they never show anything good its just same crap over and over again i mean wheres the monters and the addams family?? and why aren't they showing the monkees? the only real "good channel" and its going to pot too!

It's been going to pot for a few years now. There needs to be a channel just for classic tv. And that doesn't include any show that is in local syndication or on other cable networks.

Yes,it does.Remember the "good old days"of TVLand,when they DID carry classic tv from the 1950's,&1960's?When they first began,They DID once upon a time carry "The Addams Family","The Munsters","MyThree Sons",(Black and white and color)"Petticoat Junction","Green Acres","I Dream of Jeannie"and "Bewitched"(both black and white and color)"The Dick Van Dyke Show"and from the 1970's "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" and yes,"The Andy Griffith Show"(they are now running this to death.And yes,I KNOW some people like it),with FULL SCREEN closing credits,and all without those very irritating shrinking of credits at the end,which they do now.I mean rre

Disregard the I mean rre part.

The network has been going downhill for years. I think "Chasing Farrah" started the trend of mediocre programming. I'm still holding out hope for a Retro TV affiliate.

i HADN'T WATCH TV LAND inyears. i catch sanfrod andson from time to time ever cents they added everyonelove ramyond and the cobsy show i stoped watching it i did watch it when homeinmprvmet was on at decent time. i do watch homeinmprvent sometime bewitch, good time the jerferosn their coming back so i might sometime i watchthrees compaanys it kind of comes on late at nit. i heard they might get ride of the cobsy showi t about time. i don't like andy gritth every one love ramyon COMEAONFIFITY DIFERENT CHANELS. and now they got the nanny i can't stand frans voice so idon't watch it. i hadn't wach tv land for 5 or 7 years. just like cartoon network i hadn't wacht that channel over 10 years. espcialy now centsthe cartoon are getting dirty they keep add booges and farts to kids cartoons. my favorite show on tv land were macgyver the A-TEAM I LOVE LUCY THEWONDER YEARS PERFECT STRANGER AND FAMILY TIES. I used to watch baman when it was on. good time. i think tv land should chang their name to stupidland. then i think theyshould change their name to junk land. i rember a add were they said tv land doesn't show crap now all tv land does is show crap.

I don't get all the hate for TV Land. Ever since they have added The Nanny and Everybody Loves Raymond, I've been watching more than ever. Let's face it, the people that watched all those black and white shows are starting to fall out of their demo, and they don't care anymore. It's all about the ratings, and the newer shows are bringing in the viewers (and the demo), not the older ones. Sorry to tell you all, but as the years go by, networks change to get better ratings in their demo.

i stil think if they keeped adding more modern shows then they should change theri name isntead of tv land into modern land or something.

I don't get all the hate for TV Land. Ever since they have added The Nanny and Everybody Loves Raymond, I've been watching more than ever. Let's face it, the people that watched all those black and white shows are starting to fall out of their demo, and they don't care anymore. It's all about the ratings, and the newer shows are bringing in the viewers (and the demo), not the older ones. Sorry to tell you all, but as the years go by, networks change to get better ratings in their demo.Actually, they've been airing 90s shows since around 2004/2005 (but not as frequently). While they are moving forward, unlike other networks I appreciate that they seem to be trying to stay committed to classic TV as well.

I don't get all the hate for TV Land. Ever since they have added The Nanny and Everybody Loves Raymond, I've been watching more than ever. Let's face it, the people that watched all those black and white shows are starting to fall out of their demo, and they don't care anymore. It's all about the ratings, and the newer shows are bringing in the viewers (and the demo), not the older ones. Sorry to tell you all, but as the years go by, networks change to get better ratings in their demo.
Then they should change their name because that's not the reason the network was created and not the reason I waited 3 long years to get the network. Most of the 90's sitcoms are on other cable networks or are syndicated locally. It's just no big deal that they are on TV Land. You'll see in a few years when shows you grew up with are no longer broadcast anywhere. It sucks. There are hundreds of cable channels and not one outside of maybe RTN airs classic television. I had better choices back when there were only 3 networks.

Why should they change their name? I don't see how TV Land is a bad name for the network. IMO, TV Land means its just a channel with some television shows. I fail to see how it means very old shows from the 1950s and 60s.

This is old news. TVLand has been sh*t ever since they ditched their classic TV lineup and went for this more current garbage.

TV Land hasn't been good for a decade now. The only highlights since 2000 was Hot in Cleveland, acquiring those Screen Gem shows, and a few special event marathons where we got to see some rarely seen shows. Random movies, off-the-block schedules, original reality shows, endless back-to-back shows that are on DVD, and programming from the 2000s have all led to the decline of TV Land.

TV Land hasn't been good for a decade now. The only highlights since 2000 was Hot in Cleveland, acquiring those Screen Gem shows, and a few special event marathons where we got to see some rarely seen shows. Random movies, off-the-block schedules, original reality shows, endless back-to-back shows that are on DVD, and programming from the 2000s have all led to the decline of TV Land.
I totally agree.

I remember when they had that John Ritter marathon after he died. It went on all week with different shows. We hardly got anything when Aaron Spelling died. They just used to be a totally different network. Yea they still have a few classics but they rerun the same ones over and over. There's no variety. Theatrical Movies shouldn't even be on the network. If they want to show movies then show made for tv movies from years ago. Reality tv should be put in the garbage can anyway. Shows from the 90's and 2000's that have aired on other channels for years shouldn't be on Tv land. Most of them are still running in other places. The only good original show they have is Hot in Cleveland and that's because it stars classic sitcom veterans.

they never show anything good its just same crap over and over again i mean wheres the monters and the addams family?? and why aren't they showing the monkees? the only real "good channel" and its going to pot too!
"going to pot"? It went to pot years ago!!!

I STOPED WATCHing it after they cut off i love lucyandfamily ties. i stop watching it when they starting aring cobsy or roseann show. i defnlley stop watching when they added everyone loves ramyond.

I STOPED WATCHing it after they cut off i love lucyandfamily ties. i stop watching it when they starting aring cobsy or roseann show. i defnlley stop watching when they added everyone loves ramyond.
So you stop watching, and then start watching again?

seriously, it was always from 6-730 or to 8 now freaken from 6-7...there really pissing me off..hate this network already :mad: :mad:

I hope when The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air or Family Matters airs on TV Land I hope they will put Home Improvement in a decent time slot for ex: 9PM-11PM on TV Land!!!

I used to love Nick at Night and TVland, but not any more!

I used to love Nick at Night and TVland, but not any more!

Same here, same here.

I can't remember the last time I watch 15 Minutes ( Let alone 5 Minutes!) of TV Land!! I have not watch a Half Hour show on TV LAnd in maybe 3 or 3 Years now. I would watch If Lucy and Dick Van Dyke Show were on later (I am always watching the news when they are on) and if they brought Jeffersons and All In The Family, Three's Company back to a decent time. thanks goodness for Hulu and DVD's!

I still watch Nick @ Nite ever night. I lke the Nanny, Friends and George Lopez block. It not like it use to be but I still watch it over TV Land.

I can't remember the last time I watch 15 Minutes ( Let alone 5 Minutes!) of TV Land!! I have not watch a Half Hour show on TV LAnd in maybe 3 or 3 Years now. I would watch If Lucy and Dick Van Dyke Show were on later (I am always watching the news when they are on) and if they brought Jeffersons and All In The Family, Three's Company back to a decent time. thanks goodness for Hulu and DVD's!

I still watch Nick @ Nite ever night. I lke the Nanny, Friends and George Lopez block. It not like it use to be but I still watch it over TV Land.



I watch it on satudays................Roseanne

I don't have cable anymore and i'm not planning on going back.

TVLand sucks because it's pwned by Viacom who only cares about money...concluded!

Home Improvement deserves a much decent timeslot on TV Land than the latenight hours for ex: 9pm-11pm!!!

as far as ratings go they have not gone to "pot" they are actually doing really well. I do like that they do make their own series now. But I also like watching old reruns of shows from all decades from the past.

i quite watching t v land about four years ago for classc show i usaul watch hall mark the hub or me tv i really enjoying me tv i also been watching antted tv i don't watch tv land any more i hate every one loves ramyond i don't like that 70s show i only like kin g of queens i don' t think it should be on their i hand't watchthem since they took off home inmprovment and sanfrod and son i quite watching nick at nite when they started getting dirty i don't watch drity show i hate friends and that 70s show i can't stand gergeo lopez or the nanny. i just staring getting into anttied tv and me t v i do watch hall mark channel ev ery now and then now tv land gotten dirty with thieir own orgianl sitcomes

TV Land sucks now in the year 2013 too much reality shows about people acting crazy,and why is everybody loves raymond on tv land that show is not even close to being old,has anybody noticed how much tv land has changed in 11 years ?

