I did a quick search and didnt see this as a topic. What is the most heartbreaking case you saw on Unsolved Mysteries?

For me, (and I cant remember their names), its the story of the lady who was employed a a supevisor of a casino, was pregnant and was shot and killed while in her home with her husband. While listening to her husband talk about how his unborn baby suffered because it had to depend on Mom and Mom was dead, I felt so bad for this guy. As of last month, there have not been any updates or arrests made in this case. Such a sad and heinous crime. I really hope they get the person who did this.

Hmm, do not know that case. But one of my more heartbreaking ones is the Blind River Murders. The husband seemed so sad about his wife dying it broke your heart. He says they were married for 39 years and by my assumption if he had gotten married young then that would peg him at 60 years old which was probably the age they were starting to enjoy their retirement. Glad they eventually got the guy though.

Ayleen Conway's case is hard to swallow. Her husband seemed like such a nice guy

Patti Stallings case is sad too even if there is a somewhat happy ending

I don't remember what any of their names were, and it may even be a new segment (I first saw it on Spike), but there was one that involved an African-American woman who worked at a bank. She went to work and saw some letter at the door, something to the effect of attempted extortion. Anyway, she went home and not too long after that her apartment was set on fire. The really heartbreaking part was that her young daughter opened the door and walked into the flames, dying almost instantly. Even worse was the mother and her adult son running after her and sustaining eventually fatal wounds themselves. They died the next day. It's tragic enough that the young girl died, but I couldn't get it out of my head that the last thing that the brother and the mom had to live with was that this little girl died. This one just broke my heart.

Todd Kelly-I don't believe his girlfriend had anything to do with this and Todd's family is just looking for a scapegoat when they should really be trying to find the real suspect in this case.

Nick Markowitz-JJH had the chance to do the right thing and he likely would not have gotten in trouble had he done it. But apparently he had to be an ignorant, heartless sadist and slaughter an innocent teenager.

Tara Calico
Tara Breckenridge
Jennifer Pratt

The segment where this man was desparately searching for his young son, only to find out he'd died of cancer years earlier.

I did a quick search and didnt see this as a topic. What is the most heartbreaking case you saw on Unsolved Mysteries?

For me, (and I cant remember their names), its the story of the lady who was employed a a supevisor of a casino, was pregnant and was shot and killed while in her home with her husband. While listening to her husband talk about how his unborn baby suffered because it had to depend on Mom and Mom was dead, I felt so bad for this guy. As of last month, there have not been any updates or arrests made in this case. Such a sad and heinous crime. I really hope they get the person who did this.

Jodi Bordeaux was her name.

The segment where this man was desparately searching for his young son, only to find out he'd died of cancer years earlier.

Christophe Day. Oh, what a rotten, hateful, selfish person that man's wife was.

Jodi Bordeaux was her name.


Thanks Meg!! I did a quick search and didnt see a topic about her case. I felt so bad for her husband. He was left without any family after that incident. I hope they catch the scumbag that did this.

Christophe Day. Oh, what a rotten, hateful, selfish person that man's wife was.
*snaps fingers*

That's it, thanks! Yeah, rotten and hateful is an apt description of her.

Todd Kelly-I don't believe his girlfriend had anything to do with this and Todd's family is just looking for a scapegoat when they should really be trying to find the real suspect in this case.


Really? That's a minority opinion around here. Most of us think that she either helped Mahfous kill him or that she knows MUCH more about what really happened than she lets on. No doubt in my mind it is one of those two scenarios. She just was not believable

The case of Dan Tondevold was sad. He ripped off the one person who had put her trust in him and was forced to live in a tiny apartment until she died. I was left wondering if anyone was watching her accounts, maybe I missed it if it said somewhere she only allowed Dan access to the accounts.

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't you insured through your bank if something like this happens? This actually has left me wondering for years, if someone robs you at the ATM, or forces you to withdraw money, do you get that back? Or is it a loss to you?

I get the theory that Tom may have hired someone and killed him, but I'm surprised there isn't fingerprints or something someone could run to compare and determ who it was they found in the swamp. Any missing persons from that area around that time? If not, Tom may have off'd himself.

