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zack007attack
03-25-2010, 10:15 PM
Where do you guys think he is? Here are my ideas:

He is living somewhere in the wilderness, in a cabin or shack (his AMW profile said it was his childhood dream).
He is an avid outdoorsman, survivalist, and hunter, so he could live out there indefinitely off the grid; just as long as he lives in an area abundant in fresh water (such as near a lake or river), and has lots of live game to hunt. He would also need sources to make fire, which shouldn't be too hard to get.
He probably on some occasions pops into civilized areas, but only to obtain absolute essential items he can't get in the wilderness (such as clothing or tools).

xxxxmattxxxx69
03-25-2010, 10:30 PM
Where do you guys think he is? Here are my ideas:

He is living somewhere in the wilderness, in a cabin or shack (his AMW profile said it was his childhood dream).
He is an avid outdoorsman, survivalist, and hunter, so he could live out there indefinitely off the grid; just as long as he lives in an area abundant in fresh water (such as near a lake or river), and has lots of live game to hunt. He would also need sources to make fire, which shouldn't be too hard to get.
He probably on some occasions pops into civilized areas, but only to obtain absolute essential items he can't get in the wilderness (such as clothing or tools).


Ya he is probably living in a tent or something in the woods. He could be dead him self though

Clockworkhigh
03-25-2010, 11:35 PM
Who was he? Was he ever profiled on UM?

kadrmas15
03-26-2010, 12:24 AM
Yes he was profiled on UM back in 01, 02, somewhere in there. He is on the FBI's ten most wanted list. http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten/fugitives/fisher.htm

He murdered his wife and his two children, ages 12 and 10 in April of 2001 in Scottsdale, Arizona. He did not just kill them though, he blew up the house to cover up evidence. Fisher had in the past worked as a Fireman and also had worked as an Emergency Room surgery tech. So he was experienced. He actually had a delayed device, he stuck a candle I believe by his gas heater and turned the gas on, but he knew it would take a while before the gas would build up to the level that it would ignite with the candle burning. So he was already out of town before the thing blew up.

slasherman
03-26-2010, 07:34 PM
I don't think he live in the wilderness. Either he committed suicide in the wilderness(under a rock or something) or he have started another life in another country.

JackKerouac1989
10-12-2010, 01:26 AM
The lack of discussion on this case puzzles me especially since it bears similarity to the Willaim Bradford Bishop case.
I think there is a big chance Robert Fisher is alive and he has yet to be caught :mad:
If he went through all that trouble to disappear I doubt he killed himself.
I still can't believe a man would do that to their wife and children.
There is a place in hell reserved for people like Robert Fisher and Brad Bishop.

Apostapler
10-12-2010, 03:58 AM
Okay I'm really trying to remember this case. Is this the one where he blew up the house, and then they were expecting to find his remains nearby but never did? I can barely remember this.

TracyLynnS
10-12-2010, 08:52 AM
I read the FBI page but I don't remember the case. What was his motive? If it's like Brad Bishop or John List, he may have wanted to get away from pressure and responsibility.

As far as being a survivalist, didn't Eric Rudolph (the bomber) hide in the woods for about 5 years? He lived off the land but IIRC, he also stole supplies to survive and was seen at least once during that time. He may have also had help from friends and family because he and they were connected to some kind of white supremacy cult and they believed in his "cause". (I don't know much about that part of the case.)

Would Robert Fisher need help from the outside?

TracyLynnS
10-12-2010, 09:10 AM
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=25245

According to AMW, it really is a Brad Bishop thing. He killed the whole family, then went on the run with his dog. The dog was recovered.

I was thinking that it was possible that he was also a victim who just hadn't been recovered. (There was some woman who's aunt's house blew up and they couldn't find the aunt for weeks or months, and allegedly, some psychic led them to the body. She'd been there all along, close to the house, and was overlooked in the search.) Obviously, with the recovery of the dog and the getaway vehicle, it's unlikely that this guy is an innocent victim.

