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Richard 10-21-2001, 02:30 PM The show was supposed to be right after the Civil War was over.Yet there was a later event in history that was talked about on F Troop more than once-Custer's Last Stand.
Capt.Parmenter once had two weeks' training under Custer,and when they parted he said, "Good luck on your new assignment at Little Big Horn."
Corporal Agarn once talked about jinx Wrongo Starr and said,"He was with three outfits.The luckiest was with Custer at Little Big Horn."
The civil war ended in 1865.Custer was massacred at Little Big Horn in 1876.
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Richard Ranke
Ernie Larsen 11-08-2001, 03:53 PM Hey Richard, this show is a fictional sit-com - get a life!
Ringer 11-12-2001, 02:31 AM They also had the Canadian Mounties in one episode set in the 1860's and the Mounties did not form in real life until the 1870's! All these 'errors' were most likely on purpose!
Tiger32 01-17-2002, 09:33 PM Interesting observations. It has been decades since I saw the show, and all I can remember is that it was very funny. Is it on in syndication anywhere? The last time I remember seeing it in syndication was in the early 70s.
Sean Snow 01-17-2002, 10:38 PM Tiger32, TV Land has aired around 16 episodes of "F-Troop", possibly more since I'm not sure if it was ever a regular show. There were talks about adding it in October 2001, but these plans were scratched.
Tiger32 01-17-2002, 11:25 PM Thanks for the information. And Yes it was a regular show back in the late 60s, I was a kid back then, but I do remember watching it on one of the major networks, I think it was CBS who carried it, but I am not for sure.
treky 03-28-2002, 01:34 AM no, it was on ABC
oldiesfan 06-30-2002, 01:20 AM Originally posted by treky
no, it was on ABC
Fall 1965--Tuesday at 9/8 Central.
Fall 1966--Thursday at 8/7 Central.
fore284 08-24-2002, 09:06 PM It was on ABC and it was always on their. They are all fictional characters their was never a real men call Capt. Parmenter or Custer. You must get back to real life it's just a comedy, tv show.
BigBroDee3x 12-01-2002, 08:08 AM Originally posted by fore284
It was on ABC and it was always on their. They are all fictional characters their was never a real men call Capt. Parmenter or Custer. You must get back to real life it's just a comedy, tv show. You have it half right. Parmenter was a fictional character. But George Armstrong Custer was an actual historical figure.
fore284 12-01-2002, 10:27 AM I didn't know that thanks for cleaning that up with me.
Forrest Tucker 02-02-2003, 04:23 AM One historical inaccuracy (and I agree, they were most likely on purpose, knowing these writers who came up with "Hekawi" among other things); in "Don't Look Now, One of Our Cannon Missing" (episode # 2), Agarn portrays General Grant and notes that he had lunch with the President and Mrs. Lincoln at the White House yesterday.
That's a pretty neat trick....considering that Lincoln was assassinated 5 days after the Civil War ended and Parmenter was assigned to Fort Courage!
fore284 02-02-2003, 01:11 PM That is werid I never know that happened before.
brooky 05-11-2003, 07:15 PM Originally posted by fore284
It was on ABC and it was always on their. They are all fictional characters their was never a real men call Capt. Parmenter or Custer. You must get back to real life it's just a comedy, tv show.
Better go back to your history books. You never heard of Custer's Last Stand? General Custer's troops were wiped out at the Little Big Horn by an indian nation raid. Our intelligence wasn't too good and we didn't know their had been a massive gathering of the Sioux nations.
fore284 05-12-2003, 04:00 PM I didn't know the names I remember the raid that when bad.
treky 05-25-2003, 03:18 AM Originally posted by fore284
I didn't know the names I remember the raid that when bad. how do you remember something that happened in 1876????
EmpressDR 04-04-2004, 07:39 PM F-Troop on ABC??
I thought it was on CBS--because it had the same announcer as had Lost in Space--Dick Tufeld.
But in checking his filmography, I see that he announced shows on ABC and NBC.
Of course, that show that starred Tim Conway, which was a snin-off, and for awhile, had the record for the TV show with most rapid cancelation, "Rango" was on ABC--it's theme song was sung by Frankie Lane. Anyone know the lyrics?
Jay Dub 04-08-2004, 10:24 AM Historical inaccuracies can be pointed out in almost every sitcom that has reference to a certain era. (I dream of Jeannie has several)
Back to F-Troop; when discussing court martial proceedings for Corp. Agarn (The day thay shot Agarn) a certain Major asked Capt. Parmenter which edition of the Army Manual Did he possess? Partemter replied "1866." The Major grinned and replied, "67."
sherb 10-31-2004, 11:38 AM This isn't an historical inaccuracy as such, more an "outrageous" liberty taken by the writers.
I am referring to the episode where (I think) "Mr Tambourine Man" was sung. Of course, this was occurring 100 years or so before the song was actually written!!
Family Fan 03-08-2005, 05:32 PM Historical inaccuracies On F-Troop? ROFL!!!!!!!! Stop, I can't take it. :happyface :lol: :crazy:
treky 03-11-2005, 03:16 PM EVERY show and movie that's set in a certain era has several historical innacuries. MASH had tons of them.
I've even discovered several on "Bonnanza".
Tweety 03-31-2005, 09:47 PM This isn't an historical inaccuracy as such, more an "outrageous" liberty taken by the writers.
I am referring to the episode where (I think) "Mr Tambourine Man" was sung. Of course, this was occurring 100 years or so before the song was actually written!!
Mr. Tambourine Man COULD have been written in the 1860s... it's just that it took 100 years before anyone could actually sound good singing it, as the Byrds did.
:lol:
dontwc 04-12-2005, 09:02 PM I think my favorite episode was the one where Agarn got court martialed for selling Viagra to the Indians...
:lol: :lol: :lol:
sherb 09-15-2005, 08:07 AM Mr. Tambourine Man COULD have been written in the 1860s... it's just that it took 100 years before anyone could actually sound good singing it, as the Byrds did.
:lol:
True. :)
Didn't the Bedbugs also have electric guitars as well? :D (It has been so long since I saw that episode I can't remember).
TV Knowledge Fan 04-24-2006, 01:45 PM ...WAS "F TROOP"'s announcer...but only on the network version. He was the one who said, before the opening credits, "The Quaker Oats Company presents..", and "F TROOP...brought to you by....Quaker Oats {etc.}...." and, "F TROOP...was brought to you by.....the growing family of products of The Quaker Oats Company". They were the primary sponsor the entire two seasons the show was on ABC.
:)
As for "historical inaccuracy", it didn't really matter. If a "rock group" supposedly performing after the Civil War got a laugh, why not? If Wrangler Jane sang a song that wouldn't be written for almost a hundred years, WHY NOT?? Especially if it was published by a Warner Bros. music subsidiary.....
Nobody ever faulted "THE WILD WILD WEST" for their "futuristic" devices in the 1870's!
TV Knowledge Fan 06-05-2006, 02:14 PM ....in "The Singing Mountie", Sergeant Ramsden [Paul Lynde] "mushes" his way into Fort Courage 'singing' "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp". The fact that this particular song was taken from Victor Herbert's operetta "Naughty Marietta", which, given the "1866" time frame the series was supposed to take place,
wouldn't be written for at least another 40 to 50 years!
Obviously, "Ramsden" is supposed to be a parody of every "singing Mountie" Nelson Eddy ever appeared as in the movies- particularly the one who sang "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp" in the 1935 movie version of "Naughty Marietta".
And, of course, "F TROOP" was SUPPOSED to be pure farce, and not to be taken too literally or seriously.....
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Mikado 06-05-2006, 02:25 PM ....in "The Singing Mountie", Sergeant Ramsden [Paul Lynde] "mushes" his way into Fort Courage 'singing' "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp". The fact that this particular song was taken from Victor Herbert's operetta "Naughty Marietta", which, given the "1866" time frame the series was supposed to take place,
wouldn't be written for at least another 40 to 50 years!
Obviously, "Ramsden" is supposed to be a parody of every "singing Mountie" Nelson Eddy ever appeared as in the movies- particularly the one who sang "Tramp, Tramp, Tramp" in the 1935 movie version of "Naughty Marietta".
And, of course, "F TROOP" was SUPPOSED to be pure farce, and not to be taken too literally or seriously.....
:tv:
Well, actually, just having a singing mountie appear in 1866 is a historical innacuracy in itself; the North West Mounted Police ( now known as RCMP ) were created by John A MacDonald ( prime minister ) in 1873, and only went into active service in 1874, thus they didnt EXIST in 1866 :crazy:
The Mounties left in the spring of 1874 on a long trek to protect the natives from the American whisky traders at Fort Whoop-up in Canadian territory...by the time they got there, later that summer, the Fort was empty as the whisky traders had already left without a shot fired :lol:
TV Knowledge Fan 06-05-2006, 05:26 PM Yes, 'mikado', you're absolutely right! How COULD an "RCMP" officer visit Fort Courage after the Civil War when THEY didn't even exist yet???
So let's not hear any more protests about "historical inaccuracy". That would be as ridiculous as, say, Wild Eagle listening to his new "stereophonic" moose call {"Only trouble is, only HALF a moose show up!" CRAZY CAT: "Guess which side?" "You and your 'helpful' relatives!!!!"}.
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