The case of Dan Tondevold was sad. He ripped off the one person who had put her trust in him and was forced to live in a tiny apartment until she died. I was left wondering if anyone was watching her accounts, maybe I missed it if it said somewhere she only allowed Dan access to the accounts.

Maybe I'm wrong, but aren't you insured through your bank if something like this happens? This actually has left me wondering for years, if someone robs you at the ATM, or forces you to withdraw money, do you get that back? Or is it a loss to you?

I get the theory that Tom may have hired someone and killed him, but I'm surprised there isn't fingerprints or something someone could run to compare and determ who it was they found in the swamp. Any missing persons from that area around that time? If not, Tom may have off'd himself.

I think that the bank will insure the money you had stolen (up to 200,000 dollars last I checked) if someone steals your checks, credit cards, etc... but in this case, the victim (through no fault of her own) signed him power of attorney I think, which gave him legal rights to do whatever he wanted with her money. Therefore, she was not eligible to get the money back. The only way I could see a reversal happening is if it could be proven that she did NOT want him to have such power, that she was incompetent, or that it was based on false pretenses, and we can't prove any of those things without Dan being alive to question.

Very very sad.

I don't remember what any of their names were, and it may even be a new segment (I first saw it on Spike), but there was one that involved an African-American woman who worked at a bank. She went to work and saw some letter at the door, something to the effect of attempted extortion. Anyway, she went home and not too long after that her apartment was set on fire. The really heartbreaking part was that her young daughter opened the door and walked into the flames, dying almost instantly. Even worse was the mother and her adult son running after her and sustaining eventually fatal wounds themselves. They died the next day. It's tragic enough that the young girl died, but I couldn't get it out of my head that the last thing that the brother and the mom had to live with was that this little girl died. This one just broke my heart.

Does anyone have any more information on this case? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

Does anyone have any more information on this case? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

I also cannot remember the names but it did happen in Houston, TX and the perpetrators were caught and arrested. Oddly enough, it was two teenage boys that lived in a neighborhood close to the apartment complex. UM didn't release their names or their punishment. At least they were caught. Very sad case though.

Of course all the UM cases are sad in some way but the one that almost made me cry was featured in the Ghosts topic of the show. Karen was the only child in a tight knit family and her and her parents called themselves 'The Three Musketeers'. Then Karen's boyfriend Jim was welcomed into their family. Karen helped Jim study and they made plans to marry. Then Karen was diagnoised with a rare type of cancer and it just went downhill from there- she went into a coma then they found out the cancer had spread to Karen's brain (ok by this point I was almost in tears!!!!) and this line has stayed with my since- the pain in the mother's words: 'Karen died on December 17th- two days before she would have been married.' I was so sad when i saw this segment but I was glad that the parents and Jim received closure from a psychic and Jim felt Karen's prescence around him whenever he studied. This just shows that just because a person's passed away doesn't mean they are gone.....

I would say the Baskin kids or anytime kids are kidnapped and a parent, through no fault of their own, misses out on years and years with their own kids. And probably brainwashed to believe they are mean, too.

I am not comparing it with a loss of life but those stories are just so sad.

sorry - double post!

I don't remember what any of their names were, and it may even be a new segment (I first saw it on Spike), but there was one that involved an African-American woman who worked at a bank. She went to work and saw some letter at the door, something to the effect of attempted extortion. Anyway, she went home and not too long after that her apartment was set on fire. The really heartbreaking part was that her young daughter opened the door and walked into the flames, dying almost instantly. Even worse was the mother and her adult son running after her and sustaining eventually fatal wounds themselves. They died the next day. It's tragic enough that the young girl died, but I couldn't get it out of my head that the last thing that the brother and the mom had to live with was that this little girl died. This one just broke my heart.
What is this story? I don't recall it at all.

My vote would be the Bill Day story, at least off the top of my head. Too many to pick just one.

I always thought the Dwayne McCorkendale case was really sad. Trying to do his job, calling his wife, shot for such a small amount of money. And leaving those two little girls without a dad. :(

And I know I'm in something of a minority here, but I always pitied Gail Delano. Very, very sad story.

