View Full Version : Smoking on "Bewitched"


Rezny@gmail.com
07-19-2010, 01:36 AM
I am aware that both the late Elizabeth Montgomery and the late Dick York smoked,and it was done in the early black and white episodes and some color ones in the 1960's,by Samantha,when she wore that black wig in a first season black and white episode,Endora,in a black and white first season episode,and a hookah(water pipe)in a color episode,Larry ,and Darrin (cigars,cigarettes,and once,in the very funny second season black and white episode in which Tabitha was born,and introduced Serena,Darrin smoked a pipe)did it.Question:In any of the episodes from the late 1960's(1969-1972)when Dick Sargent took over as Darrin,was there any smoking?

catlover79
07-19-2010, 01:50 AM
Times sure have changed. Back then, the public wasn't really informed how harmful smoking was (and sadly, Dick York would learn the hard way, dying of emphysema at age 63). There was smoking in the show from beginning to end - not to mention LOTS of drinking!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Marvo301
07-19-2010, 01:52 AM
I don't know if there was any smoking in the Dick Sargent episodes but I do know that Dick York paid a horrible price for his smoking. Late in his life he was diagnosed with emphysema and died of that horrible disease.

catlover79
07-19-2010, 01:57 AM
I don't know if there was any smoking in the Dick Sargent episodes but I do know that Dick York paid a horrible price for his smoking. Late in his life he was diagnosed with emphysema and died of that horrible disease.
Plus, the disease aged him horribly. He was only in his early 60s but looked more like he was in his mid-70s. :(

Marvo301
07-19-2010, 02:03 AM
Plus, the disease aged him horribly. He was only in his early 60s but looked more like he was in his mid-70s. :(
I was just thinking the same thing. I remember them interviewing him on E.T. when he was ill and hooked up to oxygen. He looked much older than his actual age. It was really sad to see him like that. But it was neat that he was still doing fund raising for his charity at that time. It's very inspiring that he put others first almost to the very end.

catlover79
07-19-2010, 02:11 AM
^ AMEN!!!

MickeyMac
07-19-2010, 12:45 PM
Dick York was a true humanitarian right until the end.

old grouch
07-19-2010, 04:20 PM
It's funny how in some of these old shows they choose to light up in the weirdest places, such as hospital waiting rooms and department stores.

Rezny@gmail.com
07-19-2010, 05:48 PM
Now,let's get back to the question.Just curious,because in the late 1960's-early 1970's,(especially the 1970's),smoking on TV series was cut down to a minimum,and ads were banned altogether.In case any of you have forgotten the question,it was this:Was there any smoking at all during the Dick Sargent as Darrin years?Again,just curious.Thanks.

Larry Tate
07-19-2010, 07:45 PM
I don't recall Dick Sargent ever smoking on Bewitched, i think Larry & the clients still did in the last three seasons.
Liz did not.

Larry Tate :)

Now,let's get back to the question.Just curious,because in the late 1960's-early 1970's,(especially the 1970's),smoking on TV series was cut down to a minimum,and ads were banned altogether.In case any of you have forgotten the question,it was this:Was there any smoking at all during the Dick Sargent as Darrin years?Again,just curious.Thanks.

catlover79
07-19-2010, 08:11 PM
It's funny how in some of these old shows they choose to light up in the weirdest places, such as hospital waiting rooms and department stores.
I guess it's a sign of the times!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

catlover79
07-19-2010, 08:11 PM
Dick York was a true humanitarian right until the end.
:yeahthat That he sure was.

Rezny@gmail.com
07-19-2010, 08:18 PM
And remember the first season Dick York as Darrin black and white episode "George The Warlock"with the late Christopher George?He(George)is the ONLY one in that episode who did.

tv star collector
07-20-2010, 08:18 AM
Smoking was so widely accepted in the sixties that Darren was even seen smoking on the cover of a Bewitched coloring book. Check it out here:

http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/coloringbook.jpg

comedyfreak
07-20-2010, 08:43 AM
I don't recall Dick Sargent smoking at all during the '69-'72 years, though Maurice zapped cigars in everyones hands when Adam was born.

catlover79
07-20-2010, 11:44 AM
Smoking was so widely accepted in the sixties that Darren was even seen smoking on the cover of a Bewitched coloring book. Check it out here:

http://www.harpiesbizarre.com/coloringbook.jpg
Those pictures are so disturbing now, knowing Dick York would eventually die from the effects of those cigarettes. :(

Frump
07-20-2010, 08:31 PM
I think people go to the extreme on both sides.

An occasional drink isn't gonna hurt you, neither is an occasional cigarette.

catlover79
07-21-2010, 12:43 AM
I think people go to the extreme on both sides.

