it could of been during the season, or before the season when the team was set. Could be any sport. They could of had great players, and coaching, or just a great team.

The Chargers with Marty then with Norv as coach.

In fairness to Norv when he first was with the Chargers, he had some injured players in the title game and I think that they could have gone to meet the Giants if they had healthy players.

1990 Bills
1998 Vikings
2002 Raiders

-1990 Bills
-1993 Knicks
-1994 Knicks
-1996 Braves
-1996 Red Wings
-2002 Giants
-2004 Yankees

1990 Bills
2006 Sabres
2007 Sabres

1990 Bills
2006 Sabres
2007 Sabres


That team would have went to the Stanley Cup Finals if they didn't have 4 defensemen injured against Carolina.

-1990 Bills
-1993 Knicks
-1994 Knicks
-1996 Braves
-1996 Red Wings
-2002 Giants
-2004 Yankees


Oh Sh*T how could I forget about the 2002 Giants. I just knew they were going to beat the Eagles at the Vet but ended up losing to the f*cking niners after leading 38-17

Oh Sh*T how could I forget about the 2002 Giants. I just knew they were going to beat the Eagles at the Vet but ended up losing to the f*cking niners after leading 38-17

Actually, the Giants would have played the Bucs in Tampa had they won that game.

Actually, the Giants would have played the Bucs in Tampa had they won that game.


They were going to beat Tampa and the Eagles

They were going to beat Tampa and the Eagles

Yeah, right.

Against that defense, in Tampa?

Yeah, right.

Against that defense, in Tampa?


They were the HOT team and were on a roll until the defense fell asleep.

1980 Dallas Cowboys
1981 Dallas Cowboys
1994 Dallas Cowboys

1988 New York Mets

1981 Dallas Cowboys
1994 Dallas Cowboys

1988 New York Mets


I remember reading that the 81 Cowboys were favored to beat the Eagles in the NFCC that year.

I remember reading that the 81 Cowboys were favored to beat the Eagles in the NFCC that year.

That was the 1980 season- the championship game was played in 1981.
(I added that team too).

The 1981 season was the NFCC with the 49ers and "The Catch".

That was the 1980 season- the championship game was played in 1981.
(I added that team too).

The 1981 season was the NFCC with the 49ers and "The Catch".


Oh yeah, the Joe Cool Throw to Dwight Clark

Oh Sh*T how could I forget about the 2002 Giants. I just knew they were going to beat the Eagles at the Vet but ended up losing to the f*cking niners after leading 38-17


I was actually referring to the San Francisco Giants, though the New York Giants also have a case.

The 1994 Montreal Expos. They were poised to go all the way until the season was ended prematurely by a strike.

Also add the 2004 Calgary Flames.

BASEBALL:

1987 Cincinnati Reds
1988 Cincinnati Reds
1996 Cleveland Indians
1997 Cleveland Indians
2001 Seattle Mariners
2003 Boston Red Sox
2005 St. Louis Cardinals
2008 Chicago Cubs

FOOTBALL:

1988-89 Cincinnati Bengals
1994-95 Dallas Cowboys
1997-98 Green Bay Packers
2000-01 Tennessee Titans
2001-02 St. Louis Rams
2005-06 Indianapolis Colts
2007-08 New England Patriots

COLLEGE BASKETBALL:

1992-93 Cincinnati Bearcats
1994-95 Xavier Musketeers
2004-05 Illinois Fighting Illini

BASEBALL:

1987 Cincinnati Reds
1988 Cincinnati Reds
1996 Cleveland Indians
1997 Cleveland Indians
2001 Seattle Mariners
2003 Boston Red Sox
2005 St. Louis Cardinals
2008 Chicago Cubs

FOOTBALL:

1988-89 Cincinnati Bengals
1994-95 Dallas Cowboys
1997-98 Green Bay Packers
2000-01 Tennessee Titans
2001-02 St. Louis Rams
2005-06 Indianapolis Colts
2007-08 New England Patriots

COLLEGE BASKETBALL:

1992-93 Cincinnati Bearcats
1994-95 Xavier Musketeers
2004-05 Illinois Fighting Illini


I forgot about those 88 Bengals

1990 Bills
1998 Vikings
2002 Raiders

I'm surprised, since you hate both teams.

I always thought that Saint Joes college bball team could of won it all, and same with last year's Villanova team. They just had the drive and talent to do so. Villanova beat Pitt. too. NC was a very good team, but still.

