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Besides Empty Nest, I forgot what episode it was but it is the episode where they meet the President, very boring episode

I HATED the Empty Nest episode. What a bore!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZ...

I HATED the Empty Nest episode. What a bore!!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZ...
That's why the original premise of Empty Nest was completely re-vamped before it premiered as a series. That version sucked.

And I think its the single worst episode of GG, because the girls only appear in the opening scene.

That's why the original premise of Empty Nest was completely re-vamped before it premiered as a series. That version sucked.

And I think its the single worst episode of GG, because the girls only appear in the opening scene.
Revamping it was the best thing they could've done. No way would that episode translate into a successful series.

That's why the original premise of Empty Nest was completely re-vamped before it premiered as a series. That version sucked.

And I think its the single worst episode of GG, because the girls only appear in the opening scene.


I would have to agree on that one...but otherwise my definitive answer would be NONE!! :) :)

Empty Nest and the Cheeseman ep

Basically, all the flashback episodes are the worst for me....including that dreadful Golden Moments.

Empty Nest is extremely close behind, simply because who cares about their neighbors?!

i kinda hate the episode where Sophi and Max get married.

I didn't like the Dorothy is chronically episodes. Boring to me. And I didn't like the one where the woman is dying and tries to fix Sophia up with her husband.

Now that you mention it, the one with the woman fixing Sophia up with her husband, was pretty bizarre.

Now that you mention it, the one with the woman fixing Sophia up with her husband, was pretty bizarre.

It was morbid. I watch GG for yuks -- no yuks in that one.

Did you know, and I for the longest time didn't, that the 2 part "Dorothy is Chronologically Tired" episodes are based on GG creator real-life experience?

Susan Harris, who created GG also wrote a couple of the early episodes, and then wasn't as involved with GG because of chronic fatique.

I completely forgot about the cheeseman episode.

I thought the Miles and the Cheeseman storyline was pretty funny. But after the episode when Miles came back and it was determined he was free and clear, I think that's the last we saw of him, until The Golden Palace, where he returned again, engaged to another woman. That sucked. Poor sweet Rose!

Empty Nest. I want the four musketeers. not their neighBORES.

i have a few that bore me to tears:

dorothy with chronic fatique syndrome
sophia and max's 2 part episodes
blanche's brother being gay episodes

When Dorothy goes to audition for Jeopardy and the dream sequence it entails. I did not like this episode at all.

The episode where Dorothy has an affair with a married man. We are supposed to root for the GG, but coudn't in this one.

The episode where Rose, Dorothy, Blanche face their fears. This is one that sounded better on paper.

The episode where Sophia buys a Cuban boxer. This one you knew was going to be bad just from the description.

"Little Sister" is the episode I hate more than any other. It was just not good at all, with the girls not believing Rose and taking her sisters side over her. Not a good episode at all.

"Empty Nest" was another one I didn't care for. I agree with the poster above that said they want to see the girls and not their neighbors.

I completely forgot about the "Little Sister" episode. I hate that one for the same reason mentioned and there aren't that many episodes that I outright hate. There is a difference between hating an episode and being bored by an episode.

the one where they go on grab that dough and the mickey rooney one

Empty Nest
First thing that popped in my head. I hated that episode. Didn't even feel like the same show at all.

The Mickey Rooney episode wasn't great but I can't say I hated it. The diary part of the episode was kinda silly though.

The one with Blanche's verbally abusive boyfriend.NOBODY(Man or Woman) should be talked to like that.

In the episode with Blanche's verbally abusive boyfriend, the second plot where Rose & Miles try to spice up their relationship is funny.

There are several episodes where the second plot overshadows the main plot.

It's the same scenario in the episode with Blanche's overweight daughter Rebecca which was very mean-spirited. The second plot with Sophia challenging her teen boss is funny.

The one with Blanche's verbally abusive boyfriend.NOBODY(Man or Woman) should be talked to like that.Yes,I agree.I forgot to add :The subplot was ,indeed funny.And you're right.That subplot DID overshadow the main plot;which WASN'T very good,(but Blanche DID see the light,when her verbally abusive boyfriend tried to do the same thing verbally abusing Dorothy,who REALLY gave him what for)

In the episode with Blanche's verbally abusive boyfriend, the second plot where Rose & Miles try to spice up their relationship is funny.

