I heard some tapes over the weekend that confirmed what we already knew, that he's a racist. What I didn't know is that he's batterer. He admitted to hitting his girlfriend in the face. I just heard yet another tape where Gibson threatens to beat her with a bat and put her in their rose garden. I think Mel Gibson's career is done. I know I wouldn't pay to see any of his movies. He's a looney bird. He's facing criminal charges.

He's done, stick a fork in him

I can't even watch any of his movies anymore. I love his movie "Maverick" and can't even watch it cause of him

Yeah, he's kind of a loon. And it's a shame because he's a terrific actor.

Whoopi is sticking up for him, saying he's not a racist.

Then what the eff do you call it? Oye

Yeah, he's totally lost it, if in fact he ever "had" it.

The hatred that comes out of him is really frightening. I think he's a very sick person and I agree that his career is over. Sure he could go away for a while for therapy (or jail) and maybe "come back" enlightened or whatever, but he's kind of too old for that to really stick. Or matter.

Yeah, he's done.

He hasn't had a hit movie, in what more than 5 years? He's been done for awhile I'd say

I used to be a very big Mel Gibson fan. I loved him in the Lethal Weapon movies and Braveheart. I still have alot of his movies on VHS but I haven't watched them in years. He's just lost it. I don't see how he'll ever recover from all of this. I'll never look at him the same again. He's not the person I thought he was. That was probably his greatest acting job....fooling people into thinking that he wasn't a racist and a nutjob.

This is the man behind The Passion of the Christ? What's wrong with this picture??

And I cannot believe that Whoopi Goldberg would(as did years earlier,Jodie Foster),stick up for him,by telling the girls on the show "The View"that he's NOT a racist.

What was Whoppi's reasoning, does anyone know? I can't believe she doesn't think he's a racist. I use the racist word very sparingly, and it's very clear to me that Mel Gibson is a racist. He's got it in for blacks, jews and now it appears, women. It makes me wonder what his ex-wife went through. At least she's got pillows to cry on, made out of 100 dollar bills, piled towards the clouds. :)

This is the man behind The Passion of the Christ? What's wrong with this picture??
Sad, isn't it? Plus, he was married to the same woman for almost 30 years, dumps her, shacks up with this current woman, has an illegitimate child with her, and then beats her.

I totally see Mel falling out of the A-list, quite possibly for good. If he does, than he has no one to blame but himself.

Sad, isn't it? Plus, he was married to the same woman for almost 30 years, dumps her, shacks up with this current woman, has an illegitimate child with her, and then beats her.

I totally see Mel falling out of the A-list, quite possibly for good. If he does, than he has no one to blame but himself.
Kathy Griffin's life on the "D" List is far above where Mel Gibson is right now! :eek:

Kathy Griffin's life on the "D" List is far above where Mel Gibson is right now! :eek:
Now that's REALLY sad! :eek:

Now that's REALLY sad! :eek:
It's very sad how far Mel has fallen from heights of superstardom to depths of his own anger and personal problems. They just said on E.T. that his mouth has become his own lethal weapon. Ouch! :eek:

It's very sad how far Mel has fallen from heights of superstardom to depths of his own anger and personal problems. They just said on E.T. that his mouth has become his own lethal weapon. Ouch! :eek:
Hey, the truth hurts!! :nod:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/gossip/2010/07/whoopi-goldberg-mel-gibson-is-not-a-racist.html

Ministry of Gossip
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July 12, 2010 | 3:27 pm

Comedian and "The View" co-host Whoopi Goldberg declared that Mel Gibson is not a racist, as she and the rest of the daytime panel on Monday discussed recently released tapes allegedly featuring the actor -- including one in which a racial slur is used.

Whoopi-goldberg "I know Mel, and I know he's not a racist," Goldberg said. "He may be a bonehead."

Joy Behar was not of the same mind.

"Give me a break, you're an anti-Semite, you're a misogynist, and you're a racist!" Behar said of Gibson, referencing the audio tapes and the remarks Gibson made during a 2006 arrest for DUI.

