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Brian Damage
06-04-2009, 10:36 AM
Actor David Carradine, star of the 1970s TV series “Kung Fu” who also had a wide-ranging career in the movies, has been found dead in the Thai capital, Bangkok. A news report said he was found hanged in his hotel room and was believed to have committed suicide.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy, Michael Turner, confirmed the death of the 72-year-old actor. He said the embassy was informed by Thai authorities that Carradine died either late Wednesday or early Thursday, but he could not provide further details out of consideration for his family.

The Web site of the Thai newspaper The Nation cited unidentified police sources as saying Carradine was found Thursday hanged in his luxury hotel room.

It said Carradine was in Bangkok to shoot a movie and had been staying at the hotel since Tuesday.

The newspaper said Carradine could not be contacted after he failed to appear for a meal with the rest of the film crew on Wednesday, and that his body was found by a hotel maid at 10 a.m. Thursday morning. The name of the movie was not immediately available.

It said a preliminary police investigation found that he had hanged himself with a cord used with the room’s curtains. It cited police as saying he had been dead at least 12 hours and there was no sign that he had been assaulted.

A police officer at Bangkok’s Lumpini precinct station would not confirm the identity of the dead man to The Associated Press, but said the luxury Swissotel Nai Lert Park hotel had reported that a male guest killed himself there.

Carradine was a leading member of a venerable Hollywood acting family that included his father, character actor John Carradine, and brother Keith.

In all, he appeared in more than 100 feature films with such directors as Martin Scorsese, Ingmar Bergman and Hal Ashby.

But he was best known for his role as Kwai Chang Caine, a Shaolin priest traveling the 1800s American frontier West in the TV series “Kung Fu,” which aired in 1972-75.

He reprised the role in a mid-1980s TV movie and played Caine’s grandson in the 1990s syndicated series “Kung Fu: The Legend Continues.”

He returned to the top in recent years as the title character in Quentin Tarantino’s two-part saga “Kill Bill.”

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31103217/

Brian Damage
06-04-2009, 10:39 AM
:rip:

80sTrivia
06-04-2009, 10:42 AM
Shocking and sad that he would commit suicide at the age of seventy-two... :(

comedyfreak
06-04-2009, 11:08 AM
RIP David. I wonder why he would committ suicide.

Zoneboy
06-04-2009, 11:20 AM
Not a good day for Twilight Zone stars, Jackie Cooper lost his wife, Barbara of 55 years and now John Carradine's son has died. May they both :rip:

robyrob
06-04-2009, 11:21 AM
very shocking

RIP

catlover79
06-04-2009, 11:23 AM
How sad...:( My heart and prayers go out to his family. :rip:

JamesG
06-04-2009, 11:36 AM
Good-bye Bill :(

Jessica
06-04-2009, 11:38 AM
Aww...

JamesG
06-04-2009, 02:02 PM
I wanted to say that there has been a lot of rumors going around as to what caused Carradine's death.

A lot of people have been speculating that this was the result of a sexual experiment gone wrong. People say he was experimenting with auto-erotic asphyxiation, the act of strangling yourself while you masturbate. The turn on is the point of reaching death.

Though at this point this is totally rumor and unconfirmed. They are still determining the cause of death.

Jessica
06-04-2009, 03:11 PM
Okay.

coffield3
06-04-2009, 06:17 PM
Gosh! This is very shocking!! I always liked him as an Actor. R.I.P.

Ohio8
06-04-2009, 06:25 PM
Back in 1994, David did a TV commercial for Lipton iced tea that parodied both "Kung Fu" and The Three Stooges. It was a good ad. RIP, David. :(

catlover79
06-04-2009, 06:31 PM
I loved whenever he spoofed Caine. I remember seeing once him karate chop a camera after saying, "You have learned much, you stupid grasshoppers." :lol:

Zoneboy
06-04-2009, 08:01 PM
I wanted to say that there has been a lot of rumors going around as to what caused Carradine's death.