There are several episodes where the second plot overshadows the main plot.

It's the same scenario in the episode with Blanche's overweight daughter Rebecca which was very mean-spirited. The second plot with Sophia challenging her teen boss is funny.
My favorite single moment on Golden Girls is the look on Sophia's face when she answers the door and sees Rebecca. That and Rose's, "Sorry, we just didn't think you'd be so fat." part.

And I didn't care for any of the flashback episodes(although the one segment in one rather boring flashback episode about cakes,where Rose takes Dorothy to see "Mr.HaHa,the clown",WAS funny.When Dorothy is going to throw a cream pie at Mr.Ha Ha ,Mr.Ha Ha warns her that the bandleader's cousin is Mr.Lawyer,and says "Besides it's not the adult thing to do"Dorothy doesn't do it.Then a little 6-year old boy DOES-by hitting Mr.HaHa in the face with a cream pie.He then says "Happy Birthday,Dorothy".Dorothy smiles.This ,as I said,was the bright spot in a rather dull and boring flashback episode.about cakes.ANOTHER not very good flashback episode was when the President came to visit.The ONLY really good part about the episode,was when the President (voice only)came to call,and Dorothy,all set to tell him about the education problem,got a case of stage fright the end).

There are several episodes where the second plot overshadows the main plot.
I agree with you there, Dianne. Many episodes were saved by an excellent b plot.

As for episodes I hate, I agree with most people about the clip show episodes and Empty Nests. I also disliked Mister Terrific and Letter to Gorbachev. The Commitments, with the Beatles impersonator, was also rather irritating.

In the episode with Blanche's verbally abusive boyfriend, the second plot where Rose & Miles try to spice up their relationship is funny.

There are several episodes where the second plot overshadows the main plot.

It's the same scenario in the episode with Blanche's overweight daughter Rebecca which was very mean-spirited. The second plot with Sophia challenging her teen boss is funny.
I agree with this, I hated that Rex guy he was just horrible and so was Rebecca's fiance.

I hated the whole Dorothy and Stan rekindle their relationship arc in the 6th season--only to have Stan appear to be a total yutz by asking Dorothy to sign pre-nups. To me it makes that season a waste and makes Stan almost unredeemable as a character.

Seems like there is alot of people judging the characters in the episodes, rather then the episode itself.

When I started the thread, I didn't mean who was the "worst" person in the series, like Rex or Jeremy (Rebecca's fiancee). I meant, what episodes are not funny and/or doesn't do any justice for the girls.

I really dislike Season 6. There are alot of bad episodes that season, espeically the one where Dorothy helps a man come out his apartment, which he hasn't been out of since the 60s. Yeah...right.

And another bad one was where the girls went to a psychiatrist,and how they(Blanche,Dorothy and Sophia),instead of revealing her good points,ganged up on poor Rose .Another bad clip show.And the "Empty Nests" episode showed very little promise,despite the Girls being there in some scenes,and I'm glad Susan Harris retooled it,and one of the worst things about it,was David Leisure's obnoxious (very)neighbor.Later,Lesiure changed the character for "Empty Nest",and became at least fairly likable.

And I remember when the series first aired,it was called by NBC "Miami Nice"and it ,for the most part,was,and had some spice to it.But the "Empty Nests"episode had very little spice to it,and could be termed as "Miami Bland",because that's what it was-bland and uninteresting.

"Empty Nests" is everybody's least favorite episode! It shouldn't even be considered a Golden Girls episode since they were hardly in it!

I don't really think of the flashbacks as true "episodes." They can be rather enjoyable at times. The only thing I hate about the flashback ones are that they show a couple of seconds of a funny clip, then a 10 minute clip of something that wasn't great.

But as far as episodes, I hate the "Empty Nest" as much as anyone else. I tend to hate those episodes that aren't true to the characters that we had come to know and love.