Yeah, I did too Meg the Egg. I think and again this is just an opinion, but in regards to Gail Delano, it in some ways surprises me the majority of people do not only not feel sorry for her but almost seem to hold her in contempt. I am not saying what she did was right because it was not. However I think a lot of people are making the mistake of judging an irrational person from a rational point of view. I mean when I say irrational, I do not mean insane, but when someone has depression that is chronic and as severe as Gail's was, it gets to a point to where you feel like suicide is the best and only way out. I mean clearly someone that thinks suicide is the only answer to their problems is not thinking rationally.

Yeah, I did too Meg the Egg. I think and again this is just an opinion, but in regards to Gail Delano, it in some ways surprises me the majority of people do not only not feel sorry for her but almost seem to hold her in contempt. I am not saying what she did was right because it was not. However I think a lot of people are making the mistake of judging an irrational person from a rational point of view. I mean when I say irrational, I do not mean insane, but when someone has depression that is chronic and as severe as Gail's was, it gets to a point to where you feel like suicide is the best and only way out. I mean clearly someone that thinks suicide is the only answer to their problems is not thinking rationally.


For once, we're in agreement. :)

Having been there, I have only sadness and pity for those who choose that way out. I will NEVER judge them, because I know what it's like. It really pisses me off when people say things like "Oh, that's selfish" or "Oh, they're a terrible person" or whatever, because they're thinking with the mind of a sane, rational person, and not the mind of a severely depressed individual. Oftentimes, those people honestly believe the world (and their loved ones) will be better off without them.:(

Yes, I know a couple of people that have committed suicide and I myself have had depression for years and been on medication off and on for it. I will get ripped on for that no doubt, but it does not matter. Only an ignorant person would rip on someone for something like this. I remember a few years ago, when the whole Andrea Yates saga was going on and I remember her husband Rusty, piece of crap that he is, but anyway he was quoted as saying 'all people with depression need is a swift kick in the pants to get them motivated' Andrea's brother quoted him as saying that.

The reason I bring the above case into this is because misunderstanding of this condition and other mental/emotional illnesses can have lethal consequences. I think it is again, due to what I mentioned in an earlier post, of rational people looking at irrational people from a rational point of view and not being able to understand why these people can't just get motivated or why they can't just snap out of it? It is a medical condition, that often is chronic and is not something you can turn on and off like a light.

In Gail's case, I think that she had suffered from this condition, from the sounds of it, for a long time, years, maybe decades. Frankly, I think she was just tired of it. I think she got to a point to where I think she was just tired of fighting it and I think she felt like she was a burden to everyone, her sons, her parents, her siblings, her friends, everyone. I think she just decided in her irrational way of thinking that she would take matters into her own hands and just end it all as she felt she was a burden to others. It sounds like she died of a drug overdose, I am not sure what drugs they were, but my guess is that it was either barbiturates or sleeping pills, maybe pain killers.

If anyone was to blame, perhaps more people should have seen the signs that Gail might be suicide prone.

there was one that involved an African-American woman who worked at a bank. She went to work and saw some letter at the door, something to the effect of attempted extortion. Anyway, she went home and not too long after that her apartment was set on fire.

That was the Donna Baldio (sp?) segment, in Houston, Texas. As someone posted, two juveniles confessed to starting the fire.

One of the cases that really got to me was Jasper Watkins (the elderly man in the steamer trunk). I know some UM fans were disturbed by the morgue photo but I just had a complete sense of tragedy from seeing it; there was a mild resemblance to my father, who I and my brother were caregivers to until his death. It's sickening that someone would murder a helpless man, then dump him out like garbage.

As far as Gail Delano, how can anyone not feel bad? Her chronic depression cheated her of having more time with her sons (who would be adults now and possibly parents themselves).

That was the Donna Baldio (sp?) segment, in Houston, Texas. As someone posted, two juveniles confessed to starting the fire.

One of the cases that really got to me was Jasper Watkins (the elderly man in the steamer trunk). I know some UM fans were disturbed by the morgue photo but I just had a complete sense of tragedy from seeing it; there was a mild resemblance to my father, who I and my brother were caregivers to until his death. It's sickening that someone would murder a helpless man, then dump him out like garbage.



I agree. Showing Jasper's face really showed his sad vulnerability and the complete lack of magnanimity in his death. A lot of folks were grossed out, but I too was heartbroken.