A lot of people have been speculating that this was the result of a sexual experiment gone wrong. People say he was experimenting with auto-erotic asphyxiation, the act of strangling yourself while you masturbate. The turn on is the point of reaching death.

Though at this point this is totally rumor and unconfirmed. They are still determining the cause of death.

Could you please post a link to any reputable source that mentions this? I've read several reports and while I agree that there are many rumours regarding his passing, Not a single one mentions anything about him possibly dying due to some sexual experiment. One report stated that he was nude when found, Another said he was wearing a robe and his agent stated he died from natural causes.

TJL
06-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Could you please post a link to any reputable source that mentions this? I've read several reports and while I agree that there are many rumours regarding his passing, Not a single one mentions anything about him possibly dying due to some sexual experiment. One report stated that he was nude when found, Another said he was wearing a robe and his agent stated he died from natural causes.

This story is running on IMDB, although they don't have any specific sources mentioned:

David Carradine died during a sex game that went wrong, according to sources in Bangkok, Thailand, where he was found dead on Thursday.

Carradine's body was discovered in a hotel suite and local reports suggested he committed suicide.

He was discovered by a maid, naked and hanged, but the suggestions his death had a sexual twist were strongly disputed by the star's close friend, attorney Vicki Roberts, and his manager Chuck Binder, who insisted he died of natural causes.

But a statement from Carradine's representative now indicates the actor died during a sex act.

The spokesperson tells TMZ.com, "We can confirm 100 per cent that he never would have committed suicide. It was an accidental death. Everybody is in shock."

Rumours Carradine died attempting auto-erotic asphyxiation - where victims achieve heightened sexual pleasure by restricting their air supply - are backed up by a quote a Bangkok police officer gave to British newspaper The Sun.

The cop tells reporters, "A rope was attached to his neck and also to his penis".

Rocker Michael Hutchence was rumoured to have died attempting the same sex act in a Sydney, Australia hotel room back in 1997 - although his death was officially declared a suicide.

Carradine was in Thailand to shoot new movie Stretch. He was 72.

Zoneboy
06-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Thanks, Tom. I figured IMDb or Wikipedia would be the one reporting this rumour and they are not my idea of reputable sources.

Brian Damage
06-04-2009, 09:39 PM
After a maid found David Carradine's body in a closet in his Bangkok hotel room, police called it a suspected suicide. But the actor's manager refuses to believe it.

"I can tell you 100 percent that he would have never committed suicide," Tiffany Smith, who along with Chuck Binder managed the Kill Bill star, tells PEOPLE. "He was too full of life."

Carradine, 72, was in Thailand filming the movie Stretch when his nude body was discovered Thursday morning. The body was in a sitting position, with a yellow rope wrapped around the neck and attached to a closet bar, said police Col. Somprasong Yentuam, chief of the Lumpini area station. "We believe that Mr. David committed suicide but it is suspicious," said Yentuam.

Although Carradine had spoken openly of his past battles with drugs and alcohol and thoughts of suicide, his manager says the actor had been in good spirits, eager to work on the current film and three more lined up when he returned to the United States.

"We are not saying it's an accidental death because we don't know," says Smith. "Right now we are just letting everyone know that it's under investigation and we'll see ... I just know he didn't do this to himself."

The actor's family was stunned by the news. In a statement, Carradine's niece, actress Martha Plimpton, expressed the family's sense of loss. "My Uncle David was a brilliantly talented, fiercely intelligent and generous man," Plimpton said.

"He was the nexus of our family in so many ways, and drew us together over the years and kept us connected. I adored him as a child, and as an adult I admired and respected him. We will all miss him terribly."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20283427,00.html

browneyes106
06-04-2009, 09:43 PM
RIP David Carradine

Amanda Woodward
06-05-2009, 08:48 AM
Can't believe the crap people write about him now , it's like ZERO respect for someone who is dead :(

TripperFan
06-05-2009, 09:56 AM
Not just the rags reporting that it was a sex game now. I don't think he did suicide. This "game" is actually quite common and has been the focus of episodes on SVU several times.

