What the hey? :eek:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100730/ap_on_en_tv/us_people_andy_griffith_5

Ugh. You know, for the most part, I've really really never cared that much if a celebrity holds opposite views from me. It's not that big of a deal. And, of course, I've known for decades where Andy stands, and of the likelihood we probably wouldn't see eye-to-eye on too many issues. Again, no big deal. But here, to go beyond this, and take on such a pro-active role in facilitating something (Obamacare) I regard as intensely vile and un-American, is frankly a bridge too far for me.

Looking up at my bookshelf at my eight seasons of TAGS on dvd, all beautifully remastered (and I particularly loved the season-2 and season-3 sets with the original cast commercials), I think back to the 80s/90s, when I spend so much time and effort taping all the episodes, lovingly collecting and cataloging them. Oh, well. This is really pretty stomach-churning for me. Maybe for a good long while I'll limit my video-visits to Mayberry to the adventures of Sam Jones and company. But darnit, if I next see some commercial PSA with Ken Berry and Arlene Golonka happily promoting the government takeover of the energy industry, I'm really going to lose it!

Ugh. You know, for the most part, I've really really never cared that much if a celebrity holds opposite views from me. It's not that big of a deal. And, of course, I've known for decades where Andy stands, and of the likelihood we probably wouldn't see eye-to-eye on too many issues. Again, no big deal. But here, to go beyond this, and take on such a pro-active role in facilitating something (Obamacare) I regard as intensely vile and un-American, is frankly a bridge too far for me.

Looking up at my bookshelf at my eight seasons of TAGS on dvd, all beautifully remastered (and I particularly loved the season-2 and season-3 sets with the original cast commercials), I think back to the 80s/90s, when I spend so much time and effort taping all the episodes, lovingly collecting and cataloging them. Oh, well. This is really pretty stomach-churning for me. Maybe for a good long while I'll limit my video-visits to Mayberry to the adventures of Sam Jones and company. But darnit, if I next see some commercial PSA with Ken Berry and Arlene Golonka happily promoting the government takeover of the energy industry, I'm really going to lose it!

Don't forget that he also appeared as Andy Taylor along w/ Ron Howard as Opie to promote Obama's Presidential run in the first place.

I'm a big Andy Griffith fan and always have been. Celebrities should just stay out of politics. I don't care what they believe in but I hate it when they use their celebrity status to try to influence people.

I'm a big Andy Griffith fan and always have been. Celebrities should just stay out of politics. I don't care what they believe in but I hate it when they use their celebrity status to try to influence people.
I agree 100%!! (Besides, all this time I thought AG was conservative!!!)

Don't forget that he also appeared as Andy Taylor along w/ Ron Howard as Opie to promote Obama's Presidential run in the first place.
I didn't know that, but I remember he and Henry Winkler reprised their Happy Days characters for an ad.

Love Andy!!!:D

Here's a link from Family Research Council on Andy and ObamaCare! http://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=WU10H03

It's the second story from the top.

Good grief. As if this whole thing wasn't nauseating enough, we now find out $700,000 of taxpayer money was used to produce this rather creepy piece of propaganda. This is really becoming a hell of a miserable footnote to decades of nostalgic affection for Andy of Mayberry.

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Good grief. As if this whole thing wasn't nauseating enough, we now find out $700,000 of taxpayer money was used to produce this rather creepy piece of propaganda. This is really becoming a hell of a miserable footnote to decades of nostalgic affection for Andy of Mayberry.
All I can do is shake my head. What HAPPENED to this country??? ohno:

I find this very odd, since Griffith claims to be conservative & Christian. If so, don't see how can he support anything that has to with with Obama, but perhaps he was paid a substantial sum to do those spots. Ultimately with actors, it comes down to money anyway.

Andy Griffith was trying to reach intelligent people who can be reasoned with. In other words--move along people. Nothing for any of you to see here.

