happened? What happened? I can see her in front of me. I can hear her laughter. The fun we had. You know, I still find it hard to believe that she's not there."

Magi Bish - (Mother of Molly Bish): "We're educating people and we're giving them tools, and the kids are going to get smarter...and they're not going to get our children, because you can lose your keys, you can lose your glasses but how to do you lose your children in America? Something is wrong, very wrong. And if it can happen here, it can happen anywhere."

Dee Ziegert - (Mother of Lisa Ziegert): "I think children always feel that nothing can happen to them. And when something happens to someone that so many of them knew, it brought it home that life isn't always fair. You have to be extra careful...and even sometimes when you're extra careful, it doesn't matter. This cannot go unpunished. It can't be something where this person gets away. And the children have got to know this. If it's important to us, it's even more important to them."

Debbie Baskin - (Mother of Kristi and Bobby Baskin): "You get up every morning and you think perhaps this will be the day that our FBI agent will call or someone will call and say, 'we've found the kids.' And then it doesn't happen. And you have a little boy who will go to bed at night and say, 'please don't let nanna and stomp come and steal me too.' And I don't have a family anymore. And I don't know if they're alive or if they're dead. They've threatened to kill the kids before they restore them. So it's fear, it's constant fear. The fact that my parents have stolen my children. It wasn't good enough to kidnap them, they had to destroy any love the children had for me by making them think I was some kind of a monster."

Vivian Hobbs - (Mother of Kathy Hobbs): "Someone out there walking the streets is killing kids...and they killed my daughter. And before they can kill someone else's daughter, I want them caught."

Rose Hoffman - (Mother of Gus Hoffman): "You can help me. If anybody knows where my son is, please, I beg you, please tell the police or call me. I want my son. That's the most important thing."

Do me a favor and hug your mother as soon as possible. It was draining just typing out those quotes.

All of the above. I was just thinking about the Gus Hoffman case yesterday and how Rose tried her damnest to find him. I feel bad that she died without being able to put his body to rest.

The segment about Lady and Wolfka, the two dogs who disappeared. Lady ended up finding her way home, but no one seemed to care about Wolfka. :(

This has always bothered me too. I sincerely hope he made it out of the forest and found a loving home.

GyorkLady
02-16-2022, 01:42 PM
The Francis Murphy portion of the Orphan Train riders segment. As a teenager he's sent out on the orphan train only to not be chosen by any of the families along the route, so he gets sent back to New York. Then he passes away before his interview on UM airs, so he never got to be reunited with his sister in life.

Victor Simon's segment. His backstory always wrecks me, especially his adoptive/foster parents. The whole thing gives me Georgia Tann/Ethel Nation vibes. The fact that he did find his relatives, but was never able to meet them before he died, is bittersweet.

Joseph Schambier's search for his daughter, and how that ended.

dynoguy88
02-16-2022, 06:35 PM
Victor Simon's segment. His backstory always wrecks me, especially his adoptive/foster parents. The whole thing gives me Georgia Tann/Ethel Nation vibes. The fact that he did find his relatives, but was never able to meet them before he died, is bittersweet.

The thing I always loved about Victor was how he responded to the horrible situation he was put in. He was adopted by a horrible couple who didn't want a son but a farm hand, a 5 year old who they forced to sleep in the barn with the animals and then they eventually abandoned him.

The fact that later in life, he was able to marry and have so many kids who he showered with so much love despite the fact that he was never given a proper model of what love is....it's a testament to the amazing human being he was.

He's one of my favorite people ever featured on the show. It's just such a shame that some bad luck prevented him from meeting so many of his family members.

ChandlerMurielB1
02-28-2022, 05:40 PM
Walter Rice

GyorkLady
02-28-2022, 06:00 PM
Walter Rice

Just went and re-read the wiki article on him. I hadn't heard or seen the update with the CIA angle before. That just makes it sadder, I think.

