Ozzy Osbourne has wrecked fans' hopes for another Black Sabbath reunion, insisting the group is like an ex-girlfriend he no longer wants to date. The rocker refuses to rule out another tour with his old band mates, but insists it isn't something he's planning for the immediate future.

Osbourne, who is currently embroiled in a copyright battle with Sabbath guitarist Tony Iommi, says, "I'm not gonna say I've written it (reunion) out forever, but right now I don't think there is any chance. But who knows what the future holds for me? If it's my destiny, fine."

Black Sabbath last toured with Ozzy as frontman in 2005 and the band mates last reunited to perform at their Rock & Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony in 2006.

Osbourne adds, "I had girlfriends when I was younger and I would go, 'Oh, I would really like to go back with Shirley,' and then you do and you go to yourself, 'What the f**k was I thinking?'"

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Black Sabbath IS Tony Iommi. Ozzy hasn't seemed too interested in contributing much to the band in the past thirty years or so. He and his *lovely* wife seem to want to cash in on Black Sabbath's popularity.


Let me correct that--Black Sabbath IS Tony Iommi AND Geezer Butler. Geezer was the one who wrote the band's lyrics, except when Ronnie James Dio stepped in and wrote his own.

I am always fascinated about Black Sabbath and Tony Iommi. He has always been my inspiration on guitar. I have heard so much about Ozzy that he no longer interests me, but Tony is the Man. So dark, so quiet....except when he roars on the Gibson SG. I got to meet him almost five years ago at Ozzfest. Rock royalty. A definite class act. :cool:

Black Sabbath IS Tony Iommi. Ozzy hasn't seemed too interested in contributing much to the band in the past thirty years or so. He and his *lovely* wife seem to want to cash in on Black Sabbath's popularity.


Let me correct that--Black Sabbath IS Tony Iommi AND Geezer Butler. Geezer was the one who wrote the band's lyrics, except when Ronnie James Dio stepped in and wrote his own.

I am always fascinated about Black Sabbath and Tony Iommi. He has always been my inspiration on guitar. I have heard so much about Ozzy that he no longer interests me, but Tony is the Man. So dark, so quiet....except when he roars on the Gibson SG. I got to meet him almost five years ago at Ozzfest. Rock royalty. A definite class act. :cool:

Awesome that you got to meet Tony!!:rock: That's also great that he was very cool to you. One of my big peeves is you have somebody you admire for so long, and then you finally get the opportunity to meet them, they end up being a jerk. Yes, I know people have bad days, but fans are their bread and butter!!

Anyway, the one thing that I always admired about Tony is that he still plays great guitar despite the fact that he had the tips of a few fingers sliced off when he was younger.

I agree about Ozzy, too. I still like him, but woooo, talk about over-exposure these days!!

I think Ozzy is pissed off and jealous because Tony and Geezer reunited with Ronnie James Dio a few years back and went on tour as Heaven And Hell.

Iommi said in an interview on the Heaven and Hell Live DVD that he'd been playing the old Sabbath songs for 10 years since the reunion and there was nothing more he could do with them.

Heaven and Hell has released a new album, whereas an attempt to do a Sabbath reunion album ended up coming up bupkiss!

Ozzy is done. He should get over himself.

Awesome that you got to meet Tony!!:rock: That's also great that he was very cool to you. One of my big peeves is you have somebody you admire for so long, and then you finally get the opportunity to meet them, they end up being a jerk. Yes, I know people have bad days, but fans are their bread and butter!!

Anyway, the one thing that I always admired about Tony is that he still plays great guitar despite the fact that he had the tips of a few fingers sliced off when he was younger.

I agree about Ozzy, too. I still like him, but woooo, talk about over-exposure these days!!
Yeah, it was awesome to meet him, I didn't really say anything to him, his assistant was there to open copies of his CD 'Fused' that he did with vocalist Glenn Hughes, and Tony would sign them, and all I said was "Thanks, Tony." :notworthy He was very quiet and polite and didn't really say much of anything to his fans, very reserved, but it was literally meeting rock royalty! Very dignified, and had a certain charm. All dressed in black, I was wondering how he enjoyed the sun! I didn't want to act like a fanboy, though I was just in awe of him--the man who inspired me to play guitar! :rock: It was a short but memorable moment.

Actually, the album that made me want to play like him was not 'Paranoid' as people would think, but their debut album, with the song "Warning". That song has got some of the most intense, totally loud guitar solos in the world!
I have never heard anything like that on any album since. And this album is forty years old!! :cool:

Who knows, I would love it if I met him in a more professional capacity someday!

You know, I don't know what it is why Ozzy has to be so over-exposed to no end these days. I miss the days over thirty years ago when he was basically the vocalist of Black Sabbath and a person who spoke the truth about the state of the world and was a great showman with a band. Now he's just cashing in on the popularity of being a reality sitcom dad and milking the notoriety he once got from biting the heads of small winged animals nearly thirty years ago.... :rolleyes:

I think Ozzy is pissed off and jealous because Tony and Geezer reunited with Ronnie James Dio a few years back and went on tour as Heaven And Hell.