I recently found out they cut a lot of scenes from that episode of Bonanza where Marlo Thomas played the Chinese Mail-Order Bride, who turned out to be a political activist.

as far as ratings go they have not gone to "pot" they are actually doing really well. I do like that they do make their own series now. But I also like watching old reruns of shows from all decades from the past.


I dont even mind that they have there own shows. Its just the fact that there's too many of them and they use there classic shows as props to promote them. Dick Van Dyke, I Love Lucy etc., to me, are just there so TV Land can promote the hell out of Hot in Cleveland.

There needs to be a channel just for classic tv. And that doesn't include any show that is in local syndication or on other cable networks.

MeTV is pretty close...and they air their shows with fullscreen closing credits, a fact they tout on their commercials.

MeTV is pretty close...and they air their shows with fullscreen closing credits, a fact they tout on their commercials.


And Antenna TV

I think they should bring Home Improvement back to Nick at Nite.

http://www.imdb.com/board/bd0000013/flat/213844595?p=1

1) Shorter commercial breaks (So the shows don't start and end at odd times)
2) Present the full opening and closing credits to each show
3) Get rid of the more recent sitcoms (Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens)
4) Bring back the classic TV shows (In Particular Mister Ed, Gilligan's Island,
and The Munsters)
5) Present the Classic TV shows uncut

If TV Land refuses to show the classics anymore (with the exception of a FEW shows), they should consider dedicating one night out of the week just for the classics so that the classic show fans don't get too peed off. For example, let's just say they wanted to use Sunday night...this could be the line-up:

7pm-The Real McCoys
7:30pm-Mister Ed
8pm-Leave It to Beaver
8:30pm-Petticoat Junction
9pm-Green Acres
9:30pm-Hazel
10pm-That Girl
10:30pm-Gilligan's Island



I think everyone could find at least one show on that line-up that they love!

why can't tv land show both classic shows and modern ones how about the 1990s ? how about saved by the bell the wonder years boy meets world or family matters? or hanging with mr cooper or mamma's family itll death is coming on tv land I might watch it I don't think friends should be on tv land keep it on nick at nite I don't think it should be on nick at night I usual watch me t v if I want classics shows I Remember they used to have a commercial said we don't show crap no all that the channel is no good now all tv land is crap

I GOT IDEA SHOW DIFFERNT DEACDS DIFFERNT DA Y LIKE MONDAY 1950S TUESDAYS 1960 WESNDAYS 19670S THURSDAY 1980- AND FRIDAYS 1990S SARTUDDAY 2000'S

The problem that TV Land (and any other channel that airs old network TV programmes) is that what is considered "old" is constantly shifting as the channels' viewing audience is replaced by younger generations (similar to what is happening to oldies radio) and the difficulty in finding any shows they can afford the rights to. Shows that enter or are produced in syndication are easier to afford and come by, and many older shows (mainly pre-1970s shows) are ceasing to exist at all.

Well I just discovered today I no longer have TV land and not sure why because I have watched the channel in the past 7 days


Oh well lol

I our cable system dropped TV LAND, I wouldn't give a ****.
Today at my barbers, they had it on and they were showing ROSEANNE. Just listening to it, I could tell it was shredded to ribbons!

I our cable system dropped TV LAND, I wouldn't give a ****.
Today at my barbers, they had it on and they were showing ROSEANNE. Just listening to it, I could tell it was shredded to ribbons!


It hasn't been on all day long. LOL

TV Land will probably add chico and the man now lol

The problem that TV Land (and any other channel that airs old network TV programmes) is that what is considered "old" is constantly shifting as the channels' viewing audience is replaced by younger generations (similar to what is happening to oldies radio) and the difficulty in finding any shows they can afford the rights to. Shows that enter or are produced in syndication are easier to afford and come by, and many older shows (mainly pre-1970s shows) are ceasing to exist at all.
So, is this the fate that will eventually happen to MeTV? :mad:

I feel like I'm out of date too. lol

So, is this the fate that will eventually happen to MeTV? :mad:



I don't think so because Me-TV just added a show to their schedule from 1974 and TV land recently added a show from 1994

So, is this the fate that will eventually happen to MeTV? :mad:
you can rest assured that ME TV and ANTENNA TV will not change, because they're digital sub-channels.:clap:

They've just added the Brad Garrett sitcom Til Death.

I GOT IDEA SHOW DIFFERNT DEACDS DIFFERNT DA Y LIKE MONDAY 1950S TUESDAYS 1960 WESNDAYS 19670S THURSDAY 1980- AND FRIDAYS 1990S SARTUDDAY 2000'S
Great idea. This will ad more variety.

5 Ways to Fix TV Land/Nick at Nite:

1. Add a Family Sitcom block on Nick at Nite that includes Home Improvement, Full House, Roseanne, My Wife and Kids, and George Lopez this will be every night from 8PM to 12AM.

2. Put Home Improvement in a much decent timeslot on TV Land for ex: 7PM-8PM hour or the 8PM-9PM hour.

3. Friends should air every night on TV Land at 9PM-11PM and they should air Friends in the latenight hours on Nick at Nite.

4. The Western TV shows like Gunsmoke and Bonanza should air from 1PM-4PM Weekdays on TV Land with MASH leading in at 12PM and leading out at 5PM.

5. The Classic sitcom block on TV Land will be Weekday Mornings from 8AM-1PM with Three's Company, I Love Lucy, Dick Van Dyke Show, Andy Griffth Show, and MASH.

And don't fpr get The Patty Duke Show that was my favorite,andor was that Nick at Nite get those to mixed up.

And don't fpr get The Patty Duke Show that was my favorite,andor was that Nick at Nite get those to mixed up.
that was NICK AT NITE.

As long as i have Nick@Nite I am fine because they have my show George Lopez

Roseanne is the only show that is watchable on TV Land which means I have no use for it

For some reason, they feel they have to have original programming now. Not sure why. "Hot in Cleveland" is an "OK" show but I was over it pretty quick. They promote it like it is the only show they air. It is just a knock-off of "The Golden Girls" and prefer that one anyway.

They've just added the Brad Garrett sitcom Til Death.

A show that is neither good, nor anywhere near classic. How that show stayed on the air for as long as it did baffles me.

They've just added the Brad Garrett sitcom Til Death.

Why couldn't they have added 3rd Rock From the Sun instead?

I didn't know 'Til Death was on even long enough for syndication. I just saw it ran 4 years....wow

Why couldn't they have added 3rd Rock From the Sun instead?
That would have been a better one.

Why couldn't they have added 3rd Rock From the Sun instead?
no, that's a funny show but it's too recent.

TV Land Primetime/Latenight
for Summer 2013

Weeknights:
5:00PM MASH
5:30PM MASH
6:00PM MASH
6:30PM MASH
7:00PM Home Improvement
7:30PM Home Improvement
8:00PM Home Improvement (Everybody Loves Raymond Wed.)
8:30PM Home Improvement (Everybody Loves Raymond Wed.)
9:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond (TV Land Originals Wed.)
10:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond (TV Land Originals Wed.)
11:00PM King of Queens
11:30PM King of Queens
12:00AM King of Queens
12:30AM King of Queens
1:00AM Hot in Cleveland (Mon-Thurs) The Golden Girls (Fri)
1:30AM The Exes (Mon-Thurs) The Golden Girls (Fri)
2:00AM The Golden Girls
2:30AM The Golden Girls
3:00AM Friends
3:30AM Friends
4:00AM Friends
4:30AM Friends
5:00AM That 70s Show
5:30AM That 70s Show

Saturday Nights:
5:00PM Home Improvement
5:30PM Home Improvement
6:00PM Home Improvement
6:30PM Home Improvement
7:00PM Home Improvement
7:30PM Home Improvement
8:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
8:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
11:00PM The King of Queens
11:30PM The King of Queens
12:00AM The King of Queens
12:30AM The King of Queens
1:00AM The King of Queens
1:30AM The King of Queens
2:00AM Friends
2:30AM Friends
3:00AM Friends
3:30AM Friends
4:00AM Friends
4:30AM Friends
5:00AM That 70s Show
5:30AM That 70s Show

Sunday Nights:
5:00PM The Golden Girls
5:30PM The Golden Girls
6:00PM The Golden Girls
6:30PM The Golden Girls
7:00PM The Golden Girls
7:30PM The Golden Girls
8:00PM The Golden Girls
8:30PM The Golden Girls
9:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
11:00PM The King of Queens
11:30PM The King of Queens
12:00AM The King of Queens
12:30AM The King of Queens
1:00AM Curb Yuor Enthusiasm
1:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
2:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
2:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
3:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
3:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
4:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
4:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
5:00AM That 70s Show
5:30AM That 70s Show

Note: I hope TV Land will renew "Home Improvement" for Fall 2013 when it airs on The Hallmark Channel in September. Also "Roseanne" should of went on hiatus for awhile or air on Nick at Nite.

