It's easy for us to hate certain players on teams that are rivals.

But for some of us, there have been players on our teams that we never truly embraced.

Can you ever recall any athletes who played on your team, but you never were truly able to embrace?

after the whole aftermath, Terrell Owens is the best example I can think up at the moment. it was the 2005 season, not his first and only full season with us, where we went to the SB. I am referring to the year following that.

I didn't like A.I. on and off for awhile, and I still don't hold him with high regards as a person & player. Aaron McKie as well.

That's it I think. Every other play from all my 4 teams I've ever loved, liked or were ok with, having them on the team.

LeBron James - there has always been something about him that's rubbed me the wrong way. I can't put my finger on it. The only other one I can think of is Albert Belle - but that should be obvious to any sports fan. :eek: :lol:

LeBron James - there has always been something about him that's rubbed me the wrong way. I can't put my finger on it.

He's a sore loser, and a wuss. So what if that kid dunked on you? Besides the being dunked on footage (that one of his endorsement companies removed off of youtube and other websites), he can't accept a loss. after losing to Orlando in the Conference Finals this past year, he couldn't shake ANY of their hands, and walked off the court. What was worst is that he thought it was ok to do that. It's one thing to walk off the court emotional after the loss, but he never apologized or deemed it wrong that he did that. Some people will never get it, Monika.

after the whole aftermath, Terrell Owens is the best example I can think up at the moment. it was the 2005 season, not his first and only full season with us, where we went to the SB. I am referring to the year following that.

I didn't like A.I. on and off for awhile, and I still don't hold him with high regards as a person & player. Aaron McKie as well.


No mention of Billy Wagner?

No mention of Billy Wagner?

I forgot about that snitch lol. I more so hated him since he's left the Phillies, but I didn't really like him towards the end of his Philly stint. So yeah, he is another one you could add to that list.

He's a sore loser, and a wuss. So what if that kid dunked on you? Besides the being dunked on footage (that one of his endorsement companies removed off of youtube and other websites), he can't accept a loss. after losing to Orlando in the Conference Finals this past year, he couldn't shake ANY of their hands, and walked off the court. What was worst is that he thought it was ok to do that. It's one thing to walk off the court emotional after the loss, but he never apologized or deemed it wrong that he did that. Some people will never get it, Monika.
I was sick of him dating back to his high school days - in nearby Akron. ohno:

I was sick of him dating back to his high school days - in nearby Akron. ohno:

They are making this big movie documentary on him that's coming out soon- lol. I was like wow.

They are making this big movie documentary on him that's coming out soon- lol. I was like wow.
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Eric Lindross and Ty Domi of the Leafs. I know people who know them personally and both personally and professionally these two are real major *******s. Thankfully they're both retired now.

When was Eric Lindros ever on Toronto? All I remember is Philly, NY and Dallas. But I can understand where those comments come from. He comes off as a crybaby but I still love him.

When was Eric Lindros ever on Toronto? All I remember is Philly, NY and Dallas. But I can understand where those comments come from. He comes off as a crybaby but I still love him.


I think he came to Toronto at the end of his head-banging career (figures the Leafs would draft someone that was so rattled that the next hit ended his career too). He's from here originally and I know some people who knew him before he was even in the NHL and he treats females like absolute crap. Just couldn't warm up to him.

As mentioned earlier, Eric Lindros. He was a Ranger and I couldn't stand him. Always skating with his head down. Concussion waiting to happen.

Kevin Brown. One of the most overrated pitchers I have ever seen. I believe he was the first $100 million player.

Jim McIlvaine. Seattle gave him the money over Shawn Kemp and eventually got rid of him. As a Net, he was god awful. Second worst after Evan Eschmeyer.

Zach Randolph. Black hole of basketball. He treated the ball like a doughnut.

As mentioned earlier, Eric Lindros. He was a Ranger and I couldn't stand him. Always skating with his head down. Concussion waiting to happen.


LOL wtf? You blame and hate him for that? :lol:

that is kinda messed up to say too. wasn't like it was his fault. scott stevens was cheap anyway. you blame lindros for getting concussions, yet you don't blame any of the guys that gave him concussions?

kasparitus was a b*tch.

and Kevin Brown has won over 200 games Darren lol.

LOL wtf? You blame and hate him for that? :lol:

that is kinda messed up to say too. wasn't like it was his fault. scott stevens was cheap anyway. you blame lindros for getting concussions, yet you don't blame any of the guys that gave him concussions?

kasparitus was a b*tch.


You had him when he was in his prime. Lindros was getting paid all that money and he ended up getting his brain rattled. I couldn't stand him because of his poor habits and the fact that he basically disappeared. It was bad enough Pavel Bure tore up his knee. Lindros skating with his head down drove me insane. He should have learned his lesson after concussion #1.

As for Stevens and Kasparaitis, they disguised their hits as clean. Their hits weren't illegal according to the rulebook, but they went out of their way to injure people.

You had him when he was in his prime. Lindros was getting paid all that money and he ended up getting his brain rattled. I couldn't stand him because of his poor habits and the fact that he basically disappeared. It was bad enough Pavel Bure tore up his knee. Lindros skating with his head down drove me insane. He should have learned his lesson after concussion #1.

