I Googled this and found out the sad news that Nyleen's mother had been raped and murdered sometime around 1996...

Yes we discussed this awhile back. Nancy Marshall's husband Kim had accepted a job transfer to Mexico and Nancy went down there to scout out potential living arrangements for the family. It was at this time that her family believes she was raped and murdered however the Mexican authorities ruled her death a suicide and refused to allow the United States jurisdiction to investigate.

however the Mexican authorities ruled her death a suicide and refused to allow the United States jurisdiction to investigate.

Typical

Typical

Why should the US be allowed jurisdiction to investigate?

The fact that her death was ruled a suicide is what I was referring to.

You're right. The US should not have been given jurisdiction. It's fine and dandy the way it was wrapped up apparently. :rolleyes: I know that's not what you're saying, but it's what I'm saying.

I have to agree with Zero on this.
It was fairly obvious her death not a suicide, but unfortunately since it was ruled that way and the US was not allowed to investigate her killers have gotten away scott free :mad:

Mexico is almost as bad as Florida...

Mexico is almost as bad as Florida...

Forgive my asking, but what's wrong with Florida???
I lived in Orlando for a year and I wouldn't say it's as bad as mexico.

The fact that her death was ruled a suicide is what I was referring to.

You're right. The US should not have been given jurisdiction. It's fine and dandy the way it was wrapped up apparently. :rolleyes: I know that's not what you're saying, but it's what I'm saying.


Of course the authorities blew it and they should be pressured to do their job but that a far cry from allowing US to take jurisdiction in Mexico. I'm pretty sure that there has been numerous cases of people from other countries getting murdered in the US as well as Mexican nationals and I'm sure the US would never allow another country to take jurisiction of a case on their soil. Same case here. Mexico is a sovereign country and no other justice department should be awarded jurisdiction there.

Forgive my asking, but what's wrong with Florida???
I lived in Orlando for a year and I wouldn't say it's as bad as mexico.

Go look up the Eileen Mangold case. If you can defend Florida after that, I'm all ears...

Of course the authorities blew it and they should be pressured to do their job but that a far cry from allowing US to take jurisdiction in Mexico. I'm pretty sure that there has been numerous cases of people from other countries getting murdered in the US as well as Mexican nationals and I'm sure the US would never allow another country to take jurisiction of a case on their soil. Same case here. Mexico is a sovereign country and no other justice department should be awarded jurisdiction there.


They more than just blew it. They were either really stupid and really believed she committed suicide, or they didn't give a sh-t and said "suicide" because, well, they didn't give a ----. Pathetic. Yes, Mexico is a sovereign nation (so is Afghanistan), and they have shoddy investigative practices. For whatever reason.

Most of the time, when foreigners are murdered here, the US just doesn't slap a "suicide" label on it the way Mexico does so often. Take those two Swedish hitchhikers profiled on UM for example.

While the US may not allow another country jurisdiction to investigate, the authorities typically put forth an effort to find out what happened and bring the suspects to justice. They don't just make it a point to add the name of an obviously murdered human being to the countries suicide stats. :rolleyes:

They more than just blew it. They were either really stupid and really believed she committed suicide, or they didn't give a sh-t and said "suicide" because, well, they didn't give a ----. Pathetic. Yes, Mexico is a sovereign nation (so is Afghanistan), and they have shoddy investigative practices. For whatever reason.

Most of the time, when foreigners are murdered here, the US just doesn't slap a "suicide" label on it the way Mexico does so often. Take those two Swedish hitchhikers profiled on UM for example.

While the US may not allow another country jurisdiction to investigate, the authorities typically put forth an effort to find out what happened and bring the suspects to justice. They don't just make it a point to add the name of an obviously murdered human being to the countries suicide stats. :rolleyes:

I'm not going to defend the Mexican authorities lack of professionalism or corruption but I have to laugh about people coming in a UM site, which is litered with cases of people obviously being murdered and being claimed as a suicide. Stuff like Keith Warren, Tommy Burkett and that kid that went out hunting just to name a few. So it happens everywhere, even if there is less frequency in some places than others. And what does Afghanistan has to do with anything. So now you Americans can decided where to violate the sovereignty of a nation if things go bad for them but nobody can do to them what they preach? If the US doesn't allow any country the juridiction to investigate in their own boardes (and rightly so) why should other nations do so to the US?