George Owens is my number one. The actor's portrayal of Owens gets me every time.

I just watched the George Owens segment for the first time and found it incredibly heartbreaking.

Also:

-Blind River rest stop murders -- the husband is just so, so sad and heartbroken himself

-Jasper Watkins (steamer trunk guy) -- when they showed his "good" photo after he had been identified, he looked like such a sweet old man! This case really got to me; I get really, really upset when people prey upon the weak/helpless

-I don't remember the names for either of these cases, but they both involved pizza delivery (one case involved a male pizza delivery guy, and one involved a female delivery girl). I can't stand it when people are simply trying to do their (oft-thankless) jobs and some criminal takes advantage of their vulnerability on the job

-Jennifer Pratt -- seeing her attempt to make a recovery, her optimism in the face of such tragedy, is both heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time

-Little Miss Pannasoffkee -- not only does this poor woman die a horrific death, but nobody seems to be missing her...that is beyond heartbreaking

-Jasper Watkins (steamer trunk guy) -- when they showed his "good" photo after he had been identified, he looked like such a sweet old man! This case really got to me; I get really, really upset when people prey upon the weak/helpless

I always feel bad for the "gross-out" reaction poor Jasper receives around here. Although obviously understandable, it bothers me that the pre-trunk Jasper isn't recognized. No, we don't know what he was like throughout the course of his life, but nobody deserves that ending. It's funny how less grotesque that photo is when you consider that Jasper was more than a cadaver. Chances are he was isolated. If he had some of his wits about him, he was undoubtedly starved for human companionship. I would love for somebody who knew him to find this site and let us know about his life and experiences.

I just watched the George Owens segment for the first time and found it incredibly heartbreaking.

Also:

-Blind River rest stop murders -- the husband is just so, so sad and heartbroken himself

-Jasper Watkins (steamer trunk guy) -- when they showed his "good" photo after he had been identified, he looked like such a sweet old man! This case really got to me; I get really, really upset when people prey upon the weak/helpless

-I don't remember the names for either of these cases, but they both involved pizza delivery (one case involved a male pizza delivery guy, and one involved a female delivery girl). I can't stand it when people are simply trying to do their (oft-thankless) jobs and some criminal takes advantage of their vulnerability on the job

-Jennifer Pratt -- seeing her attempt to make a recovery, her optimism in the face of such tragedy, is both heartbreaking and inspiring at the same time

-Little Miss Pannasoffkee -- not only does this poor woman die a horrific death, but nobody seems to be missing her...that is beyond heartbreaking
The male pizza driver I think was Morris Davis and the female was Sherry Eyerly( i think...)

The male pizza driver I think was Morris Davis and the female was Sherry Eyerly( i think...)

Yes, that sounds right. Both so sad...but thank you for clearing that up!

The Arson attack on the Dog Kennels :( I think there was some type of disclaimer in that episode saying no Dogs were harmed during the filming of the re-enactment.

The Arson attack on the Dog Kennels :( I think there was some type of disclaimer in that episode saying no Dogs were harmed during the filming of the re-enactment.

Yeah. Mable herself wanted to make sure Robert Stack told the viewers that no dogs were harmed during the reenactment.

This segment was always a tear jerker. Especially as a dog lover.

I have to say the dog kennel fire was one of the most cruel, dispicable acts I've ever heard of. And the sad thing is they will probably never catch the sick SOB who did it. Because it was just animals some people don't fathom how evil an act that was.

I mean, anyone heartless enough to burn 60 dogs alive is probably capable of taking a human life to. I'd have no qualms about sticking someone in the electric chair for something like that, of course it would never happen in a million years, since it was just dogs.

Thats why I hope whoever did that is in jail for another crime.

The dog kennel arson case was really sad. I really hope something terrible happened to the culprit. :mad:

The Blind River murders was extremely tragic. That sicko killed Gord's wife right in front of him. :(

The Christophe Day case deserves a mention. Imagine, trying years to reconnect with your son, only to find out that his life was taken so young. Depressing case...