I swear, Fox News has turned the whole lot of you into cartoons. Family Research Council?? Puh-leez. You'd think they'd be too busy spoiling for their next defeat in the Prop 8 fight to worry about the Health Care debate.

Andy Griffith was trying to reach intelligent people who can be reasoned with. In other words--move along people. Nothing for any of you to see here.

I swear, Fox News has turned the whole lot of you into cartoons. Family Research Council?? Puh-leez. You'd think they'd be too busy spoiling for their next defeat in the Prop 8 fight to worry about the Health Care debate.
Hey I am not a Damn cartoon. And the rest of you have been brainwashed by the likes of CNN and MSNBC for years. They've been reporting garbage and telling lies for as long as I can remember...and I know because I used to watch that crap. I always liked Andy Griffith. I'll still watch his show but I'm not going to give him a free pass on all of this. Actors act like they know more than anybody else and for the most part, they haven't got a clue. Now I'll move along.

For the record, I don't even have cable - so FOX news has not turned me into a cartoon...and neither has anyone or anything else. :mad: :mad: :mad:

Hey I am not a Damn cartoon. And the rest of you have been brainwashed by the likes of CNN and MSNBC for years. They've been reporting garbage and telling lies for as long as I can remember...and I know because I used to watch that crap. I always liked Andy Griffith. I'll still watch his show but I'm not going to give him a free pass on all of this. Actors act like they know more than anybody else and for the most part, they haven't got a clue. Now I'll move along.I agree.

This is a huge disappointment! Celebrities need to stay out of anything having to do with Hollywood.

It honestly doesn't bother me on what side of a political issue an actor chooses. They, like everyone else, are entitled to their opinions. The problem lies with those who allow the views of their favorite performers to sway the way they think. One of the scariest things in this world is an un-informed voting mass.

I know it's probably a radical concept, but I've always approached political issues by studying both sides and then casting an informed vote.

I remember many many years ago, Bill Bixby was being interviewed and the interviewer asked him why he never publicly endorsed a candidate. He said that he didn't like the idea of someone voting based on what he did. He prefered that they vote their conscience.

^ Very intelligent perception!! Also, kudos to Mr. Bixby.

No one here is a cartoon whether they are liberal and conservative. I dont believe in censorship of anykind, but I am beginning to think this place would be better off if the topic of politics were not discussed. It gets way too heated and then things turn personal.

It honestly doesn't bother me on what side of a political issue an actor chooses. They, like everyone else, are entitled to their opinions. The problem lies with those who allow the views of their favorite performers to sway the way they think. One of the scariest things in this world is an un-informed voting mass.

I know it's probably a radical concept, but I've always approached political issues by studying both sides and then casting an informed vote.

I remember many many years ago, Bill Bixby was being interviewed and the interviewer asked him why he never publicly endorsed a candidate. He said that he didn't like the idea of someone voting based on what he did. He prefered that they vote their conscience.
I always liked and respected Bill Bixby. IMO he was the perfect father figure. I also don't have a problem with actors having their own opinions. The problem is that they are public figures and they use their popularity in order to try to pursuade people that their side is right. If they want to enter politics then they should enter politics. I'm not going to let any of this interfer with my enjoyment of TAGS. I've watched that show since I was a kid. The characters on there are all people that I enjoy watching. I also like Matlock. I'm just more disappointed in Andy more than anything.

No one here is a cartoon whether they are liberal and conservative. I dont believe in censorship of anykind, but I am beginning to think this place would be better off if the topic of politics were not discussed. It gets way too heated and then things turn personal.
Yea I agree and this thread should have been put over on the politics board anyway. In Mayberry there are no politics. lol

For the record, I don't even have cable - so FOX news has not turned me into a cartoon...and neither has anyone or anything else. :mad: :mad: :mad:
I don't hardly watch Fox News. I don't watch much of any national news. They all turn me off. But I've believed what I believe long before Fox News was ever thought of. I have a mind of my own.

