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Pavan
05-14-2009, 11:41 AM
We have posted our thoughts, please take a look:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2009/05/sitcomsonlinecom-2009-10-upfront_14.html

The CW will have their upfront next Thursday (May 21). So check back with us

Scoobiedoo30
05-14-2009, 12:25 PM
this is what I am thinking

Monday
at 7:00 pm CT Gossip Girl
at 8:00 pm CT Vimpire Diaries

on Tuesday
at 7:00 pm CT 90210
at 8:00 pm CT Melrose Place


on Wednesday
at 7:00 pm CT America's Next Top Model
at 8:00 pm CT The Beautiful Life

on Thursday
at 7:00 pm CT Smallville
at 8:00 pm CT Supernatural


on Friday
at 7:00 pm CT The Game
at 8:00 pm One Tree Hill

TMC
05-14-2009, 12:56 PM
Has Dawn Ostroff been fired (http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/Fire_Dawn_Ostroff/) yet!? :mad:

Brent88
05-14-2009, 01:04 PM
The CW needs help.

That about sums it up... :lol: Dawn sucks and I have no idea how she still has a job.

mgsports
05-14-2009, 01:38 PM
Needs Comedies Block on Friday's TGIF.

JulieSomoski
05-14-2009, 04:45 PM
This schedule actually sounds great - I wouldn't change a thing. I like Fridays, with One Tree Hill and Priviledged. That deserves a shot.

But really, does anyone care anymore? The only hit they have left is Top Model. I wouldn't be surprised to see The CW take after NBC and start airing Top Model 2 hours on Wednesdays :lol:

Barrybgb
05-14-2009, 05:16 PM
You hit the nail on the head about the CW. If it weren't for Thursdays, it would mostly be the same thing night after night. The WB had variety. A little bit of something for everyone. CW is following in UPN's footsteps and becoming a one way, dead end street. Not surprising, since the lady running the CW ran UPN. *SIGH* They are not going to raise ratings when they keep making the same kinds of shows for one kind of audience. When they get something different, there won't be much compatibility if they don't have other kinds of stuff like it. Smallville and Supernatural are the top scripted shows for the season. Not Gossip Girl. Not 90210. Not One Tree Hill. They should of kept Reaper and paired it with Vampire Diaries.

Monday -
Gossip Girl
One Tree Hill(I don't see them breaking this up if "Lily" won't be on)

Tuesday -
90210
Melrose Place

Wednesday -
America's Next Top Model
Vampire Diaries

Thursday -
Smallville
Supernatural

Friday -
Privileged
The Game

Reaper and Vampire Diaries would of been a good pair. VD should be paired with something that has certain horror-ish/fantasy themes, but there isn't anything for it to be with. See?. Right back to my point. The CW needs more variety. How much longer can this Ostroff woman keep her job?.

Mr. Television
05-14-2009, 05:24 PM
You hit the nail on the head about the CW. If it weren't for Thursdays, it would mostly be the same thing night after night. The WB had variety. A little bit of something for everyone. CW is following in UPN's footsteps and becoming a one way, dead end street. Not surprising, since the lady running the CW ran UPN. *SIGH* They are not going to raise ratings when they keep making the same kinds of shows for one kind of audience. When they get something different, there won't be much compatibility if they don't have other kinds of stuff like it. Smallville and Supernatural are the top scripted shows for the season. Not Gossip Girl. Not 90210. Not One Tree Hill. They should of kept Reaper and paired it with Vampire Diaries.

Monday -
Gossip Girl
One Tree Hill(I don't see them breaking this up if "Lily" won't be on)

Tuesday -
90210
Melrose Place

Wednesday -
America's Next Top Model
Vampire Diaries

Thursday -
Smallville
Supernatural

Friday -
Privileged
The Game

Reaper and Vampire Diaries would of been a good pair. VD should be paired with something that has certain horror-ish/fantasy themes, but there isn't anything for it to be with. See?. Right back to my point. The CW needs more variety. How much longer can this Ostroff woman keep her job?.
It's hard to know what even qualifies as a hit on the CW. Smallville and Supernatural are their best shows and they are probably entering their final seasons. I think once they leave that the CW will just fold. The WB was a great network. Although they appealed to a younger audience, they had shows that anyone could really watch.

JulieSomoski
05-14-2009, 05:35 PM
It's hard to know what even qualifies as a hit on the CW. Smallville and Supernatural are their best shows and they are probably entering their final seasons. I think once they leave that the CW will just fold. The WB was a great network. Although they appealed to a younger audience, they had shows that anyone could really watch.

