Get a hit drama in here, stat!

Just a couple weeks into the fall television season, the prognosis is not looking good for NBC. To wit:

• The 'Jay Leno Show' experiment at 10PM is flailing. The premiere attracted 18 million viewers; now it averages in the 5-6 million range. And its getting trashed by the critics, like Nancy Franklin of the New Yorker, who scathingly writes, "The forensic evidence so far indicates that a kind of death is taking place before our eyes; the only question is whether what we're witnessing is an accident or a crime scene.

• The once-beloved 'Heroes' started season 4 with its weakest premiere numbers yet, falling an astonishing 46 percent from last year's opener. Consider that season 2's premiere netted 17 million viewers. NBC would kill for just half that these days.

• Returning favorite 'Law and Order: SVU' was down 34 percent

• New drama 'Mercy' notched a weak second place last Wednesday with 8.2 million viewers, and the big, action-filled 'Trauma' arrived nearly DOA Monday night with 6.9 million.

• Acclaimed new comedy 'Community' slipped from its premiere numbers by 26 percent. Even worse, NBC slid down to fourth place last Thursday, thanks to Fox's combination of 'Bones' and 'Fringe.'

Once the home of outstanding, Emmy Award-winning 10PM dramas like 'ER,' 'L.A. Law' and 'Hill Street Blues,' NBC seems to be on life support, surviving on cheap talk, reality and game shows. Perhaps it's too late and NBC is done for.

We really hope not, so here are some ideas on how to resuscitate the network:

1. Move 'The Jay Leno Show' to 8PM -- and trim it to half an hour
Look, we'd love if the show went away for good, but it's not going to happen. Leno's humor isn't too risque for 8PM, and can be paired with comedies ('Community' and 'Parks and Recreation' could move from Thursday), half-hour game shows or a 90-minute 'Biggest Loser.' This would open up the 10PM hour for great dramas again, speaking of which ...

2. Make great dramas, then treat them well
If 'Mercy' and 'Trauma' are your best offerings, NBC, that's just sad. 'Parenthood' looks promising, but it's for midseason and the lead role is being recast. But worse is how the network has treated its acclaimed dramas. 'Friday Night Lights' barely earned renewal and was banished to the dead zone that is, well, Friday nights. A similar fate awaits 'Southland.' 'Kings' was hidden on Saturdays over the summer, then canceled. If NBC is really dying, then doesn't it at least want to go out in style?

3. Give up on the Thursday comedy block, because it isn't working
'The Office' and '30 Rock' are cruising, but the Thursday edition of 'Saturday Night Live,' 'Parks and Recreation' and 'Community' are struggling. Use some common sense: If you're getting crushed, move out of the way. The 8PM hours on Tuesdays and Wednesdays look a bit less crowded.

4. At least air the good kind of reality TV
'The Biggest Loser' is fine; 'The Celebrity Apprentice' is gross. Take a page from corporate sibling Bravo, which developed its brand on 'Project Runway' (now on Lifetime) and 'Top Chef.' Heck, even their 'Real Housewives' franchise is better than most NBC reality shows ('I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here' ... really?!?).

5. If there's absolutely nothing cooking, raid the pantry
NBC is part of a big corporation that includes sister networks Bravo, Syfy, USA and Oxygen. Why not re-air some of their acclaimed hits, like 'Battlestar Galactica' or 'Burn Notice'? Call it the Friday Night Rewind or something.


http://insidetv.aol.com/2009/09/30/is-nbc-dead/#

I agree with that article. Well, they are obviously not Jay Leno fans. If they dump the guests and keep the monologue and headlines, I'll be a happy girl. :D NBC was stupid to mess with the late-night lineup in the first place. They tried to fix something that wasn't broken - they should've kept Jay on The Tonight Show, Conan on Late Night, etc. Heck, *I* could do a better job running NBC than these hacks!

Geez Jay's show isn't that bad, I can think of worse

Critics are such drama queens at times :rolleyes:

I agree with that article. Well, they are obviously not Jay Leno fans. If they dump the guests and keep the monologue and headlines, I'll be a happy girl. :D NBC was stupid to mess with the late-night lineup in the first place. They tried to fix something that wasn't broken - they should've kept Jay on The Tonight Show, Conan on Late Night, etc. Heck, *I* could do a better job running NBC than these hacks!
Monika, I wish you were running NBC instead of those hacks! You would do a much better job!