I would never think Dorothy would fall for some Beatles impersonator, and no man would ever control Blanche and she wouldn't take his attitude. Neither woman would do those things.

Also, everybody was much more concerned about one another when the show started. It seemed in the later years, everyone was more insulting to each other.

I don't really think of the flashbacks as true "episodes." They can be rather enjoyable at times. The only thing I hate about the flashback ones are that they show a couple of seconds of a funny clip, then a 10 minute clip of something that wasn't great.

But as far as episodes, I hate the "Empty Nest" as much as anyone else. I tend to hate those episodes that aren't true to the characters that we had come to know and love.

I would never think Dorothy would fall for some Beatles impersonator, and no man would ever control Blanche and she wouldn't take his attitude. Neither woman would do those things.

Also, everybody was much more concerned about one another when the show started. It seemed in the later years, everyone was more insulting to each other.
The thing with the flashback episodes-- sometimes they were scenes from previous episodes, which are a waste, but sometimes, the flashbacks were new material, like the "Mother's Day" themed when we met Alice Ghostly as Dorothy's mother-in-law, and Blanche's mother in a rest home. And the flashbacks with Sophia & Sal in Brooklyn are sometimes fun.

Interesting.... I actually liked the Empty Nest episode (although not a favorite) simply because one of my favorite actresses guest starred. (Rita Moreno) I have loved her since the 60's when she starred in West Side Story. :biglove: I agree, though, that it was odd that the GG themselves were so scarce!

And the "Sick and Tired" episode also gave us the subplot of Blanche attempting to become a "great Southern writer." :D During which her insomnia caused her to see the "little balls of sunshine" in a plastic bag! One of my all-time favorite scenes. :rotflmao:

I hated the plotline of Rose being molested by her Dentist. Awful....and as a poster above said, I'm not watching GG to see stuff like that featured. :rolleyes: I watch for the yucks! ;)

Speaking of David Leisure: Isn't it interesting how an obnoxious, unlikeable character like "Oliver" can actually make you respect and like the actor who plays him? I hated his character, of course. But you have to admit, David did a terrific job of making us hate him! :lol:

I like "Empty Nests" too :) It actually has some of the funniest lines the girls ever had (Rose getting naked for the veterinarian is hilarious).

If you watch Rita Moreno's interview at the Emmy TV Legends web site though, she details the whole experience of this episode and how awful it was. She's so great, I'm really sorry that the writing wasn't there for her and that she had such a bad time.

"Three on a Couch" (why wasn't it four?) is pretty good for a vignette show. When Rose says, "literally, it's the precise moment when dog dew turns white.." Classic. Of the vignettes themselves, the first two are the best.

The later seasons were not as strong as the earlier ones, so I can't really pinpoint the worst of those right now.

There were episodes in every season that I loved, and some that I didn't care for. I can't pinpoint any year that I would designate "best" or "worst". To me, it varied from episode to episode, not from season to season.

I did tend to not like the episodes with Stanley in them, because his character was so unlikeable. I thought Herb Edelman did a great job of playing him; I just didn't like Stanley the character. And I hated the story arc where Dorothy almost remarried him. She went from consistently being openly hostile to him, to sleeping with and almost remarrying him in very short order. Just didn't make sense to me. :rolleyes:

I guess the President's Coming and Empty Nest would be my two worst even though they werent THAT bad?

"Empty Nests" is everybody's least favorite episode! It shouldn't even be considered a Golden Girls episode since they were hardly in it!
yeah, thats definitely the worst one!:mad:

the episode with Blanche's overweight daughter Rebecca which was very mean-spirited.
Sophia was also a mean, cruel hag to Blanche's daughter. Remember? She asks: "So you're Blanche's daughter, the model? What did you model? Car covers"? What a freaking bitch! Sophia could be really mean a lot of times.

