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SageSlowdive 08-12-2010, 09:22 PM Can anyone name some people interviewed on the show that was, how you say, weird or didn't seem to be quite all there? (please don't count the guilty liars i.e. Paul Pollis, that Gibson scumbag who murdered his kid and lied about it.)
I'll start it off:
1. Old lady who saw Craig Reinhard on a train.
MegtheEgg86 08-12-2010, 11:16 PM Good thread idea. Both of my nominees come from the Kurt McFall segment:
- The SCA woman who was interviewed in period costume, whose first name I believe was Hillary (it's been a while since I've seen the segment). Perhaps I'm being close-minded, but I don't really see how giving an interview on national television (the main feature of which is your assertion that your association is not connected to a youth's death) while in a knight get-up is going to lend to your credibility.
- Gabriel "Carrhotic" Carillo. Certainly not because of his paganism, but his mere demeanor. I don't think he was responsible in any fashion. I think he's something of a Hugh Harlan--"weird but not a weirdo."
Blair Adams' mother deserves an honorable mention I think.
RobinW 08-13-2010, 12:16 AM Jule Caylor. He may be a guilty liar, but regardless of whether he's guilty or innocent of murder, there's no denying that he is one WEIRD dude. No matter what they've done, I don't imagine Paul Pollis, Larry Gibson or Chad Noe would write eight-page letters to Wendy about their salad-making abilities :crazy: .
There definitely seemed to be someone off about Bonnie Haim's father. It just seemed utterly bizarre to me that everyone else in the world (including Michael Haim's own family!) believed his son-in-law was responsible for Bonnie's disappearance, but this guy would be the one jumping to his defense! I always wondered if he had serious issues with his daughter or if he was one of those guys who believed that wife-beating was justified.
I'd also say that all the victims of the Mystery Hum seemed kinda weird (especially that interviewee whom I initially had trouble determining if they were a man or a woman!), though I'm sure having to deal with that all the time probably had a serious psychological effect on them.
Gelatinous Goo 08-13-2010, 12:29 AM Jule hands down. That would have been my first pick, as well as that of many others.
Adam Hecht's brother and mother take the cake for weird, however. Runner-up would be the toupeed father of the one young man who demonstrated what position his son was laying on the very bed on which he was shot (sorry, was it Digman?).
For the past couple of weeks I have wished that UM had profiled the Alvin Ridley case (Ringgold, GA). Bill Kurtis did a splendid job with this one. It begs to ask how much better the case would have been if RS narrated it. Then again, it wasn't really an unsolved mystery.
TracyLynnS 08-13-2010, 02:06 AM Oh yeah, good ole Jule Caylor and how much better his life is now that he's rid of his wife, moved out of state, and got a new job.
All the other suspicious husbands like Paul "I like a clean house" Pollis, Mark Nichol and his macabre amusement at the fact that the locals were checking the dump for his wife's dismembered body, Chad Noe and, among other things, his fling with a teen right there in the hospital where his wife was suffering from a debilitating illness.
Franklin Delano Floyd with his comments about it being no one's business where his missing "son" Michael is (presumed murdered by Floyd).
Cynthia Anderson's dad came across as weird. He seemed happy or smug or something... IMO, making inappropriate comments considering the horrifying fact that his daughter had been missing without a trace for about 8 years at the time of his interview.
That Carrotic guy that was mentioned. Not the right thread to discuss this, but I'm actually wondering if he was involved with Kurt romantically (or wanted to be) and the kid wanted to break off the relationship. The abandoned car scene seemed staged.... I think there were beer bottles strewn around but no bottle caps and no alcohol was found in Kurt's system? Kurt was 17, had been to a lot of sleepovers at (30 something year old) Carrotic's house, and on the day he died, announced that he was restless at 3 am so was going for a walk. Carrotic's demeanor in the interview reminded me a lot of the others who have that same "I got away with murder" attitude. I'm sure you've seen the type. Their egos are so huge, they usually act as their own lawyer when they have to go to trial because they think they're so much smarter than the judge and attorneys.
Tony Alamo. Been a while since I've seen that segment but what a creep! Cult leader, child abuser, stole his wife's body from her grave, etc. Weird, crazy, criminal, evil, everything seems wrong with that guy.
"Gabby", who agreed only to be interviewed incognito, regarding the murdered body found in a footlocker he'd left behind with a friend. Conveniently couldn't remember what state or decade he'd gained possession of the foot locker. Side stepped questions and said stuff like "I didn't do that guy" meaning he knew that this poor unidentified person had been murdered, but denied involvement. (And how did he know the victim was male? Only bones were found and the coroner had to determine the gender). He was way too defensive, evasive, and flippant about the fact that he'd been in possession of a murdered body for years.
All of the overzealous prosecutors (Patti Stallings case, etc) who still stuck by their assertations of the defendant's guilt when it was obvious they were innocent. And all the gov't spokesmen who were thrown in front of the camera to unconvincingly deny whenever the gov't was accused of being involved in something suspicious such as the Vittorio Peak missing gold treasure. Their interviews are so pathetic they would probably have been better off refusing to participate in the show.
crystaldawn 08-13-2010, 06:56 AM I kind of got the impression that the woman who claims to have spotted Keri Lynn Nixon well after she was murdered was a little off.
RobinW 08-13-2010, 09:55 AM Ooh, I can't believe I forgot to mention both the mothers in the Paul and Charlotte Pollis case :crazy: .
When Charlotte's mother claimed she liked to call her daughter 10-14 times a day, she nearly did the impossible and actually made me feel some sympathy for Paul since I'm sure having her as a mother-in-law was a nightmare!
Paul's mother may be a perfectly normal woman most of the time, but her contived, melodramatic reaction to the accusations that she helped her son cover up a murder seriously creeped me out!
sdb4884 08-13-2010, 11:34 AM Franklin Delano Floyd was a sicko.