No one here is a cartoon whether they are liberal and conservative. I dont believe in censorship of anykind, but I am beginning to think this place would be better off if the topic of politics were not discussed. It gets way too heated and then things turn personal.

:yeahthat :thumbsup: :nod:

I don't hardly watch Fox News. I don't watch much of any national news. They all turn me off. But I've believed what I believe long before Fox News was ever thought of. I have a mind of my own.
Same here. I basically just watch the local news, anyway.

I wish that more celebrities thought like Bill Bixby. We do need to be informed and educated when we vote.

Sometimes I do wish that I was a cartoon. Then if I was upset with somebody, I could hit them in the head with an anvil and they would fold up like an accordian.

I wish that more celebrities thought like Bill Bixby. We do need to be informed and educated when we vote.

Sometimes I do wish that I was a cartoon. Then if I was upset with somebody, I could hit them in the head with an anvil and they would fold up like an accordian.
:rofl:

The poster who made the "cartoon" comment may have been out of line but I assume it is only out of frustration. No offense to anyone - but if Andy Griffith had done an ad for George W. I doubt we would even be talking about him. Perhaps celebrities should stay out of politics but just because they are on the left OR the right doesn't make them bad people. I tend to be more liberal on certain issues and I AM a Christian. Though I do NOT think it was intentionally meant to be an insult it did strike a chord when one of the posters made the comment, "I thought Andy Griffith was a conservative and a Christian," as if to say that if he was a liberal then he certainly couldn't be a Christian. There are tons of 'conservative' and 'liberal' Christians. That reminded me of during “W.s'” administration when he and his administration always seemed to insinuate that if you didn't agree with his policies you were unpatriotic - hence The 'Patriot Act'. There are MANY wonderful people who are both liberal and conservative. Elizabeth Montgomery is one prime example of someone who was a wonderful person and was a huge Democrat. She even accepted an invitation in the early 1990s from Dick Sargent to be a grand marshal of the gay pride parade in LA when he came out of the closet. On the other hand Barbara Eden is more conservative (though she does not talk about her politics publicly very much) and entertained troops with Bob Hope many times overseas. Both are wonderful people who were / are politically active and BOTH loved / love their country. Another thing to remember about Andy Griffith is that he is from the South and believe it or not years ago most people in the South voted for Democrats. I live in the South and know that many elderly people are still "Yellow Dog Democrats." In any case, let’s try not to be so quick to vilify someone simply due to their politics.

I find this very odd, since Griffith claims to be conservative & Christian. If so, don't see how can he support anything that has to with with Obama, but perhaps he was paid a substantial sum to do those spots. Ultimately with actors, it comes down to money anyway.

As a Christian and a conservative, I didn't vote for and do not agree with most of what the Obama administration is doing and wants to do. I'm not callus. We need healthcare reform. I just don't agree with how the Obama administration feels it should be done. Get government out of the way and let the churches and other organizations solve the problems. My local church supports churches in poor and needy areas and doctors in my congregation donate their time at free clinics.

But I have a coworker who may be like Andy. My coworker is a conservative Christian and he feels a responsibility to help the poor. He says the churches are not doing the job they should be doing and that the Federal government needs to do it. He says that Jesus talked about helping the poor (but Jesus also said the poor will always be with you), and God has blessed the USA to be able to help them. I can understand his reasoning, but don't agree that government can do a better job. Just look at the track record with Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, and the list goes on and on.

Even though I do get annoyed with actors and entertainers telling us their views, I do support their right to do so. And like others here, I always pictured Andy as a gun-toting, NRA supporting, Christian conservative. Maybe he's just a good actor portraying that role.

As a Christian and a conservative, I didn't vote for and do not agree with most of what the Obama administration is doing and wants to do. I'm not callus. We need healthcare reform. I just don't agree with how the Obama administration feels it should be done. Get government out of the way and let the churches and other organizations solve the problems. My local church supports churches in poor and needy areas and doctors in my congregation donate their time at free clinics.