One that I always find unsettling is Marianne Malky finally tracking down her son after 38 years only to find out that he wanted absolutely nothing to do with her, apparently having been thoroughly brainwashed by his father. I feel very sympathetic for her, and I honestly feel some anger towards the son, because no matter what he was told about his mother while growing up, 38 years is still a long time, and, on the assumption that he saw or heard about the segment, it surprises me that he would still be so hateful and unforgiving towards her after seeing all the despair that this caused her over the years.

The one that bothered me the most was always Nyleen Kay Marshall's case- I felt so badly for her family. Also I remember one where a black elderly man was driving somewhere and got very disoriented and they didn't know where he went or anything... that really bothered me because I saw my own grandmother lose her memory and it was very heartbreaking. There was also a case where the dad was very abusive to his kids and would beat them if they were late from school, even if it wasn't their fault. I used to hug and hug my dad after that segment.....

One that gave me a lump in my throat but it ended happy was the one of the guy that falsely accused of killing a lady and her daughter. He was mildly ******** apparently but he seemed so happy when he was declared innocent and released. Also the one with the couple from Florida who helped the guy and got 500 bucks every Christmas!

There were three cases that always stuck with me. The first was the man who killed the next door neighbors of his estranged wife when she ran over there for help. I was glad to hear he was caught. The other was the kids whose eldest brother angered some drug dealers and they set the house on fire. The window bar releases failed and all except one of the children died. The third was a man who pushed his ex-wife down the stairs and told his children he was taking her to the hospital but killed her.

Is the first one you are referring to Larry George? Is the 2nd one the Jordan Children? and the third one i'm not sure about that one? Maybe someone else will know??

Is the first one you are referring to Larry George? Is the 2nd one the Jordan Children? and the third one i'm not sure about that one? Maybe someone else will know??
The only one's name I recall is the 3rd. I think it was Dennis Dupree.

I have heard about it this case of Dennis Dupree but haven't seen it. If anyone has the segment can you please PM me!

I have heard about it this case of Dennis Dupree but haven't seen it. If anyone has the segment can you please PM me!

Ugh. Dennis DePue looks like the devil himself, if I could picture what the devil would look like.

http://www.obituariesfree.com/wp-content/uploads/dennis_depue-222x240.jpg

Ugh. Dennis DePue looks like the devil himself, if I could picture what the devil would look like.

http://www.obituariesfree.com/wp-content/uploads/dennis_depue-222x240.jpg

Right! Seriously, DePue looks possessed.

The most heartbreaking segment to me is the Blind River Murder in Canada (campground murder). Listening to how that man described the murder of his beloved wife, choked me up even as a child.

There is a special place in hell for the murderer.

Ugh. Dennis DePue looks like the devil himself, if I could picture what the devil would look like.

This one always stuck with me, due I think to the reenactment inside the house with the kids. :(

This one always stuck with me, due I think to the reenactment inside the house with the kids. :(

Same here. The kids were standing there watching their gravely injured mother being drug out of the house and would never see her alive again.

George Owens. That one store owner could have called the police, the b*tch. Still get teary when his segment airs. :(

Yeah I know right! I definitely would of said 'Please sit down have a drink and i'll try and call someone to help you. You could tell by the reenactment if that was really how Mr Owens was acting then he definitely needed help. She didn't look like she was busy, had other customers so yeah i agree she dealt with it all wrong!

Yeah I know right! I definitely would of said 'Please sit down have a drink and i'll try and call someone to help you. You could tell by the reenactment if that was really how Mr Owens was acting then he definitely needed help. She didn't look like she was busy, had other customers so yeah i agree she dealt with it all wrong!

Exactly. Clearly he was elderly and either had Alzheimers (sp), dementia or even possibly just suffered a stroke. Why on earth would she not call the police or an ambulance for help? It would have taken her a minute and Mr. Owens would have been reunited with his family. And NO I don't believe she called hospitals to 'find his wife'. She lied to make herself look halfway decent on television. If she had the time to make numerous calls to hospitals, why not then tell them to come pick up an elderly gentleman who is clearly disoriented?

Some people are just completely heartless. :rant:

For me, it has to be Rachel Runyan.. I am from the same area she came from and it still breaks my heart every time I watch it. I also have to mention Nyleen Kay Marshall... That episode was hard for me to watch.. I kept crying and hoping that whoever took her would return her to her family...