WishfulDreamer
11-04-2022, 03:43 PM
The UHAUL segment is pretty heartbreaking. The lady who was murdered was probably terrified that her children had come to harm, and passed away before she could learn that they were okay or before being able to seek help for herself. Awful that her children also found her in that condition. It's also extra infuriating that her killer didn't even serve twenty years in prison for his crime.

ghosthouse
11-04-2022, 08:26 PM
Two that stand out to me:

1) The Larry Dickens Murder = From the reenactment, there was something about the sister ID'ing Bell, and then leaping into the car to take some shots at him that really got the water works going with me. She just witnessed her brother being shot in the driveway not long prior and her brother was killed right in front of her mother, and that moment of pure rage and sadness really got to me.

2) The Blind River Rest Stop killings. Gordon's whole demeanor in the interview was that of a broken man that was haunted by the loss of his wife and the whole ordeal. When it ends with him saying "I don't care if he comes after me...maybe if he killed me, he'll get caught this time". Something about that always depresses me when I see it.

I won't even watch either of these segments anymore.

sterek1974
11-27-2022, 12:48 AM
For me, one of the most sad segments/moments, was the defeat on Brook Bakers mother's face (sorry I forgot her name) once the killer was discovered. She truly looked like Brook's murder and it being solved destroyed her spirit and her life. I do know she passed on a few years later and I always wonder if she just gave up after Brook's murder was solved.

Clockwork
01-03-2023, 01:35 AM
Norman Ladner's mother just seemed like such a sweet lady. Very soft spoken, very gentle, very feminine. Seemed very motherly. You wanted to give her a hug the entire segment.

Gord McAllister just broke your heart. Seemed like a guy who had no meaning after his wife was murdered. He died in 2012, but it seems as if he remarried after his wife Jackie died in 1991.

LooksLikeCRicci
01-03-2023, 10:15 PM
For me, one of the most sad segments/moments, was the defeat on Brook Bakers mother's face (sorry I forgot her name) once the killer was discovered. She truly looked like Brook's murder and it being solved destroyed her spirit and her life. I do know she passed on a few years later and I always wonder if she just gave up after Brook's murder was solved.

I fully maintain that mother died of a broken heart.

Hambone2421
01-05-2023, 12:00 PM
Hal Rodgers - the husband and father of the women killed by Oba Chandler. It wasn't on the UM segment, but on Cold Case Files, he said he kept the girls rooms the way they were when they left for years after they were killed. I always felt horribly for him. He had his whole family killed.

The wife of Matt Flores - a young man, newly married with a young child. I can't help but feel bad for the baby who will grow up without her father and for his wife, who is raising their child alone just as they were starting their life together.

The husband of Jody Bordeaux - The man's wife was pregnant with their first child and both were killed. I remember him saying that Jody probably died quick but the baby suffered. Very heartbreaking.

Gordon Page - I felt terribly for both Gordon Page and his father. I felt like his father was truly trying to do what was best for Gordon while also still trying to live his life with his family and juggle work. The fact that he has never been found, alive or dead, is very sad.

Hambone2421
01-05-2023, 12:02 PM
Gord McAllister just broke your heart. Seemed like a guy who had no meaning after his wife was murdered. He died in 2012, but it seems as if he remarried after his wife Jackie died in 1991.

Totally agree here. His entire interview is tough to re-watch. Especially when he said he doesn't care if he dies because he doesn't have his wife anymore.

Clockwork
01-06-2023, 01:57 AM
Totally agree here. His entire interview is tough to re-watch. Especially when he said he doesn't care if he dies because he doesn't have his wife anymore.

It is a little comforting to know that eventually he remarried. Hopefully he found some peace. Seemed like such a nice man. Died in 2012, I believe he was 84.

Janel "Jaycee" Miller
02-07-2023, 08:30 PM
In addition to many of the ones mentioned, I would add Roxann & Kristoff Jeeves.

It was Christmas time, it was the boy's birthday, and the cop gets choked up remembering that day. Our society tends to teach boys not to cry, so when I see a grown man crying it always makes me sad.

TheCars1986
02-08-2023, 08:44 AM
The Kenneth Frank segment all around is sad. In the beginning, Stack says they will not use her real name. When she is first shown on camera, instead of being identified by her pseudonym (like "Doyle" in the Michael Scott Martin segment), she is labeled "rape victim". She also was fearful to press charges against a doctor out of fear for her future employment opportunities.

khanartist79
03-22-2023, 12:46 AM
Whenever I rewatch the Amy Billig segment, I always feel pangs of sadness for her mother, who spent decades looking for her, and who was willing to fight the devil himself to bring her daughter back home. I can only imagine the effects that Amy's disappearance and her mom's dogged search for her had had on the rest of the family.