Jule I agree he was an oddball to say the least, can't believe he said that things are pretty good now that my wife has disappeared :)
unsolved88 08-13-2010, 08:14 PM Doreen Marfeo's sister Lorna Dobson. She had kind of a half-smile on her face the whole time as if trying not to laugh, and just seemed somewhat ditzy.
Blair Adams' mother seemed a little odd, but her weird enunciation of some of her words sounded as though she could have been hearing impaired and therefore couldn't help how she sounded.
Zlatko 08-14-2010, 07:37 PM Bob Bean comes to mind. He seemed like an odd ball with a strange smile to boot. Something seemed off about him.
unsolved88 08-14-2010, 08:02 PM Andre Jones' girlfriend Tanisha Love. She said the word "truck" multiple times in the first sentences she spoke in her interview and from what I could see of her, she didn't look like she really went out of her way to get dressed up for said interview.
Apostapler 08-15-2010, 10:33 AM Jackie Littlejohn- the Albuquerque psychic interviewed for the St. James Hotel segment. Cool lady but man was she out there.
justins5256 08-15-2010, 05:41 PM Good thread idea. Both of my nominees come from the Kurt McFall segment:
- The SCA woman who was interviewed in period costume, whose first name I believe was Hillary (it's been a while since I've seen the segment). Perhaps I'm being close-minded, but I don't really see how giving an interview on national television (the main feature of which is your assertion that your association is not connected to a youth's death) while in a knight get-up is going to lend to your credibility.
Interesting side story I once read about this...allegedly UM taped a lengthy interview with Hilary Powers at her office, without all the crazy attire, but chose not to air any of it. Instead, they opted to show the interview with her from the parking lot of her in costume because it seemed more "demonic". I know the SCA was peeved for a long time because of this and Stack's narration implying that their group was related to Satanism.
If you listen closely, he doesn't out and out say that either group in this segment is Satanic, but I guess it was close enough or inferred and that ruffled some feathers.
MegtheEgg86 08-15-2010, 06:08 PM Interesting side story I once read about this...allegedly UM taped a lengthy interview with Hilary Powers at her office, without all the crazy attire, but chose not to air any of it. Instead, they opted to show the interview with her from the parking lot of her in costume because it seemed more "demonic". I know the SCA was peeved for a long time because of this and Stack's narration implying that their group was related to Satanism.
If you listen closely, he doesn't out and out say that either group in this segment is Satanic, but I guess it was close enough or inferred and that ruffled some feathers.
Oh, wow, I had no idea. So it seems UM made a deliberate decision to attempt to undercut her credibility. Nice one. :mad:
Kind of OT, but isn't the SCA just a group of people who are really, really into roleplaying, Renaissance/fantasy kind of stuff? Like they dress up and have fairs and whatnot? How that can be readily construed as "Satanism" I have no idea. I could maybe see how ignorant people could misunderstand Carrillo's group, but the SCA? Please.
justins5256 08-15-2010, 06:50 PM Oh, wow, I had no idea. So it seems UM made a deliberate decision to attempt to undercut her credibility. Nice one. :mad:
Kind of OT, but isn't the SCA just a group of people who are really, really into roleplaying, Renaissance/fantasy kind of stuff? Like they dress up and have fairs and whatnot? How that can be readily construed as "Satanism" I have no idea. I could maybe see how ignorant people could misunderstand Carrillo's group, but the SCA? Please.
To be fair, I should point out that I don't know if the story I relayed about Hilary Powers is actually true. However, assuming it is (I don't think it's a stretch to believe it), I thought that was a classless move by UM. The producers probably figured it would make good TV. Unfortunately, the need for "good TV" and sensationalism is paramount, even on UM.
Truthfully, I don't know much about the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism) aside from the segment and the few things I've read while researching the McFall case, but I think what you described sounds about right.
That being said, I could understand the SCA being pissed. I mean, **I** didn't see a connection to Satanism (I didn't believe Carradoc's group was Satanic either), but I've seen the segment probably 50 times over the years and thought about it a lot, done outside research etc. The casual viewer who catches it once or twice (especially back in early 1988 at the height of "Satanic Panic") could probably make that connection more readily. Stack even says from the beginning that it was believed that McFall was involved with a "Satanic cult" - a statement he doesn't directly relate to either group shown on the program, but the statement will undoubtedly resonate in the viewer's mind throughout the segment. Basically, I think the dots are clearly there.
alfiechat 08-16-2010, 12:10 PM I am actually a member of the SCA and we basically try to recreate different aspects of life in the middle ages, fighting being one of the things. i know a lot of people that were pretty peeved by this segment, myself being one of them after I joined. But if it is true about filming a segment with Hilary not in her garb, but in the office, that really just smells of sensationalism to me.
VikingsGal 08-16-2010, 02:59 PM I would go for the guy with the horrible toupee who recreated his son's bedroom/crime scene.
I felt bad for him as he was very frustrated with the fact that his son's death was ruled a suicide not a homicide but dang I could NOT take my eyes off that toupee.
soilentgreen 08-16-2010, 05:00 PM Jule Caylor has to be one of the creepiest interviewees ever. Attempting to sound emotionally flat, while there's spooky subtexts to his statements.
Stuart Heaton -- a disturbing example of non involved mannerisms, in contrast with the brutality of the murder he committed.
There definitely seemed to be someone off about Bonnie Haim's father. It just seemed utterly bizarre to me that everyone else in the world (including Michael Haim's own family!) believed his son-in-law was responsible for Bonnie's disappearance, but this guy would be the one jumping to his defense! I always wondered if he had serious issues with his daughter or if he was one of those guys who believed that wife-beating was justified.
I've though that Haim's father could have been in extreme denial about the circumstances of her disappearance. But it is possible that the behavior he was displaying on UM stemmed from less than a healthy relationship with his daughter (an interesting thought, considering who she chose to marry.)