"I can't sit and say that he's a racist," Goldberg said, "having spent time with him in my house with my kids."

I really wonder what has spurred Mel Gibson on this nutty path.

Was he always this racist and angry?
I find it hard to believe he conducted himself this way back before the last 2 episodes. Because we would have heard it, at least an inkling.

Regardless. It's not in the least bit funny that he seems to be losing it.

I don't know, racist or unstable, or both, it's not good.

Who knew South Park had it right years ago?

Who knew South Park had it right years ago?
Scary. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Does anyone feel that 'The Passion Of the Christ' was his lame attempt to buy respectability in people's eyes? These things apparently were going on for years before his anti-Semitic rant at a policeman who stopped him for speeding while intoxicated a few years ago.

Does anyone feel that 'The Passion Of the Christ' was his lame attempt to buy respectability in people's eyes? These things apparently were going on for years before his anti-Semitic rant at a policeman who stopped him for speeding while intoxicated a few years ago.
Knowing what we know now, it wouldn't be a surprise. A shame, but not a surprise. :(

Does anyone feel that 'The Passion Of the Christ' was his lame attempt to buy respectability in people's eyes? These things apparently were going on for years before his anti-Semitic rant at a policeman who stopped him for speeding while intoxicated a few years ago.
I seriously doubt Mel Gibson could think coherently enough to hatch that sort of plan. I think it was more like a lucky co-incidence for him that that movie came out when it did.

He also has his highly anti-Semitic father to thank for bringing him up right. :rolleyes:

He also has his highly anti-Semitic father to thank for bringing him up right. :rolleyes:
And the apple didn't fall far from the tree did it? :rolleyes:

It looks like his talent agency dropped him.

I seriously doubt Mel Gibson could think coherently enough to hatch that sort of plan. I think it was more like a lucky co-incidence for him that that movie came out when it did.
That's true. He most likely was convinced of his own "saintliness" that his abusive behavior didn't factor otherwise.

Whoopi do shut up! Racists are good at covering up. If he was at your house when his career was going good, he wasn't going to do anything to eff that up.

Ugh I HATE when people defend racists

It looks like his talent agency dropped him.
His career appears to be over.

He also has his highly anti-Semitic father to thank for bringing him up right. :rolleyes:
Like father, like scum. :nod:

Like father, like scum. :nod:
OUCH! :eek: :lol:

It looks like his talent agency dropped him.
WOW!!!

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-mel-gibson-20100713,0,341591.story

Gibson scandal could doom his movie career

Talent agents and studio executives say it will be difficult for Gibson to be hired as an actor or director on a mainstream project. Gibson is heard on tapes threatening former girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva.


By Steven Zeitchik, Los Angeles Times

July 13, 2010


As Mel Gibson's legal and publicity problems mount, his prospects for a future in mainstream Hollywood grow dimmer.

Eight minutes of new audio surfaced on Monday capturing Gibson's angry and expletive-laden rant to ex-girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva. The recording, which appeared on the website Radar Online, follows an earlier release on the site of a tape in which Gibson uses foul and threatening language toward Grigorieva as well as the N-word. Monday's audio features an increasingly apoplectic Gibson threatening Grigorieva, with whom he's locked in a child custody battle, yelling at her that she needs a "bat to the side of the head" and that he could put her "in a … rose garden" if he wanted to. (Although the audio has not been independently verified by The Times, no one involved in the incident, including representatives from Gibson's camp, has called its authenticity into question.)

Interviews with a number of Hollywood talent agents and studio executives on Monday suggest that as a result of these recordings, Gibson has become anathema in the entertainment business; the insiders see little way Gibson would be hired as either an actor or director on any mainstream film.

On Friday, the news broke that Gibson had been dropped by his agency, William Morris Endeavor, around the time that the first reports of a diatribe against Grigorieva surfaced and as his longtime agent and supporter, Ed Limato, lay on his deathbed, both of which may have been factors in the decision.