Sophia was also a mean, cruel hag to Blanche's daughter. Remember? She asks: "So you're Blanche's daughter, the model? What did you model? Car covers"? What a freaking bitch! Sophia could be really mean a lot of times.
:yeahthat

I agree. As much as I cherish the show, I truly think the writers took Sophia's meanness much too far on multiple occasions. Much like they took Rose's "naïveté much too far. She was supposed to be naïve....not mentally ********. :eek:

Hmm, I always find something to enjoy in EVERY episode, but Mister Terrific is pretty terrible. Also, Miles To Go/Witness? I mean c'mon now! The cheeseman? Miles in the witness protection program? Him not being a professor? I thought the whole idea was terrible and was only used to spice up Season 6, which I actually enjoy now that I've nearly rewatched the whole series. The President's Coming, The President's Coming is also pretty bad- I don't dislike the flashback episodes as much as some of you do on here, but it was such a thin concept that could have been more interesting if it wasn't just tacked on to make ANOTHER flashback episode. Anybody know if they wanted the real President Bush to come on the show and tried to do so?

I actually find Blanche's family to be the most interesting one of all the girls(I've never understood why we only got to see two of Rose's children and never got to see Charlie in Flashbacks either! And not even seeing St. Olaf? Cmon now!) and I wish there had been more to all of the characters, especially for Blanche's mother and sisters as well as her songs. The plot of Vacation is rather thin(and the subplot with Sophia is just too random) - They could have come up with something much funnier for the girls going on a vacation. Still, not an unenjoyable one. I've never really liked Twas The Nightmare Before Christmas- It's funny, but too awkward with that whole Santa Claus holdup thing, lol. And I personally agreed with Sophia's opinion about Christmas in the episode- Real gifts from the shopping mall are so much better then the homemade ones they end up giving to each other lol. Bedtime Story has some funny bits(the Rose bothering Blanche is the best one), but that bed sequence when they're all in bed together? Gosh, that was repeated in EVERY flashback episode. Forgive Me Father is one that isn't bad, but not one of the best, it's a little dry, could have been funnier. John McMartin's performance was a little too straight laced if you ask me.

People may completely disagree with me, but Empty Nest is actually somewhat enjoyable and refreshing after you see it the first time, where it really is a complete WTF were they thinking episode?

For Season 3, Old Friends gets a little bit too serious and sad for me for GG's standards, but that Teddybear subplot? HILARIOUS!!! Golden Moments is an unfairly hated flashback episode- I get why people don't like them, but GM actually has more of a direct purpose in showing the flashbacks that they show and the real time scenes are quite strong IMO. Larceny And Old Lace could have used some more development with the whole Roco thing and Mickey Rooney turns in a lousy performance, but it's not as bad as some say. The pig diary thing is HILIARIOUS to me. Rose's Big Adventure is really just too similar to other episodes(mainly Rose The Prude) and the subplot is terrible(Though Sophia's Italian friend wrings some laughs).

I've always liked Season 4 a lot, but it may be the best season to me right now. Some clunkers though are definitely The Days And Nights Of Sophia Petrillo: it's completely random and incredibly frustrating to watch the girls completely label Sophia as becoming dull and inactive when she is anything but. Yokel Hero is pretty funny and a good episode overall, but WHY OH WHY COULDN'T WE SEE ST. Olaf? And I've seen it too many times. Brother, Can You Spare That Jacket? is preachy, but it's a well written episode that makes it's point well. Fiddler On The Ropes has to be one of the worst episodes for me- Just completely WTF!! Foreign Exchange has always been to sad for me to watch because it is upsetting that Dorothy may not(and probably wasn't?) Sophia's biological daughter, though it isn't a bad episode. We're Outta Here and Rites Of Spring are examples of Flashback episodes that I really enjoy(Especially that Beauty Parlor sequence! Oh lord, that's hilarious!!).

Foreign Exchange bothered me because, despite the medical test results that Sophia tore up, it was obvious that she was not Dorothy's biological mother. Who wanted to learn that???? :(

I must admit, however, that the scene where Gina walked in looking much closer to Sophia's height and with big glasses and a straw purse over her arm was very funny. :lol:

I feel exactly the same way, eerie huh?!