Monika, I wish you were running NBC instead of those hacks! You would do a much better job!
Why thank you, Marv - plus I need a job, anyway!! :lol:

NBC is run by idiots. I knew the Jay Leno Show was going to be a failure before it even aired. He should have stayed on the Tonight Show. The only show I watch on NBC right now is SVU and I have to DVR it because it's on opposite Criminal Minds. I won't even mention Chuck which is NBC's best show because it isn't going to be on until March. :rolleyes:

NBC is run by idiots. I knew the Jay Leno Show was going to be a failure before it even aired. He should have stayed on the Tonight Show. The only show I watch on NBC right now is SVU and I have to DVR it because it's on opposite Criminal Minds. I won't even mention Chuck which is NBC's best show because it isn't going to be on until March. :rolleyes:
Makes you long for the days of Supertrain, Manimal, Pink Lady & Jeff and David Cassidy: Man Undercover, doesn't it?? :rolleyes:

Makes you long for the days of Supertrain, Manimal, Pink Lady & Jeff and David Cassidy: Man Undercover, doesn't it?? :rolleyes:
It's hard to believe that this is the same network that Brandon Tartikoff used to run. Maybe the current people in charge love being the 4th place network. Their motto: Hey at least we aren't as low as the CW. lol

It's hard to believe that this is the same network that Brandon Tartikoff used to run. Maybe the current people in charge love being the 4th place network. Their motto: Hey at least we aren't as low as the CW. lol
Brandon Tartikoff - not only was he a terrific TV exec, from everything I've read about him, he seemed like a really terrific guy, too. He must be spinning in his grave at the current state of NBC. ohno:

Brandon Tartikoff - not only was he a terrific TV exec, from everything I've read about him, he seemed like a really terrific guy, too. He must be spinning in his grave at the current state of NBC. ohno:
Speaking of Brandon, NBC could really use an injection of Punky Power! right about now!

Brandon Tartikoff - not only was he a terrific TV exec, from everything I've read about him, he seemed like a really terrific guy, too. He must be spinning in his grave at the current state of NBC. ohno:
He was a Great person and a great entertainment President.. He actually gave low rated shows a chance and they ended up becoming hits....Cheers, Family Ties, Hill Street Blues, St. Elsewhere...Hunter, Knight Rider...and on and on and on. Networks cancel shows so early anymore. How is a show supposed to find an audience when it's canceled after only a few weeks? The best thing about him was that there wasn't any cheap reality shows on his network. :lol:

Speaking of Brandon, NBC could really use an injection of Punky Power! right about now!
That's another low rated show that he had faith in.

He was a Great person and a great entertainment President.. He actually gave low rated shows a chance and they ended up becoming hits....Cheers, Family Ties, Hill Street Blues, St. Elsewhere...Hunter, Knight Rider...and on and on and on. Networks cancel shows so early anymore. How is a show supposed to find an audience when it's canceled after only a few weeks? The best thing about him was that there wasn't any cheap reality shows on his network. :lol:
Sonny, you hit the nail right on the head again!! Perfectly put!! :clap :D

NBC is run by idiots. I knew the Jay Leno Show was going to be a failure before it even aired. He should have stayed on the Tonight Show. The only show I watch on NBC right now is SVU and I have to DVR it because it's on opposite Criminal Minds. I won't even mention Chuck which is NBC's best show because it isn't going to be on until March. :rolleyes:

Jeff Zucker has absolutely been a cancer for NBC for the past decade or so. If you don't believe me, take a look at this article:
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/tv/index.ssf/2008/12/sepinwall_on_tv_nbc_has_nothin.html

Get a hit drama in here, stat!

Just a couple weeks into the fall television season, the prognosis is not looking good for NBC. To wit:

• The 'Jay Leno Show' experiment at 10PM is flailing. The premiere attracted 18 million viewers; now it averages in the 5-6 million range. And its getting trashed by the critics, like Nancy Franklin of the New Yorker, who scathingly writes, "The forensic evidence so far indicates that a kind of death is taking place before our eyes; the only question is whether what we're witnessing is an accident or a crime scene.

• The once-beloved 'Heroes' started season 4 with its weakest premiere numbers yet, falling an astonishing 46 percent from last year's opener. Consider that season 2's premiere netted 17 million viewers. NBC would kill for just half that these days.

• Returning favorite 'Law and Order: SVU' was down 34 percent

• New drama 'Mercy' notched a weak second place last Wednesday with 8.2 million viewers, and the big, action-filled 'Trauma' arrived nearly DOA Monday night with 6.9 million.