I'm surprised, since you hate both teams.

I never hated the Bills. During the early 90's I hated the Eagles and Niners

In 1998 I didn't hate the Vikings, I hated Denver and Tennesse

I never hated the Bills. During the early 90's I hated the Eagles and Niners

In 1998 I didn't hate the Vikings, I hated Denver and Tennesse

Well I knew you didn't like the Bills, so IDK why I said that in the first place lol. It's just, you and Chris (BigC) on here fight a lot, like me and you do as well, and he's a big Bills fan, so that's how I connected the two. They were parallels.

lol ok. thanks for clearing that up I guess.

And the 2002 Giants? Was their a specific reason they are on the list? I remember them having good players, but they don't stick out like a great team that had me SHOCKED that they didn't go all the way and win it all.

And the 2002 Giants? Was their a specific reason they are on the list? I remember them having good players, but they don't stick out like a great team that had me SHOCKED that they didn't go all the way and win it all.


Which one?


San Francisco- 5 outs away from a championship and they choked the game. They led in game 7 as well, and blew that too.

New York- they had a comfortable 38-17 lead during a playoff game on the road. Somehow, they blew it. They really were better than the 49ers that year and would have given Tampa Bay problems.

I meant the NY Football Giants, sorry for confusing you. Yeah I was thinking of the SF Giants though too. Both were good teams, but weren't teams I would be surprised if they didn't win it.

I hope to God somebody mentioned the Seattle Mariners from 2001? They won 116 games. Ichiro's rookie season. If nobody mentioned Seattle, I will be forced to lock this thread lol.

jk

BASEBALL:

1987 Cincinnati Reds
1988 Cincinnati Reds
1996 Cleveland Indians
1997 Cleveland Indians
2001 Seattle Mariners
2003 Boston Red Sox
2005 St. Louis Cardinals
2008 Chicago Cubs

FOOTBALL:

1988-89 Cincinnati Bengals
1994-95 Dallas Cowboys
1997-98 Green Bay Packers
2000-01 Tennessee Titans
2001-02 St. Louis Rams
2005-06 Indianapolis Colts
2007-08 New England Patriots

COLLEGE BASKETBALL:

1992-93 Cincinnati Bearcats
1994-95 Xavier Musketeers
2004-05 Illinois Fighting Illini

You are a SMART person James lol. I agree with pretty much of all your picks, but especially the ones I specified in BOLD. 2001 Mariners are the best example for this topic.

I forgot to mention the 1999 Jags, 14-2 and could not figure the Titans

I forgot to mention the 1999 Jags, 14-2 and could not figure the Titans


Just for the record, Tom Coughlin coached that team.

Just for the record, Tom Coughlin coached that team.


I had a $100 bet on the Jags in the AFC Championship Game and they scored first 7-0, and then lost after that-lol I was sick

I was actually referring to the San Francisco Giants, though the New York Giants also have a case.

Bonds, They still had Kent right. They didn't still have JT Snow did they? I'm trying to remember players from that team. I remember that team.

Barry Bonds
Jeff Kent
JT Snow (might of still been around)
Rich Aurilia

I don't think Pedro Feliz was in the League yet, to be on that team.

I think Ray Durham was still with the White Sox?

I don't know, I can't think, I'm drawing a blank sort of lol.

I forgot to mention the 1999 Jags, 14-2 and could not figure the Titans

I did not know that team went 14-2 that year. Mark Bruynell?? He was their QB, correct? Fred Taylor as their RB.

I did not know that team went 14-2 that year. Mark Bruynell?? He was their QB, correct? Fred Taylor as their RB.


Yes Mark the D*ckhead, he never stepped up. The Jags finished the 99 season 14-3 and all three losses were to the Titans-lol

Bonds, They still had Kent right. They didn't still have JT Snow did they? I'm trying to remember players from that team. I remember that team.

Barry Bonds
Jeff Kent
JT Snow (might of still been around)
Rich Aurilia

I don't think Pedro Feliz was in the League yet, to be on that team.

I think Ray Durham was still with the White Sox?

I don't know, I can't think, I'm drawing a blank sort of lol.