LOL, :eek:

I just noticed something. I'm labeled as a "Frequent Poster" (true) and you are labeled as "Occasional Poster" :wave:

Better catch up with me GGFan51 :lol:

the one where they go on the game show and that ep with mickey rooney are my picks for the 2 worst

"the one where they go on the game show"

Oh, now see, "Grab That Dough" is one of my favorites! Winning a large cash prize and then losing it to an electric skillet due to Blanche's greed was hilarious. :lol: I definitely agree with you about the Mickey Rooney episode however. Lame. Just lame. :rolleyes:

Foreign Exchange bothered me because, despite the medical test results that Sophia tore up, it was obvious that she was not Dorothy's biological mother. Who wanted to learn that???? :(

I must admit, however, that the scene where Gina walked in looking much closer to Sophia's height and with big glasses and a straw purse over her arm was very funny. :lol:

There is an episode, "Mother's Day," in season 3 where Bea Arthur plays her grandmother in a flashback, so there is that family resemblance to fall back on.

I'm watching the series in order right now, and there is a big drop off in quality towards the end of season three. So far I would say that "Larceny and Old Lace," and "Mister Terrific" are the worst, but really the last episodes in season 3 are not very entertaining at all.

Personally I didn't like the episode where President Bush came to visit the house.

Also I know The Golden Palace sucked as an entire show but the part I hated the most was the episode where Miles and Rose broke up because he found another woman. I mean seriously we're supposed to believe that after the couple was going steady for so many seasons? That's why I like to pretend like The Golden Palace never happened.

I sort of "semi agree" with you, Cheesecake101. I will always like Golden Girls better than Golden Palace, but I do enjoy most episodes of GP,

However, I so agree about the one where Miles just up and marries Nanette Fabray. What the begeezus were they thinking? Showing a sweet woman like Rose crying while watching him take his vows? Was that supposed to make us laugh? :rolleyes:

Lol I think that was the whole reason I hated The Golden Palace. It seemed so unfair to Rose to write Miles out of the show in such an awful way. I didn't like how they got rid of Stan either.

Yes, Stan's "departure" was weird. Just weird. :rolleyes:

I think my least favorite episode of all was the one where Dorothy's brother Phil died. Not only was the subject matter too sad to lend itself to humor, it showed Sophia at her worst. Being petty and cruel toward Phil's recently widowed wife over a stupid dowry issue. Nothing in that episode made me laugh. :(

Personally I didn't like the episode where President Bush came to visit the house.

Also I know The Golden Palace sucked as an entire show but the part I hated the most was the episode where Miles and Rose broke up because he found another woman. I mean seriously we're supposed to believe that after the couple was going steady for so many seasons? That's why I like to pretend like The Golden Palace never happened.esp since miles excuse for seeing another woman was that rose had moved all the way across town well whoop dee do i know miles was a cheapskate but he coul have taken a taxi out and back to see rose once in awhile

Didn't somebody leave the show (one of the girls)?

If so, then that was the worst episode.

"Three on a Couch" (why wasn't it four?)

Because we don't count Sophia. It's the other three that are fed up living with each other; Sophia is just a live-in bystander to it all, lol.


Didn't somebody leave the show (one of the girls)?

Not during the series, no, but the series finale was Dorothy's wedding and at the very end she moved out.


Foreign Exchange bothered me because, despite the medical test results that Sophia tore up, it was obvious that she was not Dorothy's biological mother. Who wanted to learn that???? :(

It's not obvious, it could just be a heavy coincidence. Besides, we see in one of the vignette episodes that Dorothy grew up to look like Sophia's mother, so she is indeed Sophia's daughter. That's what I choose to believe. Maybe some fans choose to believe Dorothy was the other Italian couple's daughter (I never liked the premise of that episode anyway, because I believe Dorothy is Sophia's; they even recast Gloria later in the series to make her tall and husky-voiced like Bea).

And amongst a lot of negativity here (I know, it's that kind of thread, lol), I like the vignette episodes. :)

I didn't like the flashback episodes, which GG had too many of. Those episodes were basically reruns, repackaged as new episodes.

I didn't like the flashback episodes, which GG had too many of. Those episodes were basically reruns, repackaged as new episodes.