• Acclaimed new comedy 'Community' slipped from its premiere numbers by 26 percent. Even worse, NBC slid down to fourth place last Thursday, thanks to Fox's combination of 'Bones' and 'Fringe.'

Once the home of outstanding, Emmy Award-winning 10PM dramas like 'ER,' 'L.A. Law' and 'Hill Street Blues,' NBC seems to be on life support, surviving on cheap talk, reality and game shows. Perhaps it's too late and NBC is done for.

We really hope not, so here are some ideas on how to resuscitate the network:

1. Move 'The Jay Leno Show' to 8PM -- and trim it to half an hour
Look, we'd love if the show went away for good, but it's not going to happen. Leno's humor isn't too risque for 8PM, and can be paired with comedies ('Community' and 'Parks and Recreation' could move from Thursday), half-hour game shows or a 90-minute 'Biggest Loser.' This would open up the 10PM hour for great dramas again, speaking of which ...

2. Make great dramas, then treat them well
If 'Mercy' and 'Trauma' are your best offerings, NBC, that's just sad. 'Parenthood' looks promising, but it's for midseason and the lead role is being recast. But worse is how the network has treated its acclaimed dramas. 'Friday Night Lights' barely earned renewal and was banished to the dead zone that is, well, Friday nights. A similar fate awaits 'Southland.' 'Kings' was hidden on Saturdays over the summer, then canceled. If NBC is really dying, then doesn't it at least want to go out in style?

3. Give up on the Thursday comedy block, because it isn't working
'The Office' and '30 Rock' are cruising, but the Thursday edition of 'Saturday Night Live,' 'Parks and Recreation' and 'Community' are struggling. Use some common sense: If you're getting crushed, move out of the way. The 8PM hours on Tuesdays and Wednesdays look a bit less crowded.

4. At least air the good kind of reality TV
'The Biggest Loser' is fine; 'The Celebrity Apprentice' is gross. Take a page from corporate sibling Bravo, which developed its brand on 'Project Runway' (now on Lifetime) and 'Top Chef.' Heck, even their 'Real Housewives' franchise is better than most NBC reality shows ('I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here' ... really?!?).

5. If there's absolutely nothing cooking, raid the pantry
NBC is part of a big corporation that includes sister networks Bravo, Syfy, USA and Oxygen. Why not re-air some of their acclaimed hits, like 'Battlestar Galactica' or 'Burn Notice'? Call it the Friday Night Rewind or something.


http://insidetv.aol.com/2009/09/30/is-nbc-dead/#

NBC should continue to have a four comedy block on Thurdsays only for "it's a tradition" reasons.

Speaking of Brandon, NBC could really use an injection of Punky Power! right about now!


As long as it's not "puppy" power... :lol: :crazy:

http://www.alwayswatching.net/files/alwayswatching/ftp/tvcharacters/scrappy_doo.jpg

As long as it's not "puppy" power... :lol: :crazy:

http://www.alwayswatching.net/files/alwayswatching/ftp/tvcharacters/scrappy_doo.jpg
NO!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!! :seeya: puke: :mad:

NO!! ANYTHING BUT THAT!!! :seeya: puke: :mad:
But how do you really feel Monika?

But how do you really feel Monika?
:rofl: :brent

As long as it's not "puppy" power... :lol: :crazy:

http://www.alwayswatching.net/files/alwayswatching/ftp/tvcharacters/scrappy_doo.jpg

:lol: :rotflmao:

There will be NO PUPPY POWER tonight!!!



But anyway, even the next person after Brandon Tartikoff in Warren Littlfield did a good job (despite taking some flak in some spots) continuing Brandon's legacy with shows such as ER, Friends, Frasier, etc. At least those shows helped continue NBC's good ratings under Littlefield.

I wished Bob Wright would come out of retirement and give Jeff Schmucker, er Zucker take back his spot as CEO and give the boot to that @$$-clown.

SNL was the last NBC show I used to watch on a regular basis. I was disappointed with the Southland (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=865) series premiere.

No takers on "puppy power", eh? Ah, se la vi... ;)

As to NBC, geez I can't remember the last time I watched anything on this network. Well, yes, I do actually. I used to follow "Heroes" for the first two and a half seasons until I finally gave up in frustration.

And I DO watch SNL on weekends, but after this Saturday's yawnfest, I think I'm finally pulling the plug on that particular patient.