DazzlerSparkler
03-24-2023, 02:58 AM
Mary Jo Phebus in the George Owens segment. You can clearly see how visibly shaken the case made her. She looked on the verge of tears when she said she wished she would have done more in that none of this would have happened.

drew790
03-27-2023, 01:13 PM
The ending of the Randy Yager / Margie Jelovcic segment and the way the update drops always felt especially brutal.

https://youtu.be/ZRntO05jrG4?t=2612

DALLASTEXAN!!
05-05-2024, 02:28 PM
Jacqueline Vasquez's disappearance. watching the pain in her mother's eyes is very hard. that is one of the most real moments caught on UM, the part where Jacqueline's mom and Morgan Nick's mom are consoling one another always makes me sad.

Kevin Hughes. there are a lot of segments from the early seasons that bothered me as a kid, but this one carries over to adulthood. I get really sad and disappointed that such a great hearted person was brutally murdered because of blatant fraud and a performing arts industry that was allowed to be so corrupt. and here we are in 2024 where IDK if enough has changed.

Roxanne/Christopher Jeeves, now that this is solved I find myself unable to watch this segment.

Amy Bechtel, I feel heartbroken that she has never been found.

Lisa Marie Kimmel, watching the pain in her mother's eyes is really sad. I am very thankful that Lisa's mom posted here before. the latest thread that I read a post from her was in an Amy Bechtel thread.

dynoguy88
05-06-2024, 11:12 AM
Lisa Marie Kimmel, watching the pain in her mother's eyes is really sad. I am very thankful that Lisa's mom posted here before. the latest thread that I read a post from her was in an Amy Bechtel thread.

She’s a very sweet lady. And the pain is still evident in her eyes just as it was decades ago.

This is a segment as kid that was a little scary. But as an adult when you think about all Lisa went through while being captured by that monster, it makes me sick to my stomach. Murder is already horrible enough. I can’t wrap my brain around the multiple days of torture before doing the killing. Thank God Eaton is no longer on this planet.

whostolemyvcr
06-01-2024, 01:14 PM
I forget the name but there was this one Lost Love case where a father was trying to find his daughter he lost after WWII, I think he left it with the mother and the mother left it in the care of some woman in the neighborhood who in turn put it up for adoption, he never found her and it turned out she was killed in a car bombing by a jealous ex-Boyfriend in the 50s or 60s I believe. That one really bummed me out.

bell83
06-01-2024, 11:21 PM
I forget the name but there was this one Lost Love case where a father was trying to find his daughter he lost after WWII, I think he left it with the mother and the mother left it in the care of some woman in the neighborhood who in turn put it up for adoption, he never found her and it turned out she was killed in a car bombing by a jealous ex-Boyfriend in the 50s or 60s I believe. That one really bummed me out.

Joe Schambier. That was a really sad finding.

https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Alberta_Elaine_Schambier

DALLASTEXAN!!
06-22-2024, 01:38 PM
Dwayne McCorkendale's murder is really sad. A good man trying to provide for his family cut down for less than $20. I feel terrible for his family and his wife showed a lot of courage in her interview on the UM segment.

SPD Yellow
07-20-2024, 10:33 PM
It is a little comforting to know that eventually he remarried. Hopefully he found some peace. Seemed like such a nice man. Died in 2012, I believe he was 84.

I’m glad too. While there’s no such thing as closure, I always hoped desperately that Gord was able to know some happiness in the years following the crime. Hearing that he met someone and fell in love makes me really happy.

But seriously, the Blind River Rest Stop has long been my “Nope. Can’t even!” case. Not just because it proves that for all the silly UFO and ghost cases, UM could do a damn good low-budget horror short, but also because of the absolute, raw pain carved out on Gord’s face. When he says he wishes he’d died that night with his wife, you’d have to have a heart of stone to keep from bawling. :(

So like I said, finding out that he met someone and fell in love…

Forca84
08-21-2024, 05:43 PM
It's been awhile since I posted but... The segment about Mabel's Dog kennel being lit on fire is sad. And it's just so cruel. Plus I believe she died in a Nursing home. Without knowing who killed the Dogs....Megan Curler's segment. She went out to go Dancing and was tied to a Bed and lit on fire. It's so barbaric. And I think she was intellectually or mentally disabled. So it's possible she was an easy target. Someone who does that isn't going to stop.