Yeah i don't think she did either. I really think if she did Mr Owens probably wouldn't be missing now. I don't want to make assumptions or start a political debate but aren't some people in southern USA really racist? Maybe less importance is put on black people...

Yeah i don't think she did either. I really think if she did Mr Owens probably wouldn't be missing now. I don't want to make assumptions or start a political debate but aren't some people in southern USA really racist? Maybe less importance is put on black people...
I was born in Dallas, TX. I live in Indianapolis now. Have lived all over Indiana. Have also lived in Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, and Ohio. I married a black women. I am white btw. The media and Hollywood help inflate that ALOT. Back in the day. Yes, Absolutely. It was a travesty. There still and always will be idiot racists of all colors. If not Hollywood and the Media would surely invent racism again. I have known people that are bigots of every color. But its not prevalent anymore. And imo it doesn't matter. This country elected a Black President with a muslim middle name less than 10 years after 9/11. I am very proud of that accomplishment. Having said that labeling the lady in the segment or claiming she thought less of someone because of their skin color is ignorant imo. No offense and please don't take anything I say personally. Everyone has their opinions. And I have been roasted before for stating EXACTLY what I am right now. Anyone working in customer service especially in retail know you meet and see crazies of all colors. She may have thought he was drunk or on drugs. But I doubt unless there is sufficient reason to automatically think she just didn't care to label her that way. Or assume that due to the area they were in that it was due to racism of any kind. Again no offense.

I was born in Dallas, TX. I live in Indianapolis now. Have lived all over Indiana. Have also lived in Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, and Ohio. I married a black women. I am white btw. The media and Hollywood help inflate that ALOT. Back in the day. Yes, Absolutely. It was a travesty. There still and always will be idiot racists of all colors. If not Hollywood and the Media would surely invent racism again. I have known people that are bigots of every color. But its not prevalent anymore. And imo it doesn't matter. This country elected a Black President with a muslim middle name less than 10 years after 9/11. I am very proud of that accomplishment. Having said that labeling the lady in the segment or claiming she thought less of someone because of their skin color is ignorant imo. No offense and please don't take anything I say personally. Everyone has their opinions. And I have been roasted before for stating EXACTLY what I am right now. Anyone working in customer service especially in retail know you meet and see crazies of all colors. She may have thought he was drunk or on drugs. But I doubt unless there is sufficient reason to automatically think she just didn't care to label her that way. Or assume that due to the area they were in that it was due to racism of any kind. Again no offense.

Completely agree with you. I'm down in Houston and we hear this stereotype far too often.

To this day I cannot watch the Donald Eugene Webb segment or the Wendy Camp. Unsolved Mysteries to my knowledge never updated the Camp story. I read that for my own years ago and saw the pictures and its tragic. Christophe Day was very tragic as well. The Webb and Camp segments make me so mad. The audacity of some people. Lack of regard for life simply amazes me. If I was given the opportunity to throw the switch on that old bitch that murdered Wendy and the rest of her family. Or Donald Eugene Webb I volunteer and happily do it. May sound like a double standard. But it irks the hell outta me. Christopher Day, The entire ordeal makes me want to cry. Ex's of both sexes can be so cruel to each other.

I don't think UM updated the Camp story because everything unfolded after production had ceased on the show.

I could be mistaken, but that's my best guess.

Yeah i don't think she did either. I really think if she did Mr Owens probably wouldn't be missing now. I don't want to make assumptions or start a political debate but aren't some people in southern USA really racist? Maybe less importance is put on black people...

Yes, that is the truth.

Yes, that is the truth.

Can confirm.

And some people are up north and out west, too. I think I met more openly racist people in Hawaii than anywhere else I've ever lived.

Can confirm.

And some people are up north and out west, too. I think I met more openly racist people in Hawaii than anywhere else I've ever lived.

MegtheEgg86, thanks for your insight. I can confirm your post, save for Hawaii (never been). I'm an African American woman and travel a lot for business. Still love the USA, but it is what it is. ;)

I don't think UM updated the Camp story because everything unfolded after production had ceased on the show.