Why not just fold The CW and return The WB?

The CW was an experiment that failed. It isn't working, and it never will. The WB, meanwhile, had double the ratings The CW had, and was a much stronger and stable network. Why they ever folded it in the first place is beyond me. We need family shows, and not these teen dramas.

Pavan
05-14-2009, 06:39 PM
What difference would it make changing the name to The WB? That essentially all that it would do.

JulieSomoski
05-14-2009, 06:52 PM
What difference would it make changing the name to The WB? That essentially all that it would do.

If they could bring back the familiarity of The WB, viewers would respond.

Mr. Television
05-14-2009, 07:53 PM
If they could bring back the familiarity of The WB, viewers would respond.
They'd have to fire Dawn Ostroff first.

clj2
05-14-2009, 08:10 PM
I'd bet sometime next year we'll see The CW (and ION) fold with NBC in serious troubles.

Is Smallville EVER going to end? It seems like it keeps going and going.

JulieSomoski
05-14-2009, 08:45 PM
They'd have to fire Dawn Ostroff first.

And that :lol:

Scoobiedoo30
05-14-2009, 08:50 PM
Who is Dawn Ostroff

frenchjr25
05-15-2009, 10:15 AM
The CW made a huge mistake when the canceled 7th Heaven and Reba a few years ago. They were their highest rated shows and they have not recovered. They don't seem to know who their audience is and it is greatly affecting thier ability to properly schedule their time.

Instead of trying to figure out what audience they want they need to see what audience they had when they were doing better. They need yo go back after those people.

The problem that networks still have not realized is that young people are not watching TV. They are on the net. It is older people that are watching TV and the networks and advertisers need to start realizing this. It's no longer business as usual. The rating system that started in the late '60s no longer works.

TMC
05-15-2009, 06:04 PM
Who is Dawn Ostroff

Dawn Ostroff is the entertainment president of the CW. She also oversaw UPN during it's final days.

TMC
05-15-2009, 06:09 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6ba95b8a606e6ae9fdeb6c3a41baf531

Both "Melrose" and "Vampire" are on the verge of getting picked up, while "Beautiful Life," "Life Unexpected" and "Privileged" are battling for the last timeslot.

Mr. Television
05-15-2009, 07:40 PM
I'd bet sometime next year we'll see The CW (and ION) fold with NBC in serious troubles.

Is Smallville EVER going to end? It seems like it keeps going and going.
After last night's episode, it should end. What a disappointment.

clj2
05-15-2009, 09:57 PM
After last night's episode, it should end. What a disappointment.

I agree. I don't know why they keep drawing it out - it should have ended 2 seasons ago at least.

Pavan
05-15-2009, 11:06 PM
It is their second highest rated show that's why.

Brent88
05-15-2009, 11:29 PM
Well if The CW doesn't have some drastic improvements this season Smallville won't have to be canceled, the network will be canceled. :lol: I'm serious, it may not see Fall 2010 if all it's new shows fail. All it's "hits" are old and they continue to only focus on a very small segment of the viewing audience, teenage girls. They cannot survive like that and they continue to alienate the rest of their viewers.

Dawn Ostroff should have been fired forever ago and why she hasn't is the biggest mystery of TV today. I still cannot figure out why Top Model has been leading into a lame 90210 repeat for the past 2 months. It's their top rated show(that actually beats some of the shows on the big 4 on Wednesday at 8 in demos), and it's a completely wasted lead-in. Not to mention the dumb repeat on Friday and now the giving away of Sundays(which has been an epic disaster from Day 1).

TMC
05-16-2009, 12:20 AM
Well if The CW doesn't have some drastic improvements this season Smallville won't have to be canceled, the network will be canceled. :lol: I'm serious, it may not see Fall 2010 if all it's new shows fail. All it's "hits" are old and they continue to only focus on a very small segment of the viewing audience, teenage girls. They cannot survive like that and they continue to alienate the rest of their viewers.

Dawn Ostroff should have been fired forever ago and why she hasn't is the biggest mystery of TV today. I still cannot figure out why Top Model has been leading into a lame 90210 repeat for the past 2 months. It's their top rated show(that actually beats some of the shows on the big 4 on Wednesday at 8 in demos), and it's a completely wasted lead-in. Not to mention the dumb repeat on Friday and now the giving away of Sundays(which has been an epic disaster from Day 1).

Dawn Ostroff is essentially, the television equivalent to Matt Millen, when he was overseeing the Detroit Lions!