Bob Bean and his tidings of ill will. He knew he didn't murder the guy, but he had a big grin on his face because he figured his ex or the brother did it.
And I agree that Carrhotic was weird (I don't believe he had anything to do with McFall's death), but in a 'creepy older dude with young people hanging around his house' kind of way, not any cult shenanigans.
justins5256 08-16-2010, 08:39 PM Stuart Heaton -- a disturbing example of non involved mannerisms, in contrast with the brutality of the murder he committed.
did you think he was guilty?
SageSlowdive 08-16-2010, 08:53 PM Maybe I need to update my knowledge on Franklin Delano Floyd...
If I remember correctly, I've always thought he gave little Michael to someone to take care of until he got out of prison.
TracyLynnS 08-19-2010, 06:35 AM From the stuart heaton segment, it was the prosecutor who creeped me out.
(Which is unusual, because you all know how much I like to throw the book at
'em.)
From what I saw in that episode, I'm thinking "innocent" for heaton, and a
really bad cya job from that prosecutor. He seemed to be a lot like the
one in the patty stallings case, only not quite as bright at that guy. :rolleyes:
soilentgreen 08-19-2010, 12:48 PM did you think he was guilty?
Yes -- the slashes and wounds on his hands weren't something you'd get in routine roofing/carpentry work, at least not to that degree, and he should have been able to recall exactly how/when they occurred. Then he was unable to provide a credible alibi for the time a girl was stabbed to death nearby or prove that his vehicle was at another location.
Add to that a DNA test that contradicted his statements of not knowing the girl, when he was friends with her brother and (from what I recall) he had previously had sex with her older sister. Not by itself a complete indicator of guilt (he could have just been the village bicycle, as there was another person known to the victim with a similar vehicle) but combined with the other discrepancies strongly leaned towards it. The wounds were just as important as the initial DNA.
The more recent DNA test just established how much of a compartmentalizer and manipulator he is.
nicoge21 08-22-2010, 07:07 PM The old woman in the "Clarence Roberts" case. She said something like "It was like turning a light on and turning a light off" and you can hear people in the background laughing. :lol:
Tighthead 08-22-2010, 08:43 PM I would go for the guy with the horrible toupee who recreated his son's bedroom/crime scene.
I felt bad for him as he was very frustrated with the fact that his son's death was ruled a suicide not a homicide but dang I could NOT take my eyes off that toupee.
Jeffrey Digman I think was the name of the deceased son.
The dad also used the word mock-up about 7 times.
Babydollz24 05-26-2011, 01:06 AM Shirley from the Dana Satterfield episode.
WishfulDreamer 05-26-2011, 01:27 AM The serial killer in the diabolical minds episode.
The woman who gestured to show the sea creature coming out of the water. Sorry to be mean but...:D
Again, sorry to be mean, but Lathan-you know what I'm sayin'- Young.
I know it was just a clip, but I concur with Tony Alamo. Yikes.
Larry Costine's ex-wife. I know it could have been edited out, but she showed no remorse and only spite. Harsh!
Doreen Marfeo's sister. I was very weirded out by her laughing when talking about Stephen's possible guilt. What on Earth?
boechsner 05-26-2011, 02:18 AM The woman who gestured to show the sea creature coming out of the water. Sorry to be mean but...:D
Yes! Up and Down! She sounds like she could be an aerobics instructor!
TheCars1986 05-26-2011, 10:38 AM Everyone interviewed in the "Mystery Hum" segment.
McBevis 05-26-2011, 01:54 PM Oh yeah, good ole Jule Caylor and how much better his life is now that he's rid of his wife, moved out of state, and got a new job.
All the other suspicious husbands like Paul "I like a clean house" Pollis, Mark Nichol and his macabre amusement at the fact that the locals were checking the dump for his wife's dismembered body, Chad Noe and, among other things, his fling with a teen right there in the hospital where his wife was suffering from a debilitating illness.
Franklin Delano Floyd with his comments about it being no one's business where his missing "son" Michael is (presumed murdered by Floyd).
Cynthia Anderson's dad came across as weird. He seemed happy or smug or something... IMO, making inappropriate comments considering the horrifying fact that his daughter had been missing without a trace for about 8 years at the time of his interview.
That Carrotic guy that was mentioned. Not the right thread to discuss this, but I'm actually wondering if he was involved with Kurt romantically (or wanted to be) and the kid wanted to break off the relationship. The abandoned car scene seemed staged.... I think there were beer bottles strewn around but no bottle caps and no alcohol was found in Kurt's system? Kurt was 17, had been to a lot of sleepovers at (30 something year old) Carrotic's house, and on the day he died, announced that he was restless at 3 am so was going for a walk. Carrotic's demeanor in the interview reminded me a lot of the others who have that same "I got away with murder" attitude. I'm sure you've seen the type. Their egos are so huge, they usually act as their own lawyer when they have to go to trial because they think they're so much smarter than the judge and attorneys.
Tony Alamo. Been a while since I've seen that segment but what a creep! Cult leader, child abuser, stole his wife's body from her grave, etc. Weird, crazy, criminal, evil, everything seems wrong with that guy.
"Gabby", who agreed only to be interviewed incognito, regarding the murdered body found in a footlocker he'd left behind with a friend. Conveniently couldn't remember what state or decade he'd gained possession of the foot locker. Side stepped questions and said stuff like "I didn't do that guy" meaning he knew that this poor unidentified person had been murdered, but denied involvement. (And how did he know the victim was male? Only bones were found and the coroner had to determine the gender). He was way too defensive, evasive, and flippant about the fact that he'd been in possession of a murdered body for years.
All of the overzealous prosecutors (Patti Stallings case, etc) who still stuck by their assertations of the defendant's guilt when it was obvious they were innocent. And all the gov't spokesmen who were thrown in front of the camera to unconvincingly deny whenever the gov't was accused of being involved in something suspicious such as the Vittorio Peak missing gold treasure. Their interviews are so pathetic they would probably have been better off refusing to participate in the show.