His friends and family all said he had been in good spirits. What an embarrassing way to go though.



Actor David Carradine's death may not have been a suicide after all. The star of the movie series "Kill Bill" and the iconic "Kung Fu" was found dead in his hotel room in Bangkok, Thailand on Thursday, discovered by authorities in a gruesome scenario.

He had a rope tied around his neck and his genitals, leaving authorities to originally declare he'd taken his own life. But those who know the actor didn't believe it and insisted there was another explanation.

And it turns out, they may be right.

Investigators now think the 72-year-old may have been involved in some kind of sexual activity involving strangulation, and that he could have accidentally killed himself while acting out the procedure. The results of an already completed autopsy are expected to sort out the details of whether he took his own life or died from heart failure due to an orgasm.

So far the results haven't been released.

Authorities found a naked Carradine hanging in the closet of his luxury hotel room by a maid who entered after he failed to answer her knock at his door. At first they would only say he'd committed suicide under usual circumstances. But slowly new theories began to emerge about what may have been the real cause of the actor's sudden death.

He'd been in Thailand to begin work on a new film called "Stretch" and had several other projects lined up once that shoot was completed. Friends and co-workers recalled he was in good spirits before leaving the U.S. last week and instantly doubted the suicide claim.

coffield3
06-05-2009, 03:03 PM
Good grief! How embarrassing for his family and friends.

catlover79
06-05-2009, 03:56 PM
To be honest, if what they're saying is true, I wouldn't be surprised a bit. After all, David Carradine DID admit once that he'd had over 500 acid trips in his lifetime. :eek:

JamesG
06-05-2009, 07:33 PM
To be honest, if what they're saying is true, I wouldn't be surprised a bit. After all, David Carradine DID admit once that he'd had over 500 acid trips in his lifetime. :eek:

I wouldn't really associate drug abuse with deviant sexual behavior. These kind of activities are not at all uncommon and drugs have little if nothing to do with it.

Some take it to higher levels than others but it's not really uncommon.

catlover79
06-05-2009, 07:37 PM
I wouldn't really associate drug abuse with deviant sexual behavior. These kind of activities are not at all uncommon and drugs have little if nothing to do with it.

Some take it to higher levels than others but it's not really uncommon.
I guess so.

JamesG
06-05-2009, 07:42 PM
Good grief! How embarrassing for his family and friends.

As far as I am aware, at this point, this is still unsolved. If these rumors are not true then the family has every right to be FURIOUS.

I've seen more news sources saying this story and saying that it is unconfirmed.

It could be true but I guess some don't want to believe it's a suicide.

Either way, David Carradine's loss is very tragic.

catlover79
06-05-2009, 07:47 PM
As far as I am aware, at this point, this is still unsolved. If these rumors are not true then the family has every right to be FURIOUS.

I've seen more news sources saying this story and saying that it is unconfirmed.

It could be true but I guess some don't want to believe it's a suicide.

Either way, David Carradine's loss is very tragic.
Have you heard anything from the AP? They are usually the most reliable.

JamesG
06-05-2009, 07:51 PM
I guess so.

I don't really want to elaborate much about this but I am quite into the many deviant sexual behaviors of people.

From what I have seen first-hand drugs really don't play a part in it and it is unwise to engage in this without a clear-head.

Everything has a risk-factor but some out there do really far-out things; they like the rush, the risk itself is a turn-on, everyone has different interests.

I would say clearly that this particular act is not very safe at all. Though I can see and sort of understand why one would want to do this.

I really haven't seen drugs out at at all in my travels but they could be there. My guess is the more love one has for risky behavior they might be more prone to drug use.

That is my best guess but I wouldn't connect different kinks to drugs.

Mr. Television
06-05-2009, 07:52 PM
Wow you google his name and you have all sorts of theories. There's a lot of articles saying he could have been murdered. This will probably take awhile to sort everything out.