It is sad, but as I think back the vast majority of my favorite shows have actually been on other networks. The last sitcoms I watched on NBC were "Seinfeld" and "Frasier", and that's obviously been a long time ago.

Get a hit drama in here, stat!

Just a couple weeks into the fall television season, the prognosis is not looking good for NBC. To wit:

• The 'Jay Leno Show' experiment at 10PM is flailing. The premiere attracted 18 million viewers; now it averages in the 5-6 million range. And its getting trashed by the critics, like Nancy Franklin of the New Yorker, who scathingly writes, "The forensic evidence so far indicates that a kind of death is taking place before our eyes; the only question is whether what we're witnessing is an accident or a crime scene.

• The once-beloved 'Heroes' started season 4 with its weakest premiere numbers yet, falling an astonishing 46 percent from last year's opener. Consider that season 2's premiere netted 17 million viewers. NBC would kill for just half that these days.

• Returning favorite 'Law and Order: SVU' was down 34 percent

• New drama 'Mercy' notched a weak second place last Wednesday with 8.2 million viewers, and the big, action-filled 'Trauma' arrived nearly DOA Monday night with 6.9 million.

• Acclaimed new comedy 'Community' slipped from its premiere numbers by 26 percent. Even worse, NBC slid down to fourth place last Thursday, thanks to Fox's combination of 'Bones' and 'Fringe.'

Once the home of outstanding, Emmy Award-winning 10PM dramas like 'ER,' 'L.A. Law' and 'Hill Street Blues,' NBC seems to be on life support, surviving on cheap talk, reality and game shows. Perhaps it's too late and NBC is done for.

We really hope not, so here are some ideas on how to resuscitate the network:

1. Move 'The Jay Leno Show' to 8PM -- and trim it to half an hour
Look, we'd love if the show went away for good, but it's not going to happen. Leno's humor isn't too risque for 8PM, and can be paired with comedies ('Community' and 'Parks and Recreation' could move from Thursday), half-hour game shows or a 90-minute 'Biggest Loser.' This would open up the 10PM hour for great dramas again, speaking of which ...

2. Make great dramas, then treat them well
If 'Mercy' and 'Trauma' are your best offerings, NBC, that's just sad. 'Parenthood' looks promising, but it's for midseason and the lead role is being recast. But worse is how the network has treated its acclaimed dramas. 'Friday Night Lights' barely earned renewal and was banished to the dead zone that is, well, Friday nights. A similar fate awaits 'Southland.' 'Kings' was hidden on Saturdays over the summer, then canceled. If NBC is really dying, then doesn't it at least want to go out in style?

3. Give up on the Thursday comedy block, because it isn't working
'The Office' and '30 Rock' are cruising, but the Thursday edition of 'Saturday Night Live,' 'Parks and Recreation' and 'Community' are struggling. Use some common sense: If you're getting crushed, move out of the way. The 8PM hours on Tuesdays and Wednesdays look a bit less crowded.

4. At least air the good kind of reality TV
'The Biggest Loser' is fine; 'The Celebrity Apprentice' is gross. Take a page from corporate sibling Bravo, which developed its brand on 'Project Runway' (now on Lifetime) and 'Top Chef.' Heck, even their 'Real Housewives' franchise is better than most NBC reality shows ('I'm a Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here' ... really?!?).

5. If there's absolutely nothing cooking, raid the pantry
NBC is part of a big corporation that includes sister networks Bravo, Syfy, USA and Oxygen. Why not re-air some of their acclaimed hits, like 'Battlestar Galactica' or 'Burn Notice'? Call it the Friday Night Rewind or something.


http://insidetv.aol.com/2009/09/30/is-nbc-dead/#


Not as long as the Office is on the schedule-lol I hope it stays on the air until Pam becomes a Boss-LMAO

SNL was the last NBC show I used to watch on a regular basis. I was disappointed with the Southland (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/forumdisplay.php?f=865) series premiere.
More like Must Sleep TV!

Not as long as the Office is on the schedule-lol I hope it stays on the air until Pam becomes a Boss-LMAO
its ironic solomon because we both hated the office when it started and now at least for me its one of my fave shows

its ironic solomon because we both hated the office when it started and now at least for me its one of my fave shows


Love that Dwight-lol

I love Jay Leno, but I agree with you all. He belongs on the Tonight Show. I thought I'd be watching his show every night, but I got tired of it after taping it for a week. Now I only watch if someone good is on. Come to think of it, same goes for Conan and Letterman.