Iommi said in an interview on the Heaven and Hell Live DVD that he'd been playing the old Sabbath songs for 10 years since the reunion and there was nothing more he could do with them.

Heaven and Hell has released a new album, whereas an attempt to do a Sabbath reunion album ended up coming up bupkiss!

Ozzy is done. He should get over himself.
About Ozzy, stick a fork in him, he is DONE!!!! ohno:

Ozzy IS jealous that Tony Iommi is able to successfully pull off the reunion of the other popular Black Sabbath lineup that didn't include him, and that they have become more popular than anyone ever expected. People are excited to see songs that haven't been played in years, "Mob Rules", "Children Of the Sea", "Neon Knights", "Falling Off the Edge Of the World", "Time Machine", and "Heaven and Hell". The Ronnie James Dio lineup style has been more in keeping with what Black Sabbath has been doing for the past few decades than the classic lineup with Ozzy.

Now they've got "Iron Man" playing on the radio for the 764 zillionth time right now. :rolleyes: Come on, people, there's more to Sabbath than just that song or anything off 'Paranoid'!!!

Sabbath was getting to be this pathetic "nostalgia act" for a while, only reuniting just to play Ozzfest, and Ozzy having very little to do with it other than trying to capitalize on it. Several years ago, he and Black Sabbath were about to do new songs together for an album, but Ozzy just got fed up and felt they "weren't good enough" for him and the album got scrapped. He felt, what if the album bombed? Well, a comeback album would have been a thousand times better than the past several albums he's done solo that have been pretty mediocre. A new Sabbath album would have been a big deal for fans. I think he's just not happy he's not in the driver's seat in Sabbath, as with his own solo career. And we all know that $haron is the real puppetmaster behind his career, as well.

Geezer Butler even said that it took forever back in the day to get Ozzy to do anything in the band, to nail a perfect take to a song, while Ronnie James
Dio got it on the first try. Ronnie was very professional. I'm looking forward to new material from Heaven and Hell, they say it's even better than the current album, but Ronnie still has to deal with his cancer treatment.

Yeah, it was awesome to meet him, I didn't really say anything to him, his assistant was there to open copies of his CD 'Fused' that he did with vocalist Glenn Hughes, and Tony would sign them, and all I said was "Thanks, Tony." :notworthy He was very quiet and polite and didn't really say much of anything to his fans, very reserved, but it was literally meeting rock royalty! Very dignified, and had a certain charm. All dressed in black, I was wondering how he enjoyed the sun! I didn't want to act like a fanboy, though I was just in awe of him--the man who inspired me to play guitar! :rock: It was a short but memorable moment.

Actually, the album that made me want to play like him was not 'Paranoid' as people would think, but their debut album, with the song "Warning". That song has got some of the most intense, totally loud guitar solos in the world!
I have never heard anything like that on any album since. And this album is forty years old!! :cool:

Who knows, I would love it if I met him in a more professional capacity someday!

You know, I don't know what it is why Ozzy has to be so over-exposed to no end these days. I miss the days over thirty years ago when he was basically the vocalist of Black Sabbath and a person who spoke the truth about the state of the world and was a great showman with a band. Now he's just cashing in on the popularity of being a reality sitcom dad and milking the notoriety he once got from biting the heads of small winged animals nearly thirty years ago.... :rolleyes:


Extended Iommi solo in Warning = GOD

Extended Iommi solo in Warning = GOD
EXACTLY!!!!! :rock: :guitar: :guitar: :rock:

The solo that made me want to play guitar!!!! When I was about 14, I sat and tried to learn it! Never really got it right, but I sure had fun trying!!


Killer avatar, btw!! :drool: :D

Here is my CD copy of 'Fused', signed by Tony Iommi at Ozzfest 2005!!!!! :rock: :rock:

Awesome! Thanks for the compliment BTW.

I hate it when people actually bag on Tony, saying he can't play a good solo. Boy they couldn't be more incorrect. If Warning doesn't convince them, then they suck. Or, maybe they should check out his solos in Black Sabbath, N.I.B., Children of the Grave, Into the Void and especially his stuff in Vol. 4, a guitar lover's dream. His solos in Wheels of Confusion, Snowblind and Under the Sun get me everytime. I know for sure there are others, those are just some of my favorite Iommi solos.

OZZY OSBOURNE Wins Round 1 Against TONY IOMMI In BLACK SABBATH Name Dispute - Feb. 26, 2010

According to the New York Post, a Manhattan federal judge ruled yesterday (Thursday, February 25) that Ozzy Osbourne can proceed with his lawsuit against guitarist Tony Iommi over use of the BLACK SABBATH name.

Ozzy filed a lawsuit against Iommi in May 2009, claiming that Iommi illegally took sole ownership of the band's name in a filing with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.

Osbourne is suing Iommi for a 50 percent interest in the "Black Sabbath" trademark, along with a portion of Iommi's profits from use of the name.

The Manhattan federal court suit also charges that Osbourne's "signature lead vocals" are largely responsible for the band's "extraordinary success," noting that its popularity plummeted during his absence from 1980 through 1996.