JamesG
06-05-2009, 07:53 PM
Have you heard anything from the AP? They are usually the most reliable.

I've seen it mentioned on ABC News, Washington Post, E!, New York Post... to name a few. Nothing is concrete but they all mention this sexual act theory.

catlover79
06-05-2009, 08:05 PM
I've seen it mentioned on ABC News, Washington Post, E!, New York Post... to name a few. Nothing is concrete but they all mention this sexual act theory.
Me, too. What a mess. I feel so bad for his family. :(

JamesG
06-05-2009, 08:08 PM
Wow you google his name and you have all sorts of theories. There's a lot of articles saying he could have been murdered. This will probably take awhile to sort everything out.

Yeah the press is having a field day with this.

catlover79
06-05-2009, 08:10 PM
Yeah the press is having a field day with this.
I can hear Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry" ringing through my head right now...ohno:

Liza
06-06-2009, 02:36 AM
Now the rumor is that foul play is suspected. Supposedly he was found with his hands tied behind his back. How could anyone tie their own hands behind their back?

Liza
06-06-2009, 02:41 AM
He was discovered by a maid, naked and hanged, but the suggestions his death had a sexual twist were strongly disputed by the star's close friend, attorney Vicki Roberts, and his manager Chuck Binder, who insisted he died of natural causes.

But a statement from Carradine's representative now indicates the actor died during a sex act.

Now I know that's not true. Binder was interviewed last night and had spoken to Carradine's wife. Right now, they don't know what caused it. Binder certainly didn't say it was natural causes - he actually gave the impression that foul play was suspected. Nothing's been confirmed as yet by any of his representatives.

isiahthomas
06-06-2009, 12:08 PM
I read a article about his death yesterday. That's sad that he killed himself. The article didn't say why he killed himself and i would like to know why. I don't judge suicidal people because life is hard when your financial situation isn't good. We may think just because he was a actor that he had a lot of money but we don't really know what his financial situation was. Having no money does make people wanna kill themselves and i can relate to that because i've been unemployed before and i wanted to die because i got tired of filling out job applications and nobody was calling me for a job. I got tired of being broke and not having a car and i wanted to take my life. Thank god my father let me move back in with him and my mom because if he hadn't, i wouldn't be talking to ya'll right now. I'm thankful that i have 2 jobs right now. I was talking to a female friend yesterday and she was telling me she wants to kill herself because she's unemployed and she hasn't been eating that much lately because there isn't that much food in the house where she lives with her mom. I told her i could relate to her wanting to die because i've been in her situation before.


Getting back to David Carradine, who knows why he killed himself but at least now he'll be in a better place because this is a ugly hateful world. I don't look at death like a bad thing like most people do because when you die, at least you'll have peace because this world is so cruel. Money doesn't make everybody happy and the public tends to think that just because celebrities got a lot of money that they're happy but David could've been depressed about something and maybe that's why he took his life.

TripperFan
06-06-2009, 12:16 PM
Now I know that's not true. Binder was interviewed last night and had spoken to Carradine's wife. Right now, they don't know what caused it. Binder certainly didn't say it was natural causes - he actually gave the impression that foul play was suspected. Nothing's been confirmed as yet by any of his representatives.

And as of this morning, Carradine's family want the FBI to investigate.

I wouldn't say necessarily foulplay. If you read up on this kinky sex thing, it can be done by yourself or with a partner (as in bondage). That would explain IF his hands were tied behind his back. If that's the case, she might have run out scared when he accidentally died. His wife knew nothing of his daliances so she wants it investigated.

There was no suicide note - he had just bought a car and was totally upbeat. This is not a suicidal man.

It was probably accidental. It doesn't take much to cutoff oxygen to the brain - especially when you're experiencing an orgasm along with it.