The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department also has confirmed that it is investigating the actor in a domestic abuse case. In the new recording, which will be added to evidence already being reviewed by detectives, the onetime A-lister seems to acknowledge that he hit Grigorieva, the mother of his child, when he responds to her mention of him hitting her by saying, "you … deserved it."

Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore said the investigation would not be affected by Gibson's celebrity. "First of all there was no favoritism last time [referring to the 2006 Malibu incident]. There is no favoritism this time," Whitmore said. "We're just doing our job." The department faced criticism after Gibson's 2006 drunk driving arrest after it was suggested that the actor's anti-Semitic comments be expunged from the arrest report.

On Monday, Gibson's publicist, Hollywood veteran Alan Nierob, said that his client had no comment on the current scandal.

It's unlikely, agents in Hollywood said, that Gibson would be signed by another powerhouse Hollywood agency given his current low stock. But at least one smaller agency casually discussed the pros and cons of signing Gibson, an agent at the company said. At a meeting on Monday, the agency's staff debated whether it was worth the bad PR that would surely accompany such a move.

Experts in crisis public relations said Gibson was in a maelstrom of trouble that would challenge the best of their craft. "He needs to find an appropriate villain in this issue, and as long as he can't put it on alcohol and drug abuse, he's going to be the villain," said Jason Maloni a strategist at the publicity agency Levick Strategic Communications.

But he also said that the actor-director's career and image were, even after several offenses, not beyond salvaging. "Mel Gibson is first and foremost an artist, and as long as he can produce great work, he'll have a way forward," Maloni said, while acknowledging a Catch-22 problem in which Gibson may need to produce good work to resurrect his public image, but it would take a resurrection of his public image before a studio would hire him to work.

Many of Gibson's allies in Hollywood have remained quiet as the controversy has mushroomed.

On Monday, representatives for Jodie Foster, Gibson's longtime friend and his director and costar in his new movie "The Beaver," said that she was in post-production and unable to comment. A spokeswoman for Graham King, the producer who worked with Gibson on his recent film "Edge of Darkness" and has been planning a Viking epic that Gibson would direct, said King was on the set of another film and was unavailable to comment.

A spokeswoman for Danny Glover, the often vocal African American actor who costarred with Gibson in the four "Lethal Weapon" movies — the franchise that, with its biracial pairing, helped shoot Gibson to the top of the action-star A-list — chose not to weigh in. "At this time, Mr. Glover does not have a comment, and there is no statement regarding Mr. Gibson." When asked if that might change, the representative responded, "The decision is that he will not [comment]."

Experts said that the muted reaction highlighted the fickle nature of Hollywood activism. Although actors often speak out on public injustices — Glover is a U.N. goodwill ambassador to developing countries and is outspoken on racial issues — they often close ranks when one of their own is concerned. "That's what Hollywood is about, isn't it? Everyone covers themselves," said film historian David Thomson.

Gibson has shown a propensity to work in recent months — he returned to acting earlier this year in the crime thriller "Edge of Darkness," which performed middlingly at the U.S. box office. He also took a role in Foster's quirky indie movie "The Beaver" as a way of casting himself in a different light and appears in "How I Spent My Summer Vacation," in which he plays a criminal who, coincidentally, tries to rehabilitate himself.

The status of both films remains in question in the wake of Monday's startlingly raw audio. The former has U.S. distribution from the standalone studio Summit Entertainment, but industry experts believe the movie could stay on the shelf rather than coming out later this year given the newly created marketing challenges. "Vacation" has distribution in some overseas markets through Gibson's own Icon international distribution label but does not yet have a studio home in the U.S. Other projects — particularly the Viking picture, in which Gibson would direct Leonardo DiCaprio in a period drama — were also thrown into question as a result of the scandal.