New and Improved
TV Land Primetime/Latenight
for Summer 2013

Weeknights:
5:00PM MASH
5:30PM MASH
6:00PM MASH
6:30PM MASH
7:00PM Home Improvement
7:30PM Home Improvement
8:00PM Home Improvement (Everybody Loves Raymond Wed.)
8:30PM Home Improvement (Everybody Loves Raymond Wed.)
9:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond (TV Land Originals Wed.)
10:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond (TV Land Originals Wed.)
11:00PM King of Queens
11:30PM King of Queens
12:00AM King of Queens
12:30AM King of Queens
1:00AM Hot in Cleveland (Mon-Thurs) The Golden Girls (Fri)
1:30AM The Exes (Mon-Thurs) The Golden Girls (Fri)
2:00AM The Golden Girls
2:30AM The Golden Girls
3:00AM Friends
3:30AM Friends
4:00AM Friends
4:30AM Friends
5:00AM That 70s Show
5:30AM That 70s Show

Saturday Nights:
5:00PM Hot in Cleveland
5:30PM The Exes
6:00PM Home Improvement
6:30PM Home Improvement
7:00PM Home Improvement
7:30PM Home Improvement
8:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
8:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
11:00PM The King of Queens
11:30PM The King of Queens
12:00AM The King of Queens
12:30AM The King of Queens
1:00AM The King of Queens
1:30AM The King of Queens
2:00AM Friends
2:30AM Friends
3:00AM Friends
3:30AM Friends
4:00AM Friends
4:30AM Friends
5:00AM That 70s Show
5:30AM That 70s Show

Sunday Nights:
5:00PM The Golden Girls
5:30PM The Golden Girls
6:00PM The Golden Girls
6:30PM The Golden Girls
7:00PM The Golden Girls
7:30PM The Golden Girls
8:00PM The Golden Girls
8:30PM The Golden Girls
9:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
9:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:00PM Everybody Loves Raymond
10:30PM Everybody Loves Raymond
11:00PM The King of Queens
11:30PM The King of Queens
12:00AM The King of Queens
12:30AM The King of Queens
1:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
1:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
2:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
2:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
3:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
3:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
4:00AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
4:30AM Curb Your Enthusiasm
5:00AM That 70s Show
5:30AM That 70s Show

Notes:
1. I hope TV Land will renew "Home Improvement" for Fall 2013 when it airs on The Hallmark Channel in September.

2. Also "Roseanne" should of went on hiatus for awhile or air on Nick at Nite.

3. The TV Land Weekend Movie block is Saturday & Sunday afternoons from 1PM-5PM.

This is a much decent TV Land schedule for Summer 2013!!!

For Fall 2013 TV Land should:

1. Renew Home Improvement and air in the early evening hours for ex: 8PM-9PM.

2. Put The Cosby Show in the 7PM-8PM hour followed by Home Improvement at 8PM.

3. MASH will air a 2 hour block weeknights 5pm-7pm.

no, that's a funny show but it's too recent.

I don't care if it's recent, 3rd Rock has been out of production for years. Friends airs on TV land, and I have no problem with it.

Hate to insult anyone here, but I think the "classic era of television" is overrated in this forum.

I don't care if it's recent, 3rd Rock has been out of production for years. Friends airs on TV land, and I have no problem with it.

Hate to insult anyone here, but I think the "classic era of television" is overrated in this forum.


WHy do you feel that way?

WHy do you feel that way?

Everyone in this forum has to overrate the classic (80s or before) TV shows and favor them instead of the great post-1990s shows.

Everyone in this forum has to overrate the classic (80s or before) TV shows and favor them instead of the great post-1990s shows.



Well you have to admit Television shows before 1990 were a lot better. Not to say that I didn't enjoy TV shows after 1999 because I did which were

The Office
George Lopez
Drew Carey Show
Big Bang Theory

Everyone in this forum has to overrate the classic (80s or before) TV shows and favor them instead of the great post-1990s shows.
That's because the post 90's shows suck.

And why do they suck?

The only recluse for old TV shows nowadays are Me-TV or Antenna TV. What is considered "old" or "classic" is constantly shifting over time. Shows that enter or are produced in syndication are easier to afford and come by and many older shows are ceasing to exist at all.

Old TV shows have their downsides, too. (no ongoing story arcs, etc.)

Why does old have to be better?

And why do they suck?

The only recluse for old TV shows nowadays are Me-TV or Antenna TV. What is considered "old" or "classic" is constantly shifting over time. Shows that enter or are produced in syndication are easier to afford and come by and many older shows are ceasing to exist at all.

Old TV shows have their downsides, too. (no ongoing story arcs, etc.)

Why does old have to be better?


Because anyone with 20/20 vision can see the older shows were better

No offense, but that's something that any fan of shows like "Friends", "ELR", and "Home Improvement" would take personally.

I'm not gonna stop Friends and Everybody Loves Raymond from airing on TV Land.

Because anyone with 20/20 vision can see the older shows were better
that's true, but there are some current shows that are good like C.S.I.

that's true, but there are some current shows that are good like C.S.I.


No one is saying all shows after 2000 stink, just that the ones from before 1980 were better

No one is saying all shows after 2000 stink, just that the ones from before 1980 were better
Also the quantity of good shows were a lot better back then.

I agree with both of you.

Plus, there's something about seeing them in black-and-white that makes them more enjoyable. I'm not saying I don't like the color shows from back then; I like them both.

If I ran TV Land now, the oldest show I would have on that station is The Mary Tyler Moore Show. lol

(In reality, that last aired more than a decade ago.)

http://www.manic-expression.com/apps/blog/show/23610862-random-thoughts-tv-land

Just a quick rant today. This is something that has bothered me for a long time and I have finally decided to rant about it. Not much else to do with my hand messed up from surgery yesterday.

I am sure we all know TV Land. It's a Nick @ Nite spin-off which shows classic sitcoms 24 hours a day. It also shows original programs but that is not my focus here. Now you might imagine knowing how much I love sitcoms that this channel would be like heaven. Actually I hate the channel and avoid it. Why? BECAUSE THEY CHOP UP THE EPISODES AND INSERT COMMERCIALS WHEREVER THEY WANT!

OK, to be fair there are worst things and I do still watch once in awhile. BUT WHY???? Why chop these shows up like this? Now of we all know when a show is syndicated they add ad breaks which trim about a minute. And true it's not unusual for re-runs to include an extra break, take Friends as a good example (when on another station) which always has an extra break in the episode somewhere. But the commercials always come in during transitions so it doesn't take away from the flow of the scene. TV Land will flat out stop a scene to jam ads in! Not only that but they do it twice, while of course keeping the intended break in. Why do we need a million ads on a cable channel? This has the bonus of making the show run long, which is fun when I try to DVR something. Sitcoms are made with intended breaks doing this interupts the flow of the story and ruins it. I figure they assume since these are re-runs no one will care. I do, and hate that channel. All they care about is promoting their original crap and man do they shove it in your face. TV Land was designed to save classic episodes, not descecrate them. I used to love re-runs as a kid, now it depends on the station.