ChandlerMurielB1
12-09-2025, 06:43 AM
Pedro Santiago Jnr - the young boy who was killed in a hit and run after going out to show his friend his new toy.

Laura Frankland/Delia Fazzani - Delia was forced to give up Laura when she was born by her domineering father. After Delia and Laura reunited thanks to UM, it doesn't seem that they formed a relationship, and Laura died in her 50s in 2019. From what she said in the segment, it seems as though Laura was happy with her adopted parents and was not much interested in her birth mother. I feel sad for Delia.

The one about the grandmother who died after being hit by a car whilst crossing the street on her way to a diner with her granddaughter. Her granddaughter was incorrectly told by a nurse that her grandmother was in a stable condition, but she had actually passed away. The granddaughter was trying to find a woman that helped her and stayed with her at the hospital.

baloony
12-09-2025, 10:25 AM
Oliver Munson's brother, James as the segment draws to a close. Oh my goodness. That poor guy is just broken. It's all he can do to get his volume up to be able to say the words. The way he pleads to just know SOMETHING, no matter how small it may be. Heartbreaking isn't even the word. If James is still with us, I hope he is doing well.

Allierain
12-09-2025, 07:38 PM
It's been awhile since I posted but... The segment about Mabel's Dog kennel being lit on fire is sad. And it's just so cruel. Plus I believe she died in a Nursing home. Without knowing who killed the Dogs....

Agreed. I won’t watch that segment anymore. If it comes on, I FF. Also the one about the baby beaten to death in Oklahoma. It’s just too angering.

tvscript124
01-24-2026, 04:42 PM
Gail Delano. I remember the segment, and rewatching it years later, it's heartbreaking to see that the poor lady had serious mental health issues. She was lonely, and desperate for love, but people like that are often think that a relationship will cure them. More often than not, it won't, because you bring whatever issues you have into the relationship.

Also, RS' sympathy for the family expressed on air was one of his classiest moments.

tvscript124
02-04-2026, 01:24 PM
Annie Laurie Hearin. Hearing that she's never been found, and seeing her son's heartfelt wish for his mother to be returned. I just rewatched that segment, and right now, the possible kidnapping of "Today Show" NBC anchor Savannah Guthrie's mother Nancy Guthrie is all over the media, including a heartfelt plea from Savannah and her siblings on Instagram for the kidnapper to reach out.

Annie Laurie Hearin and Nancy Guthrie have so many similarities.

* Both elderly women (Annie 74, Nancy 84)
* Both very frail (Annie Laurie was frail and Nancy has limited mobility)
* Both families tormented by the kidnappers' sadistic games (a ransom note regarding Nancy Guthrie was sent to TMZ reportedly, not to the family, pr even to NBC News where Savannah Guthrie works)
* Both in need of medication
* Both from prominent families, with Nancy's daughter Savannah obviously being a celebrity
* Bizarre demands (the twelve people named in the Hearin note and the demand for the ransom for Nancy Guthrie in crypto)

DALLASTEXAN!!
02-04-2026, 09:45 PM
She’s a very sweet lady. And the pain is still evident in her eyes just as it was decades ago.

This is a segment as kid that was a little scary. But as an adult when you think about all Lisa went through while being captured by that monster, it makes me sick to my stomach. Murder is already horrible enough. I can’t wrap my brain around the multiple days of torture before doing the killing. Thank God Eaton is no longer on this planet.

yeah, I agree. I'm only seeing this post now. didn't realize Eaton died? Or am I mistaken? I think I just posted about him in another worst of thread.

VHSJunkie
02-05-2026, 12:03 AM
Me too, I hate to think she suffered in her final moments/days(we don't know the exactly circumstances of her death) without food/water or access to her medication. All we can hope now is her remains are found so she can be laid to rest to her now late husband.

tvscript124
02-06-2026, 01:20 AM
Me too, I hate to think she suffered in her final moments/days(we don't know the exactly circumstances of her death) without food/water or access to her medication. All we can hope now is her remains are found so she can be laid to rest to her now late husband.