The way he murdered his family is violent and sickening, also like Bishop. His wife was shot and her throat slashed. Both kids, ages 10 and 12, had their throats slashed.

If he's still alive, he's been out there for 9 1/2 years. I'm going to go look up more info...

JackKerouac1989
10-12-2010, 08:54 PM
The similarities to the Brad Bishop case are scary.
Both Men murdered their wife and children.
Both men spared the life of the family dog.
Both Men were 40 when they commited their murders.
Both Men's whereabouts are unknown to this day.
Both Men are monsters :mad:

slasherman
10-13-2010, 01:45 AM
Cases like this happens all the time. We have a case here in Norway right now where a father murdered his three children and his wife. The only difference is that he committed suicide afterwards. Either way it is a sick thing to do.

xxxxmattxxxx69
10-13-2010, 05:51 PM
You'd be surprised that most psychopathic killers won't hurt animals especially ones they grow attached to. But Brad Bishop's case is more like that of John List except List we know has since deceased

sffan
05-16-2011, 09:32 PM
I'm surprised this case isn't discussed more here. It has been 10 years and this man still hasn't been found-dead or alive. He is also on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. This is a horrible case and it need to be solved. Robert Fisher could be a friend, or coworker of yours. He could be anybody, hopefully he will be found soon.

DarkDante
05-17-2011, 10:15 AM
I think he's dead in a cave in that forest somewhere. I have a strong feeling that he committed suicide shortly after her murdered his family. I know his wife's sister thought that if Bob had intentions on taking his own life that he would've just killed himself at the house with the rest of his family but I'm not sure that type of thinking holds true here.

Bob was an emotionally disturbed individual who seemed to bear deep emotional scars from his own parents' divorce to the point where I'm sure he actually convinced himself that by killing his family (in particular his children) he was actually saving them from the same trauma that he went through when his parents' divorced.

I believe after he murdered his family, he went to one of his favorite places and gave up the ghost. I believe that someone will stumble upon his remains in that forest someday. However as we've seen many times on UM, people who choose to take their own lives in vast desolate areas often take a very long time to locate which I'm sure is part of the reason why they choose to take their lives in places like this in the first place.

But no again I don't think Bob Fisher is alive. He committed suicide shortly after he murdered his family.

Victoria81
02-04-2012, 05:14 PM
I think he's dead in a cave in that forest somewhere. I have a strong feeling that he committed suicide shortly after her murdered his family. I know his wife's sister thought that if Bob had intentions on taking his own life that he would've just killed himself at the house with the rest of his family but I'm not sure that type of thinking holds true here.

Bob was an emotionally disturbed individual who seemed to bear deep emotional scars from his own parents' divorce to the point where I'm sure he actually convinced himself that by killing his family (in particular his children) he was actually saving them from the same trauma that he went through when his parents' divorced.

I believe after he murdered his family, he went to one of his favorite places and gave up the ghost. I believe that someone will stumble upon his remains in that forest someday. However as we've seen many times on UM, people who choose to take their own lives in vast desolate areas often take a very long time to locate which I'm sure is part of the reason why they choose to take their lives in places like this in the first place.

But no again I don't think Bob Fisher is alive. He committed suicide shortly after he murdered his family.


This was on Americas Most Wanted last night! I bet he is in a small town, if he is still alive. The way they (the detectives) are talking, he would be in a place he wouldn't be recognize.

Lots of UM's are popping up on AMW more and more. 2 in last nights.

1990 UM fan
02-04-2012, 05:22 PM
I feel a man as arrogant as him would still be alive today, but in isolation, whether out in the open or somewhere rural. I hope he gets caught someday, but if he is dead, that someone stumbles upon his remains.

TheCars1986
02-05-2012, 02:35 PM
I honestly think he went into a remote area (cave, mine shaft, etc.) and killed himself.

WishfulDreamer
02-17-2012, 07:11 PM
I honestly think he went into a remote area (cave, mine shaft, etc.) and killed himself.
I think either this or the remote area theory is being too championed and he's living incognito elsewhere. Hopefully they've thoroughly looked around other places rather than just focusing on his living out in the wilderness.