Lawyer Andrew DeVore argued yesterday that Osbourne signed away all his rights to the BLACK SABBATH trademark after he quit the band in 1979.

Osbourne's lawyer, Howard Shire, called that agreement a "red herring" that was "repudiated" when the singer rejoined in 1997 and took over "quality control" of the band's merchandise, tours and recordings.

In a statement released on May 29, 2009, Ozzy said about his decision to sue Iommi, "It is with great regret that I had to resort to legal action against my long-term partner Tony Iommi, but after three years of trying to resolve this issue amicably, I feel I have no other recourse.

"As of the mid-1990s, after constant and numerous changes in band members, the brand of 'BLACK SABBATH' was literally in the toilet and Tony Iommi (touring under the name BLACK SABBATH) was reduced to performing in clubs. Since 1997, when Geezer [Butler, bass], Bill [Ward, drums] and myself rejoined the band, BLACK SABBATH has returned to its former glory as we headlined sold-out arenas and amphitheatres playing to upwards of 50,000 people at each show around the world. We worked collectively to restore credibility and bring dignity back to the name 'BLACK SABBATH,' which led to the band being inducted into the U.K. and U.S. Rock And Roll Hall of Fames in 2005 and 2006, respectively.

"Throughout the last 12 years, it was my management representatives who oversaw the marketing and quality control of the 'BLACK SABBATH' brand through Ozzfest, touring, merchandising and album reissues. The name 'BLACK SABBATH' now has a worldwide prestige and merchandising value that it would not have had by continuing on the road it was on prior to the 1997 reunion tour.

"Tony, I am so sorry it's had to get to this point by me having to take this action against you. I don't have the right to speak for Geezer and Bill, but I feel that morally and ethically the trademark should be owned by the four of us equally. I hope that by me taking this first step that it will ultimately end up that way. We've all worked too hard and long in our careers to allow you to sell merchandise that features all our faces, old BLACK SABBATH album covers and band logos, and then you tell us that you own the copyright.

"We're all in our 60s now. The BLACK SABBATH legacy should live on long after we have all gone.

"Please do the right thing."

Osbourne added in a separate online post, "I am very saddened that I've had to take legal action against Tony. This is something that I've tried to avoid for years. I am not Geezer or Bill's voice. However, 'till the day I die I will not change my mind on this issue. The BLACK SABBATH trademark should be equally owned by Geezer, Bill, Tony and I as the true BLACK SABBATH lineup is Tony, Geezer, Bill and I. We've all been mates since school. I've always said there is an invisible thread that holds us together.

"Tony, let's get this ridiculous issue sorted and move on with our lives. You're 61, I'm 60. I hope that we've got a good 20 years left in us. But if not, God forbid something happens to you. What's going to happen to the BLACK SABBATH trademark? Who's going to oversee it? Don't you think after we're long gone the rights should stay in your family, my family, Bill's family and Geezer's family?"

Ozzy's suit follows one filed by Iommi in December 2008 against Live Nation. In that filing, Iommi claims the concert giant sold merchandise bearing the band's logo, despite the 2006 expiration of a merchandising deal, reportedly worth nearly $80 million. Soon after that agreement concluded, Iommi reclaimed the band's trademark.

Iommi's suit argues Live Nation continued to sell more than 100 items of merchandise featuring the band's likeness, name and logo, despite the receipt of cease-and-desist orders from the guitarist's camp. Iommi's suit seeks damages in the amount of three times the profits from the merchandise sales, plus a halt to the BLACK SABBATH product sales.

Iommi and SABBATH bassist Geezer Butler both said some less than kind things about working with Osbourne in a spring 2009 interview with Decibel magazine. The pair released a new studio album as HEAVEN & HELL, the post-Ozzy version of SABBATH featuring vocalist Ronnie James Dio, and Butler said that working with Dio was much easier than Osbourne. He explained, "Ronnie's a songwriter in his own right — he's got tons of ideas. Whereas Ozzy . . . in the old days, he'd come up with a vocal line and I'd write the lyrics. Ronnie is 100 percent involved in both the musical side and the vocal side, and he writes his own lyrics as well."

Butler added that Osbourne didn't take him seriously as a songwriter, saying, "If we were with Ozzy and I came in with the killer riff of all time, Ozzy wouldn't even think of doing it because I'm not the guitarist and that's the way he thinks . . . That's why it was so bloody hard to write anything."

Butler said about HEAVEN & HELL's debut CD, "The Devil You Know", "If we'd written this album with Ozzy, we'd still be working on the first track."

Iommi added that there was a sharp difference between the singers live as well, saying, "It was great being with Ozzy on the road . . . but with Ronnie it's a lot different, because we go out and we know exactly what we're gonna be doing. With Ozzy, we didn't really know. It was touch and go sometimes on some of those early shows, whether he was gonna turn up, if he'd be able to sing, if his voice was gone, or what. We'd have to cancel shows, which Geezer and myself really hated. But with Ronnie, we've never canceled a show."

Tony Iommi's filing with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office:


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