Amen. The guy that was arrested and went to prison for the kidnapping, Wynn, died. He never revealed where Annie Laurie Hearin's body was or what happened to her. Special place in hell for him.

We can only hope that Nancy Guthrie is recovered.

MediaHoarder
02-06-2026, 01:20 AM
* Bizarre demands (the twelve people named in the Hearin note and the demand for the ransom for Nancy Guthrie in crypto)

I wouldn't call the demands bizarre.

In the Hearin case those people had been sued by School Pictures and lost a significant amount of money, the motivation behind the demand was clearly related to that.

Its unclear at this point if the Guthrie note is in fact legitimate, but the motivation for asking for crypto is obviously its resistance to being tracked, ease of laundering, and international portability.

tvscript124
02-06-2026, 01:24 AM
I wouldn't call the demands bizarre.

In the Hearin case those people had been sued by School Pictures and lost a significant amount of money, the motivation behind the demand was clearly related to that.

Its unclear at this point if the Guthrie note is in fact legitimate, but the motivation for asking for crypto is obviously its resistance to being tracked, ease of laundering, and international portability.

Maybe bizarre is the wrong word. And crypto makes sense. But in the case of the twelve people in the Hearin case, half the people who were sued did not want any money and returned the checks. Maybe they feared that taking the money would look suspicious.

The FBI seems to be treating the Guthrie note as legit for some reason, but it's still unclear if it's real. If it's a hoax, it would potentially be a cruel hoax like some of the ones on UM.

MediaHoarder
02-06-2026, 01:34 AM
Maybe bizarre is the wrong word. And crypto makes sense. But in the case of the twelve people in the Hearin case, half the people who were sued did not want any money and returned the checks. Maybe they feared that taking the money would look suspicious.

The FBI seems to be treating the Guthrie note as legit for some reason, but it's still unclear if it's real. If it's a hoax, it would potentially be a cruel hoax like some of the ones on UM.

Yes I think all but 3 or something returned the cheques. That was likely a combination of not wanting to look suspicious and feeling it was wrong to recover lost funds, even if lost unfairly, as a result of such a crime.

The theory that prosecutors had, although never really proven, was that 11 of the 12 were not involved in the kidnapping, ie. they weren't asking for the money, which makes it more believable they would just return it. Although according to the wiki 3 did not.

The Guthrie note could well be an attempt to cash in on the situation by someone who had nothing to do with it. If the timing is tight enough that may rule out such a scheme, but otherwise someone hearing of a missing person tied to someone with significant assets could easily prompt a crypto ransom note (scammers try to get crypto and other assets from people even when no one is missing for that matter).

tvscript124
02-07-2026, 02:47 AM
Yes I think all but 3 or something returned the cheques. That was likely a combination of not wanting to look suspicious and feeling it was wrong to recover lost funds, even if lost unfairly, as a result of such a crime.

The theory that prosecutors had, although never really proven, was that 11 of the 12 were not involved in the kidnapping, ie. they weren't asking for the money, which makes it more believable they would just return it. Although according to the wiki 3 did not.

The Guthrie note could well be an attempt to cash in on the situation by someone who had nothing to do with it. If the timing is tight enough that may rule out such a scheme, but otherwise someone hearing of a missing person tied to someone with significant assets could easily prompt a crypto ransom note (scammers try to get crypto and other assets from people even when no one is missing for that matter).

Wynn was the only one that was ever held responsible for the kidnapping to my knowledge.

They have not been able to fully authenticate the first note, but they're all over it, and they're taking the subsequent notes seriously.

tvscript124
05-09-2026, 01:33 PM
When elderly couple John and Virginia Constable were killed by drunk driver Steve White. Thank God they caught the lowlife. I know AUD (alcohol use disorder) is a legitimate disease, but drunk driving is something else entirely.

tvscript124
06-03-2026, 12:34 PM
The Signal Mountain Murders. It's one of the scariest cases, and also the saddest. Those men did not have to die.