Gibson can continue making movies through his own Los Angeles-based Icon Productions, which finances movies outside the Hollywood system. He's also believed to be capable of financing films directly from his own pocket, given residuals on franchises such as "Lethal Weapon" and the $612-million global success of his self-financed 2004 film "The Passion of the Christ"— though a divorce from Robyn Gibson, his wife of 28 years and mother to seven of his children, and now potentially more child support payments for his and Grigorieva's infant daughter, could diminish his personal wealth.

Thomson said that although comebacks are in this country's DNA, a certain type of scandal could irrevocably ding a public figure, as he believes Woody Allen's relationship with his former girlfriend's daughter did for many of the director's female fans. And in some cases, Thomson added, the damage could be much worse. "The American public is sentimental and fond of forgiving, but it's not automatic," he said. "I don't think O.J. Simpson will ever make another movie."

How the mighty have fallen. Many of Mel's movies were not my cup of tea, but after this, I will never watch another film of his. He is one sick man. :eek: :eek: :eek:

I wonder how Danny Glover feels now? If they could only read each other's minds when they were making the Lethal Weapon movies. "Do I ever hate you!" "I hate going near you." :lol:

I wonder how Danny Glover feels now? If they could only read each other's minds when they were making the Lethal Weapon movies. "Do I ever hate you!" "I hate going near you." :lol:
Danny Glover is usually very outspoken. His no comment speaks wonders. :lol:

I think Mel Gibson has effectively black listed himself in Hollywood. :rolleyes:

Danny Glover is usually very outspoken. His no comment speaks wonders. :lol:
He was very outspoken (and helpful) here in Cleveland over the past few months to keep the Hugo Boss plant from moving overseas, thus saving many people's jobs. So yes, his silence speaks volumes!!!

Danny Glover is usually very outspoken. His no comment speaks wonders. :lol:
You're right. The fact that all of Mel's so called friends have no comment on this issue really does speak volumes!

I think Mel Gibson has effectively black listed himself in Hollywood. :rolleyes:
:yeahthat

Mel is cleary looney tunes on top of all the other correct characterizations. It seems to be unanimous that yes, his career is now in the crapper. As far as I'm concerned goodbye and good riddance - never thought he was all that to begin with.

As for Whoppi, she always calls them right. (ha ha) NOT

Does anyone take Whoopi seriously, anyway?? :crazy:

Whoopi do shut up! Racists are good at covering up. If he was at your house when his career was going good, he wasn't going to do anything to eff that up.

Ugh I HATE when people defend racists

Whoopi's probably just in denial.When it's revealed that people we know and care about aren't who we thought they were, it can be difficult to admit that.

Whoopi's probably just in denial.When it's revealed that people we know and care about aren't who we thought they were, it can be difficult to admit that.

I agree, since he is a friend of hers. It seems like it could be hard to believe something like that about your friend, especially if you never saw them in that way. It's also the only reason I can think of as to why Jodie Foster would have recently worked with him!

Nuts or not, I still enjoy his movies and will still watch his movies

As for Whoppi, she always calls them right. (ha ha) NOT
LOL, tru dat. I remember when Whoopi said that it wasn't "rape, rape" with Roman Polanski, despite the fact that he was convicted of drugging a 13-year old and sodomizing her (sorry). Sarah Palin is the enemy to Whoppi.

LOL, tru dat. I remember when Whoopi said that it wasn't "rape, rape" with Roman Polanski, despite the fact that he was convicted of drugging a 13-year old and sodomizing her (sorry).

That was a really stupid argument. I almost couldn't believe it. Her argument was that the girl consented to it, and there's no way a 13-year old can legally consent to that.

Nuts or not, I still enjoy his movies and will still watch his movies


Interesting side question here.

Can you continue to enjoy an artist's (or anyone's) work if you don't like them personally?

I think it depends on the level of knowledge we have about the person in question and the veracity of the source. In some cases, I think if the information is sketchy and subjective enough we can all kind of "decide to deny" any chance that the person is not to our liking and go right ahead enjoying their work. I have always liked William Shatner, for instance, but I've read he's been cold to his co-stars, self aggrandizing, etc. I read Adam West's book and he comes off as quite a shameless womanizer, but I still can watch his work and not have that on my mind.