Yeah, those closed-minded prosecutors do seem to know how to make one's blood boil. One that I'm particularly NOT fond of was the one in the Larry Race segment. It is simply rude to say "this is not an appropriate case for Unsolved Mysteries because it simply is NOT an unsolved mystery" directly in front of a UM interviewer. Well, at least he eventually got it thrown back in his face.
McBevis 05-26-2011, 02:49 PM Also, somebody who creeped me out quite a bit was the guy interviewed in the Red Mercury segment who invented the neutron bomb. With his bulgy eyes and gravelly voice, he certainly did come across as something of a mad scientist.
MegtheEgg86 05-26-2011, 03:16 PM Shirley from the Dana Satterfield episode.
I LOVED her! "You know how someone look when they crazy?!?" :lol:
flytrapp 05-26-2011, 04:27 PM I thought Lisa Penz was a total weirdo! Same with Moniko Rizzo's husband.
SageSlowdive 05-29-2011, 03:26 AM I thought Lisa Penz was a total weirdo! Same with Moniko Rizzo's husband.
You wouldn't say that if you were betrayed and humiliated by a woman you hired and stole money from your company - NOT TO MENTION stole your SSN and personal info and was possibly using your identification at the time of the airing.
chacha6581 05-29-2011, 06:14 PM The guy that was interviewed in the Tami Lynn Leppert segment. I think his name was Wing or something. I thought it was a woman posing as a man.
chacha6581 05-29-2011, 06:15 PM I LOVED her! "You know how someone look when they crazy?!?" :lol:
HAHAHA!!! Loved it!!!!
MissFit29 05-29-2011, 06:28 PM How about the trucker in the Gail Delano segment, describing some of the women that usually try to hitch a ride? Wait, that's not weird....that was kind of funny. "You see how they dress, you know how they go."
I thought the Manns were weird interviewees. I felt like they faked the whole thing, and the 16 year old wife could barely keep a straight face.
Mark Nichols was a weird interview for sure.
MegtheEgg86 05-29-2011, 09:17 PM How about the trucker in the Gail Delano segment, describing some of the women that usually try to hitch a ride? Wait, that's not weird....that was kind of funny. "You see how they dress, you know how they go."
I specifically remember him referring to them as "truck stop queens". :lol:
It wasn't weird per se, but I always thought the overweight, lisping investigator in the Rebecca Young case was funny, especially when he said things like "in the vicinity of the Twistee Treat."
Gelatinous Goo 05-29-2011, 10:30 PM "South of the Twistee Treat."! He also pronounced object "objick".
What about the suspect in Rebecca's case? Twirling around, lifting his shirt, all the while repeating, "I'm clean!"?:)
ididn'tdoit 05-29-2011, 11:15 PM Nobody's mentioned Paul Pollis yet?? :cool:
I also thought Tim McClure came off as somewhat strange, because of his hairdo and the fact he seemed real nervous and guilty.
bugnpinky 05-30-2011, 01:29 AM The Wackers.
Apostapler 05-30-2011, 06:55 AM That lady that was interviewed in the segment about Brian Deucker (that kid that fell from the plane).
"I looked at my husband and I says, they's somethin fell outta that plane!"
MegtheEgg86 05-30-2011, 10:33 AM "South of the Twistee Treat."! He also pronounced object "objick".
Bahahahaha I had forgotten about "objick". :lol:
What about the suspect in Rebecca's case? Twirling around, lifting his shirt, all the while repeating, "I'm clean!"?:)
I loved the way he bolted out of that car, too. :)
UMFaninMD 05-30-2011, 12:02 PM Don Dixon from the "Burned Evidence" segment.
Laurie Gebbell from the "Two Mary Murders" segment. I think it was her voice---she sounded like she was doped up to high heaven.
Gelatinous Goo 05-30-2011, 12:17 PM Bahahahaha I had forgotten about "objick". :lol:
I loved the way he bolted out of that car, too. :)
"Detective K Car" was very quotable. I'll have to re-watch the segment, as something hilariously memorable came out of his mouth every two seconds!
TheCars1986 05-30-2011, 12:49 PM Everyone in the Sammy Wheeler segment.
UMFaninMD 05-30-2011, 10:59 PM Everyone in the Sammy Wheeler segment.
I think that was one of the most surreal segments...it was like Unsolved Mysteries Meets Jerry Springer.
Zlatko 05-31-2011, 12:00 AM Judy Groezinger seemed like an odd ball. She acted like she was spaced out on drugs.
MegtheEgg86 05-31-2011, 08:43 AM Judy Groezinger seemed like an odd ball. She acted like she was spaced out on drugs.
I agree. Disconnected is the word that comes to mind.
MegtheEgg86 05-31-2011, 08:53 AM Kevin Poulsen's friend Sean Randol. She seemed weird, but wasn't a weirdo. :)
egswanso 05-31-2011, 09:12 AM Kevin Poulsen's friend Sean Randol. She seemed weird, but wasn't a weirdo. :)
Totally off the subject, but did anyone else hear Kevin Poulsen interviewed on NPR (regarding an internet security issue, not anything UM related)?
Hambone2421 05-31-2011, 12:36 PM Everyone in the Sammy Wheeler segment.
LMAO! Agreed. After viewing that segment I knew it was a fact that there family "don't do the incest thing".
RobinW 06-02-2011, 11:25 AM I'd also like to cast a vote for Lyonne Plaskett, the woman who claimed that a tiny UFO flew into her bedroom one night and cured her cancer. Looking into her eyes, I do think she genuinely believes that really happened. I mean, I'm glad she was able to beat cancer, but there's definitely something really off about her.