An occasional drink isn't gonna hurt you, neither is an occasional cigarette.
Well, Dick York was a heavy smoker for years and years - which ended up killing him. That's what I was trying to say.

storrs19
07-21-2010, 11:48 AM
As with most vices I think moderation is the key. Someone who puts away 2 or 3 packs of cigarettes a day and / or a half pint of alcohol is certainly more likey to die young than the person who has 3 or 4 drinks a week and smokes less than a pack a day. It used to be commonplace to smoke just about anywhere at any time. Go back to some shows in the 1950's and you will see much more smoking going on.

joan davis fan
07-21-2010, 04:43 PM
I think people go to the extreme on both sides.

An occasional drink isn't gonna hurt you, neither is an occasional cigarette.


Also it needs to be said that the cigarettes and cigars that were on the market at the time of Bewitched and I Love Lucy were much much more stronger ( meaning a LOT more tar and nicotine ) than what is on the market now.

Example..the early "low tar" smokes from the late 60's/early 70's such as Doral, Vantage and even Marlboro Lights...all of them had a lot MORE tar than what is in your average pack of FULL-FLAVOR Marlboros today.

McGillicuddy
07-21-2010, 06:35 PM
Now,let's get back to the question.Just curious,because in the late 1960's-early 1970's,(especially the 1970's),smoking on TV series was cut down to a minimum,and ads were banned altogether.In case any of you have forgotten the question,it was this:Was there any smoking at all during the Dick Sargent as Darrin years?Again,just curious.Thanks.
Casual smoking on family sitcoms stopped dramatically in the mid to late '60's. I'm sure Darrin#2 never smoked and Dick York, I think only smoked in the very beginning. I think I recall Larry smoking too. But as much as the Stephens and Tates entertained clients, I don't recall many of them smoking, and McMann & Tate never did business with a cigarette corporation!

joan davis fan
07-21-2010, 06:47 PM
Casual smoking on family sitcoms stopped dramatically in the mid to late '60's.

True. After the 1964 report by the surgeon general linking cigarette smoking to cancer and other diseases, it was just a matter of time before cigarette ads would be banned from TV & radio so as a result scenes showing casual smoking did drop.

Totally Forgotten now but even before the 1971 nationwide ( America ) ban of TV and radio cigarette ads some cities had already banned them from their airwaves as early as 1968 in such cities as Baltimore, Denver and Salt Lake City plus some major TV stations of the time like Pittsburgh's KDKA & WTAE, Boston's WHDH & WBZ, Philadelphia's KYW and I believe KTVK in Phoenix, they more/less did the same as in banning smokes from THEIR airwaves and this was BEFORE the 1971 ban. Anyway the actions in those markets I am sure added to the decrease of smoking scenes on TV at the time.

In other words if Pittsburgh's WTAE didn't allow smoking on their airwaves and they show Bewitched ( which they did since WTAE was/is an ABC affiliate ) then WTAE had the legal power to censor those smoking scenes on their own or even totally pre-empting the "smoking" episodes of Bewitched in Pittsburgh and there would be nothing ABC could had done about it. And considering that Pittsburgh at the time was a HUGE TV market that would mean for ABC fewer viewers and of course..fewer money from ads.

One way or another, it wouldn't had been worth it.

McGillicuddy
07-21-2010, 07:17 PM
I don't recall Dick Sargent smoking at all during the '69-'72 years, though Maurice zapped cigars in everyones hands when Adam was born.
I don't think cigar and pipe smoking was ostracized (or frowned upon) as much as cigarettes at that time. Comedieans such as George Burns and Danny Thomas smoked cigars while performing, and how 'bout Columbo?

catlover79
07-22-2010, 12:34 AM
I don't think cigar and pipe smoking was ostracized (or frowned upon) as much as cigarettes at that time. Comedieans such as George Burns and Danny Thomas smoked cigars while performing, and how 'bout Columbo?
It's so ironic that George Burns smoked how many pipes over the years and still lived to be 100!!!

JamesG
07-22-2010, 12:38 AM
It's so ironic that George Burns smoked how many pipes over the years and still lived to be 100!!!

Because for pipe smoking you are smoking pure, clean tobacco without any additives.

Also, you do not inhale (or, you really aren't supposed to) so very little goes directly into your lungs.

Your risks for mouth or throat cancer are higher but the percentage of people who have gotten it from pipes is very, very low.

catlover79
07-22-2010, 12:44 AM
Because for pipe smoking you are smoking pure, clean tobacco without any additives.

Also, you do not inhale (or, you really aren't supposed to) so very little goes directly into your lungs.

Your risks for mouth or throat cancer are higher but the percentage of people who have gotten it from pipes is very, very low.
Wow - you really do learn something new every day!! :eek:

JamesG
07-22-2010, 12:49 AM
Wow - you really do learn something new every day!! :eek:

Another reason is because some of the flavor of pipes/cigars are so strong that you would probably choke if you try to inhale them lol.