I Googled this and found out the sad news that Nyleen's mother had been raped and murdered sometime around 1996...
A sad ending to a sad case. i hope Nyleen is alive, but it's unlikely.

A sad ending to a sad case. i hope Nyleen is alive, but it's unlikely.

Completely agree.

I'd say as soon as she became old enough to be aware of what was going on, they (or he) killed her.

Nancy Marshall's "suicide" is just another example of how corrupt and unorganized Mexico's government is. Remember the case of the young man who went to Mexico, had a fight with his girlfriend, then was found dead in his jail cell, hanging from his BED POST.

but I have to laugh about people coming in a UM site, which is litered with cases of people obviously being murdered and being claimed as a suicide. Stuff like Keith Warren, Tommy Burkett and that kid that went out hunting just to name a few.

Good. Have fun with that.

Fortunately for you, Mexico shares your sentiments and feelings about not giving the US a chance to investigate. As a result, the killers got away with this horrific crime. But, oh well. Right? As long as Mexico doesn't let the big, bad US forever violate their sovereignty by *gasp* aiding in an investigation, that's a chance they've got to take. That's all that matters, I guess...

Unfortunately, most of the rest of us (though I'm speaking for myself here, not for all the other Americans) think it's ridiculous that Mexico would be so uncooperative. Like it's so bad to let a foreign country help bring the killers to justice... Me thinks the US investigators would have uncovered something corrupt. Possibly a rather unfavorable situation for the particular Mexican authorities working this case at the time.

Afghanistan had nothing to do with any of this. Really. I threw that in there just to do so. Please disregard.

Whatever. From the bottom of my heart, I hope something terrible happens to the people who killed this woman. Seriously.

Good. Have fun with that.

Fortunately for you, Mexico shares your sentiments and feelings about not giving the US a chance to investigate. As a result, the killers got away with this horrific crime. But, oh well. Right? As long as Mexico doesn't let the big, bad US forever violate their sovereignty by *gasp* aiding in an investigation, that's a chance they've got to take. That's all that matters, I guess...

Unfortunately, most of the rest of us (though I'm speaking for myself here, not for all the other Americans) think it's ridiculous that Mexico would be so uncooperative. Like it's so bad to let a foreign country help bring the killers to justice... Me thinks the US investigators would have uncovered something corrupt. Possibly a rather unfavorable situation for the particular Mexican authorities working this case at the time.

Afghanistan had nothing to do with any of this. Really. I threw that in there just to do so. Please disregard.

Whatever. From the bottom of my heart, I hope something terrible happens to the people who killed this woman. Seriously.


You first said take over jurisidction on the case, not help. And either way would a foreign government ever take jurisdiction of a case in the US? Will it ever be allowed? No. Then why should Mexico sovereignity be violated because it was an american was killed? If pretty sure hundreds if not thousands of Mexican nationals are murdered in the US and yet Mexican authorities would never be allowed jurisdiction because you can't do that in another country and rightly so. But apparently because it's the US and Mexico, then Mexico should allow the US to get jurisdiction and not doing so is wrong. The Mexican authorities did a bad job but like I said, UM is litered with cases of the same thing happening in the US so don't act as if it doesn't happen in your country either.

You first said take over jurisidction on the case, not help. And either way would a foreign government ever take jurisdiction of a case in the US? Will it ever be allowed? No. Then why should Mexico sovereignity be violated because it was an american was killed? If pretty sure hundreds if not thousands of Mexican nationals are murdered in the US and yet Mexican authorities would never be allowed jurisdiction because you can't do that in another country and rightly so. But apparently because it's the US and Mexico, then Mexico should allow the US to get jurisdiction and not doing so is wrong. The Mexican authorities did a bad job but like I said, UM is litered with cases of the same thing happening in the US so don't act as if it doesn't happen in your country either.

Don't know what country you're from, (not that it matters anyway) but I wasn't acting like anything. Stop reading between lines when there's nothing there. And I hate being a main contributer to a locked thread, so I'm going to stop replying to you now. Especially since you know I'm American and you're going to keep adding in little potshots.

Cheers. :groucho