Corkys-Place 06-06-2011, 06:56 AM I'd also like to cast a vote for Lyonne Plaskett, the woman who claimed that a tiny UFO flew into her bedroom one night and cured her cancer. Looking into her eyes, I do think she genuinely believes that really happened. I mean, I'm glad she was able to beat cancer, but there's definitely something really off about her.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's wonderful Lyonne was able to beat Cancer. But that story would have to be one of the most ridiculous cases Unsolved Mysteries has ever covered! :mumble:
CowboyStudTied 06-10-2011, 12:39 PM the interview where the guys wife dissapears and he says a whole sentence I only remember "... I did not kill my wife" like he did'nt care ... IDK the case.. sorry :(
TheCars1986 06-10-2011, 12:58 PM the interview where the guys wife dissapears and he says a whole sentence I only remember "... I did not kill my wife" like he did'nt care ... IDK the case.. sorry :(
Sounds like Mark Nichols to me.
justins5256 06-10-2011, 12:59 PM Crystal Spencer's friend seemed like she was on some good drugs.
The single weirdest interviewee on UM was one of Bo Tanner's wives. She kept saying that she wanted to find him and still loved him, even after she found out he was a bigamist who kept faking his own death. He even staged a harassment campaign against them (going as far as to burn down their church).
RobinW 06-29-2011, 10:39 AM The single weirdest interviewee on UM was one of Bo Tanner's wives. She kept saying that she wanted to find him and still loved him, even after she found out he was a bigamist who kept faking his own death. He even staged a harassment campaign against them (going as far as to burn down their church).
Yes, I just could not understand why this case was even profiled on UM to begin with. I mean, Bo Tanner was obviously a scumbag, but the only official charge against him was one count of bigamy and I believe the statutes of limitation expired by the time they eventually found him. It appears the only reason this made it onto the show was because Bo's wife REALLY wanted him back and was naive enough to believe they could still make the relationship work. I just think there were other wanted fugitives and missing persons that were far more deserving of airtime on UM than Bo Tanner.
Yes, I just could not understand why this case was even profiled on UM to begin with. I mean, Bo Tanner was obviously a scumbag, but the only official charge against him was one count of bigamy and I believe the statutes of limitation expired by the time they eventually found him. It appears the only reason this made it onto the show was because Bo's wife REALLY wanted him back and was naive enough to believe they could still make the relationship work. I just think there were other wanted fugitives and missing persons that were far more deserving of airtime on UM than Bo Tanner.
You are right - I did a search of this forum and another member contacted the sheriff's office there in MT to find out charges were never filed because of the the statutes of limitation. They even gave her Bo's real name. I totally agree that giving this case UM airtime was a waste, even though I actually searched for it
Zlatko 06-30-2011, 01:44 AM Paul Pollis deserves a nomination. Umm...I know he needs to explain why he's innocent but geez, it's as if wife's disappearance isn't even a big deal. What's even more odd is that he complained that people weren't backing him up regarding his innocence. I guess his innocence is more important than his wife's well being. :rolleyes:
He could at least try to act more innocent if you know what I mean...
Paul Pollis deserves a nomination. Umm...I know he needs to explain why he's innocent but geez, it's as if wife's disappearance isn't even a big deal. What's even more odd is that he complained that people weren't backing him up regarding his innocence. I guess his innocence is more important than his wife's well being. :rolleyes:
He could at least try to act more innocent if you know what I mean...
Just don't ask him for keys to the shed. Paul Pollis needs to ink a deal with Lysol.
rerungirl 06-30-2011, 12:52 PM I'm reading this thread on my lunch hour and have been laughing so hard (and crying at the same time) one of my co-workers just came to the break room and asked me if I'm okay. Thanks for all the great posts!
Not necessarity "weird" but definitely memorable: the lady from the Audrey Moat segment who kept talking about Mr. Hotar.
TheCars1986 06-30-2011, 01:05 PM Not necessarity "weird" but definitely memorable: the lady from the Audrey Moat segment who kept talking about Mr. Hotar.
Love the way she kept pronouncing "HOE-TART".
Crystal Spencer's friend seemed like she was on some good drugs.
Agreed Justin. I hopped on here to cast my vote for her friend. Such a weirdo!!! And Lathan young...but someone already mentioned him too. haha
yellowVWchase 06-30-2011, 03:58 PM Judy Groezinger seemed like an odd ball. She acted like she was spaced out on drugs.
First person I thought of when I saw this thread.
She and Larry Gibson should get married...
2trackmind 07-10-2011, 11:22 AM I found Steve Page a bit out there, as well as his wife's father.
"IT'S A BUDDY DEAL! YOU KNOW WHAT A BUDDY DEAL IS????" :lol:
TheCars1986 07-10-2011, 04:56 PM I've always thought Norman Ladner's mother was a bit out there.
Hambone2421 07-11-2011, 10:49 AM I think we should have a vote to determine who is the weirdest interviewee of all time, Don Dixon or Bob Bean.
TheCars1986 07-11-2011, 03:51 PM I think we should have a vote to determine who is the weirdest interviewee of all time, Don Dixon or Bob Bean.
Tough call but I'd have to go with Bobby Bean.
Zlatko 07-11-2011, 04:08 PM Anton Kline struck me as being a bit strange. He seemed devoid of any emotion. Pretty robotic...
WishfulDreamer 07-12-2011, 03:31 AM Sorry to be mean, but why would the DALE associates go "right back" with Liz Charmichael after everything that had happened without hesitation?!
Judy G. definitely sounded like she was on something.
The Hechts (well, the sister not so much) but the whispery voiced brother and fake accent mom.
I actually like Danny Wheeler, but Bob Bean, what a smirky class act!
Hambone2421 07-12-2011, 10:06 AM I actually like Danny Wheeler, but Bob Bean, what a smirky class act!
Oh I think everyone liked Danny Wheeler, even Michael Jordan!!