I see this is sadly a prominent opinion around here. I like the flashback episodes. After all, grandmothers and great aunts love to tell stories and reminisce on funny things they've told and retold, so it seems cozily fitting to me for these old ladies to reminisce and retell stories to share again and again. :)

"I didn't like the flashback episodes"
"I like the flashback episodes"

I'm somewhere in between. I love the flashback episodes where they show us things that we haven't seen before. Like the Valentine's Day episode. The Mother's Day episode. The "Rites of Spring" episode. The episode where they're trying to make money, etc. All of those gave us new stuff to watch.

But it can be kind of tiring to watch the ones where they show scenes we've seen before in previous episodes. Like Bedtime Story, the one where Sophia is going to live with Phil, or the one where Blanche was considering selling the house. They did do too many of those "look back" episodes, I must admit. Even "The President's Coming" was primarily flashbacks. :sleep2:

Yeah, there are the "vignette" episodes, which are all new material flashing on memories we haven't seen before, and then there are the "flashbacks" which show clips from previous shows.

And I still can't believe Blanche felt that she couldn't have sold shares of her house to the girls. I mean, really?

"And I still can't believe Blanche felt that she couldn't have sold shares of her house to the girls. I mean, really?"

Well, in real life, it could create problems down the line. For instance, selling the house would be more complicated, because all four of them would have to agree to do it, and on what they would accept.

To me, the logical thing to do in real life would be to put all their names on the mortgage for a token "sale price' of a dollar each or something, and then Blanche would still retain complete control of the house legally, and be entitled to make any and all decisions about it.

But it was very unrealistic for Blanche to tell the girls "now you have equity" without any mention of them putting any money into buying the house. That situation made no sense to me.

What gets me though is when she claims, "I just could never sell it---not even to you!" Really? Not even to your closest friends who have lived in that house for years? Women you consider your sisters and your mother? It was like the house was so sentimental she couldn't even consider selling it to her closest friends whom she considers family. It's a darn good thing she changed her mind by episode's end, otherwise that could be unforgivable to fans, lol.

It's possible that the issue of selling the house factored into the failure of The Golden Palace, although I'm sure the absence of Dorothy was the primary problem.

The notion that the three of them would suddenly decide to leave their beloved home and buy a hotel, which they would have to work hard to run at their advanced age, was so silly it just didn't ring true.....even in the context of a sit-com. Presumably, the house was paid for, so no mortgage to worry about. They all had their own bedrooms, had a history there, enjoyed the area they lived in, etc. Leaving such an ideal situation would have been a bigger deal than they reflected in the dialogue of the pilot episode.

I will always admit there were episodes of The Golden Palace I liked. I paid $30 to have them on DVD, and I don't regret it. But the basic concept for the show was rather silly, at best.

I also didn't care for the episode in season one where Rose dates a man who complains of impotence. It was just plain "yucky" to me when they suddenly said "check please" and left a restaurant because he apparently got magically "cured". :rolleyes:

Then he immediately dumped her because now he could go back to his wife. Who thought up that story line anyway? :rolleyes:

I also didn't care for the episode in season one where Rose dates a man who complains of impotence. It was just plain "yucky" to me when they suddenly said "check please" and left a restaurant because he apparently got magically "cured". :rolleyes:

Then he immediately dumped her because now he could go back to his wife. Who thought up that story line anyway? :rolleyes:
Ernie was a sleezeball. Glad rose gave him back his manhood though. "IF he can find it he can have it."

Hate the episode where Blanche finds out she had a jewish grandmother. A lot of the episodes were nothing but propaganda from the jewish writers like when they inputted anti-White jokes like Rose saying all her family can be traced back to the same brother and sister. Or Dorothy saying, "Isn't there a cousin you should be dating?" jews were the ones marrying cousins when their numbers were down.

The three worst episodes all have a heavy influence from Susan Harris:

1. The President's Coming was just a way for Susan Harris to show her disdain for President Bush.

2. Sick and Tired was based on the real life fatigue issue that Harris had.

3. Empty Nests was meant to be a spin-off for a Susan Harris creation.

I also did not care for the Sick and Tired 2 part episode. I also hate the show where Sophia's friend wants to commit suicide.