I really think that FOX won the battle of the network TV wars that took place in the 1980s and 1990s as they clearly have the best shows. It's time to either put NBC, CBS and ABC out to pasture or turn them into more 24/7 news networks.

With NBC gotton the JJ Abrams Drama for 10/11 season and hearing a lot of rumours that NBC are looking for more dark realistic dramas.I think NBC are on the road to recovery.Mercy surprised me with its ratings but i think NBC will struggle this season but next season they could bounce back.

I do not think NBC is dead.It has breast cancer

NBC, ABC, and CBS have been dead to me ever since I got cable and a VCR now I have a VCR/DVD player.

Makes you long for the days of Supertrain, Manimal, Pink Lady & Jeff and David Cassidy: Man Undercover, doesn't it?? :rolleyes:

David Cassidy had his own show??? Yeah, obviously they were doing real good back than, too.

David Cassidy had his own show??? Yeah, obviously they were doing real good back than, too.
The cop show David Cassidy - Man Undercover was short lived. The pilot was the Police Story episode A Chance to Live, which David Cassidy received an Emmy nomination.

The cop show David Cassidy - Man Undercover was short lived. The pilot was the Police Story episode A Chance to Live, which David Cassidy received an Emmy nomination.
Maybe the show would've worked under a different title. I tend to think more "Keith Partridge: Man Undercover", and that's probably what most other folks thought.

The David Cassidy cop show was actually pretty decent, at least in the one or two episodes I caught.

But...one could easily substitute any number of horrendous shows from that era to prove Monika's point, including "Rollergirls", "BJ and the Bear", "Misfits of Science" (a bit later), and that ridiculous "Big Event" which, uhm, never seemed very "big" to me. ;)

The whole Jay Leno thing happened, because he didn't renew his contract, and when it was up all of a sudden he regretted it, being too late as Conan was already lined up succeed him. Then NBC came up with this Prime-Time slot show, because they feared ABC or Fox might snag him, and put him on against O'brion and Letterman!

The whole Jay Leno thing happened, because he didn't renew his contract, and when it was up all of a sudden he regretted it, being too late as Conan was already lined up succeed him. Then NBC came up with this Prime-Time slot show, because they feared ABC or Fox might snag him, and put him on against O'brion and Letterman!


I think it would have made more sense for him to just leave NBC

The whole Jay Leno thing happened, because he didn't renew his contract, and when it was up all of a sudden he regretted it, being too late as Conan was already lined up succeed him. Then NBC came up with this Prime-Time slot show, because they feared ABC or Fox might snag him, and put him on against O'brion and Letterman!
Actually the whole thing started because NBC was worried Conan would jump to another network when his contract was up so they guarenteed that he would eventually take over the Tonight Show in order to keep him in the fold. I think for some reason NBC thought Jay would retire and make room for Conan. It was only after they realized that Jay had no intention of retiring that they came up with the idea of putting Jay in the 10 o'clock slot to keep Jay from bolting to a rival network.

The David Cassidy cop show was actually pretty decent, at least in the one or two episodes I caught.

But...one could easily substitute any number of horrendous shows from that era to prove Monika's point, including "Rollergirls", "BJ and the Bear", "Misfits of Science" (a bit later), and that ridiculous "Big Event" which, uhm, never seemed very "big" to me. ;)
I thought Rollergirls was on ABC, but I could be wrong there.

I thought Rollergirls was on ABC, but I could be wrong there.
According to "The Complete Directory to Prime Time, Network, and Cable TV Shows" Rollergirls aired on NBC.

The David Cassidy cop show was actually pretty decent, at least in the one or two episodes I caught.

But...one could easily substitute any number of horrendous shows from that era to prove Monika's point, including "Rollergirls", "BJ and the Bear", "Misfits of Science" (a bit later), and that ridiculous "Big Event" which, uhm, never seemed very "big" to me. ;)
BJ and the Bear was one of my favorite shows. NBC may have been in last place back then but they did have much better shows then they do now.

According to "The Complete Directory to Prime Time, Network, and Cable TV Shows" Rollergirls aired on NBC.
OK, thanks, Marv. I may have been thinking of Sugar Time, which was an ABC show.