But I have a coworker who may be like Andy. My coworker is a conservative Christian and he feels a responsibility to help the poor. He says the churches are not doing the job they should be doing and that the Federal government needs to do it. He says that Jesus talked about helping the poor (but Jesus also said the poor will always be with you), and God has blessed the USA to be able to help them. I can understand his reasoning, but don't agree that government can do a better job. Just look at the track record with Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, and the list goes on and on.

Even though I do get annoyed with actors and entertainers telling us their views, I do support their right to do so. And like others here, I always pictured Andy as a gun-toting, NRA supporting, Christian conservative. Maybe he's just a good actor portraying that role.
Very well put.

And like I said, I've been an Andy Griffith fan since I can remember. I grew up with The Andy Griffith Show and next to The Beverly Hillbillies, it was my favorite tv series of the 1960's. I also liked Matlock. I watched it every week even after it switched networks. This isn't going to stop me from liking his shows. I'm used to Hollywood getting involved with politics. Would I be as upset if he supported something President Bush suported? Probably not but then the left would be mad at him...probably calling him a far right winged religious nut. lol I just don't care for when actors do this. They try to use their popularity to further an agenda. it never works with me. I have my own mind and even if I like an actor, they can't influence me. And I'm sorry I flew off the handle a few days ago but I hate the name calling. It get's old.

As a Christian and a conservative, I didn't vote for and do not agree with most of what the Obama administration is doing and wants to do. I'm not callus. We need healthcare reform. I just don't agree with how the Obama administration feels it should be done. Get government out of the way and let the churches and other organizations solve the problems. My local church supports churches in poor and needy areas and doctors in my congregation donate their time at free clinics.



Very interesting discussion, and thankfully, very polite.

I agree that in an ideal world the government would not be so involved in social programs to get people back on their feet and help them between jobs, etc, and that it would be very preferable to have churches and local charities perform this work.

But isn't it a fact that most churches are struggling to stay alive themselves? Maybe it isn't this way all over but in my community just about every parish I know is barely above water financially, and is having serious problems with church membership, attendance, etc. What happens if the churches, etc. AREN'T able to perform these works? Does government never have the moral responsibility to address these issues?

Again, I am very sympathetic with your points and I realize there is no easy answer to the problem of poverty and human need. I'm just not sure it's logical (or fair) to consign the bulk of a nation's charity to a societal institution that's already dangerously low on financial and human resources. I think everyone has a part to play in the solution.

You're totally right that many churches/food pantries are in dire straits these days. I know in our area, the food pantries/banks have struggled the last few years to stay alive. As for who is responsible for the poor - the churches or the government - that's a tough call. I'm on the fence about that. Definitely food for thought - no pun intended!!!

Very interesting topic. I know that where some things are concerned that it is important to take a stand and not waffle but a lot of times moderation is the key. I agree that when possible churches, social groups, etc. can and have a responsibility to help but government programs CAN help too. Yes, there are those that abuse the system but there are people who truly need assistance. Perhaps where government assistance is concerned it is a matter of making it better and run more efficient as opposed to simply cutting everything off. In any event I am glad that the posters on this forum can agree to disagree and have a civil and respectful debate on the topic - everyone deserves respect and to be heard. :)

Andy Taylor = great man
Andy Griffith = just another dang liberal

Celebrities have always done this type of thing and they always will. Just enjoy Andy. He is still cool in my opinion. Maybe in his heart he really feels people need healthcare in this country. I don't think Andy is the kind of person who is a real political type. I mean, do people hate Chuck Norris or Buddy Ebsen(Beverly Hillbillies), or Agnes Moorehead for expressing a conservative opinion-no. Just enjoy and let live. This healthcare thing is not as big a deal as you think it will be. Or as scary as people believe it is. Right now though don't you agree something needs to be done? The public option would have been the right thing to do but the insurance companies paid out of work people to go and stir up trouble and then people had the notion that the public option was a bad thing. Believe it or not GWBush was very close to making a deal with Congress to get some kind of healthcare passed. Social programs expanded more under Bush that at any other time. That is a fact and not an opinion. People need to start coming together in this country and stop driving our brothers and sisters away from each other just because we have a different political viewpoint. Not a big deal and at the end of the day, it is not really important how a person believes. We all need the same things-food, shelter and a good family. But the anger and bitterness needs to go away.