There are so many in the last 2 seasons that I don't care for.

My all time least favorite is the 2 part Moonlight Madness party. Talk about a weak script and running out of things to write about and good grief its a 2 parter. The people at the party we never saw before. Sophia has some weird curse. Dorothy betrays Rose and kisses Niles. Its all so dumb

I agree with an earlier post that said the Empty Nest show is so bad its sort of good. We know none of these characters and the writers spend too much time trying to make them funny instead of introducing them. When Sophia does this big fake laugh about Mr Fix it, its so bad its funny to laugh at. Also when Dorothy confronts the neighbor about peeing in their pool that they dont have LOL. In an earlier season and episode Sophia complains that they are the only house in the neighborhood without a pool.

For me, these are hands-down the worst Golden Girls episodes. These are the ones I tend not to watch when they come on TV. In fact, when these episodes come on the TV, I change the channel. If I had a GG DVD collection, I would skip these:

- Brotherly Love - Stan, his brother Ted, and Dorothy - all three of them behaving poorly. Stan and Ted behaved despicably, and Dorothy stoops to their level.

- The Impotence of Being Ernest - I completely agree with the people who thought that this was one of the worst GG episodes.

- Grab That Dough - Rather than being funny, it was tedious and aggravating, from their misadventures on the way to the studio to the jerk TV host to the winners' booby prizes. (Not every misadventures episode is a success - not like "Vacation" - which IMO was one of the Golden Girls' funniest.)

- Zborn Again - The rekindling of Stan and Dorothy's romance (yawn). The subplot with Rose having difficulty with an annoying coworker, especially when Sophia thoughtlessly and carelessly sets up Rose to get into trouble - by telling off and insulting the coworker supposedly on Rose's behalf - minutes before the coworker is promoted to being Rose's supervisor. I don't like this one at all.

- Sophia's Wedding (Parts 1 and 2) - Sophia hates her late husband's best friend and business partner for over 40 years. Then when she learns that the friend/business partner was covering for Sophia's husband, Sophia jumps into bed with him and decides that she's in love with him within days. The next day, Sophia decides to get married to this fellow? Ugh. This two-part episode turned Sophia's character into a stupid and capricious woman. Going from hating a man to having sex with him and deciding she's in love with him and rushing into a marriage all within a few days. Sophia is in her eighties. She's not a teenage girl. However, this is not an instance of senility. This is downright lunacy and sheer idiocy. One stupid storyline. They marry without really knowing each other and without really loving each other, and then they decide not to end their marriage and to just separate - after realizing that their getting married was a mistake.
What the hell were the writers thinking?

- There Goes the Bride (Parts 1 and 2) - Dorothy planning to remarry Stan, after all the misery and heartache that he had put her through, and with her knowing what kind of a person Stan is.

- The Monkey Show (Parts 1 and 2) - Stan was always an arrogant, selfish cad of questionable moral character. However, he's been painted into a corner - having been turned into a dirty male slut, fornicating with every woman he can. Having sex with his ex-wife's sister. There are some lines that you just do not cross. In the end of this two-part episode, he was even bragging and smirking about having had sex with both Dorothy and her sister Gloria - after which Gloria (who regretted it) recognized that Stan was a "pig". Even worse was Sophia - who should know better - encouraging Stan and Gloria's affair and trying to pair them off as a couple.
What a load of horse manure.

- "Ebb Tide VI: The Wrath of Stan" (the slumlord episode) - It's bad enough that Rose with her journalistic project got Dorothy and Stan into trouble with their apartment building. It's even worse with Dorothy and Stan being sentenced to live together in the slum building. This half-hour of mudslinging and barb-throwing between Dorothy and Stan is not funny or charming or endearing, it's tiresome and not at all entertaining. It's one of the worst Dorothy-and-Stan episodes that GG has ever produced.