I was just watching the Nancy Manni murder UM segment, and I didn't care much for Billy Mesmer the "poet" (I believe they cleared him as a suspect). Sounded like his behavior towards Nancy was quite obsessive.
xxxxmattxxxx69 07-22-2011, 04:39 PM John Burns seemed on something when he was captured before he died. If you count him as an interviewee. He wasn't up there with Bob Bean or Don Dixon but certainly an interesting character.
WishfulDreamer 07-22-2011, 10:42 PM John Burns seemed on something when he was captured before he died. If you count him as an interviewee. He wasn't up there with Bob Bean or Don Dixon but certainly an interesting character.
Want to hear something scary? He had the same exact voice as my AP Economics teacher in high school!
mdl1981 07-23-2011, 11:52 AM Oh I think everyone liked Danny Wheeler, even Michael Jordan!!
I have to admit...I always hoped that when he was interviewed after a game in which the Bulls won, Jordan would dedicate the win to his "#1 fan Danny Wheeler".
SageSlowdive 10-08-2011, 09:46 PM After watching the case again, the co-workers of Dale Kersetter are extremely odd, not to mention RUDE.
scc1222 10-08-2011, 11:01 PM Bob Bean comes to mind. He seemed like an odd ball with a strange smile to boot. Something seemed off about him.
indeed,he had such shifty eyes in the interview!!
scc1222 10-08-2011, 11:06 PM I nominate Sneha Philips hubby as one of the weirdo's..I'm not sure he had anything to do w her disappaearance,(though I could be wrong),but I certainly didn't get the feeling he was telling the whole truth,and I think he lied about getting up and checking the voicemail messages.There is also the fact he wouldn't let the reporter see all of the PI's notes and file.He's hiding something,and you would think he would want the case left open,not the false closure that they gave her,not even being sure she died in the 911 attacks or not.
Lakeboy 10-10-2011, 08:09 PM After watching the case again, the co-workers of Dale Kersetter are extremely odd, not to mention RUDE.
What about Kersetter's son??? My father will be back in 7 years when the statue of limitations expire. I always wondered why he said that.
TracyLynnS 10-10-2011, 09:54 PM What about Kersetter's son??? My father will be back in 7 years when the statue of limitations expire. I always wondered why he said that.
Hope I get this right....
Many of us thought that was odd, and indicated that the son knew his dad had run off with the stolen goods and would resurface when it was safe.
Then, Dale's daughter (moneypenny) posted on here and sort of answered that. The son was only about 16 years old at the time of that interview. Many of us thought he was well into his 20s.
Moneypenny stated something like his comments were really just coming from a hurt boy who was hoping for the best and not wanting to believe that his father had been killed.
Found it. Here's the thread, starting with post #20
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=181799&page=2
Lakeboy 10-10-2011, 10:18 PM Hope I get this right....
Many of us thought that was odd, and indicated that the son knew his dad had run off with the stolen goods and would resurface when it was safe.
Then, Dale's daughter (moneypenny) posted on here and sort of answered that. The son was only about 16 years old at the time of that interview. Many of us thought he was well into his 20s.
Moneypenny stated something like his comments were really just coming from a hurt boy who was hoping for the best and not wanting to believe that his father had been killed.
Found it. Here's the thread, starting with post #20
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=181799&page=2
Thank you for sending that. I have always wondered what he meant. I still think it is an odd comment. I would just say I hoped my dad was still alive.
SageSlowdive 10-10-2011, 11:02 PM Hope I get this right....
Many of us thought that was odd, and indicated that the son knew his dad had run off with the stolen goods and would resurface when it was safe.
Then, Dale's daughter (moneypenny) posted on here and sort of answered that. The son was only about 16 years old at the time of that interview. Many of us thought he was well into his 20s.
Moneypenny stated something like his comments were really just coming from a hurt boy who was hoping for the best and not wanting to believe that his father had been killed.
Found it. Here's the thread, starting with post #20
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=181799&page=2
Yeah, I always thought that was more of a "trying to deal with it" comment.
TheCars1986 10-11-2011, 09:21 AM After watching the case again, the co-workers of Dale Kersetter are extremely odd, not to mention RUDE.
I used to think so too, but we have to remember that not much time had passed between the actual crime and Kerstetter's disappearance. And if there was in fact a shot of "Kerstetter meeting the masked man at the back of the plan", the Corning workers had every right to suspect Dale. Some of their comments about him being "a marginal employee", to then turn around and say he saved lives and thousands of dollars in potential property damage is quite contradictory.
Princess Lola 10-12-2011, 03:54 PM Paul Ferrel who was accused of murdering Cathy Ford. Why on earth would you write a letter supposedly from the victim to her family and them send money for damage to a truck she had taken if you where innocent? He said he panicked when he was interviewed but personally, I think that just shows guilt.
TheCars1986 12-19-2011, 05:05 PM Paul Ferrel who was accused of murdering Cathy Ford. Why on earth would you write a letter supposedly from the victim to her family and them send money for damage to a truck she had taken if you where innocent? He said he panicked when he was interviewed but personally, I think that just shows guilt.
Not to mention the weirdo would call book stores and have the women read sexually suggestive material to him over the phone (he was posing as a doctor or someone in the medical field). His explanation? He couldn't afford a credit card and was doing it as a "phone sex thing". Not to mention his explanation for the blood found in his trailer, something about "Someone could have knicked themselves shaving!" He definitely was not only one of the weirdest, but he was also one of the most obviously guilty final appellants that UM ever profiled.