My parents are just a little younger than Andy, but some of the most heated discussions we have when we get together is about health care. Because my father's employer always provided great health insurance, my parents feel they are entitled to free health coverage for whatever the problem is. These are the same people that voted for Nixon over Kennedy and Ford over Carter, so they have been politically conservative most of their lives. They just have lived most of their lives in an era where life has been good.

I, on the other hand, am in debt paying off a house, cars, and trying to save for kids college funds. I say government spends too much and collects too much in taxes. I think that we should dump many of the government programs and give great tax deductions to people who will fund private charities to replace them.

Are my parentswrong to want affordable healthcare? No. Am I wrong to say I don't want to pay for it? No. The best solution is probably somewhere in the middle.

I am afraid I won't be able to afford this healthcare that went through. I don't qualify for public assistance and I would feel funny taking something like that anyway. I have always been the kind of person who has provided there own way in life. And as long as my two hands are fit to work I will continue to do so. What I don't understand is why Congress passed this at a time when so many people are out of work and cannot afford it and so many more people are struggling. I am a liberal person because I believe in live and let live but I am not affliliated with either political party. What not too many people have not questioned about this is personal privacy. Do we still have doctor patient rights? I mean are our medical records going to be on FAcebook for the whole dumb world to see? But I cannot afford to go to a doctor or dentist. I haven't been to either one in over 20 years. When I have a pain I suck it up no matter how badly it hurts. Right now I think I have a broken arm but no way to pay for a doctor because where I live you have to drive 8 hours to go to a decent doctor in Denver. But I have never had a doctor help me in my lifetime and they never will. From the time I was born I have been poked and pricked by doctors and I refuse to allow another one touch me. The last one I went to was a horrific experience. And one I would never wish on another living soul. I still have nightmares about it. I hope my state of Wyoming will sue the government. I don't need or want this hellcare crap. But as far as Andy making a psa about it I really don't care. He is still the Andy we all know and love.

With McDonalds talking about dropping the Mini-Med plans, a friend who has a small business said that he may need to close his shop. He has been told (I don't know by whom) that his healthcare costs for his employees will go up by $5000 a month. He says he can't afford that.

And to think that just 40 or 50 years ago, very few had health insurance. Now the government is making it illegal to not have it.

Shame on a large company like McDonalds cutting off insurance to people who need it. Also, shame on the government not helping small businesses. Small businesses are the backbone of this country and we should have bailed them out, not huge banks and the auto industry. The bad part right now with our political system is that both parties are taking money from huge companies to finance the crushing of the middle class who right now who are struggling just to be within the poverty level. Someone needs to be the voice of the poor and the beaten down. I guess people have forgotten though that we are the government. I say we through all the bums out, but there is a problem with that too, do we replace them with something worse?
Sometimes just changing something is not the answer either.

Well, it's been two months and I find I still can't compartmentalize this thing with Andy. I also have a neighbor down the street who is planning to close up his small business and lay off his employees come January due to all this Obamacare mess. He's hardly going to be granted a 'waver' from the administration unlike some of those privileged, bigwig corporations. I didn't know what to tell him. Other than inform him that regardless of any mandates, I'm personally not going to purchase any insurance, and I'm not going to pay any fines either. If government goons are sent to my door, they had better come with guns loaded and cocked, because I'm not going without a fight.