I feel like an old person whining about how "things were in my day", but it just bugs me. TBS has a million ads but the episodes are realtively intact. TV LAND also loves running the shows into each other with no pause at all. making the closing credits an after thought. It is nice to have at least a pause before the next show, even TBS knows that. I realize others do this too and I hate it when anyone does it, it just seemd TV Land is the worst of the lot.

What TMC linked is what I and a lot of people have been saying for years now.

Considering how a number of 1990s network TV shows have already been reran on the channel (like Home Improvement, Everybody Loves Raymond, The King of Queens, and now Walker, Texas Ranger), what would anyone think if The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air were ever reran on TV Land?

Considering how a number of 1990s network TV shows have already been reran on the channel (like Home Improvement, Everybody Loves Raymond, The King of Queens, and now Walker, Texas Ranger), what would anyone think if The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air were ever reran on TV Land?


TV Land does not normally air shows with little kids on them which was not the case with ELR and KOQ

Well, I guess this means I can't defend what former network TV shows (non-current) need to be reran on TV Land, or what would be great for that channel.:( :mad: No wonder why TV Land is worthless, or why people think it is worthless.

I agree TV land has seemed to have gone down hill every year as time goes by. They do have Roseanne and Andy G but other then that don't seem to have lots of the older shows they used to in years past like Mr Ed, Gomer Pyle etc there were several. I have direct TV and don't get this Me tv or Antenna TV I hear people talking about. However As far as TV Land going downhill TV in general has gone downhill. I have probably 200 channels and can hardly find anything to watch. Very upsetting.

I do have a wifi TV though and if you go to You Tube you can find practically any TV show or movie older ones on there and stream it through your tv and if I cant find it on You Tube I can get it on Hulu or Netflix or Amazon I can buy it on there and stream it. If it weren't for those things I would be at a lose most of a time of what to watch.

I'm not adverse to new programming I just have a hard time finding anything that holds my interest. It seems most of the shows out now are of poor quality. Maybe its just me..... I sure can't find a lot.

Recently I have been watching Alfred Hitchcock and the old mary tyler moore shows, hulu only goes to season three, I had to buy season four on amazon and you tube has 5, 6 and 7.

I agree TV land has seemed to have gone down hill every year as time goes by. They do have Roseanne and Andy G but other then that don't seem to have lots of the older shows they used to in years past like Mr Ed, Gomer Pyle etc there were several. I have direct TV and don't get this Me tv or Antenna TV I hear people talking about. However As far as TV Land going downhill TV in general has gone downhill. I have probably 200 channels and can hardly find anything to watch. Very upsetting.

I do have a wifi TV though and if you go to You Tube you can find practically any TV show or movie older ones on there and stream it through your tv and if I cant find it on You Tube I can get it on Hulu or Netflix or Amazon I can buy it on there and stream it. If it weren't for those things I would be at a lose most of a time of what to watch.

I'm not adverse to new programming I just have a hard time finding anything that holds my interest. It seems most of the shows out now are of poor quality. Maybe its just me..... I sure can't find a lot.

Recently I have been watching Alfred Hitchcock and the old mary tyler moore shows, hulu only goes to season three, I had to buy season four on amazon and you tube has 5, 6 and 7.


They have added a old show, Who's the Boss-1984

I'm not adverse to new programming I just have a hard time finding anything that holds my interest. It seems most of the shows out now are of poor quality. Maybe its just me..... I sure can't find a lot.



I'm not that adverse to watching new programs, I'd rather wait until it comes out on DVD because I do lose interest when a five minute commercial break occurs every six minutes or so. A couple of years before I "Cut the Cord". I tried to watch the new version of Battlestar Galactica but couldn't bear watching the insane amount of advertising that was crammed into it :angryfire (I actually forgot what was going on because of all the commercials, it seemed like you couldn't spend 10 minutes before hearing "I'm thinking about a number" or some other lame commercial) :confused: . Finally it made it to DVD, a few months later someone offered the whole series for about $50.00. Needless to say I snatched it up, gotta git 'em while the gittin's good! :D

I remember when TV Land first came on. It was so cool when it actually showed old shows! And it even showed the commercials that were on TV back in the old days!! That was so cool! Thank God for Antenna, METV and Cozi because of what became of TVLAND!!!

I remember when TV Land first came on. It was so cool when it actually showed old shows! And it even showed the commercials that were on TV back in the old days!! That was so cool! Thank God for Antenna, METV and Cozi because of what became of TVLAND!!!


And youtube:wave:

I remember when TV Land first came on. It was so cool when it actually showed old shows! And it even showed the commercials that were on TV back in the old days!! That was so cool! Thank God for Antenna, METV and Cozi because of what became of TVLAND!!!
It took me over 2 years to get TV Land. It was one of the channels I wanted the most. It was good for about a year or two after I got it and now I only watch it for Hot in Cleveland. The rest sucks. Even the classic shows are littered with commercials and most of the time they're shown off the clock. I don't know how anyone can enjoy it.

I'm not going to lie, I wish I had TV Land right now because they are showing a marathon of

Three's Company and The Cosby Show until 8pm


DAMM lol

I remember when TV Land first came on. It was so cool when it actually showed old shows! And it even showed the commercials that were on TV back in the old days!! That was so cool! Thank God for Antenna, METV and Cozi because of what became of TVLAND!!!
and we can rest assure that Antenna TV and ME TV won't go the way of Nick at Nite and TV Land because they're not cable channels, they're
re digital sub-channels so they're not subject to the same regulations as cable.

and we can rest assure that Antenna TV and ME TV won't go the way of Nick at Nite and TV Land because they're not cable channels, they're
re digital sub-channels so they're not subject to the same regulations as cable.


Have not seen any signs yet but if one of them adds King of Queen then we know they will be headed in that direction lol

Have not seen any signs yet but if one of them adds King of Queen then we know they will be headed in that direction lolor FRIENDS or SIENFELD

but really Sol I sincerely doubt that what I said isn't true.

or FRIENDS or SIENFELD

but really Sol I sincerely doubt that what I said isn't true.


I think the oldest show Antenna TV had was the Nanny, that was 1993

HUH? Antenna TV only started about 3 years ago!:confused:

HUH? Antenna TV only started about 3 years ago!:confused:


Yeah how long did you think it was around? Do you think we would have been trashing TV LAND all these years if Antenna TV was around?:lol: :lol:

I think the oldest show Antenna TV had was the Nanny, that was 1993

I think you mean "youngest show that Antenna TV had".

I think you mean "youngest show that Antenna TV had".


Oldest as compared to all the classic shows they have

The Nanny is about the only show on Antenna TV I don't like. MWC is 1990's too but that show is funny. lol

Oldest as compared to all the classic shows they have

No, a show that premiered in 1993 is the youngest as in "most recently premiered", not "how long it has been reran on the Antenna TV channel".

No, a show that premiered in 1993 is the youngest as in "most recently premiered", not "how long it has been reran on the Antenna TV channel".


You right:lol:

2 episodes of "Gunsmoke" on TVL begin at 11:19 AM and run until 1:40 PM.
The current TV "hour" is about 42 minutes. So best case we get 84 minutes of show in 141 minute time slots. Just shy of a full hour of commercials. I DVR it and even skipping the ads it is annoying they run so long. I can't imagine watching it while it airs, I'd forget what episode I was watching.

I wonder sometimes if show segments are shorter than the commercial breaks around them.

Same thing happened to me when the new version of Battlestar Galactica first ran a few years ago. You had six minutes of show, then a piercing "I'm Thinking about a Number" announced the beginning of five minutes of commercials. :angryfire Yes, I really forgot what I was watching and I gave up watching it due to all the breaks. Within three years I decided to "Cut the Cord" and among the DVDs that made it to the Bargain Bin was, among others the "New BSG". I will never return to Pay TV, IMO they've priced themselves off the market.

tv land loves gunsmoke, that sh*t been on the air since 2000

tv land loves gunsmoke, that sh*t been on the air since 2000

Whether or not it is sh*t is subjective to one's individual opinion. Obviously it is popular to stay on the network for 20 years and be in constant reruns.

They are so slow to release it on DVD partly because CBS like to release each season at a high price and split into 2 volumes. They are greedy and dvd will be a thing of the past before they can release 20 seasons especially at 2 volumes for many seasons.

Even the dvd's are only up to half way through the series, so people watch it on TV or hunt for episodes online. I'd wager most regular viewers are recording it rather than spending that long to see 40-42 minutes of show in way longer than an hour time slot.