From what I've seen so far, it's just a wierd, kinky tragic accident that's an embarrassing way to die. Wasn't a very classy front page either in Thailand showing him in a yellow karate outfit with the words "DEAD END".

JamesG
06-06-2009, 12:34 PM
Now the rumor is that foul play is suspected. Supposedly he was found with his hands tied behind his back. How could anyone tie their own hands behind their back?

Not as hard as one might think.

I've seen people who engage in self-bondage and they can tie their own hands behind their back. Usually you practice doing it to yourself in the front and you just keep practicing until you can do it behind your back.

If you have the right hand and muscle coordination you can do it.

JamesG
06-06-2009, 12:50 PM
And as of this morning, Carradine's family want the FBI to investigate.

I wouldn't say necessarily foulplay. If you read up on this kinky sex thing, it can be done by yourself or with a partner (as in bondage). That would explain IF his hands were tied behind his back. If that's the case, she might have run out scared when he accidentally died. His wife knew nothing of his daliances so she wants it investigated.

There was no suicide note - he had just bought a car and was totally upbeat. This is not a suicidal man.

It was probably accidental. It doesn't take much to cutoff oxygen to the brain - especially when you're experiencing an orgasm along with it.

From what I've seen so far, it's just a wierd, kinky tragic accident that's an embarrassing way to die. Wasn't a very classy front page either in Thailand showing him in a yellow karate outfit with the words "DEAD END".

You're right this is an embarrassing way to go, if it is indeed true.

I've seen it in the papers sometimes when a couple engages in kinky sex and something goes wrong that the partner sometimes panics and runs away. Honestly, when you're in that situation sometimes that is common.

Some people are afraid about being "found out" and don't want to be in the papers, some are afraid they'll get a murder charge and don't want to explain to the authorities on why there is someone tied up on their bed... People panic and they flee. Especially when there is a celebrity involved in adds to the chaos.

I'm all for consensual kinky activites but I want the knowing that my partner will try their best to save me should something go wrong and call 911 and not split to leave me to die.

Also, something else not a lot of people consider is sometimes the one who is on Top could have a medical emergency and you can't help much when you're tied down right? That's why their should always be some kind of "escape" or easy manevour for you to get out of.

There are risks and people who engage in this must be aware of what could happen. I would try my damnest to help my partner should something go wrong and I would expect they do the same for me.

TripperFan
06-06-2009, 01:31 PM
You're right this is an embarrassing way to go, if it is indeed true.

I've seen it in the papers sometimes when a couple engages in kinky sex and something goes wrong that the partner sometimes panics and runs away. Honestly, when you're in that situation sometimes that is common.

Some people are afraid about being "found out" and don't want to be in the papers, some are afraid they'll get a murder charge and don't want to explain to the authorities on why there is someone tied up on their bed... People panic and they flee. Especially when there is a celebrity involved in adds to the chaos.

I'm all for consensual kinky activites but I want the knowing that my partner will try their best to save me should something go wrong and call 911 and not split to leave me to die.

Also, something else not a lot of people consider is sometimes the one who is on Top could have a medical emergency and you can't help much when you're tied down right? That's why their should always be some kind of "escape" or easy manevour for you to get out of.

There are risks and people who engage in this must be aware of what could happen. I would try my damnest to help my partner should something go wrong and I would expect they do the same for me.

Exactly. This isn't something I'd be into myself, but if I were, number 1, pick a partner you can TOTALLY trust (to me, this would be part of the heightened attraction to this stuff anyway). Have a knife or damn good scissors ready to cut ropes/cords, whatever!!! Also, as funny as this sounds, know you're CPR!! You cut your buddy down, give CPR and hope to be responsible. But I can see someone panicking for sure - especially when it's a celeb involved.

I hate to say this, but stay tuned for an upcoming ep of Family Guy.....