That's why this whole thing with Andy has really been so grating. I've certainly never cared all that much when folks held opposite views from me, from friends to family to far-off celebrities. It's only natural. Doesn't bother me in the least. But being an active participant in this Obamacare vileness is just too much for me to personally stomach. TAGS has been a part of my childhood and a part of my whole adult life, and to have something I've long cherished become rather soured due to Griffith's action leaves me frankly quite angered and irritated. Just my honest opinion, for what it's worth (which is admittedly, nuthin').

And also,he doesn't look,or sound that good.I guess years have taken their toll on him.

And also,he doesn't look,or sound that good.I guess years have taken their toll on him.
I noticed the same thing. I understand how voices can change over the years, but his sounds like he has been or is ill.

I'm a big Andy Griffith fan and always have been. Celebrities should just stay out of politics. I don't care what they believe in but I hate it when they use their celebrity status to try to influence people.

I agree. One of my favorite interviews was when a reporter in Vegas asked Elvis what was his opinion of the Vietnam war. He said "I'm just an entertainer and I would rather keep my opinion to myself."

^ Amen to that. Even though I was admittedly perplexed (for a minute) that Andy would support Obamacare (as well appear in the video with Ron Howard reprising their TAGS characters supporting Obama), whom celebrities endorse has no bearing on what I believe or how I vote.

Love Andy!!!:D

Me too!

I don't really see what the trouble is with actors, celebrities or whatever you want to call them endorsing political candidates and/or policies. Sure, they can influence voters, but that cuts both ways; Not all voters are necessarily going to be influenced in the manner said ads are intended (sometimes the hooey is so obvious that one feels their intelligence has been insulted!) and ultimately, it's the voter's job to decide if and how he or she is influenced!

Christian? Other? Doesn't pertain to one's view of "Obamacare."

In fact, "Obamacare" is a misnomer, as the bill we got (which seems to frustrated just about everybody!) is just as much the product of compromise, bribery and legislative obstruction (by BOTH parties, mind you) of politicians and activists of all stripes as it is the end desired by the President.

Someone on this thread commented that if Andy had done an ad for George W. Bush that nobody would be discussing it at all, but ironically, that person insisted the opposite!

As for actors/celebrities being too uneducated, too greedy, too liberal, or too anything to justify exercising their right to free speech (or PAID speech, for that matter!) I say "Nonsense!"

If the last decade has taught the American public anything, it's that actors/celebrities represent ALL political persuasions in this country: Chuck Norris, Jon Voight, Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammer, Sela Ward, James Woods, Dennis Miller, Victoria Jackson: NONE of them identify themselves as progressives.

Fair enough; they’ve got a right to vote as they see fit, as do those much-maligned "Hollywood Libs."

And what's the real end product of all this name-calling and belief-bashing? Who knows? All it seems to lead to is MORE name-calling and belief-bashing, with all participants remaining frustrated, misrepresented and dissatisfied!

There's not a celebrity named above that I haven't been entertained by, and everyone named here has made a contribution to sitcom history-

and that's what it's all about around here, right?

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Someone on this thread commented that if Andy had done an ad for George W. Bush that nobody would be discussing it at all, but ironically, that person insisted the opposite!

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The above that was stated by the previous poster was about a comment in a former post I made and in all due respect I would appreciate clarification on your statement (above) regarding what I said. I am not sure by what you mean that "ironically" my statement "insisted the opposite". All I was saying was that had it been an ad supporting an agenda for the Bush administration I doubt anyone would have questioned Andy Griffith's ad. I say that because most of the posters seem to appear lean more on the conservative side and seem to have envisioned Andy Griffith as being more conservative - THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING. No offense at all intended but I don't see aywhere in my statement that I insisted the opposite. If you were referring to my comment regarding "The Patriot Act" I was only using that as an example of a perception many on the left saw as a vehicle the former administration used to 'vilify' those who didn't agree with their policy - be the perception accurate or inaccurate.