As for Robert Fisher, he was mentioned in an article about a remote mountain man breaking into cabins. However, the mountain man looks younger than Fisher. Still, I'm glad he was mentioned: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501843_162-57380299/mountain-man-scares-owners-of-remote-utah-cabins/

This article reminds me of a movie called "Cry in the Wild: The Taking of Peggy Ann" which is about a mountain man who kidnapped a young girl in 1966 and would commit similar crimes (short of actual violence) .

Anyway, it's very doubtful that this is Fisher, but I thought you all might be interested.

freshwater
02-22-2012, 07:50 PM
I don't see Fisher mentioned in that article. I do see them mentioning another bad dude on the Top Ten List though. But I thought of Fisher as a possibility when I saw that story last week, too. The picture doesn't seem to be him though.

WishfulDreamer
02-22-2012, 08:52 PM
Oh darn. The original article I found mentioned him! Here it is:
http://news.yahoo.com/mountain-man-scares-owners-remote-utah-cabins-090722480.html
"Johnson said the FBI has considered the possibility that the cabin burglar may be Robert William Fisher, described as a survivalist, hunter and angler who authorities say killed his family then blew up their house in Scottsdale, Ariz., in 2001. However, at 50 years old, Johnson is doubtful it's the man in the surveillance photos, who appears much younger."

ScaryFog
02-23-2012, 12:28 AM
This guy is a vile human being. With these cases, there's not much evidence to rule out any possible end to this. But I think he's still out there. When people kill themselves, they don't really hide theselves never to be found.

I hope they catch him soon. As least that other scumbag Josh Powell took himself out and is not enjoying himself like this clown Robert Fisher is probably doing.

TJ
07-10-2017, 05:02 PM
This case doesn't receive the same amount of discussion as the William Bradford Bishop case for some reason. Robert Fisher is still on the FBI's Top 10 Most Wanted List. I think he's most likely still alive. He probably has remarried and has a new family. They still seem to be receiving many tips and possible sightings.

Has anybody watched the Where Is Robert Fisher documentary? It's available on Amazon Instant Video - https://www.amazon.com/Where-Robert-Fisher-Caldwell/dp/B01JSP9QRA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494958352&sr=8-1&keywords=where+is+robert+fisher . It's by director Charlie Minn. He did the Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre documentary, A Nightmare in Las Cruces, which is also available on Amazon and Netflix.

It's a very interesting and well put together documentary. It has a lot of local news clips, home video footage and new interviews.

The Hunt with John Walsh also did a segment on him last June.

RobinW
07-10-2017, 11:50 PM
Has anybody watched the Where Is Robert Fisher documentary? It's available on Amazon Instant Video - https://www.amazon.com/Where-Robert-Fisher-Caldwell/dp/B01JSP9QRA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494958352&sr=8-1&keywords=where+is+robert+fisher . It's by director Charlie Minn. He did the Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre documentary, A Nightmare in Las Cruces, which is also available on Amazon and Netflix.

It's a very interesting and well put together documentary. It has a lot of local news clips, home video footage and new interviews.

Oh wow, I didn't know this documentary existed. Now that I have an Amazon Prime account because of UM, I'll be sure to check this out.

Interestingly enough, Charlie Minn worked briefly as a WWF announcer during the mid-1990s. Not long ago, LooksLikeCRicci remarked that a lot of discussions on this board somehow wind up having bits of obscure wrestling trivia. What are the odds that a former wrestling announcer would go on to direct two documentaries about UM cases? :lol:

DazzlerSparkler
07-11-2017, 12:37 AM
I'm suddenly reminded of that creepy Mormon guy whose wife disappeared. I think they found the body? Anyway eventually he blew himself and his two boys up in their house.

LooksLikeCRicci
07-11-2017, 11:52 AM
Oh wow, I didn't know this documentary existed. Now that I have an Amazon Prime account because of UM, I'll be sure to check this out.