WishfulDreamer 01-18-2012, 08:43 PM Doreen Marfeo's sister. Giggling through the interview? I mean, they could have excised more emotional stuff, but what they did show was just weird.
owenrock 01-18-2012, 10:10 PM I think 3 of my favorites to sit and laugh at cause its so obvious they are guilty is Leonard Rizzo, Don Dixon and Mike Morris
Ok maybe not obviously guilty, but they all give weird interviews that make you think they are guilty
scc1222 01-19-2012, 09:02 AM My vote goes to Bob Bean, and to Danny Wheeler as well.You just can't beat their comments...they would have made such a wonderful family...not a 'CO-IN-SEE-DENCE' if you ask me. :) :) :)
Hops3098 01-19-2012, 02:00 PM I think 3 of my favorites to sit and laugh at cause its so obvious they are guilty is Leonard Rizzo, Don Dixon and Mike Morris
Ok maybe not obviously guilty, but they all give weird interviews that make you think they are guilty
I definitely agree about Leonard Rizzo. On the Bizarre Murders set, there is a commentary track for the Rizzo segment which was pretty interesting. One of the people making comments was from the crew that interviewed him at the house, and I remember him talking about how creepy the guy was and how it took them awhile to find a place to shoot the interview, because the guy had bashed holes in most of the walls. Definitely worth a listen in my opinion.
RedBasket 01-19-2012, 03:05 PM My vote goes to Bob Bean, and to Danny Wheeler as well.You just can't beat their comments...they would have made such a wonderful family...not a 'CO-IN-SEE-DENCE' if you ask me. :) :) :)
Okay, I am not allowed to read this thread at work (hey I am on my lunch break!) as I laugh out loud at these comments.
The whole Bob Bean/Sammy Wheeler episode is legendary as it is just so many shades of awesome and white trashiness.
Dale Kerstetter's episode was very odd as well....people were very off and I think Dale is dead and some people are very nervous on camera and it makes them look "off."
owenrock 01-20-2012, 01:58 AM ok I just rewatched the sammy wheeler episode....this is one of the ones that make me laugh. The whole trio of Danny Wheeler, Pam Snead and Bob Bean should be the 1st entrants into the Unsolved Mysteries Hall Of Fame. I love all the finger pointing and white trashiness. I nominate the segment for Best Segment of the series
scc1222 01-20-2012, 06:02 AM ok I just rewatched the sammy wheeler episode....this is one of the ones that make me laugh. The whole trio of Danny Wheeler, Pam Snead and Bob Bean should be the 1st entrants into the Unsolved Mysteries Hall Of Fame. I love all the finger pointing and white trashiness. I nominate the segment for Best Segment of the series
I second that!! :D
scc1222 01-20-2012, 06:05 AM I also found the fertility statues segment funny.Everyone acted like any woman who touched those things was bound to get pregnant.hmm ok...let's see what would happen if a 90 YO touched them..or perhaps a nun...LOL.
WishfulDreamer 09-24-2012, 12:39 AM [QUOTE=2trackmind]I found Steve Page a bit out there[QUOTE]
''the killer is clearly not steve page!''- why did he call himself by his full name? :crazy:
Linda Sherman's husband smiling and calling her by her full name was also really weird. When he says he had nothing to do with it, its almost a singsong voice. yes it could be because hed been interviewed and asked about it a lot, but seriously man? your wife was recently discovered dead after all these years- even if you were fighting show some compassion or empathy especially for your daughter who has to deal with it! I'm on the fence about his guilt, but it's possible.
Todd Kelly's dad seemed a little out there and I couldn't help but snicker at the ''makin' lovin''' line. I fully understand his upset, of course. Kristy Mutzfeld seemed legitimately upset, but like she was hiding something.
The guy in the Liz Charmichael segment who had a high-pitched voice.
The guy who was in prison for fraud or something in the Casalero segment. i think he had this long name like riconoshiuto and had wideeeeee eyes. something about him bugged me.
SheRaaa 09-24-2012, 06:25 PM Curtis Heck!
charmedsignora 09-24-2012, 07:20 PM The guy in the Liz Charmichael segment who had a high-pitched voice.
Was this the guy who told the audience that Liz "wanted to be a man, she wanted to wear a man's pants" and then, five minutes later, stated that he just "didn't question" the fact that Liz was a woman?
If so, I second it!:lol:
unsolved88 12-21-2012, 03:05 PM Kevin Poulsen's friend Sean Randol. She seemed weird, but wasn't a weirdo. :)
If you listen to her in the segment, she totally contradicts herself. She admits that Kevin does things which are illegal, then in the very next sentence, she states "Kevin is the type of person who would rather know how to do things than actually do them."
Either he's doing something illegal, or he's not. You can't say that someone is breaking the law in one breath and then go back and in the next breath say that the person merely has the knowledge to do so but would never act on it. They're two totally opposite statements.
Clockworkhigh 12-31-2012, 03:10 AM Don Dixon. Man, someone give that guy a friend, he's lonely.
I might be one of the few people here who the more I watch the Paul Pollis segment the more I actually sympathize with the guy. We have one interview with him. He likely would have been dogged by a million judgemental eyes long before this interview and he probably got sick of all the accusations and just as well assumed UM was the same way, which might be why he was hostile.
Honestly, almost everything in that segment that he did is understandable to me. No one thought he was a bad husband before Charlotte went missing. There are NO witnesses to anything. Charlotte's nutty family thought her body of all things was in his SHED just because he didn't want to waste time finding the key. Who in their right mind would stuff their dead wife in their shed and THEN alert her family and friends that she is missing? It's absurd.
I'll say it, I think the guy is innocent. Who wouldn't want to leave that town for a bit to clear their head? He had no motive to kill his wife. It was he himself who discovered Charlotte's purse. There is no struggle or nothing.
Two things happened. Charlotte either was in the wrong place at the wrong time with a home invasion and was quietly taken away, or she didn't love Paul and left him along with her loony extended family (which is easy to understand).
1990 UM fan 12-31-2012, 01:20 PM That cop in the Bordello murders segment. He seemed real cocky and snide. Heck, even Franklin Floyd's interview was odd.