Starting lineup:


C- Benito Santiago
1B- J.T. Snow
2B- Jeff Kent
3B- David Bell
SS- Rich Aurilia
LF- Barry Bonds
CF- Tsuyoshi Shinjo
RF- Reggie Sanders

Bench- Kenny Lofton, Damon Minor, Ramon Martinez, Tom Goodwin, Yorvit Torrealba, Pedro Feliz, Shawon Dunston, Marvin Benard

Starting rotation- Livan Hernandez, Russ Ortiz, Kirk Reuter, Jason Schmidt, Ryan Jensen

Relievers- Chad Zerbe, Jay Witasick, Felix Rodriguez, Tim Worrell

Closer- Robb Nen
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Even before the game, Dusty Baker got ripped for going with Livan Hernandez instead of Kirk Reuter in game 7.

Starting lineup:


C- Benito Santiago
1B- J.T. Snow
2B- Jeff Kent
3B- David Bell
SS- Rich Aurilia
LF- Barry Bonds
CF- Tsuyoshi Shinjo
RF- Reggie Sanders

Bench- Kenny Lofton, Damon Minor, Ramon Martinez, Tom Goodwin, Yorvit Torrealba, Pedro Feliz, Shawon Dunston, Marvin Benard

Starting rotation- Livan Hernandez, Russ Ortiz, Kirk Reuter, Jason Schmidt, Ryan Jensen

Relievers- Chad Zerbe, Jay Witasick, Felix Rodriguez, Tim Worrell

Closer- Robb Nen
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Even before the game, Dusty Baker got ripped for going with Livan Hernandez instead of Kirk Reuter in game 7.

I was going to say David Bell too...I got a good amount of em. Yeah I couldn't think of anybody in their rotation lol. And Livan pitched Game 7 for the Marlins too, vs. Cleveland in 1997/1998, didn't he? He is a big time player. Rueter was their # 2 or 3, and wasn't bad either.

Yes Mark the D*ckhead, he never stepped up. The Jags finished the 99 season 14-3 and all three losses were to the Titans-lol

very interesting. they had 29 teams they would of beat, and 1 they couldn't, and they so happened to get the 1 team :lol:. Talk about probability, and not getting lucky haha.

very interesting. they had 29 teams they would of beat, and 1 they couldn't, and they so happened to get the 1 team :lol:. Talk about probability, and not getting lucky haha.


That' why the Jags got rid of his A$$-lol

That' why the Jags got rid of his A$$-lol

It was the whole team that lost though lol, but yeah I know what you mean. I remember him as a Redskin more, from being in the NFC. I know players in the AFC, but don't follow their stats like I would way more with NFC players. Same with other sports & with whatever division and conference my team is in. Anyways, I remember Brunell completing something like, 18 or 20 straight completions, with Washington, without having an incompletion in the middle. McNabb actually would later destroy that record, but I remember him for that, him being in the playoffs with Washington the one year when we were behind them in the standings, and him sort of looking like Mark Wahlberg too :lol: lol.

I was going to say David Bell too...I got a good amount of em. Yeah I couldn't think of anybody in their rotation lol. And Livan pitched Game 7 for the Marlins too, vs. Cleveland in 1997/1998, didn't he? He is a big time player. Rueter was their # 2 or 3, and wasn't bad either.


Al Leiter pitched game 7 in '97. Livan had a high ERA and was known for giving up runs early in games. That's why Dusty got ripped.

Al Leiter pitched game 7 in '97. Livan had a high ERA and was known for giving up runs early in games. That's why Dusty got ripped.

Ah I see. Thanks for the info Darren.

Btw, David Bell SUCKS lol. He was decent with San Fran, and like always, maybe if he was decent or good somewheres else, he sucks with our team. He was horrible with the Phillies. The only notable thing he did was hit for the cycle one game, in like 2003/2004 I think it was. Besides that, he might be known more for being on the list of steroid users, more then anything else lol.

It was the whole team that lost though lol, but yeah I know what you mean. I remember him as a Redskin more, from being in the NFC. I know players in the AFC, but don't follow their stats like I would way more with NFC players. Same with other sports & with whatever division and conference my team is in. Anyways, I remember Brunell completing something like, 18 or 20 straight completions, with Washington, without having an incompletion in the middle. McNabb actually would later destroy that record, but I remember him for that, him being in the playoffs with Washington the one year when we were behind them in the standings, and him sort of looking like Mark Wahlberg too :lol: lol.


I remember him helping the Skins beat the Eagles on ESPN Sunday Night in 2005. Think that was the only time

Yeah I remember that too. GarfieldKool might be able to boost our memory here on this topic lol.