- "Where's Charlie?" - Sophia playing a sick, cruel joke on Rose - by pretending to be the ghost of Rose's late husband talking to her, and meddling with Rose's personal life by manipulating her into (temporarily) breaking up with Miles. The subplot is stupid too: Blanche's baseball player boyfriend wearing women's underwear for training, and then dressing like a woman at the end of the episode, followed by Blanche dumping him, for which I don't blame her.
For years, part of me wondered if the boyfriend started dressing in women's clothes at the end - deliberately hoping that Blanche would break up with him, as a shady and underhanded ploy.
Either way that subplot was stupid and not funny. The main plot was not funny either.

- "Love Me Tender" - To be absolutely clear, I think it's OK and wonderful for a man and a woman to be attracted to each other even if either of them is not conventionally attractive or handsome or beautiful or gorgeous.
However, it was a bit much for Rose, Blanche, and Dorothy to all be carrying on about how hot and sexy John Fiedler's character was - and to be wailing, shrieking, and squealing about it like a bunch of teenage girls in heat. That was way too much, much too over the top - even for The Golden Girls.
This episode could have been funny and actually entertaining - if the women didn't exaggerate or over-act their attraction to the Fiedler character. As far as acting goes, less would have been more - in this instance.
This is the only GG episode where I have seen any over-acting or anything resembling over-acting.

- "The Mangiacavallo Curse Makes a Lousy Wedding Present" - It was boring to see Sophia quarreling with Howard Duff over a petty grudge. Tiresome to see Rose behaving like a horny and desperate damsel over a bunch of strangers. Boring to see Dorothy and Blanche quarreling nonstop, especially with their argument ending with Dorothy locking Blanche in a bathroom stall.
Another bunch of horse manure. What the hell were these writers thinking?

I also did not care for the Sick and Tired 2 part episode. I also hate the show where Sophia's friend wants to commit suicide.

There are so many in the last 2 seasons that I don't care for.

My all time least favorite is the 2 part Moonlight Madness party. Talk about a weak script and running out of things to write about and good grief its a 2 parter. The people at the party we never saw before. Sophia has some weird curse. Dorothy betrays Rose and kisses Niles. Its all so dumb

I agree with an earlier post that said the Empty Nest show is so bad its sort of good. We know none of these characters and the writers spend too much time trying to make them funny instead of introducing them. When Sophia does this big fake laugh about Mr Fix it, its so bad its funny to laugh at. Also when Dorothy confronts the neighbor about peeing in their pool that they dont have LOL. In an earlier season and episode Sophia complains that they are the only house in the neighborhood without a pool.
The moonlight episode was ASS. :lol: Almost as bad as the “Cheeseman” episodes.

Yes, Where's Charlie is a horrible episode. But sadly in the last 2 seasons there are several similar. First 3 seasons are outstanding. 4th season is good. Each season after I don't care to watch anymore.

The moonlight episode was ASS. :lol: Almost as bad as the “Cheeseman” episodes.
I am old enough to remember when the moonlight episode aired. The episode aired in Feb 1992 when a very rare event happened during the leap year. There were 2 full moons which is called a "blue moon." It shows how desperate the writers were to read in the paper about the blue moon and write an entire 2 part episode about the Blue Moon and weird antics in the house. Just really dumb

"Little Sister" is the episode I hate more than any other. It was just not good at all, with the girls not believing Rose and taking her sisters side over her. Not a good episode at all.

"Empty Nest" was another one I didn't care for. I agree with the poster above that said they want to see the girls and not their neighbors.

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The Empty Nest episode was poorly written. We never got formally introduced to these characters and the scenes are written as if the viewer has seen them many times on the show. It gets confusing. If the characters were given 2-3 episodes to develop, then maybe the Empty Next episode would not be so confusing. The writers also made Dorothy accuse the neighbor of urinating in their pool. The Girls never had a pool and Sophia said in an earlier episode they are the only house in the neighborhood without a pool. This episode does stand out for one reason. This was an early sign how the writing on the Golden Girls was changing. The Empty Nest episode was written for simple lines for laughs over and over instead of good plot and character development. In the last seasons of the Golden Girls, that is all we got. Unclever jokes over and over and the plots were weak and uninteresting. The video posted is really good and explains the poor writing when even Rita says the writer Susan was really sick and could not do re-writes.