Whether or not it is sh*t is subjective to one's individual opinion. Obviously it is popular to stay on the network for 20 years and be in constant reruns.

They are so slow to release it on DVD partly because CBS like to release each season at a high price and split into 2 volumes. They are greedy and dvd will be a thing of the past before they can release 20 seasons especially at 2 volumes for many seasons.

Even the dvd's are only up to half way through the series, so people watch it on TV or hunt for episodes online. I'd wager most regular viewers are recording it rather than spending that long to see 40-42 minutes of show in way longer than an hour time slot.


It lasted for 20 seasons because

it was no Cable
it was no Internet

I never cared for Gunsmoke and I'm not too crazy about Bonanza either. Those two have been on too long and I just find them boring. But that's just my opinion. Some people may really enjoy them.

I never cared for Gunsmoke and I'm not too crazy about Bonanza either. Those two have been on too long and I just find them boring. But that's just my opinion. Some people may really enjoy them.



I would rather have a threesome with two fat ugly women than watch one second of Gunsmoke or Bonanza LOL

well, you two are entitled to your opinions but I LOVE the old westerns.

well, you two are entitled to your opinions but I LOVE the old westerns.
Everybody likes different things, nothing really "sucks" because enough people like it. It just sucks to some people but if it is good enough to air that long somebody liked it. The thing is they can run even a show you love too much. There should be balance unless a network is identified for one style of programs. The subject is TVLand and I can't imagine myself watching it for long because of the added commercial time .

The idea that Gunsmoke ran for 20 years because of no cable and no internet is a bit off kilter to me because plenty of shows in that era got canceled every season and everything is of its time. Gunsmoke ended before cable or internet also and I'm sure stations and networks that air it do so because it is successful for their business.

I Love Lucy was around when there was no cable or internet as was All In The Family, etc. Those shows thrived in the environment they existed in at the time and in their marketplace they were the top shows for many years.

I wondered that too, why TVLand adds an extra 5 minutes or more into their timeslots and they have an annoying habit of not sticking to even numbered time airings, for example instead of showings like 12:00, 12:30, 1:00 they screw it up with 12:16, 12:48, 1:21.

Bonanza has well written characters and stories that keeps it on the air.

I wondered that too, why TVLand adds an extra 5 minutes or more into their timeslots and they have an annoying habit of not sticking to even numbered time airings, for example instead of showings like 12:00, 12:30, 1:00 they screw it up with 12:16, 12:48, 1:21.
20 minutes of commercials per hour isn't enough, so they've gone "off the clock" to cram in more commercials. :angryfire

TV Land is just unwatchable anymore.

Quit making new shows! That is a start. If your show is on basic cable, it sucks because it has been shopped to everywhere and no one wants it. One big exception maybe is "Hot in Cleveland" maybe, but it would be cancelled the first year if it were on the Big Four networks.

I think the Big Four networks should have classic shows from their websites. Best NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox shows on the internet, maybe for a fee. But I think not a lot of these shows are owned by the networks. For example, Star Trek is owned by CBS, even though it was on NBC. There could be multiple networks from old TV shows, on the internet, screw it, every popular show gets their own website. Like Bewitched? Dial (not a real website) www.bewitched.com (unless this is a real webiste) and watched Bewitched for a fee. Would make the distributor Billions. Get off the Copyright pot and just do it.

TV Land is just unwatchable anymore.

Just about every channel is unwatchable. :angryfire

TV Land is just unwatchable anymore.


TV land can air whatever they want since we have digital TV now lol

Looking at TVLand's schedule they air 2 "hour" episodes (which means around 40-42 minutes each) in 141 minute time slots. So there are 57 minutes of commercial shown during 2 hour long episodes of a show crammed into an extended time slot.

I just can't hang in with that.

If you want a good classic TV channel, MeTV is yer best bet.

I quit watching TV Land a while ago. Their new shows are pure filth. They edited their shows so they can squeeze in 20 commercials in one break. Ridiculous. That's why I have Me-Tv, Decades,Insp,and others!

Only thing I watch on TV Land is The Facts Of Life and King Of Queens. I wish I could get Me-TV or Antenna TV, but you can't get those on Dish.

The editing of the shows should stop but it wont.. They can change the logo, graphics and whatnot, the channel is still the same.

If Tv Land stuck to its original intention, maybe it wouldn't be in the dumps, like it is now. But, this is happening with all Viacom owned networks.

I wish I could get Me-TV or Antenna TV, but you can't get those on Dish.

It's frustrating, isn't it? The only time I watch TV Land anymore is when there's at least 3 or 4 other things on at the same time that I want to watch. That way I can flip channels and avoid all of the commercials.

We want the classic TV shows back on TV Land.

Why couldn't they have added 3rd Rock From the Sun instead?

Because it sucks, that's why

For example, Star Trek is owned by CBS, even though it was on NBC.

Which, as I recall saying before, boils down to the fact that it was originally from Desilu, and then from Paramount under Gulf+Western. Many other series that were from Paramount under Gulf+Western are also CBS properties now; examples include:

Happy Days
Laverne & Shirley
Mork & Mindy
Taxi
Cheers
MacGyver

...and so on and so forth.

One thing I can't bring myself to understand is why people keep on complaining about TvLand. TvLand went to the dump years ago. I thought you'd move on by now. I quit complaining about it and I just started watching MeTv And Antenna TV instead. Within a few months of viewing those channels, I have completely forgotten about Tv Land

One thing I can't bring myself to understand is why people keep on complaining about TvLand. TvLand went to the dump years ago. I thought you'd move on by now. I quit complaining about it and I just started watching MeTv And Antenna TV instead. Within a few months of viewing those channels, I have completely forgotten about Tv Land

Not only did I forget it I removed TV land from my service:lol:

One thing I can't bring myself to understand is why people keep on complaining about TvLand. TvLand went to the dump years ago. I thought you'd move on by now. I quit complaining about it and I just started watching MeTv And Antenna TV instead. Within a few months of viewing those channels, I have completely forgotten about Tv Land

TV Land is hard to forget about for those of us who aren't able to get MeTV or Antenna TV.

One thing I can't bring myself to understand is why people keep on complaining about TvLand. TvLand went to the dump years ago. I thought you'd move on by now. I quit complaining about it and I just started watching MeTv And Antenna TV instead. Within a few months of viewing those channels, I have completely forgotten about Tv Land

If you moved on, then why resurrect a year old thread about TVLand?

Why is this thread being brought up again for tvland? It already went downhill since many years ago!

Why is this thread being brought up again for tvland? It already went downhill since many years ago!


Because i replied to james28 question

You want to know what else is unlikely to ever be added to the TV Land schedule in the future? More drama series.

TV Land nowadays has so much emphasis on sitcoms that Gunsmoke and Bonanza are literally the only two drama series that channel reruns today (and for the past few years). I wonder when was the last time TV Land re-ran a drama series that isn't named "Gunsmoke" or "Bonanza"?

^It was probably "Boston Legal". I know they had it a couple years ago.

Walker Texas Ranger used to be in tvland early 2014 until spring 2015. It didnt last long

Also George Lopez this time started august is not airing weekdays primetime, but airing in saturday evenings blocks. More raymond, andy griffith, gunsmoke. The schedule continues to be inconsistent as it gets harder to get updates with frequent schedule changes. What if nick at nite does same thing in future??

Boston Legal, Walker, Texas Ranger... has TV Land re-ran any other non-Gunsmoke/Bonanza dramas since 2010, or is that it?

Also, I feel TV Land should have re-ran The Practice (which Boston Legal spun-off from).

Gunsmoke and Bonanza is too much. I like Andy Griffith but give Gunsmoke and Bonanza a rest.

More drama

Why is everybody complaining about TV Land? I mean, I don't like TV Land, but if you don't like it, DON'T watch it.

^We complain because we know it USED to be an awesome channel and it's sad how it's completely went to pot.

Why is everybody complaining about TV Land? I mean, I don't like TV Land, but if you don't like it, DON'T watch it.
nothing wrong with it, ok? they were expressing opinions for tvland, just because youre annoyed with it, u dont have to post it

^^He could have just said instead, "If you quit watching TV Land, let that channel's ratings fall to new lows."