JamesG
06-06-2009, 06:11 PM
Exactly. This isn't something I'd be into myself, but if I were, number 1, pick a partner you can TOTALLY trust (to me, this would be part of the heightened attraction to this stuff anyway). Have a knife or damn good scissors ready to cut ropes/cords, whatever!!! Also, as funny as this sounds, know you're CPR!! You cut your buddy down, give CPR and hope to be responsible. But I can see someone panicking for sure - especially when it's a celeb involved.

I hate to say this, but stay tuned for an upcoming ep of Family Guy.....

It does sound funny but there's nothing funny about it. Trust and safety are key factors.

Some people are into it and some aren't. Everyone has their own interests and as long as everything's done under consent and nobody's rights are violated then there's nothing wrong.

catlover79
06-07-2009, 12:17 AM
It is indeed an embarrassing and tragic way to go - because it seems like if it's true that will be what he will be remembered most for. Most of all I feel bad for his wife and family. :(

Jonathan
06-07-2009, 01:10 PM
It is indeed an embarrassing and tragic way to go - because it seems like if it's true that will be what he will be remembered most for. Most of all I feel bad for his wife and family. :(

I agree Monika. It's so tragic and bizarre. RIP, Mr. Carradine. :rip:

TripperFan
06-07-2009, 01:39 PM
It does sound funny but there's nothing funny about it. Trust and safety are key factors.

Some people are into it and some aren't. Everyone has their own interests and as long as everything's done under consent and nobody's rights are violated then there's nothing wrong.


For sure - I totally agree - whatever floats your boat as long as nobody gets hurt and you both agree.

But as Monika said, with the press these days, they'll make sure this is what he's remembered for rather than his great work. Like they did with Sonny Bono and John Denver and their deaths didn't involve sex at all.

Not meaning to be flip here at all, but the thought hit me that if he did die of heart failure or something, then hey, what a way to go right?

JamesG
06-07-2009, 03:37 PM
For sure - I totally agree - whatever floats your boat as long as nobody gets hurt and you both agree.

But as Monika said, with the press these days, they'll make sure this is what he's remembered for rather than his great work. Like they did with Sonny Bono and John Denver and their deaths didn't involve sex at all.

Not meaning to be flip here at all, but the thought hit me that if he did die of heart failure or something, then hey, what a way to go right?

Well it's unfortunate but "Sex sells!". People always love reading about a good scandal. Even if the rumors turn out to be false people will still remember about this "episode".

If Carradine just had a heart attack in his hotel room it wouldn't be as great of an interest as Carradine having a heart attack after suffocating himself while masturbating. The more juicy story gets the most publication; whether or not if it has any credibility.

JamesG
06-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Carradine's Family To Sue Over Leaked Pictures
7 June 2009 7:05 AM, PDT

Members of David Carradine's family have threatened legal action after a Thai newspaper allegedly published crime scene photographs of the room where the actor died.

The Kill Bill star's naked body was discovered hanging in a Bangkok, Thailand hotel suite on Thursday. Local reports suggested he committed suicide but a statement from Carradine's representative indicates the actor may have died when a solo sex act went wrong.

But Carradine's relatives are outraged after local tabloid Thai Rath published a grainy picture, purporting to show the actor's dead body in the hotel where he passed away. Officials at the paper did not indicate the source of the image, but Thai police claim it is a picture of Carradine's body taken by a forensic team.

Carradine's brother Keith has issued a statement condemning the paper's actions, calling the publication of the picture "profoundly disturbing".

The statement reads, "The family wants it understood that, per attorney Mark Geragos, any persons, publications or media outlets will be fully prosecuted for invasion of privacy and causing severe emotional distress if the photos are published."

The news comes after the family contacted America's Federal Bureau of Investigation, urging officials to help Thai police investigate the star's tragic death, insisting it they do not believe Carradine committed suicide.

Geragos told U.S. talk show host Larry King, "Because the death took place on a foreign soil, FBI traditionally cannot just jump right in. So the family met with the FBI , with the idea of (getting) them to initiate some kind of an investigation there. The family and Keith specifically doesn't for a minute think that he was suicidal."