I really wince when I see these commercials. Not because of anything political, as Andy's free to feel any way he wants about anything (as are we all, btw), but his weak voice and demeanor are disturbing. Yes, he's older now (84 I think) and I don't expect him to bellow like Lonesome Rhodes anymore, but he's slurring a bit and just seems quite frail. I hope it's nothing more than age.

[QUOTE=pscisme]

Someone on this thread commented that if Andy had done an ad for George W. Bush that nobody would be discussing it at all, but ironically, that person insisted the opposite!

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The above that was stated by the previous poster was about a comment in a former post I made and in all due respect I would appreciate clarification on your statement (above) regarding what I said. I am not sure by what you mean that "ironically" my statement "insisted the opposite". All I was saying was that had it been an ad supporting an agenda for the Bush administration I doubt anyone would have questioned Andy Griffith's ad. I say that because most of the posters seem to appear lean more on the conservative side and seem to have envisioned Andy Griffith as being more conservative - THAT'S ALL I WAS SAYING. No offense at all intended but I don't see aywhere in my statement that I insisted the opposite. If you were referring to my comment regarding "The Patriot Act" I was only using that as an example of a perception many on the left saw as a vehicle the former administration used to 'vilify' those who didn't agree with their policy - be the perception accurate or inaccurate.

You misunderstand me, Ansara! Your post was referenced in mine, but you were not being attacked, nor was I charging you with any sort of partisanship.
As for how you "insisted the opposite"?
Simple: This claim that "if George W. Bush," (or whatever name the other side answers to) had done the same thing, it would change the game concerning comments is simply untrue, because the very person who makes this claim IS commenting on the situation they argue wouldn't merit response!
I was calling attention to your comment because it's commonly raised during partisan political discussion these days, and it's incorrect!
That aside, I've found your comments to be very reasonable and insightful and again, I meant no personal affront with my remark. I don't necessarily equate disagreement with vilification, and because I do appreciate your comments, I ask you to please accept my formal apology:
I'm sorry that my post offended you and I sincerely hope that my future posts will not.

I always liked and respected Bill Bixby.

Well, that's just the living end!:mad:

The actions of Bill Bixby has soured my viewing experience of watching the Incredible Hulk!

But darnit, if I next see some commercial PSA with Ken Berry and Arlene Golonka happily promoting the government takeover of the energy industry, I'm really going to lose it!

Damn Ken Berry to Hell! :mad: I'm never going to watch Mama's Family in the same way again!

Here we are, almost five years down the road. When this thread started, Ted Cruz was two years away from his successful US Senate bid on the promise to repeal Obamacare--which he's now signed up for. Wasn't that clever of the right to rename the ACA 'Obamacare'? Republicans were so confident that they could prevent the law from going into effect, they apparently never considered that their rebranding would transform from a mocking derision to an indelible association of affordable health care for tens of millions (and counting) with the man who fought to give it to them. I think Andy Griffith deserves a little bit of the credit for helping to bring that about, don't you?

What happened to Andy? Obamacare got a hold of his medical requests, sent them over to the Death Panel, saw how old Ange is and sent him a prescription for pain pills. Operation denied, treatment to cure: denied, just take a pain pill Andy, Our Beloved Obama knows what's good for you, forget what your Dr says, what does he know? Here take a pain pill and call your Funeral parlor in the morning. Better yet, make arrangements NOW. Obamacare at it's finest. If it weren't so true I might even laugh.:mad:

Andy can thank Obamacare for where he is today.:)

If that were satire it would be brilliant.

But it's not satire.



See folks, this is the risk you run when you stick your fingers in your ears. The more you try to shut out reality, the harder you press until eventually your fingertips are touching.

No you're wrong, it was brilliant. Listen and learn, humor must always be based in truth, my wonderful commentary had nothing but truth in it and one liners to boot. Now when you can really start laughing will be the first time you actually go to use your beloved Obamacare. Good luck neighbor, Obama's got you covered. I know I feel secure in that.:lol: