What are some of the cases where there has been some great investigating?

The Beverly McGowan case - it took some time, but they were able to determine that "Alice" was really Elaine Antoinette Parent - no easy feat when the woman used 8 billion different aliases.

1. Ethel Kidd- I thought their analysis of the situation and the note was dead on.
2. Brooke Baker case- The detective seemed very competent and thorough.
3. The Wackers-I thought the detective in the Wackers case was very professional and thorough. He showed great respect to the Wackers and yet was smart enough to ask the crucial question of whether Mrs Wacker believed her husband was behind this. You got the sense that the detective was open to the possibility that there was a perp but knew deep down inside that this might be a hoax.
4. Judy Groezinger- even though they did not have enough to arrest her, they did a pretty good job in collecting and analyzing the facts and the evidence. They seemed to have uncovered a lot of facts with their interviews.

Mastermind - Do you think the Cheryl Holland and Greg Webb cases are good detective work, or just unlucky/dumb criminals?

Maury Terry actually did a better job on the Son of Sam case than the NYPD (and all its entities) did. On one program regarding this case, one of the police officers made abig deal about people congratulating him everywhere he went. He said he couldn't even buy his own drink for over a month. Yet they only had one small part of the case solved.

Maury Terry actually did a better job on the Son of Sam case than the NYPD (and all its entities) did. On one program regarding this case, one of the police officers made abig deal about people congratulating him everywhere he went. He said he couldn't even buy his own drink for over a month. Yet they only had one small part of the case solved.

I think the NYPD didn't do a bad job. From all reports, very few of the detectives thought that Berkowitz acted alone. They were pursuing the case as more than one person was doing it, before Berkowitz was caught and confessed. They looked at it as more than one person doing it even before the Satanic claims came out.

They still have the case open, even though Berkowitz is in jail.

William Bradford Bishop: it's a miracle so many different agencies were able to work so quickly and communicate so well, especially in the mid-70s. Even though he hasn't been caught, I think the swiftness of the initial investigation was very impressive.

What are some of the cases where there has been some great investigating?

I would say the 1988 murder of Veronica 'Tina' Jefferson. I don't know of any mistakes that were made during the investigation, or at least there were no major mistakes that I'm aware of (other than the general fact that it took nearly two decades to solve the case).

I will never forget the optimism that one of the detectives displayed during the interview. The cop recognized that homicides, even when they go unsolved, are never forgotten. He stressed that it was important for the then-unidentified killer to be aware of that, so that he wouldn't think that just because a certain amount of time has passed he's gotten away with killing Veronica.

Ultimately, the killer did not get away with it. In 2005, seventeen years after Veronica's murder, a California death row inmate named Alfredo Prieto was linked to the crime (as well as the December 1988 murders of Warren Fulton and Rachel Raver) through DNA.

What are some of the cases where there has been some great investigating?

The Beverly McGowan case - it took some time, but they were able to determine that "Alice" was really Elaine Antoinette Parent - no easy feat when the woman used 8 billion different aliases.

I'm not sure of their names but the two women who were severely beaten (1 died) in the basement of their apartment complex while doing laundry. One of them had a young daughter who was locked out of the apt, the landlord found her and then found the bodies. The police had basically nothing to go on. The murder weapon had been wiped clear of fingerprints. When the story originally aired, it seemed as though it would be very difficult to solve. Recently they had an update stating that the killer was a relative of a police officer who covered up the crime scene. The killer was given life in prison and the cop who covered it up was given 10 years I believe. I just think this was good police work as the cops who were interviewed originally seemed like they had nothing to go on.

I just think this was good police work as the cops who were interviewed originally seemed like they had nothing to go on.

Maybe not so good police work after all. The man serving time for this is Raymond "Beaver" Tempest(sp?) There is actually a lot of doubt about his guilt and a strong suspect who some believe was the real murderer.

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What are some of the cases where there has been some great investigating?

The Beverly McGowan case - it took some time, but they were able to determine that "Alice" was really Elaine Antoinette Parent - no easy feat when the woman used 8 billion different aliases.

I'm not sure of their names but the two women who were severely beaten (1 died) in the basement of their apartment complex while doing laundry. One of them had a young daughter who was locked out of the apt, the landlord found her and then found the bodies. The police had basically nothing to go on. The murder weapon had been wiped clear of fingerprints. When the story originally aired, it seemed as though it would be very difficult to solve. Recently they had an update stating that the killer was a relative of a police officer who covered up the crime scene. The killer was given life in prison and the cop who covered it up was given 10 years I believe. I just think this was good police work as the cops who were interviewed originally seemed like they had nothing to go on.

The murdered woman was Doreen Picard, I forget the other women's name. Happened in Woonsocket, RI(sp?)

One of the UMs best produced and scariest murder cases.
I agree excellent police work. I actually thought this one might not be solved.

Robert Corrado

The murdered woman was Doreen Picard, I forget the other women's name. Happened in Woonsocket, RI(sp?)

One of the UMs best produced and scariest murder cases.
I agree excellent police work. I actually thought this one might not be solved.
i believe the other woman's name is Susan Laferte. not sure if that is spelled correctly

Maybe not so good police work after all. The man serving time for this is Raymond "Beaver" Tempest(sp?) There is actually a lot of doubt about his guilt and a strong suspect who some believe was the real murderer.

Yea, I'm pretty sure he did. 99% of the population in every prison claims to be innocent. Seems like peoples families are blinded by the truth. Look at Frank Casteel's family. His son is crazy if he thinks his dad didnt commit those murders.

Eric Leonard, aka the Sacramento Thrill Killer. The hypothesis of the detective in the segment was spot on, it was indeed a mentally unbalanced kid taking his father's gun from his drawer to go kill people at random for fun.

The Bev McGowan case, the fact they found out that Elaine Parent was the main suspect/might have had something to do with it was great work.

Yea, I'm pretty sure he did. 99% of the population in every prison claims to be innocent. Seems like peoples families are blinded by the truth. Look at Frank Casteel's family. His son is crazy if he thinks his dad didnt commit those murders.

There is a lot more to this than some guy in prison or some guy in prison's family saying that he is innocent. Here is a link detailing some of the major discrepancies in this case:

http://www.caught.net/cases/beaver1.htm

There is a lot more to this than some guy in prison or some guy in prison's family saying that he is innocent. Here is a link detailing some of the major discrepancies in this case:

http://www.caught.net/cases/beaver1.htm

I think that Beaver Tempest is innocent. That is way too much pointing to him being innocent. How he hasn't gotten a new trial is beyond me. Of course it could be like Tommy Zeigler, the state really doesn't want to admit that law enforcement railroaded someone big time.

I know I may be in the minority, but I'd say the Son of Sam case is an example of good police work. Not only is the case still open, but the cops and prosecutor from Queens didn't think Berkowitz acted alone. They thought from the beginning that it was the work of more than one person. They may not have thought about the Satanic cult connection, but they didn't buy the single shooter theory.

The cops in the Sammy Wheeler case, also did excellent work. They said from the beginning that it was random, and despite 3 people sniping at each other and accusing each other, the cops maintained it was random.

Mastermind - Do you think the Cheryl Holland and Greg Webb cases are good detective work, or just unlucky/dumb criminals?

Good detective work, although Cheryl Holland's common law husband gave a lot away by making up that phony story about her in the hospital. But that being said there has been shoddy/corrupt police work from cases that were spoonfed to police to solve and the killer remains loose. I think the Charlotte Pollis case should be solved by now. Paul never struck me as an Einstein

Just watched the Angelo Desideri segment again. I think this has to be one of the best investigations on the show. Not only did the police follow up on every lead, but those two detectives traveled out of the state to investigate where the car was found burned and stopped at gas stations on the way to pick up clues questioning employees. In fact, they started investigating from the get go that this was a suspicious disappearance before the car fire, rather than spewing a "runaway" or "personal problem walk away" theory that we've unfortunately seen many times.

The Kathy Bonderson case investigator who was certain it was a homicide; he was right and I'm glad he fought the sheriff on it as much as he did.

Just watched the Angelo Desideri segment again. I think this has to be one of the best investigations on the show. Not only did the police follow up on every lead, but those two detectives traveled out of the state to investigate where the car was found burned and stopped at gas stations on the way to pick up clues questioning employees. In fact, they started investigating from the get go that this was a suspicious disappearance before the car fire, rather than spewing a "runaway" or "personal problem walk away" theory that we've unfortunately seen many times.

The Kathy Bonderson case investigator who was certain it was a homicide; he was right and I'm glad he fought the sheriff on it as much as he did.
Little miss panosofkee case the investigator always made me feel like he really cared among others. Bonderson is interesting it looks like that trooper did a great job investigating going the extra mile and the sheriff didn't like the fact that he got proven wrong and for whatever reason didn't care about the truth just his selfish pride. I think that's where an investigation can go wrong.

Eric Leonard, aka the Sacramento Thrill Killer. The hypothesis of the detective in the segment was spot on, it was indeed a mentally unbalanced kid taking his father's gun from his drawer to go kill people at random for fun.


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The detective interviewed (think his name was Ray Biondi? posted about it once in another thread) NAILED the profile of the type of person who would commit those crimes in that fashion. I'm going to assume that he didn't already know the perpetrator was that Eric Leonard guy. Going along with that, his profile is probably what helped them catch him.

The Gregory Barker case. Police have a brutal murder, but virtually nothing to go on except that the suspect probably lived a certainly apartment complex and they had to start by sifting through nearly 30,000 (!) lease agreements. After learning that the killer picked up his victim's wallet from a restaurant, police then come up with the brilliant idea of putting the employee under hypnosis so that she'll remember the suspect's phone # and sure enough, they find that same # on Barker's lease agreement.