Carradine's body has been flown back to the United States and is expected to undergo a second autopsy in a bid to confirm the cause of death.

-IMDB News

catlover79
06-07-2009, 03:42 PM
Here's another example - even though this case also had nothing to do with sex, people still remember the "ham sandwich". Singer Cass Elliot (formerly of the Mamas and Papas), who was a rather large woman, died of a heart attack at age 32. Somehow the myth was circulated that she choked on a ham sandwich. Nearly 35 years later, you can't think of Mama Cass without also thinking of the words "ham sandwich". It's a shame, too, because she was a wonderful singer and entertainer. :(

Zebra 3
06-11-2009, 07:17 PM
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JamesG
06-11-2009, 07:29 PM
AP Exclusive: No Carradine suicide, expert says
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The forensics expert hired by David Carradine's family has concluded that the "Kung Fu" actor did not commit suicide, but said that more information was needed from Thai investigators before the cause of death could be determined.

Carradine's brothers, Keith and Robert Carradine, each read part of a prepared statement to reporters from The Associated Press at a Los Angeles hotel Thursday morning. In their first appearance since their older brother was found hanging in a Bangkok hotel room closet last week, they thanked supporters and asked for privacy.

"This is a devastating loss for our family and we greatly appreciate the compassion pouring in from all over the world," Keith Carradine said.

They also released a statement by Dr. Michael Baden of New York that indicated a second autopsy determined Carradine didn't kill himself.

"However, to reach a final determination as to the cause and the manner of death we must wait for further information from Thailand as to the scene findings and the completion of the crime laboratory and toxicology studies that are still being performed," Baden's statement said.



Reached by phone after the morning briefing, Baden said he expects to receive more information from Thai authorities in a week or two and stressed that the information at hand was incomplete. Baden didn't elaborate on how suicide was ruled out

"The autopsy is only part of the analysis," he said.

In the meantime, Robert Carradine asked the public and press for patience and time to allow the family to grieve.

"Until we have all of the pending results of the investigation we respectfully ask ... that we be allowed to lay our beloved brother, husband, father, grandfather and great-grandfather to rest in peace and with dignity," Robert Carradine said.



Rampant speculation about the actor's death has swirled since a chambermaid at the luxury Swissotel Nai Lert Park Hotel in Bangkok discovered his body hanging in the closet of his room June 4. A Thai newspaper published a graphic photo of the death scene that police have said appears to be a leaked forensics image.

Thai police initially said they suspected Carradine's death was a suicide, but later conceded it could have been accidental. Their description — that the actor's body was found nude, with ropes around his neck, wrist and genitals — fueled speculation that he was killed while engaging in a dangerous sex practice called auto-erotic asphyxiation.

Thai authorities said on June 5 that it would take about three weeks for the results of their autopsy to be released.

Medical examiners in the United States and Canada generally classify auto-erotic asphyxiation deaths as accidental.



Keith Carradine last week asked the FBI to take a role, and Thai authorities later said they would allow FBI agents to observe their investigation, but not take an active role. FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said earlier this week that the agency would not make any more comments about its role in the Carradine investigation, but that agents stationed in Thailand have a good relationship with local authorities.

Agents typically only get involved in the deaths of U.S. citizens abroad when foul play is involved, she said.

Others who knew the 72-year-old actor have said they suspect foul play was involved. Keith and Robert Carradine on Thursday urged everyone to wait until the investigation has concluded.

"Once the investigation is fully completed and definitive conclusions have been reached, we will address the findings with the public," Robert Carradine said.



Both Keith and Robert Carradine shared the screen with their brother, a prolific TV and film actor. David Carradine rose to prominence for his role on the "Kung Fu" series in the 1970s and experienced a resurgence in popularity after his role in Quentin Tarantino's "Kill Bill" movies earlier this decade.

The family's statement did not indicate the location of his body, or offer any information about funeral arrangements. They did not take questions Thursday after reading the statements.

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