TVLand has just pulled George Lopez off the weekend lineup for more Reba. Nick@Nite still has George Lopez!

Sun Aug 28 9pm-11:45pm TVLand will air MTV Video Music Awards. Along with Spike, VH1, MTV, CMT, BET, Comedy, MTV2, Logo, Centric. Nick@Nite doesn't have those, but I have a feeling Nick@Nite will make last minute changes and simulcast this show!

Mon Sept 5 10PM-11:30PM TVLand will simulcast Comedy Central Roast - Rob Lowe

So, all these stations are going to simulcast a show from network that distanced themselves away from music videos 15 years ago. Makes sense.

^^He could have just said instead, "If you quit watching TV Land, let that channel's ratings fall to new lows."

Why don't you quit harassing me or I'll report you?

Why don't you quit harassing me or I'll report you?
It is not his fault! Why are you blaming him for?

It is not his fault! Why are you blaming him for?

For insulting and mocking me. The "He" in that sentence is me.

For insulting and mocking me. The "He" in that sentence is me.
That was two months ago and yet you're bringing it up?

That was two months ago and yet you're bringing it up?

Oh never mind. Doesn't matter now. Might as well not bring it up and let it go.

I think TV Land should reacquire Home Improvement to the lineup

Oh never mind. Doesn't matter now. Might as well not bring it up and let it go.
OK thats fine, but if it still bothers you, why don't you just PM James28 if you think he is insulting you? But in my opinion I think he is just joking around

OK thats fine, but if it still bothers you, why don't you just PM James28 if you think he is insulting you? But in my opinion I think he is just joking around

I did and he/she got really up in arms about it.

I did and he/she got really up in arms about it.
What does it mean up in arms about it?? Was that a shrug or was he surprised and gasped as if he didn't want to apologize for he insulting you?

What does it mean up in arms about it?? Was that a shrug or was he surprised and gasped as if he didn't want to apologize for he insulting you?



The definition of up in arms is:

(idiom) protest strongly about something

Example Sentences:

The hockey fans were up in arms when their team got an unfair penalty in the last few minutes of the game.

A: How are you doing?
B: I’m up in arms!
A: Why?
B: I tried to get a ticket to go see my favourite artist, but the concert is sold out.

:) :wave:

OK thats fine, but if it still bothers you, why don't you just PM James28 if you think he is insulting you? But in my opinion I think he is just joking around

I thought that Svenfan's initial "Don't like TV Land, don't watch it" statement was intimidating to the people who do not like TV Land and have gotten bored with it and do not want to watch it anymore. I also thought Svenfan could have said something that's not as intimidating to the people who do not like TV Land, like my statement about TV Land's ratings can be affected by people avoiding TV Land.

I thought that Svenfan's initial "Don't like TV Land, don't watch it" statement was intimidating to the people who do not like TV Land and have gotten bored with it and do not want to watch it anymore. I also thought Svenfan could have said something that's not as intimidating to the people who do not like TV Land, like my statement about TV Land's ratings can be affected by people avoiding TV Land.

You were making fun of me and everyone else!

^^No, I was not; Having a dispute with you is a waste of my time and energy, so I'm not going to bother doing so.

^^No, I was not; Having a dispute with you is a waste of my time and energy, so I'm not going to bother doing so.

I wasn't trying to have a dispute. Just stating the facts, that is all.

Hey Anybody upset with TVLand, go to their website and voice your opinion and maybe somebody at the network will see it and do something about it. Other people have voiced their opinion.

Hey Anybody upset with TVLand, go to their website and voice your opinion and maybe somebody at the network will see it and do something about it. Other people have voiced their opinion.
TVLand has a survey for those when providing feedback, but nothing says about opinions but..
https://www.facebook.com/BoycottTVLand/

Three options facebook TVLand has some viewers giving opinions about overall TVLand and gets more complaints about butchering shows, showing too much Reba, etc. Twitter has those too. But I don't know how TVLand company will respond for this.. That goes same with Nick@Nite.

TV Land hasn't been good for a decade now. The only highlights since 2000 was Hot in Cleveland, acquiring those Screen Gem shows, and a few special event marathons where we got to see some rarely seen shows. Random movies, off-the-block schedules, original reality shows, endless back-to-back shows that are on DVD, and programming from the 2000s have all led to the decline of TV Land.

They jumped the shark ever since they got rid of TV Land's Ultimate Fan Search IMO.

Hey Anybody upset with TVLand, go to their website and voice your opinion and maybe somebody at the network will see it and do something about it. Other people have voiced their opinion.

Many people tried that and it didn't work. People started flooding TVLand's message boards with complaints way back in 2004 when the network started its slide. They were starting to air reality shows, Chasing Farrah, shows too new for the network, inane Top Ten shows with D and F list comedians and "celebrities" making stupid comments, etc.

Their board was dominated by complaint threads and rightfully so. However, TVLand ignored it all and went on with their "going younger" makeover. Andy Griffith was getting 1 million viewers a night at the 9pm slot. TVLand was so intent on making the network "younger" that they still pulled the show from that slot and replaced it with modern, stupid "reality" nonsense that didn't come close to those numbers. After the failure of many reality shows, the network became the King of Queens/Raymond/Roseanne network with their stupid original sitcoms and millennial "dramas" mixed in.

Eventually, they stopped moderating the boards at all as they had become nothing more than a complaint board. Without moderation and TVLand's intentional abandonment of security software, spambots took over the board and it became nothing more than a combo of spambots and people agreeing with each other on how sorry the network had become. They also ignored viewer complaint/request emails and calls to their switchboard. I left at that point-the board and the network.

Years later, I checked the network and found a morning of Three's Company reruns airing in ridiculous 36 and 42-minute timeslots and yet the episodes were still edited!! I've yet to even turn on the network again, nor will I ever.

Years later, I checked the network and found a morning of Three's Company reruns airing in ridiculous 36 and 42-minute timeslots and yet the episodes were still edited!! I've yet to even turn on the network again, nor will I ever.

I'm feeling the same way about GSN-- they got rid of the Jim Perry Card Sharks that was in the 10 A.M. slot and replaced it with Whammy!. I personally feel that GSN is something that I will seldom turn on again, if ever, based on that.

I'm feeling the same way about GSN-- they got rid of the Jim Perry Card Sharks that was in the 10 A.M. slot and replaced it with Whammy!. I personally feel that GSN is something that I will seldom turn on again, if ever, based on that.

I agree. A friend of mine used to watch GSN on a regular basis and I liked to tune in now and then myself. I call them FFN now-Family Feud Network-due to all the Steve Harvey FF reruns that dominate their schedule.

I remember watching both Card Sharks and Sale of the Century. He just passed away one year ago.

And Antenna TV

Not really anymore. They go to commercial right in the middle of shows and split screen the credits!

Antenna TV is annoying. I hate the credit crunch and the odd commercial breaks.

Antenna TV is annoying. I hate the credit crunch and the odd commercial breaks.

Me too dammit! As for TV Land, the reality no pun intended is that a network is a business and businesses have one goal and one goal alone to make money. If the crap makes the network money then that's what needs to be done.

True but I think networks force there vision and presentation of it down our throats whether we like it or not. They should listen to there audience.

True but I think networks force there vision and presentation of it down our throats whether we like it or not. They should listen to there audience.

Seconded.

Antenna TV is annoying. I hate the credit crunch and the odd commercial breaks.

Same here. And that is exactly why I stopped watching Antenna TV.

the tv land hate is strong with these folks

TV land decided recently to bring Mash back to its schedule. I wonder if this is an attempt to bring old viewers back to its channel

TV land decided recently to bring Mash back to its schedule. I wonder if this is an attempt to bring old viewers back to its channel

If it is then they're gonna have to do a lot better than that.

True but I think networks force there vision and presentation of it down our throats whether we like it or not. They should listen to there audience.

Third!

But TV Land is owned by a corporation...Viacom! During the 1990's, shows and stations were doing okay but by 2000...everything went corporate! If it made money, make it a cash-cow! If it didn't make money, get rid of it!

If it is then they're gonna have to do a lot better than that.
TRUE!!!

They're goona have to do a hell of a lot more, like return to the way they were in the late 90s-early 200s; but the chances of that ever happening are the same as a snowballs chance in hell, unfortunately.

I agree. You need more than MASH to fix TVLand.