Speaking of Brandon, NBC could really use an injection of Punky Power! right about now!
did i hear my name?:happyface


in all seriousness, its saddens me that nbc may soon meet its demise. i have a lot of memories with the network and i'd hate to see it go! i watched my first sitcoms with my parents - punky brewster (still have my doll), and the golden girls, empty nest and nurses on saturday nights. and of course my tradition of watching the macy's thanksgiving day parade every year since i was tiny, long before i discovered my favorite movie. nbc has been the home of the parade since 1955.



i hope they can get someone in there with some creative juices to turn the network around, but i fear it may be too late. seems like everything they attempt turns into a disaster. its hard to believe that not too long ago they were the top network with some of the most popular shows.

NBC made a huge mistake by letting go of Medium, their loss is CBS' gain.

in all seriousness, its saddens me that nbc may soon meet its demise. i have a lot of memories with the network and i'd hate to see it go! i watched my first sitcoms with my parents - punky brewster (still have my doll), and the golden girls, empty nest and nurses on saturday nights. and of course my tradition of watching the macy's thanksgiving day parade every year since i was tiny, long before i discovered my favorite movie. nbc has been the home of the parade since 1955.

i hope they can get someone in there with some creative juices to turn the network around, but i fear it may be too late. seems like everything they attempt turns into a disaster. its hard to believe that not too long ago they were the top network with some of the most popular shows.

Wow, is NBC doing so badly that it might fold all together? I'm with Punky. I don't watch NBC much (which probably makes me sound hypocritical here), but I can't even imagine TV without NBC. I mean, Seinfeld was on NBC! It is strange to think that just ten years ago they were "Must See TV". The thought of the Macy's parade on another network (or *gasp!* not at all) is frightening!

Sad...

Andrea

Wow, is NBC doing so badly that it might fold all together? I'm with Punky. I don't watch NBC much (which probably makes me sound hypocritical here), but I can't even imagine TV without NBC. I mean, Seinfeld was on NBC! It is strange to think that just ten years ago they were "Must See TV". The thought of the Macy's parade on another network (or *gasp!* not at all) is frightening!

Sad...

Andrea
It is sad, but the idiots in charge at NBC have no one to blame but themselves. ohno: :mad:

Wow, is NBC doing so badly that it might fold all together? I'm with Punky. I don't watch NBC much (which probably makes me sound hypocritical here), but I can't even imagine TV without NBC. I mean, Seinfeld was on NBC! It is strange to think that just ten years ago they were "Must See TV". The thought of the Macy's parade on another network (or *gasp!* not at all) is frightening!

Sad...

Andrea

Nah, NBC as a whole won't go away, but I expect a total makeover soon if things don't change. Leno at 10pm is the first of many. If things get really bad they will sell off their cable assets and expensive rights to the Olympics and football before they close down. They also have the GE machine behind them which is rolling in money.

But you're not alone, I don't watch much NBC either. In fact, I don't watch a single one of their primetime shows right now. Their top rated show besides SNF last week was The Biggest Loser which placed #33.

Nah, NBC as a whole won't go away, but I expect a total makeover soon if things don't change. Leno at 10pm is the first of many. If things get really bad they will sell off their cable assets and expensive rights to the Olympics and football before they close down. They also have the GE machine behind them which is rolling in money.

But you're not alone, I don't watch much NBC either. In fact, I don't watch a single one of their primetime shows right now. Their top rated show besides SNF last week was The Biggest Loser which placed #33.
Now that's just sad. :eek:

Their top rated show besides SNF last week was The Biggest Loser which placed #33.

So that would make NBC "The Biggest Loser"!!! :rotflmao:

So that would make NBC "The Biggest Loser"!!! :rotflmao:
That's basically it in a nutshell!! :nod:

So that would make NBC "The Biggest Loser"!!! :rotflmao:
:rofl: Nicely said Andrea!!

:rofl: Nicely said Andrea!!
Exactly - game, set, match to Andrea!! :clap

So that would make NBC "The Biggest Loser"!!! :rotflmao:

LOL, that's a good one!:lol:

LOL, that's a good one!:lol:
Plus, it's not a good sign when your new Tonight Show host gets a concussion on the set. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Plus, it's not a good sign when your new Tonight Show host gets a concussion on the set. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Literally!!! He hit his head on the set! Seems like a bad omen to me.

NBC, ABC, and CBS. They have all been dead for well over 20 years now. None of them havent shown anything that has caught my attention since the 1984.

