View Full Version : Why Did Esther Rolle leave the show...


mimi75042
07-11-2010, 09:54 AM
What caused her to leave the show also?

TVFactFan
07-11-2010, 11:50 AM
What caused her to leave the show also?


The role of J.J not improving

Retro4Life
07-11-2010, 12:56 PM
Yeah I read that she was frustrated by J.J.'s increasingly unethical schemes to make money and the increased focus upon his character.

TVFactFan
07-11-2010, 01:14 PM
Yeah I read that she was frustrated by J.J.'s increasingly unethical schemes to make money and the increased focus upon his character.



I wouldn't have cared who was the star as along as I still had a job and able to maintain my lifestyle and pay my bills.

Retro4Life
07-11-2010, 01:29 PM
I wouldn't have cared who was the star as along as I still had a job and able to maintain my lifestyle and pay my bills.

Well, my feeling is that Rolle's objection was on a moral basis. Some people feel that no amount of money or comfort is worth compromising their principles, and apparently Rolle felt by staying on she was implicitly endorsing J.J.s shadiness, so she left.

Dr. Thong
07-11-2010, 03:13 PM
I believe that John Amos shared similar sentiments about J.J.'s character as well.

Retro4Life
07-11-2010, 05:00 PM
I believe that John Amos shared similar sentiments about J.J.'s character as well.

Yeah, that's what I heard, too.

Dr. Thong
07-11-2010, 05:06 PM
The difference between Rolle and Amos, however, is that Amos was fired and Rolle left. Although, back in the seventies, it was said that Amos had left.

Retro4Life
07-11-2010, 05:09 PM
The difference between Rolle and Amos, however, is that Amos was fired and Rolle left. Although, back in the seventies, it was said that Amos had left.

Hmm. Wikipedia says he quit, but I know that's not always a reliable source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Amos

Dr. Thong
07-11-2010, 05:20 PM
I believe it was on E! or one of those shows, where it was disclosed that Amos was fired because of the remarks he made in the press. But the show's producers told the press that it was Amos's decision to leave to put a better public face on it.

glickmam
07-11-2010, 09:21 PM
I believe it was on E! or one of those shows, where it was disclosed that Amos was fired because of the remarks he made in the press. But the show's producers told the press that it was Amos's decision to leave to put a better public face on it.

Of course, if I was in William S. Paley's shoes at the time, I would have ordered the producers to bring him back and I would have fired and blacklisted them as well.

glickmam
07-12-2010, 10:39 PM
In addition, if I had been either an audience or crew member at that time, I would have gotten into a brawl with Austin and Irma Kalish and Allen Manings (the producers responsible for John Amos' removal).

Dr. Thong
07-13-2010, 06:21 PM
Let's not forget, however, that Norman Lear probably had the final say. Lear may not have been as involved on the production end, but Good Times was produced by his company and I imagine that the producers would have to have consulted with him before making such a move.

glickmam
07-13-2010, 08:40 PM
Let's not forget, however, that Norman Lear probably had the final say. Lear may not have been as involved on the production end, but Good Times was produced by his company and I imagine that the producers would have to have consulted with him before making such a move.

Well then, if that's the case I'll get in a fight with him instead.

Dr. Thong
07-14-2010, 07:03 PM
Well then, if that's the case I'll get in a fight with him instead.

So you want to beat up an 87 year old man over something that happened on a TV show over 30 years ago??

Riiiight.

ThomasE
07-30-2010, 11:59 PM
So you want to beat up an 87 year old man over something that happened on a TV show over 30 years ago??

Riiiight.

I'm assuming that he would have provided the butt whipping 34 years back. LOL.

liane49
04-26-2013, 11:47 AM
Well, my feeling is that Rolle's objection was on a moral basis. Some people feel that no amount of money or comfort is worth compromising their principles, and apparently Rolle felt by staying on she was implicitly endorsing J.J.s shadiness, so she left.
Why did Ester come back?

TVFactFan
04-26-2013, 03:23 PM
Why did Ester come back?


Norman lear begged her to come back after he saw ratings after season 5. So he gave her a cake and flowers and she decided to come back. and he promised JJ wouldn't be a clown like he was in the past.