When Nick At Nite announced the debut of TV Land in the 90's people anticipated the chance to see their favorite classic sitcoms and the chance to see Nick At Nite in the daytime hours without having to wait for Nick At Nite to start at night. And so when TV Land was launched in 1995 fans rejoiced the chance at seeing classic sitcoms and other classic shows in a channel that everyone could watch. But in the 2000's you could really tell that TV Land was going in a new direction by adding sitcoms from the 90's that were popular and with this new image you could also tell that TV Land was gaining a new audience by adding 90's sitcoms. Another habit that TV Land did was they would add a sitcom to the lineup then it was removed and replaced with another sitcom later on. Take for example TV Land aired Benson reruns for a short time then replaced them with other sitcoms and the same thing was repeated when TV Land added Newsradio to the lineup. But if you look at TV Land now you'll notice that they show Friends The King Of Queens Everybody Loves Raymond and Younger more often than any other sitcoms and based on how popular Friends reruns have become on TV Land I can guarantee that the next two sitcoms that will added to TV Land will be Frasier and Seinfeld in the future. Another thing that made me surprised that TV Land did was add Steve Harvey's Family Feud and I found it shocking that TV Land did this because this indeed was a new direction for TV Land to add a game show block. But TV Land should bring back some of the classic sitcoms and return to it's original roots and add classic commercials to TV Land again because that was one thing that made TV Land fun to watch when it was first launched and if TV Land could return to it's roots it would help them gain a new audience of young and old alike
Bestie

Another thing TV Land never did was program the same sitcom for hours at a time. This is lame, but not exclusive to TV Land (see Hallmark, TBS, etc.). So you can watch a Raymond ep. and tune in 3 weeks later and see the same ep.

So, on TV Land, there are very few actual programs. Raymond, King Of Queens, TAGS, MASH, and some stupid westerns and fill-ins on overnight and weekends, some original trash I can't keep up with, and that's it. If they go in any other direction in the future, it will probably only get worse, not better.

The network has been going downhill for years. I think "Chasing Farrah" started the trend of mediocre programming. I'm still holding out hope for a Retro TV affiliate.

Well imo it jumped the shark after they stopped doing the TV Land Ultimate Fan Search

TV Land is trash, and so is LOGO. Ugh. What a horrible channel that shows 18-minute episodes of ALICE and ONE DAY AT A TIME. Once and for all, they do NOT(Logo) have a great editing system! They are a hackjob! I wish some people would STOP supporting Logo's butchering of classic shows! I mean they cut out scenes that are pivotal to the plot! I tried watching an episode of ALL IN THE FAMILY that was around 17 1/2 minutes! Ridiculous!

TV Land is trash, and so is LOGO. Ugh. What a horrible channel that shows 18-minute episodes of ALICE and ONE DAY AT A TIME. Once and for all, they do NOT(Logo) have a great editing system! They are a hackjob! I wish some people would STOP supporting Logo's butchering of classic shows! I mean they cut out scenes that are pivotal to the plot! I tried watching an episode of ALL IN THE FAMILY that was around 17 1/2 minutes! Ridiculous!

Same thing most with Nick@Nite only much worser

Well, Nick at Nite, TV Land, and Logo are all owned by Viacom and all Viacom channels are bad. I hope Viacom goes out of business one day.

It was announced today that TV Land's original series Younger is going to move to Paramount Network for its sixth season. This leaves Teachers as the only original scripted series on TV Land.

https://deadline.com/2018/09/younger-moves-tv-land-paramount-network-emily-in-paris-series-darren-star-dramedy-night-1202456930/

If Teachers ends up moving to Paramount Network as well, then is this a sign that Viacom is going to shut down TV Land in the future?

Anyways, Two and a Half Men is currently airing in tvland started early July, exact same day Mom losing rights of tvland with move to N@N. Mom began airing on tvland on Sept 18, 2017.

https://deadline.com/2018/09/the-goldbergs-tv-land-syndication-adam-f-goldberg-wendi-mclendon-covy-1202466085/

Goldbergs will have launch marathon on Sept 23, and joins TVLand lineup airing one hour 9PM, and late night hr..

Why recent shows? They really should be going back to airing more older stuff.

TV Land can go to you know where. They aren't committed to the classics anymore so I've wiped them off my radar. :rolleyes:

i checked on the schedule, 9PM hour used to be Goldbergs, but as I noticed now, 9PM hour now has another hour of Everybody Loves Raymond. 2AM hour remains as Goldbergs. Not a good sign.

I also noticed Roseanne returned to TVLand as of last Saturday, airing only in marathon from morning to afternoon. Roseanne also returned to CMT as of last week replacing Full House. Full House is not showing in any tv networks

is tvland making any new changes lately?

Goldbergs will have new years eve marathon according to blog sitcomsonline

https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/overview.html?programSeriesId=SH02986609&tmsId=EP029866090001&aid=gapzap
I noticed on zap2it: TVLand is airing/simulcasting BET premiere of American Soul as of tonight at 9pm. B HER is also simulcasting

https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/overview.html?programSeriesId=SH02986609&tmsId=EP029866090001&aid=gapzap
I noticed on zap2it: TVLand is airing/simulcasting BET premiere of American Soul as of tonight at 9pm. B HER is also simulcasting

That sounds right since ignorant bigoted TVLand refuses to acknowledge the existence of...

tv land & nick at night are not family friendly any more!! neither is free forum!! I don't watch nick at night any more!! i was watching it for the goldbergs; but they moved them to tv land! i don't think friends or the office should be on nick at night!! i wish they would get ride of george lopez show! they played that show to death!! ! i did watch nick at night when they showed hanging with mr cooper!! then they moved it to 6:00 am!! then they got ride of it!! how about tv land 2 or nick at night 2? then they could show classic repeats of classic tv shows!! i heard some one said tv land is going back showing more classic programing!! i believe it when i see it!! if i watch nick at night i mostly watch teen nick or nick toons!!

i did watch nick at night when they showed hanging with mr cooper!! then they moved it to 6:00 am!! then they got ride of it!!

Actually Hangin with Mr. Cooper when aired on Nick@Nite in early 2014, it aired at 6AM hour slot from its start. It didn't move to any other timeslot, except there was one time N@N has had late night winter marathon from mid or late Jan 2014 to mid Mar 2014, though Hangin with Mr. Cooper was included but that was only for one day only.
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https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/overview.html?programSeriesId=SH03114024&tmsId=EP031140240004&aid=gapzap
Also on the other subject, I noticed TVLand simulcast Comedy Central original: The Other Two

i think it did air in 2014 but they recently brought it back!! its been several years ago!! but some times i would watched it but they moved it to 6:00 am!but hanging with mr cooper doesn't come on nick at night any more!!

i think it did air in 2014 but they recently brought it back!! its been several years ago!! but some times i would watched it but they moved it to 6:00 am!but hanging with mr cooper doesn't come on nick at night any more!!

If You mean "they recently brought it back" I think you referring to NickMom.
NickMom did air that show around late fall 2014 only for short time

I noticed tvland.com has new site design, I think it's similar like nick.com website design for looking at schedules.

And Teachers series finale will be Tues Mar 19

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When Nick At Nite announced the debut of TV Land in the 90's people anticipated the chance to see their favorite classic sitcoms and the chance to see Nick At Nite in the daytime hours without having to wait for Nick At Nite to start at night. And so when TV Land was launched in 1995 fans rejoiced the chance at seeing classic sitcoms and other classic shows in a channel that everyone could watch. But in the 2000's you could really tell that TV Land was going in a new direction by adding sitcoms from the 90's that were popular and with this new image you could also tell that TV Land was gaining a new audience by adding 90's sitcoms. Another habit that TV Land did was they would add a sitcom to the lineup then it was removed and replaced with another sitcom later on. Take for example TV Land aired Benson reruns for a short time then replaced them with other sitcoms and the same thing was repeated when TV Land added Newsradio to the lineup. But if you look at TV Land now you'll notice that they show Friends The King Of Queens Everybody Loves Raymond and Younger more often than any other sitcoms and based on how popular Friends reruns have become on TV Land I can guarantee that the next two sitcoms that will added to TV Land will be Frasier and Seinfeld in the future. Another thing that made me surprised that TV Land did was add Steve Harvey's Family Feud and I found it shocking that TV Land did this because this indeed was a new direction for TV Land to add a game show block. But TV Land should bring back some of the classic sitcoms and return to it's original roots and add classic commercials to TV Land again because that was one thing that made TV Land fun to watch when it was first launched and if TV Land could return to it's roots it would help them gain a new audience of young and old alike
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I wish TV Land did a game show block back in the day like the old USA Network did. They could have aired shows like The $128,000 Question (with a pre-Jeopardy Alex Trebek), Split Second 1986, Anything for Money, Wipeout (not the reality show on ABC but the short-lived show with Peter Tomarken, and Make Me Laugh 1979. In fact, I am surprised that MML was not even shown on the wonders of TV Land given the many comedians who got their start on there.