As for Stevens and Kasparaitis, they disguised their hits as clean. Their hits weren't illegal according to the rulebook, but they went out of their way to injure people.

the hits were clean, yet they ultimately injured people lol. I am going by why people call them clean hits. I understand the meaning, but a specific name for a hit should change, if the player was injured because of it. Yeah he was in his prime with Philly, but I still don't see why you hate him because he got injured lol. It's like me saying- oh Simon Gagne, damn you a$$hole, always getting injured, I hate you Simon LOL :lol:. You can't help it if a player is injured, is all I'm saying. Yes he was totally injury prone, but oh well I say lol. He didn't have his head down all the time though. You can't blame him for getting injured, for somebody hitting him lol. C'mon now dude. I understand your logic and what you are saying, but still.

and Kevin Brown has won over 200 games Darren lol.


That's also over 19 seasons. The Yankees gave him 2 years/$30 million and he goes 10-6 with a 4.09 and 4-7 with a 6.50. Him and Carl Pavano are the biggest wastes of money in Yankees history.

the hits were clean, yet they ultimately injured people lol. I am going by why people call them clean hits. I understand the meaning, but a specific name for a hit should change, if the player was injured because of it. Yeah he was in his prime with Philly, but I still don't see why you hate him because he got injured lol. It's like me saying- oh Simon Gagne, damn you a$$hole, always getting injured, I hate you Simon LOL :lol:. You can't help it if a player is injured, is all I'm saying. Yes he was totally injury prone, but oh well I say lol. He didn't have his head down all the time though. You can't blame him for getting injured, for somebody hitting him lol. C'mon now dude. I understand your logic and what you are saying, but still.


Gagne didn't get hurt repeatedly or through any fault of his own. Lindros got hurt every time for the same damn reason. Then the Rangers throw the money at him, Bure, and Holik, and Lindros ends up with another 2 concussions.

Off-topic, but when I saw Simon, I immediately thought of Chris Simon. Though he behaved for the most part as a Ranger.

he was great with texas and with the dodgers. he was ok with the yankees. yeah but randy johnson has won 300 games and his stint with the Yankees was ok lol. No career is based off what they do with the Yankees. And I wouldn't say that.

Gagne didn't get hurt repeatedly or through any fault of his own. Lindros got hurt every time for the same damn reason. Then the Rangers throw the money at him, Bure, and Holik, and Lindros ends up with another 2 concussions.

Off-topic, but when I saw Simon, I immediately thought of Chris Simon. Though he behaved for the most part as a Ranger.

that's true. and that still is on topic lol, but I agree.

the issues with pavel bure sucked. he was a great goal scorer, and all of a sudden, his career was over.

he was great with texas and with the dodgers. he was ok with the yankees. yeah but randy johnson has won 300 games and his stint with the Yankees was ok lol. No career is based off what they do with the Yankees. And I wouldn't say that.


Randy was a far better pitcher. I wasn't fond of his pitching as a Yankee, but I always liked him. Brown wasn't that great of a pitcher. In his first 10 seasons, his lowest ERA was 3.32. In his first 9 seasons, he led all of baseball in hits given up twice. I'm pretty sure he was on some drugs. All of a sudden, he turns 30 and his ERA drops like hell.

It's called getting old :lol:. Darren, you expect older guys to have better ERAs put up then when they were younger pitchers, typically? lol.

I just don't think a player can be judged off of 2/3 seasons, which is how long he was with the Yankees, right?

that's true. and that still is on topic lol, but I agree.

the issues with pavel bure sucked. he was a great goal scorer, and all of a sudden, his career was over.


Yep. Scored 60 goals in 2 of his first 3 seasons and 50+ 5x. He came to the Rangers at the 2002 trade deadline and had 20 points in 12 games. The following season was the end for him. He was on pace for 40 goals as well.

It's called getting old :lol:. Darren, you expect older guys to have better ERAs put up then when they were younger pitchers, typically? lol.

I just don't think a player can be judged off of 2/3 seasons, which is how long he was with the Yankees, right?


Brown wasn't that good in his 20s. He was a pitcher that thrived because of good hitting teams. His ERA dropping had nothing to do with his team's offense. I didn't want the Yankees to sign him. Randy dominated regardless of how good his team was.

When was Eric Lindros ever on Toronto?

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Yep. Scored 60 goals in 2 of his first 3 seasons and 50+ 5x. He came to the Rangers at the 2002 trade deadline and had 20 points in 12 games. The following season was the end for him. He was on pace for 40 goals as well.

wow, incredible.

how many goals in his career did he end up with at the end?

wow, incredible.

how many goals in his career did he end up with at the end?


437 in 12 seasons(36.4/year) and 702 games(0.6/game)

T.O. I disliked him the moment he danced on our star. I tolerated him for 3 years but I'm glad he's gone now.

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Actually he also played for the Leafs in 2005. Couldn't even make it a full season - broke his wrist (shockingly - no concussion here!)

I agree Darren - you'd think one or two concussions, you'd learn to skate with your head up! It's not like he was walking to school or anything. You're being paid big bucks to play hockey properly. There's too many guys lined up eager to take your place to tolerate that sort of thing.

He's known as the Chevy Chase of Hockey here in his hometown. ;)

I forgot to add Milton Bradley to my list. Thank goodness he's not the Indians' headache anymore - but he's STILL a jacka$$. :mad:

I forgot to add Milton Bradley to my list. Thank goodness he's not the Indians' headache anymore - but he's STILL a jacka$$. :mad:I guess you won't be buying any of his games then. :lol:

I didn't like Ron Artest and the other Pacers players who were involved in the Detroit brawl. The Pacers haven't been a great team since then, they used to go to conference championships. :mad:

I guess you won't be buying any of his games then. :lol:
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