It is sad, but the idiots in charge at NBC have no one to blame but themselves. ohno: :mad:

Thank you Jeff Schmucker for taking NBC to new high...LOWS!!! :mad: :(

NBC = Nothing But Crap, Nothing But Clunkers, etc. :crazy:

NBC = Nothing But Crap, Nothing But Clunkers, etc. :crazy:
:rofl: Nothing But Carnage

:rofl: Nothing But Carnage
Nationally Broadcasted Crap, etc., etc.

Nationally Broadcasted Crap, etc., etc.
:brent Nauseating Boring Crap

Ronald Grover and Tom Lowry of BusinessWeek say Comcast's proposed purchase of NBC might make sense (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_42/b4151028030706.htm) especially for sports.

The NBCU deal could give a slowing Comcast a significant lift. People with knowledge of Roberts' thinking single out NBC's sports assets. The Peacock Network controls the rights through 2012 for the Olympics and through 2013 for Sunday night National Football League games. With NBC's high-end sports, Roberts could build Comcast's smallish Versus sports channel into a bigger player. And with the NFL as a partner, Roberts could be in a position to pressure the league to cut him in on an even more robust deal to carry more football games.

HAVING A SAY IN HULU

With NBC, Roberts will "have effectively created a potent competitor to ESPN," says Neal Pilson, a former CBS sports executive who now consults. Pilson figures Comcast will use NBC Sports' national platform to complement its 11 regional sports networks, which include major markets such as New York, Chicago, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. Throw in Comcast's Golf Channel and Versus, which has college football and pro hockey games, and the new entity clearly would give agita to executives at ESPN headquarters in Bristol, Conn.

Ronald Grover and Tom Lowry of BusinessWeek say Comcast's proposed purchase of NBC might make sense (http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/09_42/b4151028030706.htm) especially for sports.
Well, they couldn't do any worse.

The fact that these boneheads canceled Southland before it even premiered its second season is just another example of moronic decision making. How did NBC get into this mess???? I guess resting on its laurels of being "Must See TV".

The fact that these boneheads canceled Southland before it even premiered its second season is just another example of moronic decision making. How did NBC get into this mess???? I guess resting on its laurels of being "Must See TV".
Or as I always call it, Must Sleep TV.

does anyone else find it strange that all of NBC's promos completely focus on making a big deal about the programming being "in living color"?

- i mean i can see that being a big deal ...if this was 1964

Maybe they should be airing what they aired in 1964!! Would be a better schedule than what they are airing now......

NBC's newest hit lineup:

NBC's newest hit lineup:


I bet if they did show that line-up their ratings would go through the roof!!!:lol:

I actually watched David Cassidy: Man Undercover!! :D

I actually watched David Cassidy: Man Undercover!! :D
I once actually watched all 6 episodes of Pink Lady & Jeff on DVD. What was I thinking??? :eek: :lol:

Now, if Supertrain, DC:MU, PL&J, Manimal and the test pattern don't work, they could always try this:

I once actually watched all 6 episodes of Pink Lady & Jeff on DVD. What was I thinking??? :eek: :lol:so did i but the weird thing is that pink lady looks lake hamlet compaered to most of whats on nbc;s lineup these days

so did i but the weird thing is that pink lady looks lake hamlet compaered to most of whats on nbc;s lineup these days
Scary, isn't it?? :eek: :lol:

Scary, isn't it?? :eek: :lol:it sure is

I actually watched David Cassidy: Man Undercover!! :D
The pilot A Chance to Live is also my fave Police Story episode. As for the series goes, I watched all episodes except the first one. My two faves are the sixth episode RX for Dying and the tenth and final episode Death Is a Close Friend, Too.

As kid, I did sometimes watched NBC's greatest TV show...
The Indian Head Test Pattern.

^ :rofl: :brent

But you're not alone, I don't watch much NBC either. In fact, I don't watch a single one of their primetime shows right now. Their top rated show besides SNF last week was The Biggest Loser which placed #33.

NBC should have kept "Three Wishes"! (It starred Amy Grant and ran in the fall of 2005.)

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010044.html?categoryid=18&cs= 1

If NBC Universal doesn't fall into Comcast's lap, there may be others suitors for the giant entertainment company.

Separately on Friday, News Corp. chairman Rupert Murdoch and Liberty Media chief John Malone both said they were eyeing NBC Uni, but weren't in any discussions.

"We'll have a look at that deal to see what opportunities there are for us," Murdoch said at News Corp.'s annual shareholders' meeting in Gotham.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118010044.html?categoryid=18&cs= 1

Rupert Murdoch should be the last person to buy NBC.