Interestingly enough, Charlie Minn worked briefly as a WWF announcer during the mid-1990s. Not long ago, LooksLikeCRicci remarked that a lot of discussions on this board somehow wind up having bits of obscure wrestling trivia. What are the odds that a former wrestling announcer would go on to direct two documentaries about UM cases? :lol:

All roads seem to lead back to pro wrestling... :)

LakeForestPI
07-11-2017, 09:05 PM
If I'm ever fortunate enough to come across R Fisher he will be getting 2 to the forehead. Anyone that knowingly kills children need to suffer beyond what is reasonable to normal human beings.

Necco
07-11-2017, 09:26 PM
I'm suddenly reminded of that creepy Mormon guy whose wife disappeared. I think they found the body? Anyway eventually he blew himself and his two boys up in their house.

powell?

DazzlerSparkler
07-12-2017, 12:22 AM
powell?

Yeah him. He had a moustache. He totally killed his wife. What a psycho.

MegtheEgg86
07-16-2017, 09:16 AM
I've always thought Fisher killed himself shortly after killing his family. I think his body is probably somewhere in Tonto National Forest in the vicinity of where his vehicle was found, yet to be uncovered. There is much evidence to suggest Fisher was extremely self-conscious of his family image, and that a divorce would have been deeply devastating to him personally. Rather than face such a thing, I think he eliminated his family, and having rationalized that there was nothing else for which to live, he committed suicide. I think the only reason he fled was to put just enough distance between himself and the authorities long enough to carry out a suicide on his own terms.

JannTosh
03-26-2018, 07:38 PM
I have a hard time believing a guy could do something like this in 2001 and completely disappear of the face of the Earth. Think he is most likely dead and died in the wilderness

Fletch
03-26-2018, 09:34 PM
“Robert Fisher is alive, and he lives in Omaha.”

Sorry, couldn’t resist.

tsaun
03-27-2018, 02:42 AM
I've always thought Fisher killed himself shortly after killing his family. I think his body is probably somewhere in Tonto National Forest in the vicinity of where his vehicle was found, yet to be uncovered. There is much evidence to suggest Fisher was extremely self-conscious of his family image, and that a divorce would have been deeply devastating to him personally. Rather than face such a thing, I think he eliminated his family, and having rationalized that there was nothing else for which to live, he committed suicide. I think the only reason he fled was to put just enough distance between himself and the authorities long enough to carry out a suicide on his own terms.

Yeah. Joe Owens comes to mind when I think of this case. After police started to suspect Joe of murdering his wife, he went to a remote part of the country and killed himself.

I think the same thing happened with Fisher. He probably isn't far from where they found his car.

JannTosh
03-27-2018, 01:16 PM
Also I believe he was on painkillers. With likely no way of getting more he would suffer from withdrawal and the pain. Add to that likely harsh living conditions and yeah. He’s dead Jim

asmitty
03-27-2018, 02:51 PM
UM describing Fisher as an "avid outdoorsman" does more to make me think he killed himself than it does to make me think he trekked into the woods to avoid capture. I think when the time came to end his own life, he wanted to die outdoors on his terms.

Clockwork
01-19-2026, 12:05 AM
He is a crafty guy, how do we not know he did that with his car to throw people off? There are people, dumber people than Robert, who managed to evade the police for several years, even multiple decades, by getting a new identity. Why couldn't he do it? It wouldn't shock me if he were alive and re-married by now. This happens all of the time, and his wife and new family wouldn't know who he was.

He could have killed himself too, sure, but to never be found again? Wouldn't they have done a search with some bloodhounds and picked up his scent somewhere?

I also think this was calculated. He purposely took his wife's vehicle, not his. This alone would bide a lot of time while they still assume Robert was in the house burned to a crisp. Also, you are going to commit suicide but you pull money out of your bank account? Why? He looked like he could blend in. He was 6'0" 180lbs. as they said, normal looking.