I could be mistaken, but that's my best guess.
I think you're right on that actually

No offense taken!

For me, it has to be Rachel Runyan.. I am from the same area she came from and it still breaks my heart every time I watch it. I also have to mention Nyleen Kay Marshall... That episode was hard for me to watch.. I kept crying and hoping that whoever took her would return her to her family...
Yeah I agree here. Scott Johnson especially since his cause of death was suspicious. Gord Mcallister. Molly bish's mom, Matt Flores.

Bill Day looking for his son Christoph after his bitch of a mother Betty ran off with him and you know the rest.

I was born in Dallas, TX. I live in Indianapolis now. Have lived all over Indiana. Have also lived in Arkansas, Kentucky, Virginia, and Ohio. I married a black women. I am white btw. The media and Hollywood help inflate that ALOT. Back in the day. Yes, Absolutely. It was a travesty. There still and always will be idiot racists of all colors. If not Hollywood and the Media would surely invent racism again. I have known people that are bigots of every color. But its not prevalent anymore. And imo it doesn't matter. This country elected a Black President with a muslim middle name less than 10 years after 9/11. I am very proud of that accomplishment. Having said that labeling the lady in the segment or claiming she thought less of someone because of their skin color is ignorant imo. No offense and please don't take anything I say personally. Everyone has their opinions. And I have been roasted before for stating EXACTLY what I am right now. Anyone working in customer service especially in retail know you meet and see crazies of all colors. She may have thought he was drunk or on drugs. But I doubt unless there is sufficient reason to automatically think she just didn't care to label her that way. Or assume that due to the area they were in that it was due to racism of any kind. Again no offense.

I agree here. I also agree with the other replies. In this case I never thought about a race issue until now and I don't think it played any part. Sadly the elderly face these problems and UM just showcased it to the public. In hindsight it's easy to say that the attendant should have helped him more. But the fact that she went on the show to try to help shows her heart was in the right place.

In Texas I used to see the silver alert DOT signs all of the time. Older folks start losing their memory and do strange things. It's part of life.

I think people are too quick to play the race card or accuse someone based on a stereotype etc. but it does exist and people are very quick to deny it in public. Denial is the word I would use to describe it. It is very much an underlying issue that people don't like to discuss peacefully but the tension builds and leads to arguments on other subjects and in some cases violent outbursts.

and it's not just a southern thing it exists everywhere as Meg pointed out. It all has to do with history location and culture. For whatever reason people are very traditional and they like to stick to their own thing without much flexibility of changing or trying something different. Being white and Hispanic and moving around my whole life I've had to accept diversity and embrace it now. Sometimes when I go home to the small town my family lives in I wonder how they do it. But like John cougar said there is something to be said about the simple small town life!!


the south has a culture of being rebellious against the system and its not just about race. It goes deeper than that. And I think that's why you see our political system so divisive. I come from a bi racial family and I can tell you both sides of my family have made racist comments about me! Usually joking but you never know how they really feel because sometimes you hear people say things not about you but others in a negative way and I think well I'm that too! And of corse they say oh not you lol. Luckily I was loved and accepted by both families so just prove that love is stronger than all of our differences.

You are often a product of your upbringing but I think the younger generation is more experienced with racial equality and diversity and isn't into the hate that we sometimes see in isolated cases in the media. I went to a school that was racially diverse and we all hung out together. People had their groups but we didn't care about that. I grew up in Texas and everywhere I lived was racially diverse. The church I went to was racially diverse and people genuinely loved one another. When I lived in ohio the lines were really drawn. I did not see as much diversity in their neighborhoods and schools and most big cities have this in some areas. I just noticed that suburban life in north Texas is more racially diverse than suburban life in Cincinnati area. The one cool thing about Cincinnati where I lived was that the whole town would come together for events like the opening day reds parade or the Memorial Day fireworks over the Ohio river. Cincinnati has a lot of culture (even small town vibe)compared to other large cities that I've been to.

the south hasn't only been bad in fact I loved it. I've been to more than one smaller town in Texas where I was the only non white person (I'm half) but I was still getting the who are you looks.

Bill Day looking for his son Christoph after his bitch of a mother Betty ran off with him and you know the rest.
True

Can confirm.