Some people develop a tolerance to them over the years but they aren't meant to be inhaled. You get the strong taste without the need to inhale.


Cigarettes on the other hand, the amount of tobacco is so low that you need to take it all in to get its flavor. Plus you get addicted to the nicotine that makes you want to keep on smoking.

Cigars/Pipes don't come with nicotine added.

comedyfreak
07-22-2010, 09:20 AM
It's so ironic that George Burns smoked how many pipes over the years and still lived to be 100!!!
I thought he only smoked cigars I don't remember seeing him with a pipe.

JamesG
07-22-2010, 09:40 AM
I thought he only smoked cigars I don't remember seeing him with a pipe.

For his public image / stage persona he was seen with cigars, but he smoked pipes as well.



Interesting info from http://www.tvacres.com/tobac_burns.htm

In Vaudeville, George started to use the cigar at the age of fourteen. He used a large seven cent cigar as a prop/security blanket and because he thought it made him look more sophisticated.

Burns admitted on the PHIL DONAHUE SHOW that at the age of eighty-eight he still smoked 10-20 cigars a day despite the fact that he had open heart surgery in 1974. The cigar is now an important part of his celebrity status. Now while the audience laughs, he just puffs away.


The cigars he smokes, however, are inexpensive El Producto cigars that sell for a few dollars. He found that expensive cigars are packed too tight and tend to go out to often. So he chooses to use cheap lightly rolled cigars so that he can get more smoke per puff.

If George ever received expensive cigars as gifts, he gave them away to a cigar smoking friends like Danny Thomas.

Rezny@gmail.com
07-22-2010, 10:03 AM
I am surprised that no one has mentioned the fact that the late Elizabeth Montgomery did it,too,(but probably not as much as the late Dick York did)and what effect it had on HER untimely death.

joan davis fan
07-22-2010, 10:47 AM
It's so ironic that George Burns smoked how many pipes over the years and still lived to be 100!!!

I have always thought of Burns as a cigar guy, don't recall ever seeing him smoking a pipe even though he could had been into such things just that I have never seen an pics of Burns smoking a pipe.

As was already pointed out, I doubt Burns or the other actors from the past who were into cigars..or pipes I doubt they had inhaled them. Now today on the other hand many young people who do smoke cigars and pipes chances are that they DO inhale them like cigarettes.

Last year while flipping through the channels I did catch part of an interview with actor Seth Rogen. During the interview he was smoking a cigar and yeah Seth was inhaling the smoke.

catlover79
07-23-2010, 01:21 AM
Yeah, mainly you did see George Burns with a cigar, but I did also see him with a pipe in some other shows. Speaking of pipes/cigars, every time I pass that section in the drugstore, that vanilla scented tobacco (or whatever it is) makes me feel sick. Yuck. puke:

TV Knowledge Fan
07-23-2010, 03:49 AM
...the primary sponsor of "WENDY AND ME", the sitcom George co-starred with Connie Stevens in the 1964-'65 season [the same season and network "BEWITCHED" first appeared in], was Consolidated Cigar's 'El Producto'. They gave George several boxes of cigars regularly, even after the series had been cancelled; they liked the way he puffed on them, and he often appeared in "integrated commercials" for El Producto at the end of the show. So why shouldn't it have been his favorite brand?

As for "BEWITCHED", there were more instances of smoking in the earlier seasons than the later ones because the series was originally aimed towards an "adult" audience at 9pm(et). After it moved to 8:30pm in early 1967, it gradually became more of a "family-oriented" series, with children a larger part of the audience, and instances of people casually "lighting up" were eventually eliminated [even Abner Kravitz's pipe disappered as well by the end of the decade]. However, no cigarette advertisting ever appeared on the show: at one time or another, Chevrolet, Quaker Oats, Eastman Kodak, Oscar Mayer and Bristol-Myers were its primary sponsors. The only time tobacco advertising was ever associated with McMann & Tate was in Al Hine's 1965 Dell paperback adaptation of "BEWITCHED": in the chapter based on "Mother Meets What's-His-Name", while getting acquainted with him, Endora asks Darrin if he has a cigarette: "We handle Wormsey's Pipe Mixture, but we don't have a cigarette advertiser yet". "To smoke, dear boy".

:tv:

McGillicuddy
07-23-2010, 05:10 AM
Back to smoking on Bewitched, didn't Abner often have a pipe, when Gladys came running in screaming?

Rezny@gmail.com
07-23-2010, 11:19 AM
Yes,he did.You are 100% Correct.

catlover79
07-23-2010, 02:23 PM
Back to smoking on Bewitched, didn't Abner often have a pipe, when Gladys came running in screaming?
That he did, usually when he was reading his paper.