TVLand was actually launched in 1996, not 1995.

Currently now the shows are airing: The Kings of Queens, Everybody Loves Raymond, Mom, The Goldbergs, Andy Griffith Show, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, M*A*S*H., Roseanne, Mike & Molly, Seinfeld, The New Adventures of Old Christine, The Golden Girls, Two and a Half Men.

The Neighborhood briefly aired in TVLand in late 2022, but for short time.

Friends used to air on TVLand, but that was long time ago, and it didn't last long.

Many of the second and third wave of cable networks will be folded over the next few years, I believe TV Land will be one of them. It is projected that by 2027 only 38% of the homes in the U.S. will be cable TV customers. That would place the number of homes with cable at about the same number as 1989. Survivors may include, TBS, TNT some scaled back version of ESPN, local channels and diginets, Nickelodeon, CNN, FOX News, MSNBC a couple of business channels, USA, A&E a few others with rest disappearing. I think basic cable can survive at a $40-$50 price point for individuals who have little or no interest in streaming services.

The big divorce will be sports programming. Expensive to produce, representing a disproportionate share of the cable bill, regional sports networks presence on basic cable tiers will be dramatically reduced if not disappear altogether, they have to for cable to remain viable.

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Why recent shows? They really should be going back to airing more older stuff.Indeed so,they are crapola!!

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Many of the second and third wave of cable networks will be folded over the next few years, I believe TV Land will be one of them. It is projected that by 2027 only 38% of the homes in the U.S. will be cable TV customers. That would place the number of homes with cable at about the same number as 1989. Survivors may include, TBS, TNT some scaled back version of ESPN, local channels and diginets, Nickelodeon, CNN, FOX News, MSNBC a couple of business channels, USA, A&E a few others with rest disappearing. I think basic cable can survive at a $40-$50 price point for individuals who have little or no interest in streaming services.

The big divorce will be sports programming. Expensive to produce, representing a disproportionate share of the cable bill, regional sports networks presence on basic cable tiers will be dramatically reduced if not disappear altogether, they have to for cable to remain viable.

Paramount is already doing the slow burn by killing off Teen Nick to a slow boil and putting all of it's former content on it's Pluto Tv Nick Totally Teen channel. Paramount is also selling off VH1 and BET so don't expect those channels to ever be relevant ever again. USA and TNT will most likely still be around due to WWE and NBA. CNN and Fox news never going away. Stuff like History channel and Fuse will be gone no doubt.

Many of the second and third wave of cable networks will be folded over the next few years, I believe TV Land will be one of them. It is projected that by 2027 only 38% of the homes in the U.S. will be cable TV customers. That would place the number of homes with cable at about the same number as 1989. Survivors may include, TBS, TNT some scaled back version of ESPN, local channels and diginets, Nickelodeon, CNN, FOX News, MSNBC a couple of business channels, USA, A&E a few others with rest disappearing. I think basic cable can survive at a $40-$50 price point for individuals who have little or no interest in streaming services.

The big divorce will be sports programming. Expensive to produce, representing a disproportionate share of the cable bill, regional sports networks presence on basic cable tiers will be dramatically reduced if not disappear altogether, they have to for cable to remain viable.TVLand was in the top 20 most watched of secondary channels for the month of June, it's not going anywhere.
https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=441632
Now little known Viacom channels like TeenNick would be more likely to disappear.

TVLand was in the top 20 most watched of secondary channels for the month of June, it's not going anywhere.
https://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=441632
Now little known Viacom channels like TeenNick would be more likely to disappear.

The post said in 2027, not 2023. TV Land isn’t ending this year and gets bad ratings and has dropped dramatically in just four years. Where do you think it will be in the next four years?

My prediction is TV Land gets the boot at some point and Pluto TV Sitcoms or whatever it’s called becomes the replacement along with Paramount+. Viacom is more into streaming than cable anyway. Once the broadcast licenses expire, TV Land won’t be back. They’ve invested significantly more in Pluto than cable.

Many of the second and third wave of cable networks will be folded over the next few years, I believe TV Land will be one of them. It is projected that by 2027 only 38% of the homes in the U.S. will be cable TV customers. That would place the number of homes with cable at about the same number as 1989. Survivors may include, TBS, TNT some scaled back version of ESPN, local channels and diginets, Nickelodeon, CNN, FOX News, MSNBC a couple of business channels, USA, A&E a few others with rest disappearing. I think basic cable can survive at a $40-$50 price point for individuals who have little or no interest in streaming services.

The big divorce will be sports programming. Expensive to produce, representing a disproportionate share of the cable bill, regional sports networks presence on basic cable tiers will be dramatically reduced if not disappear altogether, they have to for cable to remain viable.

Viacom has both Pluto TV and Paramount+, which, just in the last year, Pluto has pretty much exploded in viewership and is very much going to become, or close to, the new cable, but free.

This thread has been dormant for a couple of months, but some additional information concerning at risk cable networks appeared in the Hollywood Reporter, I'll summarize:

Owner Network

FOX FOX Deportes

Paramount BET & MTV spin off channels, , Nicktoons, LOGO,POP, Nick Jr.

Warner/Discovery American Heroes Channel, Cooking Channel, CNN International,
Boomerang, Science

Disney Disney Jr., Freeform, FXM, FXX, National Geographic Mundo,
National Geographic Wild

NBC Universal E!, Syfy, Oxygen, CNBC World, Universal Kids, Olympic Channel

Wells Fargo analyst Steve Cahill estimate based on cable companies taking action similar to Charter.

In July less than 30% of the viewing cable subscribers did were of cable stations. As I wrote earlier in this thread, we're going to see cable stations starting to disappear at an accelerated rate in the next few years as cable companies battle to stay alive. Cable companies will return to their original purpose working as an antenna service for over the air stations. Only 20 to 30 cable stations will survive, the regional sports networks will be apps offered on streaming platforms, so will the live sporting events version of ESPN. The price point is going to have to be about $35 dollars a month for a basic subscription.

This thread has been dormant for a couple of months, but some additional information concerning at risk cable networks appeared in the Hollywood Reporter, I'll summarize:

Owner Network

FOX FOX Deportes

Paramount BET & MTV spin off channels, , Nicktoons, LOGO,POP, Nick Jr.

Warner/Discovery American Heroes Channel, Cooking Channel, CNN International,
Boomerang, Science

Disney Disney Jr., Freeform, FXM, FXX, National Geographic Mundo,
National Geographic Wild

NBC Universal E!, Syfy, Oxygen, CNBC World, Universal Kids, Olympic Channel

Wells Fargo analyst Steve Cahill estimate based on cable companies taking action similar to Charter.

In July less than 30% of the viewing cable subscribers did were of cable stations. As I wrote earlier in this thread, we're going to see cable stations starting to disappear at an accelerated rate in the next few years as cable companies battle to stay alive. Cable companies will return to their original purpose working as an antenna service for over the air stations. Only 20 to 30 cable stations will survive, the regional sports networks will be apps offered on streaming platforms, so will the live sporting events version of ESPN. The price point is going to have to be about $35 dollars a month for a basic subscription.


Don't forget they expanded to internet service. If it was not for the internet we would not have streaming.

Paramount is already doing the slow burn by killing off Teen Nick to a slow boil and putting all of it's former content on it's Pluto Tv Nick Totally Teen channel. Paramount is also selling off VH1 and BET so don't expect those channels to ever be relevant ever again. USA and TNT will most likely still be around due to WWE and NBA. CNN and Fox news never going away. Stuff like History channel and Fuse will be gone no doubt.


I think the deal to se!l VH1 and BET the deal fell through..