Pavan
05-16-2009, 01:37 PM
The latest information on upfronts:

http://www.sitcomsonline.com/blog/2009/05/upfront-rumblings-blog-dvd-review.html

clj2
05-18-2009, 10:27 PM
Well if The CW doesn't have some drastic improvements this season Smallville won't have to be canceled, the network will be canceled. :lol: I'm serious, it may not see Fall 2010 if all it's new shows fail. All it's "hits" are old and they continue to only focus on a very small segment of the viewing audience, teenage girls. They cannot survive like that and they continue to alienate the rest of their viewers.

I just now read this post and totally agree. One Tree Hill, Smallville, Supernatural, and even Gossip Girl aren't going to last forever. When those are gone, which seem to be the main shows (well, Top Model too), I think it will definately fold.

This is a dumb question, but is there a set date yet for when The CW Sundays will cease to exist? I guess my affiliate will air movies like Saturday nights. My local CW affiliate has most of the big syndicated shows of the late 80s-2000s so if CW were to fold, I doubt they would be in any jeopardy.

Jude The Obscure
05-19-2009, 09:44 PM
A lot of CW affiliates have picked up the MGM Movie Showcase for Sundays in the fall.

Pavan
05-20-2009, 03:28 PM
Leaked schedule being passed around already:

Mondays
8:00PM Gossip Girl
9:00PM One Tree Hill

Tuesdays
8:00PM 90210
9:00PM Melrose Place

Wednesdays
8:00PM America's Next Top Model
9:00PM The Beautiful Life

Thursdays
8:00PM Vampire Diaries
9:00PM Supernatural

Fridays
8:00PM Smallville
9:00PM Various Encores

Midseason: 1 or 2 new dramas

If I have anything else late tonight, I'll post it. If not, official schedule will be out in the morning.

clj2
05-20-2009, 03:48 PM
Leaked schedule being passed around already:

Mondays
8:00PM Gossip Girl
9:00PM One Tree Hill

Tuesdays
8:00PM 90210
9:00PM Melrose Place

Wednesdays
8:00PM America's Next Top Model
9:00PM The Beautiful Life

Thursdays
8:00PM Vampire Diaries
9:00PM Supernatural

Fridays
8:00PM Smallville
9:00PM Various Encores

Midseason: 1 or 2 new dramas

If I have anything else late tonight, I'll post it. If not, official schedule will be out in the morning.

Hm, Smallville moving to Fridays and being split from Supernatural is interesting. Rest is blah. :crazy:

Brent88
05-20-2009, 03:54 PM
Leaked schedule being passed around already:

Mondays
8:00PM Gossip Girl
9:00PM One Tree Hill

Tuesdays
8:00PM 90210
9:00PM Melrose Place

Wednesdays
8:00PM America's Next Top Model
9:00PM The Beautiful Life

Thursdays
8:00PM Vampire Diaries
9:00PM Supernatural

Fridays
8:00PM Smallville
9:00PM Various Encores

Midseason: 1 or 2 new dramas

If I have anything else late tonight, I'll post it. If not, official schedule will be out in the morning.

What a dumb schedule. Still a repeat even with Sundays gone. I believe this will be the schedule tomorrow.

I think OTH should go to Fridays, VD to Mondays, Smallville stays on Thursdays, and Melrose/90210 flip(90210 is way too weak to be a lead-in).

The CW really needs to just shut down. Why even bother?

Mr. Television
05-20-2009, 03:57 PM
Smallville is going into it's final year so I can understand moving it. If the new shows don't make it though, I think the CW is over.

Brent88
05-20-2009, 04:07 PM
Agreed. This season was a complete failure and they can't have another season like this. 90210 started with such promise and then ended up being a flop, probably due in part to the endless repeats which The CW has got to work on. Gossip Girl also fell significantly for the same reason. It's lights out in 2010 if they don't make MAJOR MAJOR progress next season.

Smallville is going into it's final year so I can understand moving it. If the new shows don't make it though, I think the CW is over.

Mr. Television
05-20-2009, 05:05 PM
Agreed. This season was a complete failure and they can't have another season like this. 90210 started with such promise and then ended up being a flop, probably due in part to the endless repeats which The CW has got to work on. Gossip Girl also fell significantly for the same reason. It's lights out in 2010 if they don't make MAJOR MAJOR progress next season.
They started the season earlier than the other networks. If they're going to do this then they better order more episodes. You can't have repeats airing in January and February while the other networks have original episodes airing. It seemed like 90210 was always in repeats at the beginning of the year and they lost viewers. Soaps do not repeat well either. The original 90210 and MP and even the 1980's soaps like Dallas and KL would have about 30 episodes a season. That way they stayed fresh all year long.