Floyd: I bluntly say that I, erm, um....she was abandoned to me and I raised her. You know what you'd do to me? You'd try to pin a medal on me for taking her.
Interviewer: Where'd she come from?
Floyd: I can't tell you that, I wish that I could, but I'll tell you one thing...I did her a favor.
Creeper alert :eek: :eek: :eek:
WishfulDreamer 12-31-2012, 03:51 PM FDF is beyond weird and he just looks insane in the interview with those wide eyes and the unkempt hair. Kudos to the interviewer for keeping cool and calm even in the face of major rudeness. I really wish they would release portions of the interviews that didn't make it to the airwaves in UM segments. That one must be fascinating.
Spark Of Spirit 12-31-2012, 06:57 PM Franklin Delano Floyd for sure. But considering everything he's done, 'weird' doesn't even begin to describe his behavior.
WishfulDreamer 08-08-2013, 09:20 PM I know Steve Page has been mentioned, but I just have to throw this out there: ''I approached her about sex and we had sex.''
TheCars1986 08-09-2013, 08:09 AM Huey Littleton was a bit weird for believing all of those outlandish theories about cults and parties at the Ellender's house on the night of their murders.
TracyLynnS 08-09-2013, 01:12 PM Huey Littleton was a bit weird for believing all of those outlandish theories about cults and parties at the Ellender's house on the night of their murders.
I used to believe all that crap too. :crazy:
At least in his defense, it was during that satanic panic era and he was in the south/bible belt, where people were probably particularly freaked out about that stuff.
Even here in Detroit, back in the early 80s, the Detroit Free Press or The Detroit News (can't remember which) newspaper ran a huge story on the hidden satanic life, stating it all as fact, and talking about the backwards masking on rock records and all that stuff.
I was about 13 and believed that articles written in the newspapers and information in news broadcasts were researched and had to be true. I grabbed my Led Zepplin album and played it backwards on the record player to see if I could hear the "my sweet satan" part. lol
MegtheEgg86 08-09-2013, 03:10 PM Crystal Spencer's friend seemed like she was on some good drugs.
Yes. She came off as being a little "somewhere else" to me.
Jackie Littlejohn- the Albuquerque psychic interviewed for the St. James Hotel segment. Cool lady but man was she out there.
Yes! :lol:
I've always thought Norman Ladner's mother was a bit out there.
You aren't the only one. I feel like she had a strange way of speaking, it was almost like this I'm-so-delicate-I-have-to-whisper kind of thing.
Cars, I feel like we're beginning to be the consistent odd man and woman out on these. First Anton Kline, and now again!
Corkys-Place 08-09-2013, 10:29 PM Okay, I am not allowed to read this thread at work (hey I am on my lunch break!) as I laugh out loud at these comments.
The whole Bob Bean/Sammy Wheeler episode is legendary as it is just so many shades of awesome and white trashiness.
Dale Kerstetter's episode was very odd as well....people were very off and I think Dale is dead and some people are very nervous on camera and it makes them look "off."
Just a quick question about the Dale Kersetter case. Was the footage UM showed of him being marched off by the bandits and looking straight at the surveillance camera THE actual footage? Or was it a re-enactment of the footage? Either way the entire thing creeped me out as a child.
karenjanee 08-09-2013, 11:50 PM Just a quick question about the Dale Kersetter case. Was the footage UM showed of him being marched off by the bandits and looking straight at the surveillance camera THE actual footage? Or was it a re-enactment of the footage? Either way the entire thing creeped me out as a child.
On page 3 of the Dale Kersetter thread, Dale's daughter (goes by the screenname Moneypenny10) states that it was a re-enactment that was very similar to the original survelliance. That thread is an 18 pager, but worth a read if you have time. :)
TheCars1986 08-10-2013, 08:39 AM Cars, I feel like we're beginning to be the consistent odd man and woman out on these. First Anton Kline, and now again!
Ah, I'm used to it by now. ;)
Anywho, the way Norman's mother spoke was just a bit "off", IMO. And I did not believe for a second the story she told about the man approaching her at the funeral home (IIRC) who told her to stop looking into her son's death. Just the way she related it seemed fake.
unsolved88 08-10-2013, 10:55 AM Ah, I'm used to it by now. ;)
Anywho, the way Norman's mother spoke was just a bit "off", IMO. And I did not believe for a second the story she told about the man approaching her at the funeral home (IIRC) who told her to stop looking into her son's death. Just the way she related it seemed fake.
I was just thinking about that funeral home story the other day. I wonder if it's possible that some stranger had heard about what happened and was trying to offer his condolences. He may have simply been trying to encourage Mrs. Ladner to be strong for her other kids, but in her grief-stricken, depressed state, she took it as him saying "Forget Norman because you'll never figure out what happened to him. Go deal with your other six children."
I think her grief may have made her read into a stranger's words a threat that wasn't actually there.
MegtheEgg86 08-10-2013, 10:06 PM I was just thinking about that funeral home story the other day. I wonder if it's possible that some stranger had heard about what happened and was trying to offer his condolences. He may have simply been trying to encourage Mrs. Ladner to be strong for her other kids, but in her grief-stricken, depressed state, she took it as him saying "Forget Norman because you'll never figure out what happened to him. Go deal with your other six children."
I think her grief may have made her read into a stranger's words a threat that wasn't actually there.
That's precisely my thinking on it, too. I think the exchange probably did happen, but she interpreted it as a "warning" rather than a condolence.
wiseguy182 08-11-2013, 12:45 AM My impression of Norman Ladner's mom: she seemed like a sweet lady who was understandably grief-stricken over her son's death.
TheCars1986 08-12-2013, 08:38 AM That's precisely my thinking on it, too. I think the exchange probably did happen, but she interpreted it as a "warning" rather than a condolence.
That thought never occurred to me, but it makes perfect sense. In the context of someone trying to console her, what was said could be interpreted differently by a grief stricken parent.
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