I mean this guy controls nearly 20% of the media as it is. How much more does need to bolster his old pompous ego?

Rupert Murdoch should be the last person to buy NBC.

I mean this guy controls nearly 20% of the media as it is. How much more does need to bolster his old pompous ego?
The folks over at MSNBC sure won't like it. :rofl:

Rupert Murdoch should be the last person to buy NBC.

I mean this guy controls nearly 20% of the media as it is. How much more does need to bolster his old pompous ego?
:rofl: :brent Beautifully said!!

:rofl: :brent Beautifully said!!

Todays news says Jay Leno is hurting the local news of many NBC affiliates at 11:00(EST) .

Todays news says Jay Leno is hurting the local news of many NBC affiliates at 11:00(EST) .
How come?

they really need to get rid of those morons who are running NBC into the ground. I mean they aren't doing so well right now but networks have gone through this before. I'm sure in a few years or so they may do better but for now they really offer us nothing good to watch.

How come?

I guess because Jay's not a good lead in for the news.

I guess because Jay's not a good lead in for the news.

The whole affiliate thing seems like an over-the-top excuse to me. Last fall, the NBC news affiliates had lead-ins like Lipstick Jungle, My Own Worst Enemy, and Life as its lead-in, which were all doing worse than Leno was.

The whole affiliate thing seems like an over-the-top excuse to me. Last fall, the NBC news affiliates had lead-ins like Lipstick Jungle, My Own Worst Enemy, and Life as its lead-in, which were all doing worse than Leno was.
The really only consistent lead ins they had for years were ER and Law & Order, before they just went in the tank.

I had seen this article before it was posted here but didn't really read it until now. All I can say is wow..NBC's numbers really are dismal and I would say they are in very serious trouble right now. The problem is the numbers have been gradually declining towards this for quite a while now so I'm kind of feeling like it's too late to fix the damage. I've always liked Jay Leno. I think he's a good guy and enjoyed his Tonight Show run as well as the show he's doing right now. If the show's, and network's numbers don't improve fast I'm afraid his new show may not get a very long run at all :( People have talked for years about under performing networks disappearing but I haven't seen a situation this bad for a network, especially one that has been around for a long time.

If NBC were to completely go under and disappear, and by the week the chance of that is increasing, there is another interesting question in all of this. What happens to Telemundo? NBC Universal still owns some of the Telemundo stations I believe so I wonder if Telemundo would go under right along with NBC. And if that played out I wonder what those stations would do. They'd certainly have to figure out something.

At any rate, NBC's situation is very serious and needs to be fixed soon or else it may very well disappear.

I had seen this article before it was posted here but didn't really read it until now. All I can say is wow..NBC's numbers really are dismal and I would say they are in very serious trouble right now. The problem is the numbers have been gradually declining towards this for quite a while now so I'm kind of feeling like it's too late to fix the damage. I've always liked Jay Leno. I think he's a good guy and enjoyed his Tonight Show run as well as the show he's doing right now. If the show's, and network's numbers don't improve fast I'm afraid his new show may not get a very long run at all :( People have talked for years about under performing networks disappearing but I haven't seen a situation this bad for a network, especially one that has been around for a long time.

If NBC were to completely go under and disappear, and by the week the chance of that is increasing, there is another interesting question in all of this. What happens to Telemundo? NBC Universal still owns some of the Telemundo stations I believe so I wonder if Telemundo would go under right along with NBC. And if that played out I wonder what those stations would do. They'd certainly have to figure out something.

At any rate, NBC's situation is very serious and needs to be fixed soon or else it may very well disappear.
and I don't want NBC to disappear. They were the first National Network and they have a great history of great shows. They need new leadership to fix it. If these bozos stay in charge then I'm afraid NBC is doomed. Leno should have never left the Tonight Show.

and I don't want NBC to disappear. They were the first National Network and they have a great history of great shows. They need new leadership to fix it. If these bozos stay in charge then I'm afraid NBC is doomed. Leno should have never left the Tonight Show.
Jay was forced out of The Tonight Show. Plus Conan fans are upset that his humor has been toned down for the earlier time slot. Things were fine the way they were - leave it to NBC to screw it all up. :mad:

Jay was forced out of The Tonight Show. Plus Conan fans are upset that his humor has been toned down for the earlier time slot. Things were fine the way they were - leave it to NBC to screw it all up. :mad:

They were afraid of Leno and Conan going to another network