View Full Version : A lot of these cases have an Ohio connection


Guardian
05-23-2010, 09:50 PM
I am just curious if anyone else has noticed this trend with UM. I started noticing several years ago that quite a few UM segments have an Ohio connection of some sort. The first time I noticed this I began watching for it and the very next episode had at least some mention of Ohio in every segment. Then the very last segment came on and there was no mention... until... some very fast synthesized music started and a few letters popped up on the screen and Robert Stack's voice informed me of an update. The fugitive in question for that segment was apprehended in... you guessed it: Ohio. From then on I have noticed it is almost impossible to have an enitre UM episode without having some mention of Ohio. Kind of weird. I just thought I would share that and see if anyone else has noticed it.

hostedbyrobertstack
05-23-2010, 10:49 PM
I am from Ohio, and it must be because it is a horrifically boring state that these fugitives/people feel that they can blend in. On a side note, I have been to the Perman Gilbert site in ohio...but have not yet made it to the Kurt Sova sites (which is one of my favorite cases.)

tiddlywinks950
05-24-2010, 02:04 AM
I've noticed that too. Don't think I'm trying to bad mouth Ohio (the places I've been in Ohio are great, and it's just a theory), but maybe the crime is somehow related to poverty? I know Ohio has had some issues with poverty (alot of Unsolved Mysteries cases were also based in the south, where i live, and poverty is an issue in alot of areas). Or maybe Robert Stack had a hand in selecting which cases were selected and he had an Ohio fetish ;)

Guardian
05-24-2010, 02:13 AM
Yeah, I am not trying to bad mouth Ohio, just making an observation. Never even been there. However, one of my favorite older cases takes place there: The Torso Slayer. That case kind of creeps me out to this day. Sort of a more modern Jack the Ripper almost.

tiddlywinks950
05-24-2010, 02:16 AM
Yeah, I am not trying to bad mouth Ohio, just making an observation. Never even been there. However, one of my favorite older cases takes place there: The Torso Slayer. That case kind of creeps me out to this day. Sort of a more modern Jack the Ripper almost.

wasn't Eliot Ness involved in that one? more evidence to support the Stack theory :crazy:

XCalibur
05-24-2010, 10:51 AM
From everything I've read it sounds like the Torso Slayer was probably Frank Sweeney, the guy who sent all those taunting letters to Ness from mental institutions. He was a medic in World War I and certainly knew how to do amputations, he failed a couple of lie detector tests as well. But no one really knows for sure. Even today lie detector tests are unreliable, and there are always sickos that like to pretend to be a murderer as well, like that nut who claimed he killed Jon Benet.

The Torso Slayer was somewhat ahead of his time as far as crime goes. Law enforcement has a better idea of how to track down guys like that now, Ness wasn't used to going after that type of criminal, even so he adjusted pretty well in the end and may have nabbed his guy, just didn't have enough evidence to really publicly bring it out.

Mastermind
05-24-2010, 11:12 AM
I think there might be a relationship the staff of UM had with the state of Ohio.

Something like one of the staffers knows a newspaper writer in Ohio, or something.

Or one of the staffers lived in Ohio and tends to hear more about Ohio cases.


It may also have something to do with UM's demographic audience.

Perhaps more people watch in that part of the area, and hence tend to call in with case ideas.

MissFit29
05-24-2010, 10:05 PM
Tennessee seems to be a hotbed too, as well as Arizona.

I always noticed that stuff because I'm from Wisconsin, and there were like, 4 cases there. Even North Dakota had more. I always wanted UM to find its way into my backyard. How silly of me.

Apostapler
05-25-2010, 01:50 AM
Tennessee seems to be a hotbed too, as well as Arizona.

I always noticed that stuff because I'm from Wisconsin, and there were like, 4 cases there. Even North Dakota had more. I always wanted UM to find its way into my backyard. How silly of me.


No one commits crime in Wisconsin, c'mon. :)

VikingsGal
05-25-2010, 08:19 AM
Ohio is a large and populated state, as is Texas and California and New Jersey isn't all that big but very populated. More people = more crime= more UM strories for us!!!

Yes I noticed Tennessee has a lot of stories as well, too.

No one commits crime in Wisconsin, c'mon.
Even Minnesota doesn't have a lot......we have the two dogs who left the cabin and one made it home! One was foind by a happy elderly couple and one was (hopefully) found by someone else

Either Minnesota doesn't have much crime or we hide it really well!

Yes I am a Minnesota native.

Corky Kneivel
05-25-2010, 02:17 PM
Yes I am a Minnesota native.


Got any stories you want to share about the kooky people you knew back in St. Olaf?

Mastermind
05-25-2010, 03:47 PM
No one commits crime in Wisconsin, c'mon.

I don;t think Milwaukee is exactly crime-free. I';ve heard Milwaukee has had more than it's fair share of gang and drug violence.

tiddlywinks950
05-25-2010, 04:08 PM
Got any stories you want to share about the kooky people you knew back in St. Olaf?

Hahaha!

MissFit29
05-25-2010, 06:39 PM
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I don;t think Milwaukee is exactly crime-free. I';ve heard Milwaukee has had more than it's fair share of gang and drug violence.

Milwaukee is not the safest city by any means. It's pretty close to Chicago, and the drugs are in free-flow down there.

I always wanted to take a map and pinpoint the UM segment locations on there....just to see if there was any pattern.

Oldschooler81
05-25-2010, 07:04 PM
Heck, that's true! Let's not forget The Wackers. ;)

I think UM getting more coverage in Ohio (which is like the tail end of the Midwest, imo) it could be because cases would get more attention if they happened more in the heartland. Not that horrible murders, kidnappings, and other things don't happen in LA, New York, Chicago or DC too (heck I'm sure it's way more), but it might've just been more notable in a place where you wouldn't initially expect it.

DP1
05-25-2010, 11:26 PM
From everything I've read it sounds like the Torso Slayer was probably Frank Sweeney, the guy who sent all those taunting letters to Ness from mental institutions. He was a medic in World War I and certainly knew how to do amputations, he failed a couple of lie detector tests as well. But no one really knows for sure. Even today lie detector tests are unreliable, and there are always sickos that like to pretend to be a murderer as well, like that nut who claimed he killed Jon Benet.

The Torso Slayer was somewhat ahead of his time as far as crime goes. Law enforcement has a better idea of how to track down guys like that now, Ness wasn't used to going after that type of criminal, even so he adjusted pretty well in the end and may have nabbed his guy, just didn't have enough evidence to really publicly bring it out.

Wasn't Sweeney also the cousin of a Congressman who was a vocal critic of Ness?

scm80
05-26-2010, 10:51 PM
I read that...in of all things a comic!

Mastermind
05-27-2010, 01:16 PM
I read that...in of all things a comic!

i once learned about Geology from a Fantastic Four comic.

Who says comics don;t teach you anything!!!:lol:

Guardian
06-03-2010, 03:39 AM
I read that...in of all things a comic!

would that by chance be the Batman elseworlds comic which guessed starred Elliot Ness?