In this case, the evidence of Gibson's outright villainy is pretty undeniable. The tapes speak for themselves. It's right in our faces every day; loud, vulgar and extremely ugly.

And the severity of the sin involved matters, too. Womanizing or even something like being greedy or intermittently rude to fans is one thing; this goes WAY beyond that.

Personally, I don't think I'll be able to watch his work again without thinking of one of his horrible tirades.

David Stern shoulda given HIM the $100,000 fine.

David Stern shoulda given HIM the $100,000 fine.
:rofl:

That's awful that he beat his wife. He needs to serve time in prison. He sounds like an awful person.

That was a really stupid argument. I almost couldn't believe it. Her argument was that the girl consented to it, and there's no way a 13-year old can legally consent to that.
EXACTLY!!!

the reason that noboddy has heard from mel since these tapes came out is because he has been looking for the extra large fork to stick in himself because he is done and he knows it

the reason that noboddy has heard from mel since these tapes came out is because he has been looking for the extra large fork to stick in himself because he is done and he knows it
:yeahthat

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tzgames/md_horiz1.jpg

^ Charles, I couldn't have put it better myself!! :clap :clap :clap

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tzgames/md_horiz1.jpg
Now that's what I call justice!! :lol:

http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo283/tzgames/md_horiz1.jpg

To paraphrase Chief Martin Brody from "Jaws"..."I think you're gonna need a bigger bar..." ;)

he's probably just going to hide under his big white sheet until this whole thing blows over.

Plus, he's gone from looking like this:

http://reneeashleybaker.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/mel-gibson.jpg?w=450

To this:

http://ewpopwatch.files.wordpress.com/2006/07/102757__gibson_l.jpg

Ouch!!! :eek:

Danny Glover is usually very outspoken. His no comment speaks wonders. :lol:
He really is gettin too old for this ****

To paraphrase Chief Martin Brody from "Jaws"..."I think you're gonna need a bigger bar..." ;)
:rofl:

And get this.I heard on HLN that his ex-wife ACTUALLY stuck uip for him,defending him.Isn't that weird?

That's true - I found it bizarre myself, but that's Hollywood for you!! :eek: :crazy:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/15/mel-gibson-robyn-gibson-declaration-domestic-violence-court-filed/


While it doesn't seem like Mel Gibson has too many supporters as of late, his soon-to-be ex-wife Robyn is coming to the defense of the actor. According to TMZ.com, the woman married to Gibson for 28 years wrote a sworn declaration on behalf of the actor, saying that he was never abusive to her or their children during their time together.

"Mel never engaged in any physical abuse of any kind toward me before, during or after our marriage," Robyn states in the one-page declaration filed in court on Thursday, adding that he is a "wonderful and loving father" to their seven children.

Robyn filed for divorce last year, but she is certainly painting a very different picture of the man that has been in the news for the past few weeks. While Gibson is currently being investigated for domestic abuse claims made by his ex-girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva -- with whom he is in a custody battle over their 8 1/2-month-old daughter, Lucia -- Robyn's statement could be very helpful in Mel's case. It could also support the claims that those disturbing recordings of the Oscar winner threatening Grigorieva were tampered with.

I honestly don't believe those tapes were tampered with. That's desperation from Mel and his merry band of idiots

His ex-wife is stupid, he cheated on her for heaven's sakes. Just because he may not have been like that with her, doesn't mean something couldn't have happened to trigger it. Happens all the time with people.

Wow, I heard the tapes on Entertaiment Tonight (from last week). They're awful.

Wow, I heard the tapes on Entertaiment Tonight (from last week). They're awful.
They are - awful and scary. ohno:

And all the bad language. ohno:

And all the bad language. ohno:
Yes - didn't they have to beep out every other word of those tapes on TV? :eek: