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XiaoGouPi 11-24-2009, 10:56 AM I just saw the segment about this lady who got stranded in Jamaica with a friend in 2000 and subsequently disappeared.
I realise that nobody has been posting about this. I wonder does anybody have any updates on the case? :confused:
The most recent updates I can find through searching the net are these 2 listed websites below:
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=2428.0
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kirschhoch_claudia.html
The nearest info states that as at 2007, there has been no sign of her yet. Her family had her legally declared deceased in 2002. :(
They filed a case against the resort she stayed in, for tampering with evidence and causing emotional distress which began trial in 2005. Does anybody have any update on the lawsuit? :confused:
Based what the segment showed, I am inclined to believe the obvious suspect is the bartender, Anthony Grant.
The police guard dog actually tracked Claudia's scent to his house, the bed and a knife! And subsequently to his car, the backseat, and the trunk!:eek:
This is more than incriminating enough to say that Anthony Grant though may not have 'killed' her, he more or less knows where she had disappeared to.. right? :rolleyes:
I am shocked to learn that the police didnt even consider him a suspect!! :mad:
I think the most likely scenario is that Grant got Claudia to his house, tried to rape her, she resisted, so he took the knife and killed her. Then hid her body in the trunk of his car and proceeded to dump the body.
What do you think happened to Claudia Kirschhoch? :confused:
Mastermind 11-24-2009, 01:56 PM What do you think happened to Claudia Kirschhoch?
Contrary to popular belief, Jamaica can be a very dangerous country. It's so dangerous that police barricade the tourist areas from the general poplulace.
if a tourist is not careful, they can be kidnapped, raped, murdered and robbed.
There are numerous ways that Claudia could have met her fate on the Island.
Based what the segment showed, I am inclined to believe the obvious suspect is the bartender, Anthony Grant.
The police guard dog actually tracked Claudia's scent to his house, the bed and a knife! And subsequently to his car, the backseat, and the trunk!
That may mean nothing. All that says is that Claudia was at his house, which isn't strange considering they were romantic together. The scent on the knife could be residual.
Where was the blood? Where were Claudia's posession". Where did Anthony Grant kill her.
I am shocked to learn that the police didnt even consider him a suspect!!
I trust the the police's judgement on this
1. The Jamaican constublary is actually one of the better police departments in the Carribean Islands (second only to Cuba, of course.But they have stricter laws.;) ) They are not like Aruba's police.
2. The Jamaican police deal with several homicides a year. Kingston especially is a violent city. A lot of the cases they clear are drug murders, which are difficult to begin with. They don't lack experience.
They filed a case against the resort she stayed in, for tampering with evidence and causing emotional distress which began trial in 2005. Does anybody have any update on the lawsuit?
Boy, the biggest crooks in Jamaica are the people in resorts!. I wouldn;t trust them, period!
I think the most likely scenario is that Grant got Claudia to his house, tried to rape her, she resisted, so he took the knife and killed her.
The problem I have with the rape theory is that I think Claudia was more than willing to oblige with Grant's needs. An may have done so before she disappeared.
The hills of Jamaica are an mysterious place. Somebody could hide out there for years and never be heard from again. The blue mountain hills are almost like the Appalachian Hills in
Add to the fact that it isn't that unusual to have white woman that part of the area, due to tourists, mixed-race, British nationals and celebreties looking to hide out.
The possibility remains that Claudia may be living in those very hills. Against her will or not.
curiousasever 09-15-2011, 05:52 PM i suppose claudia was raped and murdered, it seems righ that he killed her in his room somewhere got rid of the evidence that had blood and cleaned off the knife and his scent was still on the blade. apparently she must have had an affair with him which leads on to murder to be exact he tried to rape her and he did so he killed her and then put her body in the trunk of his car i don't know where her body is though. hmmm
TheCars1986 08-20-2012, 02:04 PM Just watched this one today and I really think Anthony Grant is the obvious suspect. For one, he was known to have ties with Claudia, since she told her travel companion that the two went out to a club the night before she disappeared. Second, according to the Charley Project website, Grant called out from work on the day she disappeared and stayed out of work for the next four days. Coincidence? Tack on the fact that the dog traced Claudia's scent to Grant's residence and I think you have more than enough to declare Grant as a viable suspect.
Victoria81 04-16-2015, 11:20 AM Same here...shocked she doesn't have more people interested in this case.
LooksLikeCRicci 04-16-2015, 12:08 PM I'm VERY interested in this case. Like the rest of you, I wish it got more attention.
Victoria81 04-16-2015, 12:13 PM Contrary to popular belief, Jamaica can be a very dangerous country. It's so dangerous that police barricade the tourist areas from the general poplulace.
if a tourist is not careful, they can be kidnapped, raped, murdered and robbed.
There are numerous ways that Claudia could have met her fate on the Island.
Based what the segment showed, I am inclined to believe the obvious suspect is the bartender, Anthony Grant.
That may mean nothing. All that says is that Claudia was at his house, which isn't strange considering they were romantic together. The scent on the knife could be residual.
Where was the blood? Where were Claudia's posession". Where did Anthony Grant kill her.
I trust the the police's judgement on this
1. The Jamaican constublary is actually one of the better police departments in the Carribean Islands (second only to Cuba, of course.But they have stricter laws.;) ) They are not like Aruba's police.
2. The Jamaican police deal with several homicides a year. Kingston especially is a violent city. A lot of the cases they clear are drug murders, which are difficult to begin with. They don't lack experience.
Boy, the biggest crooks in Jamaica are the people in resorts!. I wouldn;t trust them, period!
The problem I have with the rape theory is that I think Claudia was more than willing to oblige with Grant's needs. An may have done so before she disappeared.
The hills of Jamaica are an mysterious place. Somebody could hide out there for years and never be heard from again. The blue mountain hills are almost like the Appalachian Hills in
Add to the fact that it isn't that unusual to have white woman that part of the area, due to tourists, mixed-race, British nationals and celebreties looking to hide out.
The possibility remains that Claudia may be living in those very hills. Against her will or not.
Funny you say that. On American Justice or some show like that, they profiled a crime and said Jamaica was 98% crime free. I like hearing your side.
Hambone2421 04-16-2015, 12:20 PM Funny you say that. On American Justice or some show like that, they profiled a crime and said Jamaica was 98% crime free. I like hearing your side.
Mastermind is definitely correct on this. Jamaica is very dangerous.
Victoria81 04-16-2015, 01:10 PM Mastermind is definitely correct on this. Jamaica is very dangerous.
This case seemed open and shut with what the dog came to find...seems liek they could go on that.
Hambone2421 05-12-2015, 02:13 PM This case seemed open and shut with what the dog came to find...seems liek they could go on that.
In America, most definitely. Seems like in foreign countries, if the victim is an American citizen, they do not want to get too involved.
I went to Jamaica in 2007 and was basically told not to leave the resort. Even walking the beach in front of the resort I was constantly bugged by locals trying to sell me drugs or looking for money. I would not go back. Plenty of beaches where I live without the harassment.
Hambone2421 05-12-2015, 03:12 PM I went to Jamaica in 2007 and was basically told not to leave the resort. Even walking the beach in front of the resort I was constantly bugged by locals trying to sell me drugs or looking for money. I would not go back. Plenty of beaches where I live without the harassment.
My wife and I are going on a trip in August and the Sandals resort in Jamaica was one of the destination we discussed. However, a friend of ours has been and had a very similar encounter to what you just described. I just wouldn't go anywhere near that country anymore.
wiseguy182 05-12-2015, 05:00 PM You know it's funny, I've been watching a lot of Press Your Luck episodes again from the 80's and Jamaica has been on the big board a lot lately. I don't think I'd want to go there. They also have a crap ton of Mexican vacations and places around there, and I think I'd rather hit the whammy. At least I wouldn't be in fear of my life.
But the trips to Europe, Canada and Australia sound cool. African Safari also sounds fun.
Bermuda is another weird one. I just hope the people that won it didn't get lost in the triangle.
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-03-2015, 10:07 PM You know it's funny, I've been watching a lot of Press Your Luck episodes again from the 80's and Jamaica has been on the big board a lot lately. I don't think I'd want to go there. They also have a crap ton of Mexican vacations and places around there, and I think I'd rather hit the whammy. At least I wouldn't be in fear of my life.
But the trips to Europe, Canada and Australia sound cool. African Safari also sounds fun.
Bermuda is another weird one. I just hope the people that won it didn't get lost in the triangle.
Hmmm I understand the reservation(or lack there of for the plural)about both Jamaica and Mexico and there aren't too many places outside of the resort areas in Jamaica that I would go to but the resort areas are safe you just can't trust everyone. Same with Mexico. Heck i would say that those resort areas are safer than some areas in our own country. Resort places like those are vital to the economy of those respective countries so they do a pretty good job keeping tourists safe and secluded to those areas. i know that the mexican border areas are dangerous, but I've been to other places in Mexico and they are generally safe. It seems like just a few years ago(more like 10) I lived in AZ and a lot of my friends would go to rocky point on the weekends, but it got so dangerous in the Mexican side of the border that people quit going.
As far as Claudia I always got the sense the guy that was her romantic interest was involved somehow, but that was the only thing I can remember from the segment. If she wandered off the resort area with him willing or not who knows what happened. This was a shame much like the Amy Bradley case.
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-25-2015, 05:37 PM Ok so this was on lifetime today and it was edited from the RS version. I read on um wiki the bartender called in sick for 4 days during and after her disappearance????????????????????????????????????????!!????????????????????????!??????????????????????????!????????????????????????????????????!?????????
And the dogs hit on his car boots and knife??? Wtf???
LooksLikeCRicci 08-25-2015, 06:35 PM Ok so this was on lifetime today and it was edited from the RS version. I read on um wiki the bartender called in sick for 4 days during and after her disappearance????????????????????????????????????????!!????????????????????????!??????????????????????????!????????????????????????????????????!?????????
And the dogs hit on his car boots and knife??? Wtf???
That was also my understanding.
I do think Anthony Grant most likely had something to do with Claudia's disappearance. The "conspiracy theorist" in me does think that it was brushed under the carpet as to not mess with Jamaica's tourism revenue.
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-25-2015, 10:25 PM That was also my understanding.
I do think Anthony Grant most likely had something to do with Claudia's disappearance. The "conspiracy theorist" in me does think that it was brushed under the carpet as to not mess with Jamaica's tourism revenue.
Hmmm well the erased vehicle log and botched room cleanup makes yA wonder.
RobinW 08-25-2015, 11:05 PM Ok so this was on lifetime today and it was edited from the RS version. I read on um wiki the bartender called in sick for 4 days during and after her disappearance????????????????????????????????????????!!????????????????????????!??????????????????????????!????????????????????????????????????!?????????
And the dogs hit on his car boots and knife??? Wtf???
Believe it or not, this is an actual quote from the transcript on the official UM page:
According to Detective Frater, Grant is not considered a suspect in Claudia Kirschhoch's disappearance:
"We interviewed him for several weeks. We just don't find enough evidence to, in any way, believe that Grant is involved in her disappearance, other than that he was associated with her."
HUH?! I don't know, I think the four days calling in sick and the hits from the dog sounds like a boatload of circumstantial evidence to me! Maybe not enough for an arrest, but I don't know how he could not be considered a suspect.
WishfulDreamer 08-26-2015, 12:30 AM Believe it or not, this is an actual quote from the transcript on the official UM page:
HUH?! I don't know, I think the four days calling in sick and the hits from the dog sounds like a boatload of circumstantial evidence to me! Maybe not enough for an arrest, but I don't know how he could not be considered a suspect.
Sounds like he and the investigators from the Debbie Wolfe case are just like peas in a pod. Add the people who said Doug Johnston could have shot himself when no gun was at the scene to that pod. :rolleyes:
LooksLikeCRicci 08-26-2015, 01:53 PM Believe it or not, this is an actual quote from the transcript on the official UM page:
HUH?! I don't know, I think the four days calling in sick and the hits from the dog sounds like a boatload of circumstantial evidence to me! Maybe not enough for an arrest, but I don't know how he could not be considered a suspect.
I don't know Jamaica's laws, but I would argue that information is more than enough to get a search warrant and potentially enough to charge someone with the murder. Getting a conviction is a completely different story, obviously.
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-26-2015, 06:45 PM Believe it or not, this is an actual quote from the transcript on the official UM page:
HUH?! I don't know, I think the four days calling in sick and the hits from the dog sounds like a boatload of circumstantial evidence to me! Maybe not enough for an arrest, but I don't know how he could not be considered a suspect.
Yeah the detective had a sarcastic mannerism with his body language when he spit out that rhetoric. He's the only viable suspect lol. To me the next question is was it covered up by others like Cricci pointed out.
DALLASTEXAN!! 08-26-2015, 06:49 PM Sounds like he and the investigators from the Debbie Wolfe case are just like peas in a pod. Add the people who said Doug Johnston could have shot himself when no gun was at the scene to that pod. :rolleyes:
Hmmm haven't seen Debbie wolf in a while but yeah I remember the barrell gaffe. And Doug Johnston was just on lifetime too it's funny you bring that up. How that was found to be a suicide is beyond me.
Latka Gravas 04-24-2021, 11:09 AM Re: the CK segment, it's very evident that she met with foul play. I.e., she didn't just "disappear" from her life & go into the wilds of Jamaica to start a new life - ridiculous suggestion.
It seems that AG was the last person to see her alive, but they couldn't prove he had anything to do with her disappearance.
Too bad that the parents never got closure re: their daughter. Unfortunately, her mother passed away back in 2015.
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