And some people are up north and out west, too. I think I met more openly racist people in Hawaii than anywhere else I've ever lived.
Haha love the new pic.

I never knew how much distinct native culture that Hawaii had unique to the states until I went there. And of corse they have a history that is unique as
Well that I wish I would have studied more.

I eluded to location in my other post. As you know Korea is a mostly a homogenous country. They are very nice to Americans and love American culture. They love baseball, golf, comedy, alcohol, pop music. Sometimes you feel like you are in america. With that said I've heard more than one Korean tell stories of how their families were very upset when they married or dated out of the Korean culture. I think here like the states the younger generation is more open minded and accepting of others.

This is an interesting read that would open eyes of people that stereotype simply based on lack of experience or education. I have been guilty of it too. Diversity is a good thing when accepted but can be a double edged sword when hate and violence against others is tolerated. If you look at the map Afghanistan is one of the most diverse nations but they are also war torn because of it


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2326136/Worlds-apart-Uganda-tops-list-ethnically-diverse-countries-Earth-South-Korea-comes-bottom.html

Good lord I got off topic. I apologize. I'm so bored waiting for my hockey game to start at 2am :(

I can think of so many sad segments that i just can't forget. Morris Davis' Brother Cliff was also one that got me, he was clearly heartbroken

MegtheEgg86, thanks for your insight. I can confirm your post, save for Hawaii (never been). I'm an African American woman and travel a lot for business. Still love the USA, but it is what it is. ;)
You're going to laugh at me, but I imagined you as a guy just because Danny Wheeler is your profile picture. D'oh!

You're going to laugh at me, but I imagined you as a guy just because Danny Wheeler is your profile picture. D'oh!

LOL too funny!!

I watched that segment again yesterday and Danny Wheeler and Bob Bean always make me laugh! Best segment ever!

I dont know if anyone has already mentioned it but one of the most saddest segments was the Bird Rd Rapist segment, Luis Diaz broke my heart. Poor man spending all that time in prison for crimes he didnt commit

I dont know if anyone has already mentioned it but one of the most saddest segments was the Bird Rd Rapist segment, Luis Diaz broke my heart. Poor man spending all that time in prison for crimes he didnt commit
For sure. Perhaps the worst wrongful conviction I've ever seen on the show.

Yes absoultley! I know he was released but did he get compensation?

Definitely agree with the Christophe Day case, it really broke my heart when the update showed on the screen and said that he died. Last I heard, Bill Day was going to France to see where his son is buried, although some people think that Betty made up the death so that Bill would stop looking for Christophe. Hope he finds out the answers.

The case about Alberta Elaine Schambier was sad too. Her father Joseph searched for almost 50 years only to learn that she had been killed by her estranged husband in an explosion when she was 18 years old.

Not trying to hijack this, just didn't feel the need to start a new topic on it.. This isn't really 'creepy', though, I suppose you could look at it that way if you wanted.

To me, this would be one of the most heartbreaking segments.. Martha Hinkle

Family had been searching for her for 50 years.. They found her in May of 1991.. But.. She had died April 19, 1991

That's horrible.. I mean, they had a nice reunion with her kids, but.. to miss her by that little amount of time..

A 50 year search that comes up basically 2 weeks short.

I know I said this in the case thread, but my heart breaks for Permon Gilbert’s family.

Imagine finding out your father/husband was a philanderer in such a violent and traumatic manner.

The Mabel Woods segment. Those poor dogs. I can't even watch it.

I was always saddened by the Victor Simon case, the boy whose mother died giving birth to him and hence was put up for adoption. I also was always saddened by the Radio Santa Claus, who was looking for his daughter Alberta only to find she died years earlier thinking both her parwnts were dead.

I have never seen the Christophe Day case, but it sounds equally sad.

-Victor Simon (Shiman)

The lies told by the school counselor about his graduation were brutal.

The Mabel Woods segment. Those poor dogs. I can't even watch it.

Same here. I won't watch it to this day, it's just so heart-breaking.

Same here. I won't watch it to this day, it's just so heart-breaking.

What a sweet woman Mable was, though. I love how she asked the UM producers to have Stack inform the viewers that no dogs were harmed when they filmed the reenactment.